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From YouTube: Equity Series: Racial Equity, Communities, & Legislation
Description
The Mayor's Office of Equity officials and City Council members discussed racial equity in our city and the role policy and legislation play in ensuring equity is a priority during and after the pandemic.
A
Good
afternoon,
happy
monday,
and
thank
you
for
joining
us.
My
name
is
josiah
gilliam
and
I'm
the
my
brother's
keeper
coordinator
for
mayor
bill
peduto
and
we've
been
doing
a
series
of
conversations
around
realities
related
to
covid
and
equity
and
progress
and
policy,
and
we
have
a
special
opportunity
today.
A
I'd
have
a
conversation
with
some
team
members
in
the
office
of
equity
and
in
the
mayor's
office
and
some
council
members
for
pittsburgh
city
council
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
the
chance
to
to
chat
with
them
and
also,
and
also
to
learn
so
without
further
ado.
Let's
just
jump
right
in
and
start
with
introductions
for
those
of
us
on
the
call
here.
Can
you
just
start
with
your
name,
your
title
and
how
you
share
what
you
do
through
your
role
and
we'll
start
with
councilman
ricky
burgess.
B
Hello,
I'm
councilman
ricky
purges.
I
serve
as
representatives
for
district
nine
and
I
am
intently
concerned
about
both
police
reform
and
economic
and
community
development
in
african-american
communities.
A
Thank
you,
sir
councilman
labelle.
C
My
name
is
daniel
lavelle.
Excuse
me.
I
serve
representing
city
council
district
six,
which
includes
parts
of
oakland
hill
district
downtown
in
the
north
side
and
equal
to
councilman
burgess.
I
have
I
shared
many
of
his
concerns,
but
the
overall
state
of
affairs
for
african
americans
as
well.
A
I
appreciate
that
deputy
chief
lane.
D
Thank
you,
deputy
chief
of
staff
and
chief
equity
officer
in
that
context,
again,
really
looking
at
you
know
all
populations
in
our
our
city
and
trying
to
be
thoughtful
and
think
about
what
it
looks
like
to
really
have
equity
and
fairness
and
opportunity
for
every
citizen
of
our
city
and
not
just
a
few.
Thank.
A
You,
sir,
and
chief
powell,.
E
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
majestic
and
lindsey
I'd
like
to
start
it
with
you
and
and
before
we
get
into
like
the
meat
of
the
call.
How
are
you
two
doing?
It's
been
a
while,
since
we've
all
been
on
a
call
and
checked
in
how
are
things
going
with
youtube.
D
So
I'll
start
in
the
show
chief
powell
add-on,
I'm
you
know
doing
well,
as
can
you
know
all
things
considered
during
this
time
I
mean
obviously
we're
in
the
time
of
just
intense
change,
not
just
in
our
city
but
all
across
the
country
and
all
across
the
world.
Frankly-
and
it's
just
really
thinking
about
how
you
know:
do
you
take
the
energy
and
so
much
of
the
effort
and
so
much
of
the
vision
that
that
people
have
right
now
for
this
time
of
change,
and
how
do
you
institutionalize
it?
D
How
do
you
make
sure
that
it's
long-standing
change?
How
do
you
make
sure
that
it's
not
a
blip
on
the
arc,
the
long
arc
of
history,
but
yet
a
you
know,
transition
to
a
new
place
in
the
arc
of
history,
so
you
know
well,
but
just
acknowledging
that
many
of
the
challenges
we're
seeing
are
all
symptoms
of
a
larger,
a
larger
issue.
E
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
chief
lane
put
it
together
beautifully.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
us
in
the
policy
space
are
overwhelmed,
but
overjoyed
by
a
lot
of
the
energy
that's
going
into
thinking
about
how
do
we
shift
to
a
quote-unquote
new
normal?
E
A
So,
let's,
let's
keep
it
with
this
idea
of
you
know
policy.
Can
you
speak
as
far
as
the
peduto
administration?
You
know
what
has
the
team
been
focused
on
and
what
should
we
keep
in
mind
for
the
conversation
today?
A
You
mentioned
that
there's
this
interesting
blend
here,
where,
especially
when
it
comes
to
policy,
there
have
been
things
that
have
been
in
the
works
and
in
progress
for
some
time
and
yet
now
we're
in
this
moment
too,
with
increased
enthusiasm
and
attention
and
and
some
specific
actions
taking
place.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
that
and
then
that'll
help
us
frame
the
rest
of
the
conversation.
E
Sure,
no,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think
good
policy
lasting
policy
has
a
few
tenants.
You
know,
obviously
being
intentional
about
the
outcomes
that
you
want
to
see,
but
also
understanding
the
moment
that
you're
in
oftentimes,
especially
in
our
highly
politicized
world
within
the
policy
space
you
push
as
much
as
you
can
so
in
this
climate.
E
You
know,
maybe
we'll
push
a
legislative
piece
of
legislation
this
way,
even
though
the
goal
is
much
further
and
so
currently
with
a
lot
of
the
conversations
that
are
happening
particularly
on
how
to
bring
racial
equity,
you
know
policy
to
the
forefront.
How
do
we
support
black
neighbors
and
communities?
How
do
we
shift
the
conversation
to
thinking
about?
Not
just
you
know,
how
do
we
get
what
we
we
can,
but
how
do
we
get?
E
What
we
want
need,
I'm
very
grateful
that
within
the
administration
we
have
some
very
thoughtful
policy
folks
who
are
trying
to
again
uplift
a
lot
of
the
energy
that
we've
seen
out
in
the
community
into
lasting
policy
that
that
will
move
towards
change.
A
I
appreciate
that
so
one
of
the
things
the
mayor
had
accepted
was
the
mbk
challenge
related
to
police
reform
and
then
recently,
the
announcement
of
a
task
force
specifically
geared
in
this
direction.
That's
going
to
provide
recommendations
on
what
seems
like
an
accelerated
time
frame.
This
fall,
I'm
really
getting
back
with
some
some
actionable
items.
A
D
Well,
I
would
also
add
you
can
also
add
that
the
mayor's
agreed
to
adopt
eight
can't
wait
models
come
from
campaign
zero
he's.
You
know
we're
looking
at
the
development
of
office
of
community
health
and
safety.
That
really
looks
to
you
know
acknowledge
that
often.
D
In
our
con,
in
our
modern
day,
you
know
body
politic,
police
are
asked
to
do
a
lot
of
things
and
serve
a
lot
of
other
purposes
and
because
of
those
things,
you
get
a
lot
of
sometimes
negative
impacts
from
that.
