►
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
Hello,
everybody
welcome.
I
hope
you
had
a
delicious
lunch
I'm
Henry
again
from
mayor
Peduto,
his
office's
small
business
and
neighborhood
revitalization
coordinator
I'm,
very
happy
to
introduce
this
lunchtime
panel
and
get
out
from
in
front
of
the
speaker.
So
here
the
project
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
is
called
the
dairy
district.
It's
in
carrick
it's
a
long
Brownsville
Road,
which
is
one
of
the
oldest
roads
in
Pittsburgh
aesthetics
tending
to
the
south.
A
The
darién
questions,
the
Coulter
jaan
dairy,
still,
it's
the
only
hot
dairy
still
operating
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
that
was
one
of
the
most
prominent
features
on
that
portion
of
Brownsville
Road.
So
the
team,
that's
about
to
speak,
is
going
to
explain
how
they
used
an
existing
asset
to
help
create
a
larger
identity
that
would
help
bring
positive
attention
to
a
place
that
hadn't
had
much
attention
as
of
late.
A
Our
panelists
today
are
Chris
coke
from
the
design
center
of
Pittsburgh
Jason
too
gung
Tyga
know
from
economic
development,
South
Ashley
Deemer
from
councilman
Rudy
acts,
office,
chip,
DeSimone
from
Des,
Moines,
architects
and
Carolyn
Krakowski
from
the
carrot
community,
cows,
council,
I,
hope,
I.
Didn't
screw
up
your
name
awesome,
so
I'm
going
to
hand
it
off
to
Chris
she'll,
be
moderating
the
discussion.
I
hope
you
all
enjoy
it
and
we'll
have
an
opportunity
for
some
questions.
A
little
bit
later
and
I
hope
you're
enjoying
yourselves
today
at
the
2016
Pittsburgh
black
boot
camp.
B
B
It's
that
better,
all
right,
I
think
that's
better.
Okay!
Thank
you.
They
wanted
me
to
mention
that,
if
anybody's
interested
in
the
black
doctors,
they
are
available
now
in
front
of
the
registration
table,
so
you
can
take
this
time
to
go
out
there
and
get
your
blake
crisis
taken
care
of
or
get
some
emergency
help
with
your
blight
issue
with
the
deployed
doctors
that
are
outside.
So
please
take
that
opportunity
to
go
out
and
talk
to
them.
C
Thanks
Chris,
so
the
the
first
thing
to
say
is
Brownsville.
Road
is
an
extremely
long
road
when
you
think
about
a
main
street
district,
it
encompasses
three
separate
municipalities
and
there's
approximately
22,000
cars
a
day,
the
travel
on
it.
For
so
for
a
small,
Main,
Street
business
district.
It
gets
a
lot
of
traffic.
The
unfortunate
thing
is
often
times
that
traffic
doesn't
stop
and
get
out
of
the
car.
C
So
one
thing
that
we
wanted
to
do
in
partnership
with
Councilwoman
Rudy
acts
office
was
really
inspect
the
neighborhood
for
assets
that
we
could
use
for
redevelopment
purposes.
The
culture
andheri
has
existed
for
over
a
hundred
years,
and
about
a
hundred
years
ago
there
were
about
300
dairies
within
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
Today
there
is
one
and
it
is
the
culture
you
andheri.
We
felt
that
that
was
something
worth
celebrating
the
fact
that
we
still
make
things
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
C
The
fact
that
there
is
a
sort
of
local
makers-
growth
market
here
that
we
can
still
capitalize
on
right
next
to
the
dairy
was
a
vacant
lot
that
used
to
be
a
chop
shop,
the
city
to
the
city
demolished
that
building
and
it
just
SAT
vacant
for
a
number
of
years
in
working
with
the
community.
One
of
the
other
things
that
we
discovered
is
that
access
to
good
and
healthy
food
was
something
that
they
were
very
concerned
about,
so
streamlining
this
all
together
into
a
concept
idea
working
with
the
community
with
Councilwoman
Rudy
X
office.
C
We
really
looked
at
this
as
a
multi-phased
project.
The
first
phase
is
that
we
could
construct
a
farmers
market
that
would
be
on
Brownsville
Road.
That
would
provide
that
food
access
that
the
community
is
looking
for.
In
addition,
we
sort
of
beefed
it
up
a
little
bit
to
allow
for
its
use
in
other
community
events
as
a
broader
gathering
space.
This
is
all
right
next
to
the
dairy
which,
if
there
are
slides
going,
it
is
a
giant
white
building
made
out
of
metal.
C
C
So
we
would
do
the
world's
largest
ice
cream
sundae
or
for
our
grand
opening.
