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SPIN Scooters
A
A
So
yeah
welcome
everyone
to
our
post
agenda
on
the
spin
scooter
pilot
should
I
guess:
I'll
introduce
the
council
members
present.
There's
myself,
council
member
Krause.
A
Council
member
strasberger
and
then
should
we
have
our
guests,
come
up
to
the
table.
A
And
just
to
check,
do
we
have
Dr
Rec
online?
A
So
hello,
everyone,
thank
you
for
being
here,
I
appreciate
it
I
guess:
let's
just
go
through
and
everyone
introduce
themselves
to
to
start.
A
A
So
it
is
my
understanding
that
director
Lucas,
you
have
a
presentation,
yes
and
Mr
Schaffner.
Do
you
also
have
a
presentation,
correct,
okay
and
then
Dr
Rec
and
you
have
a
presentation,
correct.
A
Yeah
yeah
that'll
be
fine
from
the
questions.
Yeah
that'll
be
fine
thanks.
So
why
don't
we
do
this?
Why
don't
we
have
you
all
present,
maybe
take
like
five
minutes
or
so
each
and
then
so
you
do
your
presentation,
then
Dr
Rec
can
summarize
his
study
and
and
then
we
can
all
ask
questions.
You
know
we'll
just
go,
go
down
the
chain
and
ask
questions
from
members
sound.
H
H
C
So
good
afternoon,
thanks
for
having
us
here
today,
I
will
go
Lightning
Fast
through
this
presentation.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
introduced
the
context
that
spin
scooters
is
operating
within.
You
know
how
they
ended
up
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
how
we've
managed
the
program
since
they
launched
and
some
of
the
results
of
that
we've
seen
in
the
ridership
that
it
has
achieved.
C
So
you
all
know,
domi's
mission
is
basically
to
get
people
around
the
city
safely
and
efficiently
in
Pittsburgh.
Today,
you
may
not
know
that
20
of
our
households
do
not
have
access
to
a
private
car.
The
map
on
the
screen
and
in
the
presentation
shows
the
gaps
where
households
are
not
served
by
high
frequency
Transit.
This
is
straight
from
Pittsburgh
Regional
transit's
website
and
the
there
has
been
an
increase
in
fatal
crashes
involving
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
C
Domi
launched
move
PGH,
which
is
a
Mobility
as
a
service
program,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
were
more
options
available
to
people
to
get
around,
especially
without
cars,
because
of
the
aforementioned
safety
concerns
on
our
streets
and
the
lack
of
access
that
many
homes
lack
to
automobiles.
Spin
scooters
was
launched
as
part
of
move
PGH
prior
to
launching
move.
C
C
The
city
does
not
pay
spin
to
operate.
There
is
not
a
contract,
it's
a
permit
just
like
we
have
with
Zipcar
and
Pogo
Bike
Share,
as
you
can
see
on
this
Slide.
The
operating
permit
and
the
operations
policy,
both
of
which
are
publicly
available
on
domi's
website,
oversee
and
require
different
things
from
spin,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
program
Not
only
was
safe,
but
that
it
was
accessible
especially
to
those
underserved
communities.
C
So
we
require
a
number
of
things
from
distribution
of
the
fleet,
responsiveness
to
complaints,
about
Miss
parked
or
misused
scooters
and
other
requirements,
including
the
number
of
vehicles
that
they're
allowed
to
have
and
other
service
provisions
for
for
those
who
may
be
listening
in,
you
have
to
be
18
years
or
older
to
Ride
Scooters
in
Pittsburgh
and
to
use
spin.
Specifically,
we
have
another.
We
have
a
number
of
other
safety
requests
of
spin
Riders.
We
want
them
to
wear
a
helmet.
C
They
can't
leave
scooters
on
sidewalks
where
they
are
blocking
other
amenities
or
the
sidewalk
and
in
certain
parts
of
our
city
we
require
that
they
be
parked
either
in
a
Corral
or
a
designated
parking
station.
All
of
these
were
to
make
sure
that
this
program
would
serve
as
many
people
as
possible
and
negatively
impact
as
few
people
as
possible
by
having
a
real
regimented
program.
C
C
C
And
Domi
oversight.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
with
the
permit
and
the
operations
policy
and
plan,
we
have
a
lot
of
rules
and
requirements
that
we
have
put
on
spin
as
an
operator
and
we
manage
them
and
we
follow
them.
We
do
this
through
the
data.
That's
provided
through
a
dashboard
which
there's
a
screenshot
in
the
presentation
here.
Let
me
make
sure
good
councilmember
Wilson
has
one
you
got
one.
C
We
also
perform
random
audits
where
we
actually
go
out.
Domey
staff
goes
out,
we
walk
our
streets
and
we
document
any
issues.
We
find
we
report
those
issues
and
then
we
document
how
long
it
takes
for
spin
to
correct
them
and
those
are
done
secret,
shopper
style
where
we
don't.
Let
spin
know
in
advance
that
we're
doing
it
so
point
being
that
there's
a
lot
of
rules
on
them
and
Domi
manages
that
through
various
means,
so
in
terms
of
trips,
so
spin
has
been
authorized
to
have
up
to
1500
scooters
on
our
streets.
C
They
operate
depending
on
the
season
between
750
and
1500
regularly.
There
have
been
almost
a
million
trips
on
that
thousand
scooters.
So
almost
a
million
times
people
have
been
able
to
get
from
point
A
to
point
B
in
our
city,
we've
seen
over
200
000
Unique
Individuals
register
to
use
those.
So
it's
not
that
a
million
trips
are
being
done
by
the
same
10
000
people,
200,
000,
unique
users
and
just
for
reference.
The
population
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
is
about
three
hundred
thousand.
C
Nearly
30
percent
of
those
folks
also
said
that
they're
using
spin
to
get
to
Transit,
which
is
demonstrating
that
it
is
making
connections
for
people
who
were
perhaps
underserved
by
being
close
to
high
frequency
Transit
and
for
almost
a
third
over
a
third
of
those
trips
that
were
taken
by
scooter
for
those
folks
who
do
have
access
to
a
car.
They
would
have
taken
their
car
for
that
trip
if
they
had
not
taken
a
scooter.
C
That
day,
when
I
hear
that,
as
the
Director
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
I
hear
that
we've
seen
over
300
000
car
trips
taken
out
of
our
streets,
that
means
less
congestion,
better
air
quality
and
fewer
like
fewer
chances
of
a
safety
incident
involving
especially
a
vulnerable
user
like
a
pedestrian.
So
how
are
people
writing
they're
using
it
for
commuting?
C
Nearly
50
percent
of
users
are
using
it
to
get
to
work
or
to
get
to
school,
and
you
know
of
those
folks
about
50
percent
have
reported
that
they
make
lower
less
than
80
percent
of
the
area
median
income,
so
people
are
using
it
to
get
where
they
need
to
go,
and
a
lot
of
those
folks
are
identifying
as
lower
income.
C
This
is
all
important
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
access
to
their
basic
needs
in
our
city,
and
Mobility
can
be
a
barrier
to
all
of
those
needs
by
demographics.
You
can
see
that
scooter,
Writers,
Do,
skew
younger
18
to
24
years
old
is
the
typical
age
and
racially
it's
used
more
diverse
than
the
standard
Pittsburgh
population,
so
we're
seeing
more
racial
diversity
than
the
overall
general
population
for
our
city.
D
As
director
Lucas
mentioned,
that
Domi
is
constantly
looking
at
the
support,
requests
and
other
incidents
submitted
to
spin
to
evaluate
the
program
in
ways
that
we
can
improve.
So
this
here
is
the
summary
of
support
requests.
These
are
things
like
improperly
parked
scooters,
damaged,
Scooters
or
accidents,
and
these
generally
Peak
during
High
ridership
Seasons
like
the
summer,
but
we've
seen
a
consistent
decline
in
those
sorts
of
requests
over
the
course
of
the
pilot,
and
these
again
are
user
penalties.
D
This
is
looking
at
scooters
that
are
parked
on
sidewalks
or
parked
at
Mobility
hubs.
We
found
about
two-thirds
of
scooters
are
parked
correctly,
upright
and
in
a
legal
parking
space,
and
while
about
a
third
of
scooters,
were
parked
on
the
sidewalk.
Only
three
were
parked
in
such
a
way
that
the
obstructed
clearance
is
those
other
ones
parked
on
the
sidewalk,
are
off
to
the
side
or
at
a
bike.
Rack.
C
C
One
of
them
is
the
introduction
of
scooter
license
plates
so
that
it's
easier
for
people
to
call
in
concerns
about
specific
scooters,
so
that
spin
in
the
city
can
follow
up
better
streamline
coordination
with
3-1-1
until
recently
spin
wasn't
able
to
actually
access
3-1-1
to
close
tickets,
so
they
were
responding
to
complaints,
but
they
weren't
getting
credit
for
responding
and
for
meeting
their
response
requirements.
We
have
since
changed
that
and
then
the
creation
maintenance
of
scooter
parking,
Corrals
and
increased
messaging
to
spin
users
via
their
app.
C
We
have
opportunities
for
even
greater
Improvement
I
suspect
that
we
will
hear
today
that
the
number
one
concerns
about
spin
have
to
do
with
scooters
that
are
impeding
access
on
our
sidewalks,
which
is
probably
the
number
one
issue
with
with
any
with
any.
You
know:
independent
Mobility
device.
There
is
the
potential
to
do
a
sidewalk
detection
pilot
where
we
can
work
using
artificial
intelligence
technology
to
get
cameras.
C
B
Great
well
thanks
for
having
me
today,
my
name
is
Jason
Schaffner
from
spin
scooters
appreciate
everyone's
time.
There's
really
two
primary
topics
that
I'd
like
to
touch
on
today,
and
that
is
writer,
education
and
our
operations
strategy
here
in
Pittsburgh,
real.
B
Sure
so,
as
I
said,
I'd
like
to
touch
on
Rider
Education,
our
operation
strategy
here
in
Pittsburgh,
so
at
a
high
level
how
to
ride
a
scooter
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
know
everything
we
do
is
powered
through
an
app.
You
register
for
an
account
by
downloading
the
spin
app
on
your
phone
and
then
you
add
a
payment
method
if
you're
a
first-time
Rider
if
you've
never
ridden
a
scooter
in
Pittsburgh
before
you
have
to
take
a
short
safety
quiz
and
successfully
pass
that
quiz
before
you're
allowed
to
ride.
B
You
unlock
the
scooter
by
scanning
a
QR
code
on
The
Handlebar,
which
you
can
see
pictured
here
at
the
end
of
your
trip,
when
you're
done,
riding
Riders
are
required
to
submit
a
picture
of
your
parked
scooter
for
riders.
That
may
not
have
a
smartphone.
You
can
unlock
scooters
through
a
text-based
SMS
system
and
I've
also
got
a
pricing
listed
here.
B
It's
a
dollar
to
start
a
trip
plus
39
cents,
a
minute
we
have
our
access
Stones
throughout
the
city
which
director
Lucas
touched
on
their
30
discount
and
we
have
the
even
deeper
discount
through
the
spin
Access
program.
That's
80
percent,
so
touching
on
writer,
education,
I
think,
there's
really
three
prongs.
Whenever
we
think
about
writer,
education,
there's,
education,
up
front,
there's
ongoing
messaging
and
then
there's
Communications
after
the
trip
and
how
we
hold
Riders
accountable
right.
B
So
speaking
to
that
upfront,
education,
as
I
mentioned,
all
Riders
must
take
a
first
ride,
quiz
the
first
time
that
they
try
to
ride
a
scooter
here
in
Pittsburgh.
I
have
some
screenshots
here
of
some
questions
in
that
quiz
and
all
the
questions
need
to
be
successfully
answered
before
the
scooter
will
unlock
or
you
can
ride
the
scooter
and
these
rules
aren't
generic
scooter
rules,
they're
specific
to
Pittsburgh
photos
of
Pittsburgh
right.
So
it's
it's
uniquely
tailored
to
our
regulations.
Here
in
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
speaking
to
ongoing
messaging.
B
We
have
these
Pittsburgh
rules
screens
which
are
presented
before
every
trip,
so
the
first
ride
quiz
is
just
on
your
first
trip
on
a
scooter.
These
rules
are
presented
every
single
trip.
You
take
no
matter
how
many
trips
you've
taken.
The
purpose
of
this
is
just
to
remind
remind
writers
of
of
the
rules
of
the
road
here
in
Pittsburgh
right.
B
In
addition
to
that,
we
also
have
regular
in-app
messaging
that
remind
users
to
ride
responsibly
and
park
responsibly,
which
you
see
an
example
of
here
on
the
right
and,
lastly,
there's
there's
the
accountability
piece
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
require
end
of
trip
photos,
so
after
you're
done
riding
your
scooter
at
the
end
of
your
trip,
you
must
take
a
picture
of
that
parked
scooter.
There's
this
pop-up
message
here
that
reminds
users
of
where
they're
allowed
to
park.
B
That
would
be
in
a
parking
Corral
at
a
Mobility
Hub
next
to
a
bike,
rack
or
otherwise,
legal
on-street
parking
and
these
parking
photos
are
reviewed
by
spin
staff.
So
our
team
does
look
at
these
photos
and
we're
able
to
follow
up
if
there
is
instances
of
improper
parking
and
that's
what
you
see
on
the
right
side
here.
So
if
users
do
Park
incorrectly,
we
issue
warnings
to
those
users.
It's
a
three
strike
system.
B
So
if
somebody
were
to
have
a
second
offense,
it
moves
on
to
fines
and
then
suspending
Riders
accounts
and
four
users
that
have
received
a
warning.
We
see
that
92
percent
of
those
users
do
not
go
on
to
reoffend,
so
they
recognize
that
they
Park
them
properly.
They
learn
from
their
mistakes
and
it's
it's
not
not
repeated
Behavior.
B
Speaking
to
our
operations
strategy,
so
we
work
entirely
with
a
team
of
W-2
employees
that
are
local
to
Pittsburgh.
We
are
staffed,
24
7..
We
have
people
on
the
ground
right
now,
24
hours
a
day
in
peak
season,
we
have
over
40
employees
working
the
streets
of
Pittsburgh
around
the
clock
and
yeah.
They
operate
out
of
our
local
Warehouse
here.
So
what
are
these
people
doing?
B
They're,
primarily
proactively,
correcting
parking
issues,
we're
able
to
see
scooter
locations
in
real
time
on
the
map,
so
we
drive
around,
we
fix
scooters
whenever
we
get
requests
through
3-1-1
or
through
our
internal
customer
support
line.
Our
drivers
are
immediately
dispatched
to
go
respond
to
those
requests,
relocate
the
scooters.
B
It's
touching
on
the
Fleet
Distribution
component.
We
we
take
a
lot
of
strides
to
try
to
keep
our
scooter
Fleet
evenly
distributed
around
the
entire
city
of
Pittsburgh.
This
distribution
is
audited
daily
at
7am
by
Domi.
You
can
see
here
on
this
map
some
different
neighborhoods
outlined.
These
are
our
access
zones,
where
we
have
a
30
discount
on
this
map.
The
lighter
yellow
shades
are
areas
of
higher
ridership
I.
B
Think,
there's
some
trends
that
you
would
expect
to
see
in
any
City
where
denser
urban
areas
such
as
Downtown
Oakland,
see
a
lot
of
ridership,
but
I.
Think
what's
what's
interesting
to
point
out
is
the
the
pockets
of
high
ridership
ship
in
these
access
zones,
such
as
you
know,
Hazelwood,
West,
End
and
so
on,
where
we
have
these
these
areas
outside
of
the
dense
downtown
areas
that
are
high
ridership
because
of
the
cheaper
rates
that
we
have
in
these
areas.
G
So
if
that's
fine
I'll
check
a
couple
of
slides
from
another
presentation
that
I
think
summarize
research
well,
like
you,
have
something
to
look
at
it
for
yeah.
G
So
can
you
see
my
screen
yep
all
right,
so
this
first
slide
shows
the
upper
areas
of
research
that
I've
been
active
in
over
the
couple
of
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
G
So
I've
done
about
four
years
of
research
on
chat
microbility
on
different
modes
such
as
shared
Eastwood,
shared
e-bikes,
but
also
car
show
and
I've,
especially
focused
on
three
areas
of
research.
So
the
first
one
is
the
use
of
shared
micro
Mobility.
So
how
does
how
do
shared
microability
services
differ?
G
How
does
usage
differ
and
how
do
users
choose
between
those
different
micro
Village
options?
The
second
one
is
on
users
of
shared
microbial.
How
do
user
groups
differ
and
are
there
any
Equity
concerns
and
the
third
area
of
research
are
interactions
with
other
modes
so
which
modes
to
share
microbial
Services
substitute
and
what
other
environmental
implications
I've
done.
I've
mostly
focused
my
work
on
Switzerland
and
was
specifically
Europe.
So
this
we
can
discuss
later
how
people
findings
are
on
other
areas.
G
Here
you
see
the
main
three
papers
that
resulted
so
far
out
of
my
work.
They're
all
open
access
available
online.
If
you
want
to
consult
them
later,.
G
So
I'll
start
with
a
brief
overview
of
my
research
on
users
of
sharp
micro
ability.
So
for
this
first
study,
what
we've
done
is
we
sent
invitations
to
participate
in
a
survey-based
study
to
17
000
inhabitants
of
the
city
of
Europe,
so
this
is
quite
a
large
sum
sample.
The
city
of
Zurich
has
around
400
000
inhabitants
and
about
eight
percent
of
those
invited
randomly
invited
people
participated,
so
we
asked
them
a
number
of
questions
on
person-specific,
social,
demographics,
household,
specific
social
demographics
and
then
also
Mobility
focused
questions.
G
So
what
we
did
then,
is
we
compared
the
different
user
groups,
scooters
shared
e-bikes
and
chat
dockless
e-bikes
with
the
latest
Xerox
census,
so
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
mention
the
results
with
regards
to
sharing
scooter
users
and
the
difference
to
the
latest
sensors
in
the
right.
So
here
we
see
that
Doc
Mc
scooter
uses
on
average
younger
33
years
versus
the
general
population.
In
Zurich
of
41
years
there,
on
average,
less
females
are
represented
in
the
user
group
of
Chevy
scooters,
they
are
more
Highly
Educated.
G
G
So
this
is.
These:
are
the
results
with
regards
to
users
and
I'll
continue
with
the
interactions
with
other
notes
and
the
environmental
impacts?
So
for
this
study
we
sent
invitations
to
10
000,
randomly
selected
people
through
the
Continental
statistical
office
and
540
people
participated
in
the
entire
study.
So
what
does
this
mean?
They
participated
in
the
first
survey.
G
Then
they
participated
in
three
months
of
GPS
tracking,
so
we
used
the
app
which
is
displayed
on
the
right
here
to
track
their
activity,
the
app
automatically
records
activities
and
crypts
and
automatically
even
identifies
the
transport
mode
to
this
data
set.
We
then
added
additional
data
sources
that
are
usually
relevant
when
analyzing
more
Choice,
such
as
pin
data
availability
and
weather
data.
So
during
these
three
months
we
collected
over
65
000
trips
from
those
540
individuals.
G
G
So
this
then
gives
us
the
substitution
patterns
for
the
different
transport
modes,
which
I'm
showing
here
so
again.
I'll
just
focus
on
the
right
for
on
esporters,
so
e-scooters
should
be
scooters
in
zero
on
average,
replace
public
transport
in
the
for
the
most
part
of
all
kilometers
driven.
So
this
is
an
important
difference
to
most
survey
LED
studies.
Here
we
compare
substitution
rates
on
a
per
kilometer
basis,
so
not
on
a
trip
basis.
G
Why
the
kilometer
basis?
