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From YouTube: Pittsburgh City Council Post-Agenda - 4/11/23
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Discussion on Foster Care Unification & Reunification
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A
A
A
C
Well,
thanks
for
having
us
we're
excited
that
city
council
is,
is
really
interested
in
learning
more
about
what
all
of
us
here
do,
as,
as
you
know,
I
run
the
Department
of
Human
Services
and
we're
responsible
for
child
protective
services,
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
services,
including
mental
health
substance
use,
aging,
Housing,
Services
and,
and
we
use
our
child
welfare
funds
for
a
wide
range
of
prevention
and
reunification,
as
as
you
discuss
as
well
as
as
to
make
sure
kids
are
safe.
So
thanks
for
having
us
thank.
A
D
Again,
thank
you
for
having
us.
We
really
appreciate
the
invitation
and
city
council's
interest
in
foster
care
and
reunification,
and
and
what
services
we
need
for
our
children
and
track
certainly
is
one
of
the
larger
providers
of
foster
care
for
Allegheny
County.
But
we
also
do
have
a
mental
health
clinic
with
full-time
clinicians,
part-time
clinicians
and
a
psychiatrists
who
sort
of
fighting
Child
and
Adolescence,
which
is
really
beneficial.
F
Kids
voice
provides
legal
advocacy
and
other
types
of
advocacy
to
youth
who
are
involved
in
the
juvenile
court
process.
We
work
with
approximately
3
000
children
each
year
who
end
up
in
the
dependency
system.
That's
not
all
of
the
children
that
DHS
cyf
work
with,
but
just
those
that
end
up
in
in
the
court
system.
We
also
stay
with
our
clients
after
their
foster
care
and
dependency
case
closes
until
they
turn
25..
F
So
we
help
them
with
that
transition
from
being
involved
and
having
system
supports,
to
having
nothing
and
often
not
having
the
kind
of
Family
Safety
Net
that
other
children
and
families
have
and
I'm
really
pleased
here
to
answer
questions
and
hear
more
about
your
interests.
This
is
I've,
been
in
my
position
for
every
24
years
in
August,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
system,
a
great
decrease
in
the
number
of
children
involved,
which
has
been
a
good
thing.
We
have
room
for
improvement,
but
we
also
maybe
will
have
an
opportunity
today.
F
This
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
city
council
engaged
on
these
issues
in
my
time
and
perhaps
and
I've,
given
some
thought
to
this
and
I
hope
we'll
have
a
chance
to
discuss
it.
I
thought
about
some
ways
is
where
city
council
could
really
impact
on
City
policies
and
City
initiatives,
things
that
could
be
different.
So
maybe
that
could
be
part
of
the
discussion
we
have
today
or
as
a
follow-up
afterwards,
because
that's
not
something.
We've
really
done
before.
F
It's
been
mostly
left
to
the
county,
because
obviously
the
county
funds,
the
entire
child
welfare
system
and
Human
Services
System
and
the
accountability
for
providers
is
there,
but
I
think
there
could
be
ways
that,
particularly
in
the
current
Dynamics,
which
I'm
sure
we'll
talk
about
more
all
of
us
today,
where
we
have
shortages
of
staff
and
changes
in
what
has
happened
where
there
there
could
be
a
good
opportunity
for
collaboration
and
supports
that.
Maybe
we
haven't
seen
before
at
a
time
when
we've
never
needed
it
more.
A
G
Sure
Aubrey
has
five
main
program
areas:
housing,
foster
care,
Behavioral,
Health,
Workforce
Development
and
our
transition
age,
youth
programs
and
I
believe
you
know
we
were
invited
here
today
because
of
our
work
at
the
four
one,
two
years:
Zone,
which
serves
young
people
16
to
23,
who
are
transitioning
out
of
foster
care
or
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
And
so
you
know
we
definitely
work
with
those
young
people
who
have
foster
care
experience
and
support
them
as
they
transition
into
adulthood
and
to
help
them
be
self-sufficient.
H
I
at
allies
for
children
we
serve
as
a
bold
voice
to
improve
policy
practices
and
changes
for
all
children
in
Allegheny
County
and
since
its
Inception
allies
for
children
focused
mostly
on
health
and
education
and
the
new
executive
director.
Jamie
Baxter
brought
me
on
to
really
expand
our
policy
Focus
areas
and
to
include
child
welfare,
and
so
so
I
am
happy
to
be
here.
I'm
happy
to
be
a
part
of
allies
for
children
I'm,
also
in
a
rare
and
fortunate
position
that
I
am
part-time.
H
A
It
off
and
I'm
sure
questions
will
come
up
as
we
go
so
with
me.
I
can
just
tell
you
this
started
when
actually
we
did
our
first
mental
health
post
agenda
in
2014
13
whenever
I
met
Ricky
Moody
a
little
a
little
bit
before
that
we
started
talking
and
we
started
getting
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
that
needed
obviously
needed
help,
and
there
was
no
conversation
here
in
this
hallway
about
mental
health,
and
so
he
and
I
started
just
talking
and
we
had
our
first
mental
health
post
agenda.
A
You
know
10
years,
you
know
15
years
later,
but
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
you,
director,
Dalton
about
some
of
the
changes
and
some
of
the
things
that
you
that
are
done
differently
in
foster
care.
My
concern
is,
when
you
take
a
kid
from
their
home
or
you
don't
take
a
kid
from
their
home
and
they're
being
abused
in
the
home
or
they're
being
abused
in
the
foster
care
home
that
they're
going
into,
and
then
you
move
them
to
another
one
they're
abused
in
that
one.
A
A
You
know
to
Lobby
people
to
do
some
things
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
more
for
our
kids
and
so
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
you
do
differently,
because
we
we
talked
a
little
bit
on.
If
you
recall
out,
there's
also
no
place
for
kids,
who,
aged
out
of
the
system
at
the
time
in
southwest
of
Pittsburgh
I,
had
to
go
to
the
Hill
district
to
get
somebody
to
help
them,
who
was
kids
were
aging
out
of
the
system.
So
we
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
too.
C
Yeah,
so
we
can,
we
can
definitely
address
the
kids,
older,
Youth
and
kids
that
are
not
necessarily
all
aging
out
of
the
system,
but
what
services
we
have
for
them?
We
do
have
a
tremendous
I,
think
array
of
services
for
older
Youth
and
a
lot
of
those
services
are
are
in
home
and
are
particular
to
those
to
those
young
people,
so
they're
not
necessarily
set
up
as
community
centers
but
come
to
the
homes
of
folks,
and
we
do
have
some
Community
capacity
too.
C
C
C
Some
of
those
are
in
kids,
who
are
have
had
experienced
a
home
removal
are
in
care
and
we
investigate
those
those
cases
right,
particularly
any
case
where
there's
a
where
they're
already
they're
in
in
placement,
we
would,
we
would
go
and
take
a
look,
I
think
I.
An
important.
An
important
statistic.
I
think,
is
that
most
of
our
kids,
when
they
have
to
be
removed,
are
with
Ken.
C
So
we
use
great
agencies
like
track
for
and
others
for
foster
care,
but
most
kids
prefer
to
stay
with
family,
and
so
over,
60
percent
of
our
kids
are
with
Ken.
The
substantiated
abuse
is
a
is
about
seven
percent
of
for
for
kids
who
are
in
care
so
it
while
it
does
happen,
it
is.
It
is
really
rare,
but
when
it
happens,
I
think
it's
it's
egregious.
You
know
it's
it's
terrible
and
it
catches
all
of
our
attention.
C
I'll
stop
I'll
just
say
that
most
of
our
resources
we've
really
been
pushing,
and
this
is
a
long-term
Trend,
pushing
our
resources
Upstream
to
prevent
abuse
neglect
in
the
first
place.
