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From YouTube: Equity Series: Equity & Community Engagement
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Department of City Planning officials from the Strategic Planning and communications teams discussed the importance of community engagement in planning, how public engagement informs plans, and how they manage engagement through innovation to promote equity.
A
A
Government,
though
folks
may
not
know
it
so
we'll
get
into
some
high-level
definitions
and
really
take
the
time
to
unpack
the
cool
work
that
these
interesting
people
do
so
without
further
ado,
we'll
jump
right
into
into
introduction.
So
director
dash
we'll
start
with
you.
If
you
could,
my
friends
your
name,
your
role
and
then
what
kind
of
perspective
you're
bringing
to
this
conversation,
why
are
you
excited
to
have
this
chat
today,
director
dash.
B
C
Hi,
my
name
is
sophie
robison,
I'm
a
neighborhood
planner
within
the
department
of
city
planning.
I've
been
with
the
city
about
three
years
now
and
I'm
really
passionate
about
and
getting
a
great
opportunity
to
work
on
a
lot
of
projects
related
to
equitable
and
purposeful
public
engagement
and
kind
of
applying
those
principles
to
land
use
projects.
C
E
My
major
projects
so
far
have
been
the
greater
hazelwood
neighborhood
plan,
which
was
completed
and
adopted
last
november,
which
I
will
discuss
a
little
later
and
then
of
course,
right
now,
I'm
just
working
on
updating
and
enhancing
the
greater
hill
district
master
plan
and
equity
work
within
our
department.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
yeah,
it's
a
very
exciting
time
to
have
this
conversation,
not
just
because
there's
a
global
pandemic
and
some
interesting
ongoing
projects
happening,
but
also
there's
been
some
new
tools.
Some
new
approaches
that
have
been
brought
to
bear
recently,
director
dash
I'd
like
to
start
with
you,
sir.
A
If
you
could
just
help
us
frame
this
conversation,
you
gave
a
really
good
overview
and
your
introduction
around
that
this
work
is
related
to
land
use,
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
just
explore
a
little
bit
more
for
folks
on
the
call
what
the
department
does
and
what
are.
Some
of
the
relevant
projects
that
are
taking
place
in
the
city
are
absolutely.
B
B
You
know
to
work
with
residents
and
listen
to
residents
to
develop
policy
to
develop
projects
like
some
of
the
ones
that
some
of
our
planners
will
talk
about
today,
as
well
as
the
review
of
of
of
development.
So
you
know
the
public
commission.
You
know
some
places
that
you'll
see
us
are
the
public
commissions,
like
our
planning,
commission,
our
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
our
contextual
design,
advisory
panel,
the
historic
review
commission,
the
city
county
task
force
on
disabilities?
B
You
know
more
of
the
policy
side
of
how
we
start
to
understand
what
the
city's
goals
are,
what
residence
goals
for
their
neighborhoods
are
and
how
we
can
translate
those
into
policy,
and
so
we
do
that
with
the
various
divisions
that
are
in
city
planning.
The
community
affairs
division
is
one
that
we
share
with
the
mayor's
office,
and
you
know
they're
they're
ones
that
are
you
know,
on
the
ground,
responsive
to
community
meetings
and
the
like.
B
B
In
that
second
phase
of
the
neighborhood
playing
program
in
oakland
and
the
hill
district,
which
I
know
that
stuff.
You
know
sophie
and
usa
had
spoken
of
already
and
really.
The
idea
of
the
neighborhood
planning
program
is
that,
as
development
is
coming
to
these
neighborhoods,
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
listened
to
residents
and
stakeholders
in
those
neighborhoods
and
created
a
vision
for
those
neighborhoods
that
then
development
is
coming
in
and
following,
and
so
you
know.
B
B
B
Nor
do
people
want
to
be
able
to
do
that
with
us
right
now
and
that's
okay,
but
we
we
developed
the
engage
platform
not
only
to
be
able
to
engage
with
people
during
this
period
of
time,
but
understanding
that
there
is
a
large
section
of
the
city
that
we're
not
engaging
in
face-to-face
public
meetings
and
that
want
to
be
engaged
and
want
to
be
able
to
provide
their
input,
and
we
want
to
be
able
to.
We
want
to
be
able
to
collect.
B
You
know
you
know
and
listen
to
as
many
pittsburghers
as
possible
while
we're
developing
these
plans,
and
so
we
see
the
engage
pgh
platform
being
something
that
we
will
continue
to
use.
You
know,
even
when
we
go
back
to
you,
know,
to
also
doing
in-person
and
face-to-face
meetings
to
be
able
to
be
more
transparent
and
engage
more
people
through
the
process.
A
A
This
is
not
to
suggest
that
I
wasn't
paying
attention,
but
I
was
just
very
curious
about
how
the
pieces
connect
here.
We've
had
a
couple
conversations,
as
you
mentioned,
about
the
resilience
team
sustainability
work.
We
also
had
a
conversation
with
the
housing
authority
and
the
ura.
Could
you
could
you
describe
like
how
you
work
with
these
other
facets
of
governmental
agencies
with
this
work
with
land
use
and
development?
And
things
like
this.