Because
of
course,
it's
more
much
more
relevant
when
looking
at
CO2
emissions,
how
many
kilometers
of
the
car
trip
are
being
replaced
than
just
a
car
trip
which
can
be
very
short
or
very
long,
replace
public
transport
in
37
of
of
all
the
senses,
the
car
and
21
working
20
and
the
bike
in
14
or
four
cases.
G
So
what
We've
Ended
is?
We
took
the
gross
emissions,
so
these
are
the
emissions.
The
international
transport
Forum
from
the
oecd
has
calculated
for
each
transport
mode,
so
this
assumes
that
walking
emits
zero
grams
CO2
per
kilometer
public
transport
72,
the
car
on
average
135
Etc
and
the
shared
is
good
106
grams
CO2
per
person
kilometer.
G
So
we
take
those
plus
emissions.
We
then
calculate
the
emissions
of
the
substituted
nodes,
so
houses
calculated,
we
add
20
times
0
plus
37
times
72
Etc.
This
results
in
the
emissions
of
the
shared
of
the
substituted
nodes,
62
grams
CO2
per
person
kilometer.
We
then
subtract
that
from
the
emissions
of
the
micro
Mobility
mode
in
the
case
of
Chevy
scooters,
this
is
106
grams,
CO2
per
person
kilometer
and
then,
in
the
end,
getting
that
emission.
G
So
here
we
see
that
share
these
photos
in
Zurich
on
average
in
mid
42
grams
CO2,
perversal
kilometer
more
than
the
transport
modes,
they
replace.
So
this
then
leads
us
to
the
conclusion
that
for
Zurich,
shared
scooters
and
Evac
emit
more
CO2
than
the
transport
modes
they
replace.
G
So
this
suggests
caution
when
using
the
phrase
sharing
is
caring
for
the
environment
and
or
when
admitting
and
Licensing
licensing
shared
micro,
Mobility
providers
and,
on
the
other
hand,
personal
e-bikes,
and
these
scooters
emit
less
CO2
than
the
transfer
boats
they
replace,
which
suggest
public
subsidies
for
personal
e-bikes
and
sales.
So
this
is
just
a
brief
overview
of
my
research
in
in
this
area.
I'm
looking
forward
to
discussing
it.
Maybe
one
last
comment
on
this,
so
This
research
was
done
in
2021.
G
Since
then,
I'm
sure
several
providers
have
improved
their
their
operations
as
lifetime
is
good
lifetime,
so
kilometers
driven
in
a
scooter
life
and
the
operations
such
as
recharging
relocating
Etc,
are
the
most
important
ingredients
to
CO2
emissions
in
Esco
operations.
So
it
remains
to
be
seen
whether
these
values
today
are
more
favorable
or
not.
Thank.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Dr
Rec.
Well,
so
lots
of
numbers
lots
of
numbers
to
to
sift
through
I,
guess,
I,
I,
guess,
I'll,
just
I'll.
Let
members
go
down
we'll
just
go
down
the
line.
Oh
director,
Paul.
I'm!
Sorry,
did
you
no
okay,
so
yeah.
A
J
You
know
we
I
think
we
were
all
here
when
we
voted
to
to
First
approve
the
pilot
and
I
think
a
number
of
us
were
probably
leery
about
the
actions
that
we
were
taking.
You
know
we
sort
of
heard.
You
know
the
sky
will
fall
and
this
is
probably
not
going
to
be
a
good
thing
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
but
I'm
pleasantly
surprised
to
see
over
the
last
two
years
right.
We've.
K
J
Two
years
that
it
really
hasn't
turned
out
kind
of
the
way
that
we
were
told
it
was
going
to
turn
out.
Yes,
do
we
have
some
growing
pains
in
the
beginning?
Certainly
we
did
were.
Was
there
some
behaviors
that
needed
to
be
learned?
J
Absolutely
were
there
people
that
were
misusing
the
platform
absolutely
but
I
well,
not
entirely,
but
broadly
turn
that
over
to
just
sort
of
growing
pains,
I,
actually
and
I'm
a
bit
of
a
dinosaur
I
confess
that
I
am
I'm
actually
kind
of
pleasantly
surprised
that
it
has
kind
of
turned
the
way
that
it
has
turned
now.
Having
said
that,
I
represent
Oakland.
Almost
you
know
a
super
portion
of
Oakland
and
and
the
south
side,
so
I
have
a
very
large
demographic
of
constituency
that
use
the
that
use.
J
J
You
know
in
a
responsible,
Manner
and
don't
leave
them
scattered
throughout
the
the
streets
and
I
personally
have
noticed
that
and
I'm
actually
very
grateful
for
it.
I
really
do
like
the
ideas
of
the
Corrals
that
were
created,
and
we
got
a
little
bit
of
blowback
from
that
in
the
beginning,
you're
taking
parking
away
and
those
kinds
of
things,
but
again
I'm,
pleasantly
surprised
that
they
are
being
used.
One
thing
I
would
say:
director,
though,
is
the
signage,
for
them
has
not
necessarily
been
successful
and
I
get
that
the
signage
was.
J
You
know,
installed
rather
quickly
and
and
probably
wasn't
intended
to
to
last
that
long.
But
if
we're
going
to
commit
to
these,
since
we
I
believe
we're
going
to
commit
to
these
I
think
we
could
do
a
little
bit
better
identification
of
where
the
Corrals
are
to
make
certain
that
we
do
encourage
people
to
use
them,
and
another
thing
I'm
actually
pleasantly
surprised
at
is
I,
don't
see
people
just
throwing
them
in
there.
J
I
actually
have
begun
to
see
people
lining
them
up
in
orderly
fashion
like
as,
if
to
say,
I
have
a
responsibility
here
and
I
may
be
the
person
coming
back
to
use
this
again
and
I
want
to
make
certain
that
it's
you
know
in
a
nice
State.
You
know
for
me
to
come
back
and
use
it.
So
even
I
surprised
myself
that
I
am
as.
J
I
am
pleasantly
surprised
that
it
didn't
turn
out
the
way
many
people
said
that
we
would
have
or
that
it
would
have,
but
with
that
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
Since
I've
made
my
comments
director,
you
talked
about
permitting
within
the
city
that
that
spin
is
permitted
to
use.
Can
you
talk
about
some
of
the
limitations
that
are
contained?
Some
constituency
might
think?
Well,
you
have
a
permit.
I
can
do
this
and
I
can
do
anything
I
want
to.
Well.
That's
not
true.
C
Sure
so
we
in
that
permit
and
Rylan
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
We
have
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
my
slide
on
it.
For
my
reference,
that's
where
we
are
limiting
the
number
of
scooters
that
they're
allowed
to
operate
on
our
streets.
That's
where
we
have
requirements,
I
believe
about
the
distribution
of
those
scooters
to
make
sure
that
they
are
being
deployed
at
the
quantities
that
they
are
required
to
in
those
zones
that
we've
pre-identified
as
a
city
as
being
high
need
locations,
and
so
we
do
have
a
lot
of
teeth
within
that
permit.
C
Domi
issues,
22
000
permits
a
year,
so
we
have
many
folks
that
are
using
our
public
right-of-way
and
that
this
is
the
the
strongest
mechanism
we
have
for
influencing
how
those
folks
use
it.
I
can
get
you
more
information
too,
on
what's
contained
I'm.
J
Struggling
to
find
the
slide
right
now,
that's
okay!
You
take
the
conversation
exactly
where
I
want
to
take
it
I'm,
a
very
you
know.
If
you
talk
to
anybody
that
lives
in
the
south
side,
and
you
ask
them
why
they
live
the
First
Response
you're,
going
to
get
99.9
of
the
time
is
because
I
can
walk
anywhere.
So
I
have
always
been
a
very
big
proponent
of
the
Public's
right
of
way.
J
It's
called
that
for
a
reason
the
public
owns
it
and
you
can
encroach
under
certain
conditions
and
with
certain
permissions
you
can,
but
it
is
owned
by
the
the
public
and
so
protecting
that
and
guarding.
That
has
always
been
very,
very
important
to
me
and
kind
of
taken
some
blowback
over
the
years
for
for
doing
that
and
in
the
beginning,
I
will
confess
yes
to
see.
People
on
sidewalks
was
incredibly
annoying
and
dangerous,
especially
if
someone
has
a
set
of
headphones
on
you're,
not
paying
attention,
not
thinking
about
coming
behind
you.
J
Somebody
comes
with
them
by
you.
I
can
honestly
say:
I
can't
remember
the
last
time.
That's
happened
and
I
mean
months
and
months
and
months
and
months
and
months
and
months
months
and
months
that
I've
seen
anything
along
those
lines.
I
do
get
concerns
from
constituency
about
where
scooters
are
left
came
up
in
Zone
3,
Public,
Safety
Council
meeting
just
last
month.
J
We
had
a
fulsome
discussion
about
it
and,
through
some
research,
I
was
pleasantly
surprised
to
find
that
the
calls
that
come
into
3-1-1,
which
is
the
appropriate
way
to
to
report
that
in
the
311,
have
a
turnaround
time
of
removing
the
scooter
within
one
hour.
That's
the
average,
that's
with
everything
that
we
have
on
our
plates
to
do
on
any
given
day.
J
That's
a
pretty
good
turnaround
time
that
I'm
pleasantly
surprised
to
hear,
and
then
we
also
share
the
the
number
that
is
on
every
one
of
the
scooters
that,
through
the
Zone
3
Public
Safety
Council.
If
you
do
have
a
scooter
that
has
been
misplaced.
This
is
the
number
you
can
call
it'll
immediately
go
into
spin
or
go
into
3-1-1
and
the
turnaround
time
is
an
hour
and
if
it
doesn't
I
want
to
know
I,
you
know
sort
of
our
informal
informal
data
polling
to
see
if
that
actually
is
indeed
the
case.
J
One
other
thing
that
you
brought
up,
which
I
really
thought
was
very
interesting,
is
that
there
there's
a
differentiation
between
the
argument
of
one
that
uses
a
scooter
as
a
means
of
transportation,
because
they
don't
have
an
option
other
than
that
versus
the
one
that
does
have
an
option,
but
actually
chooses
to
use
the
scooter
and
I
thought
that
wasn't
really
interesting,
interesting
Dynamic
that
even
though
one
may
have
other
options
of
transportation
to
choose,
whether
that
be
a
personal
vehicle
or
not
or
public
transit.
J
C
So
I
think
in
our
data
we
said
something
like
35
percent
of
scooter.
Trips
were
replacing
car
trips,
so
that's
almost
twice
what
it
looked
like
Zurich
had
in
their
data
for
the
number
of
car
trips
that
were
being
replaced
by
their
scooter
program.
That
means
those
folks,
those
specific
folks
had
a
chance
to
take
their
car
and
they
would
have
taken
their
car
if
they
did
not
choose
to
take
a
scooter.
That
day.
C
That
means
35
percent
of
those
trips
reduces
the
number
of
cars
on
our
streets,
which
reduces
the
emission
from
those
cars,
reduces
the
potential
for
safety
conflicts
from
those
cars
and
frees
up
parking,
quite
frankly,
parking
for
people,
especially
in
our
congested
areas.
Other
folks
having
a
school
tutor
means
that
they
can
get
where
they
need
to
go.
You
know
fifty
percent
of
spin
survey.
C
Respondents
said
they
don't
have
access
to
a
car,
that's
not
a
luxury
that
they
have
the
option
of
that's
more
than
double
the
rate
of
people
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
that
don't
have
access
to
a
car.
So
what
that
means?
How
I
interpret
that
data
is
that
we
are
overreaching
to
the
people
who
need
the
most.
We
are
actually
our
statistic
on
car
ownership
and
who's
using.
J
From
yeah
there's
not
a
day
that
goes
by
that
I'm
not
asked
councilman.
What
are
you
doing
about
parking
and
my
stock
answer
is
reducing
Vehicles.
It's
really
not
about
adding
spaces.
It's
math!
It's
geography,
there's
only
so
much
room
in
which
we
can
park
cars
right.
So
the
answer
to
parking
is
not
per
se
building
more
parking,
but
rather
reducing
vehicles,
and
and
what
are
the
opportunities
that
we
have
to
reduce
Vehicles
right?
That,
and
what
can
we
do
and
is
that
bicycle?
Is
that
scooter
yeah?
J
Did
it
take
me
some
time
to
come
around
to
that
kind
of
thinking?
Of
course
it
did.
You
know,
there's
a
learning
curve
to
it,
but
I
see
the
wisdom
in
it
and
and
the
benefit
to
it,
and
it's
it's
about
I.
Think
I,
read
in
in
one
of
the
newspapers,
an
argument
against
too
many
choices
that
we
shouldn't
have
this
many
choices
and
I
thought
that
was
just
such
an
odd
statement
to
make
that
really
we
should
be
about
providing
as
many
choices
as
as
we
possibly
can.
I.
J
Don't
pretend
for
a
minute
that
you're
ever
going
to
see
me
on
a
scooter
you
and
if
you
do
take
a
picture,
you
know
that's
not
going
to
happen.
It's
not
my
demographic,
but
at
the
same
time
I'm
sure,
there's
not
a
member
of
counsel.
That
has
not
heard
the
argument.
What
are
we
doing
to
keep
young
people
in
the
city?
This
is
clearly
a
demographic
for
a
younger.
What
did
you
say
under
20.
J
Primarily,
that
is,
is
going
to
use
this
so
in
my
authority,
as
as
a
member
of
council
sitting
here
to
to
to
make
the
argument
for
providing
for
reasons
why
young
people
choose
to
live
in
metropolitan
areas.
This
certainly
is
one
of
them.
It's
not
for
me.
I
get
that
I
understand
that,
but
it
is
for
a
different
population
in
a
different
demographic
that
we
want
to
attract.
J
J
I
was
going
to
say
if
you
had
pulled
that
off,
I
I
was
going
to
be
really
surprised,
but
last
but
not
least,
I
just
lost
my
train
of
thought.
There
was
one
more
thing:
I
really
wanted
to
say
about
them,
but
this
thank
the
councilwoman
for
bringing
this
up.
It's.
K
J
A
overdue
conversation
we
have
not
Revisited
this,
since
we
had
agreed
to
the
platform
to
begin
with
and
I
believe
council
is
going
to
be
taking
a
role
into
continuing
the
contract
for
a
vote
coming
up
very
soon.
So
it's
a
timely
conversation
I
was
really
happy
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
thank
the
councilwoman
for
bringing
it
up,
and
for
you
being
here
and
and
I
look
forward
to
what
other
members
have
to
say.
Did
you
have
something
else
director
you
looked
like
you're.
A
Also
wanted
to
mention
that
council
president
Smith
is
on
the
zoom
and
councilman
gross
yeah.
F
L
L
Okay
I'll
tell
you
I've
mixed
reactions
about
the
scooters
myself,
but
I
just
want
to
go
through
a
few
things,
questions
I,
guess
to
start
with.
Originally
the
legislation
called
for
a
contract
and
as
I
understand
it,
there
is
no
contract
between
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
spin.
It's
a
work.
C
So
a
contract,
typically,
we
pay
for
a
service
and
we
procure
it
through
those
mechanisms,
but
since
we're
not
paying
for
spin
to
operate
here,
the
model
that
was
selected
was
one
that
followed
the
pre-existing
models
like
Zipcar
car
share.
At
the
time
Scooby
moped
share
was
in
the
city
and
did
we
have
one
other
service,
healthy
ride
and
now
Pogo
Bike
Share?
So
we
were
following
those
those
parallel
models.
Sure.
L
E
Can
speak
to
that
procedurally
not
to
but
but
I
I
agree
with
what
director
Lucas
has
said
when
we
issue
permits
to
operate,
those
permits
to
operate
require
adherence
to
basic
operating
standards
and
mechanisms
for
ensuring
adherence
to
those
procedures.
That's
fundamentally
different
from
a
contract
which
we
typically
enter
into
when
funds
or
other
assets
or
liabilities
are,
are
being
exchanged,
and
that's
not
the
case
in
this
engagement,
the
city
doesn't
fund
spin
or
its
operations.
Fin
spin
does
not
provide
funding
to
the
city
as
a
result
of
its
operations.
E
They
have
a
permit
to
operate
within
City
Limits
and
on
our
streets.
So
so
the
the
structure
and
form
of
their
permit
is
consistent
with
other
right-of-way
permits
that
we
issue,
as
director
Lucas
has
said
to
other
operators
and
also
other
types
of
folks
who
might
occupy
a
portion
of
the
right-of-way,
so
that
that.
B
I,
don't
know
that
I
could
speak
to
that
per
se,
but
this
is
an
industry
where
breaking
even
is
a
goal.
L
L
C
Correct,
just
like
you
know,
they
pay
a
permit
fee,
just
like
pwsa
pays
a
permit
fee,
and
that
goes
towards
money
to
the
city
that
then
in
turn
goes
towards
Staffing
for
Domi,
so
I
can
say
that
we
are
not
performing
daily
audits.
We
are
doing
seasonal.
I
would
say,
audits
to
make
sure
that
we
are
getting
an
eye
on
the
street
and
we're
using
really
low
touch
methods
to
monitor,
for
example,
that
daily
check-in
on
a
website.
C
Nobody
has
to
leave
their
office
for
that,
so
I
would
say
it's
less
than
half
of
a
full-time
employee.
That
is,
that
is
touching
the
program
and
probably
even
less
than
that.
L
C
L
And
that's
all
the
work
we
have
involved.
Yes,
here's
a
question:
if
somebody
gets
on
a
scooter
starts
down
the
road,
we
have
a
big
bottle
person.
Does
a
header
first
of
all,
they're
not
required
to
wear
a
helmet,
correct,
correct,
okay,
they
do
head
over
heels,
crack
their
head
open
and
die
who's
being
sued.
C
L
N
B
As
director
Lucas
said,
though,
we
do
have
insurance
policy
that
you
know
covers
things
like
this,
so.
O
E
It
comes
out
if
I
may
sure
our
liability
risk
in
that
situation
will
be
identical
to
whether
they
own
the
scooter
themselves
or
they
were
riding
a
bicycle.
They
own
themselves,
it's
not
unique
it.
We
face
it
as
a
city,
as
someone
who
owns
streets
paved
streets
in
those
streets
occasionally
have
potholes
in
them.
So
I'm
not
discounting
the
risk
that
you're
describing
I'm,
simply
saying
it
would
be
present,
irrespective
of
who
owned
the
vehicle
they
were
on
right.
It
would
be,
it
would
be
the
same
across
those
those.
L
Cases
right
and
luckily,
we
haven't
had
any
major
accidents.
I'm
surprised
about
that.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
I
just
felt
like
somebody's
going
to
be
killed
honestly
and
some
of
my
streets
at
least
I,
don't
I'm
speaking
for
the
other
districts,
but
we
have
windy
curvy.
You
know
blind
roads,
but
so
not
nonetheless,
there's
a
Financial
Risk
to
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
that
we
can
be
sued,
whether
it
you
know
we
don't.
You
can't
eliminate
that.
That's.
E
Yes,
but
that's
the
risk
of
owning
roads,
not
the
risk
of
of
who's
using
them
right
I
mean
we.
We
we
do.
You
are
correct
to
say
that
the
city
has
some
liability
risk
from
managing
the
right-of-way
and
and
the
conditions
are
the
right-of-way,
but
that's
not
directly
a
driver
of
a
personal
vehicle
that
is
damaged
hitting
that
same
pothole.
We
incur
the
same
relative
liability.
L
So
I
always
take
your
point,
but
yeah
we're
still
at
risk.
You
know
I
get
it.
We
want
to
make.
You
know
Transportation
available
in
all
shapes
and
forms,
and
you
know
if
they're
using
it
to
get
to
work
and
I.