We
brought
out
a
couple
of
cows
and
how
many
times
do
you
get
cows
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
that
opening
brought
about
300
residents,
the
kids
loved
it?
It
was
really
an
exciting
idea,
but
just-
and
we
can
obviously
get
into
this
a
lot
more.
But
just
how
you
know,
the
idea
of
building
upon
a
small
piece
can
build
on
a
broader
concept
to
really
reinvigorated.
C
Really
could
be
with
a
jumping
off
point
of
something
that's
really
small
and
not
that
it's
totally
feasible,
but
it
it's
something
that
someone
could
do
with
not
a
great
deal
of
work.
The
pavilion
was
a
good
bit
of
work,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
not
totally
recreating
the
entire
neighborhood
with
the
first
piece.
It
just
sets
that
foundation
that
we
can
then
build
upon
as
the
community
gears
up
as
we
gear
up
as
a
nonprofit
organization
working
with
the
city.
So
all
in
all
it
was
been
a
very
fantastic
process.
C
The
design
center
was
amazingly,
amazingly,
effective
and
instrumental
in
the
design,
making
sure
that
the
community
actually
got
what
they
wanted
to
see
out
of
the
project,
and
it
has
been
open
for
four
months
now
and
it's
been
a
really
great
success
and
we're
looking
forward
to
many
more
events
there.
So
I
will
turn
it
back
to
Chris.
At
this
point,.
B
Thank
you
so
much
so
that's
the
overview
and
you'll
see
pictures
of
different
stages.
We're
going
to
talk
about
during
this
talk.
I
wanted
each
person
to
think
about
their
organization
they're
coming
from
and
just
what
the
role
was
of
your
specific
organization
within
the
project
itself
and
I'll
start
here
with
Ashley
sure.
D
So
I'm
Ashley
Deemer,
I'm
chief
of
staff
for
Councilwoman
Natalia,
Rudy
ACK.
You
know
this
project
really
truly
started
with
a
conversation
between
the
Councilwoman
and
economic
development
South.
In
a
way
our
partnership
has
been
unconventional
and
that
the
Councilwoman
and
economic
development
South
were
coming
up
together.
Economic
development
South
was
new
to
Carrick
and
on
the
council,
woman
was
just
in
her
first
term
on
council
and,
and
so
this
really
was
the
idea
of
both
organizations,
and
so
in
that
way
our
engagement
in
the
process
was
from
the
very
beginning.
D
So
there
was
no
formal
way
that
EDS
came
to
us
and
said:
hey,
please
champion
this
project.
It
just
was
kind
of
natural
in
that
way,
but
over
the
years
our
office
has
helped
facilitate
public
engagement
in
the
process
to
make
sure
that
the
designs
and
the
plans
for
the
block
the
dairy
district
were
in
keeping
with
what
the
neighborhood
wanted
to
see.
We
also
have
championed
funding
for
from
the
city's
coffers,
as
well
as
other
funding
sources.
D
We
you
know
we
can
kind
of
stand
up
and
say
that
we
represent
the
community
and
we
would
like
to
see
grants
funded
and
things
like
that.
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
leverage
as
well
with
the
city
budget,
which
I
can
about
I.
Think
I
think
there's
another
question
related
to
that.
But
we
can
talk
more
about
that,
but
so
we've
brought
some
resources
to
the
project.
We've
brought
some
community
engagement
to
the
process
and
we've
really
tried
to
make
sure
that
this
this
project
is
in
the
public
eye.
D
You
know,
anytime,
people
ask
us
about
Carrick,
anytime
people.
Reporters
come
to
us
specifically
about
what's
happening
in
Carrick.
We
highlight
this
project
and
make
sure
that
that
story
is
told
a
lot
of
the
role
that
the
Councilwoman
has
played
across
South
Pittsburg
is
helping
people.
Remember
that
it's
there
because,
honestly,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
in
South.
D
B
Think
that's
a
really
good
point
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
role
of
your
council
person,
but
I
think
talking
about
storytelling
and
having
the
person
who
is
going
to
go
beyond
the
neighborhood
boundaries
to
tell
that
story
and
to
talk
to
a
larger
region
about
a
project
like
this
only
get
you
more
resources
so
we'll
dive
into
that
a
little
bit
Jason.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
economic
development,
South's
role
in
the
role
of
a
CDC.
C
So
economic
development
South
is
a
multi
municipal
CDC.
We
work
across
16,
different
independent
municipalities
or
city
neighborhoods,
so
we're
a
little
bit
more
unique
than
traditional
CDC's,
but
really
our
role
is.