B
That
is
that
are
in
these
neighborhoods,
whether
it
is
the
housing
authority
and
development
that
they're
doing
whether
it
is
you
know,
our
department
of
public
works
and
improvements
that
they're
making
or
our
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
and
so
you
know
bring
you
know,
really
the
intent
of
these
planning
processes,
whether
these
be
our
neighborhood
plans,
whether
these
be
things
that
we're
doing
in
a
city-wide
scale
is
really
to
you,
know
to
understand.
Resident
input.
B
Have
residents
engage
with
us,
but
also
me,
you
know
marry
that
with
the
practitioners
that
are
doing
work
in
these
fields
beyond
us
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
have
a
collective
vision
so
that
you
know
so
that
the
city's
vision
for
a
neighborhood
or
for
itself
around
this
particular
particular
topic
like
housing
is
one
that
is
is
married
with.
You
know
these
city-wide
goals
through
things
like
the
climate
action
plan,
but
also
the
programs
and
policies
that
we
have
or
that
we
can
create.
A
Thank
you
so
much
sophie
I'd
like
to
turn
to
you
to
talk
about
the
public
engagement
guide
and
I'd
like
if
we
could
just
to
start
with
kind
of
a
definition
if
you
would
and
director
dash
has,
has
teed
this
up
nicely
but
say
that
josiah
was
now
googling
what
this
was
and
you
were
google
or
the
search
engine.
How
would
you
describe
what
this
idea
is
and
then
walk
us
through
what
it
looks
like.
C
Based
on
that
consultation,
the
extent
to
which
you
change
your
outcome,
based
on
that
consultation,
has
to
be
appropriate
to
the
project
and
something
that
we're
really
working
on
is
saying
that
more
isn't
always
better.
Quality
is
really
what
we're
going
for
we're
trying
to
do
a
lot
of
the
work
before
we
go
to
the
public
and
say
how
can
we
in
a
respectful
way,
acknowledge
the
expertise
of
the
public
and
give
them
a
path
to
influence
this
project?
C
And
that's
where
sometimes,
the
different
levels
of
engagement
on
that
spectrum
can
be
really
helpful.
So,
for
example,
most
of
our
neighborhood
plan
projects
are
at
the
collaborate
level,
which
is
just
about
one
step
down
from
empower
because
those
are
really
involved
projects,
but
maybe
a
streetscape
planning
project.
Where
you
have
you
know
smaller
budget
there's
clear
things
you
have
to
do.
C
Maybe
that's
more
a
consult
or
involved
level,
and
the
other
kind
of
last
thought
on
that
is
that
all
engagements
have
to
be
cumulative
on
the
spectrum,
and
I
think
this
is
really
important.
Is
that
if
you're
doing
a
consultation
where
you're
empowering
people,
you
still
have
to
inform
them,
and
you
can't
do
the
other,
and
so
you
it's
sort
of
this
constant
process,
that's
actually
a
lot
more
complicated
than
oftentimes.
C
We
give
engagement
time
for
and
that's
where
the
collaboration
between
myself
and
alex
who's,
our
communication
specialist
is
so
powerful
because
I'm
not
a
communications
expert
and
so
having
her
there
to
create
that
balance
and
create
a
product,
that's
really
sort
of
closes.
The
loop
on
communication
is
is
a
piece.
That's
often
missing.
A
C
C
Most
cities
in
america
have
a
comprehensive
plan.
We
have
a
version
of
one
and
are
looking
to
update
it
going
forward,
and
we
were
kind
of
grappling
with
this
idea
that
how
can
we
talk
to
people
about
these
huge
ideas?
You
know
where
do
you
want
to
see
change
in
pittsburgh?
That's
a
hugely
loaded
question.
C
D
C
With
your
information,
your
information
you're,
giving
us
it's
not
going
into
a
void,
it's
not
going
into
a
black
hole
and
then,
at
the
end,
the
public
engagement
plans
require
that
all
engagements
are
tracked
and
posted
online
for
complete
transparency.
So
we
have
an
engagement
report
that
all
engagements
have
to
fill
out
afterwards.
That
sort
of
says
where
was
it
hosted?
How
many
people
came?
Is
there
a
link?
What
were
the
major
things
that
are
brought
up
this
sort
of
stuff,
and
the
neat
part
of
it
is
that
it
went
through
our
planning.
C
Yeah
so-
and
I
think
this
is
also
very
much
an
equity
question,
because
the
way
that
we
see
public
engagement
happening
in
a
very
traditional
way
is
not
always
very
accessible
and
it's
not
always
very
transparent,
and
you
can
do
your
absolute
best
effort,
but
not
everybody
can
always
come
to
an
in-person
meeting
and
we
were
sort
of
as
we
were
working
on
the
public
engagement
guide.
It
was
clear
that
we
needed
to
think
about
online
engagement,
but
we
didn't
really
have
the
resources
at
the
time
to
say:
okay,
how
do
we
actually
do
that?
C
And
how
do
we
do
it
well,
and
so
in
some
ways,
covid
has
opened
up
the
doors
to
allow
us
to
really
dive
down
that
path
and
think
about
it
critically,
long
term.
As
director
dash
noted,
the
goal
would
be
to
do
in-person
and
online
engagement
in
parallel.