Read
the
article
yesterday
I
think
it
was
in
the
Trib.
It
was
very
well
done
and
it's
kind
of
laid
out
who
uses
it
and
and
what
form
and
fashion.
L
But
let
me
ask
you
this,
so
it
cost
you
a
dollar
just
just
before
you
get
on
it
and
39
cents,
a
minute,
so
average
I'd
say
a
mile
and
a
half.
How
many
minutes
does
it
typically
take
for
a
scooter
to
go
a
mile
and
a
half.
Q
B
L
P
L
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
a
what
a
PRT
charges
for
you
know
my
ride,
but
so
you're
talking
the
dollar
you're
talking,
probably
four
dollars,
or
so.
If
you're
going
a
mile
a
mile
and
a
half
yeah
which
it's
not
cheap,
I
mean
that's,
not
I,
always
felt
like
my
initial
thought
was:
oh,
this
is
going
to
be
a
cheap,
affordable
way
for
transportation,
but
when
you're
looking
at
it,
I
mean
39
cents
a
minute,
especially
if
from
my
district
you
can't
take
it
downtown.
L
C
The
access
zones
that
we've
identified
so
they're
Citywide
on
I,
don't
have
numbers
on
the
pages,
but
you
can
see
that
we've
got
them
in
all
quadrants
of
the
city
and
they
were
identified.
Looking
at
Pittsburgh
Regional
transits
Equity
index,
which
looks
at
rates
of
car
ownership,
access
to
Transit
income
and
other
demographic
variables,
so
that
we
could
identify
communities
that
experienced
economic
and
Mobility
hardship
can.
C
L
I'll,
just
tell
you
a
quick
little
story:
I
have
a
place
in
Mount
Washington,
coming
home
late
night,
four
or
five
people
Milling
around
outside
the
house,
quiet
little
Street
and
I,
see
like
there's
scooters
there,
five
or
six
of
them
taking
up
about
three
parking
spots,
limited
parking
on
this
street.
This
is
2
30.
In
the
morning
there
were
no
question.
There
were
joyriding,
you
know
so
I
stopped
them.
You
know,
just
out
of
curiosity.
I
said:
hey.
I
said
what
are
you?
Where
are
you?
L
Where
are
you
from
and
they
went
on
to
tell
us
hey:
where
did
we
did?
We
come
from
I?
Think
Murrysville
and
I
was
like.
Is
that
right?
I
said
you
came
here
to
ride
the
scooters
and
they
said
yes,
they
love
coming
here
right
in
the
scooter.
So
it
is
a
part
of
a
Joyride
and
I.
Don't
begrudge
anybody
that
I
mean
if
I
rode
one
it
would
be
for
Joy
not
to
get
back
and
forth.
However,
they
were
in
four
different
cars.
L
K
L
Of
those
parking
spots
and
the
neighbors
were
outraged
and
I
said:
cow
Council
want
to
kill
Smith
it's
our
district,
but
you
know
I
wouldn't
do
that
to
her.
So
do
you
have
a
data
as
to
how
many
people
use
it
for
Joy
rights,
I
mean
you
could
almost
look
at
the
times.
I
would
think
right
as
to
when
the
ridership
is.
C
So
we
have
data,
and
there
is
more
of
this
data,
but
I
just
have
Snippets
of
it
here
that
44
of
trips
are
for
commuting.
So
the
rest
of
the
trips
are
for
not
commuting,
as
you
mentioned,
there's
a
cost
associated
with
riding
scooters
so
to
the
extent
that
people
are
going
on
extensive
rides
and
not
going
to
get
somewhere.
I
suspect-
that's
not
happening
too
too
frequently,
because
you
you
pay
for
the
time
that
you're
on
them.
R
L
And
you
know
I'll
I'll
sum
it
up
like
this
I
think
they're
great,
you
know
especially
I
believe
in
councilman,
krauss's
District,
maybe
councilwoman
strasberger
said
students
I,
think
the
students
use
them.
We
get
back
and
forth.
You
kind
of
have
the
right.
They
have
bike
Lanes
there
we're
permitted
to
use
these
in
the
bike.
Lanes
correct
it's
where
they
should
be
using
them.
Is
that
right,
okay,
I,
don't
have
a
bike
lane
in
my
entire
District,
my
entire
District
believe
it
or
not
my
District's,
not
a
fan
of
the
scooters.
L
I
will
tell
you
simply
because
the
main
complaints
are
on
sidewalks.
Somebody
comes
by
in
a
wheelchair,
and
now
he
or
she
has
to
make
a
call
and
try
to
have
a
thing
removed
or
worse.
You
have
to
have
to
go
into
the
street
now
and
get
around
the
scooter.
Joyriding
people
come
in
late
night.
For
those
reasons,
I
do
believe.
They're
used
in
my
district
for
to
get
to
the
transportation
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
I
personally
would
like
to
see
in
my
district
I'm
stored
at
the
local
parks.
L
They
keep
them
off
the
streets.
We
have
Parks
all
over
my
district
small
parks
and
it's
usually
a
short
walk
for
them
to
get
to
that
Park
and
then
go
to
you
know
whether
it's
the
Edgebrook
station
or
a
station
up
in
beach
view
I.
Think
that's
I,
don't
know!
If
you
have
this
data,
but
I'd
say
90
of
the
people
who
use
it
other
than
joyriding
use
it
to
get
to
Transportation.
They
certainly
don't
come
downtown.
L
They
can't
it's
just
impossible
and
as
far
as
work
locations,
Go
I
mean
very
few
people
living
in
my
district
work
on
the
other
side
of
the
district
and
would
take
a
scooter
to
work
so
I
think
they're,
really
great
in
certain
districts,
I
think
they're
great
for
a
certain
demographic
I.
Think
in
my
district
I
I
would
really
prefer
to
see
them
consolidated.
L
K
L
The
bus
stop
on
her
way
home
every
day
she
gets
a
ride
into.
Work,
gets
dropped
off
on
the
bus,
but
not
even
half
a
mile
away
from
her
home,
and
then
she
takes
the
scooter
to
her
house.
But
what
happens
there
and
what
happened
there,
and
this
has
been
repeatedly
I've
reported
it.
She
takes
a
scooter
home
every
day
and
then
she
gets
a
ride
in
the
morning
and
she
takes
another.
So
five
or
six
accumulate
on
this
one
block
and
I
get
called
saying:
how
can
all
these
scooters?
L
C
So
the
location
of
scooters,
though,
is
actively
monitored
in
our
app
that
we
have
access
to
our
web
portal.
That
gets
live
stream
data
about
the
location
of
every
single
scooter
at
any
moment,
and
then
spin
is
also
actively
monitoring
because
they
need
to
make
sure
that
their
scooters
are
distributed.
You
know
they
need
to
make
sure
if
there's
too
many
in
one
location,
that
means
there's
probably
not
enough
in
another
location.
K
B
Yeah
I'll
just
add
to
that
that
an
aspect
of
our
permit
is
that
it's
quite
an
extensive
permit,
but
one
aspect
of
that
is
that
scooters
can't
sit
in
the
same
location
for
more
than
five
days,
so
we
have
automation,
set
up
on
the
back
end
to
trigger
and
flag
those
vehicles
to
us.
B
L
Q
L
L
B
So
they
they
have
GPS,
you
know
if
something
is
on
the
street
or
you
know
right
off.
The
street
sometimes
can
be
hard
to
tell.
But,
like
you
mentioned,
we've
got
a
great
team
here,
we're
on
the
streets,
24
7..
These
are
pittsburghers.
These
are
people
that
live
in
these
neighborhoods
right,
so
whenever
they
see
something
they
they
hop
right
to
it
and
fix
it
right.
L
I
will
back
you
up
on
that
they've
been
polite,
they've
been
nice
and
they've
been
prompt
and
been
responding.
My
final
thing
is
this
I'll
say
because
we
do
have
a
liability.
We
do
I
mean
anytime.
We
were
riding
on
our
street.
That
puts
us
at
risk.
I
have
used
many
of
my
hours
in
Council
District,
just
responding
to
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
them
moved
where
to
get
a
move
to
what's
the
regulations
behind
them,
that's
hours,
taxpayer
dollars
are
paying
me
to
be
there.
L
Jason
I
hope
you
can
become
profitable,
I
do
and
I
hope.
When
you're
profitable
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
we
can
go
into
contract
and
reap
I'm,
not
looking
to
make
money
I'm
just
looking
to
cover
the
cost
that
I
put
into
it.
The
domey
puts
into
it
or
whomever
I
didn't
realize
that
you
weren't,
profitable
and
I
start
thinking.
What's
what's
it
going
to
take
to
be
profitable
other
than
people
riding
them
more?
L
L
I
would
love
to
see
how
many
I
have
in
the
fourth
district
is
to
compare
the
crisis.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
making
an
argument
for
more
by
any
means
at
this
point,
but
just.
C
There's
survey
data
that
may
not
get
down
to
that
level
of
detail.
It's
for
the
whole
system,
but
we
do
there's
trip
information.
So
we
know
where
the
trip
patterns
are
all
over
the
city
and
that
and
that
user
case
you
described
of
someone
taking
it
now
you
think
90
of
your
residents
are
taking
it
to
Transit.
That's
absolutely
what
micro
Mobility
is
for
it's
for
that.
First
bio,
Last,
Mile
Challenge,
where
people
are
wanting
to
use
Transit,
but
they
might
just
not
be
close
enough
to
comfortably
walk
there.
L
L
Of
scooters
that
go
in
my
district
or
you
know
how
they're
stored
and
how
they're
serviced
versus
You
Know
A
District
that
I
feel
I
really
do
feel
like
Oakland,
and
you
know
these
areas
where
there's
students
that
they
probably
use
them
a
great
deal,
I
think
they're
a
great
benefit.
So,
okay,
that's
it
from
me.
I
I,
appreciate
you
being
here
thanks
for
your
time.
T
Thank
you,
councilwoman,
thanks
to
everyone
for
being
here,
we're
gonna
have
to
get
you
a
bike
lane.
K
T
T
T
It
all
right
so
I
want
to
start
from
the
beginning
from
where
I
remember
in
my
head
there
was
state
law
that
gave
us
some
privilege
to
do
this.
Yes
right,
yes,
did
you
already
go
with
that.
C
Oh
I,
don't
think
I
did.
T
Well,
maybe
I'll
just
say
it
real,
quick,
maybe
I'll
get
it
right,
so
some
legislators
champion
at
the
state
because
to
allow
scooters
on
the
road,
because
currently
scooters
aren't
allowed
on
our
road
or
sidewalk
right,
correct.
K
T
E
It
seems
likely,
at
the
state
level
that
scooters
as
an
authorized
mode
of
transportation
will
be
authorized
Statewide
later
this
year.
Okay,
they
are
learning
from
our
pilots
who
are
in
communication
with
them,
but
but
I
would
I
would
characterize
the
likelihood
that
it
will
happen
this
having
more
or
less
nothing
to
do
with
with
us
specifically
other
than
what
was
observed
from
that
pilot.
Okay,.
T
All
right
so
got
that
correct
and
then
and
then
this
permit
is,
for
how
long
is
it
an
annual
permit.
E
Assuming
that
they
were
authorized
as
a
legal
vehicle
on
the
streets
by
the
Commonwealth
and
then
our
permit
were
to
expire,
we
would
need
a
new.
It
would
require
a
new
permit.
I
am
not
sure
off
the
top
of
my
head,
whether
the
legislation
that
that
authorized,
the
permitting
structure
would
require
reauthorization
at
that
time.
I
I
suspect
that
it
would
because
it
would
have
been
tied
to
the
pilot
okay.
T
All
right,
then,
I
just
want
to
pick
through
some
of
the
some
of
the
data
here.
So
how
do
you
calculate
commuting?
It
says:
44,
we're
commuting,
I,
see
I'm
District
one's
a
hot
spot,
especially
with
the
new
District
coming
into
the
strip
in
downtown
and
I
was
curious,
like
how
do
you
calculate
commuting.
C
T
And
trips,
less
than
a
mile,
and
whenever
because
I
wanted
to
ask
the
Dr
Rick
about
some
of
his
data
and
just
to
compare
our
data.
So
when
we
say
estimated
reduction
of
100
000
tons
of
CO2
emissions,
that
means
that
we're
not
calculating
the
emissions
that
are
happening
somewhere
else
where
the
electricity
is
being
made.
T
And
then
this
program,
that
is,
eighty
percent
reduction
in
in
costs
to
the
low-income
residents,
I,
don't
know
the
page
up.
That's
what
I
remember.
Yes,
how
does
one
sign
up
for
that.
B
Right,
so,
if,
if
you
otherwise
qualify
for
some
other
existing
government
benefit,
you
can
sign
up
on
our
website,
call
our
customer
support
line
or
we
can
do
tabling
events
around
town
farmers
markets.
Things
like
that.
We
sign
people
up
there,
so
what
that
equates
to
is
50
cents
to
start
and
seven
cents
a
minute.
That's
a
20-minute
trip
for
less
than
two
bucks.
T
T
All
right,
so
you
went
over,
the
I
was
interested
in
the
the
table
you
had
about
the
emissions
and
I
was
curious
to
know
a
little
more
about
that.
So
I
assume
you're.
You
know
you're
calculating
all
those
emissions
based
off
of
you
know
where
electricity
will
come
from
that's
generating
CO2
emissions.
G
So
on
the
life
cycle,
assessments
from
the
international
transport
firm,
they
take
into
account
four
factors
to
calculate
the
emissions.
First,
the
electricity
consumption,
as
you
said,
I'm,
taking
into
account
I,
think
the
average
energetics
in
the
country.
Second,
the
vehicle
manufacturing,
divided
by
the
total
number
of
kilometers,
driven
with
that
scooter
during
the
entire
lifetime,
so
that
infrastructure,
wear
and
tear
and
then
fourth
the
operational
services.
This
typically
includes
rebalancing,
recharging,
Etc,
so
trips
undertaken
often
with
large
vehicles
to
do
this
to
do
this
operation
services.
T
So
at
the
city,
I
believe
I've
seen
before
and
I
feel
like.
This
is
I'm
just
like
trying
to
rehash
my
memory
here
continuously
through
this
questioning,
so
bear
with
me.
I
think
there
is
some
sort
of
partnership
that
we
have
with
Duquesne
Light
like
are
we
buying
electricity
from
a
certain
Source.
E
I
can
answer
that
one,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
answer
this
question,
so
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
through
a
Consortium
that
we're
a
member
of
that
includes
other
major
institutions
in
the
region,
is
either
buying
our
our
electricity
from
renewable
sources
or
where
we're
buying
them
from
non-renewable
sources,
also
purchasing
credits
to
offset
the
carbon
output
of
those
sources.
So
we,
our
electric
consumption,
is,
is
net
carbon
neutral,
but
that
that
applies
to
the
city
proper,
the
institution,
this
building,
our
rec
centers
things
like
that.
E
T
Mr
Schaffner
Mr
Santa,
that's
fine
yeah!
Where
do
you
purchase
your
your
electricity.
B
Provide
that
not
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I
can't
answer.
Okay,.
E
Well,
that'd
be
interesting
though
I'm
sorry
I
do
have.
I
do
have
another
Insight
on
that,
not
not
their
purchasing,
but
it's
generally
accepted
within.
E
You
know,
folks,
who
are
focused
on
sustainability
practices
that
even
where
the
point
source
generation
of
electricity
is
currently
using
a
fossil
fuel.
Moving
Systems,
like
these
systems
or
like
your
home,.
E
It
is,
and
will
be
easier
to
eventually
convert
that
centralized
point
of
generation
to
a
renewable
source
than
it
will
be
to
make
your
gas
stove
run
on
electricity
because
it
can't
right
so
the
electrification
of
end
uses
has
value
for
the
environment,
even
if
we're
not
yet
quite
there
on
some
of
the
generation
sources
of
the
chain.
So
so
there's
environmental,
not
I,
see.
E
T
All
right
thanks,
the
other
topic
I
want
to
go
towards
was
where
you
know.
The
biggest
complaint
is
like
the
scooter
is
blocking
the
sidewalk,
so
I
live
at
the
top
of
a
hill
I
do
see
a
scooter
on
the
sidewalk
that
you
know
is,
you
know,
would
be
the
route
to
go
like
the
best
route
to
go
up
the
hill
on
the
sidewalk.
Sometimes
it's
blocking
the
sidewalk.
T
Sometimes
it's
not
my
hunch
is
maybe
someone
just
pushes
it
over
at
some
point,
because
a
lot
of
people
walk
down
that
you
know
something,
but
what
I
want
to
know
is.
Is
there
any
data
that
you
have
on
where
that,
where
they
are
blocking
us
out
like?
T
Are
there
repeat
offenders
like
areas
that
typically,
it
continually
happens,
for
instance
like
on
a
hillside,
because
I
know
you
know
currently
I'm
over
the
weight
limit
to
go
up
the
hill
all
the
way
without
having
like
you
know,
stop
it
like
when
I
did
use
it
one
time
I
was
like,
could
I
take
this
home?
You
know,
could
I
take
this
to
the
street
that
I
live
on
and
I
I
couldn't
so
I
was
like
well,
I
guess
I
have
to
place
this
in
the
middle
of
nowhere.
T
You
know
it
wasn't
like
a
an
urban
area.
Well,
I
live
in
urban
area,
but
you
could
get
it
like.
I
wasn't
downtown,
it
wasn't
the
strip
like
it
wasn't
like
where
one
of
those
hubs
were
so
just
curious.
Like
do
you
have
data
on
where
people
were
dumping
them
when
they
can't
make
it
all
the
way
up
the
hill
like?
Is
that
a
is
that
a
common
cause
yeah.
B
We
have
some
limited
data,
that's
largely
based
off
of
reports
that
we
get,
but
this
is
something
that
we
hope
to
achieve
a
more
granular
view
on
as
part
of
this
AI
sidewalk
detection
pilot
that
director
Lucas
alluded
to
earlier.
Part
of
that
is
just
just
a
lot
of
data
collection
and
being
able
to
see
where
the
scooters
are
ending
up
on
sidewalks,
where
they're
being
ridden
on
sidewalks
and
I.
Think
that
will
really
help
us
to
pinpoint
the
problem
areas
like
like
you're,
alluding
to
and
try
to
tackle
those
operationally.
T
C
I
can
speak
to
that
as
the
sort
of
regulating
Authority
overseeing
Spin
and
putting
the
requirements
on
them
for
how
they
they
operate
their
program.
So
I
would
say
when
we
have
an
idea
of
where
there
are
more
parking
violations.
We
can
Implement
more
of
those
Corrals
and
charging
stations
so
that
there
are
more
dedicated,
easily
identifiable
places
for
people
to
park
in
certain
parts
of
our
city,
for
example,
downtown.
B
A
A
A
I
guess
I
should
have
allotted
a
longer
time
for
this,
but
I
I
appreciate
everyone
here
being
able
to
hear
this
and
I
hope
that
you
know
and
apologies
if
anybody
can't
make
it
or
has
to
leave
for
for
whatever
reason,
but
you
can
submit
written
comment,
but
I
I
do
appreciate
everyone
patiently,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
have
both
right.
So
at
any
rate,
yeah.
R
Thank
you,
I'll
work
to
be
brief,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I'll
jump
right
in
in
the
in
the
interest
of
time.
Well,
first
I'll
just
proceed
that
by
saying
I
never
want
to
limit
the
number
of
types
of
options
that
we
have
Transit
options
that
we
have
that
you
know.
R
I
do
see
an
issue
with
the
potential
of
this
state
law,
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
of
many
different
types
of
scooter
companies
coming
to
town
I
know
that
was
initially
a
concern
and
we've
been
able
to
get
beyond
that
for
this
I
don't
know
if
that
remains
a
concern.