D
You
know
the
state
and
other
in
other
parties
really
to
think
about
this
idea
of
what
does
community
health
look
like?
How
do
we
reduce
proximity
violence?
How
do
we
deal
with
situations
with
people
with
no
addresses?
How
are
we
dealing
with
the
opioid
epidemic
and
how
we're
supporting
and
and
growing
alongside
police,
to
be
able
to
work
on
those
kind
of
things
and
really
kind
of
set
a
new
state
for
how
we're
going
to
engage
and
how
we're
going
to
serve
all
of
our
citizens
and
not
serve
all
of
our
citizens?
D
In
a
very
one-size-fits-all
context,
which
we
see,
there
are
just
a
lot
of
negative
externalities
that
come
from.
You
know
that
mentality.
So
it's
really
about
doing
things
on
a
variety
of
different
levels.
There's
programmatic
challenges,
program,
mac
investments-
recently,
we've
been,
you
know,
invested
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
around
our
group.
D
Violence
intervention
work
to
kind
of
complement,
some
of
the
work
that
councilman
lavelle
and
councilman
burch
did
late
last
year,
so
we
we
know
that
it
takes
all
that
we
know
it
takes
a
level
of
coordination,
a
lot
of
people,
think
of
things
as
a
silver
bullet,
and
you
know
when
you're
looking
at
the
total
life,
the
quality
of
life
for
our
residents,
there's
no
silver
bullet.
D
All
these
things
are
interconnected,
and
so
you
know
what
you'll
hear
today
and
what
you
see
today
is
even
how
you
know
the
mayor's
office
interacts
with
council
people
who
share
interest
in
working
on
things
that
are
important
to
all
of
the
residents,
and
so
you,
you
would
here
talk
about
the
public
racism
of
public
health.
Commission.
D
You
know
racism
and
white
supremacy,
those
are
global
phenomenas,
those
are
not
local
phenomena,
they
have
a
focus
of
local
activity
as
it
pertains
to
individuals
lives,
but
these
are
broad
things.
These
are
broadcast
interlocking
systems
that
have
coke
inspired
to
harm,
and
so
we
have
to
think
about
how
do
we
create
systems
that
co-conspire
to
heal
and
to
help?
And
that's
that's
easier
said
than
done,
but
that's
the
process
of
thinking
about
the
relationship
of
policy
programmatics
and
procedural
changes
and
shifts
that
we're
doing
within
the
administration.
D
A
You
so
it's
it's
fascinating,
because
even
in
the
past
calendar
year,
it's
great
that
we
have
the
council
people
here
with
us
today
to
speak
to
some
of
this,
because
on
a
policy
and
public
health
standpoint,
they've
been
some
of
the
most
visible
forward-facing
leaders
speaking
about
these
issues.
A
But
if
you
were
to
have
asked
me
in
like
the
mbk
work
about
work
related
law
enforcement,
I
would
have
pointed
the
public
health
framing
around
violence,
prevention
and
intervention
as
a
really
good
example
of
where
law
enforcement
and
the
community
have
been
working
together
and
where
resources
have
been
deployed
to
not
just
activate,
not
just
engage
but
to
pay
community
members
to
do
that
kind
of
work,
and
we
were
seeing
what
I
felt
was
was
tremendous
results
and
the
numbers
excuse
me,
and
now
we
have
this
this
moment
of
increased
attention
and
it's
fascinating
to
consider
what
more
might
be
done.
A
I'd
like
to
pivot
to
the
council,
people
now
councilman
burgess,
reverend
burgess!
Thank
you
for
for
being
here,
sir,
before
we
get
into
the
meat
of
of
the
policy
stuff
and
how
the
sausage
gets
made
happy
father's
day
to
you,
and
I
just
wondered,
and
I
would
just
wonder
how
you
how
you've
been
doing
and
what's
been
on
your
mind
recently,
I
would
would
would
say,
is
probably
a
pretty
unprecedented
time.
Even
in
your
tenure.
B
Well,
certainly,
probit
19
has
disproportionately
affected
people
of
color
and
community
of
color.
The
most
disadvantaged
group
is
african-americans
over
70
and
as
a
pastor
I
have
been,
you
know,
just
focused
on
trying
to
keep
members
of
my
church
and
certainly
members
of
my
family,
safe
and
practicing
social
distance.
B
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
acknowledge
at
this
moment,
but
I
am
acutely
aware
of
that.
This
is
the
moment
to
talk
about
race.
We
have
used
buzzwords
equity
inclusion
or
you
use
all
these
words,
but
in
pittsburgh
the
reality
is.
There
is
primarily
two
groups
of
people.
B
There
are
the
majority
culture
and
there
are
african-americans
right,
and
I
am
completely
convinced
that
is
now
a
time
to
talk
specifically
about
racial
equity
and
about
investing
in
the
places
that
african
americans
live,
and
I
believe
that
it
is
time
for
us
to
prioritize
the
african-american
community
and
it's
very
simple
to
me
that
we
are
to
build
african
american
communities
for
african
americans
by
african
americans
with
our
allies
and
partners
and
that's
the
real.
B
I
think
we
need
a
place-based
strategy
and
we
need
to
focus,
although
we'll
be
doing
lots
of
policy
stuff.
It's
really
when
we
are
willing
to
invest
in
our
communities
at
scale
with
all
the
things
it
needs.
As
long
as
we
have
these
communities
of
pittsburgh,
which
are
segregated
and
isolated
poverty,
communities
are
concentrated.
Probably
rather
things
will
not
get
better
and
so
you're
going
to
hear
me,
although
I
am
still
really
interested
in
police
reform,
I'm
really
interested
in
equity
work.
B
I'm
really
interested
in
how
we
change
city
government,
but
you're,
also
going
to
hear
me
challenge
both
city
government
and
all
stakeholders
to
now
pivot
to
a
place-based
strategy
to
begin
to
in
a
tangible
way,
a
tangible
manifestation
of
our
commitment
will
be
the
rebuilding
of
the
hill
district,
the
rebuilding
of
homewood,
the
rebuilding
of
belsuva,
the
rebuilding
of
the
north
side
of
manchester.
And
when
we
do
that,
then
we
can
begin
to
talk
about
our
real
commitment
and
how
we
have
shown
that,
in
the
targeting
of
resources
to
those
communities.
A
B
Well,
I
have
a
pastor,
a
church,
one
block
from
where
I
was
born
and
raised
for
the
last
36
years.
I
have
been
a
professor
at
our
local
community
college,
including
two
blocks
from
where
I
was
born
and
raised
right
for
the
last
30
years.