That
of
that
would
be
the
same
as
any
neighborhood
CDC,
because
we're
a
nonprofit
organization
were
able
to
apply
for
funding
to
foundations
and
the
government
I
will
recognize.
You
help
me
remember.
Beyond
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
Councilman
Rudy
axe
office,
the
mayor
has
supported
this
project
with
funding.
C
We
got
a
large
grant
from
the
helmand
foundation
as
well
to
really
Drive
this
project
forward,
but
EDS
played
the
role
we
own,
the
property
we
own,
the
land
that
was
sort
of
a
case
of,
but
for
so
without
someone
taking
ownership
of
the
land
and
actually
covering
the
utilities,
the
taxes,
the
liability
insurance,
the
city
really
does
not
want
to
do
that
anymore.
So,
if
you
want
to
do
these
types
of
projects,
you
need
an
organization
that
is
prepared
to
own
land.
C
That
does
come
with
a
certain
amount
of
responsibility,
but
it
is
that
sort
of
thing
that
we've
recognized
needs
to
be
done
in
neighborhoods,
and
that
really
is
what
we
see
our
role
being.
If
we
can't
find
other
owners,
then
we
need
to
do
that
so
and
then
sort
of
project
managing
construction
management
working
with
desmond
architects
being
out
at
the
site,
just
making
sure
that
the
construction
goes
well,
that
the
project
actually
materializes
in
the
way
that
it
was
designed
and
drawn
to
do
so.
C
It's
really,
you
know
from
start
to
finish,
I
would
say,
probably
our
project
more
than
anyone
elses,
but
clearly
there
was
a
team
behind
this
and
we
could
not
have
done
this
without
the
councilwoman's
office.
Desmond
architects,
our
construction
group,
pw
campbell,
was
very
flexible
with
us
and
sort
of
this
unique
concept
of
a
design.
C
But
it's
it's
understanding
that
without
economic
development
south
as
the
main
pusher
on
this
with
great
partners
that
this
work
would
not
have
been
done.
So,
as
a
community
group
you
you
need
to
realize
that
it's
really
on
you
and
working
with
those
folks
and
those
stakeholders
around
in
your
community
to
really
garner
support
to
see
these
projects
through,
because
they're
not
easy,
and
they
don't
happen
overnight.
B
So
before
we
go
into
the
next
person,
I'll
just
say
a
little
bit
about
the
design
centers
role.
The
design
center
is
a
nonprofit
that
helps
communities,
access,
design
and
planning
services.
Our
role
in
this
project
was
to
bring
technical
assistance
and
grant
dollars
to
the
design
and
planning
phase
and
to
help
the
community
tackle
physical
space
and
the
built
environment
as
part
of
this
project
and
through
that
process.
B
E
Thanks
Chris
and
thanks
for
inviting
me
today
des
Moines
as
Chris
said,
Des
Moines,
architects
was
hired
by
by
a
Community
Design
Center
to
be
the
architect
for
what
is
essentially
their
client,
which
is
economic
development.
South
and
Natalia
react
in
the
city
and
the
community
of
Carrick
as
well.
So
the
first
part
of
the
project
for
us
is
really
just
spending
a
lot
of
time.
E
As
you
know
what
specifically
the
neighbors
wanted
to
see
created
in
this
district,
and
so
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
really
just
the
first
several
meetings,
just
kind
of
listening
and
trying
to
collect
as
much
information
about
their
goals
for
the
project
as
we
possibly
could
and
then
bringing
back
thoughts
and
ideas
about
how
we
could
proceed
really
before
we
even
got
to
the
the
pavilion
on
the
vacant
lot.
We
kind
of
created
a
broader
visioning
plan
for
the
district
area
itself
and
and
kind
of
created.
E
What
we
thought
were
an
approach
to
how
the
design
of
this
specific
neighborhood
would
would
work
and
then
that
that
pavilion
kind
of
came
out
of
and
evolved
out
of,
that.
That
plan
that
we
created,
some
of
which
were
seeing
drawings
up
here,
that
we
did
and
that's
really
how
it,
how
it
got,
started
and
evolved
into
what
became
the
pavilion
project.
B
F
Is
you
keep
hearing
over
and
over
people
are
mentioning
community
engagement
and
one
of
the
things
being
an
organization
with
members
of
Carrick
and,
being
you
know,
around
people
at
our
different
events,
seeing
about
the
grocery
store,
we're
always
getting
feedback
on
different
projects,
things
that
people
would
like,
so
it
care
community
council.
One
of
the
main
things
that
we
did
was
just
make
sure
that
we
engaged
as
much
of
the
community
as
we
could.
You
know.
