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A
And
we
welcome
you
to
another
episode,
I
guess
of
pittsburgh.
Black
matters
black
pittsburgh
matters.
Excuse
me
black
pittsburgh
matters
is
a
series
of
virtual
town
hall
meetings,
affirming
a
city-wide
agenda
that
black
pittsburgh
does
indeed
matter.
Black
pittsburgh
matters
means
black
lives
matter.
It
means
we
must
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
black
people.
It
means
that
black
communities
matter.
We
must
focus
on
rebuilding
black
communities
and
it
means
that
black
wealth
matters.
We
must
work
on
increasing
black
employment
and
entrepreneurial.
B
The
black
community
has
been
disproportionately
affected
by
concurrent
crisis,
the
kovic
19
pandemic
and
its
resulting
economic
crisis
and,
secondly,
race
relations,
which
is
a
public
health
crisis
in
our
country.
Normally
in
times
of
crisis
and
great
change,
we'll
be
coming
to
you
as
the
black
elected
officials
of
pittsburgh
and
having
meetings
across
the
city
with
our
constituents,
partners
and
allies.
Since
we
cannot
do
so
safely
in
the
current
pandemic.
B
We
are
now
using
this
media
and
platform
to
come
to
you
in
the
ways
we
can
to
talk
about
what
we're
doing,
discuss
policy
and
legislation
concerning
black
pittsburgh.
These
meetings
will
be
available
via
facebook
youtube
and
the
city's
cable
channel.
You
can
contact
or
ask
questions
via
the
black
pittsburgh
matters,
facebook
page
or
you
can
email
us
at
blackpghmatters-
that's
blackpghmatters
gmail.com,
so
you
can
do
that
right
now,
either
through
our
live
feed
or
through
our
facebook
or
through
our
email.
A
Rev,
it's
important
to
note
that
economic
development
does
not
happen
in
a
vacuum.
It
truly
takes
a
team
of
dedicated
professionals
across
the
various
spectrums
and,
despite
what
we
may
say
at
times,
when
we're
trying
to
gloat
no
council
person
develops
anything
on
their
own.
The
role
of
city
council
people
in
facilitating
economic
development
is
to
pull
every
available
lever
on
behalf
of
their
constituents
and
really
help
facilitate
economic
development.
A
This
means
we
must
work
with
city
agencies,
local
organizations,
potential
funders,
foundations,
schools,
universities,
community
groups
and
others
to
ensure
that
economic
development
happens,
both
housing
and
commercial.
The
city's
urban
redevelopment
authority,
the
housing
authority
and
the
city
planning
department
have
been
and
are
important
partners
in
this
work.
Regarding
project
planning,
funding
and
management.
A
To
ensure
economic
development
happens,
the
help
initiative
has
also
been
a
partner
in
ensuring
that
economic
development
aligns
with
community
desires
and
goals
for
economic
development,
councilman
burgess-
and
I
I
believe
I
can
speak
for
him
in
this
case-
are
both
deeply
committed
to
ensuring
economic
development
occurs
in
our
districts.
I
myself
sit
on
the
board
of
the
ura.
B
I've
sat
for
many
years
on
the
housing
authority
board
and
formerly
was
the
chair
of
that
board.
For
many
many
years
together,
the
ura,
the
housing
authority,
city
planning
and
health
have
worked
to
rebuild
the
black
community,
committing
to
economic
development
of
traditional
african-american
american
neighborhoods.
B
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
build
somewhere
close
to
2
000
units
of
housing.
In
my
council's
district
during
my
time
on
council
together,
we
are
working,
as
you
know,
on
our
newest
project
together,
which
is
avenues
of
hope.
The
plans
for
economic
development
for
the
future
of
black
pittsburgh
avenues
of
hope.
I
span
seven
different
business
districts.
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
mine,
which
is
homewood
avenue.
B
We
have
done
a
comprehensive
community
plan.
Homewood
has
the
coma
development
collaborative
is
primed
for
doing
development.
We
have
the
land.
The
idea
homund
was
once
the
third
or
fourth
largest
business
district
in
pittsburgh.
The
idea
is
to
rebuild
and
rebirth
homewood
avenue
into
a
mixed
income
mixed
use
community
so
that
people
can
live
on
top
of
storefronts.
B
The
way
they
did
before
and
people
can
walk
to
grocery
stores
and
and
and
gas
stations
and
how
clothing
stores,
and
so
we
believe
that
by
rebuilding
homewood
avenue,
you
also
then
begin
to
be
able
to
rebuild
all
around
it
and
bring
the
market
back
like
we've
got
in
in
in
larmer.
So
we're
looking
very
looking
forward
very
much
to
investment
in
rebuilding
homewood
avenue
and,
what's
I
think
in
your
district,
it's
center
avenue.
A
Yes,
it
is
center
avenue
which
we
have
already
begun
working
on.
I'm
really
excited
because
we
currently
have
see
there's
six
or
seven.
I
think
it's
seven
proposals
that
we
are
working
with
for
redevelopment
opportunities
along
center.
Some
is
new
construction.
Some
is
rehabilitation
of
older
structures,
but
it's
all
commercial,
as
you
also
stated,
with
some
housing
above
it.
A
So
we're
looking
at
office
space
we're
looking
at
bringing
back
a
barbershop,
we're
looking
at
building
a
salon
along
the
avenue
and
some
others
that
we
can
get
into-
and
I
think
what's
most
interesting
about
this-
is
the
process
and
I'll
save
that
for
the
deputy
director
of
the
ura
to
talk
about,
but
the
process
we
really
implemented
has
allowed
us
to
go.
A
Find
young
minorities
who
want
to
be
part
of
the
rebirth
of
the
hill
district
and
want
to
really
focus
on
sort
of
putting
their
footprint
on
how
we
rebuild
a
black
community
and
specifically
doing
it
by
black
developers.
B
Well,
I
think,
in
order
to
get
in
this
conversation,
we're
honored
to
have
some
very
a
significant
guest
with
us.
Today
we
are
honored
to
be
joined
by
mr
ron
porter
from
the
help
initiative,
mr
christopher
corbett
from
pittsburgh
city
planning
and
miss
diamanti
walker,
deputy
executive
director
of
the
ura
and
finally,
miss
monique,
pierre
chief
development
officer
for
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Everyone
welcome
and
welcome
to
tonight's
edition
of
black
pittsburgh
matters.
C
B
A
So
maybe,
mr
porter,
because
we
mentioned
it
in
the
beginning-
the
help
initiative.
Maybe
if
you
could
just
walk
us
through
what
the
help
initiative
is,
how
it
functions
and
what
it's
looking
to
accomplish.
C
A
it's
designed
to
really
bring
together
multiple
stakeholders
and
communities.
Earlier
on,
when
you
were
making
your
introduction,
you
said
that
it
takes
us
all
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
health
initiative
does
is
it
encourages
and
facilitates
community
collaborative
collaboration
through
the
present
date.
We've
been
active
in
the
east
end
for
about
four
or
five
years,
and
during
that
time
we
have
been
when
I
say
we
pam
colyer
who's,
my
fellow
consultant
with
the
help
program.