I
married
a
girl
who
I
met
in
first
grade,
who
was
four
blocks
from
where
I
was
raised
and
live,
and
so
I've
spent
my
entire
and
I
lived
three.
B
I
lived
two
blocks
from
where
I
was
born
right
now,
and
so
I've
spent
my
entire
life
in
one
community
trying
to
make
a
difference,
and
what
happened
was
that
I
was
pastoring
in
the
midst
of
the
crack
epidemic
in
the
midst
of
gang
violence,
and
I
tried
in
doing
social
work
in
addition
to
teaching
to
make
a
difference,
and
I
realized
that
I
was
not
doing
enough,
and
so
I
came
to
council
with
really
two
priorities
that
I
had
kept.
One
is
I
wanted
to
stop
violence.
B
We
brought,
as
you
know,
the
group
violence
initiative
stuff.
It
was
then
called
perk
to
pittsburgh
and
was
its
leader
to
get
it
implemented
and
it
did
as
it
would.
We
knew
it
would
do
it
reduced
the
number
of
homicides
and
in
part,
and
then
second
of
all,
I
have
been.
You
know
actively
concerned
about
rebuilding
black
communities
that
you
cannot
just.
You
can't
just
create
change
on
a
broad
base,
but
you
must
zero
down
to
concentrate
on
these
communities
of
isolated
poverty
and
transform
them
into
mixed
income
neighborhoods.
B
All
those
things
must
be
done
at
the
same
time
at
scale,
and
so
I've
been
trying
to
create
showcase
communities.
Priority
communities
select
communities
in
the
city
that
are
the
first
wave
of
this
work,
and
library,
of
course,
is
our
best
example.
We
think
homewood
is
next
up
for
my
district
and
then
over
time
to
rebuild
african-american
communities
throughout
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
A
Thank
you,
sir
you're.
Also
someone
that's
served
on
council
for
some
time
and
how?
How
do
you,
if
you
were
explaining
the
work
of
city
council
to
a
group
of
youth
in
your
district?
How
do
you
explain
what
the
city
council
is
and
how
they,
what
their
role
is.
B
Well,
at
this
point,
I
think
I
am
the
longest
serving
african-american
member
of
council
in
its
history.
I'm
pretty
sure
I
am,
and
so
I
think
council
does
three
things.
One
council
does
legislative
stuff
right.
We
write
laws,
we
pass
budgets,
we
oversee
the
city
budget
through
a
period
of
laws,
so
we
write
laws
and
we
oversee
the
budget.
That's
like
the
first
bucket.
The
second
budget
is,
we
do
what's
called
constituents
concerns.
B
That
is,
if
you
have
a
problem
at
home,
an
individual
person,
they
call
us
and
they
call
us
to
get
their
streets
paved
or
we
or
they
call
us
because
a
tree
has
fell
down
or
public
works
needs
to
come
and
shovel
snow.
So
the
second
thing
we
do
is
constituent
concerns
and
answer
their
questions
and
act
like
advocates
for
them
individually.
B
But
then
the
third
thing
we
do-
and
I'd
probably
tend
to
do
more
of
this
than
other
members
of
council
is
we
become
advocates
for
our
community.
We
become
in
many
ways
it's
leaders
to
advocate
for
change
or
for
what
our
communities
need.
We
can
do
that
advocation
just
in
government,
but
we,
I
think
to
be
effective,
have
to
do
that
on
the
state
as
majestic.
B
We
legislate
one
we
act
as
helpers
in
doing
constituency
concerns,
but
then
the
third
thing
we
act
as
advocates
as
public
advocates
for
the
good
for
the
communities
we
represent
in
specifically,
but
in
general
at
least,
I
think
in
lavell
and
eyes
and
for
because
of
marvel-
and
I
reveal
ourselves
as
the
spokesman
for
the
african
khmer
african-american
community,
who,
even
if
they
are
not
in
our
district,
they
are
not
all.
They
are
usually
not
a
priority
of
the
council.
A
So,
let's
just
keep
it
with
your
district,
very
briefly,
let's
place
it
for
folks.
What
neighborhoods
are
we
speaking?
You
mentioned
homewood
and
larmor.
What
neighborhoods
are
we
talking
about
with
your
district,
in
particular,.
B
Basically,
I
represent
from
garfield
to
east
hills,
and
so
I
represent
garfield
homewood
east
liberty,
lincoln
lemmington,
larmor
parts
of
point,
breeze,
half
of
stanton
heights
parts
of
a
little
part
of
friendship-
and
I
think
that's
that's
all
of
the
districts
and
park
place
would
be
the
last
one
and
so
east.
I
am
the
most
east
of
the
council
districts
and
I
represent
the
largest
group
of
african
americans.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
councilman
labelle.
Let's
turn
to
you,
sir
happy
belated
father's
day
to
you
as
well.
How
are
you
doing
with
the
recent
several
weeks
and
also
the
realities
of
cobin
19
for
the
past
several
months.
C
Thank
you.
All
things
considered,
I'm
doing
relatively
well
my
biggest
challenge.
Well,
one
of
my
biggest
challenges
has
been.
I
have
two
young
children,
seven
and
nine,
and
so
I
miss
this
pandemic
school
shutdown.
C
Obviously
how
to
keep
them
active,
how
to
keep
educating
them,
how
to
make
sure
they
get
some
time
outside
that's
sort
of
been
a
a
personal
challenge
and
then
you
obviously
have
all
the
unrest
and
calls
for
social
justice
that
we've
now
seen
and
again
sort
of
on
a
personal
level
how
to
have
that
conversation
with
my
two
children
who,
on
a
weekly
basis
or
seeing
things
on
the
news
and
asking.
Why
is
this
black
men
dying
when?
Why
is
this
black
men
being
choked
and
trying
to
reconcile
with
that?
C
And
so
it's
these
are
interesting
times,
but
I
think
sort
of
as
director
powell
said,
I'm
also
optimistic,
because
we
now
see
our
specifically
our
white
allies
taking
to
the
streets
and
realizing
that
this
these
we
need
change,
and
these
are
times
where
we
can
actually
have
an
impact.
And
so
amidst
this
crisis,
we
have
an
actual
opportunity
to
do
some
good,
and
so,
for
those
reasons,
I'm
excited.
A
C
Sure
it
was
actually
representative
wheatley,
so
I
was
actually
living
in
ohio
at
the
time.
I
left
pittsburgh
in
1995
to
go
away
to
college.
At
that
time
I
actually
said
I
would
probably
never
return
and
was
about
two
months
from
going
to
florida
state
for
graduate
works.