That's
really
what
the
most
equitable
and
successful
outcome
would
be,
and
so
we
have
established
the
engaged
pgh
platform
with
the
idea
that
this
is
a
short-term
intervention.
C
That's
also
going
to
achieve
long-range
goals,
and
I
think
alex
can
speak
to
sort
of
that
in
more
detail.
But
it
definitely
the
the
digital
engagement
site
does
a
lot
for
achieving
the
goals
of
the
public
engagement
guide.
It's
you
know,
there's
it's
such
a
lower
barrier
to
entry,
for
you
know
a
single
mom
who's.
A
That's
terrific
so
alex
walk
us
through
it,
so
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
global
pandemic,
and
we
have
all
these
active
projects
and
a
chance
to
figure
out
how
we
engage
online
in
a
meaningful
way
in
an
accessible
way
to
sophie's
point
and
in
a
way
that
that
can
be
iterative
over
time.
So
it's
not
just
a
static
one
one
attempt
and
that's
it.
How
do
you
explain
how
this
all
came
about
and
walk
us
through
it.
F
So
we
knew
that
the
7
pm
meetings
when
you
also
have
to
take
care
of
a
family
or
the
daytime
workshops
when
you're
you
also
work,
aren't
always
options,
and
so
the
online
portal
lets
people
go
in
when
they
have
time
whenever
they
are
available
on
a
phone
or
a
computer
to
participate
in
all
of
our
projects.
And
so
we
looked
at
ways
that
we
can
expand,
that
that
reach
and
in
in
covid
it
lets
us
reach
dirt
residents
where
they
are
and
adjust
our
projects
to.
A
A
It's
great
url
structure.
I've
said
it
once
I'll
say
it
again.
I
love
that
it's
so
simple
in
that
way.
What
are
some
of
the
initial
reactions
that
you've
seen
to
this,
and
and
what
are
your,
what
are
your
kind
of
hopes
for
for
the
future
it'd
be
great
to
have
these
different
projects
on
there
and
and
live,
but
but
what
do
you
think
the
future
or
the
new
normals
look
like,
given
the
initial
reactions.
F
Yeah,
I
think
the
initial
reactions
is
that
it's
a
it's
a
great
place
to
go
right
now
to
participate
in
a
time
when
it's
hard
to
have
any
of
those
conversations.
So
our
planners
can
have
one-on-one
conversations
through
zoom
or
a
phone
call
with
a
community
organization,
but
it's
hard
to
show
up
at
the
meetings
and
get
input
on
a
map
of
where
people
really
need
to
see
safety
improvements
or
where
they're
having
difficulties
accessing
food.
F
F
A
Yeah,
that's
terrific
and
it
really
seems
like
the
like
the
opportunity
ahead
of
us.
I've
seen
some
national
messaging
around
this
idea
of
building
back
better
and
and
here's
an
example
of
building
better
right
now
and
looking
at
what
the
new
normals
can
be
in
the
future.
But
how
can
you
get?
You
know
started
on
that,
even
during
a
pandemic
and
so
sophie.
Let's
talk
about,
let's
start
to
get
down
to
the
neighborhood
level
here
and
and
now
that
we've
kind
of
set
the
stage
for
here's.
C
Yeah
so
and
my
connection
cut
for
a
moment,
you
said
defining
kind
of
what
a
neighborhood
planner
is:
yes,
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you!
So
there's
eight
neighborhood
planners
now
we
just
got
another
one
which
is
fantastic,
and
each
of
us
work
in
about
10
to
15
city
of
pittsburgh.
Neighborhoods
to
the
sort
of
jargon
line
is
that
we
manage
all
capital
planning
projects
or
most
capital
planning
projects
in
this
10
to
15
neighborhoods.
That
doesn't
mean
a
lot
to
most
people.
C
C
So,
for
example,
I
worked
on
the
broadway
avenue
public
realm
in
the
south
hills
in
the
bcu
neighborhood,
and
that
was
a
concrete
set
of
funds
to
create
streetscape
improvements
along
broadway
avenue
along
the
main
street,
but
we
needed
the
planning
department
to
first
lead
a
project
to
say
how
should
these
funds
be
used,
we
don't
want
to
just
make
executive
decisions
about
streetscape
improvements
that
would
be
best
for
this
community.
We
want
to
have
a
process
through
which
we
talk
to
you
all
and
we
figure
out.
C
You
know:
do
you
want
picnic
benches
here?
Do
you
want
bike
lanes
here?
How
do
you
want
public
art
to
be
displayed
on
the
street,
and
so
that's
where
we
as
planners,
can
come
in
and
have
conversations
with
the
public
to
establish
vision
and
goals
for
larger
projects
as
they
relate
to
kind
of
land
use
that
often
involves
a
lot
of
collaboration
with
other
city
departments
like
our
department
of
mobility
infrastructure
and
our
department
of
public
works.
A
C
Yeah,
so
the
oakland
plan
is
a
neighborhood
plan.
Neighborhood
plans
are
guided
by
the
neighborhood
plan
guide
that
is
currently
under
development
or
kind
of
being
implemented
by
the
department,
which
is
a
huge
topic
for
another
day,
but
it's
a
great
resource
and
establishes
sort
of
a
standard
through
which
we
do
neighborhood
plans.
