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A
And
we
welcome
you
to
black
pittsburgh
matters.
Black
pittsburgh
matters
is
a
series
of
virtual
town
hall
meetings,
affirming
a
city-wide
agenda.
The
black
pittsburgh
does
indeed
matter
black
pittsburgh
matters
means
that
black
lives
matter.
We
must
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
black
people.
It
means
that
black
communities
matter.
We
must
focus
on
rebuilding
black
communities.
It
means
that
black
wealth
matters.
We
must
focus
on
increasing
black
employment
and
entrepreneurial.
B
We're
now
using
this
media
and
platform
to
come
to
you
in
the
ways
in
which
we
can
to
talk
about
what
we're
doing
and
discuss
policy
and
legislation
concerning
black
pittsburgh.
These
meetings
will
be
available
via
facebook
youtube
and
the
city's
cable
channel.
You
can
contact
or
ask
questions
via
the
black
pittsburgh
matters,
facebook,
page
or
email
us
at
black
p
g
h
matters,
that's
black
pth
matters
at
gmail.com
and
of
course
you
can
comment
through
our
live
feed
right
now.
A
This
past
tuesday
city
council
passed
legislation
establishing
evictions
protections
for
people
facing
hardship
due
to
the
covet
19
pandemic.
Many
of
us
are
facing
multiple
hardships:
a
global,
a
global
pandemic,
a
snowy
winter
and
a
recession
which
together
has
elevated
the
issue
of
housing
and
security.
B
Thus,
we
invited
experts
today
who
work
diligently
on
these
issues
regionally
to
talk
about
what
they
do,
what
more
can
be
done
and
what
resources
are
available
to
our
residents,
as
well
as
answers
questions
on
the
subject,
but
before
we
bring
the
guests
in
dan,
you
and
I
have
both
worked
hard
in
our
districts
of
bringing
more
affordable
housing
online.
I
think,
on
the
front
end,
I
think
people
sometimes
don't
realize
if
you're
working
a
minimum
wage
job
or
even
in
a
hospital
job
that
pays
poorly.
A
Yeah
and
one
of
the
other
challenges
that
I've
recently
sort
of
learned
about
is
the
fact
that
once
people
are
out
of
their
currently
affordable
housing,
even
the
housing
that
they're
struggling
to
afford
once
they
leave
that
house,
it's
very
hard
for
them
to
go,
find
another
place
to
live
that
is
as
affordable
or
less
because
the
cost
of
housing
is
only
going
up.
Thus,
you
end
up
with
so
many
families
and
this
just
horrible
cycle
of
always
chasing
the
next
apartment
or
the
next
place
to
live,
which
obviously
has
mental
health
effects.
B
Yeah
and
unfortunately,
what
we've
seen
in
the
black
community
is
many
of
those
families
wind
up
in
the
suburbs
they
wind
up
in
clarendon
or
mckeesport
or
or
rankin
or
braddock
or
our
communities.
You
know
mon
valley
community,
they
wind
up
actually
in
communities
outside
of
the
city.
So
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
over
the
last
few
years,
the
actual
black
community,
the
percentage
of
black
people
in
the
city
proper,
is,
is
shrinking
because
you
have
an
exodus
of
of
poor
black
people
because
they
can't
find
affordable
housing.
A
B
Our
good
friend,
laura
jorgowski
welcome
her
back
from
the
city's
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
robert
dainwood
staff
attorney
for
regional
housing,
legal
services
and
all-around
great
person
and
scholar
with
the
mayor's
office.
Lindsey
powell
assistant
chief
of
staff
to
mayor
william
peduto,
welcome
all
to
this
evening's
town
hall
meeting.
A
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Maybe
I'll
start
with
mrs
powell
only
because
we
did
mention
at
the
beginning
that
this
past
tuesday,
we
did
pass
a
legislation
with
a
moratorium,
and
you
did
a
lot
of
work
on
that
as
mr
dainwood,
and
so
maybe,
if
you
could
just
walk
us
through
what
that
legislation
does
and
what
it
doesn't
do.
A
C
Be
less
exposure
to
to
coped,
and
so
you
know
the
legislation
that
passed
again
puts
the
burden
of
proof
on
landlords
that
there
are
exemptions
for
an
eviction
ban.
That
would
allow
a
landlord
to
move
forward
with
an
eviction,
and
bob,
of
course,
can
speak
to
some
of
the
thinking
around
there.
But
the
legislation
also
allows
for
a
department
within
the
city
to
be
the
arbiter,
for
you
know
to
determine
if
the
an
eviction
is
is
appropriate
in
that
instance.
C
But
again,
I
think
what
is
the
biggest
takeaway
from
this
legislation
is
that
it
aims
to
ensure
that
tenants
are
able
to
stay
in
their
homes
and
sheltered,
while
any
possible
conversations
around
around
evictions
happen
and
that
landlords
will
be
the
ones
to
have
to
go
to
the
commission
on
human
relations
to
determine
if
an
eviction
is
eligible
or
appropriate.
At
that
point,.
B
D
Well
sure,
well,
thank
you
reverend,
and
I
agree
with
everything
that
that
chief
powell
just
said.
I
I
I
have
to
be
clear.
I
was
not
the
author
of
the
bill.
I
helped
draft
amendments
to
a
bill
that
was
introduced
by
council
a
week
ago,
tuesday,
so
you
know
I
can't
claim
authorship
of
the
entire
bill,
but
I,
but
I
did
help,
write
some
amendments.
D
Of
persons
and
except
for
serious
lease
violations,
like
you,
know,
damage
to
the
property
or
criminal
activity
on
the
premises
as
as
chief
powell
said,
landlords
can
apply
directly
to
the
pittsburgh
commission
on
human
relations
for
an
exemption.
That
process
is
not
yet
in
place,
and
there
are
several
of
us
working
around
the
clock
to
try
to
get
try
to
get
that
in
place.
It's
important
to
keep
in
mind
it's.
It's
directed
the
the
mortar
is
directed
at
landlord
conduct,
so
it's
not
directed
at
the
courts.
D
The
the
city
isn't
telling
the
courts
what
they
have
to
consider.