When
I
was
living
in
ohio
and
representative
wheatley
knew
of
my
interest
in
government
and
gave
me
a
call
and
said
hey.
Would
you
be
interested
in
coming
back
to
pittsburgh
to
potentially
work
for
a
city
councilman?
C
At
that
time
it
was
saludine,
and
so
I
said
sure
I'll
take
a
chance
at
it.
So
drove
home
did
an
interview
interviewed
with
him
a
couple
times
and
ultimately
he
offered
me
the
position.
So,
instead
of
going
to
graduate
school
in
florida,
I
packed
up
my
bags
and
moved
back
to
pittsburgh
and
then
worked
for
salah
for
a
while,
eventually
went
to
work
for
state
representative,
jake,
wheatley
and
then
eventually
sort
of
at
the
he
didn't
know.
A
C
So
every
so
often
I'm
asked
to
come
into
a
school
to
talk
to
kids,
about
what
my
job
is
and
what
we
do
and
for
the
most
part
they're
clueless,
and
they
don't
see
any
value
in
local
government,
and
so
I
often
ask
them:
do
you
know
who
the
president
is
and
they,
of
course
they
know
who
the
president
is
and
I'll
sort
of
say?
Well,
I
may
have
a
greater
impact
on
your
life
than
he
will
and
they
don't
see
any
rationale
behind
that.
C
Until
I
ask
him,
tell
me
something
you
like
to
do
whatever
that
is,
and
it
may
be
basketball.
Maybe
I
like
to
listen
to
music.
Whatever
the
example
they
give
me,
and
so
I
say:
well
now,
I'm
gonna
make
a
law
that
says:
you're
not
allowed
to
play
basketball
any
time
between
12
and
six
and
they'll
say
you
can't
do
that.
C
A
I
appreciate
that
please
don't
make
that
law.
That
would
be
personally
grievous
to
me
as
a
basketball
plan
and
player,
but
it's
a
it's
a
good
illustration.
So
just
root
us
spatially
very
quickly
when
we
mention
your
districts.
What
neighborhoods
are
we
referring
to
for
folks.
C
So
I
start
in
oakland
and
then
I
come
through
the
hill
district
uptown
downtown
across
over
to
the
north
side,
manchester
central
northside,
california,
kirkbride
perry,
hilltop
marshall
yeah
in
manchester.
A
Got
it
so
the
question
for
both
of
you,
council
people-
and
this
has
been
mentioned
already
a
little
bit
and
then
other
places
around
the
nation
and
around
the
world.
There's
been
an
outsized
impact
of
coba
19
on
poorer
populations,
communities
of
color,
black
populations
and
african-american
populations.
A
We've
been
very
concerned
about
that
here
in
the
city
in
the
region
and
even
though
we've
had
a
relatively
mild
cobalt
19
experience
up
until
now,
compared
to
other
municipalities
that
we
see
in
the
nation,
we
still,
we
still
see
some
of
the
disparities
emerging
when
we
take
a
look
at
at
rates
stratified
by
race.
You
two
represent,
I
believe,
a
majority
of
the
african
americans
between
the
two
of
you
in
the
city.
A
C
So
so
I'll
begin
so
towards
your
point.
We
absolutely
know
that
there's
a
disparity
between
african-american
community
and
the
rest
of
those
who
are
being
affected
early
on.
We
saw
the
numbers
in
detroit
and
minneapolis
and
other
places
that,
where
you
could
see
the
extreme
despair
between
those
those
being
affected,
african-americans
dying
at
alarming
rates
because
of
underlining
issues
that
covet
is
affecting,
and
so
working
with.
C
My
colleague,
reverend
burgess,
we
did
put
together
legislation
to
put
together
a
task
force
to
deal
with
racial
inequalities
related
to
covet
and
how
we
respond
to
it.
We
will
work
with
director
powell
and
director
lane
on
that
and
the
administration
on
how
we
follow
through
with
that,
but
there
is
grave
concerns.
I
continue
to
remind
people
that
we
are
still
in
this
pandemic,
despite
our
low
numbers.
On
a
personal
note,
my
mother-in-law
caught
it,
my
sister
caught
it.
C
C
What
are
the
economic
opportunities
that
may
exist?
What
are
the
fields
where
people
actually
need
to
be
employed,
and
how
do
we
work
with
them
to
gain
better
jobs?
They
come
back
out
of
this,
so
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
to
have
some
good
come
up.
This
tragedy.
B
Well,
this
week
we
were
able
to
dedicate
a
new
mobile
testing
unit
at
alma
erie
in
home,
with
highmark
bought
a
new
mobile
vehicle,
and
it
is
in
homewood
all
day
tuesdays
and
thursdays,
and
so
in
many
ways
we
are
now
focusing
on
the
health
of
african
americans,
but
that
health
is
not
just
physical
health,
it
is
financial
health,
it
is
living
health,
and
so
I
want
to,
and
I
will
sound
somewhat
like
a
broken
record.
B
If
we're
going
to
talk
about
race
in
pittsburgh,
there
is
a
scholar
who
just
retired
from
harvard
who
talks
about
the
great
american
city,
dr
wilson,
and
in
his
work.
He
talks
about
that.
The
really
the
real
way
you
can
look
at
america
is
the
chief
way
you
determine
someone's
future
is
by
their
zip
code.
If
you
or
grow
up
in
a
certain
area,
you
are
more
likely
to
be
determined
by
that
zip
code
than
any
single
factor,
even
including
education.
B
A
person
with
you
know
undergraduate
degree
who
was
born
in
homewood
is
going
to
have
less
success
than
someone
without
a
degree
that,
for
instance,
was
born
in
shadyside
because
they
will
have
the
informal
network
and
all
those
other
things,
and
so
we
need
to
now
begin
to
take
seriously
redoing
place-based
interventions
and
making
that
a
priority.
B
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
haven't
done,
it
is
because
it's
expensive-
and
we
are
you
know
too
often
we
are
allocating
money
to
combat
those
communities
in
negative
ways,
whether
it's
public
safety
budget
or
whether
it
is
giving
monies
to
sports
teams,
or
you
know,
a
variety
of
ways
that
we
allocate
money
to
things
outside
those
communities.
We
also
give
money
to
organizations
that
are
not
endemic
they're,
not
inherent
to
those
communities.
B
So
not
only
must
we
put
money
in
rebuilding
those
communities,
we
have
to
build
the
capacity
of
those
communities
to
equally
participate,
and
so
it
becomes
really
important
to
me
now
after
the
kovic
virus
and
it
has
disproportionately
affected
people
of
color
and
disproportionately
affect
the
community
of
colors.
