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On this episode of CityTalk, John interviews Kinsey Casey from Mayor Peduto's Office and R. Daniel Lavelle from Pittsburgh City Council District 6.
A
Welcome
to
another
city
talk
the
zoom
edition,
as
we
continue
to
broadcast
remotely
during
the
global
pandemic
that,
I
suspect
many
of
you
are
familiar
with,
say,
hello
to
kinsey
casey,
the
chief
operating
officer
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
working
out
of
the
mayor's
office.
Welcome
to
the
program
thanks.
A
B
B
A
And
then
guy
costa
decided
to
retire
and
you
became
the
new
guy
costume.
A
Just
long
story
short
right
yeah,
so
how
are
you
coping
with
everything
during
the
pandemic.
B
Well,
you
know
it
is.
It
is
a
strange
feeling.
I
am
fortunate
enough
to
be
able
to
work
from
home.
You
know
we
obviously
have
a
lot
of
essential
employees
that
are
out
in
the
field
every
single
day,
but
you
know
I
am
coping.
I
am
happy
to
be.
You
know
in
my
house
working
remotely
so.
A
B
Well,
obviously,
our
environmental
services,
your
trash,
still
gets
picked
up
and
now
that
everyone's
at
home,
there's
even
more
trash,
that's
being
picked
up,
because
you
know
there's
also
those
folks
who
are
cleaning
out
their
basements,
their
attics.
All
the
projects
they've
been
putting
out
for
a
long
time
now
that
people
are
at
home
plus.
B
Living
at
home,
so
that
certainly
necessitates
more
trash.
You
know
we
have
all
of
our
domey
inspectors.
All
public
works.
Crews
are
out,
the
you
know,
potholes
are
still
being
patched,
free
is
still
being
mowed.
All
of
those
services
are
still
happening,
there's
still
litter,
that's
being
collected
in
the
you
know,
central
business
districts
and
the
parks.
All
that
is
still
happening,
so
we
still
have
a
lot.
We
have
a
lot
of
employees
that
are
out
in
the
field
these
days.
B
Most
of
their
staff
is
out
in
the
field
these
days,
our
parks,
crews,
our
streets,
crews,
our
construction
crews,
all
those
projects
are
still
happening,
so
you
know
the
facilities
guys
are
still
out
there.
Plumbing
still
breaks,
so
you
know
they're
still
out
there.
Everyone
is
out
in
the
field
taking
all
the
precautions,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
essential
that
have
been
working
every
day.
A
Yeah
you
mentioned
people
are
even
throwing
out
more
trash
because
they've
got
more
time
to
hang
around
the
house
and
decide
what's
trash.
I
just
threw
away
an
ancient
vacuum
cleaner
the
other
day,
and
I
must
say
it
was
picked
up
with
great
efficiency
and
boom.
It
disappeared,
like
it
was.
Never
there
so
you're
doing
an
awful
awesome
job,
and
so
are
the
environmental
services
and
the
people
who
pick
up
the
trash
and
everybody
else.
B
A
B
I
knew
nothing
about
that
before,
but
yes,
I'm
learning
a
lot
about
it.
These
days.
A
So
how
is
the
having
to
work
at
home
complicated
your
job?
How
is
it
much
different
than
it
used
to
be.
B
Well,
I'd
much
rather
be
out
in
the
field.
You
know
seeing
what
folks
are
doing.
I
would
much
rather
be
working
with
people
in
meetings
and
actually
seeing
them
in
person
than
on
video.
So
it
certainly
is
more
complicated.
Technology
does
exist,
so
it
is
entirely
possible
to
work
from
home,
but
it
would
be
much
more
fun
and
pleasant
if
I
actually
got
to
see
people
in
person-
and
you
know-
got
to
shadow
some
crews
and
do
all
the
stuff
that
I
was
hoping
I
would
get
to
do
this
summer.
A
And
obviously,
as
the
chief
operating
officer
you're
in
charge
of
a
lot,
but
can
you
give
people
an
idea
like
if
you
had
to
give
a
paragraph
or
two
as
a
job
description
tell
us
you
know
for
the
uninitiated
of
what
your
duties
are
sure.
B
So
I
work
in
the
mayor's
office
and
I
work
with
the
department
of
public
works,
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
and
the
parks
and
rec
department.