You
know
we
fund
family
support,
centers,
you
know,
26
of
those
throughout
the
county,
we
fund
a
a
good
deal,
a
significant
portion
of
Home,
visiting
programs
and
Outreach
to
new
parents
to
help
to
give
them
what
they
need
to
support
them
to
to
parent,
including
you
know,
a
significant
new
effort
called
hello
baby.
C
C
C
C
So
our
our
caseworkers
are
broken
into
kind
of
two
groups:
the
majority
Are
Family
Services
Workers,
so
they
handle
investigations
of
abuse
and
neglect,
they're,
not
working
the
hotline
and
they
handle
ongoing
cases.
So
they
could
start
their
day
working
on
an
investigation
where
they're
going
checking
with
parents
checking
with
the
child
going
to
the
school
interviewing
interviewing
neighbors
things
like
that,
and
then
they
could
be
in
court.
For
a
case.
C
That's
Court
active
and
they're
they're,
testifying
to
progress
to
keep
families
together
or
in
a
case
where
there's
been
a
removal
progress
to
reunify.
So
they
do
spend
a
good
deal
of
time
in
court.
They
spend
a
good
deal
of
time
in
the
community
with
with
family
parents,
children
checking
in
on
on
them,
but
others
can
obviously.
E
And
would
track
as
a
provider
agency,
we
kind
of
bridge
that
Gap
and
so
the
children
come
in
through
cyf.
But
then
we
are
the
ones
that
recruit
families
for
foster
care
as
well
as
educate
them
and
get
them
approved.
So
then
we're
in
the
home
every
two
weeks
we're
making
sure
that
there
is
no
more
abuse
or
neglect
occurring,
supporting
a
family
supporting
the
children
supporting
the
birth
parent
supporting
the
agency.
E
E
Ultimately,
some
of
these
youth
were
spending
the
night
in
cyf
office
and
so
we're
trying
to
do
some
specialized,
recruiting
and
awareness
on
this
new
pilot
program
operations,
Roman,
12
and
13,
where
we're
working
directly
with
churches
to
be
a
resource
for
this
one
child
or
these
two
children
for
30
days,
whereas
the
one
child,
but
the
entire
church,
wrapping
their
arms
around
this
family
to
help
support
them
until
stable
housing
is
available
connection
with
kinship
Etc.
So
we
know
there's
a
need
for
that.
A
C
Just
to
just
to
add
to
that,
we,
the
county,
is
funding
a
significant
new
violence
prevention
effort
right.
So
there's
you
know
about
50
million
dollars
over
five
years
going
into
violence
prevention,
we're
working
alongside
the
city.
So
we
are
focusing
on
neighborhoods
outside
of
of
the
Central
City,
but
working
with
the
city's.
C
The
and
in
South
Pittsburgh,
because
one
of
the
areas
of
need
in
the
county
is
Mount
Oliver,
which,
as
you
know,
is,
is
surrounded
by
by
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
So
that's
a
good
opportunity
also
to
test
how
our
strategies
will
work
with
with
the
other
City
strategies.
So
we
certainly
acknowledge
the
need
for
support
for
the
for
those
young
people
for
sure
and-
and
we
find
again
with
child
welfare
dollars,
a
ton
of
out
of
school
time
programs,
including
a
significant
new
investment
in
programs
for
teens.
C
G
G
A
C
Now,
for
our
out
of
school
time,
I
mean
we
just
had
a
big
RFP
and
a
community
process
to
select
a
bunch
of
new
providers.
We,
so
we
we
care
about
a
bunch
of
things,
but
especially
can
they
get
kids
there
right?
Do
they
have
kids
who
want
to
come
to
their
program?
Can
they
keep
kids
engaged
in
their
program.
A
K
B
Rtf
is
a
residential
treatment
facility,
so
I
worked
one
early
in
my
career
and
I
could
recall
where
you
know.
Sometimes
the
the
criteria
and
the
admissions
didn't
necessarily
sync
up
and
a
kid
was
placed
into
an
RTF,
but
they
were
around
different
peers
who
may
have
deviant
behaviors,
and
then
they
were
abused.
So
what's
the
process
for
cyf
to
go
and
check
in
at
a
psychiatric
RTF,
and
how
often
do
you
place
there
versus
kinship
I'll?
Stop
there.
C
Yeah,
those
are
good
questions.
I
I
would
maybe
want
to
get
back
to
with
specific
answers.
I
mean
an
RTF
is
a
prescription
right.
You
know
that
so
a
medical
doctor
is
prescribing
the
residential
treatment
facility
and
we
are
following
the
doctor's
prescription
and
the
in
the
case
of
a
where
it's
also
so
you
don't
have
to
be
a
dependent
child
to
to
be
in
an
RTF
in
the
case
where
the
child
is
dependent
and
chord
active.
C
The
judge
obviously,
is
also
approving
that
if
they
didn't
think
that
that
was
an
appropriate
placement,
they
they
would
ask
questions
about
that,
and
they
would
have
the
doctor
testify
and
so
on
so
and
then
we
are
required
to
do
visits
with
our
children
and-
and
you
know
these
guys
know
that
if
they're
in
placement
they're
required
to
do
visits
and
we're
required
to
do
visits
with
with
our
with
our
kids
by
regulation
and
so
but
I
think.
The
important
point
just
to
note
is
that
it
is
a
doctor's
prescription.
B
C
B
I
didn't
know
that
that's
true
and
just
one
more
point,
so
the
cyf
Align
with
jpos,
because
I
recall
that
jpos
would
often
refer
or
is
that
what
you're
talking
about
on
behalf
of
the
courts?
Because,
for
example,
so
I
could
recall
when
a
child
may
have
been
abused
by
another
child
or
even
an
adult?
So
we
would
have
an
incident
report,
but
we
would
have
to
contact
cyf
but
I.
Don't
recall
what
the
follow-up
was
for
that
or
if
it
was
stringent
enough-
and
this
was
15
years
ago.
B
C
On
the
hunt,
yeah
questions
for
you
more
in
the
details,
so
I
can
make
sure
I
can
confirm
the
protocol.
I.
Think
in
those
kinds
of
I
mean
there
are
cases
where
the
state
will
actually
take
those
out
of
our
hands
and
they'll
investigate
them.
If
they
involve
our
staff
or
potentially
something
in
a
facility
like
that
they
would
even
take
on
those
investigations,
but
I
can
I
can
get
otherwise
it
would
follow
our
we.
We
would
go
and
investigate
the
abuser,
neglect
and
and
and
report
that
back.
F
F
I
think
our
Focus
now
should
be
on
where
we
are
and
what
we
could
do
going
forward
and
and
I
think
that
it's
fair
to
raise
the
issues
from
15
years
ago,
and
some
of
them
remain
the
same
in
terms
of
the
struggles
for
placements
and
the
let's
be
honest.
Some
of
the
issues
that
led
to
you
know
some
of
the
systemic
issues
historically
around
racism
and
what
happens
in
different
communities.
We've
made
some
progress.
F
We
have
a
lot
of
ways
to
go
that
hasn't
changed,
but
let
me
say
this:
when
I
started
a
kid's
voice.
23,
almost
24
years
ago
we
had
5
000
clients
every
year.
You
know
we'll
probably
have
less
than
3
000
this
year
we
greatly
reduced
the
number
of
children
who
are
removed
in
in
our
system
and
overall
over
this
time
period,
and
it's
been
a
dramatic
decrease
even
in
the
past
few
years
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
recognize,
what's
changed
and
where
we
are,
we
lead
the
country.
F
You
know
you
heard
about
the
kinship
numbers.
Those
are
really
important
to
some
of
the
points
when
you
see
that
it
I
think
the
kinship
number
was
66.
Was
that
what
I
just
heard
you
know?
No
one
else
in
the
country
has
that
kind
of
rate
where
you
have
children,
when
they
have
to
be
removed
being
and
again
we're
seeing
so
many
fewer
removals
than
we
used
to
so
when
they
are
removed
and
they're
going
to
kin
people.
