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On this episode of CityTalk, John interviews Blake Plavchak from Pittsburgh City Council District 4 Office and Drew Sansone from 311.
A
Welcome
to
another
zoom
edition
of
city
talk,
needless
to
say,
we're
all
broadcasting
remotely
from
our
individual
cubbyholes
because
of
the
covet
19
crisis.
I
say
needless
to
say,
and
yet
I
say
it
anyway
say
hello
to
our
guest.
Today,
the
chief
of
staff
or
councilman
anthony
coghill,
blake,
flapjack
blake.
Welcome
to
the
program,
hi
john
thanks
for
having
me.
B
I
do
I
have
a
cat
and
her
name
is
pirate
and
you
know
that's
her
favorite
spot
in
the
whole
house.
B
Well,
it's
just
the
coincidence
when
she
was
a
kitten
one,
eyewitness
open
and
so
pirates
seemed
like
a
fitting
name
and
it
has
since
opened
and
her
eyes
were
fine.
A
A
All
right
so
tell
us
about
yourself:
where
are
you
from
where
you
grew
up
and
how
you
came
to
become
the
chief
of
staff
for
councilman
coghill.
B
Well,
I'm
born
and
raised
in
brookline,
and
I
still
live
here
so
I've
been
in
in
brookline
for
my
entire
life
and
went
to
brashear
high
school.
Then
once
I
graduated
brashear,
I
went
to
decayne
and
I
did
a
lot
of
coursework
at
duquesne,
where
I
I
studied
rhetoric
and
in
my
time
there
I
ran
for
the
democratic
committee
for
allegheny
county
got
a
little.
A
I
know
all
we
political
junkies
know
what
that
is,
but
go
ahead
and
tell
people
who
aren't
don't
know
much
about
politics.
What
the
allegheny
county
committee
is.
B
So
it's
the
formal
organization
for
the
democratic
party
in
the
region
and
our
responsibilities
include
helping
neighbors
understand
how
to
vote
when
to
vote
where
to
vote
and
then
who
the
endorsed
candidates
are,
who
the
the
candidates
that
that
sought
endorsement
are
or
were,
and
to
to
work.
The
polls
on
election
day,
you
know,
pass
up
slate
cards
and
and
basically
support
the
democratic
candidates
during
the
elections
and
started
doing
that
for
a
while
came
to
know
anthony
a
couple.
B
Well,
it
depends,
I
think,
that's
up
to
each
council
person
and
kind
of
what
they
look
for
in
a
chief
of
staff.
I
know
with
anthony
it
was
important
that
he
has
someone
who
can
kind
of
advise
him
on
policy
and
help
organize
and
structure
his
his
calendar
and
his
schedule
for
him
work
closely
with
his
office
staff
and
someone
who's
involved
in
the
community.
B
So
with
councilman
coghill,
it's
very
important
that
we
support
our
community
groups,
our
community
members,
and
then
we
really
have
a
sense
of
who
the
people
are
and
what
it
is
that
they
need
in
the
district
I
mean
being
from
brookline,
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
at
least
I
hope
I
am
all
of
our
our
residents
and
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
the
issues
that
we
that
we
should
be
addressing
and
the
other
members
of
our
staff
are,
you
know,
live
in
carrick
or
you
know,
born
and
raised
and
beat
you.
A
Oh
yeah,
when
we
spoke
before
about
doing
this
interview,
I
mentioned
that,
and
I
know
it's
a
city-wide
problem,
but
litter
seems
to
be
a
problem
that
never
goes
away
in
pittsburgh.
Maybe
nowhere
else
in
the
country
either
for
all
I
know
I
don't
know
what
that
may
not
be
the
biggest
problem
on
the
agenda.
But
what,
if
anything,
can
we
do
about
that.
B
Yeah
well,
yeah.
I
think
one
thing
that
we've
been
seeing
across
the
city
during
the
the
sort
of
pandemic
has
been
a
little
bit
more
trash
everywhere.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
community
groups
have
had
to
pull
back
on
some
of
their
events,
so
a
lot
of
beautification
teams
have
had
to
kind
of
postpone
or
rethink
how
they
do
community
cleanups.