What
they
can't
consider
you
know
the
city
is,
is
essentially
telling
landlords
within
the
city.
You
know
you
will
be
fined
if
you
evict
tenants
for
a
prohibited
reason
and
so
landlord
conduct.
You
know
what
includes
things
like.
You
know,
giving
a
a
notice
to
quit
filing
an
eviction
action
or
requesting
an
order
for
possession.
D
You
know
for
cases
that
have
already
been
in
the
process
and
obviously
it
would
cover
self-help
evictions
which
are
illegal
already,
and
you
know
so
so.
Landlords
who,
who
engage
in
any
of
that
conduct
without
first
getting
an
exemption
from
the
human
relations
commission,
could
be
subject
to
a
fine
of
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars.
B
B
Imagine
because
if
you
don't
have
a
permanent
address,
even
though
you
may
be
sleeping
on
someone's
couch
right,
you
may
be
in
a
family
member's
couch
for
the
day
I
mean
for
the
week
or
for
a
few
months
you
really
don't
have
a
permanent
address.
So
talk
to
me,
dan
and
and
then
and
marcus
talk
to
me
about
your
work
in
in
in
homeless
and
homeless,
prevention
and
housing
and
security,
and
but
really
tell
us
about
how
big
of
a
problem
is
this
in
pittsburgh.
F
But
there
are
individuals
who
fall
into
a
kind
of
a
gray
area
right,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
probably
know
individuals
who
are
in
these
situations.
There
are
people
who
are
not
street,
homeless
or
chronically
homeless,
or
sometimes
they
call
them
rough
sleepers.
People
who
are
staying
outside
every
single
night
of
the
year,
but
they
do
have
housing
and
stability.
F
So
that
might
look
like,
as
you
alluded
to
someone
sleeping
on
a
couch
of
a
friend
one
night
and
then
sleeping
in
a
doorway,
the
the
next
night
and
maybe
they're
staying
in
their
car,
but
every
once
in
a
while,
a
family
member
will
let
them
in
to
shower
or
to
sleep
on
the
couch
as
well.
So
those
are
individuals
for
whom
there
isn't
really
designated
programming
designed
for
them
to
pull
them
out
of
these
situations.
F
You
know
a
lot
of
it
is
waiting
for
them
to
become
street
homeless
proper
so
that
so
to
speak,
and
so
what
happens
during
that
time?
Is
that
we're
basically
watching
really
precarious
situations
with
individuals
until
they
fall
into
a
state
where
they
then
become
eligible
for
this
federally
funded
programming?
F
And
so
the
goal
of
I
think
you
know
our
program
and
really
all
of
the
the
street
outreach
programs
and
the
homeless
services
in
general
is
to
try
to
figure
out
creative
ways
to
wrap
around
and
support.
Individuals
who
again
may
not
be
homeless
in
the
hud
definition
sense,
but
certainly
are
on
track
to
to
to
be
on
the
street.
And
so
this
is
something
that
a
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
upstream
intervention.
F
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
engage
with
individuals
before
they
hit
the
street
and
before
they
get
into
a
situation
which
we
know
from
our
work
with
people
who
are
experiencing
street
homelessness,
it's
an
opportunity
to
prevent
a
situation
that
is
very
difficult
to
remediate
once
you're
on
the
street.
You
are
extremely
vulnerable
substance,
use
mental
health
issues,
pre-existing
health
conditions,
they're
all
exacerbated
by
living
outside
as
you
as
you
well
know.
G
A
G
D
You
know
in
in
pennsylvania,
if
you're
not
living
in
subsidized
housing,
tenants
have
very
little
rights.
Sorry
to
say
that
it's
it's
a
tenancy
at
will
state.
You
know
the
while
a
lease
is
in
effect,
tenants
can
only
be
evicted
for
violations
of
the
lease
right
when
a
lease
is
up
and
if,
if
you're
on
a
month-to-month
lease,
you
can
be
evicted
for
any
reason
or
no
reason
at
all.
You
know
just
just
no
illegal
reason.
No
like,
for
instance,
no
discriminatory
reason.
You
know
so.
D
D
If,
if
they
appeal
you
know
they
have
to
pay
money
into
the
court,
something
called
a
supersedious
bond
to
stay.
The
eviction
stop
the
eviction
pending
appeal,
and
you
know
at
this
time
in
particular,
there's
a
lot
of
tenants
who
are
struggling
to
pay
their
rent,
and
that
means
paying
the
supersedious
bond
is
a
struggle
and-
and
so
you
know
the
ability
to
appeal
and
stop
an
eviction
on
appeal
during
you
know
during
covet.
D
During
the
you
know,
these
economic
times
in
particular,
you
know
is,
is
stressed,
it's
tenants
are,
are,
are
struggling
more
now,
I
mean
you
know
and
councilman
level
you.
You
know
this
very
well,
because
you
were
you,
helped
get
the
city's
housing
needs,
assessment
and
housing
task
force,
affordable,
housing
task
force,
established.
D
There
were
already
you
know:
23
000,
tenant
households
in
pittsburgh
as
a
few
years
ago
paid
more
than
half
of
their
income
towards
rent.
You
know,
and
that's
that's
just
unsustainable
and
it's
worse
now,
I'm
sure
it's
worse
now
during
coving,
I
haven't
seen
any
figures
on
it.
It
has
to
be
worse
than
that,
and
so
I
I
you
know,
inability
to
pay.
You
know
it
affects
housing
insecurity,
but
it
also
affects
tenants
ability.
You
know
the
ability
of
tenants
to
remain
housed
through
the
eviction
process.
D
A
G
B
When
we
talk
about
homelessness,
when
we
talk
about
actually
housing
and
security,
we
know
that
african
americans
are
disproportionately
subject
to
the
lack
of
housing
in
our
city.
We
know
that
and
the
other
thing
I
think
we
know
and
one
of
the
things
I
think
councilman
lovell
and
I
have
advocated
together
collectively
in
our
work
as
part
of
black
pittsburgh
matters.
Is
we
now
need
to
have
a
more
comprehensive
approach
to
how
we
deal
with
the
issues
that
are
facing
black
pittsburgh?
We
know
that
we
need
more
affordable
housing,
but
that's
not
enough.