Now,
let's
have
a
serious
policy
conversation
about
how
we
begin
to
change
the
nature
of
our
government,
so
it
begins
to
focus
on
african-americans
in
african-american
communities
to
provide
them
in
scale
with
the
resources.
B
Now
we
know
what
it
looks
like
larmer,
I
believe,
is
an
example
of
what
the
future
of
pittsburgh
can
look
like.
It's
mixed
income
housing.
It
has
some
of
the
highest
educational
levels.
It
has
you
know
every
those
those
residents
have
access
to
jobs,
they
have
amenities,
they
can
walk
to
trader
joe's
and
whole
foods
and
gas
stations
and
grocery
stores
and
drug
stores.
Where,
if
you
live
in
homeboy,
there
is
no
drugstore.
B
There's
only
one
gas
station
on
the
last
block
of
that
community.
There's
no
fresh
food
stores,
there's
no
chain
stores,
there's
no
restaurants,
fast
food,
restaurants,
and
so
there's
no
amenities,
and
that
is
not
accidental.
That
is
the
result
of
systematic
institutional
racism,
and
so,
if
we're
serious
that
we've
now
said
it
exists
and
now
versus
serious
about
combining
that
we
as
a
city
will
provide
the
resources
through
our
partners,
local
state
and
federal
government.
To
now
rebuild
those
communities
put
back.
B
The
amenities
that
those
residents
deserve-
and
I
am
I
am-
I
am
on
a
mission
to
make
that
a
reality.
A
Can
we
unpack
a
little
bit
the
example
of
llama
that
you
raised
here?
I
do
think
it's
an
excellent
example
for
folks
to
consider
in
a
number
of
ways.
This
is
a
small
neighborhood
right
next
to
homewood
that
has
about
1750.
A
You
know
maybe
1800
people
max
in
it,
but
they've
been
extraordinarily
successful
from
a
community
organization
standpoint,
community
leadership,
standpoint
policy
and
development
standpoint.
Can
you
just
speak
about
how
all
this
has
come
to
be
because
it's
not
just
been
a
matter
of
of
a
policy
change?
There's
been
a
lot
of
community
activity.
B
Well,
there
is
an
organization
that
I
think
explains
the
process.
We
took
the
process
and
embedded
in
something
called
the
help
initiative.
So
if
you're
watching
this
live,
if
you
go
to
h-e-l-p-p-g-h
dot,
org
you'll
find
these
principles.
Okay.
The
first
thing
is
to
do
community
collaboration
right.
You
have
to
come
together
and
that
community,
under
the
alarm
consensus
group,
came
together
and
drafted
an
idea
which
became
a
vision
plan
of
what
they
wanted,
the
community
to
look
like,
and
so
that's
the
second
thing
collaboration
and
then
to
build
a
vision.
B
The
residents
themselves
build
a
vision
of
what
they
want
their
community
to
look
like
right,
the
third
of
all,
then
you
put
capacity
in
local
organizations
and
so
they
got
to
participate,
and
then
you
find
the
capital.
In
this
case
we
got
a
federal
gov
grant
from
hud
a
hud
choice
grant
to
build
300
houses
in
that
neighborhood,
along
with
the
amenities.
So
it's
not
just
housing,
but
we
also
invested
in
amenities
a
brand
new
park.
It's
also
going
to
become
one
of
the
most
ecologically
friendly
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
B
He
also
is
you
want
to
build
closest
to
strength.
You
don't
want
to
build
in
the
heart
of
the
community.
You
want
to
build
on
its
fringes
closest
to
amenities,
and
so
with
four
phases.
It's
about
300
homes
and
those
residents
are
are
moving
from
are
moving
into
a
mixed
income
neighborhood
for
the
first
time
now
in
about
50
years,
there's
the
private
market.
In
larmer,
we
put
this
public
investment.
B
B
They
will
all
succeed,
and
so
that's
I
think,
the
heart
of
how
black
communities
can
reinvent
themselves
is
strategically
invest
in
their
edges,
closest
to
strength
at
scale,
providing
them
with
new
housing
and
all
the
amenities
they
need
to
be
successful.
And
so
that's
really
my
my
again.
My
mission
and
marmara
is
the
example
that
we
built
the
health
initiative
of,
but
we've
been
now
doing
that
model
in
the
communities
that
were
in
five
of
the
seven
or
eight
communities
I
represent.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a.
I
find
myself
pointing
to
larmer
fairly
often
when
I
talk
about
community
work.
When
I
worked
at
the
home
of
children's
builders.
That
was
really
my
first
introduction
to
some
of
the
community
leaders
that
you
know
well
reverend
in
the
community
and
I
remember
very
distinctly.
A
I
was
at
this
this
meeting
at
the
kingsley
association,
it's
kind
of
a
large
community
center
and
athletic
facility
there
with
a
long
crowd
history
worth
looking
up
as
well
as
alarmer
consensus
group
worth
looking
up
for
folks
to
get
an
idea
of
how
this
is
unfolded
and
the
conversation
was
around
green
infrastructure
and
they
had
a
number
of
hydrologists
there
and
then
professionals
in
that
space
to
talk
about
gray,
water,
reuse
and
cisterns
and
and
these
principles
that
I
started
to
learn
through
my
time
at
the
village,
because
we
were
looking
at
other
kinds
of
projects
in
homewood,
and
I
was
I
was
just
learning
a
lot
about
it,
and
I
was
astonished
because
you
had
all
these
experts
there
in
this
meeting
in
larva,
and
they
didn't
say
a
word.
A
It
was
the
residents
themselves
that
got
up
and
spoke
chapter
and
verse,
so
to
speak
with
specificity
and
detail
about
how
they
had
installed.
You
know
a
cistern
at
their
house
and
had
been
able
to
use
it
to
reduce
their
their
monthly
bills
and
had
used
it
for
a
garden.
Here's
pictures
of
the
garden
we've
been
learning
about
this
and
it
just
really
impressed
upon
me
this
idea
that
the
leader
I
was
working
with
at
the
time.
A
Fred
brown
talked
about
this
idea
by
raising
the
iq
of
a
community
around
issues
and
it
was
honoring
them
as
the
subject
matter.
Experts
as
they
learned
over
time,
and
it
was
a
truly
profound
experience
for
me
and
they
they
did
a
lot
of
great
stuff
there
and,
as
you
point
out,
reverend
they're,
not
in
phase
one,
are
they
they're,
they've
moved
quite
a
lot
here.
B
B
But
it
is
the
I
think,
the
the
first
fruits,
the
first
tangible
fruit
to
see
what
can
happen
when
a
community
comes
together
and
the
city
brings
all
the
resources
to
bear
at
scale.