They
know
people
who
care
about
them,
not
into
stranger
care.
F
To
try
to
support
that
change
when
so
many
of
our
cases
deal
with
neglect
due
to
addiction,
so
I
think
it's
one
important
to
recognize
that
change
and
where
we
are
I
think
it's
also
really
critical
to
recognize
that
the
number
of
cases
just
in
the
past
couple
of
years
have
decreased
by
20
in
terms
of
the
cases
that
are
in
the
dependency
system
and
where
we
are
currently
because
of
the
Staffing
shortages.
You
heard
a
little
bit
about.
A
F
So
I
think,
what's
really
important
to
know
is
that
when
you
hear
that
we're
down
100
case
workers,
there's
not
the
capacity
to
investigate
those
cases,
the
group
The
over-reliance
perhaps
15
years
ago
on
residential
treatment
facilities.
We
don't
have
any
right
now,
I'm
exaggerating
we
have
some
we
do
not
have
enough.
F
There
is
a
desperation
among
counties
across
Pennsylvania
to
find
placements
for
Youth
and
they're
outbidding
each
other
for
those
placements,
and
so
that
means
that
if
you
have
a
difficult
youth,
it
and
you're
a
provider-
and
you
don't
want
to
lose
staff
who
you
can't
replace
you
just
give
your
30-day
notice.
This
was
too
much
for
me
and
there
are
10
other
counties
waiting
to
fill
that
bed
and
guess
where
those
children
are
going
now,
no
they're,
not
they're
going.
We
don't
have
those
places.
F
We
don't
have
enough
group
homes,
we
don't
have
enough
placements
for
some
of
these
cases
and
the
triage
point
is
so
high
to
get
into
the
system
that
what
you
see
in
terms
of
Investigations,
you
can
see
the
numbers
you've
heard
the
numbers
about
how
many,
how
fewer
children
we
now
have
in
the
system
than
we
used
to
even
a
couple
years
ago
or
15
years
ago.
Part
of
that
right
now
is
because
we
don't
have
the
supports
and
services
for
them.
F
So
the
triage
point
is
so
high
that
what
we
see
now
we
don't
have
any
gray
area
cases
or
you
might
wonder
why
this
case
came
in
or
why
that
child
was
removed.
What
we
see
is
the
opposite
that
that
you
mentioned
earlier
about
how
you
see
some
cases
where
maybe
there
aren't
enough
resources
and
there
isn't
enough
intervention.
F
So
it's
a
dramatically
different
world
in
the
past
couple
of
years
than
it
has
been,
and
then,
when
the
triage
point
is
that
high
we're
just
seeing
horrible
cases
of
abuse,
horrible
cases
of
neglect
to
the
point
where
there's
really
no
option
but
to
remove
and
if
and
if
there
is
a
way
that
those
families
can
keep
those
children.
Every
effort
is
being
made
to
do
that
because
we
have
no
Alternatives
right
now.
F
D
But
those
are
our
kids
that
are
coming
into
the
system,
and
so
they
say
because
they're,
not
mental
health,
it's
Behavior,
but
behavior
is
mental
health
because
our
kids
scream
at
us.
They
speak
at
us
through
behavior,
and
so
there's
a
disconnect.
That's
going
on
there
on
who
gets
the
bids
that
are
available.
D
We
had
a
foster
Mother
where
the
gains
regularly
came
past
the
shot
of
her
house,
you
know,
and
so
how
do
we
ask
her
to?
Do
you
got
a
friend
to
pick
fruit?
Oh
sure,
all
my
neighbors
want
to
take
one
of
these
you
well,
she
was
table
is
sticking
out
because
that's
the
type
of
person
she
she
is,
but
everyone's,
not
that
type
of
person
we're
bringing
those
types
of
kiss
in,
and
so
the
face
of
child
welfare.
Just
since
covet
has
changed
significantly
and
I.
D
Think
that
impact
came
on
schools
close
after
school
programs
closed
and
no
one
was
able
to
put
eyes
on
those
kids
because
they're
mandated
reporters
or
what
the
football
team
or
the
football
coaches,
the
schools,
the
teachers.
Those
were
the
people
that
were
able
to
lay
eyes
on
our
kids,
and
so
they
could
see
if
Little
Johnny
was
had
bruises
and
would
be
able
to
report
that
before
now
it's
by
the
time
they
were
getting
to
them
or
to
US
during
covet.
D
D
Because
we
don't
need
these
kiddos
to
age
out
of
the
system?
We
already
know
what
those
outcomes
are.
You
know
we
know
that's
the
highest
populations
of
kids
that
are
being
trafficked.
We
already
know
that
you
know
we
know
that
they
all
become
homeless
within
two
years,
they're
sofa
surfing.
So
we
already
know
that
they're
normally
undereducated.
What
do
we
do
now?
And
we
have
a
lot
of
focus
on
our
older
kids
because
we're
trying
to
prevent
that.
D
But
then
we
have
to
also
make
sure
our
little
ones
get
it
now
too,
so
that
we're
able
to
stop
that
generational
trauma
early
on
for
our
kids,
a
kid.
Okay
even
came
to
my
office
today,
she's,
like
guess
who
came
who's
here
today
for
therapy
and
when
she
said
the
name
was
like
she
was
a
baby
a
few
years
ago
who
was
finalized,
but
the
trauma
still
exists,
and
so
because
of
that
trauma
she
now
is
coming
to
us
for
therapy.
D
You
know
and
she's
five
years
old.
You
know
she's
five
now
and
she
was
a
newborn
when
we
had
her
in
our
system
and
you
know,
and
so
she's
finalizing-
that's
wonderful
and
she's
in
a
family
who's
able
to
notice
that
she
still
has
stuff.
But
our
kids
still
have
stuff
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
make
sure
we
help
them
maneuver
through
I.
A
I
The
the
support
system
starts
with
that
when
that
child
is
a
baby
and
just
stays
with
them,
their
entire
life
until
they're
a
teenager,
and
then
it's
maybe
breaking
various
cycles
that
might
be
there.
What
what
is
the
equivalent
of
that
in
Pittsburgh?
Is
that
happening
in
Pittsburgh,
and
is
that
like?
Where
is
that
happening?
How
it's?
What
does
it
look
like,
and
what's
our
barrier
for,
throwing
that
Beyond,
where
it's
happening
now
successfully.
D
They
research,
those
programs.
They
go
to
visit
those
programs,
often,
but
something
like
hello
baby,
where,
as
soon
as
that
baby
is
born,
Boom
the
county
funds
that-
and
they
start
working
with
that
family
and
with
that
baby.
Now
it
certainly
doesn't
go
up
until
they're
grown
I,
don't
know
what
that
age
limit
is,
but
there's
also
the
Homewood
Children's
Village,
and
so
you
know
that
was
originally
focused
in
New
York
and
then
you
know
people
went
up
there
and
spent
days
and
days
and
days
to
figure
out.
D
How
do
we
do
that
and
they
have
that
one
Mao
block
and
those
are
their
children?
Those
are
their
families
from
Cradle
to
grave
and
making
sure.
So
that's
being
done
and
that's
being
done
right,
but
everyone
doesn't
have
that
level
of
funding
or
that
level
of
the
ability
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
every
Community.
But
that
certainly
is
a
community
where
that
is
happening.
F
K
F
Become
the
young
parents
that
you
are
describing,
they
don't
have
a
family
safety
net
there
among
the
highest
risk
of
children
being
removed
and
placed
into
the
child
welfare
system.
So
we
launched
in
2019
a
new
pilot
for
a
two-generation
advocacy
program
so,
instead
of
just
advocating
for
our
clients
themselves
as
they
aged
out
of
the
system.
How
do
we
advocate
for
the
family
unit?
F
So
how
do
we
help
the
parents
get
stable,
housing
employment
income
into
their
if
they
qualify
for
public
benefits
and
how
do
we
help
the
children
with
developmental
delays
or
other
things
that
they
may
need
to
get
ready
for
school
enroll
them
in
in
medical
insurance
coverage
that
they're
all
eligible
for
that?