C
If
anyone
wants
to
go
and
explore
those
another
time,
we
could
probably
put
the
link
in
the
chat,
but
the
oakland
plan
is
using
this
neighborhood
plan
guide
framework
to
create
a
10-year
plan
for
a
shared
vision
for
oakland's
future
and
the
projects
and
programs
necessary
to
make
that
vision
a
reality.
That
is
a
lot
of
work.
We
are
looking
at
sort
of
four
key
buckets
within
which
we're
doing
that
work.
C
Those
are
community
development,
mobility
and
infrastructure,
and
I
josiah
I
have
the
joy
of
working
with
you
on
the
community
action
team
so
to
approach
this
process,
we
started
with
a
steering
committee.
This
is
a
common
process
that
most
planning
projects
start
with
and
that
steering
committee
has
actually
been
meeting
for
10
months.
C
At
this
point,
our
original
plan
in
april
was
to
host
a
series
of
block
parties
to
introduce
people
to
these
four
topics
that
we're
going
to
do
the
the
analysis
within
and
invite
them
to
engage
on
those
four
topics
in
a
longer
term
way.
Obviously,
we
were
not
doing
any
block
parties
in
april,
and
so
we
kind
of
took
a
step
back
and
we
said
okay,
we
need
to
reassess
and
we
need
to
do
this
well.
C
This
is
really
important
and
we're
going
to
be
establishing
some
some
sort
of
precedent
for
how
other
neighborhood
plans
might
do
this,
as,
as
my
colleagues
are
going
to
talk
about
their
own
projects
that
maybe
happened
before
cobit
or
after
covet
and
or
upcoming
things
like
that,
and
we
were
looking
to
online
engagement.
The
important
thing
was
we
wanted
members
of
the
community
to
be
able
to
talk
to
each
other.
C
One
of
the
things
that's
quite
great
about
the
online
environment
as
well.
Is
it
makes
it
really
straightforward
for
us
to
establish
the
lines
that
connect
the
different
topics?
You
can't
talk
about
mobility
in
a
vacuum
next
to
development.
When
you
have,
you
know
in
oakland
a
large
apartment,
building
going
up
on
forbes
avenue,
they're
going
to
redo
the
sidewalk
and
that's
going
to
impact
mobility
and
transportation
and
pedestrian
experience,
and
so
what
we
were
doing
in
person.
A
I
agree
and
the
joy
is
mine
sophie.
It's
been
a
lot
of
fun
to
learn
about
this,
this
realm
of
work
and
to
and
to
take
you
know,
a
small
part,
and
it's
been
fascinating
because
you
know
so
much
of
life
before
you're,
going
to
community
meetings
as
you're,
describing
or
perhaps
like
a
block
party
kind
of
idea,
and
and
it's
like
a
hard
stop
on
all
that,
but
the
project
is
still
ongoing.
A
I'm
curious
where
your
mind
goes
in
terms
of
describing
your
work
and
neighborhood
planning
and
then
I'd
love
to
jump
into
some
of
the
details
around
what's
been
happening
in
homewood,
it's
another
part
or
area
where
I
got
exposed
to
some
of
y'all's
work
when
I
worked
in
the
nonprofit
space
for
the
home
of
children's
village,
because
the
comprehensive
plan
and
a
lot
of
the
associated
conversations
were
happening
at
that
time
in
the
community
and
there's
a
lot
of
attention
around
it.
So
yeah
floor
is
yours.
D
Yeah,
the
so
pittsburgh
is
made
up
of
so
many
great
90
to
the
exact,
but
so
many
great
neighborhoods
and
at
a
local
level.
The
neighborhood
plans
are
no.
One
else,
is
better
equipped
to
kind
of
plan
out
a
neighborhood
other
than
our
neighborhoods.
And
so
I
think
our
department
has
been
really
smart
into
seeking
neighborhood
plans
and
having
the
feedback
from
the
community
and
having
those
neighborhood
plans
being
community
driven,
and
so
one
common
thread
that
I'm
hearing
throughout
equity
and
city
planning
and
neighborhood
plans.
D
And
even
our
engagement
is
that
consistent
practice
of
just
being
inclusive
right.
And
so,
when
we're
identifying
inequities
throughout
our
cities
and
our
neighborhoods.
We're
also
thinking
about
what
department
and
authority
should
we
be
collaborating
with
to
kind
of
dive
into
more
of
a
diverse
stakeholder
and
stakeholders
and
to
find
more
resources
to
really
create
some
type
of
resolve
right.
And
then
we
move
directly
into
creating
some
policies
and
programs
that
will
that
will
ultimately
lead
to
that
change
and
to
foster
some
equitable
changes.
D
And
then
we
also
will
love
to
just
follow
up
and
check
in
and
really
measure
how
our
policy
changes
and
other
changes
are
kind
of
impacting
our
community,
and
so
with
the
homewood
plan.
I
was
actually
fortunate
enough
to
inherit
the
plan
I'm
coming
up
on
a
year
with
the
department
now
and
we
had
a
an
implementation
plan.