I
think
you're,
seeing
something
similar
in
homewood.
I
think
home
becomes
the
next
great
opportunity
on
the
east
side
to
build
a
new
business
district.
B
We
have
the
plans
to
build
a
brand
new
business
district
and
housing
dell,
howard
avenue
connecting
it
to
north
point
breeze,
and
I
think
that
that
would
perhaps
be,
in
my
opinion,
those
two
things
if
we
are
able
to
finish
the
project
that
we're
working
in
the
north
green
breeze
corridor
and
connect
them
seamlessly
with
the
busway
to
the
homewood
priority
development
activities.
So
someone
gets
on
the
bus
way
whether
they
go
up
the
north
korean
breeze
or
down
the
homewood.
B
A
I
appreciate
that
I'd
like
to
get
back
to
the
policy
here,
just
one
quick
sec
question
about
your
respective
districts.
You
know
anecdotally.
In
my
experience
I
was
having
some
conversation
with
colleagues
in
different
sectors
in
our
foundation,
community
and
and
like
neighborhood
level,
and
what
they
were
experiencing.
What
I've
experienced
is
that
it
seems
like
folks,
are
communicating
more
within
with
like,
inter
community
and
intro
community,
there's
more
check-ins
that
are
taking
place.
A
Folks
are
reaching
out
proactively
to
hear
how
they
might
be
able
to
get
involved,
trying
to
figure
out
what
basic
needs
are,
how
to
meet
gaps
and
stuff
like
that.
Are
you
all
feeling
compared
to
other
times
in
your
history,
that
the
community
is
a
little
bit
more
connected
these
days
and
has
there
been
a
chance
for
for
those
like
those
communications
to
take
place
at
a
higher
level.
C
In
many
respects,
I
think
they're
they
there.
That
has
been
the
case.
I
can
tell
you
in
the
hill
district,
there's
a
weekly
call
on
mondays,
actually,
where
all
stakeholders
just
sort
of
get
on
the
call
to
check
in
whether
it's
a
social
service
provider,
whether
it's
kirk
holbrook
over
at
pitt,
whether
it's
macedonia,
phase
myself
and
just
local
residents,
to
check
in
to
say
who
needs
assistance.
This
individual
is
in
need
of
some
extra
meals.
C
This
week
we
have
this
opening
up,
and
so
the
crisis
sort
of
created
a
situation
where
people
actually
had
to
come
together
to
check
in
on
one
another
to
figure
out
who
needs
what
what
assistance
can
be
provided,
and
so
it's
become
a
really
wonderful
tool
for
our
community.
B
B
And
so
I
think
what
you're
seeing
is
a
new
emphasis
which
I
don't
think
will
go
away
after
this
on
social
media
using
zoom
and
facebook
and
youtube
and
those
devices
that
you
know
the
heart
of
african
americans,
probably
until
now
did
not
utilize,
but
I
think
now
that
you're
seeing
them
utilize
it
as
a
necessity.
A
So,
let's
talk
about
policy.
You
guys
mentioned
that
you
on
city
council
has
addressed
racism
as
a
public
health
crisis,
and
you
were
also
involved
with
the
stop
the
violence
initiative
last
a
year
which
takes
it
takes
a
focus
on
violence
prevention,
intervention
work
again
through
a
public
health
lens.
Can
we
can
you
speak
about
this,
about
these
two
initiatives
and
and
the
public
health
framing,
especially
rick
councilman
burgess?
A
You
mentioned
that
earlier
in
your
career,
you'd
seen
this
work
and
had
helped
like
institute
it
here
in
pittsburgh,
but
this
new,
this
public
health
framing
and
like
the
the
connection,
seems
to
be
a
bit
of
a
new
element
to
the
conversation.
Can
we
speak
about
why
that
framing
is
so
important
and
then
why
it's
important
to
specifically
name
racism.
B
You
administrate
what
councilman
level
to
start.
Let
me
just
start
to
say
that
the
public
health
dimension
of
violence
has
always
been
to
those
of
us
who
do
the
work.
B
There
is
the
fact
of
the
violence
prevention
model
that
is
being
utilized
by
the
operation,
better
block
that
the
city
mayor's
office
just
invested
in
that
actually
used
that
that
public
health
model
it's
been
around
a
long
time,
I
think
what's
changed,
is
our
understanding
that
racism
itself
is
a
public
health
crisis
that
the
violence
we
have
is
a
subsection
of
the
institutional
racism.
It
is.
B
B
And
so,
if
we
are
going
to
now
stop
violence,
we
cannot
do
it
in
isolation.
We
have
to
also
stop
the
underlying
conditions
that
cause
the
violence,
the
lack
of
resources,
the
lack
of
investment,
the
lack
of
quality
education,
the
lack
of
economic
opportunity,
the
lack
of
affordable
housing,
and
so
what
you're?
B
Seeing
now,
I
think
more
clearly
is
us
working
in
concert
with
the
other
resources
necessary
to
make
violence
go
away
and-
and
I
think
we've
been
successful,
but
we
need
to
continue
to
do
more
and
hopefully,
as
we've
heard
from
our
constituents,
they
want
to
see
more
resources
given
to
the
prevention
effort
there
are
I
mean
I
can
talk
about
this,
I
think
about
this
stuff
every
day
there
are.
You
know
these
these
ways
of
stopping
of
making
change
in
terms
of
violence.
B
There
are
prevention,
intervention,
police,
persecution,
prosecution,
incarceration
and
reintegration.
So
we've
put
over
the
last
20
years
the
bulk
of
the
money
90
of
the
money
into
policing
into
prosecution,
and
in
incarceration
we
put
90
of
the
money
in
that
area.
We
have
not
put
the
money
into
prevention,
intervention
and
reintegration,
and
so
what
I
think
has
to
happen
is
that
has
to
be
flipped
over
time.
You
have
to
start
seeing
more
of
the
resources
going,
because
what
you
which
you
invest
in
is
what
you
prioritize
right.
B
If
you
prioritize
policing
you're
going
to
see
more
arrests,
if
you
pull,
if
you
prioritize
incarceration,
you'll,
see
more
jails
and
more
people
in
jails
right.
B
But
if
you
put
money
into
prevention,
intervention
and
reintegration
programs,
then
you'll
see
that
have
its
impact,
where
you'll
have
less
arrests,
less
problems,
and
that's
really
the
challenge
to
now
over
time
figure
out
collectively
how
we
can
move
resources
from
that
draconian
sort
of
punishment
model
into
a
prevention
intervention
model
and-
and
I
think
at
the
heart
of
the
protest-
that's
really
what
they're
trying
to
say
they
don't
necessarily
do
policy
or
articulate
that
way.