Their
parents
may
not
know
about
and
address
those
issues.
F
So
when
we
piloted
that
and
then
after
we
saw
some
good
results
from
that,
the
county
then
found
funding
in
its
needs-based
budget
from
the
state
to
now
fund
that
program
at
kids
voice
and
we're
growing
it.
Now,
it's
still
in
its
infancy,
no
pun
intended,
but
we're
moving
forward
in
growing
those
numbers
and
expect
to
do
more
of
that.
I
will
say
that
we've
worked
with
90
family
units
so
that
you
know
be
more
than
200
individuals,
because
some
of
those
are
two
parent
families.
K
D
F
I
would
say
that,
right
now
the
Staffing
is
the
biggest
challenge,
because
I
think
the
funds
currently
are
available.
They
may
not
be
available
in
another
year
or
more,
but
there's
been,
you
know
a
great
investment
by
our
federal
government
through
the
ARP
and
other
dollars
that
have
been
available
and
and
frankly,
the
truth
is
that
when
you're
down
100
case,
workers
and
Schumann
is
closed
and
your
budget
is
largely
Personnel,
driven
and
you're,
and
you
can't
find
residential
treatment
facilities
which
are
most
expensive
placement.
F
It
makes
it
really
hard
to
spend
all
the
dollars
that
you
have
so
one
of
the
to
answer
your
question
more
bluntly.
One
of
the
most
concerning
things
is
that
this
is
not
for
lack
of
funding.
The
county
is
putting
dollars
out
there
to
try
to
fund
programs.
They
people
cannot
hire,
they
cannot
staff
and
they
can't
make
those
things
happen.
We're
doing
pretty
well,
overall
we're
growing
our
staff
we're
adding
to
that
program,
but
it's
taking
us
months
longer
to
hire
qualified
people
for
those
positions
and
we're
among
the
more
fortunate
ones.
C
Just
to
add
to
that
I
mean
I,
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said,
and
I
I
too
would
have
mentioned
the
Homewood
Children's
Village
as
a
model
like
the
one
you're
talking
about
one
of
the
things
we
do
try
to
do
at
the
county
when,
when
when
funding
is
more
of
an
issue
and
Staffing
is
like
in
more
normal
times
is
also
prioritize.
You
know
high-risk
populations
for
the
most
intensive
services
and
I.
C
Think
we've
we've
gotten
fairly
good
at
that,
and
so
so
that
we're
using
those
those
which
can
be
scarce
resources
and
the
best
ways
possible.
I
and
I
really
support
and
I'm
interested
in
programs
like
Homewood
Children's,
Village
Harlem
children's
Zone.
They
are,
they
are
incredibly
difficult
to
fund
at
scale
and
you
need
the
kind
of
incredible
Partners
like
you
have
in
Homewood,
or
you
have
in
Harlem
to
do
it
like
it's.
C
H
I
was
just
going
to
say
coming
from
you
know
of
my
my
on
the
ground
work
and
transitioning
into
my
new
role
and
starting
being
a
part
of
a
lot
of
Statewide
groups.
I
I
learned
very
quickly
that
Allegheny
county
is
the
model
across
the
state
and
and
having
you
know.
Years
of
you
know
frustration
of
not
having
enough
placements
all
the
things
we've
discussed
even
pre-covered
to
hear
that
we
are
the
model
you
know
it
does
it
encourages
us.
H
The
other
piece
that
I
think
to
piggyback
off
of
what
Dr
Jackie
had
mentioned
well
two
pieces
is
one:
is
mental
health
overall
I
think
that
the
mental
health
of
everyone
in
our
communities
right
now
is
is
problematic
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
cases
that
we
see
coming
in
they
are
so
egregious
and
I
think
that
have
there
been
some
more
preventative
mental
health
supports
not
just
preventative
Services
in
general,
General
I
think
that
that
that's
a
big
piece
of
the
puzzle.
So
how
can
we
collaborate?
H
How
can
we
do
more
work
with
the
mental
health
system
to
avoid
some
of
these
housing
disruptions?
I
met
with
Beverly's
birthdays
recently,
who
everyone
you
know
seems
to
know
because
of
the
birthday
parties,
but
they
also
are
trying
to
move
into
more
of
the
maternal
Aaron,
probably
knows
much
more
than
me
into
the
the
maternal
Health
space,
and
so
since
they've
already
are
making
these
relationships
with
these
women
and
these
families
they're
trying
to
do
what
can
they
do
preventatively
with
these
relationships?
H
They've
made
at
a
birthday
party
to
help
them
get
the
care
that
they
need
get?
You
know,
even
if
they're
they
also
I,
think
I,
don't
know
if
they
got
the
funding
yet
they're
trying
to
get
funding
for
even
postpartum.
Someone
brought
up
postpartum
and
so
I
think
those
are
the
type
of
innovative
things
that
need
to
happen
to
support
the
the
workforce
right
now
and
last
thing
and
we
kind
of
chatted
a
little
bit
while
we
were
waiting
I
think
we
talked
about
Homewood,
Children's,
Village
and
a
few
other
places.
H
There
are
community-based
organizations
and
out
of
school
time,
providers
that
have
really
great
relationships
with
children
and
families
and
and
are
willing
and
able
to
be
used
as
resources
to
fill
in
some
gaps
and
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
look
at
them
to
to
help
us
with
some
of
the
more
preventative
measures
to
keep
Children
and
Families
intact.
K
F
And
Martin,
so
so,
your
question
is
also
maybe
a
good
departure
point
about
where
the
city
might
be
able
to
help
with
some
of
those
barriers.
If
I
could
take
a
minute
and
talk
about
some
of
those
things,
so
I
think
that
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
to
those
young
families
being
able
to
keep
their
children
have
supports
is
housing,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
problems
trying
to
work
through
the
city
housing
system.
F
They
they
have
vouchers,
they
may
be
available,
they
may
not
be
the
department
may
be
there
and
they
can't
get
the
inspection
done
and
it
it
can
languish
for
months.
Some
of
our
then
that
family
tries
to
they
get
shut
down,
they
go
to.
Maybe
they
find
something
McKeesport.
Well,
that's
a
different
housing
system.
F
I
think
it's
it's
a
huge
opportunity,
so
that
may
be
a
place
for
further
discussion
and
collaboration
and
DHS
has
its
a
whole
group
of
of
some
of
them
are
former
Youth
and
others
who
are
working
to
try
to
solve
housing
problems.
We
have
so
many
people
working
on
housing
issues
in
this
system
and
if,
frankly,
if
we're
going
to
give
ourselves
a
grade
for
what
the
impact
is,
it
would
be
pretty
darn
low.
F
I
will
leave
that
political
question
to
you.
So
that's
one
area,
another
area
that
I
think
could
be
helpful
is
around
the
mental
health
and
behavioral
health
issues,
we're
at
a
horrible
crisis,
and
let's
just
put
that
slightly
into
perspective
before
I,
go
to
my
suggestion,
which
is
that
right
now,
if
you
were,
if
you
have
private
insurance
or
frankly,
if
you
have
enough
wealth
to
private
pay
for
your
own
Mental,
Health
Services,
you
can't
find
anyone
their
waiting
lists
are
long.
F
Community
members
like
you've,
heard
about
you,
know
Gwen's,
girls
and
other
programs,
maybe
Jackie.
You
want
to
say
a
little
more
about,
and
many
of
you
may
know
about
the
steel
smiling
program.
This
is
an
effort
to
take
trusted
and
respected
members
in
the
community
who
can
connect
with
people
and
try
to
train
them
about
product
provide
supports
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
at
kids,
voices
we've
just
launched
a
new
collaboration
with
the
Children's
Hospital
adolescent
unit,
where,
while
we're
on
Long
waiting
lists,
we
can
at
least
get
an
assessment
done
early.
