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Description
On this episode of CityTalk, John interviews Andrew Burroughs from the Department of Innovation & Performance and Kim Lucas from the Department of Mobility & Infrastructure.
A
B
So
my
official
title
is
inventory
support
intern
and
the
inventory
that
referred
to
in
the
title
is
the
also
important,
secure,
storage
and
basically,
the
secure
storage
on
within
the
Department
of
innovation
and
performance
contains
all
of
the
technological
equipment
that
city
employees
use
from.
You
know,
actual
laptops
to
Ethernet
cables
and
everything
in
between
so
just
kind
of
managing
the
intake
and
outtake
that's
kind
of
what
the
main
task.
The
role
are
so.
A
A
A
B
A
B
So
I
just
graduated
from
the
University
of
Pittsburgh
not
too
long
ago,
so
proud,
alum
and
I
came
out
here,
because
I
was
recruited
to
run
cross-country
and
track
and
field
for
the
University
of
Pittsburgh.
So
I
was
actually
on
the
varsity
cross
country
and
track
and
field
teams
for
my
freshman
sophomore
year.
So
that's
kind
of
the
main
reason
I
came
out
to
Pittsburgh.
Well.
A
And
you've,
actually
you
won't
be
with
us
that
much
longer
they'd
like
me
to
do
interviews
with
people
like
you,
so
that
people
know
that
there
is
an
internship
program
in
case
they
want
to
apply
or
they
know
someone
might
want
to
apply.
I
assume
your
experience
has
been
positive
and
you'd
recommend
it
definitely.
B
Yes,
very
positive,
I've
been
lucky
enough
to
have
been
working
with
the
city
for
almost
a
year,
exactly
and
I'll
be
working
here
until
almost
through
the
end
of
June.
Oh
I
consider
myself
really
lucky
to
have
had
a
solid
internship
experience
for
over
a
year
and
I
would
definitely
highly
recommend
it
to
any
college
student
looking
for
work
experience
because
I
think
it's
a
really
unique
opportunity
that
you
can't
find
anywhere
else.
What.
B
Me
in
terms
of
local
government,
it
was
a
little
bit
different
because
growing
up,
my
father
was
involved
with
local
government.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
family
friends
that
were
involved
with
local
government.
But
that's
you
know,
towns
and
villages
of
5,000
and
10,000
people.
So
the
role
of
a
mayor
or
a
village
president
is
a
lot
different
than
what
the
mayor
of
Pittsburgh
does
or
what
a
lot
of
the
other
departments
here
do
so
you
know,
I,
didn't
know
too
much
about
local
government.
B
A
B
B
I
think
oh
yeah
and
I
think
I
know.
I
was
just
kind
of
looking
online
for
internships.
I
had
previously
applied
actually
for
an
internship
with
the
city
going
into
my
at
the
culmination
of
my
sophomore
year
so
going
into
the
summer
of
before
my
senior
year,
I
just
kind
of
knew
that
this
was
an
option
and
that
the
city
had
plenty
of
internships,
so
I
kind
of
just
went
for
it
that
way
and
I
think
as
well.
B
B
B
You
know,
there's
a
limited
thing
amount
of
things
that
we
can
do,
but
I'm
trying
to
just
have
as
much
fun
as
I
can,
and
it's
definitely
been
nice
to
catch
up
on
some
Netflix
and
other
streaming
service
shows
that
I
haven't
had
time
to
watch
so
I
mean
that's
one
positive,
but
obviously
that
yeah
I
wish
I
could
be
doing
more
than
that.
Do.
A
B
Given
my
background
as
a
runner
I've
been
trying
to
go
out
for
runs
as
much
as
I
can
so,
whether
that's
around
the
city
or
I,
also
kind
of
like
going
to
the
and
handle
trail
which
is
in
the
South
Hills.
So
those
are
kind
of
my
two
big
running
spots
that
I
kind
of
go
to
and
the
the
trail
and
the
South
Hills
is
really
nice,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
people
there.
A
B
I
mean
I
certainly
did
in
high
school
I.