B
We
need
better
schools
and
then
that's
not
enough.
We
need
more
black
entrepreneurs
and
employment
and
then
that's
not
enough.
We
need
a
better
police
force
and
then
that's
not
enough.
We
need
more
social
services
and,
more
you
know,
drug
rehabilitation
and
more
programs
for
ex-offenders
and
so
laura.
I
want
to
bring
you
in
to
talk
about
that.
B
One
of
the
reasons
I
think
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
is
so
important
it
now
we
have
a
place
to
put
that
wrap
around
services
concept
and
I
think
that's
your
work
is
to
is
to
liaison
all
these
interventions
and
I'm
I'm
the
way.
I
say
it
is
everybody's
right.
Everybody
who
says
what
you
need
for
black
communities
is
right.
What
they're
wrong
about
is
that
one
intervention
won't
do
it.
You
need
all
of
them
at
the
same
time
and
at
scale
you
can't
build
five
houses
or
ten
houses.
B
You
have
to
build
50
to
100
houses
with
all
the
programmings,
all
wrapped
around.
So
laura
talk,
talk
about
this
whole
idea
from
homeless
and
and
fear
in
open
disclosure.
We
had
a
couple
camping
out
at
the
church
sitting
sleepy
outside
in
the
church's
vestibule,
and
laura
was
helpful
to
get
them
to
relocate
them.
So
she's
really
good
at
what
she
does
laura
talk
about
the
need
for
this
sort
of
wrap-around
services
concept
for
people
who
are
at
risk
and
that
need
in
pitch
price
black
communities.
H
Robert
burgess
thank
you,
and
we
actually
have
one
of
our
partners
who
directly
supported
that
family.
You
mentioned
that
was
dan
and
one
of
his
colleagues
who's
working
in
homewood,
maybe
working
right
now.
Actually,
I
know
he's
he's
always
at
it.
I
think
there
was.
You
know,
there's
something
that
that
you
said
about
the
disproportionate
impact
on
on
black
community
members,
and
I
was
looking
at
an
article.
H
So
black
individuals
in
this
particular
study
made
up
19.9
percent
of
all
adult
renters
in
the
counties
for
which
they
had
data,
but
32.7
of
all
eviction
filings,
one
in
every
five
adult
rentals
renters
in
the
sample
was
black.
Yet
one
in
every
three
eviction
filings
were
served
to
a
black
renter.
By
contrast,
white
people
made
up
over
half
the
population
of
adult
renters,
but
received
only
42
percent
of
the
eviction
filings.
Now
I'm
not
I'm,
you
know,
I
bob.
H
You
may
be
able
to
say
how
this
is
playing
out
across
allegheny,
county
and
across
the
city.
I'm
gonna,
guess
it's
not
it's
not
tremendously
different
and
it's
it's.
It
goes
back
to
this
disparity
that
we
see
over
and
over
again
you
know
you
were
asking
earlier
about
the
work
that
dan
and
marcus
and
their
colleagues
are
doing,
and
many
other
people
are
working
very
hard.
H
What
does
it
look
like
to
say
the
police
aren't
the
appropriate
people
to
be
here,
but
we
don't
have
that
social
service
infrastructure,
so
some
of
that
is
stuff
that
the
city
can
take
on
right.
That's
our
partnership
with
allegheny
health
network.
That's
our
partnership
around
diversion,
some
of
it
we're
going
to
need
to
push
back
and
it's
what
we're
kind
of
trying
to
describe
as
a
continuum
of
services.
So
you
know
dan
and
marcus
were
speaking
about
upstream
right.
H
How
do
we
get
to
a
place
where
we're
not
even
letting
people
get
to
that
crisis?
Point
letting
people
get
to
that
harm
point
I
mean
you
know.
Marcus
and
dan
would
be
better
equipped
to
talk
about
this
than
I
would,
but
probably
one
of
the
most
devastating
things
a
person
could
see.
Is
a
person
literally
being
told
you
can't
go
back
into
your
apartment.
You
have
no
place
to
put
your
stuff
you're
now
homeless,
with
a
child,
which
means
your
child's
probably
going
to
cyf.
H
H
People
who
live
in
communities
are
the
very
best
people
to
understand
and
be
aware
of.
What's
going
on,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
social
service
provider.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
a
law
enforcement
professional.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
a
legal
professional.
It's
your
neighbor
who
knows
something's
up.
How
do
we
empower
community
members
and
then,
if
we
do
get
to
that
point,
you
know
as
as
marcus
and
bob
were
saying
if
we
do
get
to
that
point
of
eviction,
how
do
how
do
people
like
dan's
team,
show
up
and
say?
H
Probably
the
country
as
we
look
at
these
significant
disparities,
so
the
function
of
the
office
is
going
to
be
doing
really
rapid
assessment
of
where
our
most
critical
points
of
intervention
are.
So
our
ahn
partners
are
are
one
of
the
very
first
they
went
out
and
you
know
if
it's,
if
it
makes
sense,
can
tell
you
about
how
they
found
a
very
large
number
of
people
who
had
never
been
service
connected
that
were
living
in
your
district,
reverend
burgess,
and
it
was
because
we
didn't
have
the
supports
and
the
infrastructure
in
there.
H
Despite
all
of
the
advocacy
you
do,
despite
all
of
the
work
our
neighbors
do
there
just
hadn't
been
those
investments
and
and
other
you
know.
Other
partnerships
look
like:
let's
not
wait.
Till
people
are
homeless.
Let's
not
wait
till
they're
precarious,
it's
it's
it's
the
investments
in
main
street,
it's
the
investments,
as
you
said,
in
affordable
housing,
and
I
love
that
statement,
which
is
if
someone
says
we
need
something
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
our
communities
and
especially
our
black
communities.
H
The
answer
is
always,
yes,
we
need
all
of
it
like.
We
should
just
be
investing
as
much
as
possible
in
in
thriving
communities,
and
we
also
want
to
see
stabilization
so
when
something
doesn't
go
well,
when
our
communities
are
in
crisis,
how
do
we
prevent
that?