F
F
If
you
think
about
what
the
city
does
in
a
sort
of
out
of
school
time,
funding
or
any
kinds
of
programs,
if
you
could
think
about
how
to
integrate
that
with
having
those
programs
provide
some
type
of
connection
to
on
the
behavioral
health
side,
even
if
it's
not
to
professional
therapists
but
other
ways
to
grow
that
capacity
in
our
community,
it
will
make
a
world
of
difference.
I.
Think
overall,.
I
Oh
laying
on
some
of
these
ideas,
because
you
you
were
able
to
flesh
out
for
me
much
more
thoroughly
what
I
was
starting
to
go
on
my
head
on
on
the
housing
front.
This
is
this
is
really
relevant
right
now,
given
the
article
that
maybe
many
people
saw,
you
probably
don't
even
need
to
read
it
because
you
live
it,
you
know
it,
but
that
public
Source
just
came
out
with
showing
that
the
city's
Housing
Authority
or
the
Pittsburgh
Housing
Authority.
I
You
know
it's
egregious
what
I'm
hearing
frankly
and
I
think
this
is
a
crisis
on
the
level
of
us.
You
know
ringing
ringing
the
alarm
Bell,
raising
the
red
flag
around
lead
in
our
pipes,
right
like
that,
was
something
that
the
region
and
city
council
and
the
mayor
and
everyone
came
together
around
like
it
is
at
that
crisis.
I
I
Owners,
rental,
property
owners
to
say
what
are
the
barriers?
Well
I'm,
not
going
to
do
that
right
now
until
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
can,
you
know
know
that
our
City
Housing
Authority
is
operating
on
the
level
of
the
County
Housing
Authority
I'm.
Just
it's
not
worth
my
time
to
do
that.
I
know
what
the
problem
is.
I
That
has
an
out
of
school
time
opportunity,
working
with
a
post
working
with
others
and
we're
all
we
can
map
it.
We
can
see
it
and
we're
all
connected
and
we're
all
talking
with.
You
know
we're
all
talking
in
in
conversation
together
and
then
you
can
layer
on
top
of
that
so
much
the
mental
health
portion
of
it,
the
Workforce
Readiness
portion
as
homework
children,
Children's
Village,
is
beautifully
doing
and
attending.
You
know
clean
energy,
Workforce
conferences
to
say
we
want
to
be
at
the
table
here.
So
I
I
want
that.
I
But
I
want
that
for
every
out
of
school
time
opportunity
and
to
know
where
our
strengths
and
weaknesses
lie
and
where
we
have
out
of
school
time
deserts
so
that
you
know.
Where
does
it
exist
that
we
have
more
than
a
15-minute
walk
from
someone's
home
to
an
opportunity
out
of
school?
It
feels
like
it's
there.
We
have
amazing
things
happening
and
we
just
need
to
sort
of
understand
it
holistically
and
then
be
able
to
layer
those
other
things.
On
top
of
it.
H
H
Traditionally
they
looked
for.
They
started
their
work
in
April
to
look
at
the
out-of-school
time
activities
for
the
kids
over
the
summer,
and
so
they
realize
that
that's
just
not
sufficient,
and
so
this
year
they
started
they're
starting
year
round
to
see
what
the
out-of-school
time
providers,
what
the
availability
is,
bridging
those
gaps,
I
believe
I,
can
follow
up
and
see.
I
believe
that
they
did
come
up
with
an
interactive
map
that
can
be
shared,
Oh,
Aaron,
I'm,
sorry,
you
might
know
better
than
me:
I'm
sorry
I'm,
a
part
of
the
OST
group.
H
This,
the
community-based
organizations
and
the
mental
health
connections
I
know
the
boys
and
girls
club
is
they're,
starting
their
pilot
in
May,
where
they
have
will
they'll
be
able
to
any
of
the
the
teens
or
adolescents
that
go
to
the
program
can
obtain
mental
health
treatment
for
free
through
vitable,
so
so
vitable
will
be
provided
into
Services
the
services.
So
we
there
will
not
be
that
issue
of
waiting.
H
A
D
I'm
just
going
to
throw
away
that
as
we're
talking
about
after
school
time
and
how
critical
that
is
for
kids,
that
I
think
that
we
have
to
also
look
at
funding
transportation
for
those
same
things,
particularly
councilwoman.
We
were
talking
about
that
15-minute.
Walk
could
be
for
some
of
our
kids,
that
15-minute
walk
is
through
a
war
zone
and
so
that
that's
not
good
for
them,
and
so
they
don't
go
or
either
they
go
and
everyone's
afraid
for
them.
C
C
You
know
Scott
said
it
well
in
terms
of
private
insurance
and
so
on,
but
we
are
doing
two
things
and-
and
it
does
feel
like
it's
looking
up
a
little
bit
so
I
just
want
to
mention
some
some
positive
things
using,
so
it
is
American
Rescue
plans,
funds,
the
county
and
County
Council
agreed
to
about
six
million
dollars
in
funding
those
informal
mental
health
supports.
So
not
our
traditional
Medicaid
treatment.
C
So
we,
you
know,
convinced
the
the
state,
and
presumably
you
know
they
convince
the
Feds
that
we
could
use
medical,
spend
dollars
to
to
put
15
million
dollars
into
loan
forgiveness
to
retain
therapists
in
these
front
line
roles.
Only
for
this
pup.
You
know
for
this
population
and
to
hire
new
new
staff,
and
so
we
can.
We
might
have
a
whole
new
group
of
people.
I
hope,
I'm,
really
hopeful,
because
this
is
above
and
beyond
what
other
loan
forgiveness
programs
does.
It
has
a
kind
of
cohort
model
with
leadership
development.
C
So
we
could
bring
in
a
whole
new
class
of
of
therapists
to
be
working
with
this
population.
So
no
doubt
it
is.
It
is
a
really
tough
time,
but
but
we
aren't
really
thinking
and
trying
over
at
the
county,
to
do
different
things
to
get
different
Workforce
into
the
field
and
to
keep
the
workforce
that
we.
F
F
Not
showing
up
for
those
hearings
and
then
getting
a
criminal
record
that
makes
it
harder
for
them
to
get
a
job.
It
makes
it
harder
for
them
to
get
housing,
and
these
are
in
cases
where
you're
not
entitled
to
a
public
defender,
because
the
summary
offenses
could
not
result
in
jail
time,
and
so
the
Liberty
interests
of
the
Constitution
are
not
invoked.
F
That
can
lead
itself
to
a
detainer.
It
ends
or
or
a
failure
to
comply
order
from
the
county.
And
you
get
picked
up
on
that,
because
you're
stopped
for
a
traffic
violation
and
that
shows
up
and
you're
then
potentially
incarcerated.
And
if
that
happens,
and
you
don't
show
up
for
work
the
next
day.
Guess
what
happens
to
your
job.
And
if
you
have
children
at
home,
when
that
happens,
that
evening
guess
where
they
end
up
in
the
child
welfare
system.
F
We're
really
I
think
creating
some
significant
problems
that
have
disproportionate
and
discriminatory
impacts.
It'll
be
a
very
interesting
thing
for
for
City
to
council
to
look
at
whether
there's
a
way
to
abolish
some
of
those
fines
so
that
they,
if
there's
an
action
you
can
take
in
in
that
regard,
we
have
a
project
at
kids
voice
where
we
represent
our
former
clients,
as
I
said
through
25,
and
when
they
have
these
types
of
charges,
we
go
to
court
with
them.
We
reach
out
to
them
and
say
you
have
this
charge.
F
We
can
help
you
if
you
would
like
for
free
and
last
year
we
had
a
90
success
rate
in
those
cases
for
this
population
of
having
the
charges
withdrawn,
dismissed
or
the
clients
found
not
guilty.
That
compares
to
36
percent
for
youth,
who
didn't
have
our
representation,
who
are
former
Foster
youth?