F
Certainly
people
sure
out
there
that
know
the
same
community
people
that
you
see
at
each
event
and
we
wanted
to
reach
beyond
that.
So
we
looked
and
said.
Okay,
maybe
we
don't
see
anyone
here
from
the
schools
or
that
have
children
in
the
schools,
let's
reach
out
and
remind
them
that
there's
a
meeting
coming
up,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
is
just
try
to
get
a
really
good
example
of
all
everybody's
needs
and
what
it
would
meet
for
them
so
that
we
could
kind
of
get
feedback
and
pass
that
along.
B
F
Think
a
lot
of
times
when
you
think
about
development,
you
think
oh
I
want
to
have
this
here.
I
want
to
have
this
here,
but
you
really,
you
know,
that's
part
of
the
discussion,
but
you
really
want
to
stop
and
take
a
step
and
say
what
do
we
already
have?
What
is
awesome
about
our
neighborhood
and
one
of
the
things?
Of
course,
as
was
mentioned,
we
had
a
dairy
and
carrick
in
the
city.
It's
working,
I
mean.
Would
that
was
kind
of
amazing
and
a
lot
of
people
didn't
know
that.
F
So
it's
definitely
ideas
like
that
that
make
your
neighborhood
unique
and
that
really
you
know
for
a
hundred
years
that
it's
it's
been
operating
in
what
a
rich
history
you
know,
I
would
think
that
they're
not
going
to
get
up
and
and
leave
they've
been
a
part
of
it
there
a
person,
you
know
that
have
been
the
residents
they
their
parents.
Remember
it,
but
we
heard
stories.
We
talked
about
the
dairy
district.
Oh
you
know
my
parents
used
to
go
up
there
and
get
milk.
F
They
used
to
go
up
and
you
could
just
ring
the
buzzer
and
you
get.
It
just
brings
out
so
many
great
stories
about
the
community
when
you
really
tie
it
to
some
historic
relevance
to
everyone
so
I.
You
know,
history
is
a
huge
part
of
it,
just
to
kind
of
get
that
buy-in
from
everybody
and
just
get
people
talking
and
get
them
excited
about
it.
I.
B
Think
you're
right
as
far
as
storytelling,
one
of
the
things
that
really
struck
me
was
the
conversation
that
came
out
of
this,
that
this
was
the
last
area
out
of
300
and
something
like
a
few
thousand
in
the
whole
county
and
that
you
know
there
was
a
history
that
was
lost
in
most
of
the
city,
but
luckily
carrick
still
has
that
and
I
think
that's
important
story
to
tell
as
part
of
this
larger
project,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
to
economic
development
South.
You
know
this.
B
C
Absolutely
so
it
you
know
when
we're
looking
at
Brownsville
Road
we're
looking
at
ultimately
an
economic
market
and,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
there's
about
twenty
two
thousand
cars
that
travel
on
our
road
every
day.
Those
are
business
opportunities
for
retailers,
those
are
residential
opportunities
for
neighborhoods
and
municipalities.
C
The
idea
that
the
work
that
we
do
ties
back
into
that
market
strategy
that
blends
in
with
what
the
existing
neighborhood
already
wants,
is
tremendously
important
understanding
your
population
and
who
the
folks
are
that
you're
trying
to
serve
in
that
neighborhood
is
important.
We
are
working
to
try
to
build
new
housing,
bring
new
apartments,
senior,
affordable,
senior
apartment
buildings
to
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
a
we
have
a
large
immigrant
population
that
we're
trying
to
be
very
mindful
of
that
is
growing
in
our
neighborhoods.
C
Is
that
Outsiders
go
in
and
check
it
out
and
then
leave
again
and
come
back
another
day
and
check
it
out
again
and
spend
their
money
and
then
go
back
home,
and
so
the
idea
that
we
can
make
this
a
draw
for
for
others
to
come
and
check
out
and
see
a
giant
white
building
with
Cal
print
on
it
right
yeah?
That's
not
something!
You
see
every
day
in
being
quirky
and
thoughtful
about
what
makes
our
neighborhoods
authentically
unique
right.
B
It's
my
hope
that
the
cow
building
keeps
evolving
eventually
has
like
horns
and
a
snout,
so
it
actually
looks
like
a
cow,
but
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
unfortunately,
culture.
Yawn
couldn't
be
here
today,
because
they're,
obviously
making
their
amazing
chocolate,
milk
and
they're
really
good
iced
tea,
which
Henry
wanted
me
to
remind
people,
is
very
good
and
everybody
should
get
some
jasa.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
role
of
a
private
company
like
culture
yawn?