C
C
C
We
facilitate
comprehensive
planning,
we
facilitate
meetings.
At
times
we
get
involved
in
resolving
differences
of
perspectives
that
might
exist
among
community
members.
C
And
then
the
most
important
thing
is
that
we
help
to
identify
capital
that
can
be
available.
Working
in
the
east
end
with
councilman
burgess,
primarily
and
with
people
like
bridgeway
capital
and
foundation
community.
We
begin
to
identify
where
investments
can
be
made
and
where
resources
may
come
from.
C
The
restoration
of
homewood
avenue,
rehabbing
houses
also
really
developing
the
kind
of
coherent
planning
where
all
of
the
community
partners
plays
a
role,
and
I
guess
the
last
thing
that
I
would
add
is
that,
under
the
auspices
of
the
help
initiative,
there
are
opportunities
that
develop
where
leaders
in
the
five
east
end
communities
that
include
larmor,
east
hills,
homewood,
lincoln,
limington
and
east
liberty.
C
There
are
some
activities
where
they
can
join
together
to
lobby
politically
or
to
plan
collectively
for
initiatives
that
improve
the
entire
east
end.
Things
like
violence
reduction,
for
instance,
dealing
with
the
educational
challenges
that
are
brought
in
by
covet,
coordinating
and
working
to
make
sure
that
food
distribution
reaches
all
parts
of
the
east
end.
C
So
if
listeners
are
interested,
I'd
like
you
to
go
to
the
website,
help
pittsburgh.org,
that's
h-e-l-p-p-g-h,
dot,
r
g
and
that
provides
an
overview
of
the
health
initiative
and
the
help
initiative
is
available
outside
of
the
east
end
to
provide
support
and
perhaps
later
or
if
people
are
interested,
will
provide
details
on
how
that
support
can
be
accessed.
B
Thanks
ron-
and
so
I
guess
for
the
for
the
rest
of
our
guests,
if
you
would
please
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
agency
and
what
road
plays
in
housing
and
economic
development
in
the
city,
so
you
know
our
our
viewers
get
a
sense
of
the
important
work.
All
three
of
you
do,
chris.
Why
don't
you
start?
Because
I
think
you're,
you
start
because
your
role,
your
work,
starts
first
right.
D
That's
absolutely
true,
and
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
with
everyone
tonight,
you're
right,
so
the
department
of
city
planning
we're
the
only
department
that
really
focuses
on
landing,
use
and
kind
of
starting,
first
and
all
of
the
pre-planning
and
planning
efforts
that
come
along
we're
collaborators,
so
we'll
collaborate
with
the
ura
and
with
the
housing
authority
as
well.
D
For
the
most
part,
we
are
really
looking
forward
to
kind
of
taking
a
look
at
two
avenues
in
particular,
which
is
homewood
and
the
avenue
and
hazelwood
too,
because
those
two
neighborhoods
already
have
adopted
plans,
and
so
it's
very
critical
for
our
department
to
kind
of
create
neighborhood
plans
but
in
fact
implement
them
as
well.
And
so
we
think
this
is
a
great
program
and
process
to
kind
of
partner
with
and
do
implementation
through
afternoons
to
hope.
E
E
So
I'm
the
deputy
executive
director
for
the
urban
redevelopment
authority,
which
is
the
city's
economic
development
agency,
so
we
are
responsible
for
helping
city
planning
to
implement
a
lot
of
those
adopted,
neighborhood
plans,
and
so
our
emergent
strategy
around
economic
development
is
to
look
at
it
beyond
the
massive
huge
project
and
instead
to
start
to
focus
on
eye
level
development
and
how
that
impacts.
The
quality
of
life
in
neighborhoods,
particularly
in
black
neighborhoods.
E
And
so
you
know
not
that
the
ura
won't
focus
on
big
projects.
But
I
think
that
you
know
there's
a
comma
in
that
sentence
where
we
also
have
to
think
about
how
do
those
big
projects
impact
the
surrounding
community
from
a
jobs
perspective,
from
a
housing
perspective
and
from
a
commercial
you
know
revitalization
perspective.
And
how
can
we
leverage
the
macro
level
economic
development
activity,
that's
happening
and
make
making
sure
that
it
has
maximum
impact,
but
that
we
don't
undermine
or
undervalue
the
micro
level?
B
F
Thank
you.
This
is
my
first
time
on
black
pittsburgh
matters,
but
I'm
very
honored
to
be
invited
to
share
the
panel
with
all
of
the
guests
that
are
here
today,
and
so
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
the
chief
development
officer
for
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
way
that
I
like
to
describe
what
the
housing
authority
does
is
we
provide
a
foundation
of
affordable
housing
and
permanent
housing
for
individuals
who
are
extremely
low
income,
very
low
income
or
the
folks
that
are
the
working
poor
within
the
city.
F
This
means
traditional
public
housing
as
well
as
affordable
housing
through
the
mixed
finance
developments
that
we
support
through
funding
and
other
by
through
other
means
as
well,
and
when
I
really
think
about
it,
we
pr
we
play
three
critical
roles.
We
are
partners,
we're
providers
and
we're
supporters
of
the
work
that
happens
throughout
the
city
as
a
catalyst
in
many
communities,
deeply
impacted
oftentimes,
we're
the
last
lead
and
oftentimes.
F
We
are
the
first
to
put
our
money
in
when
it's
time
to
reinvest,
and
so
the
housing
authority
is
a
as
a
bridge
between
the
federal
funding
through
the
housing
and
urban
development,
as
well
as
to
tie
together
local
resources
and
investments
from
private
developers
as
well.
So
the
housing
authority
really
is
concerned
about
development,
but
then
also
about
the
people
that
are
housed
in
our
developments
and
that
can
take
advantage
of
or
need
housing
throughout.
The
city.
B
No,
I
was
gonna,
really
didn't
didn't
we
just
get
a
visit
from
the
the
the
director
hud
recently.
You
want
to.
F
The
secretary
of
the
agency,
housing
in
housing
and
urban
development
secretary
ben
carson
paid
a
visit
to
bedford
dwellings
to
the
new
envision
center
that
exists
there.
It
was
a
really
unique
opportunity
to
to
focus
on
the
great
work
that
we're
doing
oftentimes
when
people
think
development,
they
think
the
bricks
and
sticks
they
think
the
actual
buildings.
F
But
the
envision
center
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
provide
direct
resident
services
to
provide
a
catalyst
through
our
computer
lab
or
the
support
services
or
any
of
the
many
services
that
they
can
gain
by
going
to
the
envision
center.
And
so
it
really
was
quite
an
event
and
it
highlighted
the
work
that
we're
doing
for
both
our
residents
as
well
as
in
the
community.
A
So
since
you
mentioned
bedford
dwellings,
you
all
have
done
a
significant
amount
of
work
in
the
east
end
and
revs
district
rebuilding
public
housing.
You
all
were
successful
in
receiving
a
choice,
neighborhood
that
is
still
ongoing.
I
was
actually
out
there
last
week
and
I
was
shocked
and
amazed
at
some
of
the
the
wonderful
parks
and
the
homes
that
have
gone
up,
but
that
doesn't
come
easy
right,
there's
a
very
long,
contiguous,
arduous
process
to
get
to
that
point,
and
we
are
attempting
to
go
through
that
now
in
the
hill
district.