As
you
can
imagine,
the
vast
proportion
of
these
charges
are
for
minority
youths
over
65
are
black
males
and
we
have
over
80
percent
success
rate
for
our
black
clients
versus
about
29
in
the
public.
F
So
this
doesn't
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
these
types
of
things
and
I
want
to
give
Aaron
credit,
because
when
they
helped
us
run
the
data
to
see
those
differences
and
then,
with
that
data,
went
to
the
County
Public
Defender's
office
and
asked
them
to
replicate
that
program.
It's
not
being
replicated
in
Cumberland
County,
but
if
those
fines
and
fees
went
away,
you
wouldn't
have
to
have
this,
because
then
you
wouldn't
necessarily
be
in
a
situation
where
it
could
affect
people
as
as
much
as
it
does.
J
F
J
And
whatever
it
is,
you
know,
you're
still
hitting
walls
and
in
in
one
particular
case
that
I
have
from
just
yesterday.
I
have
a
grandmother
who's
got.
You
know,
she's
got
a
granddaughter
in
elementary
school
age,
granddaughter
who
has
been
kicked
off
of
the
bus
for
very
various
behavioral
issues.
The
mother
is
incarcerated
and
she
need,
but
she
needs
this
kid
to
be
on
the
bus
to
go
to
school
every
day
and
the
grandmother's
not
in
a
position
so
and
I
got
the
and
again.
J
Well,
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
the
grandmother
doesn't
have
somebody
she
can.
You
know
if
the
child
has
been
placed
with
her
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
official
or
not
official,
but
that
that
there
isn't
like
a
caseworker,
basically
that
she
can
call
and
say,
look
I
need
you
to
call
the
school
and
the
bus
company
and
and
whoever
it
is
that
needs
to
get
everybody
in
place.
J
To
get
this
kid,
the
transportation
she
needs
again,
it's
anecdotal,
so
I
guess
from
that
perspective,
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
with
the
case
workers-
and
you
know
in
these
and
kids
who
are
moving
from
here
to
there
I
mean,
does
a
kid
in
particular
an
older
kid
I
suppose,
or
the
caretaker
of
a
younger
kid
have
that
direct
line
like
someone
they
can
just
call
and
be
like
I
need
help
with
this.
Is
that
I
mean.
C
I
mean
maybe
I'll
start
and
then
others
can
can
join
in
so
I
mean
yes,
theoretically
right.
So
if,
if
the
child
is
is
in
in
placement
with
child
welfare,
they
should
be
able
to
call
their
caseworker
and
get
help
with
that.
Absolutely
the
kid
would
also
have
a
an
attorney
like
kids
voice,
potentially
in
that
case,
and
the
parents
also
would
often
have
would
have
an
attorney
in
that
case.
Who
can
also
be
helpful,
and
everyone
is
busy
right,
so
the
caseworker
might
not
I
it's
true.
C
The
caseworkers
don't
always
get
back
to
people
I'm,
not
gonna.
You
know
sit
here
and
say
that
that
never
happens
one
resource
we
have
at
Human
Services.
So
let
me
just
go
back
to
housing.
Real,
quick
and
things
can
be.
You
know
all
a
bit
all
over
the
map.
Like
the
story,
you
know,
the
anecdote
you
gave
is
is
a
trick.
It's
a
tricky
issue
like
it's.
It's
got
to
be
negotiated.
C
The
link
for
housing
should
should
be
able
to
answer
most
questions
on
housing,
so
I'll
just
I'll
say
that
that
should
that
should
be
your
first
stop,
but
the
the
Department
of
Human
Services
has-
and
it's
been
around
for
about
20
years-
something
called
the
director's
Action
Line.
So
let's
say
your
caseworkers,
you
know
of
a
case
in
the
case
we're
not
getting
back
to
anybody
right,
they're,
just
they're
not
doing
their
job
they're.
C
You
know
that
people
can
call
me,
of
course,
that's
that
that's
fine,
but
I'm
actually
going
to
first
send
them
to
the
director's
Action
Line.
We
have
six
staff
who
kind
of
investigate
those
cases,
help
people
to
resolve
those
issues
and
could
help
Define
the
right
person
in
in
tricky
situations.
So
if
that
child
is
is,
is
in
care,
they
should
actually
have
a
bunch
of
Advocates
supporting
them,
the
caseworker
who
should
get
back
to
them
and
try
and
make
sure
they
get
on
that
bus
and
negotiate
that
with
the
school.
C
No
matter
what
the
kid
did
they
got
to
get
on,
they
got
to
get
back
on
the
bus.
We
got
to
figure
it
out
or
arrange
other
Transportation,
but
the
child
also
would
have
an
attorney
and
so
on,
but
the
director's
Action,
Line
and
I.
You
know
I've
got
cards,
we
can
give
the
number
you
guys
can
call
you
can.
You
know
sort
those
through
us
as
well,
because
some
of
the
stuff
does
get
does
get
tricky
and
there's
often
multiple
sides
to
every.
You
know.
J
So
well,
so
that
that
that's
good
to
hear
I
mean
that
at
least
in
in
this
case
of
of
chat,
you
know
with
child
welfare.
There
is
so
there
is
essentially
it's
like
hand-holding
right,
because
people
can't
you
know
you,
you
throw
three
phone
numbers
at
someone
and
then
you've
lost
them.
They're,
it's
more
than
they
can
do.
To
be
honest,
just
to
you
know,
or
they
call
and
don't
get
an
immediate
answer.
So
so
so
in
essence,
at
least
at
least
with.
J
C
C
We've
taken
responsibility:
in
that
case
the
court
has
and,
and
then
we've
you
know,
work
with
our
partners
to
do
it.
So
it's
our
it's
our
job
to
make
sure
that
that
that
happens,
and
so
yes,
when,
when
in
that
situation,
if
the
child
doesn't
care
yes,
but
but
there
are
a
lot
of
situations
where,
where
they're
not
like
we're
not
involved,
you
know
we're
not
involved
at
all
the
the
you
know,
the
grandmother
or
the
grandparent
is
taking
care
of,
and
we
should
still
be
able
to
to
support
people.
C
So
we
are
working
with
our
largest
kinship
care
provider,
a
second
chance
to
help
those
families
who
are
entirely
outside
of
the
system
have
similar
supports,
so
that
you
know
that
the
kind
of
resources
of
the
of
the
system
can
can
be
there
to
be
supportive,
but
but
yeah
and
and
if
you're
ever
run
into
a
real
challenge.
The
director's
Action
Line
is
the
is
the
place
to
go.
E
K
E
Which
button
yet
alone,
if
you
say
okay,
go
on
this
website
and
then
try
to
navigate
and
so
as
a
partner
of
Allegheny
County
in
addition
to
being
able
to
connect
with
the
caseworkers
there,
then
that's
when
our
team
comes
in
as
well.
What's
going
on
when
we're
visiting
what
are
some
of
the
issues?
What
they're
not
going
to
school
then,
let's
make
that
happen
and
do
that
advocacy
that
I
talked
about
prior
to
make
sure
that
the
needs
are
being
met
of
the
child
and
the
family,
and
so
it
can
be
become
overwhelming.
E
So
that
may
mean
that
day
we
take
the
laptop,
because
we
already
know
Miss
Jones
really
struggles
with
trying
her.
She
gets
frustrated
because
you
know
maybe
she
can't
see
or
whatever
the
issue
is,
but
it's
based
on
that
relationship.
Focus
piece
on
what
can
I
do
to
help
you
opposed
to
what
happened.
K
E
So
yeah
it's
constantly
in
that
manner.
So
and
even
for
us
there's
a
lot
of
times,
people
call
and
they're
stuck,
and
so
we
pride
ourselves
on
always
having
someone
answer
the
phone.
It
can
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
CEO.