C
Think
a
private
company
has
a
couple
of
opportunities
with
private
development
like
this
first
is
sort
of
marketing,
PR
and
growth.
This
really,
if
you
frame
it
the
right
way,
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
poultry
on
to
get
a
lot
of
free
or
low-cost
advertising
right
by
partnering
with
us
in
our
work
and
the
councilwoman's
work
in
the
communities,
work
and
everybody's
working,
highlighting
the
dairy.
Thousands.
C
Tens
of
thousands
of
people
are
now
aware
that
there's
only
one
dairy
left
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
when
there
used
to
be
three
hundred
and
so
I
think
that
has
been
a
big
boost
to
them,
as
well
as
the
sort
of
that
latent
spill
off
of
as
we
get
new
new
residents
and
new
folks
coming
in
to
the
pavilion
as
we
open
up
new
restaurants
and
do
other
things.
Ultimately,
it
raises
real
estate
values.
It
raises
property
values.
C
It
makes
the
land
around
they're
worth
more
money
which,
ultimately
is
is
dollars
and
investment
back
into
the
company
right
if
their
land
is
worth
more
than
their
assets,
are
worth
more
and
so,
there's
I
think
a
couple
of
different
layers
of
ways
that
companies
private
companies
can
benefit
out
of
partnering,
with
redevelopment
cdc's
community
groups,
local
elected
officials
to
really
elevate
the
neighborhood
and
make
it
a
broader
draw
for
people.
Candidly
I
think
that
our
local
businesses
are
really
the
tip
of
the
spear
in
that,
if
you're
driving
down
the
road.
C
The
first
thing
you
see
are
the
retail
businesses
on
the
road.
If
they
don't
look,
nice
you're,
probably
not
going
to
stop
your
car
get
out
and
shop
if
they
don't
look
like
you're,
probably
not
turning
off
of
that
main
road
back
into
the
neighborhood
and
looking
for
a
place
to
live,
so
to
really
have
a
good
partnership
with
our
local
businesses
to
really
have
them.
/
tips
participating
as
anchors
in
the
project
not
only
benefit
the
project
itself,
but
benefit
the
business
and,
and
there
are
opportunities
to
make
money,
which
is
why
they
exist.
B
So
I
think
that
was
an
amazing.
You
know
thing
to
really
reach
out
to
them
and
bring
them
into
this.
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
with
Ashley
about
you
know.
A
lot
of
people
always
come
to
us
and
I'm
sure
to
a
lot
of
you
as
well
say
how
do
we
work
with
our
council
person?
What
kind
of
resources
can
they
bring
to
the
project?
How
do
we
sort
of
engage
them
and
so
Ashley?
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about?
What's
the
best
way
to
really
do
that
in
a
neighborhood,
yeah
sure.
D
Hi
so
so,
obviously
every
council
person
is
different,
so
you're
going
to
want
to
want
to
get
to
know
your
council
person
and
understand
what
role
they
take
on
in
the
community.
Because
again
it
council
is
really
what
you
make
it
right
so,
but,
from
my
perspective,
I
would
suggest
I
think
one
of
the
major
questions
people
always
have
is
when
to
engage
their
council
person.
Do
you
come
with
a
fully-fledged
idea,
or
do
you
get
them
involved
earlier?
And
I
would
say
earlier
is
better.
I
mean
this
this.
This
is
true
for
everyone.
D
You
know
when
you
get
someone
in
on
the
ground
floor
of
an
idea,
and
they
play
a
part
in
helping
build
that
idea.
They
feel
ownership
over
it.
They
feel
pride
about
it,
and
the
same
is
true
for
council
people.
So
in
our
case
Councilwoman
rudy
ack
was
you
know
at
the
table
from
the
very
start,
and
so
this
was
on
the
tip
of
her
tongue.
Everywhere
she
went
and
anytime
we
looked
at
the
city
budget
at
any
time
there
was
a
grant
opportunity.
D
She
was
thinking
about
the
character,
e-district
and
that's
the
relationship
you
want
to
cultivate
with
your
council
person
in
terms
of
actual
mechanisms
by
which
you
reach
out
to
your
council
person.
There
are
so
many
different
ways.
You
know
again
it's
it's
very
specific
to
the
district
that
you're
in
but,
for
example,
our
office
is
at
just
about
every
community
meeting.
You
can
think
of
that's
public
in
the
neighborhood,
and
so
you
can
always
approach
your
council
person
face-to-face
or
their
staff
face
to
face
it.
D
A
meeting
don't
be
shy
about
calling
your
council
person's
office
and
asking
for
a
meeting
to
talk
through
an
idea.
That's
what
they're
there
for
and-
and
you
should
take
every
advantage
of
that
I
would
also
say
in
terms
of
resources.