If
state
law
goes
into
effect,
allowing
scooters
on
every
street
is
that
the
case
or
is
that
do.
C
C
You're
right,
I
agree
flooding
the
market
that,
speaking
from
personal
experience,
managing
programs
like
this
in
other
cities,
where
there
were
multiple
vendors
that
having
one
vendor
can
be
very
beneficial
not
only
for
the
The
Entity
providing
providing
oversight,
but
also
for
the
user
to
not
have
to
have
five
different
apps
to
try
to
get
on
one
type
of
device.
So
we
don't
know
what
that
final
State
legislation
will
or
will
not
allow.
So
there's
definitely
always
a
risk
for
something
like
that.
I.
E
Think
I
think
that's
the
value
of
us
having
a
permitting
Pro
structuring
this
as
a
permitting
process.
That's
not
to
say
director
Lucas
is
correct.
State,
we
don't
know
whether
state
law
would
say
you
can
have
one
or
you
must
have
multiple
or
you
what
that,
where
that
line
might
be
drawn,
but
structuring
it
through
a
permits
means
that,
whether
it's
one
or
several
providers
that
stay
authorizes,
we
can
provide
consistent
requirements
and
oversight
to
whomever
is
operating.
E
Whoever
is
eligible
for
a
permit,
but
as
compared
to
sort
of
a
completely
open
process
without
permit
requirements,
which
probably
invites
the
worst
case
scenario
you're.
Thinking
about
the
fact
that
we've
pursued
this
as
a
permit
that
allows
us
to
have
a
productive
working
relationship
with
the
provider
is
valuable.
R
So
that
said,
you
know
I
think
if
they're,
if,
if
there
were
multiple
options
of
different
modes
of
Transit-
and
there
was
no
friction,
there
was
no
issue
with
anyone.
You
know
population.
R
We
might
not
be
here
today
right
so
there's.
Clearly
what
I
don't
love
to
see
is
that
there's
it
causes
tremendous
challenges
for
for
certain
people,
for
certain
people
who
move
throughout
the
city,
and
so
when
we're
talking
about
parking
and
we're
talking
about,
you
know
parking
violations
in
particular
on
sidewalks
right
if
you're
traveling
by
wheelchair
or
if
you
are
traveling
with
a
visual
impairment-
and
you
know
you're
just
not
able
to
it's
just
really
impacting
your
life
in
a
significant
way
to
me.
R
That's
you
know
that
almost
counts
for
more
than
just
a
parking
violation.
That's
that's
really
impacting
someone's
life
in
a
in
a
tremendous
way,
and
so
I
look
at
the
numbers.
I.
Look
at
the
statistics
around
that
and
I
think
it
looks
pretty
good
I,
also
just
from
the
personal
experience.
I
suspect
that
not
everyone
is
reporting,
and
so
we're
not
capturing
the
number
that
are
blocking
the
sidewalk
that
is
actually
present
and
I
don't
want
to
again
I
don't
want
to
I'm,
not
like
everyone
else.
R
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
stop
this
program,
but
I
do
want
to
figure
out
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
proactively
enforce
so
that
we're
improving.
That
is
it
and
you
know,
I,
think
this.
This
sidewalk
enforcement
pilot
is
promising,
and
is
there
also
a
low-tech
way
that
we
can
improve?
Is
it
partnering
with
our
new
downtown
ambassadors?
Is
it
partnering
with
Pitts
new
student
Oakland
ambassadors?
R
Is
it
partnering
with
you
know,
University
Public,
Safety
I
also
hear
that
like
riding
on
sidewalks
through
campuses
is
a
TR
is
a
problem
and
that's
you
know
making
students
feel
unsafe
as
they're
walking
through
campuses.
R
What
more
can
we
do?
That's
low
Tech
that
doesn't
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
over
penalize
over
police,
of
course,
but
utilizing
the
people
who
are
eyes
on
the
street
anyway.
R
Empowering
other
people
in
business
districts
or
in
places
where
you
know
ridership
is,
is
higher,
like
the
district
I
represent
too
yeah
to
pick
up,
you
know,
even
if
it's
going
to
beep,
to
pick
up
that
scooter
off
the
sidewalk
and
move
it
to
the
street
or
whatever
it
might
be
just
so,
even
if
we're
not
like
not,
everyone
is
going
to
stop
and
report
it.
The
reporting's
easy
and
that
they're
just
getting
moved
off
the
sidewalk
right,
because
that's
the
goal
for
everybody.
C
You're
right
so
in
the
perfect,
in
the
perfect
sort
of
balanced
scenario,
people
would
have
really
great
places
to
ride
so
great
infrastructure
in
the
roadway
that
they
feel
safe
using
and
there
would
be
ample
dedicated
parking
spaces
that
are
easily
identified
so
that
people
are
using
them
and
that
they're
in
the
right
locations
where
people
need
them.
C
I
am
confident
that,
as
the
program
continues
to
involve
evolve
and
as
our
Department's
work
continues
to
expand,
and
we
have
our
complete
streets
projects
that
we
will
be
addressing
a
lot
of
those
issues
not
by
dedicating
resources
into
this
program,
but
just
by
doing
the
work
that
we
are
doing
to
make
our
streets
safer
for
people
on
Wheels
I.
Think
that's
a
great
idea
about
partnering,
with
the
with
these
ambassadors
for
specific
communities,
because
you're
right
places
that
have
the
highest
and
most
densest
densest
populations.
Therefore
more
scooter
trips.
R
A
So
I
am
going
to
raise
this
so
just
quickly,
so
we
we
do
need
to
this
has
gone
longer
than
I
anticipated,
so
we'll
need
to
recess.
A
Yeah,
but
just
quickly
I
do
want
to
say,
because
I
I
want
to
come
back
to
this
so
because
I
obviously
have
lots.
But
but
one
thing
just
in
general,
just
in
terms
of
the
numbers
there
was
a
new
study
released.
The
numbers
are
drastically
different
between
the
very
recent
study
and
the
study
that
was
released.
A
But
what
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
when
you
base
so
Adobe
as
the
as
the
auditor
of
this
program
right
when
we
do
reports
about
a
program-
and
we
use
surveys
by
the
people
that
use
that
program
as
the
basis
for
our
report
on
the
program,
it's
it's
problematic
right.
It's
sort
of,
like
you
know,
80
of
dog
lovers,
love
dog.
A
You
know
think
dogs
are
great,
but
if
you
don't
ask
the
cat
lovers,
Etc
yeah
I
understand
so
at
any
rate,
so
I
will
recess
and
we
will
and
I
I
very
much
have
since,
since
the
the
reports
include,
you
know,
are
really
focused
on
the
spin
users
and
did
not
actually
seem
like
they
surveyed
anybody
other
than
spin
users.
A
I
very
much
hope
that
you
all
will
stay
for
the
public
hearing
to
hear
because
we've
already
gotten
many
many
comments
in
and
obviously
there's
lots
of
folks
here
that
would
like
to
speak
so
I'm
going
to
recess.
Thank.
C
Q
J
A
Foreign
welcome
to
Pittsburgh
City
council's
public
hearing
for
Wednesday
April
12
2023..
We
are
here
to
hear
from
the
public
about
the
spin
scooter
pilot,
oh
I'm,
sorry!
So
will
the
clerk?
Please
read
the
read
the
subject
of
the
hearing.
Today's.
A
No
okay,
great
all
right
so
we'll
now
move
on
to
testimony
from
registered
speakers
once
you're
called
upon.
Please
give
your
full
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
public
record.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes
to
address
Council.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
speak
directly
to
Pittsburgh
Council,
about
the
issue
at
hand
and
a
time
for
Council
to
listen.
Therefore,
Council
will
not
be
responding
to
individual
comments.
F
F
A
V
V
We
believe
that
Mobility
is
a
right,
not
a
privilege,
and
that
our
city
should
be
acting
on
behalf
of
communities,
not
companies
and
our
Collective
needs
for
clean
air
for
transportation
and
Safe
Streets.
What
does
success?
Look
like
for
the
city
for
the
scooter
pilot
and
how
is
it
measured?
What
does
failure
look
like
and
what
happens
when
harms
outweigh
the
good?
V
If
the
goal
of
this
pilot
is
to
reduce
Transportation
emissions,
then
the
city
should
rigorously
assess
whether
that
goal
is
in
fact
met
when
twice
as
many
lower
emissions
trips
of
walking
biking
Transit.
That
67
percent
of
rides
are
being
replaced
by
scooters
over
car
trips,
which
account
for
33
percent
of
scooter
rides.
Researchers
like
the
one
who
spoke
during
the
post
agenda
have
done
a
literature
review.
Finding
that
shared
e-scooters
program
generate
more
emissions
in
the
forms
they
replace
to
be
clear.
V
V
So
the
use
of
scooters
and
ridership
on
the
scooters
is
not
a
valuable
end
in
itself,
EX
for
anybody,
except
for
the
private
Venture
capital-backed
non-profitable
company.
If
the
point
of
the
scooters
is
to
provide
underserved
populations
with
Mobility
options,
then
cities
should
start
by
assessing
who,
in
particular,
this
form
of
transportation
can
serve.
Domi
should
be
clear
about
what
populations
and
what
problems
the
technology
is
going
to
fix
and
assess
whether
it's
working.
V
We
know
that
students
traveling
largely
on
weekend
nights
and
on
weekends
or
weekday
nights
and
weekends
on
key
corridors
of
Oakland,
downtown
and
Lawrenceville
are
predominantly
using
the
service
to
meet
friends
dine
out
or
Joyride.
The
student
population
owns
fewer
cars,
is
lower
income
and
is
more
diverse
in
the
city
as
a
whole.
So
we
should
look
at
to
understand
the
data.
We
should
be
clear
about
what
percentage
of
students
are.
V
The
no
car
household
data,
low-income
households
and
minority
population
that
they're
talking
about
and
what
we'd
find
is
that
it's
a
primarily
a
transportation
solution
for
students
going
out
recreationally
in
transportation,
Rich
corridors
and
20
percent
of
the
spin
survey.
Respondents
were
non-pritzburgers.
So
are
these
the
transportation
problems
we
need
to
the
city
to
solve,
and
should
this
be
the
city's
most
touted
Transportation
initiative?
As
a
note,
Spin
and
the
city
couldn't
give
away
free
access
to
this
tutors
in
the
low
income
pilot
Universal
basic
Mobility
pilot
in
Manchester.
V
They
couldn't
find
participants
for
the
program
until
a
year
and
a
half
into
the
start
date,
and
only
then
because
low-income
people
were
looking
for
accessing
free
bus
passes.
This
is
not
work
that
PPT
should
have
to
request
and
analyze.
This
is
what
the
city
should
be
doing.
It
is
dismaying
that
Domi
is
completely
indistinguishable
from
spin
in
this
conversation.
A
You,
our
next
speaker,
is
Bonnie
fan.
W
Hi,
my
name
is
Bonnie
fan
I'm,
a
former
data
scientist
at
Chicago,
Transit
Authority
and
former
traffic
21
fellow
just
wanted
to
speak
a
little
bit
on
the
claim
that
Scooter's
address
Last,
Mile,
Transportation
problem,
Transportation
policy
consultant
and
author
of
human
Transit
Jared
Walker
wrote
about
this
in
technology.
Never
changes
geometry
where
he
says
that
in
dense
cities,
where
big
Transit
vehicles
are
carrying
significant
ridership,
any
small
Vehicles
replacing
big
vehicles
solution
increases
the
total
number
of
vehicles
on
the
road.
At
any
time.
W
W
This
may
be
fine
in
low
density,
rural
areas,
but
in
a
city
where
there's
little
space
per
person,
efficient
use
of
space
is
the
core
problem
of
Transportation
technology,
never
changes
geometry
and
you
must
solve
a
problem
spatially
before
you've
really
solved
it
in
Pittsburgh,
where
cars
park
regularly
on
the
road
on
the
sidewalk
construction
signs,
litter,
the
sidewalk
and
roads
are
on
safer.
Bikers
sidewalk
spaces
are
already
a
scarce
and
precious
public
resource
by
sheer
business
model.
Micro
Mobility
companies,
like
spin
scooters,
rely
on
littering
the
High
Vol.
W
A
high
volume
of
vehicles
across
the
city,
Pittsburgh
already
has
a
limited
sidewalk
space
and
that
it
Contin,
and
that
continues
to
shrink
with
spin
scooters
operating
the
idea
that
scooters
are
solving
a
Last.
Mile
problem
is
in
fact
a
Band-Aid.
At
best,
it
shows
that
low
income
and
people
of
color
can't
afford,
in
Pittsburgh
to
live
in
a
in
transit-rich
neighborhoods,
which
is
a
policy
problem
that
the
city
could
solve
at
its
root
with
affordable
housing
and
Transit
Equitable
land
use
plant
planning.
What's
more
is
that
scooters
are
inaccessible
to
those
with
Mobility
impairments.
W
According
to
the
latest
sentence
census
about
44
000
pittsburgers
have
a
disability
about
15
percent
of
the
city.
This
is
so
this
so-called
last
Model
Transportation
solution
excluded
those
who
most
needed
Mobility
access,
while
simultaneously
increasing
inaccessibility
on
our
already
limited
sidewalks
for
those
same
people
that
goes
beyond
inequitable
to
discriminatory
discriminatory
rather
than
the
city
making
closed-door
deals
with
private
companies
to
private
off
of
public
space
with
ableist
Solutions.
We
should
ask
for
real
Mobility
solutions
for
Equitable
Transit,
friendly
walkable
infrastructure
with
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
X
I'm
just
gonna
wing
it
I
want
to
talk
for
a
moment
about
my
experience.
Living
in
Oakland
California
for
I
lived
there
for
about
eight
years,
I
think
it
was
2018.
The
city
allowed
their
first
scooter
pilot
very
quickly.
There
were
three
different
companies
operating
in
the
city,
scooters
everywhere.
People
would
throw
them
into
the
lake,
leave
them
everywhere.
I
think
2020,
the
city
changed
the
rules
required
that
scooters
be
locked
to
a
bike
rack.
The
city
also
installed
additional
bike.
Racks
seems
like
a
pretty
straightforward
solution
to
me.
X
Let's
see,
I
was
also
just
in
Washington
DC
for
a
few
days
got
back
on
Monday
there.
The
scooters
are
all
locked
to
bike
racks
they're
out
of
the
way,
there's
beautiful
bike,
Lanes
everywhere.
I
think
this
has
all
been
said
before,
but
I
just
I'm,
not
against
scooters,
I,
just
I
think
leaving
them
on
the
sidewalk
is
a
real
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
Also
I
think
likes
has
been
touched
on.
Spin
is
not
a
profitable
company.
X
Thinking
about
my
time
in
Oakland,
California,
Uber
and
Lyft
were
seen
as
a
great
solution
to
bridge
the
gap
in
in
Last
Mile
connections.
Guess
what
they're
still
not
profitable,
they
keep
jacking
up
prices,
I,
don't
have
an
MBA
I've,
been
a
business
manager
for
like
10
years
now,
I,
don't
know
how
you
make
a
profitable,
more
company,
more
profitable
by
simply
growing
users
they're
going
to
raise
prices.
So
first
there's
the
issue.
People
become
relying
on
these.
What
happens
when
either
spin
goes
out
of
business?
Everything
disappears
or
they
raise
prices
on
everyone.
X
K
I
I
Like
I
said,
my
chair
is
broken.
You're,
fine,
no
worries
so
take
your
time.
Hi
I'm,
Elisa,
grishman
I,
live
in
uptown
good
to
see
my
councilman's,
not
here
ableist
noun
discrimination
in
favor
of
able-bodied
people
see
also
attitudes
behind
bringing
in
gimmicks
like
e-scooters,
rather
than
addressing
basic
inequal
inequities
in
public
accommodations.
I
I've
started
this
off
by
handing
out
the
same
photos
of
spin
scooters
being
left
in
the
middle
of
curb
cuts
and
lying
on
their
sides
blocking
public
rights
away.
That
I've
handed
out
at
several
previous
hearings
by
the
way
24-hour
people
driving
around
the
third
of
those
five
photos
was
there
for
almost
a
week
and
somehow
we're
here
again
saying
the
exam
exact
things
about
how
this
program
further
disenfranchises.
Already
marginalized
groups
of
people,
which
begs
the
question,
is
anyone
actually
listening
it's
time
to
find
out
so
I
guess
you're
not
allowed
to
comment.
I
Because
that's
a
lot
of
what
I've
been
hearing
so
far,
why
do
you
think
it's
okay
to
continue
such
a
discriminatory
program
that
leaves
out
people
like
me?
That
leaves
out
you
know
the
people
who
most
need
this
last
mile
Gap
three
of
those
five
photos
were
taken
within
500
feet
of
my
front
door.
I
You
know
I
love
the
smug
looks
but
like
seriously,
what
what
is
it
that
makes
you
go
well,
I
guess
we're
still:
okay,
with
excluding
an
entire
population
of
people,
I
have
to
go
in
the
street,
which
is
super
super
not
safe.
I'm
already
dealing
with
cars
parked
in
front
of
bus
stops
now
I've
got
this
e-scooters
parked
in
front
of
bus
stops.
I
You
know
that
is
a
civil
rights
violation.
I
have
reported
these
and
in
fact,
I
only
reported
them
recently,
because
I
didn't
know
you
could
report
them
most
people
don't
know.
I've
got
better
things
to
do
with
my
time
than
report.
Every
single
time,
I've
seen
a
scooter
on
the
sidewalk
to
which
Oakland
is
terrible.
I've
gotten
hit
twice
so
again.
I
I
I'd
be
really
curious
to
hear
what
the
justification
is
to
continue
this
program.
You
know
to
my
face.
You
know
my
disabled
face
anyone,
that's
what
I
thought.
A
Q
Q
I
also
have
an
urban
studies,
degree
and
I've
worked
in
urban
planning,
and
it
was
previously
on
the
city,
county,
disability
task
force
and
on
the
way
into
this
building.
Today,
a
man
in
his
car
almost
hit
me
in
the
crosswalk
when
I
had
the
right
to
cross
and
then
yelled
at
me
and
said
what
are
you
doing
get
out
of
the
road?
So
I
got
out
of
the
road,
because
I
was
scared
of
him
and
he
said
you
need
to
look
both
ways
where
you're
going
and
I
have
this
cane
and
it's
daylight.
Q
It's
actually
more
insulting
and
sort
of
professionally
disturbing
to
have
watched
for
more
than
a
year
now,
Domi
essentially
function
as
the
pr
wing
of
spin
I've
read.
The
report
too.
I
certainly
have
respect
for
their
intellectual
abilities
and
I'm,
really
questioning
that
they're
not
functioning
as
a
sort
of
dispassionate
third
party.
The
city
needs
to
have
a
Mobility
plan
that
starts
from
prioritizing
the
people
who
have
the
greatest
needs.
Q
We're
at
one
of
the
oldest
populations
in
the
country
here
in
this
city.
A
lot
of
our
seniors
are
not
going
to
identify
as
having
a
disability,
but
they
have
one.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
people,
including
these
people
over
220
pounds,
have
a
bad
knee
balance
issues
not
especially
athletic
or
adventurous,
can't
ride
the
scooters.
Q
Well,
I
can't
ride
a
bicycle
either
and
when
I
could
see
it
was
the
first
time
I
ever
felt
free,
so
I
wish
I
could
I
can't
I'm
not
here
to
complain
about
the
bike
program,
Bike
Share
program,
because
I
don't
see
people
riding
those
bikes
drunk
down
the
middle
of
the
sidewalk
I?
