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A
And
we
welcome
you
back
to
another
issue
of
black
pittsburgh
matters.
Black
pittsburgh
matters
is
a
series
of
virtual
town
hall
meetings,
affirming
a
city-wide
agenda
that
black
pittsburgh
does
indeed
matter.
Black
pittsburgh
matters
means
that
black
lives
matter.
It
means
we
must
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
black
people.
It
means
black
communities
matter.
We
must
rebuild
and
invest
in
black
communities,
and
it
means
that
black
wealth
matters
increasing
black
employment
and
entrepreneurial
matters.
B
Normally
in
times
of
crisis
and
great
change,
we've
been
coming
to
you
as
the
black
elected
officials
of
pittsburgh
and
having
meetings
across
the
city
with
our
constituents,
partners
and
allies.
Since
we
cannot
do
that
safely
in
the
current
pandemic,
we're
now
using
this
media
and
platform
to
come
to
you
in
the
ways
that
we
can
to
talk
about
what
we're
doing
and
discuss
policy
and
legislation
concerning
black
pittsburgh.
B
These
meetings
will
be
available
via
facebook
youtube
and
the
city's
cable
channel.
You
can
contact
or
ask
questions
tonight
via
the
black
pittsburgh
matters.
Facebook
page
or
you
can
email
us
at
blackpgh
matters
that
black
pg8
matters
at
gmail.com
and
you
can
send
us
messages
through
facebook
or
email
even
right
now.
Today's
town
hall
meeting
topic
is
emerging
voices,
young,
black
pittsburgh.
A
A
However,
due
to
our
new
economy
in
the
in
our
new
burgeoning
industries,
there
has
been
an
influx
of
new
young
families
moving
into
the
city,
the
majority
of
which
are
white,
and
unfortunately,
due
to
these
emerging
economies,
there's
also
been
an
exodus
of
low-income
black
pittsburgh,
as
they
cannot
afford
to
keep
up.
We
are
bleeding
black
and
poor
people,
while
gaining
young
white
middle-class
and
wealthy
people,
and
I
believe
our
black
population
is
now
down
to
somewhere
around
27
percent.
A
B
Now,
rebuilding
pittsburgh
won't
look
like
the
pittsburgh
of
the
past.
It
would
look
very
different,
even
as
we
rebuild
black
communities,
they
will
look
and
feel
very
different.
The
old
heron
avenue
business
district,
the
old
center
avenue
business
district
and
the
home
would
have
new
business
districts
are
all
gone.
The
new
communities
will
be
less
dense,
more
diverse
and
much
more
ecologically
friendly.
The
steel
mills
are
gone,
they're
never
coming
back.
B
Today's
worker
will
use
as
much
brain
as
they
use
broad,
but
it's
our
hope
and
our
resolve
to
ensure
that
this
new
pittsburgh
prioritized
and
protects
black
lives,
black
wealth
and
black
communities
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
daniel.
I
I
have
a
question
for
you.
I
know
my
father
lived
to
be
92
and
you
know
when
we
would
go
to
sometimes
to
east
liberty
or
to
places
that
had
been.
You
know
significantly
changed
he's.
He
just
couldn't
imagine
how
it
was
how
it
was
so
different
from
the
pittsburgh
members
is.
A
Yeah,
it's
it's
even
true.
For
me.
To
be
quite
honest,
I
left
pittsburgh
in
1995
moved
back
in
2002
and
the
city
I
moved
away
from
to
to
the
one
that
I
returned
is
drastically
different.
Many
of
my
friends
who
also
left
also
went
to
other
atlanta
dc
places
of
that
nature.
The
east
liberty
that
I
knew
growing
up
where
I
could
walk
down
penn
avenue
and
buy
my
tennis
shoes.
A
My
boots,
my
books,
my
cds,
my
bootleg,
dvds
and
cds,
all
on
the
same
table
when
he's
liberty,
all
that
is
now
gone
and
some
what
some
viewed
as
bad.
What
others
viewed
as
vibrant
at
the
time
no
longer
exists.
A
lot
of
the
clubs
and
things
have
has
really
changed.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
young
black
people
are
making
it
in
our
city
now,
but
it'll
be
interesting
to
ask
them.
B
Even
for
my
my
you
know
my
children,
you
know
I
have
my
my
my
sons
and
daughter
are
grown,
but
when
I
was
their
age
there
were,
you
know,
lots
of
nightclubs.
Back
in
the
day
when
I
used
to
go
to
nightclubs,
there
were,
you
know:
lots
of
black
bars
black
nightclubs,
the
the
nightlife,
the
jazz
life
was
vibrant.
A
So
the
first
person
I
see
on
my
screen
is
mr
burley,
so
I'll
actually
start
with
you,
when
you
wrote
your
book
one
of
the
things
it
did
for
me,
I
was
really
excited
when
I
saw
it
come
out,
mainly
because
so
often
we
hear
about
sort
of
the
negative
aspects
of
what
it
means
to
be
black
in
pittsburgh,
but
your
book
really
highlighted
and
provided
an
example
of
the
exemplary
things
that
many
young
black
folk
are
doing
in
pittsburgh.
Some,
but
I
never
asked
you
this,
I'm
actually
curious.
A
E
No,
I
appreciate
you
guys
for
having
me,
but
I
definitely
can
answer
that.
That's
a
good
one,
one
of
the
fun
things
when
we
talk
about
why
the
book
was
written,
the
book
was
written
for
our
kids
right
and
growing
up.
I've
always
been
a
part
of
mentoring.
I've
always
mentored
right
working
with
the
next
generation,
always
trying
to
pour
back
into
kids
and
one
of
the
really
good
things
that
we
saw
was
that
you
know
traditionally
for
our
kids.
E
They
didn't
see
a
lot
of
people
who
look
like
them
from
where
they're
from
succeeding
in
the
ways
that
they
always
thought
that
they
could
so
one
of
the
purposes
of
the
book
was
really
more
than
anything
else
was
to
give
them
that
level
of
representation
and
also
in
doing
so,
you
know
showing
them
different
avenues
that
they
may
not
have
been
exposed
to
or
think
that
we're
really
for
them.
What
did
I
learn
from
it?
You
know
we
could
write
young
black
pittsburgh
volume,
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
nine
ten!
E
B
Community,
so
the
rest
of
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
what
it's
like
working
as
a
young
black
profession,
professional
here
in
pittsburgh.
All
of
you
have
had
success
in
your
career,
but
tell
me
what
that's
like
for
you
and
for
your
family.
Some
of
you,
you
know
felicia.
You
know
my
children
went
to
school
with
my
kids,
so
I'm
curious.
I
have
their
perspective,
but
I
wonder
what
your
perspective
is.
It
was
like
being
young,
black
and
educated
here
in
pittsburgh,.
C
So
I'll
start,
I
think
it
is.
It
has
its
challenges,
so
there
are
certainly
some
tensions
in
the
region.
You
guys
in
your
introduction
we're
talking
about
kind
of
the
exodus
how
we're
bleeding
black
people.
At
the
same
time,
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
certain
organizations
around
black
professionals
and
increasing
their
presence,
and
I
think
that
those
two
tensions
together
make
it
very
interesting
to
be
a
young
black
professional
in
pittsburgh.
C
I
think
we
have
to
think
outside
of
our
own
personal
experiences,
because
we
are
the
minority
of
black
pittsburgh
based
on
all
of
the
studies
based
on
on
what
we
know,
and
so
I
think
that
that
is
presents
its
own
set
of
challenges
and
we
have
to.
While
we
are
all
seeing
success,
as
you
said,
be
mindful
of
the
rest
of
black
pittsburgh
and
what
is
happening
in
the
region
as
well.
B
F
Into
that,
thanks
again
everyone
for
having
me,
but
I
do
like
that
point
of
we
do
have
to
not
look
at
our
life
journey
alone.
Something
I
do
see
the
positive
of
is
that
you
know
it
seems
like
we're
trailer,
blazers
a
lot
of
to
brian's
point
a
lot
of
us,
those
those
folks
inside
his
book
are
trailblazers
and
so
we're
really
making
this
lane
for
the
next
generation
to
step
up
and
have
an
opportunity
at
the
table.
So
it's
just.
F
How
do
we
proactively
make
sure
that
our
youth
is
trained
correctly,
that
they
know
how
to
network
and
things
like
that,
so
once
we
bring
them
to
the
table,
you
know
the
hiring
manager
can't
give
them
a
no,
but
it's
more.
So
how
can
you
so?
I
do
think
that
picks
work
is
turning
that
corner
to
welcome
more
talent,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
when
they
get
that
opportunity,
they
get
it
and
then
they
maximize
that.
D
And
I'll
echo
that
as
well,
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today,
so
just
growing
up
in
pittsburgh,
leaving
for
a
little
while
then
coming
back.
D
What
it
really
exposed
to
me
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
difficulties
advancing
as
a
young
black
female
in
pittsburgh
and
trying
to
make
it
to
that
next
level,
so
just
kind
of
figuring
out
ways
to
navigate
the
nepotism
that
exists
in
this
city
has
been
a
challenge
and
I
think
for
all
of
us
we're
constantly
trying
to
prove
to
everybody
and
to
ourselves
why
we
stay
here
in
pittsburgh.