So
I
work
with
all
of
those
folks
and
all
of
the
various
things
that
they
do
and
then
I
also
work
with
the
parking
authority
and
pittsburgh
water
and
super
authorities,
so
I'm
sort
of
the
liaison
to
them
and
help
manage
all
the
things
that
need
to
be
coordinated
with
the
city.
A
That
is
quite
a
handful
and
I
know,
parks
and
rec
has
has
had
to
shut
down
the
healthy
active
living
center.
Some
people
know
them
as
senior
centers
temporarily,
but
they're
still
distributing
food.
As
I
understand
it,.
B
That's
right,
and
so
the
the
healthy,
healthy,
active
living,
centers
and
the
recreation
centers
are
shut
down,
but
we
are
doing
food
distribution
from
them
and
as
we
move
into
fall,
you
know,
I
think
it
will
probably
be
even
more
intense,
given
that
students
are
probably
not
going
back
to
school
full-time,
so
we
will
be
distributing
even
even
more
meals
as
we
move
into
the
fall
in
in
all
likelihood,.
A
How
are
things
at
home?
Is
there
anyone
you're
ready
to
kill
or
are
you
you
know,
staying
sane?
How
are
things
that
you're
at
the
home.
B
Front
I
am
staying
insane.
I
am
very
fortunate
to
live
in
a
house
with
two
floors,
so
my
newest
co-worker,
my
husband
works
downstairs
and
I
work
upstairs
and
my
other
co-worker
my
dog
sleeps
through
most
of
the
day,
but
he
does
enjoy
joining
zoom
and
conference.
Calls
and
teams
calls
with
his
loud
marks,
occasionally
not
very
well
trained.
B
We've
tried
to
restart
most
projects,
so
you
know
if
it
comes
to
building
a
new
playground.
If
it
comes
to
new
construction
projects,
all
of
those
we've
you
know
started
to
move
through.
You
know.
The
things
that
are
really
on
hold,
unfortunately,
are
the
swimming
pools.
We
didn't
open
those
this
summer.
B
We
do
have
the
spray
parks
open,
but
the
swimming
pools
we
just
couldn't
reasonably
safely
open
and
then,
as
as
you
mentioned,
the
healthy
active
living
centers
and
their
recreation
centers
are
all
closed
this
summer
as
well
and
will
likely
remain
closed
through
the
fall
too.
So
those
are
the
things
that
are
sort
of
on
hold,
but
for
the
most
part
you
know
we
are
managing
through
the
pandemic
and
trying
to
you
know,
serve
the
residents
of
the
city
as
best
we
can,
including
taking
all
the
safety
precautions
to
keep
our
employees
safe.
A
And
what
does
all
that
involve
the
safety
precautions.
B
Well,
every
morning
they
get
to
do
health
checks.
So
there's
a
list
of
screening
questions
that
everyone
should
be
doing
every
morning
just
to
identify
if
they
have
any
symptoms.
Even
in
environmental
services,
we
actually
have
a
company,
that's
taking
everyone's
temperature,
so
that
we
can
keep
our
workers
safe
and
then
the
same
protocols
that
you've
heard
a
million
times
over.
B
You
know
keeping
six
feet
social
distance
wearing
your
masks,
which
I
know
when
it's
90
degrees
outside,
is
not
very
pleasant,
but
you
know
they
have
really
shown
that
masks
do
help.
So
keeping
your
mask
on
keeping
your
social
distance,
washing
your
hands
so
we're
doing
all
of
those
things.
And
then
you
know
if
we
do
get
a
positive
case,
which,
unfortunately,
we
have
had
a
few
making
sure
that
anyone
that
has
been
exposed
is
quarantined
so
that
we
don't
see
an
outbreak.
B
A
B
Yeah,
although
I
don't
watch
that
much
tv,
I
have
been
reading
more
at
least
crying.
It
distracts
me
from
the
news
and
I've
been
trying
to
encourage
everyone
else
to
practice
some
work-life
balance,
because,
as
you
know,
when
you
work
from
home,
work
is
just
in
the
other
room.
So
it's
very
easy
to
keep
going
all
day
all
night,
so
you
know
trying
to
practice
a
little
work-life
balance
and
trying
to
encourage
others
to
do
the
same.