It
does
because
we
know
people
are
in
crisis
and
then
kind
of
directing
them,
whether
it's
to
the
United
Way
helpline
or
you
know
what,
if
this
is,
who
you
may
want
to
reach
out
or
here's
a
specific
number
of
somebody
that
I
work
with
in
the
past.
J
Yeah
I
mean
I,
know,
I,
know
for
myself
and
and
I'm
I'm
sure
that
this
also
is
out
there
in
various
places,
but
I
I
know
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
just
like
if
you
get
a
call
like
this,
this
is
the
number
you
call
you
know.
This
is
the
person
that
you
connect
to
you
know
and
whether
that
be
a
housing
issue
or
a.
C
Yeah,
no,
we
do
have
a
first
best
step
list
and
we're
happy
to
share
that,
and
it
is
on
a
website.
You
know
a
County
website
called
Allegheny
connect
so
because
there's
we're
like
it's
one
of
these
weird
problems,
that
is,
is
strange:
I'm,
like
a
data
person,
it's
just
strangely
hard
to
solve
how
to
how
to
connect
people
to
what
they
need.
It's
we're
working
on
it,
I
promise,
but
it's
just
it's
it's
it's
hard
to
solve
here
and
it's
hard
to
solve
everywhere.
C
K
B
B
But
these
are
those
nuanced
situations
where
you
want
to
help
the
individuals
Empower
themselves
to
get
out
of
the
situation,
but
at
the
same
time
you
don't
want
to
empower
them
to
do
something,
that's
contradictory
to
what
maybe
a
court
order
would
be
about
what
they
can
do
with
their
children
so
far
or
with
the
cyf
caseworker
did
so.
You
know
it
becomes
pretty
difficult
right
now
to
navigate
these
conversations.
B
So
you
know
I
think
that
I'll
continue
to
lean
on
you
about
more
resource
information
and
also
what
you
know
we
face
in
these
districts
and
I
know
councilman
Warwick,
some
of
the
issues
you've
talked
about
I've
been
right
there
on
the
email
chains
with
you
and
I
know
how
they're
firing
off
so
I
just
want
to
say.
Aaron
has
been
on
producing
a
lot
of
information,
so
you
know,
as
it
hits
us
I'm
going
to
continue
to
connect.
So
thank
you.
J
It
seems
a
little
too
sort
of
in
in
the
age
of
automation.
You
know
like
press
one
for
this
press
one
and
go
to
the
website
and
at
the
end
I
mean
it's.
You
know
when
people
are
in
their
absolute
most,
they
just
needs
it's
just
like
just
they
and
it's
of
course
a
staffing
issue.
I
know,
but
it's
just
like
people
just
need
someone
to
literally
do
it
for
them.
You
know
it's
like
I.
Think
of
my
kids
like
Mom.
Just
do
it
for
me
like,
yes,
that's
what
you
need
right
now.
D
Another
thing
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
remember
is
everybody
can't
navigate
those
things
you
know.
Reading
level
of
people
vary
so
much.
Everyone
can't
read
that
report
or
read
that
form
or
even
when
we're
trying
to
approve
a
family,
you
know
or
okay,
we've
gone
out.
They
haven't
sent
us
the
paper.
Oh
I
need
to
take
this
paper
with
them,
because
then
we
need
to
go
over
it
together
because
they
may
not
understand
all
this
craziness
that
we
have
written
down.
That's
policy
and
procedure.
D
I
have
seen
them
fill
a
refrigerator
in
a
freezer
so
that
the
family
doesn't
have
to
come
into
the
system,
and
so
you
know
so
when
they
end
up
coming
into
the
system
nine
times
out
of
ten
there's
something
else
in
there
underlying
that
has
happened,
the
thing
because
the
families
in
crisis
mode-
that's
the
piece
that
they
know
is
I'm
unhoused,
because
I
know
that
there's
to
Foster
love,
you
know
they
can
go
near
and
literally
shop
for
everything
they
need
for
their
house.
There's
a
lot
of
systems
that
are
out
there.
D
That
would
provide
that.
You
know
the
Urban
League
gives
you
know,
money
for
rent
and
things
like
that
to
be
able
to
help
people
out
so
again,
sometimes
it's
not
being
able
to
connect
it
because
they
don't
understand
it,
and
then
the
information
comes
in
differently
for
these
kids
to
come
into
the
system
right
now,
it's
taking
a
lot
because
we
don't
have
the
staff
it's
easier.
D
To
put
it's
easier
to
give
you
two
thousand
dollars
in
groceries
or
five
thousand
dollars
to
furnish
your
home,
then
to
bring
it
into
care,
and
especially
stranger
care
is
going
to
cost
us
much
more
than
that
in
order
to
provide
that
service
to
our
families,
and
so
I've
always
come
to
see
if
I
have
saved.
But
I
do
that
across
the
country,
because
people
in
other
states
do
not
have
a
clue
on
what's
being
done
in
Allegheny
County.
They
don't
have
any
idea
that
these
things
even
exist.
D
Are
you
you
all
do
that
in
Pittsburgh?
Absolutely
we
do
and
we've
been
doing
it
for
years,
but
we
often
don't
get
the
recognition
here,
because
no
one
understands
that
it's
not
happening
anywhere
else,
and
so
we
have
to
do
that
for
ourselves.
But
it
is
it's
it's
happening
here.
People
make
the
right
phone
calls,
then
we
can
give
them
the
right
people
to
make
contact
with
to
advocate
for
them
on
their
behalf
and
to
get
the
wheels
turning
in
the
right
direction
for
them
and
I.
D
Think
Allegheny
I
think
we're
pretty
good
at
that.
As
providers
on
helping
people
get
the
ball
rolling
in
order
to
help
them
to
become
better
and
to
help
them
heal,
because
if
I'm
in
crisis
I'm
also
being
traumatized,
and
so
while
I'm
in
my
traumatic
State
my
cortisol
levels
up
here,
you
telling
me
it's
all
going
to
be.
Okay
and
I-
don't
see
it
today,
it
doesn't
mean
anything
today.
H
I
was
just
going
to
say
real
quick
that
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point.
I
think
Allegheny
county
is
very
resource,
Rich
that
there
is
a
lot
of
resources.
There's
the
example
you
gave
there's
probably
two
three
four
five
six
people
grandma
could
call,
but
I
I
started
my
career
out
in
kinship
care,
and
you
know
Dr
Jackie's
right,
it's
overwhelming
for
for
anybody,
but
particularly
family
members
who
get
that
call
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
say
hey.
Can
you
take
your
child
and
grandma's
trying
to
remember?
H
Well,
she
has
five
phone
numbers
who
to
call
so
so
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
resources.
There's
lots
of
people
I
think
that
one
thing
that
I've
noticed
working
in
all
the
different
systems
is
sometimes
and
not
intentionally,
I,
don't
think,
but
sometimes
I
think
people
work
in
silos
and
so
I
actually
started
a
child
welfare
stakeholders
group
just
at
the
end
of
2022,
so
in
December.
So
it's
really
new,
so
Shameless
plug.
If
you
would
like
to
become
and
and
meet
with
us,
but
I.
H
So
right
now,
I
just
have
some
cyf
caseworkers,
some
parent
Advocates
child
Advocates
different
folks,
a
couple
people
from
the
city,
the
community,
policing,
the
social
workers
so
but
we're
looking
to
expand
and
I
think
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
what
can
we
tackle?
Without
you
know,
we
can't
we
can't
solve
Workforce
issues.
We
can't
do
some
of
these
things,
but
what
could
we
do
as
a
collective
to
help
right
now
and
I
think
what
we've
noticed?
H
Our
meetings
go
over
every
single
time,
because
it's
filled
with
a
room
of
passionate
people
who
aren't
getting
paid
it's
all
after
hours,
and
so
we
have
and
I
think
the
most
passionate
under
the
cof
case
workers
because
they
said
I.
Obviously
what
caseworker
said
to
me
I.
Thank
you
so
much
for
starting
this,
because
I
want
my
voice
to
be
heard.