D
After
reports
come
out
that
lists
pittsburgh
as
the
worst
place
for
african-american
advancement
or
the
worst
place
for
black
women
or
the
worst
place
for
black
children
and
we're
constantly
having
to
make
reasons
and
opportunities
out
of
these
depressing
inequities.
D
B
So
can
you
talk
more,
you
talk
about
neptune.
This
is
open
for
all
of
you,
so
let's
go
at
this
a
little
bit.
Why
do
you?
Why
do
you
think
pittsburgh's
not
bad?
What
is
it
about
pittsburgh?
You
know:
we've
we've
seen
the
numbers,
but
let's
talk
about
what
what
do
you
think
contributes
to
this
status
of
being
one
of
the
worst
places
in
the
country
for
black
people
and
then
on
the
other
side?
What
do
you
think
what
changes
do
you
think
we
need
to
make.
F
I
I
think
for
me,
look
we
are
a
city
of
bridges
right,
which
is
like
ironic,
because
nobody
ever
crosses
those
bridges,
so
I
think
the
connectivity
sometimes
is
a
struggle.
What
I
find
myself
doing
a
lot
is
like
I've
never
grown
up
in
this
place,
where
I
was
one
spot
at
one
time
and
only
had
one
set
of
friends.
My
parents
definitely
poured
into
me
to
kind
of
be
a
connector
of
all
communities,
so
I
think
like
that
is
something
that
you
know
in
black.
F
D
I
think,
what's
also
really
interesting
to
go
off
of
that
point
of
bridging
people
together
is
the
fact
that
pittsburgh
has
always
lost
a
big
portion
of
our
college
students,
and
so
we
have
a
population,
especially
within
our
minority
and
black
population.
D
That
is
made
up
of
transplants,
so
people
that
we
are
bringing
in
from
other
cities
to
be
successful
in
hiring
into
high
high
level
senior
positions
in
pittsburgh,
and
then
we
also
have
our
native
pittsburghers,
who
have
been
here,
never
had
opportunities
to
leave
or
just
didn't
choose
to
leave,
and
then
we
also
have
our
boomerangs
people
like
myself,
who
have
left
for
a
little
while
for
work,
opportunities
and
also
dan.
D
You
mentioned
leaving
and
coming
back,
and
I
think,
there's
some
unspoken
conflict
between
these
three
sets
of
young
black
pittsburghers
we're
just
not
talking
to
each
other
there's.
D
You
know
we
talk
about
nepotism,
a
little
bit
back
to
your
point:
ricky
there's
a
difficulty
with
communicating
with
each
other
what
our
advantages
are
and
what
some
of
our
disadvantages
are
being
from
these
very
specific
groups
of
native
born
transplant
and
boomerang,
and
I
think
we
really
need
to
find
out
what
our
common
ground
is
and
leverage
each
other's
skills
being
from
these
different
groups,
and
I
think
that
would
help
out
some
of
the
nepotism
that
keeps
some
of
the
doors
closed
to
higher
opportunities
in
pittsburgh.
C
I'll
take
a
little
bit
of
a
different
perspective
on
it,
though
I
agree,
absolutely
I'm
a
boomeranger
as
well.
If
I
can
make
that
into
a
word
on
here,
I'll
say
two
things
I
think
so
one
will
be
that
despite
pittsburgh,
having
some
labels
of
being,
you
know
the
best
place
to
live
in
a
very
progressive
city,
it
is
still
entrenched
in
systems
of
the
old
boys
network
which
have
roots
in
our
industrial.
You
know
complex
here
that
built
pittsburgh
and
that
those
roots
exclude
largely
excluded
black
folks.
C
I
think
that
we
still
see
very
much
in
pittsburgh
and
I'll
tie
that
into
my
next
point
that,
even
though
we
may
see
progress
happening
at
our
different
government
levels,
that
alone
is
not
sufficient,
and
I
often
have
this
conversation
with
councilman
lavelle
about
you
know
the
role
of
government
versus
also
the
role
of
our
regional
institutions,
and
so
sometimes
you
see
that
those
regional
institutions
are
not
moving
at
the
same
rate
as
government,
even
when
we
may
feel
like
government
isn't
moving
fast
enough
or
progressive
enough
for
what
we
want
to
see,
and
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things,
because
we
have
so
many
large
regional
institutions
that
either
are
major
job
providers
as
well.
C
That's
a
factor,
and
then
lastly
I'll
say.
I
think
one
of
the
things
is
that
we
don't
have
a
large
black
business
community
in
pittsburgh.
We
can't
identify
one
neighborhood
in
pittsburgh
that
has
a
thriving
black
business
district.
We
have
pockets
and
it's
spread
out,
but
that
means
then
that
a
lot
of
our
black
residents
are
dependent
upon
jobs
through
found
through
philanthropic,
supportive
jobs,
so
nonprofit
jobs
which
come
with
their
own.
C
You
know
challenges
as
well
as
a
government-related
jobs,
and
so
you
see
a
lot
of
our
black
residents
are
focused
in
those
two
sectors,
and
I
think
that
that
imbalance
of
not
having
the
the
black
businesses,
though
we
are
improving
in
that
area.
Certainly
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
who
are
black
entrepreneurs.
C
It
is
one
of
the
reasons.
Also
that's
holding
pittsburgh
back
black
kids
were
back.
A
So
so
stay
there,
if
you
will
felicity,
because
part
of
what
you
do
is
public
policy
work
folks,
especially
focus
around
racial
and
economic
justice
and
you're
sitting
here
talking
to
two
policy
makers.
So
I'm
just
curious,
and
you
mentioned
that
government
is
making
some
progress
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
mentioned.
C
Yes,
so
one,
I
think
that
we're
starting
to
get
some
policy
framework
in
place,
for
example,
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
here
with
the
pittsburgh,
the
black
pittsburgh
matters,
and
I
will
continue
to
say
that
areas
of
workforce
development,
economic
development,
affordable
housing.
That
is
a
critical
issue
that
we
have
in
our
community
mbe
participation,
things
related
to
that
and
the
economic
empowerment
are
critical
policy
items
that
we
need
to
see
even
more
progress
on.
We
are
seeing
priorities
even
more,
but
even
beyond
the
policy.
C
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
seeing
the
investments
that
the
investments
follow
the
policy,
it's
great
to
say,
to
affirm
that
black
pittsburgh
matters-
and
you
know
I've
had
this
conversation
with
you
all
before
too
I'm
thrilled
that
we
had.
We
were
able
to
pass
this
as
a
city
council,
but
if
that
does
not
follow
with
the
appropriate
levels
of
investment,
then
we
can't
see
the
implementation.
We
can't
move
past
task
forces
and
you
know
new
reports
and
and
new
agendas.
We've
got
to
actually
move
to
implementation.
C
We've
got
to
move
to
that
investment
and
I
think
that
used
to
your
point
about
the
foundations
and
the
other
anchor
institutions.
We've
got
to
have
our
high-ranking
elected
officials
using
their
bully
pulpit
right
to
pressure
these
regional
institutions
in
into
changing
policies
that
they
have
throughout
their
organizations.
E
So
I've
got
a
thought
to
that
too,
and
I
agree
honoring
10
percent.
Well,
what
felicity
said?
I
think
that
you
know
just
to
call
a
spay
to
stay
when
it
comes
down
to
pittsburgh
and
issues
of
equity
were
grossly
grossly
behind
right
and
also
on
top
of
being
grossly
behind
in
issues
of
equity.
The
investment
that
goes
towards
that
equity
is
also
grossly
behind.
E
E
The
other
piece
when
we
talk
about
public
private
partnership
and
when
we
talk
about
the
private
sector,
these
companies-
don't
you
know
they
don't
operate
any
further
without
minority
talent
without
black
talent
it
doesn't
it's
only
getting
more
populous
every
generation
that
goes
moving
forward
right,
we're
only
becoming
a
larger
portion
of
the
workforce,
we're
only
becoming
a
larger
portion
of
society,
we're
only
becoming
a
larger
portion
of
the
thought
process
and
how
things
work
excuse.
My
phone:
it's
the
only
way
that
things
work
right.
B
Well,
I
it's
interesting,
that's
you
know.
Councilman
lavelle
and
I
have
been
focused
on
bringing
resources,
so
I'm
glad
to
actually
hear
that,
but
let's,
let's
kind
of
take
a
let's
take
this
a
little
further.
This
summer,
the
black
lives
matter.
Movement
came
roaring
back
into
public
focus
with
the
unjust
killings
of
ahmad
arbury
george
floyd
and
brianna
taylor.
There's
been
a
great
deal
of
protesting
here
in
pittsburgh.