A
F
Well,
as
I
said
the
one
of
the
first
ways
I
see
ourselves
as
partners,
you
cannot
do
it
alone,
working
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
with
the
urban
redevelopment
authority
with
the
those
teams.
It
is
a
really
grassroots
also,
so
it
has
to
be
the
residents
living
in
the
community
and
it's
really
a
partnership.
It
does
not
happen
easily.
It
is
not
oftentimes
a
straightforward
process,
as
I've
told
people
on
many
occasions.
F
Development
is
it's
a
winding
road
and
in
order
to
make
it
down
that
winding
road,
you
have
to
have
everyone's
eyes,
their
ears,
all
hands
on
deck,
and
so
what
it
takes
to
do
this
development,
these
types
of
developments,
besides
a
lot
of
investment,
it
takes
a
commitment.
A
grassroots
people
in
the
community
have
to
want
the
community
to
change
and
have
to
want
and
be
curious
about
the
ways
that
that
can
happen.
So
it
takes
a
partnership.
One
of
the
things
that
we
do
quite
aggressively
is
outreach.
F
We
take
time
in
developing
outreach
plans
and
bringing
people
to
the
table
oftentimes.
It's
not
just
necessarily,
as
I
mentioned
straightforward,
but
it's
really
critical,
so
it
takes
partnership.
It
takes
an
investment
from
both
the
city
through
the
ura,
it
takes
land
and
it
also
takes
an
understanding
of
the
federal
rules
and
regulations.
F
We
have
an
arduous
mountain
to
climb
when
it
comes
to
redevelopment
and
it
comes
to
following
the
federal
rules
for
everything
from
procurement
to
building
those
partnerships
and
then
also
the
investment
from
equity
partners
and
they're
meeting
their
expectations
as
far
as
what
do
they
expect
to
see
when
it
gets
on
the
ground
from,
and
so
it
is
quite
an
aggressive
and
a
very
arduous
process,
but
it's
doable,
and
so
that's
where
I
think
it's
really
critical
to
make
sure
that
people
know
that
if
you
are
interested
in
doing
this
type
of
work.
F
B
So
the
other
thing
that
we've
done,
you
know
we've
done
the
choice
and
now
the
other
big
thing,
although
not
a
choice,
but
I
think,
would
have
the
choice
like
consequences
effects.
Is
this
new
avenues
of
hope,
and
so
we
have
with
us
the
imani
walker
who
in
many
ways
is
the
architect
of
the
avenues
of
hope
and
diamante.
Today
I
met
with
a
major
commercial
retailer
in
our
city
and
was
shocked
that
that
retailer
says
I'm
committed
to
avenues
of
hope.
B
I
want
to
facilitate
that
process
and
I'm
going
to
bring
resources
to
participate.
I
was
I
I
didn't
expect
it
it's.
I
think
the
response
has
been
exciting.
So
why
don't
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
explain
the
avenues
to
hope
a
little
bit.
E
This
is
fundamentally
the
vision
of
of
you
and
and
councilman
lavelle
to
rethink
how
we
invest
in
black
neighborhoods
and
how
we
both
quantify
and
qualify
that
that
investment
and
how
we
pair
that
qualification
and
quantification,
with
improving
neighborhood
experience
and
quality
of
life
for
black
pittsburghers,
and
so
the
ura
has
been
called
to
action
to
become
a
strategic
one
thought
partner
and
an
implementation
partner
to
see
how
we
can
take
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
over
the
last,
maybe
two
or
three
years
since
councilman
lavelle,
and
I
have
sort
of
been
working
on
this
and
trying
to
you
know,
drive
investment
and
resources
to
black
neighborhoods.
E
How
can
we
start
to
leverage
that
as
a
model
and
to
you
know
now
that
we
have
proof
of
concept
on
center
avenue?
Can
that
approach
work
across
the
city?
It
is
not
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
do
development
because
it
is,
it
is
experimental
when
it
is
a
pilot,
but
it
is
about
40
to
50
years
too
late,
and
so
I
I
think
when
we
announced
that
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
this
is
not
really
a
congratulatory
moment
for
the
public
sector.
E
It
is
really
a
reticent
moment
where
we
have
to
think
about.
You
know
how
do
we
start
to
look
at
our
resources
in
such
a
way
that
it
aligns
with
the
value
that
is
already
indigenous
in
neighborhoods?
E
Is
it
it?
And
one
thing
it
looks
like
the
bricks
and
mortar,
but
I
think
it
also
incites
a
feeling
of
of
hope
so
that
people
understand
that
this
is
not
development
at
their
expense.
This
is
development
centered
on
their
experiences,
their
hopes
in
their
dreams,
but
it's
going
to
take
an
all-in
strategy,
so
I
am
so
excited
to
see
the
other
faces
on
the
phone,
because
we
need
a
city
planning.
E
We
need
monique
at
the
housing
authority
monique,
and
I
have
had
really
long
conversations
about
development
and
different
creative
ways
to
do
this
and
approach
this,
and
so
you
call
me
the
architect
of
avenues
of
hope.
I
wouldn't
take
take
that
much
credit
for
it,
but,
but
you
know
the
the
smart
folks
at
the
ura
have
worked
diligently
with
me
to
think
about
a
way
to
look
at
all
the
work
that
we've
already
been
doing
around
mwb
around
access
to
capital
about
cultivating
a
pipeline
of
black
developers
working
with
women
entrepreneurs.
E
How
can
we
take
all
of
that?
All
of
that
work?
That
seems
a
little
bit
different
right
now
and
bring
it
under
one
focused,
simple
results,
and
so
looking
at
the
seven
avenues
we
have
homewood,
we
have
larmor,
we
have
center,
we
have
second
avenue.
We
have
warrington
avenue,
north
and
south
perrysville
and
chartiers
avenue.
So
if
you
look
at
that
geography,
those
are
all
of
the
intersections
of
black
life.
You
know
people
are
tired
of
being
frustrated.
E
People
are
tired
of
having
a
different
lived
experience
than
what
they
see
in
shady
side
by
nature
of
their
zip
code,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
scourge
not
only
on
the
public
sector,
but
it's
also
a
scourge
on
those
of
us
who
have
the
power
to
coalesce
private
partnerships,
the
ability
to
pull
together,
non-profits
and
just
to
create
that
mighty
fist
that
can
do
development
in
a
different
way.
I'm
very
excited
about
the
initiative.
E
The
response
has
been
overwhelmingly
positive,
but
with
that
positive
response
is
going
to
have
to
come
real
action,
not
rhetoric,
not
words,
not
fancy
posters
and
hashtags,
but
actual
investment
and
actual
results.
So,
as
we
get
to
this
budgetary
season,
we
are
looking
at
at
the
balance
sheet,
we're
looking
at
the
numbers
as
to
you
know.
What
will
it
take
to
see
some
tangible
results
in
2021
we're
already
seeing
them
in
2020,
but
it's
a
multi-year
strategy.
It's
a
multi-agency
strategy
and
it's
not
something
that
we
can
do
in.