They
care
about
children
and
families.
H
They
don't
do
this
for
the
paycheck,
and
so
so
we
are
trying
to
like
I
said
we're
really
new,
but
we're
trying
to
see
what
could
we
do
as
a
collective
to
to
make
some
changes
that
you
know
eventually,
you
know
some.
Some
big
policy
changes,
but
in
the
in
the
interim,
what
can
we
do
right
now
so
so
and
a
lot
of
it's
just
we
had
a
meeting
last
week
and
a
lot
of
it's
just
like
did
you
know
this
service
is
available.
F
That's
great,
thank
you,
so
I
wanted
to
look
back
to
this,
the
housing
question
that
was
posed
and
councilman
Warwick.
What
you're
saying
I
think
highlights
the
point
I
was
making
before
and
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
it
that
we
have
a
housing
crisis
and,
frankly,
if
you
think
about
this
really
concretely,
it
is
unfair
to
make
the
Department
of
Human
Services
Department
of
Housing
Services
and
the
reason
that
all
these
calls
are
happening.
The
reason
there
are
housing
Navigators.
F
There
are
reason
that
we're
trying
to
do
these
things
and
some
of
the
things
that
Jackie's
talking
about
is
because
our
first
point
of
service
to
those
families
of
the
City
Housing
Authority,
that's
what
they
should
be
going.
That's
where
there
should
be
someone
to
answer
that
call
as
a
point
of
contact
to
say:
hey:
here's
where
this
is
a
family
and
Ricky.
F
When
you
talk
about
your
that
that
family
should
be
able
to
go
there
first
and
foremost
and
say:
oh
I,
know
that
and
I
know
all
the
things
that
Jackie's
talking
about
and
I
can
get
you
what
you
need.
Here's
where
I
can
find
you
emergency
housing
at
the
moment.
Here's
how
I
can
help
you
find
rent
money.
Here's
how
I
can
help
you
look
into
these
other
issues.
Here's
where
we
have
available
housing.
Here's
where
you
can
look
other
places,
here's
where
you
might
connect
to
some
of
the
Department
of
Human
Services.
F
This
is
a
broken
system
when
you
are
asking
questions
frankly
about
why
the
Department
of
Human
Services
should
be
fixing
the
housing
problems
in
our
community
and
I.
Just
want
to
make
that
point
and
say
that's
where
we
could
all
come
together
and
Madam
president.
When
you
talk
about
Reinventing
the
system,
how
are
you
going
to
do
that?
I?
Think
that's
a
great
place
to
think
about.
How
could
we
restructure
this?
How
could
we
do
it
differently?
A
Ahead,
yeah,
okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
say,
I
think
the
one
call
should
be
211,
which
is
also
Allegheny
County
United
Way's
helpline.
That
should
be
giving
people
services
and
connecting
people
with
all
the
services
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
better
in
that
regard,
and
maybe
it
is
us
working
together
and
working
with
3-1-1
and
how
we
can
all
collaborate
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
in
The
Parent
Hotline
at
Pittsburgh,
Public
Schools,
just
on
we
have
all
these
separate.
A
You
know
hotlines
and
all
these
separate
places
that
we
call
and
if
we
could
bring
them
together.
Somehow,
if
we
merge
anything,
it
should
be
some
of
those
services
so
that
we
can
bring
people
together.
So
they
truly
do
have
one
call
to
make
and
and
really
get
the
resources
out
to
people.
But
with
that
said,
I
would
also
say
that
you
know
I
do
call
Caster
minion.
A
Authority
and
when
I
have
someone
who
calls
my
office
and
needs
help
I
do
reach
out
to
him
and
he
and
his
staff
have
been
responsive
with
what
they
have,
and
so
I
and
I
do
know
that
they
have
tried
a
lot
of
different
things:
to
increase
the
housing
in
the
city.
I,
don't
know
all
the
details,
I
didn't
read
the
article
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
article
I
will
tell
you
what
what
I
know
my
first
experience
has
been
with
them.
A
D
B
Thank
you,
director,
Dalton,
for
continuing
following
up
with
me
about
all
these
issues
that
continue
to
grow
more
and
more,
and
you
see
that
city
council,
when
the
legislative
body
do
get
these
types
of
calls
in
the
offices
more
so
than
what
maybe
people
think,
because
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
is
traditional
in
the
Human
Service
scope
of
of
work.
But
the
calls
are
certainly
coming
through.
So
thank
you.
A
And
it's
a
good
thing:
we
bumped
into
each
other
at
Marshalls
right
but
but
I
do
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
all
of
you
and
all
of
your
work
and
and
all
of
those
people
that
are
doing
things
to
work
with
our
families
and
our
kids.
Back
in
when
I
worked
for
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools,
one
of
the
things
they
had
was
Nancy
Hornsby
had
a
second
time
around
grandparent
program
for
grandparents,
raising
their
Grant
and
that
program
was
filled
all
the
time
with
a
lot.
Do
you
remember
it?
A
They
had
one
on
the
hill
in
the
East
End.
Well,
two
different
East,
End
ones,
the
West,
End
and
South
Hills
I
mean
they
had
five,
but
she
really
created
that
program
and
what
she
did
was
amazing,
because
she
got
resources
and
just
honestly,
just
to
get
away
for
a
little
bit
with
people
with
you
know
the
same
kinds
of
situations
raising
their
grandkids
I.
Think
that
really
just
gave
people
like
they
weren't
alone.
A
You
know
that
feeling
of
not
being
alone
that
support
system
so
I
think
connecting
people
with
those
types
of
programs.
We
do
have
a
program
starting
in
our
district.
It's
Sister
Mary
Save
a
Life
today
Pittsburgh
she
is
she.
She
has
provided
like
free
Christmas
gifts,
Christmas
dinners
gifts,
everything
for
about
1600
families.
You
know
across
across
Allegheny
County.
A
For
years
this
past
year,
she's
been
past
two
years.
Ppg
Paints
has
allowed
her
to
use
that
that
facility,
because
she
has
so
many
kids
that
come
out
and
then
when
she
gets
home
she
gets
even
hundreds,
more
people
calling
and
she
still
takes
care
of
them.
But
she
does.
You
know
free
dental
care,
free,
Eye,
Care,
all
this,
but
one
of
the
things
things
Ricky
and
I
are
working
with
her
on
is
working
with
the
magistrate
in
our
area.
A
So
when
a
kid
gets
sent
to
the
magistrate,
instead
of
finding
the
parents
or
punishing
the
kid,
we
have
the
families
going
to
her
to
get
the
help
that
they
need
and
she's
connecting
with
people
like
you
and
your
services
that
you
have
she's
an
amazing
program.
She's,
it's
honestly,
it's
the
first
time
she
got
significant
funding
was
through
Stop.
The
Violence
funding
so
I
do
want
to
say
that
you
know
I
know
that
there's
some
good
that
those
dollars
but
I
would
love
to
see
a
lot
more
I
like
that.
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A
C
So
so
we
totally,
we
totally
agree,
we're
we're
and
it's
relative.
It's
new
that
we're
funding
2-1-1
before
that
had
been
a
kind
of
separate
entity.
2-1-1
should
be
the
front
door
for
any
Human
Service.
There
are
some,
of
course
there
are
sub
kind
of
issues,
but
if,
if
there's
one
number
to
call
it,
it
is
absolutely
211..
So
we
we
agree
with
that.
We're
we
we've
upped.
Their
funding,
reduce
their
wait
time.
D
C
A
C
B
A
And
I
will
say
that
director
we
or
chief
Wheatley
is
now
on
housing
authority
and
I
think
that
the
intention
was
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
they
may
be
there.
So
maybe
we
should
invite
him
to
another
meeting
that
would
follow-up
meeting,
but
I
think
we
should
do
this
more
often
so
that
we
can
talk
I.
Do
we
do
do
the
mental
health?