B
Frankly,
a
lot
of
it
being
actually
led
by
some
people
of
color,
but
also
a
lot
of
people
from
outside
our
community
and
so
as
as
young
black
people
that
demographic,
I
think
you
fit
the
demographic
of
many
of
the
protesters
which,
what's
your
view
well,
first
of
all,
what's
your
view
of
the
protest
in
the
city
and
whether
you
think
they
were
effective
and
appropriate
and
then
what's
your
view
of
race
relations
in
our
city?
B
Is
you
know,
councilman
leville
not
passed
legislation
saying
that
his
that
racism
is
a
public
health
crisis
in
in
pittsburgh
and
that
really
talks
about
institutional
racism.
But
do
you
feel
that
does
it
there's
the
atmosphere?
You
feel
that
there's
you
know
overt
racism
in
pittsburgh.
So
really
a
two-part
question
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
protest
and
your
view
of
that
and
then,
whether
or
not
you
think
that
racism,
not
just
structurally
but
does
it
exist
in
every
day,
pittsburgh.
C
So
I'll
jump
in
here
I
will
say
that
protest
is
a
critical
tool
in
the
toolkit
towards
any
form
of
liberation.
So,
specifically,
we're
talking
about
black
liberation.
Here
is
an
important
and
critical
component.
C
Obviously
I
come
from
a
background
in
which
I
believe
in
black
leadership,
for
black
related
black
issues,
and
so
that
is
something
I
will
always
strongly
advocate,
for
I
have
many
friends
who
are
leaders
amongst
black
activists
and
I
think
that
they
are
doing
some
phenomenal
work,
really
pushing
the
agenda
and
bringing
to
attention
what
is
happening
in
the
region,
where,
I
think
we're
having
an
issue
or
a
disconnect.
C
Is
that
I
don't
think
that
folks
who
are
in
position
power,
making
positions
are
necessarily
talking
to
the
actual
folks
who
are
on
the
ground
in
the
communities
doing
the
work.
I
think
that
we
sometimes
huddle
amongst
ourselves
kind
of
in
a
peripheral
layer
and
talk
to
folks
who
maybe
aren't
necessarily
connected
directly
to
what's
happening
on
the
ground
and
having
those
real
conversations,
and
that
may
mean
that
those
conversations
are
really
uncomfortable.
They
may
not
happen
in
the
way
that
you
think
they
should
happen.
C
I'm
not
referring
to
you
councilman
lavelle
or
councilman
burgess,
I'm,
the
general
you,
you
know
when
you're
dealing
with
people,
who
you
know
brian
you
mentioned
to
this
point:
pittsburgh
equity
is
on
equity,
is
so
bad
when
you're
dealing
with
people
who
have
for
so
long
been
in
a
situation
that
is
so
bad.
You
know,
I
don't
know
how
you
can
expect
why
there
are
any
expectations
around
some
of
that
level
of
engagement
or
not.
Leveling.
Excuse
me
how
people
engage.
C
I
think
that
they're
frustrated
they're
upset,
and
I
think
that
they're
justified
in
that,
and
so
I
think
that's
where
we're
having
a
disconnect
I'll
say
that
about
about
the
protest
and
then
I'll
I'll,
let
some
others
jump
in
and
I'll
come
back
to
the
second
part,
your
question
other
than
saying
in
short,
yes,
I
think
the
pittsburgh
absolutely
has
overt
racism
in
it.
E
E
E
You
know
racism
is
rooted
in
a
lack
of
information
right
and
when
you
combine
a
lack
of
information
with
a
lack
of
exposure,
it
only
spreads
right,
so
you
combine
racism
with
a
lack
of
exposure,
you're
getting
a
lot
of
uninformed
decisions
right
and
then,
if
they're,
not
an
uninformed
decision,
if
you
do
get
to
the
point
where
you
get
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
do
the
right
thing
or
they
see
things
that
they
even
in
themselves
right
now,
dean
is
bad
right
like
no.
This
is
wrong
right.
E
We
all
had
a
visceral
reaction
to
george
right
this
country,
this
world
had
a
visceral
reaction
to
what
happened
and
it
ignited
something
in
this
country
and
it
ignited
something
in
the
city.
I
hope
that
it's
sustainable
right,
where
that
type
of
reaction
can't
necessarily
just
be
something
that's
short-term
and
in
it
not
being
short-term.
We
have
to
take
advantage
of
the
moment
and
it
has
to
wake
people
up
to
the
point
where
they
say
like
hey
what's
going
on,
and
we
have
to
be
willing
to
have
those
uncomfortable
conversations
right.
D
Yeah,
I
agree
with
what
brian
is
saying,
and
I
think
that
everybody
really
does
have
their
part
to
play
with
protesting
or
standing
up
for
inequities
and
justice
in
the
region,
especially
for
our
black
citizens,
and
I-
and
I
agree
with
what
felicity
was
saying.
I
think
some
of
these
pieces
could
fit
together
into
the
puzzle
a
little
bit
better
and
communicate
with
each
other
a
little
bit
more.
D
But
what
works
for
me
might
not
work
for
somebody
else,
and
my
voice
might
not
be
the
right
voice
to
say
that
certain
to
talk
to
a
certain
audience,
but
I
can
sit
in
a
boardroom
and
I
can
talk
to
an
executive
about
why
diversity
matters
for
their
revenues,
and
I
can
talk
to
them
about
why
diversity
matters
for
their
for
the
social
good
of
our
community.
D
So,
like
I
said,
there's
something
that
everybody
can
do
and
I
think
we
all
have
to
stop
being
complacent,
because
complacency
makes
you
complicit
in
every
part
of
this
systemic
racism
that
is
plaguing
our
community,
and
I
also
believe
that
you
know
we
have
to
give
people
some
grace,
because
racial
justice
fatigue
is
real.
There's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
right
now
who
are
experiencing
overt
racism.
I've
had
experiences
of
being
called
racial,
slurs
and
sexist
slurs
just
at
a
protest
recently.
D
So
there
are
things
that
are
happening
constantly
that
are
exposing
us
to
high
trauma
and
our
you
know.
Other
people
have
to
step
in
and
take
the
will
for
some
for
some
of
the
time,
but
there's
something
that
we
really
need
to
address,
which
is
that
structural
racism
and
segregation
in
our
city-
and
I
can't
personally
afford
afford
to
stay
silent.
I
don't
have
the
convenience
and
the
privilege
to
to
be
quiet
on
issues
of
racism
and
intersectional
sexism
and
racism
together.
D
D
Yes,
I
mean
I've
been
at
my
new
role
at
vibrant
pittsburgh
for
about
three
months
and
we've
signed
up
over
a
dozen
new
companies
to
talk
about
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
and
that
are
making
real
investments
into
the
issues
of
creating
equity
for
the
black
and
brown
community
in
pittsburgh.
So
you
know
the
conversations
are
starting
and
people
can't
avoid
it
anymore.
B
F
Ideas,
yeah,
I
think
I
can
just
I
don't.
I
think
everybody
said
great
points
and
I
think
I'd
take
a
piece
from
each
one
of
them,
and
I
think
that
the
thing
I
would
say
is
like
protest,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
you
gotta
go
on
the
streets
and
like
do
that
right,
I
would
definitely
empower
people
like
a
protesters,
be
ready
to
give
answer
to
the
decision
makers
that
can
actually
alter
protest
from
ever
happening
again,
because
I
think
protests
it's
an
emotional
reaction
to
dropping
in
the
ball
consistently.
F
You
know-
and
I
think
that
since
we
as
a
generation
have
power
to
do
our
research
to
brian's
point
to
look
up
this
history,
you
can
literally
see.
However,
history
is
basically
repeating
itself.
So
when
do
we
decide
to
stop
history
from
repeating
itself,
and
it's
being
ready
being
equipped
being
bold
to
give
those
conversations
to
these
companies
owners,
ceos.
B
C
And
I'll
say
to
the
to
the
point
you
made
me:
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
it
was
joel
that
you
said
that
that
triggered
this
thought
in
my
mind,
but
you
talking
triggered
this
thought
in
my
mind,
specifically
related
to
overt
racism.
I
think
one
of
our
pitfalls
is
that
we
try
to
talk
about
people
in
terms
of
good
and
bad
we're,
like
oh
they're,
a
good
guy
right.
C
You
know,
and
I've
met
some
really
really
nice,
racists,
they've
actually
been
like
really
nice
to
me
and,
and
part
of
that,
I'm
sure
is,
is
rooted
in
you
know,
light-skinned
privilege
and
other
things
there
as
well.
But
you
know
I
talk
about
people
in
terms
of
their
actions
right,
so
are
you
taking
actions
or
not
even
taking
any
action,
because
not
taking
an
action
is
still
allowing
a
system
of
racism
to
be
perpetuated.
C
So
are
you
taking
actions
every
day
that
are
working
to
dismantle
white
supremacy,
racism
and
these
systems
of
oppression?
That
is
what
it
means
to
be
anti-racist
if
you're,
not
you're,
complicit
in
a
system
and
perpetuating
it,
and
so
I
think
when
you
talk
about
the
comfort,
that's
another
factor
here
about
the
comfort.
It's
like,
you
feel
comfortable
that
you
aren't
actively
doing
something
to
you
feel
like
to
be
racist.