They
go
back
in
the
Corrals
and
they're
a
non-profit,
so
everything
is
different.
Then
I
want
to
just
emphasize
a
couple
points
here,
because
I
think
it's
helpful
to
share
of
my
own
experience.
Q
So
one
thing
is
obviously
it
causes
problems
when
they're
abandoned
in
the
road
am
I
supposed
to
wait
there
for
two
hours,
also,
when
I
am
at
least
physically
able
to
move
them
out
of
the
road.
It's
just
a
physics,
leverage
thing:
if
you're
sitting
in
a
wheelchair,
you
can't
really
move
them
out
of
the
way
yourself,
at
least
not
most
people
I've
met,
and
that's
also
true
for
friends
of
mine
that
have
use
a
cane
or
sorry
what's
going
on.
Oh,
is
that
my
time.
Q
Just
want
to
add
one
last
thing:
I
know
I'm
over
time.
There's
not
a
lot
that
says
easy
target.
Come
get
me
then
watching
a
blind
trans
girl
stumble
around
two
abandoned
scooters
on
a
broken
sidewalk
in
the
rain.
So
I
don't
know
if
I'm
gonna
get
hit
by
a
car
or
caught
up
in
some
kind
of
hate
crime,
but
Urban
Design
is
really
the
thing.
That's
going
to
keep
me
safe
and
right
now,
I'm,
clearly
not
a
priority.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
our
next
speaker
is
Amin
rahimian.
F
A
No
okay,
our
next
speaker
and
I'm
circling.
These
will
come
back
if
they
happen
to
come
back.
Next
is
Jessica
vinskas.
A
F
F
Y
Hi
everyone
Scott
Bricker,
he's
Liberty
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
bike
Pittsburgh
we're
a
3
000
member,
strong
non-profit,
whose
mission
is
transforming
our
streets
to
make
biking
and
walking
commonplace
for
Pittsburgh
to
improve
our
quality
of
life
and
reduce
car
dependency
in
our
communities.
In
recent
years
we
have
seen
a
proliferation
of
e-mobility
devices
hit
streets
throughout
the
world,
and
we
realize
that
these
Mobility
devices
serve
a
purpose
in
addressing
the
latter
part
of
our
mission.
Y
Y
Y
As
we
all
know,
it's
already
a
challenge
to
use
our
sidewalks,
given
the
state
of
disrepair.
Many
of
them
are
in
and
with
the
bigger
problems
of
cars,
parking
on
them
spin
placed
a
portion
of
the
burden,
solving
the
poorly
parked
scooter
problem
on
the
community.
Instead
of
doing
even
more
to
get
out
in
front
of
this
predictable
outcome.
Y
Y
Despite
these
problems,
we've
seen
improvement
over
the
past
year.
It's
not
perfect,
but
the
good
we've
seen
come
of
this
program.
We
believe
supports
the
continuation
of
the
pilot
and
that's
regardless
of
who
the
vendor
may
be.
We
are,
we
are
living
in
a
climate
crisis.
We
are
experiencing
higher
levels
of
injuries
and
fatalities
on
our
streets.
We
are
living
in
an
affordability
crisis
and
the
transportation
is
often
the
second
highest
household
cost.
Over
20
percent
of
Pittsburgh
households
don't
have
access
to
a
car.
Y
Y
Y
A
F
Z
Ahead,
you
hear
me
now:
yep
I,
live
I,
live
here,
Pittsburgh,
it's
right
up
behind
Mount,
Washington
and
I.
Don't
have
a
job
I'm
looking
for
one
and
every
job
I
try
to
get.
They
don't
want
to
hear
that
I'm
going
to
catch
a
bus
because
they
say
it's
unreliable.
You
know
they
don't
accept
that
as
a
acceptable
way
to
get
to
work
because
poor
Authority,
just
or
whatever
it's
called
now.
Z
So
when
I
tell
like
tell
employers,
I
can
pick
a
scooter
if
I
have
more
options,
it
helps
me
and
I
do
I
ride
them
regularly.
There
are
buses
and
trolleys
that
come
to
my
neighborhood,
but
not
on
the
weekends
as
much
and
not
or
late
at
night.
So
yeah,
it's
helping
me
get
a
job
a
little
before
when
I
was
telling
just
the
boss.
Now
I
can
tell
them.
You
know,
I
can
catch
a
scooter
and
stuff
and
a
lot
of
people
accept
that
as
reliable.
So
that's
all
I've
said.
A
A
AA
AA
I
think
it's
important
for
the
city
to
keep
its
eye
on
the
prize.
When
dummy
uses
the
word
accessible,
it's
fighting
words,
it's
what
they
really
mean
is
convenient.
There's
the
federal
civil
rights,
the
law,
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act,
it
defines
accessible
and
it
doesn't
mean
convenient
and
what
Domi
is
providing
to
City
residents
in
the
form
of
this
last
mile
Transit
service
is
something
that
clearly
is
not
accessible.
AA
When
Domi
issued
its
announcement
that
it
was
piloting
this
program,
the
task
force
on
disabilities
sent
a
letter
objecting
to
the
pilot.
We
said
from
our
perspective,
a
problem
was
identified
in
inaccessible.
Ableist
system
was
developed,
solving
the
problem
for
the
most
able,
but
not
for
those
for
to
whom
the
last
month,
Gap
is
actually
the
most
severe
we're
left
with
no
proposed
solutions
for
people
with
individual
circumstances,
for
whom
these
scooters
are
not
a
safe,
acceptable,
accessible
and
appropriate
Transit
Transportation
solution.
AA
But
once
again
we
are
asked
to
accept
the
system
designed
to
be
inaccessible
and
then,
as
usually
happens,
half
of
the
burden
shift
to
us
to
find
ways
to
retrofit
or
modify
that
system
and
find
the
funds
to
make
that
possible.
We
urge
the
city
we
said
this
two
years
ago.
We
urge
the
city
to
invite
people
with
disabilities
and
accessibility
experts
to
become
part
of
the
Pittsburgh
Mobility
Collective
and
design
a
truly
accessible
last
mile
service.
AA
Nothing
has
been
done
on
that
request
today.
Nothing,
our
eyes
are
totally
not
on
the
prize,
it's
on
this
e-scooter
gadget
and
we
need
to
shift
back
to
what's
important.
The
other
thing
is
that
Domi
needs
to
really
address
how
many
obstacles
it
can
license
on
our
right-of-way
without
increasing
its
management
capacity.
AA
I
I
want
to
invite
you
to
consider
if
I
was
there
in
person
in
my
wheelchair
and
I
blocked
the
door
exiting
the
room
of
city
council
for
one
hour,
how
would
you
feel
about
that,
and-
and
this
is
something
that
you're
asking
people
like
me-
to
accept
as
an
everyday
possibility
on
the
sidewalk-
it's
totally
unacceptable.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
Paul
next
speaker,
Sarah,
Fox
Sarah.
P
Collins
I
live
in
Crawford,
Square
hi
guys
good
afternoon,
so
I'm
gonna
make
this
short
and
sweet
for
you
guys.
I
can't
run
this
business
could
ride
double
back
surgery,
so
I'll
never
be
able
to
ride
a
spring
scooter
I,
don't
even
know
what
it
does
other
than
block
or
driveways
and
or
in
the
way,
when
I'm,
renting
a
car
from
Enterprise,
and
that
back
up
and
run
over
one
and
damaged
course,
because
that's
what
I've
done
with
it,
we
always
have
to
move
them.
They're
always
blocking
the
church
driveway
as
well.
P
I,
don't
care
where
I'm
at
they're,
always
on
the
sidewalk
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
them,
because
my
point,
my
kids
are
in
their
20s.
They
do
ride
them
but
find
a
way
to
get
people
to
put
them
back
where
they
belong.
Do
it
like
the
bikes,
the
bikes.
When
you
ride
those
bikes,
you
have
to
lock
them
back
or
they
keep
charging
do
something
where
it's
not
an
inconvenience
to
people
I,
don't
want
to
say,
get
rid
of
them
because
people
do
need
them.
P
Like
the
young
man
who
says,
that's
the
only
transportation
for
him
on
the
weekends,
because
we
need
better
transportation
and
we've
been
down
here
at
begging,
y'all
to
ask
y'all
to
help
us
with
that,
as
well
I'm
down
here,
almost
every
other
month,
asking
y'all
for
something
I'm
going
to
keep
coming
till
I
get
what
I
want.
So
if
you
could
just
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
a
happy
medium
I'm,
disabled
I
might
not
look
it,
but
I
am
a
double
back
surgery.
P
I
have
a
hearing
aid
I'm
legally
blinding
my
left
eye,
so
guess
what
I
ride
the
bikes
but
I'm
not
going
to
ride
the
spin
scooter.
In
fact,
I
taught
my
niece
a
couple
years
back
how
to
ride
those
bikes,
she's
21
years
old,
couldn't
ride
a
bike
ever
in
her
life,
I
taught
her
how
to
ride
a
bike
with
that
in
shinley
park.
P
Haven't
written
one
so
just
figure
out
how
to
make
it
a
happy
medium
for
us
people
need
them.
That's
fine,
like
everybody
says
most
people
who
write
them
or
teenagers
college
students
I
know
I
have
all
those
people
in
my
house
or
part
of
my
family.
My
girls
are
in
their
20s.
They
ride
them
all
the
time
on
the
weekends
to
go,
meet
their
friends
to
go,
have
drinks
or
whatever,
but
the
people
who
are
out
here
who
need
Transportation,
aren't
writing
them.
I'm,
not
writing
them
she's.
Not
writing
them.
P
A
Thank
you,
Tiara.
Next
up,
Ziggy
Edwards.
AB
Hi
everybody
good
to
see
you.
My
name
is
Ziggy
Edwards
and
I
live
in
the
run
I'm
here
to
encourage
you
to
drop
the
spin
scooter
pilot,
which
has
a
lot
in
common
with
the
duly
rejected
monoclin
connector.
Both
are
examples
of
Pittsburgh
city
employees,
showering
attention
in
Pittsburgh's
finite
resources
on
shiny
profiteering
schemes
while
ignoring
basic
needs
of
the
people.
They
say
they
are
serving
I
wish.
I
could
believe
these
skewed
priorities
come
from
ignorance,
but
I
saw
too
many
right
to
know
documents
during
the
six-year
battle.
AB
My
neighbors
and
I
thought,
like
the
Moc.
This
spin
pilot
is
part
of
a
public-private
partnership
with
blurry
boundaries.
Staff
members
have
been
gliding
between
working
for
the
city
and
working
for
private
entities
affiliated
with
spin
Domi.
Leadership
was
in
contact
with
spin
Representatives
a
year
before
even
launching
the
RFP
and
the
companies
in
the
move.
Pittsburgh
Mobility
pilot
were
selected
even
before
the
RFP
closed.
AB
So
you
can
understand
why
happy
PR
talk
around
spins
data
Rings
Hollow,
especially
when
it
comes
from
the
city
of
Pittsburgh's
Department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
which
is
somehow
supposed
to
evaluate
the
Pilot's
performance.
Objectively.
Move
pgh's
mid-pilot
report
on
the
scooter
program
contained
no
acknowledgment
of
concerns
raised
by
the
disability
Community.
Aside
from
the
fact
that
spin
scooters
are
in
violation
of
the
Americans,
with
Disabilities
Act,
when
they're
discarded
on
sidewalks,
as
you
heard,
they
block
access
and
create
hazardous
conditions
for
a
lot
of
people.
AB
The
way
the
program
is
set
up,
spin,
actually
profits
from
these
dangerous
conditions,
because
spin
receives
revenue
from
sidewalk
parking
fines,
not
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
yet
the
consequences
fall
to
City
resources
like
311
or
even
9-1-1,
which
are
already
stretched
thin
I'm,
not
jaded
enough
to
find
that
anything
short
of
scandalous
I
also
have
questions
about
the
extensive
data
collection
for
micro
Mobility
projects
like
this.
Many
of
us
can't
use
these
scooters
and
some
of
us
won't
because
of
privacy
concerns.
AB
AB
Shuttle
Road
from
those
meetings
came
the
our
money,
our
Solutions
plan,
which
we
sent
to
city
council
as
a
petition
and
I
keep
asking
you
guys
to
adopt,
or
at
least
respond
to
this
plan,
because
it's
full
of
good
ideas-
and
you
guys
have
done
some
of
these
things
like
replacing
the
Irvine
Street
sidewalks,
there's
a
troubling
Trend
at
Domi.
They
start
with
a
product
or
a
transportation
Tech
solution
and
then
seek
out
a
problem
to
address.
This
was
true
about
the
Oakland
connector.
AB
AB
AC
Everyone
Chris
sandvig
from
Morningside
I'm,
also
the
executive
director
of
mobilify
southwestern
Pennsylvania.
We
are
a
non-profit
working
revitalized
Transportation
by
promoting
more
accessible
Less,
Auto,
dependent
modes
of
Mobility
that'll.
Allow
enable
diverse
communities
to
thrive.
AC
You've
heard
a
lot
today,
I
think
about
the
problems
with
the
pilot,
the
issues
that
we
have
seen
with
scooters
being
left
around
I'm
I'm,
not
here
to
refute
any
of
that.
In
fact,
I've
seen
that
myself
and
by
the
way
I'll
also
say
that
my
bicycle
is
my
primary
mode
of
transportation,
followed
by
the
87
and
the
75,
and
the
71a
and
the
car
is
tertiary.
AC
I
also
have
not
been
on
a
scooter
in
Pittsburgh,
but
I
haven't
been
on
other
places,
but
I
do
want
to
pick
on
something
that
I
refer
to
oftentimes
as
shiny
object
syndrome,
which
is
what
I
think,
especially
in
this
area
we
suffer
from
in
terms
of
the
new
technology
coming
along
and
transportation
itself
is
very
Falls
victim
to
this
all
the
time
it
started
out.
We
all
heard
this
about
tnc's
left
an
Uber.
We
heard
this
about
microtransit.
We
heard
us
about
autonomous
vehicles.
AC
We've
heard
us
about
electric
vehicles
I
often
time
as
an
advocate
for
all
modes
and
fighting
against
EV
Advocates,
as
though,
as
if
that's
going
to
solve
all
of
our
problems,
and
it's
not
and
the
reality
is
here.
What
I
think
was
missing
from
these
discussions
is
what
is
the
problem
we're
actually
trying
to
solve
and
who
are
we
actually
trying
to
reach
with
this
technology?
There
is
no
Transportation
Panacea
I
have
seen
what
Scott
referred
to
and
experienced
what
Scott
referred
to
in
terms
of
scooters
being
parked
in
bike.
AC
Lanes
I've
also
been
forced
in
the
contrafo
bike
lane
in
Oakland
into
oncoming
traffic
by
a
24
foot
box
truck
that
was
parked
in
that
lane
with
the
drivers.
Just
looking
at
me
like
yeah.
What
do
you
want
me
to
do
about
it?
Sort
of
thing?
We
really
need
to
take
back
the
streets,
and
especially
the
curbs
and
the
sidewalks
here
if
we
are
serious
about
moving
away
from
the
automobile
which,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
least
Equitable
mode
of
transportation
out
there
and
the
highest
burden
and
most
subsidized
mode
out
there.
AC
If
we
are
serious
about
moving
away
from
that,
we
need
to
look
at
all
solutions,
but
we
have
to
understand
what
the
solution
frame
is,
which
gets
me
to
the
other
point
here,
a
lot
of
what
we
saw
happening
and
I've
been
involved
in
these
discussions.
Going
back
to
my
previous
career
at
pcrg.
A
lot
of
what
we
saw
with
these
Technologies
was
a
very
paternalistic
approach
to
this.
This
is
great.
Other
cities
have
it,
therefore
we
need
to
have
it
and
we'll
figure
out
how
to
make
it
work.
It's
coming.
AC
You'll
see
it's
going
to
be
great
for
your
neighborhood
in
almost
every
single
case.
That
has
not
been
the
case.
I
am
not
saying
that
the
people
who
are
using
scooters
aren't
helping
us
get
out
of
cars.
I
am
also
not
saying
that
we're
not
helping
people
get
to
work
that
otherwise
might
not
be
able
to
because
of
poor
Transit
service
or
other
reasons,
but
the
reality
is.
F
O
Hello,
Thomas,
Allen
Lawrenceville,
so
I
actually
am
a
college
student
like
I've
been
hearing
so
much
talk
about
and
I'll,
say.
I
personally
find
these
scooters
to
be
pretty
useless
in
my
day-to-day
life
for
like
actually
getting
around
for
either
like
the
expense
of
the
trip
or
just
like,
if
I'm
going
somewhere,
where
it
might
be
unsafe,
really
to
use
a
scooter
on
a
road
I'm
going
to
be
taking
the
bus
anyway.
O
And
then
the
problem
with
me
getting
to
that
location
is
more
about
the
like
frequency
of
the
bus
trips
or
like
the
hours
of
that
bus
trip
and
I
think
when
students
are
using
spin
scooters
they're
like
drunk
and
it's
late
at
night,
and
that's
like
probably
the
majority
of
the
use
case
that
I
actually
see
it.
O
I,
don't
think
students
or
young
people
really
look
towards
Hooters
as
like
something
that's
cool
or
something
that's
going
to
be
helpful
and
councilman
Krauss
mentioned
trying
to
like
considering
scooters
as
part
of
what
might
make
Pittsburgh
seem
more
attractive
to
young
people.
I.
Don't
think
that
scooters
are
that
and
I
think
that
probably
other
people
would
agree.
O
I
think
part
of
the
problem
is
that
they're
just
bad
physically
to
ride,
especially
in
Pittsburgh,
like
top
heavy
you're
standing
up
the
wheels
are
small
there's,
not
a
lot
of
cushioning
there
I
think
the
Like
Bike
Share
Solutions
are
a
lot
better.
I
think
Pogo
is
definitely
a
lot
better,
even
though
that
has
some
of
its
own
issues.
It's
like
miles
ahead
of
spin
there's,
also
the
where
like.
Where
are
we
supposed
to
ride
these
problem?
O
I
think
the
reason
why
people
are
riding
on
the
sidewalk
so
frequently
is
because
there's
not
a
bike
lane
accessible
and
the
road
is
going
to
be
like
feel
extremely
dangerous
on
a
spin
scooter
weaving
through
traffic
whatever,
and
so
that
leads
to
people
riding
on
the
sidewalk
and
then
a
whole
host
of
other
problems
that
come
along
with
that,
and
so,
if
there
is
a
bike
lane
available
and
we
can
ride
the
spinster
on
the
bike
lane,
then
why?
O
Wouldn't
we
just
be
biking
or
using
like
a
bike
share
option,
so
I
think
that
where
the
spin
scooters
do
have
a
place
for
helping
people
like
get
to
work
or
school
or
place,
they
need
to
go.
That's
probably
because
of
like
the
transit
frequency
not
being
good
enough
or
like
the
hours
not
being
long
enough.
So
people
are
forced
to
use
micro,
Mobility
type
of
options,
and
if
they
were,
if
they
were,
if
there
was
better
biking
infrastructure,
then
it
wouldn't
even
be
a
concerned
at
all.
O
I'd
also
like
to
say
this,
councilwoman
Warwick
pointed
out
the
numbers
that
spin
is
talking
about,
like
with
their
like
survey
response
and
like
the
percentage
people
that
are
using
these
for
commutes
I'm,
really
skeptical
of
those
numbers.
I've
I
was
unaware
of
like
any
survey
of
spin,
spin
users
and
I.
Think
I
think
we
should
probably
look
at
those
numbers
like
carefully.
F
A
You,
our
next
speaker,
is
Andrew
Tenenbaum.