Think
everybody
who
takes
a
sport
really
seriously
wanted
to
be
an
athlete
and
I'm
actually
in
a
unique
situation
where
I'm
half
Filipino
so
I
actually
had
dreams
of
representing
the
Philippines
in
the
Olympics,
because
it
would
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
make
the
Olympic
team
for
the
Philippines
and
they're
not
really
known
for
having
distance
runners
so
would
actually
been
really
cool
if
I
had
that
talent,
but
you
know
he
dreams
are
meant
to
always
happen.
So,
yes,.
A
B
I've
accepted
a
peer
of
service
position
with
an
AmeriCorps
program
called
City,
Year
and
City
Year
will
allow
me
to
be
a
teaching
assistant
in
an
inner-city
public
classroom
for
the
year,
so
basically
from
the
end
of
July
through
early
June
I'll
be
working
with
some
inner-city
public
school
kids,
helping
them
during
the
school
day
and
then
helping
them
after
the
school
day
too,
with
some
after-school
programs.
So
I'm
really
excited
for
that.
B
A
B
I
think
education
would
certainly
be
an
aspect
for
me
to
pursue
and
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
I
could
use
through
sports
or
through
government.
So
I
think
if
I
were
to
pursue
a
career
in
government,
I
actually
would
be
interested
in
pursuing
some
sort
of
educational
public
policy.
Then
that's
what
I
want
right
now,
but
who
knows
after
this
year
you
know
a
lot
of
things
could
change
for
me
and
I
am
definitely
gonna,
learn
a
lot
and
experience
different
things.
A
B
I
would
definitely
say
that
and
I
have
been
like
I
said:
I've
been
very
lucky
to
have
worked
here
and
I
think
not
only
as
its
I
think.
It
set
me
up
well
for
the
future,
but
I've
learned
from
a
lot
of
intelligent
people
and
I.
Think
I've
formed
some
meaningful
connections
with
a
lot
of
intelligent
people
as
well,
but.
A
B
A
B
I
do
have
you
know
like
most
college
students,
I'm
living
in
an
off-campus
house
and
actually
even
more
unique,
is
a
lot
of
people
have
gone
home
during
the
pandemic
situation,
but
actually
all
my
roommates
have
chosen
to
stay
here
for
various
reasons,
but
it's
nice
I
mean
we.
We
each
have
our
own
room,
so
we
each
have
our
own
space
and
none
of
us
are
really
leaving
the
house.
So
it's
kind
of
safe
in
that
regard.
A
B
Yes,
my
my
girlfriend's
father
works
for
a
company
called
back
Tronics
located
in
the
South
Hills
and
they
sell
a
very,
very
useful
disinfectant
that
is
very
efficient
in
you
know,
keeping
things
safe
and
keeping
everything
clean.
So
it's
actually
really
nice
to
have
that
connection,
because
I
feel
a
little
bit
safer
when
I
carry
that
stuff
around
and.
A
B
Not
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
thing
or
a
bad
thing,
but
I
have
learned
to
wash
my
hands
more
frequently
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
us
are
gonna,
be
washing
our
hands
more
frequently
after
this
and
I
personally
am
interested
interested
to
see
what
the
kind
of
handshake
idea
is.
If
people
are
gonna,
keep
shaking
hands
after
this
as
well
it'll
be
interesting
to
see.
That's.
B
B
A
B
Well,
first
of
all,
I'm
happy
to
be
a
part
of
history.
The
first
ever
zoom
edition
of
city
talked
I,
certainly
feel
esteemed
to
be
considered
and
considered
with
that.
But
no
I
mean
my
final
thoughts
interning
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
er,
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
career
move
for
a
lot
of
people.
If
you
you
know,
if
you're
a
college
student
out
there,
I
would
strongly
encourage
you
to
pursue
internships
with
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
I.
Think
most
apartments,
if
not
all
departments
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
offer
internship
experiences.
B
So
I
say
it's
it's
a
unique
opportunity
that
all
people
should
pursue
and
if
I
will
add
one
more
kicker
learning
being
a
senior
in
college
or
a
recently
graduated
senior
I've
learned
that
a
lot
of
internships
within
government
are
unpaid
and
a
lot
of
the
city.
Internships
are
paid.
So
it's
a
unique
opportunity
to
do
that
as
well.
B
A
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
That's
an
excellent
point.