Well,
you
not
being
active
in
dismantling
races.
G
F
Like
privilege,
but
that
answers
your
second
question
yeah
mr
purchase
is
like
yes,
racism.
F
Racism
exists
in
this
area
still
because,
like
I've
been
in
situations
where
I'm
not
black
enough
or
white
enough
right,
so
I've
always
had
to
play
that
middle
ground.
I'm
pretty
sure
each
one
of
us
I'm.
It
looks.
F
Sure
we
can
all
contest
to
that,
and
but
that's
that's
a
real
thing
in
this
area.
I
can't
say
I
ever
really
felt
that
if
I
travel
outside
the
city-
but
I
kind
of
use
that
for
my
power,
though,
because
it
puts
me
in
situations
where
I
can
talk
to
white
people
and
black
people
to
be
that
bridge
in
between.
So
you
know
as
long
as
I
can
get
past
a
little
dark
stuff
thrown
at
me
for
being
light-skinned.
I
think
I
can
also
be
a
be
a
voice
or
answer.
D
I
agree
with
that
too
joel.
I
think
that
it's
a
powerful
thing
to
be
able
to
use
your
privilege
and
recognize
what
privileges
you
do
have
and
it's
part
of
of
the
the
greater
good
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
I
think
also
there's
a
gender
aspect
too.
So
there's
some
times
where
my
gender
disadvantages
me,
but
there's
also
times
where
I
can
have
a
conversation
with
somebody
and
not
seem
threatening
to
them,
because
I
am
a
female
and
a
light-skinned
female
at
that.
D
But
if
brian
or
joel
might
have
approached
them,
it
might
be
a
whole
another
conversation.
So
there's
everything
there's
there
are
layers
to
our
identity
and
intersectionality
definitely
needs
to
be
considered
and
calculated
with
how
you
approach
different
folks
about
the
issues
of
racism
and
inequity.
C
You
made
a
really
good
point,
dina
about
and
and
joel
you're
talking
about
this
too,
about
leveraging
your
privilege,
though,
and
I
think
that's
like
when
I
talked
in
the
beginning
about
how
we
have
to
recognize
that
our
experiences
might
not
necessarily
be
we
know,
they're
not.
Let
me
say
that
we
know
they're
not
the
norm
of
your
black
pittsburgh
resident
and
at
the
same
time,
I
think
in
recognizing
that
that
means
that
we
have
to
when
gina.
C
You
talked
about
this
when
you're
in
a
room
and
you're
in
spaces
you're
advocating
for-
and
this
is
part
of
the
spectrum
of
tools
in
the
black.
You
know
liberation
toolkit
I'll
call
it
where
you
have
your
protests,
you
have
your
your
policy
advocates.
You
have
your
your
non-profit
leaders,
I
mean
there's
so
many
components
here
of
people
that
are
supporting
the
black
liberation,
and
so
that
is
something
that
I
take
very
seriously
is.
Is
our
responsibility
when
we're
in
those
spaces
to
to
have
things
flow
back
down?
A
So
brian,
a
couple
comments
back
mentioned
that
he
hopes
that
we
sort
of
stay
in
this
moment
that
we
don't
let
it
just
fizzle
out
and
I'm
curious,
because
both
reverend
burgess
and
myself
are
privileged
and
the
fact
that
we
are
elected
officials.
That
is
a
privilege
and
we're
able
to
utilize
that
to
hope
and
help
drive
resources
into
our
communities
and
hopefully
leverage
our
city's
budget
to
actually
better
our
community.
A
But
I'm
curious,
as
you
all
think,
how
do
we
continue
maintaining
the
progress
that
we're
making,
albeit
maybe
a
little
too
slow?
What
structural
things
do
you
all
think
need
to
be
in
place
for
us
to
ensure
that
this
moment
doesn't
simply
fizzle
out,
but
we
actually
are
able
to
maintain
this
work
and
keep
things
moving
forward
progressively.
E
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
talk
about
in
this
one
of
the
comments
that
we
had
prior
to
was
you
know.
Unfortunately,
I
think
that
any
city
in
the
country
is
at
risk
for
a
negative
police
event,
as
we
talk
about
investing
in
our
law
enforcement.
E
As
we
talk
about
the
idea
of
defunding
the
police,
as
we
talk
about
the
idea
of
race
relations
in
our
city,
our
relations
with
quote-unquote
peace
officers
and
the
way
that
we
invest
in
their
training
in
order
to
be
better
suited
to
not
be
afraid
when
you
see
me,
you
know
like
I've
had,
regardless
of
skin
tone
right,
and
I
do
recognize
light
skinned
privilege
like
without
question,
but
regardless
of
skin
tone.
I've
had
negative
encounters
with
the
police
right
like
regardless
taking
advantage
of
those
opportunities.
D
D
If
you
think
you
are
you're,
not
science
has
proved
that
we
take
cognitive
shortcuts
to
come
up
with
solutions
and
answers
and
to
pick
you
know,
the
next
person
we're
going
to
hire
and
to
pick
where
we're
going
to
eat
dinner,
we're
using
these
cognitive
shortcuts.
This
is
implicit
in
unconscious
bias.
D
This
is
not
something
that
can
really
be,
you
know
put
into
policy,
but
it's
something
that
we
can
all
take
responsibility
on
an
individual
level
to
educate
ourselves,
to
read
more,
to
get
to
know
more
people
outside
of
our
usual
group
to
explore
different
neighborhoods
and
really
try
to
find
out
what
we're
missing
out
on
you
know.
Some
people
say
that
they're
colorblind
or
that
they
don't
see
race
and
that
there's
no
issue
with
racism
and-
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
talk
about
why
that
statement
is
a
problem
in
itself.
C
D
Is
it's
so
scary,
because
if
you
don't
see
my
race,
then
you
can't
appreciate
who
I
am
as
a
person
and
then,
whenever
I
try
to
point
out
in
equities
based
off
of
my
socio-racial
gender
background,
you
can't
see
that
you
can't
form
an
opinion
based
off
of
the
collectiveness
of
who
I
am
so
I
I
do
think
that
there
are
probably
some
things
that
policy
can
affect
effect
and
maybe
felicity
can
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
more,
but
she
already
has,
but
I
think
it's
really
about
taking
individual
responsibility.
D
I
think
that
some
of
the
responsibility
does
fall
on
our
pillar
organizations
to
do
some
more
some
work
in
the
community
and
to
build
more
pipelines
and
to
reevaluate
their
hiring
practices
to
make
sure
that
they're
more
equitable
and
accessible
for
everybody,
but
but
as
far
as
policy.
D
And
we
look
at
the
news
today
and
we
see
one
of
the
top
leading
technology
companies
in
the
united
states
being
investigated
for
racism
because
they
want
to
hire
more
black
executives.
So
we're
in
a
really
curious
time.
Right
now
and-
and
I
think
the
the
main
way
to
get
past.
This
is
for
us
to
see
each
other
as
individuals
and
to
recognize
our
own
autonomy
to
make
a
difference.
B
So
another
thing
I
want
to
sort
of
ask
about,
in
addition
to
race
relations
is
codec
19
and
you
know,
comic
19
has
really
really
put
a
a
damper
in
I'm,
assuming
I'm
not
sure
how
many
of
you
are
are
married,
but
if
you're
as
my
you
know,
I
have
one
of
my
four
children,
all
adults,
only
one
of
them
is
married,
and
so
their
social
life
has
been
dramatically
different.
You
know,
and
so
I'm
just
curious,
not
just
in
romantic
relationships
but
just
in
in
you
know
social
interactions.
B
Typically,
young
people
go
out
more
go
to
restaurants
more,
you
know,
congregate,
more,
have
fun
more
and
and
the
other
thing
about
kobe
19.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
black
businesses
that
have
shut
down
frankly
and
probably
will
not
come
back.
So
I'm
just
curious
your
impressions
of
how
you
survive
copic
19
and
what
you've
seen
the
impact
of
it
is
on
the
black
community.
From
your
perspective,.
C
So
I'm
going
to
disappoint
you
about
the
social
interaction
side,
because
I
was
already
kind
of
a
homebody.
You
know
I
mean
I
go
out,
but
I
like
being
at
home.
I
was
you
know,
spending
time
with
with
close
friends
and
such
and
family,
but
I'll
speak
to
the
impact
on
businesses,
because
I
can
give
a
perfect.
You
know
data
point
related
to
this
through
the
work
that
I
do
so
I'm
the
programs
and
policy
manager
at
the
hill
cdc,
and
we
were
fortunate
enough.
C
We
we
started
the
hillary
community
if
you're
not
familiar.
We
were
fortunate
enough
to
receive
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
human
foundation,
because
you
know
due
to
regulations
they
can't
give
directly
to
individual
residents
or-
or
you
know,
businesses
and
so
the
goal
of
us
getting.
That
funding
was
to
support
coba,
19
relief
in
the
hill
district
neighborhood,
and
so
we
created
the
huddersfield
19
relief
fund.
We
launched
it.
