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On this episode of CityTalk, John interviews Deputy City Controller Rachael Heisler and Alexandra Lewis from the Department of Innovation & Performance.
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A
little
irritated,
not
because
you're
here
we're
delighted
to
have
you,
but
just
the
other
day
you
and
I
were
sitting
in
your
office
like
normal
people,
we
didn't
have
any
masks
on.
We
were
just
shooting
the
bowl
preparing
for
this
interview
and
then
a
few
days
later,
bing
bang
boom.
The
delta
variant
brings
its
ugly
head
that
arrears.
It's
up,
we
had
maybe
ringing
in
ugly
head
too.
I
don't
know-
and
here
we
are.
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Yeah,
it's
really
sad
too.
You
know
these
are
they're
vulnerable
populations
all
right.
Some
of
these
people
are
very
vulnerable
already
and
they've
taken
to
you,
know
social
media
to
get
their
news
and
again
I'm
not
a
public
health
expert,
but
I
I
do
think
some
of
these
news
sources
are
just
it's.
It's
scary,
the
information
that
people
are
digesting
and
listening
to
instead
of
physicians-
and
you
know,
doctors,
nurses,
etc.
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B
I
started
during
covid.
My
first
day
was
january
11th,
so
in
the
dead
of
winter,
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
I
started
with
the
city
controller's
office
and
we've
gradually
reopened
it
for
in-person
work.
We've
had
imp
people
in
our
office
throughout
the
pandemic
that
we're
an
essential
function
of
the
city
is
paying
our
bills
and
we've
had
employees
in
the
office
every
week
since
the
beginning
of
of
march
of
2020.
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It's
crazy,
it's
very
strange
to
become
you
know,
get
to
know
people
through
a
computer
screen.
I
feel
like
we're
all
getting
better
at
it
as
time
has
progressed,
but
it
is
a
very
awkward
thing
to
do.
It's
you're
very
deliberate
in
your
communication
and
it's
it's
it's
for
sure
odd
and
I
I
have
a
feeling
it's
not
going
to
go
away
anytime
soon,
but
it
it
has
been
nice
to
be
able
to
meet
people
and
see
see
my
colleagues
in
person
when
folks
come
into
the
office
and
are
rotating
through.
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B
Well,
we've
had
employee
our
we've,
you
know
our
workforce
has
worked
throughout.
The
pandemic
audits
have
been
released,
our
financial
reporting
has
has
been
released,
bills
have
been
paid,
so
we
will
bring
people
back
in
slowly
and
and
deliberately
throughout
the
fall
and
make
sure
that
people
feel
safe
and
are
you
know,
protected
from
the
virus
to
the
extent
possible?
Obviously
this
is
not.
This
is
the
situation
is
changing,
but
we
want
to
we'll.
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B
Like
everybody
else,
I
mean
this
is
just
a
really
unprecedented
experience.
It's
very
strange,
you
know
I'm,
I
walk
a
lot
I'm
outside,
as
often
as
I
can
be,
I
I
do
dur
on
the
weekends
I
do
eight
miles
and
on
the
you
know,
weekdays.
If
I
can
swing
four
or
five,
I
I
get
out
and
I
walk
and
I
have
been
exercising
at
my
gym
for
the
last
few
months.
I've
been
vaccinated
since
february
because
of
a
pre-existing
condition.
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I
have
sport
masks
well,
like
so
I'll.
Wear
those
and
I'll
feel
very
safe.
It's
more
of
a
consideration
for
other
people,
but
I
feel
like
I
have
to
do
my
part
and
I'll
wear
a
mask
if
that
makes
other
people
more
likely
to
wear
a
mask-
and
hopefully
everybody
that's
unvaccinated
in
the
next
month
or
so
will
find
their
find
themselves
at
the
doctor's
office,
getting
getting
a
shot.
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B
I
wanted
to
be
a
teacher.
I
grew
up.
My
family
business
is
educated
public
education,
I'm
the
granddaughter
and
daughter
of
public
school
teachers,
and
I
went
to
pitt
to
be
a
spanish
teacher.
I
switched
majors
halfway
through
and
and
elected
to
major
in
political
science,
because
I
fell
in
love
with
government,
but
I
I
went
to
pitt
to
be
a
teacher.
My
my
spanish
teacher
in
high
school
went
to
pitt.
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B
Yeah
when
I
worked
for,
I
spent
six
years
on
the
staff
of
congressman
altmeier
and
when
he
left
office
I
started
working
at.
I
was
living
and
working
in
washington
dc
at
that
point,
and
I
was
hired
at
the
committee
for
a
responsible
federal
budget
which
is
primarily
focused
on
on
the
overall
big
picture
federal
budget,
but
then
looks
at
spending
and
revenue
and
analyzes
that
side
of
of
the
federal
government
and
just
became
very
interested
in
good
government
initiatives
and
transparency
measures.
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Yes,
I
love
it.
It's
I,
the
the
work
of
the
controller's
office,
the
work
of
controller
lamb.
I
I
just,
I
think
it
is
so
important
and
then
you
know
the
more
broad
public
workforce
within
the
city
within
the
county,
state,
federal
federal
workforce.
I
mean
people
every
day
commit
themselves
to
the
greater
good,
and
I
I
think
it's
inspiring
work.
It's
good
work,
it's
you
know
it's
something
that
you
can
look
back
on
it.
When
you
look
at
your
career
and
think
and
be
proud
of
so
yeah.
I
would.
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I
would
recommend-
and
I
this
you
know
as
I
my
mom's,
like
I
said
as
a
teacher
and
as
I
meet
her
students-
or
you
know
other
kids
who
are
in
their
early
college
years
or
looking
for
looking
for
careers
and
what
they
want
to
do.
Next,
it's
become.
The
first
thing
I
say
is
look
for
an
opportunity
to
serve
the
public
and
city
government
is
a
great
place
to
do
that.
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Sure
so
an
application
is
basically
a
software
more
or
less
or
a
program
that
the
city
offers
and
an
example
would
be
microsoft,
so
microsoft
office
they
have
a
application
called
power
bi,
which
is
basically
process,
automation.
So
taking
you
know
a
pen
and
paper
process
and
digitizing
it
and
allowing
there
to
be
some
oversight
on
the
status
of
it
and
things
like
that.
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C
Yeah,
I'm
interested
to
see
where
this
is
taking
me
so
far
so
good.
I
do.
I
still
am
very
passionate
about
the
environment
and
looking
at
our
city
systems,
I've
worked
on
a
couple
of
projects
within
imp
that
have
that
kind
of
application,
with
city
planning
and
city
parks.
So
those
are
exciting
projects
because
I
do
think
the
technical
aspect
of
it
really
can
make
a
big
difference
in
the
way
that
we're
able
to
bring
people
together
as
a
community.