So
we've
done
all
this
work.
We've
done
all
the
research
we've
done,
all
the
outreach
and
the
community,
and
we
had
the
plan
be
adopted
in
june.
A
I
appreciate
that
I'd
like
to
just
stay
with
the
with
the
operations
in
homewood,
just
for
a
quick
second,
it's
a
unique
example
among
the
ones
that
we've
talked
about
so
far
and
hazelwood
coming
up
is
another
unique
example
in
its
own
right.
But
here
you
have
this
community
with
extraordinary
history.
A
A
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
you'll
be
looking
at
executing
on,
and
and
what's
your
take
on
how,
unlike
the
ongoing
community
engagement,
because
something
else
that
I
realized
is
that
you
know
you
have
this,
this
relatively
small,
you
know
community,
but
there
is
distinct
neighborhood
identity
within
it
down
to
like
a
specific
street
of
strong
long-standing
community
and
like
neighborhood,
identity
and,
and
that
has
that
has
not
only
influenced
but
has
been
actively
engaged
in
this
case.
So
where
does
your
mind?
Go
with
that
kind
of
economy.
D
And
so
you
have
a
lot
of
care
there
and
they've
done
the
bolt
the
base
of
the
work
into
kind
of
streamlining
streamlining
what
it
is
that
they
want
to
see
so
operation,
better
block
kind
of,
took
a
look
at
land
use
along
with
city
planning,
and
so
this
plan,
our
neighborhood
plan
kind
of
amplified
that
where
we
didn't
focus
simply
on
place
but
on
person.
So
it's
a
person-driven
plan.
So
we
take
a
look
at
a
lot
of
policy.
D
Some
of
the
policy
that's
coming
out
and
the
implementation
plan
and
director
dash
kind
of
hinted
to
it.
But
it's
more
of
like
land
use
and
things
that
city
planning
is
known
for
so
like
land
use,
zoning
you
know
from
city
owned
properties
and
ways
to
kind
of
remove
that
and
find
a
better
way
to
serve
in
the
the
community
in
general.
D
And
so
you
know
we
have
a
food
and
security
planner
shelley
shelly
dantego
today
she's
taking
a
look
at
different
food
policies
that
we
can
incorporate,
and
so
that
goes
back
to
like
how
this
is
such
a
collaborative
effort,
meaning
that
we're
pulling
everyone
at
the
table,
including
all
of
our
stakeholders,
to
really
find
out.
How
can
we
create
not?
D
A
Yeah,
it's
super
fascinating
because
it's
one
of
the
it's
contrast
right
here.
You
have
the
the
intention
and
the
opportunity
for
longitudinal
impact,
you're
talking
about
a
20
30
year,
time
horizon
and
yet,
in
the
midst
of
this
conversation
to
the
to
the
work
that
shelley's
doing,
I
didn't
know
it's
just
that's
terrific
you're
also
talking
about
meeting
the
basic
needs
and
the
immediate
needs
of
the
community
as
you're
talking
about
all
this
stuff,
and
that's
really
one
of
the
way
reasons.
A
I
think
the
work
that
you
all
do
is
so
fascinating,
because
there
is
this
rigor.
There
is
this
expertise,
this
technical
component
to
it,
and
yet,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
talking
about
people
and
with
people
about
where
they
live
and
what
life
has
been
like,
and
I
think
that's
super
fascinating.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
the
visioning
studies
that
are
taking
place
right
now?
What
are
those
and
what
are
some
of
the
the
notable
ones
that
you
would
like
to
highlight.
D
D
It
is
pre-planning
work,
getting
the
vision
of
the
community
members
and
stakeholders
to
the
forefront
before
we
try
to
create
some
type
of
plan
for
community,
and
so
again
this
is
where
dcp
and
the
city
of
pittsburgh
gets
it
right
where
we're
putting
in
the
driver's
seat
our
community.
First,
it's
not
a
top-down
approach
and
so
we're
working
with
e-seals
lincoln
levington.
D
Viewers
can
definitely
go
in
and
check
some
of
the
surveys
that
we'll
have
there
we'll
be
doing
polling
and
more
information
about
just
our
community
meetings
and
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
that
project
or
this
project
should
last
probably
roughly
around
six
to
nine
months.
But
the
ultimate
goal
of
it
is
to
have
a
visioning
statement
that
is
produced
by
the
community.
That
kind
of
propels
us
into
doing
a
master
plan
for
in
that
community.
A
D
Yeah
alarmer
did
a
plan;
they
did
there,
they
have
a
plan.
This
is
it
predates
the
neighborhood
plan
guy.
If
you
will,
I
know
they're
doing
their
choice.
They're
wrapping
up
their
choice
phases,
I
believe
they're
in
phase
three
now
where
they
are,
as
you
can
tell
like
doing
a
lot
of
development
and
restoning
and
taking
a
look
at
some
of
the
line
use
that
they
have
there
too.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
jose
I'd
like
to
to
turn
to
you
as
well.
I'm
interested
in
where
your
mind
goes
hearing
the
conversation,
any
common
threads.
You
have
come
to
mind,
but
then
I'd
love
to
talk
about
your
work
and
how
you
describe
it
to
folks
before
we
dive
into
some
of
the
neighborhood
specifics.