There
are
a
lot
of
unpaid
internships,
so
you
are
lucky
when
you
land
a
payday
now.
Definitely,
as
you
are
andrew
burrows
thanks
so
much
for
joining
us
on
this
historic
edition
of
city,
talk
thanks
for
having
me
John
when
we
come
back.
You'll
meet
Kimberly
Lucas
from
the
department
known
as
Dobby
stay
with
us.
A
A
C
C
C
The
Department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
otherwise
known
as
domi,
is
one
of
the
newest,
if
not
the
newest
city
department,
at
about
three
years
old,
and
we
are
responsible
for
a
lot
of
what
you
see
outside
so
city
streets,
those
paving
that
repaving
job
those
potholes
helping
with
sidewalks
and
constructing
bridges
and
city
steps.
If
it
is
in
the
public
space
chances,
are
we're
working
on
it.
So.
A
C
C
Our
department
is
born
out
of
the
positions
that
used
to
be
held
with
the
Department
of
Public
Works
and
also
the
Department
of
City
Planning,
so
the
city
really
wanted
to
bring
together
those
functions
under
one
roof,
so
that
it'd
be
more
streamlined,
better
coordination
and
a
better
public
space.
As
a
result.
C
What
Washington
DC
is
really
fascinating.
Not
only
is
it
a
city
whose
population
has
doubled
in
recent
history
and
about
the
same
almost
the
same
footprint
that
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
has
we
have
a
robust
transit
network,
a
well-established
bike
share
program
and
a
lot
of
people
that
come
in
on
a
daily
basis.
C
So
I
was
excited
to
bring
a
lot
of
those
lessons
that
I
learned
from
a
city
that
was
kind
of
similar
to
Pittsburgh
a
couple
decades
ago
in
terms
of
financial
challenges
in
terms
of
population
decline
and
bring
some
of
those
successes
as
a
city
that
turned
itself
around
and
saw
the
population
comeback.
What.
A
C
C
We
won't
have
enough
space
for
all
those
people
to
move
around
in
their
cars
and
so
making
sure
that
there
are
other
ways
that
are
attractive
and
safe
and
affordable
like
walking
and
public
transit
and
writing
one
spike
or
you
know,
an
incline
which
is
public
transit.
Here.
That's
our
core
mission,
I!
Don't.
A
C
Well
recently,
we
had
seven
public
open
houses
to
display
and
get
public
feedback
on
our
bike
plus
master
plan.
It's
the
first
bike
master
plan
that
the
city
has
had
in
20
years.
The
last
one
was
in
1999
and
it
was
a
ten-year
plan,
so
we're
about
ten
years
overdue.
But
we
are
in
the
final
stages
of
this
plan.
C
It
proposes
120
miles
of
new
or
enhanced
bicycle
connection,
citywide
and
so
of
course,
a
lot
of
the
comments
and
all
of
the
public
engagement
I've
had
the
last
few
months
has
been
on
bikes
because
that's
been
one
of
our
biggest
and
most
exciting
projects
that
we've
been
able
to
bring
forward.
Bicycles
are
a
really
interesting
issue
in
a
lot
of
communities,
they're
kind
of
seen
as
the
cause
of
change
and
on
the
one
hand,
some
people
welcome
and
invite
that
change.
C
So
another
big
facet
of
our
job
is
to
take
in
public
feedback
and
also
make
sure
that
we're
engaging
a
wide
variety
of
opinions
and
individuals
so
that,
regardless
of
your
economic
status
or
other
their
demographic
information,
that
your
opinion
is
hurt.
Because
so
often
there's
you
know
a
few
people
that
are
really
loud.
But
they
might
not
be
speaking
for
everybody
in
their
community
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
just
listening
to
that.
One
loud
voice.
C
A
C
Am
from
the
state
of
Virginia,
so
not
too
far
from
the
District
of
Columbia
right
outside,
grew
up
in
Virginia
born
and
raised,
attended
the
University
of
Virginia
for
my
bachelor's
degree,
and
that's
actually
how
I
got
started
in
transportation.
Even
though
I
was
studying
psychology
and
art
history,
as
an
undergraduate
student
I
got
what
was
a
very
popular
student
job
at
the
time
and
I
became
a
bus
driver
so
that.