A
So
christopher
diamante
mentioned
gentrification,
which
is
a
tough
issue,
at
least
for
me
to
grapple
with.
We
are
attempting
to
rebuild
affordable
housing
in
our
communities.
At
the
same
time,
we
know
we
need
market
rate
development
in
order
to
support
a
grocery
store
for
an
example
that
needs
disposable
income.
We
know
we
need
some
market
forces
in
order
to
support
the
avenues
of
hope
right.
So
we're
going
to
rebuild
a
black
business
district.
A
We
have
to
have
individuals
there
who
can
actually
service
that
this
business
district,
but
at
the
same
time,
as
the
director
noted,
there
are
those
who
are
fearful
of
when
we
rebuild
center
avenue
when
we
rebuild
bedford
dwellings.
When
this
activity
takes
place,
others
will
see
value
in
it.
We'll
come
to
the
neighborhood
values
increase
and
we
slowly
get
gentrified
out
of
our
neighborhood.
D
But
one
thing
that
diamante
said
was:
it
is
almost
40
or
50
years
too
late,
and
so,
when
we're
looking
at
planning,
it's
almost
avenues
of
hope
is
probably
coming
at
the
most
perfect
time
right
now,
where
we
are
seeing
a
social
and
civil
unrest
and
we're
looking
for
answers
and
people
are
holding
officials
accountable
for
things
that
have
happened
and
continue
to
happen,
so
that's
systemic
and
with
avenues
of
hope.
I
think
it
is
giving
our
communities
hope
that
you
deserve
development.
You
deserve
that
coffee
shop.
You
deserve
a
grocery
store.
D
You
deserve
quality
housing.
These
are
all
things
that
essentially
build
a
strong
network
in
the
neighborhood,
and
so
when
we
are
putting
things
that
our
residents,
our
neighbors
identified
with,
I
think
that
that
is
not
gentrification,
that
is
equitable
development,
and
so
it's
very
important
that
we
move
that
forward
and
let
this
be
community
driven
and
engage
the
community
in
a
way
that
we
are
working
with
smaller
developers
and
we're.
D
Looking
at
companies
that
our
our
residents,
our
neighbors,
are
already
using
to
put
in
on
an
avenue
of
in
their
own
community
throughout
the
nation,
we
have
seen
gentrification
happen
and
you
know
sometimes
it
has
happened
in
a
way
that
perhaps
someone
in
the
very
beginning
wasn't
given
in
thought.
D
I
will
say
comfortably
that
we
all
on
this
call
are
definitely
given
that
thought,
and
so
we
will
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
curate,
if
you
will
some
type
of
commercial
business,
that
lends
lends
more
equity
than
it
is
just
development,
and
I
think
that's
the
way
that
we
are
turning
we're
looking
to
be
more
inclusive
in
development
and
more
equitable.
D
C
Well,
I
think
at
at
the
bottom
of
everything
is
an
acknowledgement
that
people
have
legitimate
reason
to
view
the
world
differently,
that
homeowners,
who
have
been
in
the
community
a
long
time
and
people
who
are
moving
into
the
community
as
renters
often
come
in
with
different
perspectives
and
different
ideas
of
what
success
looks
like.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
in
the
health
program
is
work
hard
to
develop
a
common
language.
C
What
what
does
a
successful
community
look
like
people
have
been
using
the
terms,
equitable
development
and
non-displacement?
Well,
let's
talk
about
homewood
homewood,
the
land
mass
of
homewood
comfort,
comfortably
held
30
000
people
50
years
ago.
Now
that
same
land
mass
holds
approximately
6
000
people.
C
So,
as
we
begin
to
talk
about
opportunities
for
development,
it's
clear
that
you
don't
have
to
move
anyone
out
in
order
to
to
build
the
community.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
is
emphasizing
that
we're
not
talking
at
all
about
displacement
and,
in
fact,
anti-displacement
non-displacement
is
a
core
part
of
what
we
do.
C
But
those
are
challenges
that
we
can
meet,
and
these
are
the
problems
of
the
21st
century
and
what
pam
and
I
do
is
help
consultants
is
not
only
bring
people
in
who
are
representing
diverse
perspectives
in
the
community,
but
we
also
look
at.
What's
happened
in
other
cities,
this
pittsburgh
is
not
the
first
city,
that's
going
through
the
challenge
of
growing
in
its
urban
core,
so
linking
with
the
ura
linking
with
city
planning
linking
with
private
developers
and
really
understanding
where
the
sweet
spot
is
for
development.
A
So
so
ron
as
a
follow-up,
because
you
mentioned
people
not
want
to
be
displaced,
you
also
mentioned
sort
of
the
clash
between
races,
cultures,
part
of
what
I've
discovered
is
when
we
talk
about
gentrification.
Yes,
there's
a
concern
about.
I
physically
have
to
move,
but
there's
also
the
grave
concern
about
cultural
gentrification
and
sort
of
losing
the
identity
of
a
neighborhood
the
businesses
in
those
neighborhoods.
A
In
some
respects
we
could
look
at
east
liberty
right
when
I
was
young
east
liberty
was
a
place
where
I
could
go,
walk
down,
penn
avenue,
buy,
bootleg
cds,
buy
clothes,
buy
everything
I
needed
on
one
street
and
the
men
had
their
tables
out
and
I
could
buy
books
off
the
tables
and
everything
else
you
can't
do
any
of
that.
Nowadays,
you
have
a
couple
businesses
left,
but
people
are
also
very
fearful
sort
of
losing.
A
That
can
you
talk
about-
and
I
think
avenues
of
hope
gets
to
this,
because
we're
trying
to
rebuild
the
community
with
these
and
with
the
individuals
already
live
there.
But
can
you
talk
about
some
of
the
how
we
protect
the
cultural
gentrification
as
well.
C
There
were
two
points
that
that
that
I'd
make
immediately
one
is
that
the
past
is
not
prolonged,
the
the
the
kind
of
things
that
went
on
well,
let
me
speak
personally,
I'm
from
the
hill
district
and
when
I
was
a
kid
in
the
hill
district
center
avenue
and
kirkpatrick
street
were
the
most
important
intersection
in
the
black
community
and
over
the
past
50
years,
that's
changed.
I
think
the
most
important
thing
daniel
is
recognizing
the
difficulty
in
having
some
of
these
discussions.
C
That,
as
we
begin
to
think
about
issues
of
cultural
representation,
I
would
argue
that
there
are
points
in
east
liberty
that
are
failures,
that
that's
my
personal
opinion.
I
I
don't
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
help
initiative,
but
I
had
my
office
in
homewood
for
35
years,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
businesses
that
are
along
penn
avenue
are
not
businesses
that
are
really
open
and
accessible
by
wage
earners,
who
don't
make
a
moderate
or
high
income.
C
I
believe
that
avenues
of
hope
in
the
other
communities
that
have
been
named
homewood
avenue
center
avenue,
larmer
going
up
into
sheridan
and
some
of
the
other
others
on
the
north
side,
that
keeping
people
of
african
descent
at
the
table
in
leadership
positions
and
really
listening
to
honoring
and
really
making
sure
that
the
culture
that
they
bring
to
the
table
is
in
no
way
rejected
or
overwrought
by
new
people
coming
in.