E
E
Just
thank
you
just
say
it
like
that,
just
because
I
I
believe
that
we
love
what
we
do
and
it
shows
and
then
just
identifying
the
difference
between
equality
and
equity
and
how
the
neighborhood
plan
guide
like
identifies
the
equality
or
sets
up
equality
within
this
process.
But
then
us
working
like
christopher
was
saying
not
from
the
top
down,
but
that
makes
it
a
equitable
process
just
because
the
neighbor,
the
p,
the
peg
or
planning
education.
E
A
E
A
E
B
Sure
so
the
registered
community
organizations,
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
be
able
to
set
up.
You
know
a
framework
so
that
community
organizations
could
be
able
to
have
more
of
a
say
in
development
issues
that
are
going
on
in
their
neighborhood.
So
the
way
that
the
public
process
worked
before
is
that
if
there
was
a
development
that
was
coming
to
your
neighborhood,
the
only
public
process
was
downtown,
and
that
was
you
know
at
our
building
at
200
raw
street.
B
E
Sure
so
for
myself,
as
well
as
sophie
who's
here
on
the
line,
that's
a
major
role
for
the
equity
work
that
we've
been
doing
within
the
department
just
because
we
just
want
to
ensure
that
registered
community
organizations
are
equitable
with
throughout
the
city.
Just
because
not
every
organization
throughout
the
city
has
the
capacity
to
become
a
rco,
and
we
just
want
to
evaluate
that
they're
using
that
through
the
work
with
the
office
of
equity
and
then
just
using
that
as
a
means
of
assessment
for
equity
throughout
the
city.
A
Yeah
we'll
do
a
deeper
dive
a
little
bit
of
a
teaser
we're
going
to
do
a
another
conversation
with
city
planning
and
get
into
some
of
the
nitty
gritty
details
because,
as
you
as
is
very
clear,
not
only
is
there
a
lot
of
passion
and
enthusiasm
about
this
work
from
from
the
folks
on
the
call
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
we
could
wade
through
and
really
pick
apart
like
what
this
actually
looks
like
at
the
micro
level,
so
to
speak.
So,
let's
talk
about
hazelwood.
E
Sure
so
I
actually
joined
the
department
in
january
of
2019,
and
that
was
prior
to
both
the
public
engagement
guide
and
the
neighborhood
plan
guide
being
adopted,
and
I
took
on
that
plan
from
consultants
and
myself
and
another
planner
were
working
on
that
document
in-house
and
it
was
not
as
structured
as
it
would
have
been
with
these
with
these
documents
and
guides.
So
it
was
a
bit
different
and,
as
you
know
like,
every
neighborhood
is
different
and
hazelwood
love
them.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
are
watching,
but
I
love
you
guys.
E
Hey,
I'm
sorry,
that's
just
how
I
am,
but
but
hazelwood
is,
of
course
just
like
every
other
community.
They
are
very,
very
unique
and
we
stepped
into
this
process
and
a
it
was
a
bit
augmented
in
the
sense
that
they
were
again
like
it
wasn't
a
top-down
approach,
but
they
were
right
on
the
forefront
with
us.
Writing
this
plan
right
there
with
us
and
having
these
documents.
Of
course,
we
utilize
them
and
we
put
this
framework
the
the
action
teams.
E
They
were
not
aligned
with
these
documents,
where
it
was
just
the
community
infrastructure,
mobility,
action
teams
that
were
within
these
documents
prior
to-
and
we
didn't
have
the
informed,
consult
and
all
of
that
prior
to
as
well,
but
we
utilized
that
towards
the
end
of
the
process,
to
make
it
fit
as
pieces
and
then
trying
to
move
it
forward
into
this
implementation
phase,
which
has
been
very
helpful.
However,
as
we
were
drafting
out
this
plan
and
then
moving
it
into
adoption,
it
was
very
difficult.
E
A
E
That
was
a
definitely
a
conversation
that
we
had
to
have
and
speaking
about
engaged
pgh
like
that's
why
this
platform
is
definitely
something
that
is
needed
moving
forward
because,
like
it's
like
sophie,
was
saying
part
part
of
me,
there
it's
a
low
barrier
to
entry,
because
it's
easier
for
the
older
population
to
use,
and
then,
of
course,
we
know
majority
of
the
population,
since
they
are
younger,
they
will
be
able
to
utilize
it.
However,
if
they
do
not
have
the
means
to
communications
there,
which
was
also
looked
at.
E
Thank
you
to
alex
and
sophie
that
was
also
something
that
they
researched.
While
they
were
looking
into
engage
pgh,
if
they
don't
have
a
means
to
access,
then
how
will
they
be
able
to
access
that,
but
then
also
the
residents
of
hazelwood,
hazelwood
initiative
and
center
of
life
and
many
of
the
churches
there
like
they
are
making
sure
that
their
residents
have
those
means
to
access,
of
course,
the
internet
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and,
of
course,
engage
pgas.