Recurrent
trauma:
how
do
we
make
it
so
that
that
person
never
ever
has
to
go
through
that
experience
again,
because
it's
something
we
wouldn't
want
for
anybody
in
the
first
place,
so.
B
I
it's
interesting,
you
know
when
I
have
this
conversation
with
people,
and
I
say
the
statement
you've
heard
me
say
on
council
that
there
are
no
poor
white
communities
in
pittsburgh.
There
are
poor
white
people,
but
there
are
no
poor
white
communities.
All
the
poor
communities
are
black
and
then
they
say
well,
no,
that's
not
true
and
they'll,
almost
inevitably
they'll
say
well.
How
about
karen?
I'm
like?
No
carrots,
a
middle
class
neighborhood!
B
You
can't
compare
carrick,
you
know
whose
income
is
probably
in
the
30
000
right
to
some
place
like
homewood,
whether
you
know
it's
at
the
18
000
household
income
rate,
damn
and
and
marcus.
I
guess
I
need
you
to
help,
explain
to
us
how
bad
we
can
use
homewood
or
they
know
you're
doing
work
at
home
with
right
now.
So
just
use
that
example,
you
can
use
other
parts
of
the
city.
How
bad
is
this
issue
in
a
place
like
homewood?
B
F
F
One
of
the
things
that
we
do
every
year
is
a
hud-mandated
count
of
individuals
who
are
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness
and
it's
broken
down
by
communities.
So
you
know
typically,
and
it's
not
all
the
communities
that
are
in
allegheny
county
that
are
counted,
but
it's
it's
really
contingent
on
the
capacity
of
providers
and
volunteers
to
go
out
and
actually
enumerate
individuals
on
a
single
night,
typically
at
the
end
of
january,
just
to
get
a
snapshot
of
what
homelessness
might
look
like
across
the
country,
and
so
we
do
that
in
allegheny
county.
F
As
a
continuum
and
last
year
we
made
a
concerted
effort
to
really
sort
of
make
a
deep
engagement
with
individuals
that
are
in
homewood,
I
think
years.
Prior
there
were
maybe
one
or
two
people
who
were
counted
as
a
part
of
the
the
point
in
time,
and
you
know
that
I
think
is
owing
to
the
fact
that
homelessness
looks
very
different
in
homewood
than
say
it
does
in
the
south
side
right,
you
know.
F
In
the
south
side
you
have
open
encampments,
people
are
staying
outside,
it's
very
public
in
homewood
you,
you
know
you
look
at
all
of
the
housing
stock.
That's
out
there,
people
are
staying
in
abandoned
buildings,
people
are
staying
in
situations
where
they're
housing,
insecure
they're,
precariously
housed
they're
sleeping
in
cars,
you're
not
going
to
find
a
an
encampment
with
tents
in
homewood,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
people
aren't
experiencing
homelessness
there.
F
So
what
we
did
was
we
just
went
out
and
we
worked
with
community
members
to
basically
try
to
identify
individuals
who
may
maybe
at
first
glance,
would
say:
oh
no,
I'm
not
homeless
and
we'd,
say,
okay
and
and
rather
than
just
taking
that
at
face
value.
We'd
ask
what
does
your
housing
situation
look
like
or
what
does.
F
F
That's
not
meant
for
human
habitation
right,
and
this
is
a
place
that
certainly
does
qualify
an
individual
for
a
lot
of
those
resources
that
maybe
initially
they
wouldn't
have
even
known
about-
and
we
do
know
that
many
of
the
individuals
in
homewood
don't
know
about
the
resources
and
services
that
they
are
eligible
for.
Most
of
the
conversations
we've
had
with
people
out,
there
have
been
not
talking
about
whether
or
not
they're
eligible,
but
merely
educating
them
about
the
array
of
services
that
are
available
to
individuals
who
are
in
these
situations.
F
They
just
aren't
aware
of
them
and
there
hasn't
really
been
a
lot
of
focused
engagement
with
with
folks
out
there
to
help
them
understand
what
what
is
available
to
them.
I
mean
the
statistics.
You
know
we
identified
nearly
50
people
in
homewood
last
year
and
the
prior
year's
count
for
the
entire
county,
which
is
you
know,
1.2
million
people
for
unsheltered
homelessness
was
48.
so
already,
just
in
homewood
alone,
that
number
eclipses.
F
What
had
previously
been
counted
for
the
entire
county-
and
we
are-
you
know
very
pragmatic
about
that,
and
we
know
that
that
is
certainly
not
a
complete
count
by
any
means.
Those
are
just
the
individuals
we
happen
to
encounter
on
a
single
day
at
homewood.
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
it
and
you
look
at
the
statistics,
and
this
is
for
the
county.
F
But
you
know:
13
of
the
population
of
allegheny
county
is
black,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
unsheltered
population,
it's
58
of
the
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
and
when
you
look
in
the
shelter
system,
it's
you
know.
It's
56
of
individuals
who
are
in
shelter
are
black,
so
there's
a
real.
You
know
a
disproportionate
breakdown
and
representation
of
who
are
black,
that
are
in
the
the
homeless
system
and
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
F
Yeah,
absolutely
the
so
the
resources
are
are
really
myriad,
although
they're
limited
again
back
to
that
hud
definition,
that's
a
real
sort
of
a
gatekeeper
of
a
or
a
barrier
for
individuals
who
are
in
that
precarious
space,
and
so
you
know,
intermittent
homelessness
is
a
term.
You
know
people
for
whom
there
are
not
long.
Extended
periods
of
homelessness
means
that
their
eligibility
for
housing
programs
that
are
federally
subsidized
is
is
just
not
going
to
be
what
it
would
be
for
an
individual
who's
always
on
the
street.
F
But
when
you
look
at
the
social
determinants
of
health,
you
know
when
you
look
at
these
upstream
factors
that
will
ultimately
contribute
to
homelessness.
We
can
still
meet
people
where
they
are,
while
they're
in
some
form
of
precarious
housing
and
make
sure
that
they
have.
You
know
food
security
right.
We
can
make
sure
that
they
understand
the
options
in
terms
of
rental
assistance,
assistance.
F
F
The
really
important
thing
here
is
having
a
relationship
with
a
healthcare
provider
is
paramount.