But
it
will
be
challenging.
B
One
of
the
things
I
want
you
we,
as
you
know,
pittsburgh,
is
in
the
midst
of
affordable
housing
crisis
right.
We
have
more
people
who
need
houses
than
houses
they
can
afford
and
as
we
build
new,
affordable
housing,
there's
this
stigma
about
affordable
housing
or
about
public
housing
in
particular.
B
In
fact,
the
recent
housing
we
did
in
homewood
with
the
housing
authority.
There
were
people
who
protested
the
housing
and
then
saying
that
it
would
bring
down
their
property
rates
and
then,
after
the
development
was
built,
they
sold
that
same
property
for
eight
or
ten
times
more
that
it
was
worth
before
the
development.
So
just
I
just
want
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
the
housing
authority
does,
how
it
does
its
business
and
the
kind
of
product
it
has
and
how
it
you
know
how
it
tries
to.
B
How
is
the
things
it's
doing
to
try
to
meet
the
needs
for
for
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh?.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
I
I
I
would
say
that
the
housing
authority
is
part
of
the
fabric
of
the
community,
we're
already
here.
Our
residents
are
active
and
the
folks
that
we
work
with
are
part
and
parcel
to
the
to
everything
that
happens
in
the
community
all
throughout
the
city.
So
when
we
go
in
to
do
work,
oftentimes
we're
already
working
where
we
have
been
working
and
looking
for
new
ways
and
exciting
ways
to
change
the
dynamic
of
how
it
looks
you
mentioned
and-
and
your
other
guests
have
mentioned
gentrification.
F
Well,
I
think
it
it
helps
by
or
the
housing
authority
helps
by
bringing
in
partners
working
with
the
community
and
the
grassroots
groups
and
making
everyone
be
responsible
for
their
own
understanding
and
acceptance
and
adoption
of
the
communities
in
which
they're
coming
into,
especially
in
mixed
income
communities.
Now
traditionally,
communities,
weren't,
so
hyper,
segregated
by
income.
F
There
are
oftentimes
when,
especially
in
the
community,
I
grew
up
in
at
least
you
could
go
across
the
alley
and
there
would
be
a
teacher
or
there
would
be
a
doctor
down
the
street
or
someone
their
their
communities
were
not
so
segregated
from
economically
from
an
economic
perspective,
and
so
I
think
that
the
way
that
we
do
our
work
in
bringing
back
mixed
income
communities,
as
you
mentioned,
homewood
and
looking
for
ways
to
bring
market
rate
units
in
the
same
buildings
and
in
the
same
streets,
the
same
neighborhoods
that
you
have
affordable
or
subsidized
units,
and
so
the
way
that
we
work
is
that
we
look
at
the
community
as
a
whole.
F
What
are
the
real
housing
needs?
We
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
we're
congruent
that
we
are
fitting
in
with
what
the
work
that
needs
to
happen
is
and
then
figure
out
a
way
to
make
that
happen.
It's
not
driven
by
what
we
think
it's
driven
by
the
community
needs
are,
and
so,
when
you
take
that
perspective,
we
also,
I
think,
it's
really
critical
to
point
out
that
we
also
are
proponents
of
providing
the
additional
supports
that
our
residents
need.
F
Moving
from
a
traditional
public
housing
environment
can
be
a
little
bit
of
culture
shock,
moving
into
a
mixed
finance,
where
there
are
other
folks
that
are
coming
in
and
have
a
different
perspective
about
what
their
community
should
look
like
or
how
they
like
to
conduct
themselves,
and
so
it
it's
all
about
culture.
It's
all
about
understanding
and
building
bridges
between
individuals
coming
in
and
those
who've
remained
in
the
community.
F
So
the
housing
authority
goes
about
it,
trying
to
be
as
delicate
as
we
can
and
not
going
in
and
just
bulldozing
everything
and
coming
in
with
something
brand
new
and
saying:
okay,
just
just
deal
with
it,
it's
a
it's
about
bringing
people
to
the
table
and
building
understanding
and
building
that
sense
of
responsibility
for
coming
into
the
community.
If
you're
coming
in,
you
need
to
be
respectful
and
that's
where
we
start.
A
So
so
towards
that
end-
and
this
is,
you
can
certainly
respond,
monique
or
anyone
else
can
for
that
matter,
but
as
we
sort
of
rebuild
these
communities
there's
an
example
of
when
we
rebuild.
I
think
it
was
okay
at
the
time
and
some
residents
who
moved
back
from
the
original
development
there
were
looking
to
have
a
gathering.
A
They
took
their
speakers,
posted
them
up
to
the
windows
and
blasted
their
music
outside
for
everyone
to
hear
in
their
mind,
this
was
actually
a
good
thing
because
they
were
sharing
their
music
with
others
around
them.
Who
may
not
have
had
a
stereo.
However,
some
of
the
newer
residents
were
a
little
off
put
by.
Why
are
you
doing
this,
and
why
are
you
blasting
music,
in
my
where
I'm
staying
now?
A
F
Well,
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
point
out
is
that
there
are
more
similarities
than
there
are
differences
in
our
residence.
People
want
a
place
to
live,
they
want
peace,
they
want.
You
know
a
great
safe
nice
place.
That's
clean
and
well
maintained
now
how
they
utilize
that
resource
can
be
different
at
different
times,
and
so
we
try
to
make
sure
that
folks
understand
that
these
are
your
neighbors.
We
don't
identify
or
point
out
anybody.
That's
different
like
oh,
that
person's
affordable
or
this
per
or
their
income
is
maybe
lower.
F
Your
income
is
higher
there's,
no.
Those
distinctions
are
not
made,
and
it's
intentional
and
it's
part
of
the
part
and
parcel
to
the
privacy
and
their
rights.
What
I
would
say
about
also
our
residents
and
we
have.
We
have
housing,
that's
all
throughout
the
city.
F
You
can
look
at
a
housing
authority
awarded
house
and
you
would
not
know
that
it
is
affordable
housing.
You
don't
know
who
has
protect
potentially
a
section
8
voucher
living
in
your
community.
We
don't
have
marked
vehicles
when
we
come
around
to
do
any
type
of
maintenance
or
support
provide
supports
for
them.
F
So
you
would
never
know
it
could
be
your
neighbor
right
now,
so
we
try
to
be
as
innocuous
as
we
can
with
regard
to
pointing
folks
out,
but
to
your
point
I
think
that
it's
also
understanding
that,
even
so,
for
instance,
through
our
scattered
sites,
there's
a
work
requirement
you're.
You
know
you
have
to
have
two
years
of
work
and
before
you
can
even
qualify
for
one
of
the
scatter
sites
units.
So
it's
not
so
much.
F
As
I
said,
the
differences
there
are
a
lot
of
similarities
and
capitalizing
on
those
bringing
people
together
around
their
similarities,
bringing
people
together
around
opportunities
to
beautify
the
community,
your
opportunities
to
participate,
and
hopefully
once
the
covid
crisis
has
kind
of
gone
down.