D
C
C
A
C
Really
value
the
operational
experience
that
I
have
the
fact
that
I've
seen
sort
of
the
mechanics
of
the
like
you
said
the
ground
floor
of
transportation
and
of
public
transportation.
I
believe
have
gave
me
a
really
solid
foundation,
because
so
often,
if
you
don't
have
a
diverse
perspective,
because
you
don't
have
a
diverse
set
of
experiences
like
that,
it's
harder
to
see
why
certain
things
might
end
up
the
way
they
are
to
make
certain
decisions.
So
I'm
really
grateful
that
I
had
that
time
to
really
literally
get
my
hands
dirty.
C
A
C
There's
a
couple
of
reasons:
I
ended
up
in
Pittsburgh.
One
of
them
is
that
my
husband
is
from
Pittsburgh,
and
so
he
was
born
and
raised
not
too
far
outside
of
the
city
and
anytime
I'd
ever
come
to
visit,
whether
it
be
for
work
or
whether
it
be
for
my
husband's
family
and
friends,
I've,
always
loved
the
city.
It's
a
big
city.
C
We've
got
beautiful
architecture,
huge
skyscrapers,
amazing
transit
and
ability,
but
it's
got
that
small-town
feel
there's
a
culture
here,
there's
there's
people
with
personality
that
believe
in
hard
work
and
believe
in
doing
right
by
their
neighbors
plus
or
minus
a
parking
chair
on
occasion.
So
when
the
when
I
saw
that
there
was
a
job
opportunity
and
that
it
was
an
opportunity
to
help
build
a
department
and
bring
some
of
those
lessons
learned
from
DC
and
to
make
my
mark
on
the
city
that
I
had
always
really
enjoyed
I
couldn't
say
no
so.
C
I've
been
very
impressed
with
city
staff
and
how
we've
been
able
to
pretty
seamlessly
transition
online
I've
been
so
grateful
for
my
staff
and
for
all
of
my
colleagues
that
have
been
doing
these
video
calls
and
have
really
making
it
work.
Personally,
I
love
only
having
to
dress
for
the
video
calls
from
the
waist
up.
You
know
and
wearing
stretch,
pants
or
sweatpants,
you
know
and
being
comfortable,
because
that's
just
who
doesn't
want
to
be
comfortable
right.
C
A
C
I
was
training
for
the
Pittsburgh
half
marathon
until
it's
old,
so
that's
actually
been
a
really
incredible
way
for
me
to
see
the
city
is
going
on.
Those
long
runs
and
running
from
North
Side,
where
I
reside
in
Manchester
up
to
Oakland
or
up
into
the
hills,
and
so
I
really
enjoyed
that
time
to
get
to
learn
the
city
better.
C
We
recognize
that
domi
and
at
the
city
level
that
in
especially
some
neighborhoods
where
the
sidewalks
are
missing
or
they're,
not
very
wide
that
it
might
be
hard
to
run
or
to
walk
or
to
bike
and
to
get
that
safe
exercise
at
a
social
distance
that
is
comfortable,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
ways
to
possibly
expand
that
space
for
folks
to
be
able
to
get
out
and
to
experience
their
city,
but
to
do
so
safely.
So
I
invite
the
residents
of
Pittsburgh
to
stay
tuned
for
developments
in
that
regard
is.
C
It
is
a
huge,
it
is
a
huge
undertaking,
and
Pittsburgh
is
interesting
in
that
sidewalks
are
the
maintenance
of
sidewalks,
are
the
responsibility
of
the
adjacent
property
owner
and
so
depending
on.
If
the
property
owner
is
present,
if
they
have
the
financial
resources,
the
actual
condition
of
sidewalks
vary
a
lot
from
property
to
property.
C
So
the
sort
of
thing
that
we
could
do
in
the
short
term
to
support
people
right
now
is
not
necessarily
constructing
or
improving
sidewalks,
but
it
might
be
rethinking
some
of
the
space
that
we
have,
that
aren't
sidewalks
in
other
cities,
they've
implemented
slow
streets
programs
where
they've
really
tried
to
reduce
the
number
of
cars
and
the
speed
of
those
cars
on
residential
streets,
so
that
people
can
recreative
like
in
open
streets
events.