You
know,
for
myriad
reasons,
you
know
perfect
example
would
be
when
you
look
at
some
of
these
vaccination
efforts
that
are
being
stood
up
in
some
of
these
communities.
You'll
look
at
you
know
some
of
the
barriers
that
I
don't
think
people
recognize
really
are
barriers.
You
know
we
see
65
and
older,
and
you
know
that
is
something
that
renders
you
eligible
for
a
vaccine.
F
But
you
know
you
also
look
at
you
know
some
of
the
comorbidities
that
would
render
you
eligible
for
a
vaccine
and
then
there's
a
little
caveat,
which
is
that
you
need
to
have
that
comorbidity
whatever
it
is
a
qualifying
health
condition
document
and
at
first
glance
you
know
that
makes
perfect
sense.
But
when
you
look
at
these
communities-
and
you
recognize
that
an
overwhelming
number
of
individuals
in
them
do
not
have
meaningful
relationships
with
healthcare
providers,
you
start
to
ask
yourself:
where
will
they
get
this
documentation?
F
You
know
how
will
they
actually
produce
the
documentation
to
get
the
vaccine,
and
so
it's
it's
little
things
like
that
in
these.
These
inequities
that
sort
of
perpetuate
you
know
the
the
disparities
in
health
care,
and
so
what
we
really
want
to
focus
on
is
building
primary
health
care
relationships,
and
that
looks
like
linking
people
to
community
resources.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
fqhcs
that
are
excellent
in
allegheny
county
and
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
in
homewood
in
particular.
F
Just
because
we're
talking
about
it,
you
know
we
have
ulna
hillary,
which
is
a
tremendous
community
resource.
We
also
have
the
east
liberty
family
health
center,
which
is
a
tremendous
resource.
We
want
to
try
to
create
durable
and
substantive
relationships
with
primary
health
care
providers
so
that
people
have
equitable
care
and
that
they
have
more
than
just
a
you
know,
an
ed
visit
or
you
know,
go
to
a
med
express
or
something
like
that,
but
a
true
relationship
within
which
conversations
about
health.
You
know
health
education
can
actually
take
place.
G
I
think
to
add
on
to
that,
in
addition
to
like
a
true
relationship,
making
sure
that
it's
a
true
positive
and
trustful
relationship,
I'm
being
the
face
that
someone
and
can
come
to
and
say,
I
need
x,
y
and
z,
medical
assistance
or
medical
help,
and
I
trust
you
to
provide
me
with
that.
And
I
trust
you
not
to
leave
me
astray,
and
I
think
that
is
some
of
the
primary
work
and
some
of
that
bridge.
G
B
B
I
do
understand
that
we
really
do
need
more
housing
for
those
people
who
are
at
the
lowest
end
of
the
spectrum.
But
at
the
same
time-
and
I
disagree
with
those
who
say-
we
just
need
to
build
affordable
housing
alone
without
mixing
it,
because
I
find
that
the
outcomes
of
those
families
are
lower
than
the
families
that
are
in
mixed
income
communities.
And
so
I
I'm
curious.
We've
not
talked
about
this,
I'm
putting
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
kind
of
think
that
you
got
to
do
both.
I
think
you
have
to.
B
We
do
have
to
build
more
affordable
housing,
but
I
think
you
don't
want
to
build
content.
You
don't
want
to
rebuild
slums
and
ghettos
right.
You
don't
want
to
concentrate
poor
people
in
certain
neighborhoods.
You
know,
but
really
what
you
want
to
do
is
you
want
to
spread
them
out
into
a
affluent
neighborhoods
too,
but
then,
when
you
rebuild
them
in
poor
communities,
you
can
also
bring
in
market
rate
and
working
class
housing
so
that
it's
not
just
concentrated
poverty.
At
least
that's
what
we've
learned.
That's
the
best
outcome
for
kids.
D
Well,
I
look,
I
I
agree
with
you.
Communities
should
serve
everybody,
and
you
know
you
need
you.
You
need
well-balanced
communities.
I
I
guess
my
frustration
has
been
that
pittsburgh
has
been
very
good
at
deconcentrating
poverty
right
at
tearing
down
low
income
housing
and
replacing
it
with
mixed
income
housing.
We
haven't
been
so
good
at
deconcentrating
wealth
right.
We
haven't.
D
We
don't
see
that
much
effort
on
the
other
side
of
the
coin,
right
on
ensuring
that
when
luxury
housing
gets
built,
when
market
rate
housing
gets
built,
that
it
is
built
for
everybody
right
that
that
you
know
there
is
a
place
in
in
all
housing
development
for
for
all
pittsburghers,
and
you
know
so.
My
hope
is
that
we
would
get
better
at
doing
that.
D
And
do
you
mind
if
I
say
something
really?
You
know
there
was
there
was
some
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
tonight
about
the
disparities
in
evictions,
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
create
lab,
has
done
some
incredible
mapping.
They
have
mapped
out
where
evictions
occur
over
a
five-year
period
and
if
you
lay
that
map
over
like
a
racial
demographic.
Now,
where
do
black
folks
live?
You
know
it's.
G
If
I
might,
if
I
may
add,
I
think
also
when
you're
looking
at
evictions
and
that
disparity
it
also,
we
were
talking
earlier
about
the
cycle
of
housing,
insecurity
right,
and
I
think
that
is
something
that
leads
directly
into
that
cycle,
because
there
is
an
an
occurrence
for,
if
you're,
evicted
once
and
applying
for
a
new
home.
That
eviction
is
going
to
go
against
you.
G
A
So
this
question
it
can
be
answered
by
anyone.
One
of
the
concerns
I've
had
as
we
as
we're
talking
about
evictions,
is
we're
absolutely
doing
the
right
thing
by
protecting
everyone
during
this
pan
divot.
However,
at
some
point
the
city
is
going
to
open
back
up.
At
some
point,
we
will
lift
our
emergency
declaration
and,
at
some
point,
everyone
who
has
not
been
evicted.
Many
landlords
are
going
to
be
running
to
the
courts
to
a
victim
for
whatever,
for
whatever
reason,
that
is,
how
do
we
prepare
for
the
inevitable?