You
know
there
there's
sometimes
a
misconception
that
the
city
has
a
pot
of
money
to
just
pay
for
projects
outright,
and
the
reality
is
that
the
city's
budget
is
limited.
D
So
with
this
project
I'm
with
a
broader
visioning
for
the
project,
there's
a
lot
of
streetscape
work,
there's
a
lot
of
reimagining
of
how
to
use
that
space
in
the
roadway.
So
you
know
the
city
very
often
devotes
planning
dollars
to
redesigning
that
public
space
devotes
capital
dollars
to
rebuilding,
sidewalks
and
repaving
roads
and
putting
in
crosswalks
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
can
devote
actual
dollars
to
that
for
contract,
work
or
in-kind
work
in
terms
of
actually
building
it
with
our
Public
Works
professionals.
D
So,
with
the
pavilion
for
example,
we
we,
the
city,
did
pay
for
the
sidewalks
and
the
plantings
around
the
pavilion
and
that's
how
we
can
play
a
role.
We
very
seldomly
pay
for
a
project
in
its
entirety,
but
we
can
play
a
very
specific
role,
so
I
would
say
again,
engage
early
and
often
keep
your
your
council
person
in
mind
every
step
of
the
way
and
and
and
they
will
support
you
back.
Yeah
yeah.
B
I'm
always
I'm
always
surprised
when
I
talk
to
people
that
people
don't
realize
that
they
can
call
their
council
person
and
just
meet
with
them.
I
think
people
think
that
that's
not
something
they're
supposed
to
do
so.
We
encourage
that
all
the
time,
because
you
know
obviously,
if
you're
just
getting
something
started
or
just
want
to
have
a
dialogue
just
make
an
appointment.
The
easiest
way
to
get
started.
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
that
the
Urban
Redevelopment
Authority
City
Planning
and
the
mayor's
office
play
huge
roles
in
this
project.
B
Only
did
they
provide
funding
for
our
design
piece.
They
also
spent
provided
a
lot
of
funding
and
worked
a
lot
of
spent
a
lot
of
their
staff
time.
Helping
us,
you
know
basically
navigate.
You
know
the
sidewalks,
the
site
itself,
ownership
issues,
funding
sources,
so
you
know
they
were
usually
involved
in
this
project
and
I
think
the
councilwoman's
office
was
really
great
and
helping
us
knowing
navigate
that,
but
sort
of
you
know
talk
to
figure
out
who
to
go
talk
to
and
how
to
sort
of
deal
with
all
the
different
people
that
we
had
to.
B
So
do
economic
development
south,
though
I
think
that's
a
role
that
you
want
to
make
sure
you're
involving
your
council
person,
because
they
can
help
you
navigate
those
city
systems
whenever
you
need
to
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
the
design
piece,
so
so
chip.
If
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
is
the
role
of
design
in
Community
Redevelopment
and
what
kind
of
expertise
did
you
really
bring
to
this
to
this
process?
And
why
was
it
needed
very
early
on.
E
Thanks
Chris
a
a
couple
things:
we've
had
a
long
history
of
community
development
projects.
Our
office
in
lawrenceville
was
a
community
design
center
project
24
years
ago,
back
when
back
when
it
was
the
first
one
so
yeah.
So
when
you
think
about
lawrenceville
today,
you
think
about
this
highly
successful
neighborhood.
E
That's
you
know
going
gangbusters,
but
what
most
people
don't
remember
is
that
24
years
ago
it
was
one
of
the
scariest
neighborhoods
in
the
city
in
a
very,
very
dangerous
place
and
the
community
design
center,
along
with
the
local
CDC
at
the
time,
which
was
lawrenceville,
Development
Corporation
and
the
the
mayor's
office
in
the
URA,
along
with
some
foundation
funding
hired.
You
know,
convinced
everybody
too,
that
this
building
in
Doughboy
Square
was
worth
saving.
E
It
had
no
roof
at
the
time,
no
windows
or
anything,
and
you
know
it
ultimately
became
the
catalyst
for
what
was
the
redevelopment
of
an
entire
neighborhood.
So
really
all
it
takes
is
just
you
know
the
determination
of
one
community
activist
2
to
Marshall
all
the
the
people
that
need
to
come
together
to
do
this
and
you're.
Just
seeing
you
know,
five
people
up
here.
Talk
about
district,
but
you
know
in
Carrick,
just
like
in
lawrenceville.
It
takes
literally
dozens
of
people
who
are
determined
to
rid
a
neighborhood
of
blight
to
to
make
it
happen.
E
Who
could
bring
funding
to
bear.