We'll
have
those
opportunities
to
capitalize
on
those
similarities
again
through
community
activities
through
the
supports
that
are
provided-
and
I
think,
even
so,
in
this
crisis,
people
are
seeing
that
we
are
much
more
similar
than
we
are
different
working
from
home
or
involving
yourself
more
in
what's
happening
in
your
building.
F
We,
I
think,
starting
to
value
more
the
people
around
us
so.
C
And
if,
if
I
may
make
the
point,
I
spent
15
years
as
an
educator
at
carnegie,
mellon
university
in
the
grad
school,
and
I
taught
a
course
called
managing
in
a
multicultural
society,
and
it
was
the
course
that
was
mandatory
for
all
full-time
public
policy
majors,
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
developing
strategies
and
building
the
expertise
to
have
some
of
these
multicultural
multi-economic
discussions
in
communities
that
are
emerging,
because
if
you
look
at
it
things
like
community
development
block
grants
when
those
grants
are
given,
and
you
ask
the
community
what
best
personifies
a
facade
program
along
a
business
district.
C
You
may
find
that
there's
a
diversity
of
perspectives
that
some
people
may
say.
Let's
celebrate
the
history
of
our
community
from
60
years
ago
and
another
person
may
say
I
wanted
to
be
a
hip-hop
ambiance,
because
that's
the
most
important
thing
to
them,
culturally
and
going
back
to
something
that
was
said
earlier.
This
ain't
easy
that
having
some
of
these
discussions
will
require
a
lot
of
of
work
and
a
lot
of
the
work
is
not
among
people
who
are
of
different
races.
C
Some
of
the
most
telling
discussions
or
disagreements
that
I've
had
in
my
career
are
black
folks
against
black
folks.
Just
just
put
that
out
there,
where
black
folks
really
argued
strenuously
using
dan's
example
of
blasting
the
music.
C
It
takes
work
to
ameliorate
and
address
cultural
clash,
and
it's
a
science.
It
is
a
profession.
C
E
If
I
can
add
one
other
note
on
that,
if
it's
okay,
you
know
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
I
think
one
thing
that
we
don't
realize
is
that
affordable
housing
is
not
the
same
thing
as
lo
same
thing
as
low-income
housing,
in
that
people
in
pittsburgh
will
tell
you
that
there
is
very
little
low-income
housing
available.
Hacp
may
be
the
largest
provider
of
high
quality,
low-income
housing.
That
is
not
in
a
mixed
income
community.
E
And
so
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
we
really
have
to
think
about
what's
economically
feasible,
we
can
all
afford
a
different
type
of
housing
on
this
call,
so
affordable
housing
for
me
isn't
going
to
be
the
same
as
what
it
is
for
somebody
else.
So
we
use
that
term
and
we
conflate
it
with
poverty,
and
I
think
what
people
have
to
understand
is
that,
because
we
have
an
income
crisis
in
pittsburgh,
people
that
are
making
a
pretty
decent
living.
E
So
we
are
talking
about
the
symptoms,
the
lack
of
availability
of
affordable
housing
and
we're
not
talking
a
lot
about
the
root
cause
and
how
these
systems
and
these
institutions
need
to
start
to
disrupt
that
vicious
cycle.
So
that's
another.
One
of
my
hopes
for
avenues
of
hope
is
that
we
begin
to
stop
painting
everything
with
such
a
broad
brush
and
painting
everybody
with
the
brush,
because
the
one
thing
that
is
really
plaguing
black
communities,
particularly
black
communities
in
pittsburgh.
E
I
don't
think
that
it's
cultural
clash,
I
think
it's
a
class
clash
and
we
haven't
yet
learned
about
how
to
talk
about
the
the
the
the
economic
strata
on
which
black
people
exist
and
how
appetites
on
one
side
of
that
strata
is
one
thing
and,
on
the
other
side,
it's
another,
and
there
is
this
level
of
income
privilege
that
comes
with
that.
D
D
Interesting
too,
and
everyone's
comments
about
affordability
and
the
stigma
that
comes
with
affordable
housing.
I
think
that
through
affordable
housing
and
as
I'm
co-leading,
the
city-wide
housing
initiatives
here
in
pittsburgh,
I'm
always
reminded
that
the
working
class
or
middle
working
class
or
needs
affordable,
housing
too.
So
in
2015,
the
city
embarked
on
the
housing
needs
assessment
and
it
was
identified
that
we
had
a
gap
of
20
000
housing
units
that
we
needed
for
affordable
housing,
and
so
one
thing
that
we're
working
on
now
from
the
department
is
to
update
that
housing
needs
assessment.
D
The
housing
needs
assessment
will
be
particularly
helpful
for
avenues
of
hope
going
to
our
comp
plan
and
economic
development,
because
we
do
need
to
identify
where
we
really
need
that
gap
to
be
filled,
and
I
think
if
anyone
wants
to
say
well,
how
are
we
going
to
do
it?
I
think
this
is
a
good
starting
team
right
here
to
kind
of
take
the
lead
and
take
the
charge
and
use
that
data
and
really
make
impactful
change.
A
So
we're
coming
up
on
our
hour,
so
I
want
to
bring
micah
in
who's,
been
monitoring
the
live
questions
so
that
she
can
ask
a
few
of
those
questions.
But
chris
just
has
a
follow-up.
A
The
housing
needs
assessment
when,
when
it
gets
conducted,
we'll
also
be
able
to
look
at
a
community
and
say
yes,
we're
shorted
we're
short
of
this
amount
of
housing.
But
if
we're
looking
at
this
community
comprehensively,
we
should
really
be
targeting
this
level
of
market
rate.
This
level
of
affordable
this
level
of
workforce
will
they
be
able
to
get
into
the
weeds
like
that
for
communities.
D
Yeah,
what
I
the
hope
is
that
and
listening
to
this
call
too.
We
want
a
well-rounded
balance
throughout
the
city
and,
I
think,
even
to
monique's
point
of
if
we
have
saturated,
affordable
housing
in
one
area,
we're
going
to
see
those
certain
cultural
clashes
or
class
classes,
as
someone
mentioned.
But
if
we
see
it
spread
out,
there
are
neighborhoods
that
can
withstand
more
affordable
housing
than
than
they
have
now.
D
And
so,
if
we're
looking
at
a
more
inclusive
pittsburgh,
we're
looking
at
affordable
housing
throughout
and
again
that
isn't
like
when
we
say
affordable,
housing
and,
unfortunately,
has
such
a
terrible
stigma,
but
we're
looking
at
the
working
class
or
the
single
parent
who
cannot
afford
quality
housing
and
ultimately
have
to
live
in
a
place
where
he
or
she
does
not
feel
that's
desirable
for
them.
So
how
do
we
kind
of
blur
some
of
these
neighborhood
boundaries
and
just
seek
opportunities
where
we
have
a
stable
housing
stock
for
more
people
to
afford?
G
Apologies,
yes,
so
our
first
question
was
from
donna
she
said,
as
counseling
spoke
of
the
30
million
dollars
you
received
for
the
development
with
the
housing
authority,
along
with
other
partners,
we'd
like
to
see
a
little
more
funding
to
finish
the
alarm
or
corridor.
