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On this episode of CityTalk, John interviews Alexander Fisher and Chris Belasco from the Department of Innovation & Performance.
A
Welcome
to
another
edition
of
city
talk
I'm
john
mcintyre.
This
is
where
we
find
out
what
these
people
do
around
here
and
make
sure
your
precious
taxpayers
money
isn't
being
wasted.
Here's
alex
fisher
of
the
city's
cable
team.
He
never
wastes
a
penny
either
personally
or
professionally.
He's
quite
thrifty
and
an
excellent
multitasker
alex
welcome
to
the
program.
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
Would
say
it
is
more
busiest
now
busier
now,
because
your
your
responsibilities
and
your
workflow
changed
and
you
tend
to
spend
more
hours
in
front
of
the
computer
screen
and
you
have
to
do
your
work
differently
because
you're
always
close
to
the
computer.
You
tend
to
come
back,
you
tend
to
grab
a
sandwich
and
come
back
and
see
whether
your
jobs
that
you
are
doing
is
finished
or
you
have
an
idea
and
you
don't
have
to
wait
till
another
day.
You
are
in
office.
Uranium
can
do
another
room
and
try
to
see
how
it
works.
B
Sometimes
you
come
back
at
saturday
or
sunday,
so
it
seems
like
you're
spending
more
times
in
front
of
the
computer
screen
again
because
you
you're
doing
the
work
differently.
There
are
additional
steps.
You
have
to
do
to
turn.
For
example,
these
zoom
meetings
into
the
tv
show
so
yeah,
I
would
say
yes,
it
seems
we
are
working
all.
A
B
B
I
would
say
it's
not
easy
spending
more
times
at
home,
sometimes
not
even
getting
the
fresh
air
not
seeing
much
friends
not
talking
too
many
people
yeah,
it's
not
easy
and
other
times
when
I
have
have
opportunity
to
go
outside
into
the
park
so
to
meet
my
friends,
you
have
to
keep
distance
from
them
and
from
other
people
and
wearing
masks
during
the
work
hours
is
not
very
easy
sitting
at
home.
It's
okay,
no
problems!
A
Right,
I
was
just
going
to
ask
about
that
that
drives
me
crazy
when
I'm
in
a
grocery
store
and
just
trying
to
read
the
ingredients
in
something
and
then
it
fogs
up.
I
realized
that
you
and
I
and
18
billion
other
people
are
experiencing
this.
So
it's
not
just
us,
but
that
is
really
annoying.
Isn't
it.
B
B
Not
specifically
on
zoom,
but
we
use,
I
use
different
video
conferencing
platforms,
so
skype
google
doors
and
some
others.
So
when
this
covered
and
hit
and
we
had
to
go
work
remotely,
we
had
to
test
various
video
conferencing
platforms
to
find
out
which
one
is
best
for
our
needs
for
our
desires
and
has
requirements
that.
A
B
A
C
B
A
D
A
D
Data
engineers
and
data
analysts
and
engineers
are
folks
who
have
a
sort
of
a
computing
background,
that's
very
technical
and
what
they
do
is
they
know
how
to
write
pro.
You
know
program
code
to
bring
data
from
lots
of
disparate
sources
from
different
pieces
of
software
that
we
have
or
subscribe
to
and
bring
it
into
a
city,
storage
and
data.
D
D
Or
you
know
the
the
request
is
being
closed
out,
and
so
that
would
help
our
our
friends
over
in
the
department
of
public
works,
make
operational
decisions
about
where
to
prioritize
work
or,
and
if
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
share
that
with
the
public
and
be
more
transparent
about
how
quickly
we're
getting
their
their
needs
met.
That
would
be
a
great
outcome
of
this
kind
of
work,
and
so
somebody's
got
to
be
responsible
for
trying
to
make
that
happen.
So.
A
D
A
Those
glasses
appear
to
give
you
credibility.
I
don't
recall
you
having
those
particular
glasses
when
you
were
here
when
we
were
both
live
here
in
the
city
county
building,
you're
making
me
blush
well
now
I
have
some
glasses.
Did
these
give
me
any
more
credibility
or
there
we
go
now
we're
twins
yeah.
I
don't
know
yours.
D
A
A
D
A
A
A
A
D
A
A
D
That
doesn't
seem
approachable
yeah,
so
I
used
to
do
a
program
evaluation
for
the
federal
government.
I
did
it
through
pitt.
We
had
a
like
an
analysis
shop
that
we
ran
out
of
with
political
scientists
and
faculty
at
the
graduate
school
of
public
international
affairs.
I
was
sort
of
like
its
managing
director.
D
I
got
to
go
to
west
africa
a
whole
lot
to
to
do
some,
some
pretty
interesting
program,
evaluation,
research
and
train
west
africans
on
how
to
how
to
do
some
of
the
things
that
we
were
doing
in
our
in
our
own
research
work.
I'm
a
professor
I'm
an
adjunct,
professor
at
the
graduate
school
of
public
international
affairs,
and
how
to
do
program,
evaluation
and
basic
quantitative
analysis.
D
So
I
get
I
get
to
use
some
of
those
chops
which
is
kind
of
fun,
but
I
don't
know.
I
think
that
every
every
project
like
like
having
a
data
services,
office
or
or
some
of
that
other
work
that
I
was
doing
is
really
fun
because
you,
you
really
get
get
to
begin
at
a
point
where
you're
asking
the
question:
what
do
you?
D
A
D
Well,
it
gives
me
as
much
as
much
iron
city
as
I'd
like
no
kidding
awesome
yeah
among
others,
and
you
know
I
I
can
get
as
much
baloney
as
I
as
I
need,
and
mancini's
I've
been
told.
So
I
mean
life
is
life
is
pretty
sweet,
but
only
on
one
day
a
year
the
day
that
you
know
that
now
we
we
want.
I
I
was
awarded
that
and
it
was,
it
was
quite
an
honor
and
I
got
to
meet
the
mayor.
Our
director
garces
was
there.
D
D
Well,
it
has
like
a
date
on
it
and
a
year
on
it,
so
I've
decided
that
that
day
is
the
day
every
year
you
can
celebrate
the
anniversary.
Whenever
you
want,
I
yeah.
No,
it's
now
my
day
awesome.
It
may
also
be
somebody
else's
day
and
if
you
happen
to
meet
anybody
who
shares
like,
I
know
whatever
that
end
of
august
date
is
with
me.
Let
you
know
hook
me
up
and
and
we
can,
you
know
we
can
have
a
club
for,
like
you
know,
august
28th
or
whatever
it
is.
A
A
D
My
family
is
is
all
in
good
health
and
most
people
that
I
know
have
not
contracted
it,
but
I'm
sure
that
lots
of
people
are
not
not
doing
as
well,
and
I
you
know,
I'm
I'm
a
little
worried
for
how
how
things
are
going,
but
you
know
I
have
a
a
family
and
we're
we're
kind
of
holed
up
here
in
the
in
the
belasco
abode,
most
of
the
time
doing
what
we
can
to
stay
physically
and
socially
distant.
You.
A
D
A
D
D
No
everybody's
doing
doing
well
with
it
I
mean
the
kids
have
been
enormously
patient.
You
know
we
try
to
be
outside
as
much
as
we
can.
We've
had
family
who
have
been
really
careful
about
being
real
restrictive
about
how
they
they
get
around
too,
which
makes
it
easy
for
us
to
get
around,
even
though
it's
still
not
completely
devoid
of
risk.