You
really
can't
make
it
happen.
So,
like
I
said,
it
just
takes
a
large
group
of
people
to
to
buy
into
a
vision
to
to
to
direct
the
design
team
to
come
up
with
specific
ideas
that
they
can
take
to
the
council,
the
council,
the
mayor's
office,
the
URA
and
the
larger
community
to
to
buy
into
this
vision.
E
But
I
wanted
to
say
that
for
me
personally,
this
project
was
a
lot
of
fun
because
I
is
the
senior
person
in
my
office
now
I,
don't
really
get
to
play
in
this
realm
very
much
anymore
and
on
this
project.
I
personally
got
to
actually
draw
again
and
and
do
neat
things
like
that
which
I
hadn't
done
in
years
and
so
I
just
found
it
a
lot
of
fun.
E
To
do
and,
and
you
know,
drawing
those
cow
patches
on
the
building
was
a
lot
of
fun
and
creating
the
gateway
and
and
doing
those
drawings
was
just
a
blast
for
me
personally,
and
it
just
I
think
helped
get
my
office
really
engaged
in
a
way
that
it
was
kind
of
exciting
for
us
and
really
helped
enroll
the
entire
office
in
helping
to
create
something
really
unique
and
special
for
what
is
a
unique
and
special
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
B
It's
a
really
good
point.
I
think
something
we
often
miss,
because
there's
in
many
communities
there's
so
much
around
blade.
That
is
negative
and-
and
it
was
right,
it
should
be
it's
a
terrible
thing
to
have
to
look
at
every
day
and
live
around
every
day,
but
when
you
do
get
those
wins
to
celebrate
them
and
to
have
try
to
have
fun
during
the
process,
you
know
the
one
thing
I
loved
about
every
community
meeting
had
chocolate
milk-
you
just
couldn't.
B
When
you
get
those
winds
to
really
celebrate
them
and
talk
about
them,
we
want
to
dive
a
little
bit
or
I
wanted
to
have
a
little
bit
into
talking
to
everybody
about
some
of
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
some
of
these
projects.
You
know
one
thing
that
I
always
used
to
get
frustrated
when
I
heard
a
panel
as
they
never
tell
you
what
were
the
winds?
What
were
the
losses
like?
B
What
really
worked,
what
really
didn't
work
and
how
did
you
get
past
those
barriers
because
you're
going
to
hit
them
every
every
project
does
and
I
just
want
to
ask
the
whole
panel.
If
anybody
can
think
about
anything,
that
was
a
real
opportunity
that
you
seized
or
a
real
barrier
that
we
that
we
pushed
through
during
the
project
and
and
how
that
sort
of
came
about.
How
did
you
get
through
it?
If
anybody
has
any
ideas.
C
You
know
one
of
the
big
things
that
the
community
wanted
to
see
a
lot
of
was
actually
parking
which,
on
one
hand,
is
needed
in
neighborhoods,
and
we
understand
that,
on
the
other
hand,
when
we're
dealing
with
a
specific
site
that
has
you
know
a
certain
square
footage
using
some
of
that
for
temporary
parking
may
not
be
the
highest
and
best
use
of
that
site.
So
we
had
a
little
bit
of
community
pushback.
We
did
sort
of
work
through
that
there
really
is
not
any
parking
on
the
site.
C
C
Much
more
I
think
that
it
would
have
from
two
or
three
cars
just
sitting
on
it
and
really
holding
up
space
so
really
trying
to
think
through
what
the
end
use
and
the
end
goal
of
a
project
really
is
is
important
because
there
can
be
those
perceptions
of
oh.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
parking
here.
Well
on
this
on
our
lot,
we
could
have
had
three
spaces,
and
you
know
three
spaces
at
a
farmers.
C
So
off
the
top
of
my
head,
that
would
be
one
is
just
really
trying
to
think
of
of
really
that
end
end
use
and
what
you
really
need
to
get
out
of
that,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
cram
50
things
into
one
site,
because
we
want
to
try
to
get
a
little
bit
of
everything
into
something.
You
know
really
let
the
project
be
what
the
project
is,
because
you
know
one
parking
isn't
really.
C
B
B
Think
the
good
point
is
how
I
think
that
everybody,
the
partnership,
put
their
heads
together
and
one
of
the
solutions,
was
to
work
with
the
city
to
close
down
the
side
street
on
days
when
there's
an
event
or
when
there's
a
market,
so
that
you
know
the
market,
people
can
still
pull
up,
but
it
obviously
does
not
change
the
site,
design
and
I.