B
E
Oh,
you
know
we'll
probably
have
to
tackle
this
together,
as
you
said,
but
I
think
that
so
when
you
look
at
the
ura
and
the
work
that
the
ura
has
done
around
the
choice,
neighborhood,
which
was
reimagining,
what
rental
looks
like
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
some
some
tangential
support
for
the
surrounding
homeownership
community,
the
business
district
had
not
it's
not,
but
it
is
in
process.
And
so
what
what
I
will
say,
the
ura
is
doing.
E
We
are
actually
going
to
serve
as
the
leaseholder
for
a
major
commercial
space
along
the
corridor,
which
will
allow
small
minority
owner
black
home
businesses
to
be
able
to
get
into
that
rental,
that
commercial
rental
market
relatively
affordably,
the
ura
leverages
the
housing
opportunity
fund,
which
is
a
10
million
dollar
trust
fund.
We
leverage
that
into
about
40
million
dollars
of
affordable
housing
investment
across
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
E
It
is
our
hope
in
this
budgetary
cycle
to
be
able
to
do
some
of
commercial
leverage
that
could
be
on
par
with
what
we
see
on
the
housing
side.
It
would
be
a
pilot
year
for
something
like
that,
but
I
am
talking
to
two
council
folks
here
in
and
hoping
that
you
know
that
we
can
work
across
the
island
and
be
very
creative
in
how
we
think
about
that.
Larmor
has
been
identified
as
a
as
an
avenue
of
hope.
It
has
a
plan,
I
believe
at
least
maybe
in
the
choice
neighborhood
context.
E
B
F
Well,
I
I
will
have
to
say
that,
if
you're
referring
to
and
that's
part
of
the
east
liberty
choice,
neighborhood
activities
and
so
currently
we're
looking
at
the
support
for
the
housing.
As
you
know,
the
housing
authority
we
do
housing,
but
there's
also
a
partnership
with
the
ura
for
the
investment
in
the
commercial
portion
of
that
there's
an
auditorium.
There
was
an
old
gymnasium
that
needed
to
be
utilized
in
some
way
and
so
working
with
our
partners.
They're
able
to
look
at
how
do
we
bring
a
commercial
aspect
to
that?
F
So
as
part
of
the
corridors
of
hope,
looking
at
the
how
we
build
that
economic
support,
the
housing
supports
the
businesses,
no
people,
nobody
to
patronize
the
businesses,
so
we
have
to
have
the
people
we
have
to
bring
the
folks
into
the
community
and
then
look
at
how
do
we
sustain
it
in
order
to
be
able
to
sustain
the
businesses,
so
perhaps
diamante
could
look
a
little
more
closely
or
address
a
little
more
closely
the
economic
development
portion
which
would
fall
more
into
her
baileywick.
So
with
that
I'll
hand
that
over.
B
Let
me
say
a
little
bit
to
the
person
who's
watching
us
that
rebuilding
laura.
We
cannot
do
it
with
public
dollars
alone
right
as
much
of
the
public
dollars
we
put
in
we're
only
going
to
rebuild
a
fraction
of
the
land
space
of
warmer,
even
400,
homes
is
still
a
fraction
of
the
land
space.
There
are
other
entities
such
as
a
school
there's
a
couple
there's
a
school
that
wants
to
put
a
a
park
an
athletic
field
there.
B
We
have
another
organization,
wants
to
push
the
squash
building
there,
that
you
really
need
to
pull.
You
need
to
partner
with
a
ver,
because
you
have
so
much
land.
What
you
really
want
to
do
is
partner
with
a
variety
of
sources,
to
bring
a
variety
of
of
venues
to
the
neighborhood
so
that
it
will
be
attractive
to
a
cross
section
of
people,
because
each
venue
brings
its
own
kind
of
unique
person
into
the
community
which
which
will
support
its
own
unique
businesses.
B
E
A
mute,
it's
gonna
take
public
private
partnerships,
and
so
I
really
you
know
our
role
in
this
is
to
if
we
go
sort
of
first
money
in
that
starts
to
attract
philanthropic
partners,
corporate
partners
who
then
start
to
deem
these
places
worthy
of
investment.
Looking
at
the
investment
of
the
city
in
the
u.s,
is
sort
of
a
backstop
and
a
guarantee.
So
this
I
said
in
the
beginning
that
this
is
not
a
one
agency
strategy.
The
ura
is
the
partner
in
this.
E
We
don't
own
the
entirety
of
avenues
of
hope,
but
we'll
certainly
continue
to
listen
to
the
community
and
try
to
forge
partnerships
that
are
going
to
produce
results.
G
E
Okay,
so
the
question
was:
why
are
there
so
few
black
businesses
in
pittsburgh?
Yes,
okay,
all
right!
So
I
I
guess
that's
a
proportional
question
we
make
up
about.
You
know
what
is
it
like
26
of
the
population
in
pittsburgh,
and
I
think
that
african-american
women
are
the
fastest
growing
sector
of
you
know,
starting
and
in
developing
businesses.
I
think
I
think
part
of
the
challenge
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
talking
about.
E
I
don't
think
that
we
do
a
good
enough
job
in
helping
people
to
understand
the
types
of
businesses
that
are
worth
starting.
So
our
startup
strategy
in
pittsburgh
leaves
a
lot
to
be
there's
a
lot
to
be
desired,
and
so
we
see
a
burgeoning
sort
of
lifestyle,
business
atmosphere,
ecosystem
starting
to
emerge,
but
I
I
would
love
to
see
pittsburgh
sort
of
have
a
big
hairy,
audacious
goal
of
being
the
place
where
black
people
should
come
to
start
businesses,
and
when
we
look
at
our
existing
population,
how
can
we?
E
How
can
we
start
communicating
and
educating
in
a
way
where
people
can
build
businesses
around
cottage
industry?
So
what
is
upmc
purchasing?
What
are
some
of
our
you
know
what
what
are
tech
firms
doing
and
how
do
we
start
aligning
people
with
those
interests,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
we've
done
enough
work
on
that.
I've
been
working
over
the
last
couple
of
years
to
start
to
look
at
that,
but
there's
a
lot
more
to
be
done,
but
we
need
a
comprehensive
startup
business
strategy
in
pittsburgh
and
then
the
other
piece
that
is
missing.
E
There's
this
big
gap
for
growth
like
we're
not
talking
to
black
businesses,
about
how
to
scale
and
grow
in
pittsburgh,
and
so,
if
it's
hard
to
get
a
contract
in
pittsburgh,
not
just
with
the
public
sector
but
in
the
corporate
sector,
you're
going
to
go
to
another
market
where
people
are
going
to
make
it
easier
to
do
business.
Pittsburgh
has
to
get
out
of
this.
This
loop
of
talking
about
diversity
and
inclusion,
and
I
I
was
on
a
panel
earlier-
and
I
said
you
know,
diversity
and
inclusion
are
nouns.
We
need
to
diversify
and
include.
E
We
need
the
verbs
to
start
to
take
precedent
and
I
think
when
we
start
when
we
get
over
this
hit,
this
echo
chamber
hearing
ourselves
talk
about
it,
even
though
that's
important
and
we
start
doing
it
and
we
start
putting
our
money
and
our
influence
and
our
power
where
our
mouths
are.