A
E
A
A
Where
you
have
you
know
all
this
institutional
knowledge
and
rigor,
you
have
the
chance
for
longitudinal
impact,
and
then
you
have
also
this
very
real
opportunity
and-
and
I
think,
responsibility
to
engage
around
the
needs
of
the
residents
as
as
you're
doing
this,
and
that
might
be
basic
needs.
I
remember
hearing
about
you,
know
food
deserts
and
stuff
working
in
hazelwood,
I'll,
say
or,
but
it
also
might
be
to
your
point.
Digital
needs,
digital
divide
and
stuff,
like
that.
So
how?
A
How
do
you
all
when
we
have
engaged
pgh
now,
which
is
great?
We
have
things
like
zoom.
If
we're
thinking
about
community
engagement,
how
are
we
making
it
more
accessible?
What
does
that
actually
look
like
through
the
context
of
these
plans
so,
for
example,
sophie
in
oakland
yeah?
We
have
these
great
new
tools
and
stuff
like
that.
But
if
someone
were
to
ask
you
know
how
are
you
being
intentionally
and
iteratively
accessible?
How
would
you
all
answer
that
question
for
anybody.
B
B
You
know
we
do
have
a
connection
with
the
311
team,
so
folks,
who
want
to
be
able
to
engage
in
city
and
city
projects
but
may
not
be
able
to
access
the
website
have
the
ability
to
access
that
through
3-1-1
we're
looking
to
be
able
to
add
texting
services
in
the
near
future
to
the
site
as
well.
But
you
know,
and
in
our
research
as
we
were
developing
the
site.
B
B
They
have
may
have
a
cell
phone
that
has
a
data
plan,
and
so
you
know
we
needed
to
to
create
a
variety
of
opportunities,
so
whether
it's
something
that
somebody
can
just
very
quickly
access
on
their
phone
and
not
use
much
data
that
they
can
do
that
or
if
it's
someone
wanting
to
be
able
to
access
a
zoom
meeting
like
this
one
or
another
one.
That
is
more
data-heavy
that
you
know
that
for
that
there
are
a
multitude
of
ways
that
people
can
engage
with
us.
D
A
C
One
more
thing
that
I
would
add
is
that
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
how
the
platform
increases
accessibility
to
engagement,
the
other
thing
that
it
does,
though,
and
that's
a
fantastic
step
forward
for
the
city,
but
the
other
thing
that
it
does
is.
It
enables
us
to
have
some
very
explicit
conversations
around
topics
of
racial
equity
and
other
sort
of
really
pressing
topics
in
the
world.
Today,
oftentimes
in
public
engagement,
you
go
into
a
public
meeting.
You
have
a
very
specific
thing
you
need
to
accomplish.
C
You
have
a
limited
amount
of
time
to
accomplish
it,
you're
trying
to
be
really
respectful
of
people's
time.
You
don't
want
to
ask
them
to
be
there
more
than
one
to
two
hours.
They
don't
want
to
be
there
more
than
one
to
two
hours,
and
so
it
can
be
really
hard
to
have
open-ended
conversation
and
and
there's
also,
you
know,
engagement
is
not
always
something
that
people
are
trained
on
and
so
there's
this
fear
of.
C
If
anyone
has
has
watched,
parks
and
rec
there's
the
leslie
knope,
you
know
sort
of
like
the
angry
town
hall
style,
public
meeting.
That's
what
we
all
think
of-
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
challenging
myself
to
do-
is
to
say
that
the
traditional
public
meeting
is
what
we
think
we
have
to
do,
but
no
one
is
telling
us
we
have
to
do
that.
C
It's
not
a
requirement,
and
so,
with
this
online
world
we
can
sort
of
flip
that
on
its
head
and
open
the
door
for
these
really
open-ended
conversations,
and
just
let
people
give
us
input,
they
don't
need
to
be
experts.
They
don't
need
to
know.
Oh
this
comment
I
have
on
whatever
topic.
It
is
ascribes
specifically
to
this
one
project
within
this
one
department
on
this
one
street.
C
That's
asking
a
level
of
expertise
from
the
public
that
maybe
they
don't
have,
and
they
shouldn't
have
to
become
an
expert
in
order
to
contribute
that,
and
so
these
open-ended
questions
we're
able
to
pose
are
going
to
allow
us,
as
a
city
staff,
to
look
and
see
these
really
broad
comments
and
then
ascribe
them
to
the
relevant
projects
and
the
relevant
project
managers
and
hopefully
help
those
comments.
Go
a
lot
farther
and
facilitate
some
really
powerful
community
conversation.
A
Are
forthcoming?
That's
terrific!
Thank
you
so
much.
I
guess
we
should
probably
bring
the
conversation
to
a
close
looks
like
we're
just
over
an
hour
here
and
it's
very
clear
that
we
could
talk
about
this
stuff
all
day
and,
as
we
mentioned,
we're
going
to
do
a
deeper
dive
on
on
some
of
these
comments.
Just
some
final
encouragements
for
you
all
I'd
like
to
open
it
back
up
to
the
table
so
to
speak,
to
the
zoom
room,
one
last
time,
any
final
encouragements
for
people.
B
All
right
I'll
jump
in
yeah,
so
I
think
we're
really.
You
know.