A
Yes,
this
is,
and
councilman
level
I'd
like
to
view
the
way
in
here
as
well
and
and
majestic
and
lindsay
too.
This
is,
I
think,
of
an
important
point
to
stick
with,
because
when
you
introduce
this
public
health
framing
it
starts
to.
A
It
starts
to
clear
up
how,
from
a
sense
of
priority
to
your
point,
reverend
resources
and
funding
can
be
diverted
or
increased
in
other
ways,
and
if
you
are
and
you
you
said,
the
word-
persecution,
meaning
prosecution,
but
I
think
that
that
term
is
absurd
with
all,
because
I
think
in
some
in
many
ways
these
systems
have
been
persecuting
folks.
Yes,.
A
Communities
of
color
persecuting
poorer
communities.
What
have
you
and
now
the
public
health
conversation
allows
us
to
have
this
transition
in
our
thought
of
how
we
move
from
systems
that
persecute
to
systems
that
provide
care
and
not
just
themselves,
but
in
the
other
ecosystem
of
organizations
and
services,
mental
health,
training
of
basic
needs
that
can
be
brought
to
bear
to
care
for
folks
and
and
to
take
a
different
frame
to
it
all
together,
councilman
labelle.
What
are
what
are
your
thoughts
here?
A
You
know
on
this
on
these
systemic
thinkings
and
and
the
public
health
racing.
Racism
is
public
health
work
that
you've
been
involved
with.
C
So
I
want
to
pick
up
a
point
when
we
talk
about
the
prevention
as
opposed
to
the
persecution
or
the
prosecution
of
our
community.
I
had
a
conversation
with
one
of
our
commanders
commander,
raglan
on
the
north
side,
and
he
gave
me
an
example
of
when
we
talk
about
defunding
the
police
and
how
to
begin
changing
this
around.
C
They
must
then
show
up
and
now
they're
put
in
a
bad
situation
where
they're,
interacting
with
the
10
11
12
year,
old
child
and
all
they've
essentially
been
trained
to
do
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
put
that
child
in
handcuffs
and
remove
them
from
the
home
and
what
he
talked
about
was.
We
should
not
be
put
in
that
scenario
of
someone
with
specific
social
service
training,
someone
with
mental
health
training.
C
So
it's
not
a
conversation
of
okay,
defund,
the
police,
so
that
they're
not
able
to
do
what's
necessary,
but
it's
rather
fund
them
in
an
appropriate
way,
but
also
put
resources
into
our
social
service
into
our
mental
health,
so
that
they're,
the
ones
addressing
that
child
and
now
we're
not
seeing
on
the
news,
a
child
walking
away
and
being
put
in
handcuffs.
I
think
that's
the
conversation
that
we
need
to
be
transitioning
and
need
to
be
having
as
we
move
forward.
A
Yeah
yeah
and
powell
this
is
directly
related
to
thinking
around
the
new
office
and
some
of
the
moves
made
by
the
administration
to
start
putting
resources
in
this
direction.
Now.
D
Yes,
exactly
and
I'll,
let
chief
powell
talk
more,
but
I
think
you
know
the
example
that
councilman
level
gives
is
the
kind
of
sole
purpose
that
we
are
often
looking
for
police
to
serve
in
a
variety
of
means
in
a
variety
of
ways
that
they're
not
best
skilled
to
serve
and
when
you
have
community
disinvestment
from
a
broad
sense,
not
looking
anyone
in
particular,
but
community
disinvestment.
You
may
not
have
the
same
organizations
or
people
on
the
ground
that
can
act
as
intercessors
into
situations
and
communities
in
the
ways
that
may
be
helpful.
D
So
for
that
example,
instead
of
someone
in
a
community
being
called
to
kind
of
relate
to
that
young
person,
because
they
know
that
young
person
now
the
police
are
being
called
as
a
moment
of
fear,
right,
they're
called
and
being
brought
in
to
compel
this
young
person
to
to
go
to
school.
And
we
know
that's
just
not
the
makings
of
a
healthy
environment.
D
And
we
know
that
over
time
that
young
person
that
continues
to
have
these
interactions
with
the
police,
based
upon
issues
around
not
listening
to
their
parents
or
not
going
to
school,
has
an
outsized
impact
on
how
they
engage
with
the
criminal
justice
system
and
how
they
engage
in
institutions
going
forward.
So
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
is
one
model
of
saying.
We
acknowledge
that
there
are
places
that
need
to
be.
D
You
know
unique
community-facing
people
community
engaged
folks,
folks
with
the
proper
training
folks
with
access
to
services
and
people
who
can
help
actually
kind
of
rebuild
the
the
patchwork
in
the
fabric
of
how
community
interacts
with
each
other
versus
carceral
systems
or
versus
like
calling
in
people
who
are
not
appropriate
to
call
in
to
solve
many
of
the
situations
we
see
or
that
they
did.
D
We
also
need
people
on
the
ground
who
are
doing
a
lot
of
the
great
work,
a
lot
of
people
doing
a
lot
of
great
work,
which
is
why
councilman
burgess
mentioned
our
partnership
with
with
the
hillman
family
foundations,
to
invest
more
into
operation,
better
block
to
to
complement
some
of
the
services
that
they
do
in
thinking
about
race,
public
health
and,
and
you
know,
kind
of
violence
as
a
public
health
model,
because
we
acknowledge
that
these
things
are
are
time
tested
and
it
real
it
like.
D
D
So
if
it's
violence
in
the
community,
if
it's
violence
with
the
police,
if
it's
the
outcomes
of
covet
based
on
the
the
pre-existing
conditions
that
are
also
part
of
the
challenges
that
exist
in
the
communities
that
that
councilman
level
and
councilman
burgess
are
talking
about
it
all
ties
back
up
into
the
same
challenge.
It
all
ties
back
up
into
the
structure
of
institutional
structural
racism
that
is
perpetuated
in
systems,
often
that
we
are
all
challenged
by
right
and
we
sometimes
unknowingly
pass
on
they're
people
who
knowingly
pass
those
systems
on.
D
So
here
is
a
time
of
reckoning
where
we
have
to
have
the
conversations
about
things
that,
before
a
lot
of
people
were
not
having,
and
sometimes
we
were
having
in
a
much
different
kind
of
conversation.
So
I
think
what
you
see
and
what
we
all
recognize
and
we're
all
trying
to
move
on
as
a
practical
model
of
then
how
things
go
to
change,
because
we
know
these
things,
there's
been
a
lot
of
books.