B
A
I'm
a
non-fiction
guy
myself
and
I
get
grief
a
lot
from
my
people
who
are
like
you're
limiting
yourself
and
you
should
be
reading
all
the
greats
and
who
write
fiction.
But
I
just
got
done
reading
woody
allen's
book,
which
I
would
recommend.
Unless
you
hate
woody
allen,
then
I
would
not
recommend
it.
But
then.
B
A
B
A
Is
there
anything
you
can't
wait
to
get
back
to
like
boy
if
and
when
this
thing
ends
or
settles
down?
The
first
thing
I'm
going
to
do
is.
B
Oh
I,
the
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
go
out
and
shadow
the
crews.
I
you
know
I
was
dying
to
go
out
with
a
paving
crew.
This
summer
I
wanted
to
go
with
the
parks
cruise.
B
A
A
Oh
well,
and
were
there
far
too
many
people
who
put
their
recycling
into
little
blue
bags,
thinking
that
they
want
those,
but
they
don't
really
like
the
little
blue
bags.
Do
you
know.
B
A
A
No,
I
understand
well,
did
you
find
a
lot
of
scoff
laws
in
your
search
or
were
most
people
complying
fairly?
Well,
when
you
were
riding
along
the
side
of
the
truck.
B
A
B
A
A
All
right:
well,
that's
nice
that
the
first
thing
you're
going
to
do
even
when
you're
able
to
is
personally
thank
everybody.
But
are
you
going
to
go
to
like
aruba
or
france
or
you.
B
Know
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
if,
once
this
is
over
once
you
know,
there's
a
vaccine
or
once
we're
all
allowed
to
go
back
to
whatever
the
new
normal
is,
there's
a
lot
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
done
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
it.
But
I
don't
think
it's
coming
any
time
near
near
future.
A
You
seem
like
you're
still
enjoying
your
job
and
that
you're
into
you
know
you're
into
it.
Despite
the
circumstances.
B
Oh
absolutely,
I
learn
new
things
every
day.
I
wish
that
you
know,
instead
of
seeing
lists
of
our
you
know,
assets
and
parks
that
I
was
actually
getting
to
see
them
in
person,
but
you
know
I
I'm
still
learning
a
lot
and
very
much
enjoying
the
job.
A
B
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
when
we
come
back
we'll
talk
to
councilman
lavelle
stay
with
us.
A
A
Welcome
back
to
city
talk,
say
hello
to
city
councilman,
dan
lavelle,
councilman.
Welcome
to
the
program.
A
A
All
right,
well
we'll
save
that
for
another
time.
So
how
are
you
holding
up
during
the
global
pandemic.
C
I'm
holding
up
well
the
family's
doing
well,
for
the
most
part,
all
are
well
our
biggest
challenge.
Right
now
is
our
children.
We
have
two
young
children
and
getting
ready
to
get
them
situated
for
online
school.
For
the
next
year
is
probably
the
most
challenging
thing
we're
dealing
with
right
now.
A
Yeah
were
you
among
those
who
just
found
out
recently
that
you'll
be
that'll,
be
remotely
for
at
least
I
think
nine
weeks,
something
like
that.
C
Yeah
we
were
debating
whether
or
not
we
were
going
to
send
them
back
regardless.
Part
of
our
concern
was
even
if
they
were
able
to
go
back
at
some
point.
It
was
going
to
get
shut
down,
and
so
we
were
leaning
to
go
online
from
the
very
beginning,
but
now
pps
made
it
official
that
at
a
minimum
for
the
first
nine
weeks,
it'll
be
online,
but
I
don't
see
how
you
start
nine
weeks
and
then
open
back
up
when
it's
colder
and
flu
season
is
coming
around.
A
How
about
that
so
do
you
have
to
play
you
and
your
wife
also
have
to
play
school
teacher
sometimes,
or
are
they
able
to
do
everything
online.
C
No,
we
absolutely
have
to
step
in
and
to
play
school
teacher.
I
have
no
faith
that,
if
left
to
their
own
devices,
that
they
would
sit
in
front
of
a
computer
screen
for
the
entire
time,
so
we're
trying
to
work
it
out.