So
we're
looking
at
these
examples
countrywide
internationally,
even
to
see
if
there
any
that,
might
help
support
the
residents
of
Pittsburgh
and.
C
During
ovid
nineteen
it,
you
know,
there's
been
a
huge
impact
on
public
transportation.
Ridership
is
substantially
down
on
Port
Authority
lines.
They've
had
to
reduce
service,
there
are
increased
costs
associated
with
sanitizing
their
vehicles.
A
lot
of
people
just
aren't
taking
trips.
You
know
we're
we're
not
even
we're
still
Code
Red
until
the
15th
of
May,
which
means
that
people
have
to
stay
home
unless
they're
deemed
essential
workers
in
a
very
limited
number
of
professional
sectors,
and
so
people
just
aren't
making
trips,
which
is
good
in
a
lot
of
ways.
C
It's
great
for
congestion,
it's
great
for
air
quality
and
emissions,
but
it's
not
good
for
these
services
that
are
built
on
being
able
to
provide
transportation
for
people
get
some
revenue
that
way,
and
so
I
know
that
trying
to
support
Port,
Authority
and
public
transit
moving
forward
is
a
very
big
challenge
for
the
city
and
something
that
we
want
part
of
the
reason
Pittsburgh
is
known
as
one
of
the
most
livable
cities
out.
There
is
because
people
can
get
around
pretty
easily
without
their
cars
when
you're
downtown.
C
You
know
there's
a
huge
percentage
of
people
that
are
taking
transit
to
get
to
work,
downtown
or
walking
when
they're
there,
and
that's
something
that
you
can't
say
about
every
city
in
the
United
States.
But
it
makes
it
a
really
vibrant
community,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
during
this
temporary
moment
of
additional
stress
and
additional
health
and
safety
concerns
that
we
don't
see
permanent
long-term
effects.
I
can't.
A
Wait
anyway,
right
I
can't
wait
until
this
program
is
a
rerun
many
months
from
now.
Hopefully
they
rerun
it
and
then
we
can
say
remember
back
in
May.
That
was
crazy
and
things
are
so
much
better.
Now,
if
that's
the
case,
hopefully,
hopefully
we'd
talked
a
little
bit
when
we
spoke
before
the
interview
about
the
Strip
District,
which
I
know
other
people
are
pay
more
attention
to
than
you
do.
A
C
We
have
been
undergoing
a
Strip
District
study.
There
have
been
a
number
of
public
meetings
with
merchants
and
with
the
general
public
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
the
concerns
of
that
community.
It's
maybe
my
favorite
part
of
the
city,
I
love
going
there,
I
love
the
diversity
of
the
shops
and
the
vibe
and
the
energy,
and
we
want
to
maintain
that
at
the
same
time,
like
you
said,
there's
a
lot
of
new
development
coming
online.
C
So
the
reason
that
the
city
has
invested
in
this
deep
dive
and
to
even
do
a
Strip
District
study
is
so
that
we
can
enable
and
allow
that
new
development
so
that
we
can
bring
more
people
into
the
city
grow
that
economic
base
bring
more
customers
for
those
shops,
but
also
do
it
in
a
way
that
will
be
detrimental
to
those
businesses
that
have
been
here
for
generations,
and
so
we
are
working
actively
with
the
community.
We
do
have
a
draft
strip
district
study.
C
A
C
Do
love
my
job
I,
you
know,
as
you
mentioned,
I
have
a
bachelor's
degree
in
psychology
in
art
history
and
when
I
graduated
from
college
with
those
degrees
I.
The
only
thing
I
knew
about
a
job
is
that
I
had
to
be
able
to
do
it
with
a
clean
conscience.
I
didn't
know
what
I
wanted
to
do
or
where
I
wanted
to
be.
C
And
learned
that,
through
the
provision
of
great
transit
and
through
great
amenities
in
the
public
space
that
I
could
make
people's
lives,
better
I
could
help
people
who
maybe
use
wheelchairs
and
they
couldn't
used
a
certain
bus
line
because
they
couldn't
get
to
their
bus
stop
before.
But
now
I
was
able
to
help
them
get
to
that
bus
line.