I
want
to
stay
on
a
saturday
morning
within
about
a
week
and
a
half
to
two
weeks.
C
We
had
received
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
requests
and
we
only
had
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
give
out,
and
so
I'm
like,
if
you're
any,
if
you're
one
of
these
institutions
or
corp
or
corporations
or
entities
that
is
watching
this,
and
you
would
like
to
give
investment.
We
are
still
seeking
funding
to
support
the
rest
of
that
that
that
money,
that
we
need
to
fill
that
300
000
gap,
but
we
were
able
to
with
very
little
barriers.
You
know.
Basically
it
was.
Are
you
a
hill
district
resident?
C
Have
you
been
impacted
by
cover
19
here
we
can
give
you
money
right.
You
know
for
certain
areas.
We
were
able
to
do
that
to
put
the
money
right
into
the
hands
of
folks,
but
I
think
that
just
shows
you
how
much
black
pittsburgh
is
suffering
that
we
received
that
volume
of
requests
in
such
a
short
period
of
time,
and
when
we
had
to
deny
people-
and
we
would
you
know-
we
worked
with
a
bunch
of
partners-
we
were
directing
them
to
all
sorts
of
resources.
C
They
came
back
and
said
it's
either
really
burdensome
to
go
through
all
this.
This
red
tape,
or
I
have
to
submit
so
much
documentation.
I
don't
have
it
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
or
they
said
you
know,
I've
called
them
and
they're
also
out
of
money,
and
so
at
that
point
you
know
it
was
hard
to
because
what
do
you
tell
someone
in
that
point,
who's
in
crisis
who
can't
afford
their
mortgage
or
their
rent
who's
losing
their
their
business
and
so
definitely
black
pittsburgh?
I
think
we
haven't
talked
about
enough.
D
Yeah,
I
agree
with
that,
and
also
we
can
look
at
not
just
the
business
owners,
but
we
know
that
the
numbers
for
our
black
population
for
unemployment
is
above
average
in
comparison
to
other
cities,
hovering
around
20
percent,
which
is
astronomical
for
our
specific
generation,
though
we
haven't
been
affected
as
much,
but
we
do
know
that
women
are
affected
more
by
the
layoffs.
Older
people
are
affected
more
and
the
black
population
is
affected
more
by
covid19.
D
So
in
summit
circles
I
and
the
vice
president
of
women
in
tech
pittsburgh,
we've
called
it
this
the
she
session,
so
the
women
have
been
affected
and
their
jobs
have
been
slashed
drastically
and
there's
been
a
big
push
to
upskill
and
to
learn
new
technology
so
that
you
can
get
jobs
that
are
work
from
home
and
I
think
for
us.
D
I
know
all
four
of
us
have
been
able
to
transfer
to
work
from
home
very
easily
because
we
have
the
three
pillars
of
tech
equity,
which
is
the
skill,
the
technology
so
like
the
hardware,
the
computers
and
the
access
to
wi-fi,
but
a
lot
of
community.
A
lot
of
our
community
does
not
have
that
and
it's
kind
of
depressing,
but
we've
also
seen
for
our
generation.
D
You
know
we
used
to
go
out
and
network
a
lot.
I've
been
to
different
events
with
brian
and
joel
and
felicity.
Everybody
here
is
like
an
event
planner
in
some
aspect
too,
and
we're
depressed
in
some
ways
we
miss
each
other,
but
we
get
on
zoom
we
get
on
linkedin
and
I
think
our
generation
has
been
able
to
really
hop
on
to
the
digital
bandwagon
and
try
to
make
those
connections
and
do
networking
in
a
way
that
older
generations
haven't
been
able
to
in
the
past.
D
I
also
when
we
want
to
talk
about
like
the
personal
aspect,
how
it's
affecting
people
not
to
get
into
a
lot
of
it,
but
for
me
I've
spent
a
lot
of
my
time
outside.
We
were
fortunate
that
a
lot
of
the
time
during
covid
was
the
summer
and
weather
was
nice.
So
I've
seen
a
lot
of
my
friends
a
lot
of
other
black
women
start
gardens
and
getting
into
horticulture,
more
and
planting
food,
and
that's
really
been
a
beautiful
response
to
to
a
horrible
situation.
C
Okay,
I've
done
some
of
that
gina,
definitely
going
out
to
find
like
the
little
hidden
gems,
around
western
pennsylvania
that
are
like
really
beautiful
scenic
places
within
maybe
an
hour
drive
or
less
and
getting
out
into
nature,
so
that
that
is
a
good
point.
You
brought
up
about
that
yeah.
F
C
F
I
mean
this,
the
stats
are
definitely,
you
know,
that's
a
sad
story,
and
I
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
moment
definitely
humbled
all
of
us
in
the
black
community
in
all
communities
too,
and
but
it
also
has
taught
me,
you
know
what
is
important
in
life
family.
F
You
know
your
health
and
things
like
that,
so
I've
been
really
trying
to
leverage
that
and
encourage
people
anytime,
I've
interacted
with
them
that
yeah.
This
is
hard,
but
look
at
the
beauty
that
you
you
still
have
and
then
be
able
to.
You
know
care
for
those
that
had
lost
someone
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
beyond
the
black
community,
it
has
been
amazing
to
see
how
it's
leveled
the
playing
field
for
all
communities.
F
You
know-
and
I
think
we
can
use
that
to
kind
of
say
see
what
we've
been
talking
about.
This
is
why
we
need
help.
This
is
why
we
need
todd
on
this.
This
is
why
we
need
to
put
this
in
place,
because
you
know
that
that
that
barrier
this
covic
broke
a
lot
of
barriers
in
itself
to
put
us
all
on
the
same
quote-unquote
level.
A
So
I
want
to
bring
marcus,
micah
smithing
she's.
The
producer
of
this
she's
been
monitoring
the
questions
live.
So
I
want
to
give
her
an
opportunity
to
ask
the
live
questions,
but
as
we
do
that-
and
this
is
sort
of
a
hard
transition,
mr
gray,
I'm
just
curious
because
you
do
community
outreach
for
the
pirates
and
I
now
have
a
seven-year-old
son
who
was
playing
baseball
this
summer,
which
is
interesting
when
you're
trying
to
do
social,
distance
and
sanitizing
balls
in
between
every
pitch
and
everything.
A
So
it
makes
the
game
really
long,
but
nonetheless,
I'm
just
really
curious
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
role
that
sports
plays
within
our
community
pittsburgh.
For
those
who
don't
know
has
a
very
rich
legacy
of
black
baseball
players.
But
if,
if
what
I
read
is
correct,
or
what
I
hear
on
the
news
is
correct:
there's
a
black
people
not
participating
in
baseball,
as
we
once
did
so.
I'm
just
curious
your
overall
thoughts
on
the
role
of
baseball
within
our
community
coming
out
of
covid.
What
sports
in
general
looks
like.
F
I
think
that
it
starts
with
the
league
and
I
truly
think
mlb
is
doing
all
they
can
a
lot
of
what
they
can
to
empower
and
hire.
You
know
black
decision
makers
in
the
mlb
and
then
charging
those
black
people
to
have
conversations
with
their
community
groups
that
stretching
back
to
arm
and
saying
hey.
What
is
your
barrier
in
getting
into
the
game?
F
So
mlb
has
this
thing
called
the
diversity
pipeline
system
and
we
plug
that
away
with
anybody,
that's
interested
in
coaching
playing
or
even
working
for
mlb
or
any
other
clubs.
So
that's
number
one.
So
I
think
that
if
you
study
kind
of
what's
happening
in
kind
of
youth,
baseball,
softball
right
now
you
see
baseball
being
played
in
black
communities,
but
since
you
know
they
have
to
go
through
the
development
phase
before
they
hit
the
pros.
F
I
would
give
it
about
10
years
and
we
should
see
an
uptick
like
never
before
in
black
baseball
players.
Here.
F
The
pirates
we
had
a
program
for
a
long
time
called
reviving
baseball
inner
cities
and,
since
our
new
leadership,
travis
williams,
who
we
hired
as
president
recently
he's,
really
led
the
charge
of
saying
okay,
we
got
all
these
great
programs,
but
how
can
we
be
super
more
intentional
and
I
feel
like
as
much
as
heat
as
he
gets
in
the
media.
I
think
bob
nutting
is
really
about
building
those
necessary
development
things
to
build
that
bridge
right,
because
it's
not
just
who
you
put
on
the
field
right
now
on
the
pros.
F
It's
who
you
also
are
feeding
into
your
system.
So
so
that's
one
thing
and
yes,
I
think
sports
and
I'll
speak
to
mlb
and
then
I'll
talk
to
sports
mlb
he's
the
only
league
that
had
purposely
you
know,
separated
blacks
and
whites
from
playing
right.
So
I
think
that
just
that's!
That's
tough!
That's
a
tough
pill
to
swallow,
but
I
definitely
think
mlb
is
turning
that
corner
of
apologizing
right
and
reconciliating
that
that
happened
and
trying
its
best
to
do
all
it
takes
to
make
sure
that
never
happens
again.