B
Thankfully,
in
a
few
weeks
we
have
the
garbage
olympics
coming
up
and
across
the
city
and
neighborhoods
across
the
city
are
encouraged
to
register
and
try
to
compete
with
other
neighborhoods
to
see
who
can
collect
the
most
garbage
and
debris,
and
I
know
the
the
councilman
is
going
to
be
volunteering
and
helping
out
in
carrick
I'll,
be
I'll,
be
helping
out
it
here
in
brookline
and
another
one
of
our
staff.
B
Members
is
going
to
be
working
and
beats
you
and
we're
going
to
try
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
an
inter-office
competition
to
see.
You
know
which
community
can
can
pick
up
the
most
garbage,
but
we
always
encourage
people
to
go
out
and
try
to
pick
up
litter
when
they
see
it
and
always
throw
garbage.
In
our
city,
trash
cans
when
they're,
when
they're
near.
B
Yeah,
so
department
of
public
works
will
pick
up
all
the
garbage,
so
every
community
will
designate
a
pickup
spot
and
they'll
report
back
how
much
they
get
department
of
public
works
will
collect
all
the
the
garbage
and
then
give
us
a
tally
and-
and
I
think
in
this
case
it
might
help.
If
you
know
your
chair
of
public
works
committee,
but.
B
Yeah
she's
she's
tough,
not
to
crack.
B
So
I
I
studied
rhetoric
at
duquesne
and
rhetoric
can
be
understood
just
as
communication
argument
persuasion
it's
at
duquesne.
They
take
a
very
philosophical
approach
to
it
and
we
ground
our
kind
of
understanding
of
of
that
in
a
philosophy
of
communication,
and
it's
it's
something
I
honestly
can
talk
about
for
a
long
time,
but
it
it
it
can
easily.
B
I
can
very
easily
get
sidetracked,
but
the
emphasis
is
essentially
on
how
we
communicate
why
we
communicate
and
the
the
ways
that
we
can
do
so
honestly
and
with
respect
to
all
parties
involved
in
in
communication.
B
Hope,
I
think
so
right
you
know,
knock
on
wood,
it's
so
far,
so
good
but
yeah.
It's
definitely
something
that
I
I
need
to
rely
on
like
that
that
training
and
education
sort
of
every
day,
even
if
it's
just
something
as
simple
as
how
we
put
together
a
facebook,
post
or
announcement,
we
need
to
think
about
all
of
the
audiences
that
we
might
be
reaching
and
how
we
can
can
deliver
that,
so
that
the
message
is
clear
to
all
the
audiences
we've
lost
pirate
yeah
and
I
think
it's
midday
snack.
B
Yes,
so
I
play
miniature
war
games
and,
to
sum
that
up
it's
you
basically
get
little
tiny
plastic
or
metal.
You
know
figurines
and.
C
D
B
Out
a
big
table
and-
and
you
put
some
terrain
down
miniature
houses,
fences,
fields,
dungeons
and,
and
you
you
measure,
and
you
move
people
and
it's
it's
you,
you
roll
dice
and
you
try
to
to
defeat
and
and
and
conquer
another
team.
My
my
specific
interest
is
in
world
war
ii,
sort
of
eric
war
games.
B
So
I
have,
I
have
an
american
army
with
different
armor
and
transports,
and
I
have
a
german
army
with
some
different
armor
and
transports
and
they're
both
generally
modeled
towards
like
1942
to
1944,
and
I
try
to
to
keep
the
era
around
normandy
and
d-day
just
because
it's
easier
to
to
make
it
historic,
because
I
ca
no
true
miniature
war.
Gamer
doesn't
like
to
make
things
historically
accurate.
So
I
mean
I'll,
try
to
replicate
certain
battles
and
and
and
represent
what
kind
of
units
were
in
that
engagement.
So.
B
Yes,
absolutely
and
if
you're
not
making
sound
effects,
you're
not
doing
it
right,
but
they
there
are
some
really
cool
things
you
can
do
like
you
can
get
cotton
balls
and
put
them
on
top
of
the
tea
light.
Like
one
of
those
flickering
tea
lights.
Can
you
paint
the
cotton
ball
to
look
like
smoke
and
if
you
blow
up
a
vehicle
you
just
you
put
the
tea
light
there
and,
and
it
looks
like
it's
smoking
and
smoldering.