S
Yeah
so
my
name's
Andrew
Tenenbaum
I'm,
a
bike
commuter
living
on
North
side
and
I'd
like
to
encourage
the
city
council
to
consider
adding
more
bike
infrastructure.
Rather
than
continuing
this
program.
I
wanted
to
share
a
personal
story
about
spin
scooters
in
our
city.
It
was
November,
2021
and
I
was
riding
my
bike
to
the
convenience
store
a
route
I
had
taken
many
times
before.
Someone
had
knocked
over
a
spin
scooter
and
left
it
in
the
bike.
S
Lane
I
didn't
see
it
until
I
crashed
into
it
and
fell
off
my
bike
and
a
bus
narrowly
missed
hitting
me.
Luckily,
a
Good
Samaritan
saw
the
accident.
I
was
in
shock
and
track
kept,
trying
to
get
up
and
falling
back
down,
and
he
realized
I
was
seriously
injured
and
called
an
ambulance.
For
me,
it
turned
out
that
my
collarbone
was
broken
and
I
had
to
undergo
surgery
to
have
a
plate
and
screws
put
in
and
to
make
matters
worse.
S
I
had
to
stay
with
my
parents
for
a
few
months,
because
I
couldn't
do
basic
things.
I
still
have
the
metal.
In
my
shoulder
and
a
large
Scar
from
the
surgery
I've
used.
The
scooters
and
they
can
be
fun
for
joyriding,
but
from
my
observation,
a
lot
of
people
writing
these
are
drunk
and
I've
also
observed
drunken
revelers,
throwing
them
into
the
streets.
I
really
want
the
city
council
to
think
about
the
hazard
they
posed
when
deciding
whether
to
continue
this
program.
Thanks
for
listening
to
me
today,.
A
No
okay,
well
I'll,
we'll
come
back
through.
Those
next
speaker
is
Will
Foy.
A
No
I
do
because
of
the
time.
So,
actually,
let
me
just
quickly
ask:
can:
are
we
able
to
contact
the
people
who
came
or
who
to
let
them
know
that
they
can
submit
written
comment
yeah?
We
can
do
that
afterwards.
Okay,
just
just
to
make
sure
that
they're
aware,
given
the
time
because
I
assume
a
number
of
folks
just
had
to
jump.
Okay,
our
next
speaker
is
Dan
yablonski
Dan.
AD
Hello
Council,
my
name
is
Daniel
Blonsky
and
today
I
am
reading
testimony
from
with
the
permission
of
Cynthia
Bennett,
who
is
a
blind
former
Pittsburgh
resident
who
is
living
here
during
the
scooter
pilot,
so
her
testimony
begins.
Pittsburgh
may
not
be
ready
for
a
safe
dockless
scooter
contract
without
designated
parking.
Vehicles
will
continue
to
block
sidewalks,
which
negatively
impacts.
People
with
disabilities
in
particularly
also
non-specific
ordinances,
do
not
block
I'm,
sorry,
non-specific
ordinances
to
not
block
sidewalks
may
not
be
clear
enough
to
Riders
and
I
will
give
two
examples.
AD
During
the
pilot
I
found
scooters
blocking
sidewalks,
particularly
around
the
CMU
campus.
This
was
particularly
challenging
when
the
obstacles
were
above
the
ground
and
not
that
my
white
cane
would
detect
the
vehicle
shouldn't
be
blocking
sidewalks
regardless.
But
I
mentioned
this
as
a
particularly
unsafe
form
of
blocking,
and
my
first
example.
AD
Unsafe
form
of
blocking,
and
my
first
example
of
how
the
user
may
have
thought
they
were
parking,
the
scooter
out
of
the
way
I
regularly
walked
by
the
corner
of
Fifth
Ave
and
Norwood
Ave.
Its
sidewalks
are
not
wide
enough
for
the
pedestrian
traffic.
A
scooter
was
technically
parked
on
the
grass,
but
its
handlebars
were
sticking
out
over
the
narrow
sidewalk.
My
cane
did
not
detect
them,
so
I
ran
into
them
at
about
waist
level.
In
my
second
example,
I
found
one
outside
my
apartment
door,
literally
blocking
it.
It
was
actually
quite
impressive.
AD
AD
I
also
previously
lived
in
Seattle
during
their
dockless
bike
pilot
in
2018
to
2019.
So
this
was
a
dark
repeat,
pedestrian
experience.
For
me,
my
experience
with
dockless
bikes
were
so
impactful
that
I
intended
some
public
meetings
in
Seattle,
as
regulations
were
developed
and
I
was
not
the
only
concerned
blind
or
disabled
Advocate.
AD
We
have
several
local
news
stories
published
on
the
topic,
though
I
was
not
directly
interviewed
as
I
Was
preparing
to
move
across
the
country
when
I
arrived
in
Pittsburgh
I
Incorporated
such
advocacy
into
my
academic
research
profession,
where
I
have
influence
and
where
many
such
devices
are
initially
prototyped
and
tested
in
public.
In
response
to
the
dockless
pilot,
Seattle
implemented
quarterly
parking,
Audits
and
fines
to
companies.
AD
N
M
Caregiver
during
the
day
as
well,
my
name
is
Morningside
I'm
here
today
to
ask
the
council
and
don't
need
to
work
on
real
Transit
Solutions
and
by
real
I
mean
those
that
are
not
dependent
on
a
for-profit
company
deploying
e-scooters
and
I
say
this,
because
the
evidence
around
shared
his
scooters
is
that
best
mixed
when
seen
from
an
environmental,
economic
and
societal
benefits,
including
on
whether
these
Footers
increase
access
to
public
transit
by
serving
as
a
first
and
last
mile
option
at
a
time
when
PRT
is
cutting
back
on
trips,
I
would
be
interested
on
Spin
and
Domi,
making
data
available
to
determine
how
spin
trips
have
interacted
with
changes
in
transit,
ridership
and
schedule
changes
for
context.
M
We
actually
has
cut
down
on
the
frequency
of
87
M2
once
an
hour,
which
means
that
I
have
fewer
options
to
get
around.
For
me
personally,
as
I
said,
with
a
two-month-old
baby,
Stephen
is
not
a
solution
that
I
can
utilize
to
connect
to
other
routes
that
run
more
frequently.
I
would
also
like
additional
analysis
to
see
if
spin
usage
rather
points
to
neighborhoods
that
need
additional
Investments
for
improving
plants.
Data
Exist
by
putting
in
bus,
shelters,
referring
sidewalks
and
making
other
such
improvements.
M
Given
that
the
agony,
County
DHS,
is
piloting
a
low
income
Fair
payment
program,
I
believe
it
is
time
for
Domi
to
start
determining
what
can
be
done
to
support
that
program
so
that
a
more
sustainable
solution
is
created
for
those
in
need
and
one
that
is
not
dependent
on
for-profit
companies.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
Rahul.
Our
next
speaker
is
Gail
block
is
Gail
online.
No
okay.
Our
next
speaker
is
Hunter.
Just
Hunter.
AE
AF
Hi
hi,
my
name
is
Tiffany
Talton
I'm,
a
resident
of
Hazelwood
I,
don't
identify
as
a
disabled
person
or
a
low-income
person,
but
I
am
a
person
that
doesn't
drive
and
I
am
a
person
who's
not
particularly
adventurous,
in
a
way
that
you'll
see
me
going
down
the
street
in
a
scooter,
especially
along
2nd
Avenue,
which
I
view
as
a
death
trap.
AF
Hazelwood's
very
hilly
I
would
not
ride
a
scooter
here
either
because
it
is
very
steep
in
a
lot
of
places.
Although
I
do
see
people
riding
scooters
here
and
so
for
me,
I
think
it's
a
mixed
bag.
I
understand
that
there
are
people
that
enjoy
the
scooters,
but
I
think
the
reality
of
the
situation
is
that
they
are
not
as
helpful
as
the
numbers
that
are
being
presented
are
trying
to
convince
us
of.
Very
few
people
can
actually
benefit
from
them.
I'm.
AF
AF
So
this
is
not
a
Mobility
solution
for
me,
a
person
who
has
never
learned
to
drive
a
car
and
who
cannot
get
somewhere
unless
there
is
a
good
bus
or
an
Uber,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
this
scooter
discussion
is
really
a
distraction
from
what
we
need
to
talk
about,
which
is
increased
public
transportation
and
better
sidewalks,
so
that
I
can
walk
down
the
street
and
walk
on
a
sidewalk
safely
and
get
where
I
need
to
go.
There
are
places
in
Hazelwood
that
do
not
have
complete
sidewalks.
AF
There
are
places
here
that
do
not
have
sidewalks
that
are
very
traversable
because
they
are
so
in
such
bad
shape
and
because
there
are
a
lot
of
cars
parked
on
them
and
now
I
have
to
deal
with
scooters
being
parked
on
them
as
well
and
I
don't
care.
If
you
can
tell
me
the
company's
going
to
pick
it
up,
quick,
it's
in
my
way,
right
now,
when
I'm
trying
to
get
some
place
and
even
though
I'm
not
in
a
wheelchair
I,
do
find
them
very
difficult
to
move
out
the
way
they
are
rather
heavy.
AF
And
when
there's
multiple
scooters
parking
along
your
sidewalk
or
just
falling
over,
it
can
really
make
walking
around
the
neighborhood
very
unpleasant
and
very
dangerous,
especially
if
you
have
a
small
child
with
you
and
so
I.
Just
I
think
that
something
needs
to
be
done
about
the
parking
of
the
scooters
and
how
much
public
support
we
give
to
them
and
how
much
public
energy
we
spend
talking
about
them.
F
A
Okay,
our
next
speaker
is
Roy
Blankenship.
F
AG
Hi,
my
name
is
Brian
Kell
I
live
in
central
Lawrenceville,
I
ride,
spin
scooters
actually
pretty
regularly,
probably
five
or
six
times
a
week.
I
mostly
use
them
to
get
to
work.
I
work
in
East
Liberty,
so
I
drive,
I
ride
through
Bloomfield
and
friendship.
AG
I
first
came
to
Pittsburgh
in
2009,
I
fell
in
love
with
the
city
in
2019,
I
was
transferred
to
Munich.
Germany
I
lived
there
for
three
years.
One
of
the
things
that
I
really
enjoyed
about
Munich
I
think
it's
a
great
city
to
live
in
was
how
easy
it
was
to
get
around
the
city.
Now.
AG
This
is
not
just
due
to
scooters.
Of
course
they
have
lots
of
different
Transportation
options.
They've
got
street
cars,
they've
got
buses,
they've
got
Subways,
they've
got
trains,
they've
got
great
bike
infrastructure,
but
they
do
also
have
scooters.
There's
about
five
or
six
scooter.
Companies
I
learned
how
to
ride
the
scooters
there
in
Munich
and
I
would
ride
them
on
occasion,
and
so
when
I
came
back
to
Pittsburgh,
I
was
pleasantly
surprised
to
see
that
there
were
scooters
here
as
well
started
using
them.
AG
I
never
felt
the
need
to
have
a
car
in
Munich.
I
feel
like
Pittsburgh,
probably
isn't
to
that
point.
Yet
I
don't
have
a
car,
but
it
would
be
great
to
be
in
a
city
where
it
was
as
easy
to
get
around
as
Munich.
Obviously,
scooters
are
not
the
whole
solution
to
the
problem,
but
I
think
it's
a
it
would
be.
A
good
thing
for
Pittsburgh
to
you
know,
invest
in
public
transit
in
all
forms,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
my
perspective
on
it.
AH
Hi,
my
name
is
Armin
Sammy
I'm,
a
resident
in
Lawrenceville
I'm,
also,
the
founder
of
a
company
called
dash
cam
for
your
bike
and
the
chair
of
better
streets,
Lawrenceville
I'm
speaking
on
my
own
behalf,
but
with
the
context
provided
by
my
roles
in
those
organizations,
I
think
more
car
free
options
to
get
around
Pittsburgh
is
a
good
thing.
AH
If
it
can
work
and
I
think
spin
scooters
are
very
likely
to
work
but
I'm
having
trouble
trusting
the
data
coming
from
spin
so
from
the
presentations
earlier,
it
seemed
like
there
were
two
separate
data
streams.
One
is
what
spin
presents
and
the
other
is
domi's
independent
audits
where
they
go
out
and
look
at
what's
happening
and
I
I
didn't
see
the
whole
presentation,
but
I
don't
think
there
was
any
mixing
of
that
data.
AH
And
so
what
I'd
really
like
to
see
is
an
independent
audit
of
the
data
that
spin
gives,
for
example,
after
every
trip
you
have
to
take
a
photo
and
they
claim
that
those
photos
are
evaluated
by
W2
employee
and,
if
you've
parked
on
the
sidewalk
you
get
penalized.
Do
we
have
an
audit
of
that
data
stream?
I
I
didn't
think
we
did
from
from
the
presentations
earlier
and
if
we
don't
I,
think
we
need
one,
whether
that's
Domi
or
somebody
else
I.
Think
we
need
to
excuse
me
audit
that
data
there's
something
second
thing.
AH
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
yes:
scooters
parked
in
the
bike
lanes
and
on
sidewalks
are
an
issue.
They
seem
to
have
been
getting
less
bad
over
time.
It
seems
to
be
improving.
The
bigger
issue,
in
my
opinion,
is
car
sparked
on
the
sidewalk
and
cars
parked
on
the
bike
lane.
So
it's
better
streets
Lawrenceville
once
a
month
we
would
go
around
Lawrenceville
and
put
flyers
on
cars
that
are
illegally
parked
on
the
sidewalk
asking
them
not
to.
AH
In
general,
we
get
about
80
Vehicles
parked
on
the
sidewalk
on
Main
Street,
on
a
single
Street
80
cars
illegally
parked
on
the
sidewalk.
Those
numbers
just
don't
exist
with
scooters
right.
So
so,
let's
not
lose
sight
of
what
the
bigger
issue
is
here,
which
is,
there
are
no
consequences
to
parking
a
car
on
a
sidewalk.
You
I'd,
never
see
tickets,
there's
definitely
no
consequences
to
parking
a
car
in
a
bike
lane.
AH
There
seem
to
be
maybe
minor
consequences
for
scooters
parking
in
either
of
these,
so
more
options
is
good.
Let's
make
sure
it's
working,
let's
audit
the
data
and,
let's
not
forget
the
much
bigger
issue
which
is
two-ton
vehicles
on
our
bike
bike
lanes
and
on
our
sidewalks.
Thank
you.
AI
I'm
Helen
gerhardt
I
live
in
North
Point
Breeze
I
I'm
speaking
as
a
previous
commissioner
of
the
Pittsburgh
Commission
on
human
relations,
which
upholds
civil
rights
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
as
former
chair
of
the
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
task
force
in
2018.
There
was
a
report
released
by
that
task.
AI
Force
and
two
of
the
recommendations
were
about
neighborhood
accessibility,
including
addressing
persistent
accessibility
barriers
in
our
neighborhood
business
districts
and
appropriate
standards
and
enforcement
practices
for
equal
access
to
accessible
sidewalks
local
governments
have
overlapping
and
reinforcing
responsibilities
under
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
and
the
Fair
Housing
Act.
The
Ada
sets
the
standards
for
accessibility
and
the
responsibilities
it
determines
as
part
of
that
it
determines
what
is
inaccessible.
The
Fair
Housing
Act
focuses
on
Fair
Housing
choice
for
classes
of
people
protected
under
the
law.
AI
Accessibility
barriers
in
our
neighborhood
business
districts
are
effectively
excluding
people
with
disabilities
from
community
activities
and
amenities.
The
federal
Housing
Act
identified
lack
of
equal
access
to
community
amenities
as
an
impediment
to
fair
housing,
choice,
sidewalks
or
the
communities,
pedestrian
arteries,
providing
access
to
many
basic
needs,
such
as
healthy
food,
public
accommodations
and
services.
Health
Care
social
connection
and
other
critical
needs,
including
connecting
to
public
transit
and
Tran
and
Transit
stops.
AI
AI
They
not
only
block
sidewalks
for
people
who
use
wheelchairs.
They
also
create
a
serious
risk
of
Falls
and
serious
injuries
for
people
with
visual
impairments
and
for
people
with
disabilities
who
try
to
move
the
the
scooters
rather
than
divert
public
resources
toward
a
private
company,
such
as
stem,
which
is
creating
more
barriers
for
people
with
disabilities.
AI
The
city
should
be
investing
and
improving
and
maintaining
basic
multimodal
Mobility
infrastructure
such
as
sidewalks
ramps,
bus
shelters,
bike,
Lanes
and
infrastructure
for
bikes,
clear
signage
and
enforcing
Fair,
Housing,
Act
and
Ada
standards
across
all
areas
of
our
shared
Civic
lighting
Civic
life.
Thank
you.
I
A
Thank
you
so,
but
in
any
case
we
will
email,
everybody
and
let
them
know
that
they
can
record
comments
or
or
email
us
comments,
so
yeah,
so
I
apologize
and
I
I
take
responsibility.
This
is
my
first.
This
is
my
first
post
agenda,
so
well
in
any.
In
any
case,
just
with
the
timing
and
back
to
back,
but
I
did
want
just
to
reiterate.
A
AJ
My
name
is
Nadia
I
live
in
Squirrel,
Hill
and
I
work
with
students
and
adolescents
and
their
parents.
A
huge
group
that
can't
use
spin
scooters.
You
can't
exactly
Papoose
your
baby
onto
your
back
and
then
have
a
grocery
bag
on
each
hand.
On
this
bottom,
heavy
janky
mode
of
transportation,
they
are
not
accessible.
I
mean
I,
really
appreciate
that
you
said
you
wanted
all
communities
to
have
access
to
the
scooters,
because
we
can't
do
that
with
the
scooters.
AJ
All
communities
can't
access
the
scooters
people
over
the
weight
class
people
who
can't
stand
up
for
very
long
people
who
have
Mobility,
AIDS
or
visual
impairments,
people
who
have
kids
people
who
don't
have
smartphones
I
know
that
spin
has
this
long
drawn
out
process
where
you
can
go,
and
if
you
have
online
access
you
can
get
a
card
to
use
the
spin
cruise,
but
freely
you
need
a
phone.
If
you
don't
have
a
smartphone,
you
can't
access
the
spin
scooters.
AJ
How
many
people
is
that
a
cut
off
for
where,
if
you
don't
have
the
money
for
a
smartphone,
you
just
can't
use
these
scooters
so
they're
not
actually
a
Last
Mile
solution
for
any
of
those
people.
The
scooters
are
a
solution,
maybe
for
young
college
kids
and
Tech
yuppies
and
we're
already
courting
them
with
so
many
of
the
projects
we
have
around
the
city.
I,
don't
think
that
they
need
special
rides
just
for
them.
It
doesn't
make
sense
y'all
they
don't
they
just
don't
those
people
come
with
cars.
AJ
We
have
kids
who
come
in
these
big
SUVs.
You
have
Google
and
Duolingo
workers
who
come
in
big
SUVs.
They
are
not
riding
scooters
if
they're
riding
scooters
it's
because
they
can't
drive
their
cars
because
they
are
drunk
or
you
have
tourists
who
are
coming
and
they
Park
in
a
parking
lot
and
they're
like
you
know
what
I
don't
want
to
park
in
another
parking
lot:
I'm
going
to
take
a
spin
scooter
down
to
the
stadium
and
down
to
a
restaurant,
and
then
we're
gonna
go
to
the
strip.
AJ
This
is
great
and
it's
fun
if
we're
a
tourist
City.
But
it's
not
making
things
any
more
accessible
for
the
people
that
live
here.
I
have
middle
schoolers
who
come
in
to
my
store,
they're,
really
awesome.
They
want
to
get
around,
they
need
bus
passes,
they
need
more
buses
to
and
from
the
places
that
they
go.