F
I
mean
a
perfect
example
of
that
is
how
many
spanish
speaking
players
are
in
their
league
right
now.
You
know,
so
I
think
that's
awesome
and
we're
getting
some
more
asian
players
in,
but
I
think
that
we
can't
forget
about
the
black
talent
and
making
sure
that
some
of
that
black
talent
is
getting
those
things
at
the
professional
level
and
then
this
year,
if
you've
been
following
baseball,
you've
probably
seen
a
lot
more
black
athletes
come
out
and
be
bold
about
where
they
stand
and
that's
simply
at
first
to
be
honest
like
they.
F
They
were
fearful
of
how
mlb
was
gonna
penalize.
F
But
I
think
that
mlb
kind
of
loosened
that
up
a
little
bit
this
year
to
allow
him
that
freedom.
So
I
think
you'll
see
more
and
more
of
that
movie.
Moving
forward.
G
Micah,
yes,
so
our
first
question
is
from
donny
who
asked
as
young
black
leaders.
What
do
you
see
as
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
decentralization
of
black
leadership?
Currently,
black
grassroots
movements,
like
black
lives
matter,
appear
to
have
supplanted
the
traditional
torch
bearers
like
reverend
sharpton
and
reverend
jackson.
What
are
your
thoughts.
D
I'll
go.
I
think
that
that
it's
great,
I
think
that
we
need
more
voices
from
different
perspectives.
I
think
that
the
decentralization
decentralization
of
power
has
allowed
for
more
intersectional
identities
to
enter
into
the
space
of
equity
conversations.
I
think
we've
been
more
inclusive
of
the
lgbtq
community.
I
think
we've
been
more
conscious
about
the
fact
that
women
are
dying
at
the
hands
of
police
violence,
and
I
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
been
wonderful
so
far.
D
I
think
that
there
could
be,
like
I
said
in
the
beginning,
a
little
bit
more
conversations
between
the
two
and
strategizing,
but
I
think
these
are
new
pockets
of
people
who
are
starting
to
care
and
and
coming
to
the
protest
and
showing
up.
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
a
complete
decentralization.
D
E
But
if
you
have
multiple
heads
right
or
you
can't
figure
out
who's
the
head,
because
the
work
is
happening
in
so
many
different
fashions
and
from
so
many
different
angles,
then
it
puts
us
in
a
completely
different
power
position
right
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
really
really
good
things
that
the
decentralization
did
of
it
was
in.
Like
gina
said
it's
more
of
in
addition
to
right.
So
it's
not
like
these
people
completely
like
they
lost
power
or
whatever
else
the
situation
was.
E
It
was
more
of
a
situation
where
people
you
know
more
people
came
to
the
table
and
we
opened
up
the
table.
Right
quote:
unquote
or
a
new
table
was
built
and
people
were
invited
to
it
right
and
that's,
what's
always
been
more
important
than
anything
else,
is
creating
more
avenues
for
us
to
create
a
larger
movement
to
create
more
change.
B
I
do
think
something
I
would
just
jump
in
a
little
bit
and
I
know
we
have
to
go
to
micah
my
word
and
mike
I'm
sure
you
have
another
question,
because
I'm
I'm
part
of
that
older
generation
right
and
I
I
agree.
I
think
it's
been
exciting,
watching
the
new
people
come
together,
new
leadership.
I
think
I
I
think
it's
right
on.
B
We've
had
a
lot
of
people
who
were
not
included
in
other
civil
rights
journeys,
the
gay
and
lesbian,
lgbt
community
women's
community,
the
trans
community,
just
lots
of
different
voices.
B
The
one
thing,
though
I
think
this
is
just
sort
of-
and
I've
said
this
before
my
concern-
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
the
movements
in
the
60s
and
70s
did
have
was
a
moral
moral
ethical
center,
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
something
of
of
the
that
we
need
to
take
with
us
as
we
go
forward
right
of
the
whole
idea
of
civil
disobedience
from
from
gandhi
to
king
to
others.
B
Is
this
whole
idea
of
of
of
moral
principles
and
of
of
being
spiritual
and
moral
and
defeating
one
enemies
because
of
righteousness
and
justice?
And
I
just
I'm
hoping
that
our
young
activists
still
bring
that
sort
of
moral
and
justice
initiative
to
protesting
and
to
advocacy
I
think,
that's
what
would
make
that's
that's
what
will
keep
us
in
this
moment
and
make
it
long-term.
At
least
that's
that's,
been
my
thoughts.
C
I'll
jump
in
here
and
say
something,
and
I
know
mike
I'm
sure
you
have
more
questions
too
I'll-
try
to
be
really
brief.
So
I'm
fully
supportive
of
bringing
new
people
to
the
table.
We've
got
to
have
more
as
our
interest.
Our
movement
has
to
be
both
intersectional
and
then
I'm
going
to
also
add
intergenerational
as
this
kind
of
gets
to
some
of
what
you
were
saying:
reverend
burgess,
although
I'm
probably
going
to
take
a
slightly
different
position
than
you
on
it.
C
What
I
wanted
to
say
here
was
that
I
think
that
there
is
value
absolutely
in
history
and
context,
and
sometimes
I
think
that
isn't
always
appreciated
or
made
space
for
sometimes
in
in.
I
don't
want
to
say
in
a
movement
because
it's
not
in
a
movement,
but
not
everyone
has
a
value
appreciation
for
the
context,
the
history-
and,
I
think,
that's
important.
If
you
don't
know
where
you
you've
been,
how
can
you
know
where
you're
going
right?
C
History
is
critical,
but
I'll
also
say
that
I
think
we
have
to
also
recognize
where
we
have
been
successful
and
where
we
haven't
been
successful
with
certain
strategies
and
previous
strives,
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
evaluate
and
say
is
what
we're
doing
working,
and
I
think
in
general
to
this
point,
and
so
let
me
say
that
I
tend
to
take
a
more
I.
C
I
won't
take
a
an
advocat
advocating
a
violence
position,
of
course,
but
what
I
will
take
is
not
necessarily
advocating
a
purely
non-violent
position
and
and
by
that,
what
I
mean
is
I'm
not
you
know
not
calling
for
lawlessness.
I
guess
in
theory,
but
I
think
this
gets
back
to
the
point.
C
I
mean
earlier
about
the
the
frustration
that
people
have
and
the
level
of
oppression
that
has
been
experienced,
and
I
don't
know
how
you
combat
violent
systems
entirely
peacefully
and
make
progress,
and
I
think
that's
a
challenge
where
we
are
right
now
like.
How
are
we
continuing
to
make
progress
battling
racism
and
white
supremacy
and
oppression
is
violent
and
so
how?
How
are
we
able
to
to
do
that?
C
C
A
E
I
think
that,
in
those
conversations
needing
to
happen,
I
think
that
a
level
of
understanding
along
any
generation
needs
to
be
more
carefully
and
more
understandingly
right
and
coming
with
a
lens
of
understanding
needs
to
come
to
the
different
needs
to
come
to
the
table
right.
So
I
think
that
that's
what
more
of
a
goal
is?
Do
I
think
personally?
E
Do
I
think
this
is
the
forum
not
really,
but
I
think
that
we
all
could
definitely
benefit
from
sitting
down
at
the
table
and
really
being
able
to
try
and
come
with
a
lens
of
understanding
around
the
different
pieces
and
around
the
different
methods
right
and
why?
What
worked
when
and
why?
What
won't
work
now
right
and
where
we
need
to
work
together
in
order
to
create
a
more
sustainable,
long-term
solution
that
can
create
the
change
in
progress
right,
because
those
are
ultimately
the
goals.
Right
change,
progress,
ultimately
the
goals.
E
D
I
agree
with
both
what
you
said:
felicity
and
brian,
and-
and
I
hear
you
reverend
burris.
I
think
that
that's
a
good
and
valid
point.
I
think
that
there's
no
way
that
will
make
certain
people
happy
how
we
protest,
no
matter
if
we
are
peaceful
or
if
we're
wearing
t.
You
know
if
lebron
wears
a
t-shirt
if
kaepernick
kneels,
if
someone
sets
a
fire,
if
the
cast
of
hamilton
protests
during
a
play,
nothing
is
going
to
please
everybody.
D
Someone
is
always
going
to
have
a
conflict
with
it
and
I
think
that
we
also
have
to
consider
the
effects
of
generational
trauma
of
systemic
racism
being
passed
from
generation
to
generation
and
witnessing
our
grandparents
and
hearing
of
our
great-grandparents
stories
of
racism
affecting
their
livelihood
and
the
violence
that
it
has
impacted
them
with
and
and
then
just
to
lay
down
a
quick
quote
by
tony
morris.
That's
been
making
its
rounds
recently
and
I
don't
advocate
for
violence
or
for
writing.
D
But
tony
morris
said
what
struck
me
most
about
those
who
rioted
was
how
long
they
waited
the
restraint.
They
showed
not
the
spontaneity
the
restraint
they
waited
and
waited
for
justice,
and
it
didn't
come.