B
B
I
have
a
roommate
who
I
play
with
otherwise
it
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
this,
but
you
play
with
other
people
and
I've
gone
to
conventions,
big
gatherings
of
people
where
it's
large
games
of
you
know
six
or
twelve
people
on
the
side
and
it's
multiple
12-foot
tables.
And
it's
really,
you
know
an
event.
B
Always
actually
in
these
games,
it's
more
fun
to
be
the
bad
guys,
because
there's
a
lot
of
the
play
acting
that
goes
on
and
and
if
you're,
not
if
you're
playing
as
a
germans
and
you're
not
doing
an
accent,
then
you're
not
doing
it.
B
B
I've
been
reading
a
bit
and
you
know
just
a
lot
of
little
ways
that
I
try
to
distract
myself
and
get
kind
of
pull
myself
out
of
the
monotony
over
the
summer.
I
I've
been
going
to
schenley
park
to
throw
frisbee
golf.
I'm
a
big
advocate
and
fan
of
frisbee
golf.
I
got
into
it
in
high
school
because
of
a
city
school
teacher
who
is
a
was
a
professional
frisbee
golfer,
and
I.
B
A
Holy
cow,
so
what
kind
of
legislation
have
you
been
working
on
during
the
last
short
period
of
time,
as
they
say.
B
Well,
so
september
is
national
recovery
month
and
the
councilman
has
been
working
on
trying
to
advocate
for
some
more
awareness
around
issues
related
to
substance
use
disorder.
So
one
thing
that
we
were
working
on
earlier
was
a
will
of
counsel
to
promote
person-first
language,
it's
language
that
helps
to
humanize
individuals
that
suffer
with
a
substance
use
disorder
instead
of
stigmatizing
them.
One
of
the
things
that
we
find
that's
a
barrier
to
people
seeking
help
when
it
comes
to
their
substance.
B
Use
issues
is
the
stigmatization
that
they
experience
and
instead
of
referring
to
people
with
harmful
or
negative
language.
If
we
can
focus
on
trying
to
rephrase
and
focus
on
an
individual's
humanity,
it
makes
them
more
likely
and
willing
to
seek
out
help
when,
when
they're
ready
for
it
and
when
they
need
it,
and
it
helps
them
to
reduce
the
the
harmful
behaviors
that
that
they
do
engage
in.
B
But
we're
also
right
now
kind
of
thinking
about
and
considering
what
sort
of
reforms
are
are
appropriate
in
terms
of
policing
and
we're
working
with
the
department
of
public
safety.
To
try
to
consider
what
we
can
do
to
help
make
sure
that
our
public
safety
is
more
responsive
to
the
public.
A
Yeah
I
was
talking
with
councilman
krauss
earlier
today
about
just
the
effort
to
restructure
the
police
department
as
opposed
to
defund
the
police.
That's
probably
a
lot
more
complicated
than
it
sounds,
or
maybe
it
isn't,
but
it's
certainly,
I
would
think.
B
A
B
I
played
fall
baseball
in
carrick
every
year
and
I'm
incredibly
happy
to
to
have
an
opportunity
to
help
the
people
that
I
grew
up
in
grew
up
with
and
around,
and
if
the
opportunity
arises
that
I
can
continue
to
help
people.
Of
course
I
want
to
do
that.
So
I'm
just
going
to
see
where
it
takes
me
where
life
takes
me
and
I've
trusted
it
so
far,
and
I've
done
all
right
so.
A
Awesome
blake
plab
check
really
nice
talking
to
you
good
to
get
to
know
some
about
you
and
good
luck
in
the
next.
You
know
the
allies
versus
the
evil
dark
forces.
Thank
you.
So
much
city
talk
we'll
continue
in
a
moment.
C
A
Welcome
back
to
city
talk
one
of
the
more
interesting
jobs
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
At
least,
I
think,
is
to
be
a
3-1-1
operator.
These
are
the
people
who
take
all
the
comments,
questions
and
complaints
about
non-emergency
items
as
part
of
the
department
of
innovation
and
performance
and
one
of
the
operators
drew
sansone
joins
us
right
now.
Drew
welcome
to
the
program.
A
Good
to
be
so,
are
we
talking
to
you
from
your
apartment
or
your
secret,
lair
or.
A
Awesome
and
it
sounds
like
everybody's
minding
their
p's
and
q's
about
being
safe,
so
everybody's,
healthy.