A
G
The
the
wrong
that
they
feel
have
gone
has
gone
against
them,
so,
hopefully,
again,
like
I
said,
we're
p,
to
get
rid
of
that
adversary
relationship
and
then
also
repair
the
relationship
between
landlords
and
tenants
and
open
more
challenge
of
communications.
I
know
in
speaking
with
some
of
the
magistrates
about
this
issue
it
it
was
said
that
a
lot
of
things
could
have
and
should
have
been
taken
care
of
before
it
got
to
them,
and
it's
a
shame
that
they
have
to
now
deal
with
this
and
then
add
the
eviction
onto
that
person's
record.
G
D
D
They're
projecting
a
march
15th
rollout
date
when
their
their
application
will
be
live
that
that
80
million
includes
8.9
million
from
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
The
council,
you
know,
entered
the
cooperation
agreement
with
with
the
county
to
you
know
to
share
those
resources,
so
I
mean
that
is
I
don't
think
that
that's
just
astronomical.
I
mean
that
is
a
lot
of
money
for
rental
assistance.
B
Well,
I
must
bob.
I
said
this
because
I
have
to
repeat
this.
I
do
find
this
a
little
ironic
right
that
landlords,
who
won't
take
vouchers
who
discriminate
by
source
of
income.
They
won't
take
vouchers
which
really
is
a
way
of
discrimination
because
they
don't
want
necessarily
african
americans
in
their
rent
in
their
in
their
developments.
B
They
won't
take
government
money
in
terms
of
subsidies
in
terms
of
vouchers,
but
they're
going
to
run
to
take
this
renter
assistance
money
on
the
back
end,
so
they
won't
take
it
on
the
front
end,
but
they'll
take
the
same
dollars
on
the
back
end.
I
just
I
I
I
have
to
I
have
to
say
that,
but
lindsay-
and
I
really
want
to
bring
the
two
of
you-
you
you
in
lindsey
and
laura.
I
talk
about
the
administration's
kind
of
push
to
really
deal
with
a
wraparound
support
services
to
black
people.
B
Let's
be
honest
tonight-
and
I've
said
this
before,
if
you're,
if
you're
poor
in
pittsburgh,
that's
bad,
but
if
you're
blocking
pitch
black
and
poor
in
pittsburgh.
That's
worse!
If
you're,
you
know
a
gay
lesbian,
trans
and
pittsburgh,
you
may
have
discrimination
and
problems,
but
if
you're,
a
black
gay,
a
lesbian
and
trans
and
pittsburgh
is
worse
right.
B
Whatever
the
issue
is,
when
you
label
black,
on
top
of
it,
if
you're
a
single
mother
and
a
woman
in
pittsburgh,
that's
bad,
but
if
you're,
a
single
mother
and
black
in
pittsburgh,
it's
worse,
it
almost
really
and
bob.
You
said
this,
and
I
mean
I
councilman
leville,
and
I
were
talking
about
that.
I
believe
that
that's
part
of
the
problem
with
our
education
of
our
children
in
the
school
dis
system,
is
that
many
of
these
children
come
from
single-parent
households
and
that
sometimes
people
ignore
african-american
women
and
their
issues.
B
And
so
when
we
talk
about
black
pittsburgh
matters,
we
really
are
talking
about
the
gender
study.
You
know,
I
guess
I'm
talking
too
much,
but
the
gender
study
talks
about
how
this
is
one
of
the
worst
places
for
black
women
in
the
country,
and
I
want
the
two
of
you
in
terms
of
your
work
laura
and
lindsay
to
talk
about
your
work
of
trying
to
empower
black
families,
but
in
particular
how
to
help
black
single
mothers
to
be
successful
in
our
city.
C
Absolutely
I
want
to
say
first,
I
think
that,
what's
critically
important
about
the
thinking
that
the
city,
the
ura
and
some
of
the
other
governmental
agencies,
some
of
the
thinking
that
they're
doing
is
shifting
from
thinking
about
you
know
poor
neighborhoods,
to
rich
neighborhoods.
But
how
do
you
think
about
opportunity-rich
neighborhoods?
Some
of
the
previous
conversations
that
we
had
on
the
show
about
you
know
how
do
you
build
affordable
housing
in
poor
neighborhoods
and
what
have
you?
C
C
You
know
you
could
call
it
kind
of
baby
basic
income
where
you're
giving
people
a
stimulus,
check,
that's
unrestricted,
so
that
people
know
so
people
are
allowed
to
purchase
and
to
acquire
what
they
need.
In
that
moment,
our
governmental
programs
are
incredibly
prescriptive.
You
know,
if
you're
talking
about
wic
right,
you
can
buy
kicks,
but
you
can't
buy
honeycombs.
C
C
You
know
a
lot
of
the
pushback
they
got
was
if
you
give
people,
you
know
money,
they're,
just
gonna
buy
booze
and
cigarettes,
and
how
can
we
trust
people
to
know
what
they
need
when
we're
not
telling
them
we're
putting
restrictions
on
those
dollars
on
these
dollars
consistently,
you
saw
that
people
were
buying
new
shoes
for
their
kids,
we're
buying
a
washer
dryer
so
that
they
wouldn't
have
to
spend.
You
know
triple
the
money
at
the
at
the
laundromat
down
the
street.
They
were
buying
new
school
uniforms
for
their
kids.
C
These
are
the
types
of
things
that
we
know
that
our
government
programs
can't
provide
for
people
and,
if
we're
talking
about
building
a
city
and
investing
building
a
city
that
invests
in
all
people,
you
have
to
start
with
black
women
period.
You
have
to
start
with
the
women
and
the
people
who
have
been
affected
the
most
and
so
through
the
guaranteed
basic
income
program
and,
along
with
some
others,
I'm
sure
laura
can
talk
about
and
trying
to
specifically
call
out
wrongs
and
make
sure
that
again,
those
who
are
most
vulnerable.
H
I
think
you
know:
that's
it
right,
it's
it's.
How
do
we
just
promote
the
agency
of
the
people
who
know
what
they
need?