No
one
talks
about
that,
and
it's
it's
not
that
any
of
this
is
justified,
but
it's
that
we
have
to
look
at
what
has
the
impact
been
of
decades
and
decades
worth
of
injustice
and
watching
it
happen,
and
how
has
that
played
on
our
mental
health
and
physical
health?
D
To
get
to
the
point
now
where
we
do
have
very
violent
outbursts
from
from
from
some
populations,
not
not
our
protesters.
I
do
believe
that
there
are
infiltrators
carrying
out
deeds
that
don't
reflect
the
black
lives
matter
movement,
but
I
think
that
we
have
to
consider
the
full
picture
and
we
have
to
look
at
what
the
effect
of
systemic
racism
on
our
our
well-being.
G
I
think
to
to
sort
of
continue
on
that
point,
and
there
was
one
question
in
the
comments
from
charnay
who
asked:
how
can
we
use
this
platform
to
educate
black
pittsburgh
about
the
process
for
making
their
voices
heard
to
impact
the
city
budget
and
how
has
and
will
covet
19
impact
the
city
budget
and
black
pittsburgh?
So
I
think
this
is
directed
to
the
councilman.
A
B
Well,
I
think
a
couple
things,
this
town
hall
series
that
got
birthed
out
of
you
know:
clothing
19
is
the
first
time
that
there's
been
a
city
sponsored
really
sustained
social
media
attempt
to
deal
with
the
issues
of
black
pittsburgh
right.
This
has
not
happened
before
at
least
I
can
remember,
and
so
we
have
this
this
vehicle,
where
I
think
we
can.
We
have
been
talking
about
issues
and
using
the
city's
resources
to
actually
you
know,
make
it
digital
and
live
in
social
media.
B
Second
of
all,
one
of
the
things
that
charnay
that
I've
been
frustrated
about
in
the
I'm
you
know,
I'm
I
guess
I'm
the
law.
No,
I
know
I'm
the
longest
serving
black
member
of
council
in
its
history
and
one
of
the
things
that
has
frustrated
me
is
I've
not
gotten
more
african-americans
to
participate
in
our
legislative.
You
know
deliberations,
they
don't
do
they
don't
come
to
public
comment.
They
don't
necessarily
write
letters,
they
don't
call
me
they
don't
let
their
voices
known
for
listening.
So
there's
an
exception
to
that.
B
But
one
of
the
things
is
that
if
there
are
interests
that
people
have,
if
there
were
ways
in
which
they
could
make
those
interests
known
whether
it's
a
changing
in
in
funding
streams
from
the
police
to
social
services,
whether
it's
the
need
for
more
recreational
things
that
you
know
they
want
more,
they
want
their
poetry
parks
rebuilt.
Those
things
are
possible,
but
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
influence
the
budget
daniel
and
I
do
it
based
on
our
own
kind
of
skill-
and
you
know
working
as
a
team.
B
C
So
I
want
to
jump
in
there
real
quick.
I
know
this
is
directed
at
the
councilman,
but
I'm
like
you
know,
you
guys
asked
about
policy
recommendations
and
reverend
burgess
is
correct,
that
I
am
at
a
lot
of
different
types
of
public
hearings
and
making
that
known.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
been
advocating
for
is
the
fact
that
most
of
these
hearings
happen
during
the
day
when
your
average
black
resident
is,
is
working,
and
so
that's
one
of
my
frustrations
it's
hard
to
get
the
participation.
C
I
think
that
some
people
would
like
to
be
engaged
in
in
the
issues.
If
you
know
a
hearing's
at
10
a.m
or
one
o'clock,
you
know,
ura
board
meetings
are
at
two,
and
sometimes
those
can
go
three
four
hours,
I'm
not
sure
what
average
resident
has
the
time
to
sit
through
three
or
four
hours
for
some
of
those
things.
I
want
to
also
make
the
point
of
you
know
this
gets
my
point
earlier
about
some
of
our
experiences,
not
necessarily
being
typical
of
your
average
black
resident.
C
You
know
if
we're
talking
about
the
statistics
of
how
bad
black
pittsburgh
is.
You
have
people
who
are
in
survival
mode
and
when
you're
in
survival
mode,
you
are
focused
on.
How
am
I
going
to
put
food
on
my
table
tonight?
How
am
I
going
to
help
my
kids
with
their
homework?
How
am
I
going
to
make
it
to
work
tomorrow?
I
don't
have
bus
money.
C
Where
am
I
going
to
eat
like
there
are
critical
needs
that
they
are
trying
to
address,
and
so
and-
and
this
is
a
challenge
that
we
all
have
like-
we
think
do
this
at
our
organization.
How
can
we
better
connect
to
those
folks
and
make
that
make
the
message
that
we
are
giving
break
it
down
so
that
it
has
meaning
to
them
and
so
that
it's
not
just
this
high
level?
Sometimes
we
talk
in
very
high
level
policy.
C
You
know
aspirations
and
philosophy
in
theory,
and
we
don't
make
it
real
for
people
for
their
everyday
lives
and
so
I'll
try
to
even
like
the
census.
You
know
some
of
the
census
things
like
if
you
aren't
really
breaking
it
down
like
what
the
census
impacts
for
people
they're
gonna
be
like.
Why
am
I
taking
them?
I'm
giving
the
government
all
this
information.
You
know
I
mean
like
they're
like
I
don't
have
time
to
do
that,
like
I'm
doing
15
other
things,
and
so
I
think
that's
another
thing
related
to.
C
If
you
talk
about
just
civic
engagement
in
general,
how
we
break
it
down
so
that
people
understand
you,
know,
judges
and
versus,
like
your,
your,
your
da's,
your
city,
councilman,
your
state,
reps,
your
your
federal
elected
officials
and
there's
actually
a
really
great
video
out
right
now
and
I'm
trying
to
get
the
artist's
name.
I
think
it's
yellow
something
and
he
talks
about
breaking
it's
a
rap
song.
C
He
talks
about
breaking
down
the
system
for
people
to
understand
like
when
you're
mad
about
this
particular
thing
like
this
is
what
that's
about,
and
you
need
to
vote
for,
judges
right
and
he
breaks
it
down
in
a
way
that
I
think
communicates
to
people
on
a
more
real
level
for
them
to
relate
to
and
understand,
like,
oh
like
this
is
really
why
I
need
to
go.
Do
this
and,
like
I
said
I'll,
have
to
if
I
can
find
it
I'll
give
it
to
you
all.
E
E
Right
like
like
you
said,
people
are
dealing
with
every
day
like
daily
decisions
right
like
if
I
have
to
figure
out
how
my
family,
how
my
child
is
going
to
eat
tonight,
and
you
want
me
to
come
to
a
meeting
about
something
that
affects
me
long
term.
I
need
to
really
understand
what
me
being
there
really
means
right
and
how
it
can
really
truly
impact
me
my
family
and
my
community.
So
I
think
those
points
are
all
very
well
and
duly
noted
micah.
I
don't
want
to
steal
your
style.
Come
up
here.
G
No
no
worries.
I
was
just
saying
that
some
of
the
answers
to
that
question
I
think,
connect
with
another
question.
I
think
gabriel
asked
about
exactly
how
you
engage
young
black
people
in
pittsburgh
to
sort
of
make
a
difference.
I
think
she
was.
He
was
sorry.
I
don't
want
to
misgender
anyone.
G
I
think
the
comment
was
connecting
it
to
the
black
pittsburgh
matters
legislation,
but
because
this,
this
sort
of
the
answer
has
been
extended
and
there's
been
a
greater
understanding
of
both
of
you
have
spoken
a
little
bit
about
how
important
it
is.
I
thought
I
might
open
that
up
to
the
general
public.
B
Again,
I
have,
I
have
hosted
various
activities,
for
you
know:
young
urban
league,
young,
black
professionals
or
I've
had
at
various
times
engagement
with
cmu
students
or
with
pitt
students
and
those
engagements
are
ongoing,
but
I
think
what
I
have
found
in
you
know
we
go
to
community
meetings.
B
My
point
is
no
matter
how
much
engagement
you
do
with
people
if
you're,
if
they
don't,
participate
or
see
the
engagement
they
think
it
doesn't
occur.
When
you
know,
we've
used
every
venue
that
I
can
think
of
to
try
to
engage
all
people
and
give
them
opportunity.
What
do
you
think
about
that?
Daniel.
A
I
would
agree
it's
hard,
I
mean
we'll,
do
newsletters
we'll
do
community
meetings
we'll
do
online
platforms
now
that
we're
due
to
covet
and
inevitably
we
miss
someone
and
then
people
want
to
know
why
you
haven't
done
despite
the
fact
that
you've
done
as
much
out
as
much
outpouring
as
you
possibly
can
into
the
community
to
get
in
front
of
as
many
people.
You
know
what
I
often
say
is
it's
this.
This
is
a
two-way
street
right.
A
I
it's
my
job
to
reach
out
to
the
community,
but
it's
also
your
job
to
reach
out
to
me.