We're
also
in
conversation
with
a
couple
other
families
about
creating
a
pod
where
maybe
six
to
eight
children
circulate
between
three
or
four
homes
throughout
the
week,
and
each
parent
then
takes
time
to
dedicate
to
ensure
that
the
kids
are
actually
online
getting
their
work
done
and
everything
else.
C
My
wife
is
really
really
leaning
towards
it.
There
was
a
meeting
last
night
actually
of
a
couple
parents
who
all
came
together
to
start
talking
about
logistics.
One
of
the
challenges
is,
you
know
how
do
we
all
ensure
that
we're
all
playing
by
the
same
rules
so
that
the
children
are
safe?
The
parents
are
safe,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
logistically
what
it
would
look
like.
Do
people
have
areas
outside
their
homes
where
they
could
set
up
tables
for
sort
of
the
virtual
classroom.
C
A
Yeah,
I
guess
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
improvising
going
on
in
all
areas
of
life
because
of
the
situation
we're
all
in
for
those
who
don't
live
in
your
district
are
unfamiliar
with
it.
Tell
us
what
your
district
encompasses.
C
C
A
Well,
I
live
on
perrysville
avenue
and
in
the
interest
of
full
disclosure,
you
are
my
councilman
so
and
you're
doing
a
fine
job.
Thank
you.
So
what
are
the
challenges
that
have
been
unique
to
the
pandemic
stuff
that
you
maybe
had
to
put
on
hold
or
haven't
been
able
to
go
as
far
as
you
wanted
to
because
of
limitations?
C
Had
to
put
certain
projects
on
hold
throughout
the
district,
it's
actually
been
interesting.
How
we've
been
trying
to
work
through
a
lot
of
the
projects
you
may
know
in
fine
view,
we
recently
opened
up
a
new
playground
that
we
had
refurbished
fine
view
area
and
that
work
was
able
to
continue.
C
But
as
we
look
at
new
capital
projects,
a
lot
of
those
will
probably
have
to
be
put
on
hold
in
part
because
we're
looking
at
about
a
hundred
million
dollar
shortfall
due
to
lack
of
tax
revenue,
and
so,
as
a
city,
you
know
we're
trying
to
commit
to
finishing
all
the
projects
we
started,
but
new
projects
are
probably
going
to
be
hard
to
come
by
right
now.
A
Yeah,
I
can
imagine,
are
you
able
to
get
out
much?
Are
you
pretty
much
homebound
most
of
the
time
for
the.
C
Most
part
I'm
homebound.
However,
we
have
made
ways
to
get
out.
So
one
of
our
projects,
while
being
home
was
the
kids
are
going
to
learn
how
to
ride
bikes,
and
so
we
did
it
took
about
two
weeks
actually
to
get
them
comfortable
and
then
about
a
day
to
get
them
off
the
training
wheels.
C
A
C
Sure
I
do,
I
believe
it
is
historic
and
both
critical,
so
black
pittsburgh
matters
and
within
the
black
pittsburgh
matters
legislation.
It
speaks
to
a
number
of
areas,
so
black
communities
matter
in
terms
of
rebuilding
and
investing
in
those
communities,
black
health
matters,
black
sustainability
and
black
wealth
matters.
We
need
to
invest
in
more
job
opportunities,
more
entrepreneurship
opportunities,
but
it's
really
looking
at
everything
that's
occurring
nationally
and
saying:
hey.
Look,
we've
already
known
the
disparities
that
unfortunately
exist
within
our
city.
C
Yeah
and
I
believe
it
will,
on
the
other
piece
of
legislation
we
passed
prior
to
the
black
pittsburgh
matters,
legislation
was
creating
a
commission
on
racial
equity
and
so
we're
in
the
process
of
now
of
beginning
to
put
that
commission
together
that
passed
as
well
and
so
that'll
really
be
where
the
work
gets
done
to
ensure
that
these
pieces
of
legislation
happen.
A
And
you're
also
a
member
of
the
urban
redevelopment
authority.
Yes,
sir,
I
am
for
those
who
don't
know
what
that
is
tell
us
what
that
is
what
your
role
is
on,
that
board.
C
So
I
sit
on
the
board
and
essentially
the
urban
development
authority
is
really
the
development
agency,
the
development
arm
for
the
city.