A
D
Correct,
I
am
actually
originally
from
miami
florida,
and
I
moved
here
because
of
an
internship
that
I
had
with
the
sustainability
and
resilience
department
of
innovation
and
performance,
and
then
after
I
ended
that
internship,
we
basically
went
right
into
covid.
So
I
was
very
fortunate
to
have
this
job
in
the
meantime,.
D
A
A
D
I
think
cranky
is
a
tough
word
to
give
the
constituents
specifically
just
because
that
I
think
everyone's
kind
of
in
an
unsettled
time
as
there's
people
that
need
to
eat,
there's
people
that
need
a
place
to
live
and
to
say
that
you
know
they're
cranky
is
less
than
harsh.
I
think
that
these
people
are
scared
for
their
own
well-being.
A
That
is
accurate,
very
diplomatic
and
it's
why
you're
on
the
3-1-1
and
they
won't.
Let
me
near
it.
Congratulations,
but
you're
also
getting
calls
about
people
who
might
be
on
one
side
or
the
other
like
we
like
the
protesters.
We
don't
like
the
protesters.
We
like
the
police,
we
don't
like
the
police
and
that's
sort
of
a
different
kind
of
3-1-1
call.
D
D
They
can
be
lengthy.
We
just
write
verbatim
whatever
the
caller
says
and
send
that
to
the
mayor's
office.
A
D
I
will
tell
you,
is,
I
think
starbucks
was
a
much
more
tough
job
on
dealing
with
customers
who
were
very
angry.
I
worked
at
starbucks
in
college.
D
I
very
much
enjoy
helping
people
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
want
to
work
myself
in
sustainability
and
resilience.
I
very
much
have
a
collectivism
approach
to
society
and
I
think
that
helping
people
help
people
is
a
good
way
to
live.
A
Well,
you
were
born
to
work
in
government
and
I
mean
that
as
a
compliment
tell
us
tell
people
who
don't
know
what
it
is.
What's:
sustainability
and
resilience,
I
mean
they
might
know
what
the
words
mean,
but
what
does
it
mean
in
the
context
of
what
you're
saying.
D
So
the
environment
is
dying
and
sustainability
is
sustaining
the
resources
that
we
have
specifically
left
on
earth,
whether
they're
renewable,
like
solar,
wind,
hydroponic
and
then
resilience
is
how
cities
are
currently
planning
and
adapting
to
any
kind
of
catastrophic
events
that
may
happen
within
the
city's
area,
so
whether
that
be
like
in
california
with
wildfires
the
plans
that
they
have
in
place.
Those
are
resilience
plans
and
then,
when
you
look
at
solar
farms,
those
are
sustainability
plans.
D
Yes,
I
did
my
own
independent,
funded
research
in
college,
using
solar
panel
research.
A
D
Yes,
actually
without
working
in
pittsburgh,
I
probably
would
have
never
looked
at
colleges
up
here,
but
the
university
of
pittsburgh
has
a
sustainable
engineering,
ms
degree,
that
I've
been
very
much
looking
into,
and
I
definitely
wouldn't
have
even
thought
about
this
school
without
working
here.
First.
A
All
right
so
other
than
being
trapped
by
cove.
It
might
end
up
being
a
lucky
break
and
we'll
see
how
things
work
out.
Yeah,
who
knows,
and
but
you
do
have
a
degree
from
a
school
in
florida
right.
A
D
A
Good
for
you,
but
I
guess
none
of
us
knows
when
this,
in
other
words,
you're
not
going
to
apply
to
continue
your
education
until
things
let
up
considerably
because
well,
a
lot
of
places
aren't
even
taking
applicants.
I
guess.
D
Go
ahead,
I
think
it's
it's
something
as
well,
that
I
know
a
lot
of
either
my
friends
still
in
school
are
working
through
their
masters
is
I
mean
they
are
still
having
in
person
classes
and
as
much
as
I
want
to
get
sick?
Well,
I
don't
so.
I
wouldn't
want
to
attend
a
university
currently,
and
I
know
that
universities
do
have
a
lot
of
health
plans
in
place
and
they
have
threshold
limits
on
whether
they
would
cancel
classes
after
they
hit
a
certain
amount
of
cases
that
there
are
plans,
but
it's
just
not
a
risk.