I
think
we're
gonna
start
to
see
a
different
result.
F
F
We
need
to
look
at
an
expanded
ecosystem
and
to
become
a
magnet
for
other
into
other
interested
entrepreneurs
or
other
businesses
that
have
maybe
started
somewhere
else,
and
this
is
a
better
place
to
be,
and
so
often
times
if
you're
looking
at
those
type
of
businesses
that
that
are
cottage
industries-
they're,
not
just
local,
to
what's
in
the
city
limits,
but
we
have
to
think
maybe
regionally
about
how
to
bring
in
more
individuals
who
do
have
the
funds
to
invest
or
who
are
interested
in
partnering
with
residents
who
live
here
and
helping
them
understand
and
grow
businesses
that
can
have
a
global
impact
and
and
to
start
thinking
larger
around.
F
What
can
we
do
to
for
this
along
the
avenue?
What
can
we
do
for
that
business
to
be
impactful
regionally?
And
so
I
think
that
that's
something
to
consider.
A
Also
real
quick
director
walker,
the
ura,
you
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
to
actually
support
minority
businesses.
Here
in
the
city,
you
were
doing
it
pre-coveted
crisis,
but
you've,
even
given
it
more
light
since
kovitz.
So
for
those
who
are
watching
or
paying
attention,
if
you
could
just
share
quickly
some
of
the
resources
the
ura
does
have
that
to
support
minority
businesses
here
in
the
city.
E
So
we
so
when
I
got
to
the
ura
I
arrived
at
the
mwbe
program
officer
and
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
addressed
was
the
fact
that
the
ura
was
not
offering
a
product
that
was
right
suited
for
minority
and
women-owned
businesses,
so
we
developed
the
micro
loan
program
modeling
it
after
detroit's
program.
There
was
a
hesitancy
to
do
that
because
we,
you
know
folks
felt
like
well.
Maybe
they
won't
pay
back
these
loans.
E
It's
super
risky
detroit's
rate
at
that
time
was
like
eight
percent,
like
an
eight
percent
default
rate,
and
I
said
detroit
can
do
it.
Pittsburgh
can
too,
if,
if
not
beat
it,
and
so
we
have
so,
we
started
the
micro
loan
program
in
2018
and
the
reason
why
I
want
to
talk
about
that
is
because
that
became
the
model
and
the
format
to
be
able
to
very
quickly
create
an
emergency
loan
fund
program
for
those
experiencing
economic
strain.
During
covid
we
literally
changed
the
name
of
the
microblog
program
and
deployed
some
resources.
E
We
didn't
know
we
would
have
to
deploy
in
2020
in
order
to
start
helping
these
businesses
and
that's
been
subscribed
by
over
80
percent
of
80
of
those
borrowers
are
minority
or
women
owned
businesses,
and
so
out
of
that,
the
the
ura's
business
solutions
team
has
gotten
very
creative
about
creating
an
another,
a
whole
other
suite
of
programs,
helping
folks
get
online
and
create
e-commerce
platforms
if
they
didn't
have
web
presence
before
code.
E
But
now
they're
able
to
do
business
online
neighborhood
allies
is
our
partner
on
that
we
were
able
to
secure
10
million
dollars
in
funding
from
the
pits
from
pnc
foundation.
E
Six
and
a
half
million
of
that
has
gone
towards
creating
a
micro,
business
growth
and
recovery
fund
so
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
capital
for
minority
owned
businesses.
We've
also
provided
some.
You
know
we
pay
for
technical
assistance
for
minority
developers
to
do
the
pre-development
on
their
projects,
and
you
will
see
them
emerge
on
center
avenue
as
a
part
of
avenues
of
hope
and
helping
them
adapt
and
shift
their
performance
based
on
the
impacts
of
covet.
E
So
there's
a
if
you
go
to
www.ura.org,
you
will
see
a
listing
of
all
of
our
programs.
I'm
like
looking
at
my
phone
a
little
bit
here
because
we're
working
through
some
creative
solutions
to
some
dollars
that
may
come
down
to
continue
to
think
about
how
we
can
help
diverse
businesses
adapt
to
covet.
So
the
ura
started
doing
this
work
back
in
2017
2018,
councilman
lavelle.
B
Go
ahead
just
in
case
we
may
have
viewers
who
need
housing.
Would
you
explain
to
them?
How,
because
sometimes
even
I
they
call
me,
we
have
various
ways
that
you
enter
into
our
system
for
housing.
So
if
you
probably
just
go
through
a
little
bit
how
someone
applies
if
they
want
to
have
housing
with
the
housing
authority,
what's
the
process.
F
Well,
there
you
have
it
so
working
on
the
development
side.
Primarily,
I
would
hate
to
give
you
misinformation,
but
what
I
can
say
is
that
if
you
go
to
the
housing
authority's
website-
and
there
are
any
number
of
portals
tap-
that
you
can
tap
into
to
find
out
exactly
how
to
access
our
housing,
we
have
both
traditional
public
housing
through
and
applications
that
you
can
address
and
tap
into
those
resources,
as
well
as
going
to
the
individual
developments
that
we
partner
with.
F
In
order
to
to
tap
into
that,
we
have
a
singular
what
we
call
a
waiting
list,
although
folks
don't
like
to
maybe
use
that
word.
But
if
you
go
to
our
website
there's
a
lot
of
information,
so
hcp
website
you'll
be
able
to
find
that
information
out.
I
would
hate
to
give
misinformation
and
so
working
on
the
development
side.
That's
one
of
my
disadvantages,
which
I
will
make
sure
that
provides
information
for
yourself
to
have
for
that.
A
Thank
you,
so
it's
hacp.org
and
I
believe
you
all's
website
is,
for
I
mean
your
phone
number
excuse
me
is.
A
Yes
and
you
need
support
from
the
ura,
it's
ura.org
and
the
webs
and
the
phone
number
is
412-255-6600
and
with
that
we
have
exhausted
all
our
time
for
today's
show,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
our
guests
for
joining
us
specifically.
I
want
to
thank
mr
ron
porter
from
the
help
pittsburgh
initiative.
A
Mr
christopher
corbett
from
pittsburgh
city
planning,
miss
diamante
walker,
the
deputy
executive
director
of
the
urban
development
authority
and
miss
monique,
pierre,
the
chief
development
officer
for
the
housing
authority
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
In
order
to
have
significant
investment
in
the
black
community,
it
is
imperative
that
we
work
with
all
these
organizations
and
agencies
in
order
to
collectively
rebuild
black
communities
in
our
city
by
black
people,
for
black
people,
in
conjunction
with
our
partners
and
our
allies.
B
Again,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
all
of
you
who
are
watching
us
tonight
and
participating
in
this
town
hall
meeting.
Remember
you
can
watch
this
show
on
facebook,
the
city's
youtube
channel
or
the
city's
cable
channel
a
meeting.
A
new
meeting
occurs
every
wednesday
by
working
together,
united
purpose.
We
can
transform
our
city
strengthen
it
for
all
its
residents.
Pittsburgh
can
be
a
city
for
all
when
it
becomes
a
city
where
black
pittsburgh
matters
good
evening,
stay
safe
and
be.