AJ
Thank
you
and
in
terms
of
getting
picked
up
at
all
hours,
they
do
not
my
partner
and
I
park.
Our
car
constantly
to
move
sidewalk
scooters.
It's
like
my
own
personal
Crusade.
It
does
nothing
I,
do
it
most
nights
of
a
week
they
beep
at
you.
They
are
loud,
they
are
heavy.
The
Wheels
lock
and
you
just
have
to
Lug
this
thing.
I
am
not
strong.
You
have
to
Lug
it
off
the
sidewalk.
AJ
You
toss
it
in
someone's
yard,
because
homeowners
really
don't
like
the
scooters
spin,
responds
to
homeowners
but
they're
not
responding
to
disabled
people.
They're
not
responding
to
people
who
can't
access
them.
It
just
doesn't
make
sense.
I've
seen
them
thrown
down
Hills
in
the
Parks
I've
seen
them
left
in
yards
I've
seen
them
left
in
streets
in
bike
Lanes.
They
are
not
a
good
solution.
Nobody
in
my
neighborhood
uses
them
and
they're,
not
in
a
big
way.
They're,
not
helping
people
get
within
neighborhoods.
AJ
AK
I
live
in
Oakland
and
I'm,
a
student
at
the
University
of
Pittsburgh
and
I'm
here
in
support
of
spin
scooters
operating
in
Pittsburgh.
First
I'd
like
to
speak
to
the
use
of
spin
scooters
in
Oakland
myself
and
other
students
rely
on
scooters
for
various
reasons,
including,
but
not
limited
to
transportation,
to
class
work
in
private
locations.
AK
Spins
and
scooters
provide
transportation
for
individuals
without
access
to
private
Motor,
Vehicles
to
locations
or
public
transportation
doesn't
bring
commuters.
They
provide
transportation
routers
at
all
times,
including
late
at
night,
when
students
and
other
Riders
may
feel
unsafe,
walking
around
the
city
alone.
Just
the
other
night
I
rode
a
spinscooter
home
from
Hillman,
the
University
of
Pittsburgh's
library.
After
an
active
shooter
reported
in
the
building,
the
availability
of
the
scooter
brought
me
to
a
safe
location.
AK
Much
faster
than
walking
Republic
Transportation
would
have
enabled
second
I'd
like
to
address
the
concerns
with
riders
parking
on
sidewalks
and
in
unauthorized
locations.
Spin
requires
users
to
provide
pictures
following
each
ride,
proving
a
scooter
was
parked
in
a
viable
spot
if
the
image
shows
otherwise,
such
as
on
a
sidewalk
or
the
bus.
Stop
the
student,
the
user
will
be
fined
and
their
account
will
be
in
Jeopardy
if
your
user
violates
spins
policy
three
times
their
account
is
banned.
AK
Now,
in
my
perspective,
most
regular
spins
spin
Riders
would
avoid
this
after
the
first
violation
as
active
users
seek
continued
use
of
the
scooters
and
further
those
complaining
about
the
location
of
the
scooters
upon
parking
field
understand
that
these
scooters
are
quite
visible.
A
simple
check
of
one's
surroundings
will
ensure
that
individuals
will
not
run
into
scooters
just
so
we
ensure
sidewalks
and
Roads.
We
travel
on
powels,
loose
objects
and
other
things
blocking
walkways
and
transportation
race.
AK
Third
I'll
speak
to
the
safety
precautions
already
in
place
in
Pittsburgh,
whilst
riding
some
scooters
bike
lanes
are
the
most
apparent
precaution
and
it
is
obvious
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
seeks
to
emphasize
reviews.
This
is
also
tied
to
the
environmental
advantages
of
using
electric
scooter,
as
it
keeps
Riders
out
of
Ubers
and
other
Rideshare
vehicles
and,
lastly,
I'd
like
to
mention
how
spin
actively
Works
to
adapt,
adapt
their
service
to
best
enable
safe
use
of
scooters
and
safe
parking
of
scooters.
AK
AK
The
transformation
of
spin
service
within
the
past
year
has
greatly
improved
to
meet
many
of
the
address,
concerns
and
I
believe
spin
is
willing
to
continue
to
make
the
changes
to
their
services
to
ensure
they
best
serve
Pittsburgh
as
a
convenience
rather
than
inconvenience.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
F
A
You
Brennan
okay,
so
we're
actually
going
to
step
back
to
Joy
door
because
she's
joined
online
Joy
foreign.
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
They
have
to
go
swimming
places.
He's
had
more
infrastructure
such
as
decks
to
put
them
in
if
you're
going
to
keep
them,
have
the
educate
the
Raiders
and
not
raise
them
on
the
same
words,
wheelchairs
can't
pass
by
people
working
workers
can't
pass
by
I
feel
that
it
could
do
a
better
job
of
maintaining
grab
you
up
in
seat
America,
for
we
expecting
save
action
streets.
The
next
next
season,
any
type
of
way
or
almost
any
busy
areas.
AL
People
are
trying
to
get
treatment
at
area,
hospitals,
people
trying
to
go
to
school
where
people
in
the
busy
quarters
are
supposed
to
read
well.
I
was
supposed
to
be
the
safest
state
of
Arizona
tricky
areas
to
navigate
the
hospital
area
by
Presby
the
thought
clinic
in
Oakland,
for
example,
my
pays
heavily
under
construction
so
or
you
can
Pastor.
Is
there
it
or
beginners?
Please
educate
the
Raiders
on
their
properties.
I
ain't
telling
people
where
to
raise
say,
free,
more
docking
stations,
peace,
invest
in
infrastructure,
they
have
things
thick,
save
monster.
A
Thank
you
Joy.
Thank
you.
Our
next
registered
speaker
is
quell
is
quell
here
or
online
yeah,
and
our
final
registered
speaker
is
Clara
Weibel.
AM
Although
anecdotes
I
have
two
short
stories
to
share
as
to
why
I
oppose
the
spin
scooters
pilot
program
and
further
expansion
of
the
scooters
first
on
my
street
nearly
every
day
there
was
a
scooter
parked
on
the
sidewalk
outside
of
my
housing
building
every
day,
a
neighbor
up
the
street
who
uses
an
electric
mobility
chair
comes
down
the
street
because
that's
the
way
to
you
know
enter
public
life.
Although
I
moved
the
scooter
when
I
see
it
and
I'm
sure
others
do
too,
it
feels
like
an
undue
burden
on
US
citizens.
AM
As
seen
through
this
example.
There
is
also
a
trade-off
in
public
space,
our
sidewalks
and
that's
negotiated
by
allowing
these
scooters
to
be
parked
anywhere
as
a
street
space
and
sidewalk
space.
These
things
already
being
limited.
The
so-called
access
provided
by
the
Spin
scooters
comes
at
the
expense
of
other
people's
needs.
From
ability
and
transportation
access,
second,
my
other
anecdote.
AM
After
the
Bloomfield
parade,
I
saw
a
spin
scooter
user
while
on
their
scooter,
get
hit
by
a
car
that
was
turning
onto
Liberty,
and
although
the
car
stopped
and
bystanders
offered
help,
she
refused
and
got
back
up
and
been
sped
off.
So
I
think
that
the
scooters
I'm
not
sure,
if
they're
equipped
with
enough
safety
information
and
if
they
offer
protections
for
these
types
of
issues
assuming
individual
risks,
along
with
the
expensive
operation,
costs
these
or
obstacles
that
prevent
us
as
a
city
from
achieving
transparent,
Transportation
Provisions.
AM
This
program
is
a
public-private
partnership
in
which
the
city
has
been
uncritically
publishing.
Spins
talking
points
around
their
data
in
the
mid
pilot
report
on
the
scooter
program,
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
Domi
did
not
respond
to
or
name
the
concerns
of
the
disability
Community,
both
around
the
spin
scooters
being
in
violation
of
the
Ada
and
the
fact
that
the
scooters
have
regularly
been
an
obstructing
access
for
pedestrians
and
wheelchair
users
on
the
sidewalks.
Although
short,
these
examples
to
me
show
that
the
scooters
are
not
providing
for
our
needs.
AM
I
would
like
to
see
a
more
robust,
Transit
Network
that
all
can
use,
regardless
of
size,
age
ability,
disability
access
to
a
smartphone.
If
they're
carrying
a
lot
of
items
and
Etc,
the
city
should
pursue
real
Transit
solutions
that
would
serve
people
really
in
need,
rather
than
solutions
that
are
driven
by
private
companies
that
service
comparatively
few
people.
Our
overall
Transit
needs
are
not
met
by
e-scooters.
The
problems
that
are
framed
is
being
solved
by
East.
Booters
would
also
be
solved
by
improving
bus
frequency,
weekend
service
and
reliable
transit
times.
AM
Our
overall
Transit
needs
also
include
things
like
Capital
Improvements.
The
bus
stops
Transit
infrastructure,
including
sidewalks,
and
the
need
for
Transit
oriented
development
that
allows
for
more
affordable
housing
by
quality
Transit.
These
Transit
issues
can
become
Transit
Solutions
and
they
can
be
addressed
at
the
city
level.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Clara
that
exhausts
our
list
of
registered
speakers
is
their.
So
how
should
we
just
have
people
come
up
one
by
one,
so
you
have
one
minute
if
you
were
not
registered.
AN
However,
I
often
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
invisibility
of
my
councilman,
who
it,
which
seems
like
to
be
a
con,
a
constant
thing.
The
other
thing
that
I
see
or
not
issue
but
kind
of
like
something
I
wasn't
thought
about
is
this
is
a
pilot
program
and
it's
more
of
like
a
Band-Aid
to
what
the
real
solution
is,
which
is
lack
of
Transportation
period.
AN
I
live
in.
Excuse
me,
I
live
in
a
community
of
Homewood,
my
name
is
Carlos
Thomas.
We
don't
really
have
too
much
affordable
Transportation
as
far
as
public
transportation,
but
the
spin
scooters
also
are
almost
not
there.
We
have
I
think
two
locations
which
is
one
down
in
our
business
district.
They
do
come
and
pick
them
up
overnight,
because
I
often
Park
one
in
front
of
my
house
and
by
the
morning
is
gone.
AN
So
when
we
talk
about
Equity
equality
and
how
this
program
brings
what
is
bringing
to
our
community,
it's
really
not
bringing
what
we
think
it
is.
The
other
thing
I
would
like
to
mention
is
the
fact
that
there's
no
governmental
Aid,
you
know
sharing
here.
My
understanding,
Domi
does
not
sit
on
our
PRT.
Indian
knows
PRT
conversations
and
nor
does
suspend
people.
AN
So
when
we
talk
have
these
conversations
about
Transportation,
they're
kind
of
like
two
separate
conversations
between
County
government
and
city
government,
understanding
what
city
government's
limitations
are
and
understanding
what
County
government
limitations
are
you
all
learn
talking?
It
doesn't
seem
like
it
to
the
public
at
least
I
yield.
F
N
There
are
many
Mobility
needs
unaddressed
by
the
city
instead
choosing
to
focus
on
false
solutions
for
Last
Mile
Mobility
like
e-scooters
sidewalk
problems,
inability
to
find
affordable
housing
with
quality,
Transit,
lack
of
bus
shelters
and
buses
slowed
down
by
car
traffic.
These
are
just
some
of
the
problems
that
the
city
should
be
focused
on
not
abusing
this
particular
demographic
with
flashy
toys
that
require
money
and
a
smartphone
to
access.
N
Scooters
exclude
by
Design
Riders
under
18
people
who
are
unbanked
or
without
a
smartphone,
low-income
people,
people
over
220
pounds,
people
carrying
cargo
or
dependents,
people
who
are
not
able-bodied
or
have
balance
issues,
people
who
live
in
Hills
or
valleys
residents
and
communities
without
safe
infrastructure
and
older
adults
instead
share
these
scooters
mostly
provide
another
Transportation
choice
for
those
who
already
have
the
most
options
and
access.
This
is
frustrating
and
annoying
in
a
city
that
keeps
privileging
the
needs
of
young
already
mobile
citizens.
N
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
vast
amount
of
data
that
spin
scooters
are
collecting
and
worry
about
the
surveillance
we're
all
already
subject
to
who
consented
to
being
surveilled
by
these
flashy
toys.
As
a
researcher
I
think
it's
a
bit
ridiculous.
That
you'll
have
spent
so
much
time
discussing
this
survey,
which
has
several
glaring
issues
of
sampling
and
bias,
most
importantly,
that
it
leaves
out
the
huge
population
of
people
who
don't
use
the
scooter.
For
various
reasons,
it
seems
you
all
have
fallen
for
spin
spin
on
the
issue
and
are
discussing
it
on
their
terms.
N
To
sum
up,
I
think
the
city
should
invest
in
improving
existing
Transit
options
or
buses
and
more
routes,
improved
sidewalks
public
bathrooms,
more
affordable
housing
and
urban
planning
decisions
that
Center
the
most
vulnerable
populations
enough
appeasing
of
upwardly
mobile
creative
classes
in
the
city,
where
the
priorities
are
already
lopsided
to
privilege
the
already
privileged
these
unprofitable
spin
scooters
will
eventually
run
out
of
venture
capital
funding.
Please
invest
in
the
residence
of
the
city
instead
of
spending
more
time
and
resources
falling
for
spin.
P
AO
Name
is
Kevin
Joe
I'm,
a
bus
operator
for
for
the
port
authority
and
I.
Look
at
it
as
a
safety
issue.
All
around
these
scooters
are
parked
in
our
bus
stops,
which
affect
people
who
are
wheelchairs
even
walking
people
to
get
on
my
bus
I
have
scooters
all
over
the
place.
You
know
they're
commonly
North
Avenue
and
Brighton
Road
Benton
and
Brighton
Road
they're,
always
in
the
bus,
stop
and
there's
a
lot
of
wheelchair
people
there
you
got
a
high-rise
of
North
Avenue
in
Brighton.
They
use
the
bus.
AO
Stop
makes
hard
turns
for
us
to
make
it
makes
it
unsafe
for
other
Travelers
trying
to
get
around
us
because
we're
trying
to
avoid
scooters
in
a
40-foot
bus,
very
difficult,
that's
all
I've
really
say-
is
they're
inconvenient
for
bus
operators
and
I
know
the
they're
trying
to
get
rid
of
them
with
the
scooters.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thanks.
A
A
AE
I
live
in
Friendship
I
I
am
not
able
to
use
scooter;
I
would
not
be
able
to
use
it
for
another
account
for
shopping,
and
that
would
be
unable
to
do
anything
in
traffic.
AE
I
mean
scooters
providers
approach
me
from
behind
without
me,
knowing
it
and
not
imitating
that
if
I
had
stopped
together
moved
a
little
to
the
left,
I
might
have
been
hit.
This
also
happens
with
bicep
pulls
as
well.
Exceptions
of
weather
improves
that
the
situation
will
increase.
AE
Also
I've
had
to
move
bicycles
off
if
I
stopped,
adding
sorry
scooters
off.
My
sidewalk,
which
is
inconvenient
I,
think
the
state
should
be
more
concerned
with
working
with
on
helping
PRT
includes
the
certain
imposters
arriving
and
schedules.
A
I
would
like
to
say
so
just
I'm
going
to
make
a
few
comments
since
we
got
cut
off
on
the
on
the
post
agenda,
but
I
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
both
to
Domi
Spin
and
everybody
in
the
room
for
coming.
This
has
been
a
long
and
difficult
conversation.
I
know.
I
do
want
to
clarify
that
intentions
are
good
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
there
to
be
any
sense
that
that
there's
there's
nothing
nefarious
going
on
I.
A
Just
think
that
this
is
perhaps
listening
to
the
folks
in
the
room
and
keeping
in
mind
that
this
is
the
first
time
that
the
public
has
really
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
these
scooters
and-
and
you
know,
I
hope
that
From
domi's
perspective
and
spin's
perspective.
You
can
see
this
was
a
long
time
coming
and
there
are
a
lot
of
thoughts
and
feelings,
and
you
know
information
and
coming
out
of
this
I
know
it
can
be
hard
to
hear,
but
sometimes
you
know
we
have
to.
You
know
that.
A
That's
that's
how
we
get
better.
That's
how
we
learn
is
to
to
sort
of
self-reflect
right,
so
I
do
want
to
say
so
just
just
to
kind
of
go
into
a
few
points.
From
my
perspective,
just
looking
at
the
numbers
that
I've
looked
at
and
and
the
extent
I
do,
I
want
to
also
thank
Laura
baiko
legal
aid
in
my
office
and
and
Blake
plavchek
and
councilman
coghills
office.
They
did
an
enormous
amount
of
work
to
pull
all
this
together.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
them.
A
So
as
far
as
ridership,
you
know,
if
you
look
and
and
I'm
basing
most
of
what
I
have
on
the
first
report
right
from
that
was
released
in
October
of
2022,
but
you
know
more
than
80.
According
to
that
report,
more
than
80
percent
of
spin
users
are
under
34
years
old
right
between
18
and
34
years,
old
and
and
most
writers
are
not
you
know,
and
and
36
30
about
33
percent
of
those
users
rarely
use
them
and
only
6.4
percent
were
using
them
every
day.
A
Now
I
know
that
in
the
the
report
that
was
released
a
few
days
ago,
it's
unclear
I
I
first
became
aware
of
a
new
report
in
the
Trib
article
today,
so
that
was
you
know,
but
I
I
really
do
encourage
a
deep
and-
and
someone
mentioned,
a
third
party
audit
I-
think
that
would
that
is
certainly
in
order
just
because
so,
for
example,
the
commuting
numbers
bef.
You
know
in
the
earlier
report,
it
was
21.5
percent
said
that
they
they
used
them
for
commuting,
but
the
question
would
be
well.
A
How
often
right
do
you
is?
It
did
and
if
it's
just
a
check
box,
as
we
heard
where
you're
just
checking
a
box
that
could
be
well
I
used
it
for
commuting
once
or
do
I
use
it
for
commuting
every
day
and
apparently
that
is
now
jumped
up
to
48.
But
again,
how
often
is
this,
because
when
we
look
at
the
cost
and
the
cost
is
a
huge
Factor
with
this
service,
you
know
to
go
a
mile
and
a
half
it
costs
about.
A
You
know,
roughly,
you
know
a
little
over
six
dollars
to
go.
If
you
have
the
one
dollar
unlock
Etc,
so
I
mean
if
you're
commuting
a
mile
and
a
half
that
would
be.
You
know
twelve
dollars
a
day.
That's
a
lot
of
money
right
for
commuting
and
and
I
and
the
24
hour
my
understanding
for
24
hours.
You
can
do
that
for
26,
but
that's
still
a
long
time
right.
A
A
lot
of
money,
so
you
know
I,
would
certainly
have
questions
about
how
all
that
actually
shakes
out
and
again
that
that
goes
back
to
a
sir,
a
report
done
based
on
a
survey
of
the
people
using
the
service
right.
That
is
just
inherently
skewed,
so
I
also
just
in
terms
of
the
of
the
access
program.
While
I
do
appreciate
that
there
is
an
access
program.
A
I'm,
you
know,
I'm,
you
know
the
the
effort
is
there,
but
my
understanding
from
emails
that
we've
gotten
also
from
director
Lucas's
report
or
presentation
here
it's
about
400
users,
so
even
with
the
with
the
the
the
overall
unique
user
base
of
150
or
so
thousand
that's
only
2.4
percent.
That's
generous
right
because
we
seemingly
have
more
users
now.
So
that's
that's!