Historically,
the
ura
was
involved
in
large
developments,
both
good
and
bad,
but
now
we've
taken
a
focus
on
really
trying
to
do
neighborhood
redevelopment.
So
looking
at
neighborhood
business
districts
housing,
we
really
want
to
move
away
from
sort
of
let's
invest
in
skyscrapers,
but
let's
really
invest
in
core
neighborhoods
and
really
begin
building
them
out
and
we're
also
doing
so
with
an
equitable
lens.
A
A
So
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
the
daniel
lavelle
story.
Where
are
you
from
originally
boywing
school?
How
you
ended
up
in
government.
C
Sure
so
I
was
born
and
raised
here
in
pittsburgh.
Graduated
from
shimly
high
school
went
on
to
kent
state
university
in
kent,
ohio
graduated
from
kent
and
actually
was
working
in
ohio
for
about
a
year
before
I
was
going
to
transition
and
actually
go
to
florida
state
for
graduate
work.
C
However,
there
was
a
gentleman
named
state
representative,
well
currently
state
representative
jake
wheatley,
but
at
the
time
he
was
working
for
a
former
city,
councilman
saludin
and
while
I
was
still
living
in
ohio,
jake
called
and
said,
hey,
you
still
have
a
general
interest
in
government.
I
met
jake
on
one
of
my
summer
breaks
and
we
talked-
and
I
said,
yeah,
I'm
generally
interested.
C
He
said
well,
why
don't
you
come
back
and
interview
for
my
position,
I'm
getting
ready
to
leave,
and
so
I
did
and
I
came
back
and
saw
it
then
offered
me
the
position
and
after
accepting
it,
I
then
drove
past
my
parents
to
let
them
know.
I
was
moving
back
home.
C
It
was
when
I
walked
into
their
office.
They
were
one
just
shocked
to
see
me
like
why
what
are
you
doing
here
and
then
I
shared
the
news
with
them,
which
they
found
really
really
interesting.
C
Not
really
I
did,
I
was
looking
forward
to
the
florida
weather
right
and
at
the
time
you
know
when
I
left
I
was
one
of
the
individuals
that
I
probably
never
moved
back
to
pittsburgh.
But
I'm
back
and
I
raised
my
family
and
I'm
glad
I
did.
C
A
legislative
aide,
then,
eventually
after
working
for
him,
went
to
work
for
organization
out
of
dc
americans
for
democratic
action.
I
was
their
western
pennsylvania,
political
field
organizer
and
then,
after
working
for
them
for
a
while,
I
then
actually
went
to
work
for
state
representative,
jay,
wheatley
and
then
after
working
for
representative
whitley
for
a
number
of
years,
ultimately
decided
to
run
for
office
myself.
A
And
that
was
a
first
time.
Experience
obviously
was
how
weird
was
that
just
becoming
a
public
figure,
a
political
figure.
C
It
was
a
transition
I
had
I
enjoyed
working
behind
the
scenes
and
said
that's
where
I
wanted
to
be,
but
it
was
really
my
grandfather
who
ultimately
inspired
me
to
run.
I
was
sitting
in
his
living
room
sort
of
giving
a
long
diet
tribe
about
the
state
of
affairs
and
what
was
wrong
and
what
needed
to
be
better,
and
he
essentially
said
well,
you
think
you
know
so
much
go.
Do
something
about
it,
and
so
I
said
okay,
I
will
and
decided
to
run
and
it
was
challenging.
C
But
you
know
my
family
was
supportive.
My
wife
went
door,
knocking
with
me,
we
won
by
it
was
222
votes.
I
won
by
my
first
election
wow
yeah.
A
And
even
door
knocking
I'm
sure
that
was
interesting.
It's
something
you!
I
assume
you
hadn't
done
before
and
suddenly
you're
in
the
middle
of
all
that.
C
Yeah,
so
door
knocking
is
actually
what
I
enjoy
the
most
about
campaigning.
I
actually
get
to
talk
to
people
direct.
Sometimes
people
have
misconceptions
that
I
get
to
clear
up
at
the
door.
Sometimes
people
are
upset.
I
get
to
hear
what
they're
upset
about.
Occasionally
I
get
thanked
for
my
work,
but
I
actually
enjoy
that
part.
The
most
the
debates.