Think
I
think
that
was
a
great
solution
to
try
to
you
know
we
want
to
solve
as
much
as
you
can
the
parking
issue,
but
not
use
a
lot
of
spaces
hardscape.
D
I
mean
thinking
more
broadly,
as
chip
said
this.
This
dairy
district
concept
started
out
with
a
broader
visioning
process
for
a
whole
block
of
karyx
Brownsville
Road.
So
we
were
looking
at
everything
from
the
streetscape
to
two
storefronts
and
what
they
would
look
like
in
a
color
palette
and
street
furniture
and
lighting,
and
so
much
of
that
is
not
in
our
control.
These
are
privately
owned
buildings
and,
ultimately
you
know
it's
it's
kind
of
our
job.
D
So
this
was
a
vacant
lot,
that
we
had
site,
control
of
and
EDS
and
our
office,
and
does
mon
made
the
most
of
it
right.
So
you
have
to
choose
that
low
hanging,
fruit
and
and
just
move
forward-
and
you
know
the
process
continues
right,
that
that
is
phase
one,
and
we
hope
that
that
will
again
make
the
case
to
everyone
else
that
they
can
safely
invest
and,
and
things
will
keep
going
the
way
we've
said
they
will
so
I.
D
Think
that
was
an
opportunity
and
a
barrier
you
know
again
is
kind
of
that
bureaucratic
side
of
it
all
those.
This
is
why
things
take
time
right
like
the
negotiations
about
who
would
hold
the
property
at
the
Pavilion.
Would
it
be
the
city?
Would
it
be
economic
development
South
who
would
hold
the
insurance
on
that
property?
Who
would
maintain
the
property?
D
These
are
all
conversations
that
you
don't
necessarily
think
about
when
you're,
initially
dreaming
of
what
what
a
space
could
be,
but
they're
very
necessary
and
they
take
time,
and
so
just
understanding
that
up
front
and
and
knowing
that
you'll
you'll
have
to
go
there.
It
is
a
good
thing
to
keep
in
mind
yeah.
B
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
You
know
when
you're
having
fun
thinking
about
what
are
we
going
to
put
here?
You're,
not
thinking
about
wow?
How
am
I
going
to
maintain
this
later
right,
but
it's
something
we
always
bring
up
in
our
designs
phase,
because
you
know
the
design
and
build
phase
is
a
small
part
of
what
the
maintenance
is
going
to
be
forever
so
Jason.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
is
next
for
the
dairy
district
itself
and
what
kind
of
work
EBS
is
doing
on
Brownsville
Road
in
general,.
C
So
there
there's
a
couple
of
different
phases
to
this
project
and
then
within
the
phases
there
are
phases
so
phase.
One
of
the
project
was
the
actual
market
pavilion
itself.
There
is
a
phase
two
to
the
market
pavilion.
We
have
to
complete
the
rear
of
the
site
and
we
are
also
lobbying
very
heavily
to
acquire
an
additional
piece
of
property
that
is
adjacent
to
it.
That
would
allow
us
to
expand
the
site.
C
I
would
mostly
be
passive,
green
space
and
gardening,
but
as
a
community
amenity,
we
think
that
that's
really
important
and
it's
something
that
we've
been
advocating
for
for
a
while.
So
hopefully
those
things
will
be
done
in
the
spring
of
17.
As
for
the
additional
site
or
the
additional
project,
we
want
to
paint.
The
dairy
were
right
now,
also
in
conversation
about
a
unique
bus
stomp
out
there
just
to
sort
of
further
complement
that
those
are
two
shorter
term
projects.
C
Ultimately,
we're
in
discussions
with
the
Coulter
yawns
who
own
I,
want
to
say
about
ninety
five
percent
of
both
of
the
other
side
of
the
blocks
about
what
sort
of
opportunities
would
best
be
available
for
them
as
well
unfortunate.
Well,
fortunately,
and
unfortunately,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
we
don't
actually
own
a
lot
of
the
buildings
that
we're
trying
to
work
on.
So
we
have
to
sort
of
be
mindful
what
would
be
best
for
the
Coulter
yawns.
C
That
could
be
really
cool
in
addition
to
that
we're
working
strategically
on
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
retail.
Along
Brownsville
Road
we've
been
working
with
business
owners
in
the
area
to
do
facade
and
grant
improvements,
pop
up
store
fronts,
just
different
things
and
small
scale
to
sort
of
try
to
activate
the
business
district
as
much
as
possible.
We're
also
working
on
a
couple
of
housing
plans,
there's
one
under
construction.
Now
that
I
think,
is
about
sixteen
million
dollars.
It'll
be
66
new
units
of
senior
housing,
mostly
affordable.
We're
very
excited
about
that.