I
think
there's
a
massive,
so
there's
a
there's,
a
something
that
I've
observed
and
I'll
try
to
articulate
it.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
bemoaning
how
difficult
it
is
to
get
the
vaccine,
and
it
is
right,
I
mean
there's
different
websites
and
you
have
to
like
people
are
driving
all
over
the
place
and
people
who
who
don't
use
the
internet
are
like.
H
H
This
is
every
day
we
look
at
transportation
if
a
person
is
is
having
to
take
multiple
buses
and
they
have
children
that
they
need
to
get
to
school.
It's
cutting
out
all
of
this
time
in
their
day
where
they
could
do
any
number
of
things,
including
self-care
right
like
maintain
overall
health
and
well-being,
and
then
we
see
you
know
pay
in
jobs
that
is
so
low.
It
precludes
people.
It
goes
back
to
the
social
determinants
of
health.
That
dan
was
saying
it
precludes
people
from
sustaining
their
housing.
H
It
precludes
people
from
having
food
food
security.
So
I
think
that's
you
know.
That's
a
major
piece
right
is
that
I
don't
know
that
anybody
can
appreciate,
including
myself,
how
deeply
difficult
it
is
to
navigate
all
of
these
systems
which
were
not
built
to
be
navigable.
So
just
go,
get
your
check
just
go.
Get
this
thing.
It's
not
that
easy.
H
We
need
a
way
that
we
make
good
or
you
know,
make
better
on
all
of
the
harm
we've
done
communities
or
we
will
just
continue
to
see
single
moms
who
are
going
through
indignities
to
make
it
and
partners
who
are
sitting
in
jail
for
things
that
we
have
made
legal
in
some
communities
and
not
in
others.
So
you
know,
I
know
lindsay,
gave
a
really
excellent
example
of
something
that
is
very
evidence-based
and
effective.
You
know
this
is
something
that
seemed
really
progressive.
H
The
the
diversion
seemed
progressive
a
year
ago
and
we've
been
working
on
trying
to
implement
pre-arrest
aversion
from
some
time
for
some
time
now.
We're
looking
at
it
and
saying
is
this
enough,
because
basically
there
are
crimes
of
poverty.
If
someone
is
sleeping
outside
because
they
literally
don't
have
anywhere
to
sleep,
and
they
happen
to
sleep
on
on
private
property-
that's
defiant
criminal,
trespassing,
it's
charged.
If
you've
had
three
retail
thefts
in
this
county,
it's
a
felony
you're
going
to
the
jail.
H
That
could
mean
you
stole
diapers,
you
stole
formula
and
you
stole
food
in
three
separate
instances
and
that
person's
going
to
jail.
So
we
intend
to
do-
and
this
is
a
partnership
with
with
our
partners,
foundation
of
hope
in
in
the
north
side,
our
partners
at
connect
in
the
county,
the
health
department,
the
the
bureau
of
police
is
to
say
no
more
and
not
just
well
we're
going
to
charge
you,
but
then
you're
going
to
have
to
jump
through
a
bunch
of
hoops
we're
going
to
say.
H
No,
what
we're
doing
is
criminalizing
poverty,
we're
criminalizing
the
behaviors
that
people
engage
in
to
survive
and
that
doesn't
make
sense,
because
we've
essentially
put
you
in
the
situation
where
you're
poor
and
then
we've
told
you
your
efforts
to
survive
are
criminal.
So,
instead
we're
gonna
say:
look
we
think,
rather
than
putting
you
in
a
cell,
we
need
to
empower
you
to
to
tell
us
what
it
is
that
we
can
support
you
and
help
you
with,
and
we've
had
phenomenal
leadership
from
partners
in
police
to
say
we
agree.
We
know
that
cycling.
H
People
through
the
criminal
justice
system
has
no
impact.
If
well
it
does.
But
it's
not
a
good
one.
It's
a
very
negative
one.
People
are
being
their
their
substance.
Use
treatment
is
interrupted
when
they
go
to
the
jail.
So
you
have
someone
who
may
have
been
really
stable
on
on
suboxone
or
methadone
in
recovery.
H
They're,
not
better
off
right
things
aren't
better
and
maybe
they
stole
some
bread
and
now
they're
they're
susceptible
to
a
fatal
overdose.
So
diversion
is
a
critical
program,
but
it's
really
a
culture
shift.
It's
saying
that
the
the
engagement
of
law
enforcement
in
these
spaces
is
just
totally
wrong.
These
are
people
who
are
working
to
figuring
out
how
to
survive,
and
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
support
people
and
doing
more
than
surviving.
B
The
majority
of
them
only
stay
at
the
jail,
a
very
short
period
of
time.
They
go
through
the
intake
process
and
are
released.
Maybe
75
of
them
are
in
the
jail
anywhere
from
12
to
48
hours
and
they're,
never
intake
to
the
population.
So
if
you
actually
go
through
where
african
americans
who
are
arrested,
the
majority
of
them
go
through
intake
and
are
placed
anywhere
from
you
know
a
week
to
you
know
two
years
in
the
county
jail.
B
And
so,
if
you
go
through
the
county,
jail's
population,
it's
not
going
to
be
50
block.
It's
going
to
be
closer
to
75
percent
african-american
in
the
general
population,
and
so
it
says
we
are.
Unfortunately,
we
used
to
joke
and
say
that
the
county
jail
was
the
largest
investment
in
the
county
for
african
americans,
because
it
was
built
primarily
to
warehouse
african
americans
in
our
county,
and
we
need
to
do
something
completely
utterly
different.
B
A
C
I'm
happy
to
start
so,
as
alluded
to
earlier
the
city
and
the
council
both
received
dollars
from
the
federal
government
for
rental
leak
programs.
I
will
say,
with
the
first
kind
of
batch
of
money,
we
got
it,
I
think,
for
for
folks
trying
to
seek
help.
It
was
kind
of
confusing
where,
if
you
went
through
the
city,
there
was
one
process.
The
council
had
another
for
folks
who
weren't
exactly
sure
where
to
go
there'd,
be
some
bouncing
back
and
forth
no
guarantee
of
a
warm
handoff.
C
So
if
you'd
started
at
the
city
and
you
weren't
eligible
because
you
lived
outside
the
city,
it
was
a
little
harder
to
pass
you
along
to
county
counterparts.
With
this
iteration
we've
been
working
together
and
council.