A
Very
few
people
are
actually
using
this
access
program
and
and
and
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
of
users
again
based
on
the
previous
report
that
that
live
within
the
access
Zone,
it
have
it's
around
seven
percent
and
again
that
is
generous
right,
that
is,
that
is
a
very
generous
calculation
and
so
yeah,
and
then
oh
okay,
yeah,
and
so
you
know,
and
also
just
in
terms
of
what,
what
are
folks
using
it
for
you
know,
Recreation
dining
out
meeting
friends.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
this
it
it.
A
A
You
know,
man
or
woman
and
by
the
way,
the
skew
the
the
numbers
skew
very
heavily
towards
men
as
well
for
for
users
on
on
on
the
spin
scooters,
you
know
we're
not
we're
we're
not
talking
about
parents
with
kids,
we're
not
talking
about
people
with
groceries,
we're
not
talking
about
the
elderly.
We're
not
you
know,
and-
and
these
are
the
folks
that
need
that
last
mile
service.
So
when
we're
talking
about
last
mile
Mobility
I
think
we
really
need
to
be.
A
We
really
need
to
start
with,
with
with
the
the
people
that
that
need
it.
Rather
than
putting
a
solution
and
saying:
oh,
you
know
this
because
it's
it's
not
for
them
right,
like
scooters,
are
not
for
people
who
who
really
need
Last,
Mile,
mobility
and
and
the
numbers
you
know
about.
You
know
if
33
of
the
time
they
use
them
to
replace
car
trips
again,
I
would
be
curious
about
that.
I.
Get
it's
really
about
these
numbers
right
like
was
that
just
a
button
that
you
click
like?
A
A
We're
really
here
to
ask
the
the
the
tough
questions
and
dig
down
into
well
what
what
do
these
numbers
really
say,
and
sometimes
that
means
sort
of
delving
into
the
appendix
and
and
whatnot
for
the
sidewalk
accessibility
and
I
apologize
I.
Just
you
know,
I'm
just
kind
of
going
through
my
thoughts
and
and
my
notes.
Yes,
we
have
cars
all
over
our
sidewalks.
That's
that's
such
a
terrible
problem.
It's
an
awful
problem,
and-
and
but
but
entering
into
this,
like
what
about
is
as
a
justification
for
scooters
right.
A
You
know
just
saying:
well,
there's
cars
on
the
sidewalk:
that's
not
a
justification
for
having
scooters
on
the
sidewalk
right.
They
they
are.
They
are
ex.
You
know
two
separate
issues
and
they
both
need
to
be
addressed,
but
it
is
not
an
excuse
for
the
Scooters
or
or
like
well,
you
know
the
scooters
aren't
so
bad
compared
to
the
carts.
The
cars
are
terrible.
You
know
I
I,
I
I,
concur
yeah,
so
the
the
price
and
and
also
the
accountability
for
spin.
A
At
the
end
of
the
day,
there
really
isn't
any
right,
because
all
of
the
means
of
of
penalizing
misuse
of
the
scooters
results
in
more
money
for
spin
right
like
if,
if
someone
is
fined,
that's
a
spin
user,
that's
fine
and
that
money
goes
to
spin.
A
If,
if
311
is
called,
there's
I
think
it's
10
cents,
I
can't
remember,
but
it
go.
It
doesn't
go
back
into
you
know
it
doesn't
go
to
bus
infrastructure,
it
doesn't
go
to
sidewalks.
It
goes
back
into
expanding
the
spin
program
and
improving
the
spin.
So
it's
like
the
spins
actually
benefiting
ultimately
from
all
of
the
all
of
the
problems
right.
The
financially
benefiting
from
and
I
would
really
love
to
see
the
numbers
on
how
many
users
have
actually
been
suspended
as
a
percentage
of
of
total
users.
A
That
was
not
a
number
that
was
in
in
the
report
you
know,
and-
and
so
you
know,
I
mean
just
to
put
into
perspective.
A
If
I
park
in
a
handicapped
spot
right,
I
get
a
250
ticket,
so
is
spin
open
to
a
250
dollar
fine.
Every
time
a
scooter
is
blocking
it
right
away,
because,
if
you're
open
to
back,
if
you're
open
to
that,
which
is
the
same
penalty
that
I
face
for
for
for
impeding
on
the
accessibility
of
of
of
a
disabled
person,
you
know,
then
maybe
we
could
talk,
but
that's
a
pretty
steep
penalty
from
a
business
perspective.
You
know
so
but
again,
these
are
the
questions.
A
These
are
the
questions
that
that
we
need
to
be
asking
you
know
and
is
spin
interested
in
that
kind
of
accountability
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
you
know
finally,
as
far
as
the
legislation
in
Harrisburg,
which
I
don't
have
any
control
over.
Obviously,
but
it's
sort
of
interesting
that
the
overall
scooters
are,
are
you
know
they're
I,
guess
they're
illegal
statewide
right,
but
this
pilot
programs,
but
you
know,
as
we
heard
from
our
researcher
in
Zurich,
individual
scooters.
A
A
You
know
that's
like
a
hundred
trips
on
a
spin
scooter,
that's
a
hundred
trips
1.5
mile
trips
and
you
got
your
own
scooter
and
you're
not
going
to
leave
your
own
scooter
in
the
sidewalk
right,
you're,
not
going
to
leave
your
own
scooter
right
so
and
and
that
sort
of
gets
rid
of
all
of
our
issues,
at
least
the
ones
that
I've
heard
about
today.
So
again,
you
know
something
to
think
about,
and
then
you
know
finally
just
sort
of
looking
at
other
cities.
A
You
know
like
what
what's
the
benefit
like
I
get
scooter
spin
scooters
are
fun:
I,
I,
I
I,
don't
believe
that
they
are
a
commuter
option.
I,
don't
believe
that
they
are
something
that
that
increases
that
they
are
quote
a
cause
for
social
justice,
as
the
last
I
mean
I.
Think
you
can
see
from
the
audience
here
that
that
you
know
people
coming
to
speak
out
against
them.
They
they
are
not
a
quote
cause
for
social
justice,
but
you
know
what
is
the
benefit
for
Pittsburgh?
A
You
know
in
Austin
scooter
fees
generated
over
a
million
dollars
for
the
City
of
Austin,
not
bad
right
in
2022
Chicago
stood
to
earn
about
4
million
from
permit
fees
off
of
its
scooter
programs
and
Riders
who
rent
the
two
will
and
the
writers.
A
All
you
know,
there's
a
nine
percent
lease
tax
as
well
right,
so
that
that's
big
money
for
the
city,
we're
not
seeing
that
here
in
Pittsburgh,
I
think
what
was
the
permit
was
like
150
or
something
yeah,
you
know,
and
in
other
cities
you
know,
Paris
just
decided
89
of
Voters
just
decided
to
get
rid
of
them
right.
That.
A
A
You
know
and
I'll
I'll
stop
because
I
know
everyone's
tired,
exhausted
and
I'll.
Let
last
standing
members
speak
as
well.
You
know
in
a
perfect
world
we
would
have
every
kind
of
Mobility
option
fun
options,
whatever
options,
whatever
we
needed
to
get
around
town
right
in
a
perfect
world,
but
and
and
of
course
not
every
mode
of
transportation
has
to
be
accessible
to
everyone.
That's
that's
true
right,
but
the
time
and
but
you
know
we
don't
live
in
a
perfect
world.
A
We
have
terrible
Mobility
problems
in
this
city
and
this
solution,
which
we're
spending
so
much
time
and
effort
on
really
helps
the
people
who
need
it.
The
least
you
know,
and
so
I
I
think
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
governing
by
the
philosophy
of
when
we
take
care
of
our
most
vulnerable
when
we
focus
on
our
most
vulnerable.
That
is
the
thing
that
improves
the
quality
of
life
for
everyone,
and
this
scooter
program
is
not
doing
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
right.
A
It
is,
it
is
not,
it
is
in
fact
it
is
leaving
or
is
harming
our
most
vulnerable,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
I'll.
Let
other
members
go
ahead.
Oh.
A
Okay,
Verna
Johnson,
sorry.
AP
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
realize
that
some
people
use
the
scooters
and
some
people
will
never
be
able
to
use
them.
I
wish
there
was
a
happy
medium,
but
I'm,
not
sure
that
there
is.
AP
My
name
is
Vernon
Johnson
I
live
in
East
Liberty,
but
it's
better
known
as
Lincoln
Livingston
Belmar
scooters
can
be
useful
if
you
can
walk
and
run
a
disabled
person
cannot
use
them.
They
are
not
safe
for
children
so
who
are
they
really
for?
AP
They
lay
across
the
sidewalk
right
in
the
way
for
days.
Why
does
the
company
that
owns
these
scooters
collect
them
within
24
hours,
I
and
others
have
to
leave
the
sidewalk
and
walk
in
the
street
to
go
around
them
and
if
I
have
my
rule
later,
that's
kind
of
inconvenient
people
usually
leave
them
not
that
far
away
from
their
homes
when
they
are
abandoned
them,
select
something
or
use
a
product
to
for
everyone
around
us.
So
we
can
all
use
something.
AP
I
mean
it's
just
unfortunate
that
the
rest
of
the
society
is
left
out
when
it
comes
to
these
scooters.
I've
seen
scooters
abandoned
in
Lots
on
their
sides
and
many
other
places
wondering
why
hasn't
this
company
come
and
pick
them
up,
I
mean
they
rather
penalize
the
person
each
day
than
pick
up
the
product.
AP
AP
AP
L
L
First
of
all,
Alyssa
Alicia
Elisa,
okay,
Elisa!
This
is
my
main
concern.
Okay,
I
have
two
people
living
in
my
neighborhood
Who
report
to
me
who
are
confined
to
a
wheelchair
and
what's
that,
what
is.
L
L
L
This
is
my
number
one
concern
when
these
things
are
laying
on
the
sidewalks
I
get
up
and
move
them
every
time
if
I'm
riding
by
I
see
one
on
the
sidewalk
I
move
it,
because
not
only
people
in
wheelchairs
but
baby
carriages,
you
name
it
I,
don't
want
people
going
out
into
the
street
around
them
to
get
around
so
I
hear
you
on
that,
and
it's
my
top
concern
about.
It.
L
I
think
the
best
idea,
I
heard
here
today
was
like
the
bikes.
They
have
to
go
back
to
a
port
and
then
they
have
to
be
charged.
Then
we
wouldn't
have
these
laying
on
our
sidewalks
and
everywhere
and
I
applaud
our
director's
efforts
to
bring
in
any
mode
of
transportation,
alternative
modes
of
transportation,
I
believe
it's
good
in
some
parts
of
the
city,
I
believe
there's
some
good
things
and
some
bad
things
I
think
we
have
to
reevaluate
before
we
decide
to
continue
or
not.
L
The
pilot
and
many
of
these
things
like
I,
said
whether
it's
making
sure
they
go
to
a
portal
where
they're
not
strewn
Upon,
Our
sidewalks
and
in
the
Middle
Street
and
in
people's
yards.
Sometimes
that's
the
best
alternative
I
can
hear
I,
don't
know
if
that's
possible
Jason.
We
can
talk
about
that.
You
know
at
another
time,
Nadia
I,
don't
know
what
janky
is,
but
I
think
I
can
figure
that
out.
You
know
we
could
I
believe
I
know
the
description,
but
you
know
you
bring
up
a
good
point.
L
You
know
people
who
can't
afford
a
smartphone
can't
afford
can't
ride
the
scooters
and
I
didn't
even
think
about
that
until
you
came
in
today,
so
I
appreciate
that
point,
our
bus
driver.
Thank
you
for
what
you
do.
Prt
I
know.
You
know
they
received
criticism
by
some
folks
in
this
room,
but
for
the
most
part,
I
think
Catherine,
Kellerman
and
PRT
does
a
really
good
job.
Can
we
use
increased
Services?
Of
course
we
can.
Would
we
like
to
see
it?
You
know
Run
Around,
the
Clock
Saturday
and
Sunday.
L
You
know-
and
we
were
talking
earlier
yesterday
with
Jason-
and
you
know
and
and
spin-
and
my
question
was
this-
you
know:
does
it
cost
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
any
money?
No,
it
doesn't
do
we
receive
any
funds?
L
No,
we
don't
it's
not
even
profitable
to
spend,
but
as
I
sit
here
and
we've
been
here
for
four
or
five
hours
now,
we've
had
at
least
15
people
here
from
the
Council
Office
alone,
we're
on
the
taxpayers
I'm
here,
let's
face
it,
you're
paying
our
salary
to
be
here
so
I
can
make
the
argument
that
it
does
cost
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
money.
It
costs
us
money.
L
We
had
to
have
this
here
and
I
thought
it
was
very
important,
I'm
glad
the
councilwoman
called
for
it,
but
to
say
it
doesn't
cost
us
money,
it
costs
us
time
and
money
right
here.
I
could
be
at
a
dozen
other
things
fixing
looking
at
other
problems
within
my
neighborhood,
so
it
does
cost
us
money.
There
is
and
we
are
liable
to
a
certain
degree
for
anything.
L
We
haven't
come
across
that
yet
thank
goodness,
but
the
minute
that
there's
an
accident
the
minute
somebody
does
a
header
who's,
not
wearing
a
helmet
and
loses
their
life
or
ends
up
with
serious
hospital
bills.
Well,
the
city's
going
to
be
a
Target,
it's
been
the
city
or
anybody
else.
They
can
sue
because
that's
what
the
attorneys
will
do.
They
need
to
reimburse
their
their
funds.
So
so
I'm,
not
here
to
say,
I,
want
to
eliminate
and
get
rid
of
spin
I
do
believe
they
serve
a
purpose
in
certain
parts
of
the
city.
L
I
think
in
my
part
of
the
city
I
doubt,
and
we
we're
not
able
to
narrow
that
down
as
to
like
how
many
people
use
it
to
commute
to
work.
In
my
part,
my
district
I
would
say
that
percentage
is
very,
very
low.
It's
more
about
joyriding.
It
might
have
a
higher
percentage
of
writing
it
to
transportation.
That
makes
sense
so
I
think
we
need
to
reevaluate
it.
First
and
foremost,
we
need
to
get
them
off.
The
sidewalks
need
to
get
them
off
the
streets.
We
can't
have
them
in
the
way
of
the
buses.
L
We
can't
have
them
in
the
way
of
people
with
baby
carriages
or
wheelchairs
that
if
we
can't
solve
that
problem,
then
maybe
I'll
be
in
the
London
89
percent.
Was
it
London,
Paris
Okay?
So
so
that's
just
my
thoughts
on
it.
I
sincerely
want
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
down
here.
It's
really
good
for
me
to
hear
your
perspective
and
you
know,
especially
as
we
move
forward
and
decide
whether
we're
going
to
continue
to
Pilot
or
not.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
business.
AQ
Councilman
gross,
thank
you
councilwoman
and
thank
you,
everybody
for
all
of
your
comments.
I
took
notes
on
everything
you
said:
I
had
scheduled
call
that
I
had
to
make,
but
I'm
grateful
to
be
able
to
come
back
and
and
you're
still
here
so
I
had
questions
also
that
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
answers
to
that.
AQ
I
wasn't
able
to
ask
at
the
post
agenda
section,
which
is
I,
think
I,
think
council
members
questions
were
good
and
Camp
covered
a
lot
of
the
areas
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
and
what
we
heard
from
public.
Testimony,
too,
is
that
I
think
it
was
really
elegantly
stated
that
we're
if
our
goal
like
what
are
our
goals
right,
what
are
our?
AQ
What
are
we
trying
to
achieve
and
then
how
do
we
know
where
we
are
and
then
how
do
we
measure
where
we,
how
we
get
there
and
if
we're
trying
to
increase,
increase
and
I
think
it
was
clever
of
people
to
say
it's,
two
different
things
to
be
talking
about:
equity
and
accessibility,
they're,
not
necessarily
always
the
same
thing
right,
but
if
we're
trying
to
increase
both
of
those
and
we're
decreasing
it.
But
in
this
Same
by
the
same
effort,
then
that's.
This
is
not
good
enough
right.
We
need
to.
AQ
So
I
think
that
gives
us
a
lot
to
work
on
I
I
know
there
were
some
questions
about
the
contract
versus
permit
I'm,
glad
that
those
questions
were
asked
and
answered,
and
so
just
to
reiterate,
we
were
told
in
the
post
agenda
section
that
there
was
a
permit
for
operations
issued
and
then
Council
only
kind
of
voted
on
the
pilot
program,
and
so
we
did
a
little
research,
because
you
know
there's
a
lot
here
that
Council
didn't
get
to
vote
on.
Frankly,
and
so
we're
told
that
you
know
this.
AQ
It
was
very
specific
that
in
the
answer
that
the
city
has
not
exchanged
any
funds,
well,
somebody's
exchanging
funds
somewhere
and
the
whole
point
of
city
government
is
that
it's
supposed
to
happen
at
this
table
and
nowhere
else,
so
I
I
still
have
kind
of
larger
questions.
That
I
think
we
should
continue
to
talk
about
about
what
is
move
PGH?
How
did
it
get
created
who's
putting
money
into
it?
Why
is
Domi
doing
work
with
move
PGH?
We
never
authorized
that.
AQ
We
never
had
the
discussions.
We
didn't
get
to
weigh
the
Prof,
the
you
know,
costs
and
benefits,
and
and
why
is
it
there
and
where
is
it,
and
how
are
those
payrolls
getting
paid
right
because
it
has
employees,
and
so
who
is
funding
that
and
then
so
it's
just
there's
just
a
lot
there.
That
is
not
okay,
that
we
don't
know
the
answers
to
that
right
and
and
there's
probably
questions
I
haven't
even
thought
of,
and
that's
that's.
AQ
The
work
that
gets
done
here
at
this
table
is
that
we
put
our
minds
together
with
our
residents
and
we,
you
know
we
learned
and
we
learned,
which
are
the
important
questions
to
ask.
So
I
still
I,
don't
think
I'm
comfortable
with
that
I'm
glad
that
people
brought
up
the
state
law
and
I
think
if
I
caught
it.
We
talked
about
how
state
law
was
changed
to
allow
this
pilot,
but
I,
don't
think
we.
AQ
We
stated
clearly
enough
it
to
my
understanding
that
state
laws
still
prohibits
you
from
having
your
own
scooter
right,
and
so
it
only
allows
this
corporate
pilot,
and
so
that's
odd
frankly
so
I
still
think
there's
just
a
lot
of
more
discussion.
So
thank
you
much
councilwoman
for
opening
the
discussion
and
thank
you
to
everybody
for
Lending
us
your
time,
energy
and
intellects
and
brain
cells
in
all
different
ways,
to
help
us
kind
of
learn.
What's
going
on
here
and
and
figure
out
what
the
right
questions
are.
AQ
We
very
often
say
it
and
I'll
say
it
once
again,
especially
with
technology,
as
things
are
changing
really
quickly.
It's
really
what's
important,
like
we
get
a
lot
of
help
from
residents,
helping
us
to
know
kind
of
what
to
keep
on
top
of
it
and
we
need
to
continue
looking
at
it
and
having
those
discussions,
because
the
the
goal
folks
keep
changing
and
the
mediums
and
modes
and
data
keep
changing,
so
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
AQ
A
Yeah
so
I
just
I,
you
know
having
exhausted
all
the
speakers.
I
I
will
adjourn
me.
I
do
want
to
say
there
were
a
number
of
folks
that
had
to
leave
for
child
care
reasons,
including
councilwoman
strasberger,
director
Lucas,
so
you
know
just
they.
They
stuck
it
out
until
The,
Bitter
End.
So
ever
you
know
I'm
familiar
with
that
feeling.
So
I
will
adjourn
this
now.
Thank
you
so
much
to
everybody
truly
for
coming.
This
is
you've
sat
here.
The
whole
time.
I
really
really
appreciate
it.