If
you
haven't
called
me,
if
you
haven't
knocked
down
my
door,
if
you
haven't
sent
me
a
text
or
an
email,
then
you
haven't
engaged
in
that
political
process
either,
and
so
both
of
us
have
to
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
engaging
one
and
one
in
another
as
early
and
as
often
as
we
possibly
can.
C
I'll
also
add
about
sorry
micah,
just
really
quickly
kind
of
hit.
Some
of
what
I
was
saying
at
home
in
a
different
direction
is
also
like
meeting
people
where
they
are,
I
think,
is
critical.
So
you
know
I'll
talk
about
this,
and
this
is
obvious.
This
isn't
related.
You
know
to
you
councilman
or
reverend
burgess,
but,
like
I
often
see
people
who
are
like
speaking
for
the
black
community
or
like
you
know,
advocating
for
or
in
positions
and
which-
and
I'm
like,
but
you
know
what
like.
C
I
would
never
see
you
at
the
galaxy
on
a
friday
night
right
and
I'm
like
how
real
are
you
if
you're
not
really
in
our
communities?
If
you
don't
live
there,
you're
not
willing
to
come
into
the
community
at
some
level
of
you
like
or
if
you're
not
going
to
be.
You
know
if
I'm
not
going
to
see
your
grandma
bees
in
the
hill.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
some
of
that
stuff
is
like.
C
How
can
you
really
connect
with
folks
like
go
to
the
barber
shops
go
to
where
people
are
and
meet
them?
There,
I
think,
is
critically
important
because
it
gets
back
to
the
point
where
I
was
saying
about:
you
know:
people's
lives
being
in
survival
mode,
so
just
wanted
to
drop
that
little
gem
and
not
that
I
don't
think
you
all
do
go
meet
people
where
they
are
councilman.
Lavelle
is
at
so
many
meetings
in
the
hill.
C
F
I
I
do
want
to
say
something
that
I
think
kind
of
ties
back
to
reverend
burgess.
What
you
were
saying
is
that
nobody,
this
might
be
a
buzzword
here,
like
I
think,
patience,
is
everything
right
because,
like
I
think
for
us,
we
do
a
lot
of
things
that
people
don't
know
but
then
like
when
we
find
that
out,
we
try
to
really
sit
with
people
and
say:
okay,
how
can
we
make
our
product
work
for
you
and
like
where?
Where
where
do
you
currently
sit
right?
F
And
I
think
that
a
lot
of
times
we
live
in
like
a
microwave
world,
that
we
want
to
kind
of
see
like
the
end
result
right
away,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
this
is
you
know
we
gotta
understand
it
comes
in
stages,
you
know
you
gotta
yeah,
introduce
it.
Then
if
somebody
receives
it,
you
have
to
teach
it
then
hopefully
continue
to
train
them
up
and
then
now
they
can
deploy
it.
F
You
know,
and
so
I
think
that
in
these
things
from
you
guys
learning
that
maybe
the
time
of
the
meetings
have
to
change,
maybe
the
cycles
that
you
send
out
the
information
has
to
change.
I
don't
know
if
we'll
see
that
next
year,
you
know
a
huge
change,
but
if
we
start
it
right,
don't
let
that
quick,
don't
let
that
lack
of
quick
result,
stop
you
from
making
that
investment
and
making
the
necessary
change
to
make
sure
it
never
continues
again.
B
I
I
I
see,
I'm
glad
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
galaxy
one
of
the
fine
establishments
in
my
council
district.
I
know
both
the
owners
I
knew
another
dad
before
it
was
the
galaxy.
I
will
also
say
that
you
know
being
in
the
church
on
wednesday
and
on
saturdays
and
on
sundays
at
least
for
me.
You
know
in
homewood.
I
think
that
counts
too,
and
so
I'm
just
saying
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
B
You
know,
just
there
are
a
variety
of
places
in
our
community
that
we
can
go
to
and
and
be
real,
but
I
think
I
agree.
This
is
not
the
time
to
talk
about
that,
but
I
do
think
when
I've,
when
I've
as
I
go
and
listen
to
young
people,
sometimes
they
say
what
you
say:
they
want
to
define
what
activities
you
do
to
be
real
right.
B
They
that
with
them
certain
activities,
are
legitimate
right
going
to
the
galaxy
you
know
maybe
going
to
going
to
the
barbershop
or
you
know
going
to
showcase,
which
I
said
you
know
I
would
I
can
keep
getting
like
or
going
to
dennis
bakery.
I
give
a
lot
of
shout
outs,
but,
but
you
know
other
other
other
things
they
think
it
is
not
as
legitimate,
even
though
those
activities
take
place
in
that
same
community.
That's
just
an
aside.
I've
noticed
I've
noticed
that
I
don't
know
why.
That
is.
B
I
have
known
that
there
there
is
this.
There
is
the
bias,
I
won't
say
necessarily
just
church.
I
think
there
are
you
know
there.
B
There
are
places
that
older
african
americans
go
in
the
black
community
on
a
regular
basis
that
you
may
not
see
me
at
whether
it's
the
senior
centers
or
it's
the
or
it's
the
church
community
or
a
variety
of
places,
and
sometimes
young
people
don't
equate
that
with
legitimate
experiences
for
african-americans,
I'm
just
I've,
since
I've
heard
that
over
and
over
again,
especially
over
the
last
probably
five
six
years,
I
want
to
at
least
react
to
that
as
the
as
obviously
you
know,
the
old
man
on
this
panel.
C
I
will
say
I
think,
that's
why
those
intergenerational
the
flow,
both
you
know
again
back
and
forth
between
the
generations
is
important.
It
can't
just
be
one
direction.
I
think
that's
critical,
that
it
has
to
go
both
ways
and
then
I'll
also
say
you
know.
C
I
make
the
point
of
using
the
galaxy
because-
and
I
think
you
know
we
have
the
perception
of
that-
our
communities
are
so
dangerous
and
while
we
certainly
have
folks
doing
great
work
on
on
violence
prevention,
you
know
the
hill
district,
for
example,
has
far
less
crime
than
many
other
places,
but
there
are
so
many
folks
who
would
not
be
in
the
hill
district
on
a
friday
at
night.
You
know,
so
that's
why
I
used
that.
C
As
the
example,
you
know
point
taken
for
what
you
were
saying,
but
to
hammer
that
point
home,
if
you're
afraid
to
be
in
our
communities
during
a
certain
period
of
time.
How
are
you
really
able
to
represent
us
as
a
community
engage
with
us
as
a
community
et
cetera?
So
that's
what
I
think
really
is.
It
gets
the
core
the
court
issue
gets
to
you
like.
Are
you?
A
So
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
take
that
point
and
I'm
gonna
wrap
us
up.
We
told
you,
we
would
keep
you
for
an
hour.
It's
been
closer
to
an
hour
and
a
half
at
this
point,
so
I
do
want
to
be
respectful
of
you.
Should
we
win?
Do
we.
A
It's
not
as
cool,
and
so
until
your
point
of
sort
of
the
intergenerational,
I
don't,
I
don't
think
I'm
on
that
other
side
of
the
generation,
though,
but
to
your
point
I
mean
I
would
be
more
than
welcome
to
welcome
you
all
back
to
have
another
conversation
to
keep
it
going
more.
A
Yeah,
but
for
the
purpose
of
today,
I
do
want
to
wrap
up,
and
just
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us
this
evening.
Specifically,
I
want
to
thank
mr
brian
burley,
who
is
the
author
of
young
black
pittsburgh,
miss
felicity
williams,
a
racial
and
economic
justice
advocate,
and
the
programs
and
policy
manager
for
the
hill
cdc,
miss
gina,
winstead
assistant,
vice
president
of
vibrant
pittsburgh
and
the
director
of
diversity
and
inclusion
at
the
pittsburgh.
D
D
A
I'm
trying
to
remember
all
this
it's
hard
to
try
to
remember
all
this.
You
are
too
busy
and
then
lastly,
mr
joel
gray,
who
is
the
community
outreach
director
for
the
pittsburgh
pirates?
I
believe
that
I
got
that
correct.
C
I
know
travis
too
worked
with
him
for
a
while.
Also
there's
one
point:
I
wanted
to
make
this
the
rapper
the
name
is,
his
name
is
yellowpain
and
the
song
it
he
did
originally,
like
my
my
vote,
don't
count
and
then
remixed
it
and
now
it's
my
vote
will
count.
So
it's
an
empowerment
message.
I
think
it's
a
good
point
to
end
on
on
getting
black
folks
out
to
the
polls
to
vote.
C
B
Yes,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
viewing
public,
including
marimba,
for
watching
and
participating
in
this
town
hall
meeting.
Remember
you
can
watch
this
show
on
facebook,
the
city's
youtube
channel
or
the
city's
cable
channel.
A
new
meeting
will
occur
every
wednesday
next
and
so
we're
glad
that
you're
all
participating
with
us
by
working
together,
united
purpose,
we
can
transform
our
city
strengthen
it
for
all
of
its
residents.
Pittsburgh
can
only
be
a
city
for
all
when
it
becomes
a
city
where
black
pittsburgh
matters
good
evening,
stay
safe
and
be
blessed.