You
know
so
wonderfully
has
signed
on
to
an
mou
to
allow
for
us
to
partner,
and
this
way
it'll
be
more
of
a
seamless
and
more
coordinated
effort
to
make
sure
that
people
get
rental
relief.
C
We've
invested
in
working
with
community
neighborhoods
and
excuse
me
community
community
partners
in
our
neighborhoods
to
ensure
that
you
know
if
you
are
more
comfortable
with
your
cdc
or
your
local
organization,
that
you're
able
to
go
there
rather
than
go
through
some
of
the
more
formal.
You
know,
entry
points
that
we
have
these
resource
navigators
for
the
city
are
located
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
C
We've
made
a
very,
very
conscientious
decision
to
ensure
that
there's
diversity
in
the
neighborhoods
that
the
organizations
serve
that
we
are
thinking
about
possible
barriers,
whether
that
be
language,
whether
that
be
access
to
transportation.
We
have
drop
insights,
so
if
you
feel
more
comfortable
physically,
you
know
coming
in
physically
to
talk
to
somebody.
You
can
do
that.
C
We
also
will
have
online
call-ins
to
be
a
phone
call,
but
the
easiest
way
to
get
through
to
any
of
these
organizations
is
2-1-1.
This
one
has
been
a
wonderful
clearinghouse
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you're
routed
to
the
proper
channels,
whether
that's
you
know
a
city
affiliate,
a
county
affiliate,
but
working
with
action.
Housing
who's
been
fantastic
and
getting
all
of
these
neighborhood
resources
on
board.
C
They've
been
really
really
diligent
in
making
sure
that
this
time,
when
we
we're
hoping
to
get
money
from
the
feds
any
day
now
you
know
we're
hoping
for
the
15th,
if
not
sooner,
but
we're
hoping
with
this
iteration
that
people
will
be
able
to
access
this
money
much
easier.
So
that's
there's
a
lot
a
little
background
for
folks
so
that
they
know
the
week
is
coming
and
hopefully
coming
quickly.
D
D
So
the
rental
assistance
program
that's
going
to
come
online
very
soon
in
the
next.
You
know
a
couple
weeks.
You
know
essentially
there's
an
income
eligibility
requirement,
80
area,
median
income.
You
know
which
was
fairly
high.
That's
like
probably
double
the
median
income
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
D
D
C
And
I
just
didn't
want
to
add
another
little
bit:
it's
for
landlords
and
and
tenants,
and
so
you
know
something
that
has
come
up
consistently
in
our
you
know:
public
commentary
as
a
councilman.
Now
landlords
are
not
sure
either
where
they
can
get
relief
and
they've
had
a
tenant
who
you
know
hasn't
been
able
to
pay
they've
been
in
the
unit
and.
C
A
We
sh,
we
should
also
just
mention,
because
many
of
us
have
played
a
role
in
its
creation,
the
housing
opportunity
fund
even
putting
the
pandemic
aside.
It's
there
to
also
provide
assistance
for
those
people
looking
to
potentially
stabilize
their
home
fix
up
their
homes
so
that
they
don't
become
home
and
secure
if
they
have
a
housing
opportunity
fund
had
a
program
where,
if
you
have
lost
your
job
and
you
think
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
pay
your
mortgage,
your
rent
for
a
while
that
they
can
assist
you.
A
And
so
again
you
can
go
to
the
ura's
website
or
just
google
housing
opportunity,
fund
pittsburgh
and
the
information
will
pop
up
quickly
before
we,
because
we
are
of
the
hour,
be
if
there's
anyone
who
is
watching
or
may
view
this,
who
knows
someone
who's,
homeless
and
may
need
support
and
or
housing,
insecure
dan
or
marcus.
Can
you
please
provide
information
on
how
they
can
get
in
contact
with
your
program?.
F
Yeah,
absolutely
you
know
so.
The
the
program
that
we
are
standing
up
currently
is
part
of
the
homeless.
Is
an
urban
poverty
program
at
center
for
inclusion,
health
at
ahn,
we're
working
in
zones,
police
zones,
one
two
and
five,
so
the
north
side
downtown
uptown
hill
district,
east
liberty,
homewood
highland
park.
F
If
you
reach
out,
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
put
something
in
the
chat,
but
we
have
a
point
person
who
will
be
able
to
direct
you
to
the
appropriate
services
and
get
you
to
the
right
team.
So,
let's
see
I
can
just
give
you
the
the
email
address
and
the
phone
number
of
our
our
point
person.
This
is
nicole
she's,
our
health
systems
liaison
that
marcus
was
alluding
to
earlier.
F
A
Thank
you
and
we'll
be
sure
to
provide
that
information
on
our
page
on
our
page
as
well,
so
people
will
have
it
with
that
being
said,
we
have
run
out
of
the
time
that
we
have
for
today's
show,
and
we
certainly
want
to
thank
all
our
guests,
starting
with
dan
palka
and
marcus
gaines
cherry,
the
administrative
director
and
criminal
justice
liaison
for
the
allegheny
health
network
program
for
homeless
and
urban
poverty
medicine.
I
hope
I
got
that
right.
A
I'm
laura
dragowski
from
the
city's
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
robert
dainwood
staff
attorney
for
regional
housing,
legal
services
and
miss
lindsay
powell
assistant
chief
of
staff
to
mayor
peduto.
In
order
to
have
significant
investment
in
the
black
community
is
imperative
that
we
make
our
community
safe
and
peaceful.
We
are
committed
to
rebuilding
black
communities
in
pittsburgh,
for
black
people
by
black
people
in
concert
with
our
various
partners
and
allies.
So
I
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us.
B
I
also
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
watching
and
participating
in
this
town
hall
meeting.
Remember
you
can
watch
this
show
on
facebook,
the
city's
youtube
channel
or
the
city's
cable
channel.
A
new
meeting
will
occur
every
wednesday
by
working
together,
united
purpose.
We
can
transform
our
city
strengthen
it
for
all
of
its
residents.
Pittsburgh
can
only
be
a
city
for
all
when
it
becomes
a
city
where
black
pittsburgh
matters
good
evening,
stay
safe
and
be
blessed.