I
don't
like
the
debates
because
we
just
say
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
but
actually
getting
out
being
able
to
talk
to
people
I
actually
enjoy
that.
A
C
A
C
To
the
best
of
our
abilities,
it
can
get
tense
at
times.
Occasionally,
both
me
and
my
wife
will
yell
at
the
kids
to
go
outside.
Often
kids
will
run
by
when
they
know
more
meetings
intentionally
just
to
be
on
the
screen
and
occasionally
they're
doing
whatever
they're
doing
and
making
an
awful
lot
of
noise,
and
so
it
makes
opportunities
like
this
hard,
but
by
and
large
we've
actually,
we've
done
pretty
well
through
it
all.
A
C
Really
I
I
am
catching
up
on
some
reading
that
I
like
to
do
I
like
to
read
so
I've
been
catching
up
on
that
I'm
gonna
I
subscribe
to
the
new
yorker
magazine,
and
so
I'm
probably
about
eight
months
behind,
but
I'm
actually
catching
up
on
a
lot
of
good
articles,
but
we're
also
trying
to
you
know
do
do
things
with
the
family,
so
the
kids
now
help
cook
more.
My
daughter
in
particular,
has
taken
the
liking
to
learning
how
to
cook.
C
A
C
Oh
wow
go
visit
family,
I
think
that's
been
the
most
challenging
part
in
all
of
this.
My
mother-in-law
actually
got
coveted
my
mother-in-law,
my
sister-in-law
and
my
father-in-law
all
had
it.
C
Yeah,
well,
they
fully
recovered.
Oh
good,
my
sister-in-law
father-in-law
actually
had
no
symptoms,
but
it
took
a
toll
on
my
mother-in-law.
It
took
her
a
while
to
recover,
but
getting
out
and
going
to
visit
family.
I
think
that's
probably
number
one
on
our
list.
A
So
two
of
them
had
no
symptoms,
but
did
they
test
just
because
they've
been
around
people
who
did
have
symptoms
and
then
yeah,
and
they
found
that
out
how
about
that
yeah?
That's
obviously
everybody's
made
this
point,
but
that's
one
of
the
strange
things
about
the
virus
that
some
people
have
no
symptoms
and
other
people
just
attacks,
attacks,
attacks.
C
Yeah,
it
is
one
of
the
strange
things
which
also
limits
one
of
the
things
you
mentioned
hobbies.
One
of
the
things
I
really
like
to
do
in
my
own
free
time
is
go
fishing,
and
so
I
have
an
uncle
that
I've
grown
up
fishing
with
and
he's
just
afraid
to
come
out,
even
fishing
with
us,
just
because
you
just
never
know
who
you're
going
to
run
into
contact
with
and
everything
else.
A
C
Yeah,
so
it's
a
challenge,
but
you
know
we're
working
on
our
way
through,
but
getting
some
good
fishing
in
going
to
visit
family
as
soon
as
we're
able
to
do
so
safely.
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
it.
A
Are
you,
are
you
a
good
fisherman
there?
Is
there
any
particular
kind
of
fish
you're
looking
for
or
is
it
just,
you
know,
put
a
worm
in
the
water
and
see
what
happens.
I.
C
Am
a
good
fisherman,
we
will
go,
we'll
go
bass,
fishing
sometimes
we'll
go
catfishing.
Sometimes
I
have
family
down
in
maryland.
So
we'll
go
down
to
the
chesapeake,
go
out
on
the
bay
and
do
some
fishing
down
there
as
well
for
the
most
part
I'll
catch
anything.
That's
able
to
be
caught.
A
All
right,
well,
councilman
lavell!
You
probably
got
something
more
important
to
do
than
continue
this
conversation,
but
I
can't
thank
you
enough
for
taking
the
time
during
this
pandemic
and
it's
good
to
see
that
you're
saying
and
that
no
one
in
your
family
has
killed
anybody
else
yet
and
you're
doing
well.
Considering
thank.
C
You
very
much-
and
I
do
have
to
just
remind
everyone-
we
are
still
in
a
pandemic
and
please
do
everything
you
can
to
social
distance,
wash
your
hands
and
stay
safe.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
hopefully
we'll
see
in
the
near
future
in
person.
I
look
forward
to
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
that
is
this
zoom
edition
of
city
talk.
We
will
see
you
guys
next.