With
with
our
neighborhood
plans,
I
mean:
we've
talked
a
lot
more
around
the
engagement
side,
so
I'll
move
to
the
neighborhood
plans.
I
think
we're
really
excited
to
be
able
being
able
to
work
with
this
first
phase
of
neighborhood
plans,
as
I
think
christopher
no
said
stated
in
making
things
happen
in
the
neighborhoods.
B
So
whether
that's
you
know
whether
it's
changing
zoning
and
land
use
regulations
because
neighborhoods
want
more,
affordable
housing.
You
know
to
you
know,
thinking
about
how
we
start
to
affect
how
some
of
the
institutions
in
some
of
these
neighborhoods,
where
we
have
these
neighborhood
plans,
they
have
master
plans,
how
we
start
to
affect
that
to
really
fit
those
with
the
community's
vision
or
how
you
know
jose
when
she
was
working
in
hazelwood.
B
One
of
the
things
that
they
had
kind
of
noted
was,
you
know
like
they
have
high
high
asthma
rates.
They
have
higher
particulate
matter.
We
need
to
work
on
planting
trees
and
working
in
the
greenway,
because
there
are
higher
rates
of
diabetes.
You
know
like
trying
to
think
through
those
things.
Those
improvements
that
can
be
made
that
really
do
affect
the
people
that
live
there
and
that
the
people
that
live
there
really
told
us
were
the
things
that
they
wanted
to
see.
B
And
then
you
know,
I
think,
to
some
of
the
stuff
that
christopher
talked
about
as
well
in
in
places
like
lincoln
levington
or
in
east
hills.
You
know
really
starting
the
conversation
in
some
of
these
communities
that
aren't
as
organized,
and
so
you
know
I
mean
you
know
you
know,
there's
a
reason
why
christopher
talked
about
you
know
kind
of
the
organization
in
homewood
and
the
way
that
the
community
is
organized
in
homewood
and
was
able
to
come
to
the
table
a
little
bit.
B
You
know
a
little
bit
easier
with
what
they
wanted
to
see,
then
a
place
like
east
hills
or
lincoln
limington,
where
you
know
where
there's
still
work
to
be
done
in
trying
to
get
the
community
to
organize
to
then
be
able
to
tell
us
what
they
want
and
to
be
able
to
get
to
just
that.
Broad
vision
is
really
important
so
that
down
the
road
we
can
be
working
on.
B
You
know
on
neighborhood
plans
with
those
communities
as
as
they
start
to
come
together,
identify
what
those
things
those
big
picture
items
are
that
they
want
to
see
and
what
they
see
their
community
becoming.
So
you
know,
I
think
you
know
I
think,
just
really
excited
to
to
take
on
this
work
and
really
excited
for
not
only
the
group.
That's
on
this
call,
but
the
rest
of
the
team
to
be
able
to
make
that
happen.
A
F
I
guess
one
thing
would
just
be
like
to
echo
what
director
dash
has
said
and
to
continue
that
that
we
are
all
in
this
together.
We
are
here
to
support
the
residents
of
all
of
the
neighborhoods,
and
we
want
to
hear
what
the
residents
need
and
want
for
their
neighborhood
to
make
this
city
better
for
all
of
us.
E
C
Maybe
we
can
sort
of
challenge
people
and
say
you
know,
I'm
a
young
person,
you
know
public
meetings
are
not
fun.
They're,
not
trendy,
they're,
not
how
you
want
to
spend
your
thursday
night.
Most
of
my
friends
have
never
been
to
public
meetings
and
I'm
constantly
shaming
them
and
saying
you
know
you're,
my
friend,
you
should
go
to
a
public
meeting.
C
A
I
love
it
yeah,
it
might
not
be
the
most
immediately
obvious
place
that
people
might
think
of
to
get
civically
engaged,
but
it
is
available
to
them,
and
I
just
want
to
echo
that
sentiment.
You
know
eight
years
I
spent
in
the
nonprofit
space
and
that
entire
time
two
friends
came
to
one
event
that
I
was
involved
with
during
that
entire
time,
and
yet
we
are
doing
things
you
know
continuously
and
here's
an
example
where
you
have.
A
You
know
down
to
the
neighborhood
level,
people
that
are
there
to
speak
with
you
to
serve
the
residents
needs
to
engage
with
them,
trying
to
get
it
right,
trying
to
get
it
better.
There
are
more
tools
than
ever,
there's
more
accessibility
than
ever
and
we're
trending
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
hope
folks
that
have
taken
the
chance
and
the
opportunity
and
the
times
of
you.
This
conversation
feel
at
least
encouraged
about
that
we
have
an
enthusiastic
team
and
a
really
good
team.
So
I
will
bring
this
conversation
to
a
close.
A
Thank
you
all
so
very
much
for
taking
the
time
whether
you're
in
the
person
or
checking
this
out
online.
After
the
fact,
please
check
out
the
comments
for
links
to
the
various
things
that
were
mentioned,
or
google
search
for
these
neighborhood
planners
and
personnel
to
engage
with
them
directly.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
two
asl
interpreters,
who
have
been
along
for
the
ride,
making
sure
that
this
conversation
is
accessible
and
to
the
city
channel
team
for
helping
us
put
together
this
broadcast.