D
There's
a
lot
of
people
get
paid
to
talk
about
it,
but
the
also
the
key
is,
from
a
from
a
municipal
perspective
being
closest
to
people.
How
do
we
unite
and
align
ourselves
with
people
who
are
thinking
many
of
the
same
things,
to
advance
these
things
and
take
a
look
at
our
institutions?
Look
at
our
resource
distribution
and
look
at
our
policy
change
in
order
to
engage
them
all.
A
Thank
you,
chief
pal
you've
been
involved
in
these
discussions
around
what
this
office
can
look
like
and
some
of
the
structure
can
you
can
you
walk
us
through
some,
some
of
the
thinking
there
and
some
of
the
intent.
E
Yeah,
absolutely,
I
think,
lifting
up
what
others
on
this
call
have
said.
E
Truly,
the
idea,
if
you
had
to
boil
it
down
to
a
sentence,
is
that
the
first
responder
that
comes
to
a
crisis,
whatever
that
may
be,
should
be
the
right
responder,
and
so
we
often
rely
on
public
safety
to
answer
the
crises
of
other
systems
that
have
failed.
My
colleague
laura
dragowski,
who
is
our
critical
communities
manager
talks
about
this?
Often
where
we've
we
as
a
society,
have
leaned
on
public
safety
to
answer
issues
within
human
services.
E
If
you're
talking
about
problematic
substances,
if
you're
talking
about
teaching
plans
point
an
unruly
child
or
truancy
or
issues
within
schools,
if
you're
talking
about
mental
health,
oftentimes
public
safety
is
expected
to
respond
to
all
of
these
different
crises,
crises
without
the
proper
training
and
nuance
to
do
so.
So
how
do
you
shift
from
a
model
that
goes
from
having
officers
respond?
Who
are
trained
again
in
the
public
safety
lens
to
officers
that
are
able
to
respond?
Who've
been
trained
as
public
health
servants?
E
So
these
would
be
our
social
workers,
our
community
folks,
our
intake
people,
so
that
when
something
happens,
we're
not
leaning
on
the
criminal
justice
system
and
unduly
putting
people,
and
particularly
black
people
within
the
system
we're
shifting
to
a
model.
That's
responsive
and
reflective
of
what
that
person
needs.
E
And
so
the
idea
of
the
office
of
the
community,
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
will
be
exactly
that
that
we're
building
an
office
that's
able
to
revert
away
from
officers
and
public
safety
officials
being
the
ones
to
be
first
on
the
scene
to
one
where
we're
relying
on
community
members,
social
workers,
community
caregivers,
to
respond
to
the
issues
that
are
disney.
A
I
appreciate
it
I
mean,
even
in
the
the
the
example
that
councilman
labelle
lifts
up.
I
think
it's
such
a
great
a
great
example,
because
you
know
you
have
this
where
a
police
officer
is
responding,
but
what,
if
this
was
more
of
a
family
support,
responder
right
or
someone
that
was
trained
specifically
to
do
the
kinds
of
engagements
and
provide
care
you
know
to
to
that
child
or
to
that
family?
A
A
couple
things
I'd
like
to
lift
up
here,
because,
while
this
is
a
not
a
new
conversation
for
government,
is
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
and
movement
around
this.
Now,
there's
a
couple
of
ways
or
organizations
where
this
is
already
kind
of
happening
in
a
couple
of
the
districts
that
are
mentioned
here
on
the
call.
So
the
group
values
intervention
work
which
has
been
lifted
up
here,
that
everyone
on
this
call
has
been
involved
with.
In
some
ways
these
are
community.
A
They
work
with
members
of
the
community
in
the
violence,
prevention,
intervention,
space
and
the
prevention
side
of
the
spectrum
that
reverend
burgess
was
was
mentioning
and
they
work
with
law
enforcement,
but
they
the
one,
are
the
ones
that
respond
and
and
do
the
triaging.
What
used
to
be
called
focus
pittsburgh.
It
is
now,
I
believe,
the
neighborhood
resilience
project
in
councilman
labelle's
district.
A
Not
only
has
an
rv
that
responds
to
homicides
throughout
the
county
that
assists
with
a
mental
health
first
aid
and
does
connections
with
broader
services,
but
also
now
have
community
health
deputies,
which
are
deployed
or
community
residents
are
deployed
in
their
community
to
do
a
number
of
services,
and
there
are
others
too
that
we
could
that
we
could
point
out
the
the
the
future
here
is
much
closer
than
we
think
in
many
cases,
oh
in
the
center,
that
cares,
reverend
grayson
as
well
group,
violence,
intervention,
work
or
related
work,
and
what's
cool
about
these
experiences
is
not
just
that
the
community
members
are
trained
from
the
community,
how
the
relationships
in
the
community
have
access
to
resources
and
services
so
that,
when
they're
engaging
with
with
their
own
neighbors
that
they're
equipped
for
the
job
they're
also
beginning
to
be
paid,
which
I
think
is
an
important
thing,
and
you
talk
about
reintegration
work,
I
mean
oftentimes.
A
It
ends
up
being
returned
citizens
themselves
that
have
just
the
the
power
of
their
testimony
and
are
able
to
speak
with
with
power
and
truth
and
really
divert
activity
in
a
way
that
that
leads
for
a
better
tomorrow,
council
people
and
and
and
mayor's
office.
Colleagues,
how
do
how
do
with
our
separate
teams
work
together
in
this
season?
What
does
it
look
like
to
cooperate?
A
What
does
it
look
like
to
make
good
on
all
the
enthusiasm
and
energy
of
this
moment,
but
also
get
you
know,
tactical
from
a
policy
and
programmatic
perspective,
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
building
a
better
tomorrow?
So.
B
Let
me
let
me
let
me
use
this
as
opportunity
to
give
you
at
least
one
example,
something
simple
right.
So
we've
all
talked
about
the
group
balance
program.
Everybody
would
agree,
it's
effective,
it's
important
and
it
works.
Yet,
during
the
life
of
the
program,
we
have
funded
it
on
nickels
and
dimes.
B
Those
outreach
workers
are
not
full-time,
they
have
to
work
other
jobs.
So
if
we're
serious
now
about
that
program
and
making
it
different
making
life
different
for
them,
you
know
we
pay
an
average
police
officer,
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It
costs
us
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
officer
in
terms
of
their
benefits,
their
salaries
and
all
that
stuff
right.
We
can
pay
these
outreach
workers,
probably
closer
to
40,
50,
000,
half
half
at
least
half
of
what
their
officers
cost
us,
and
so
my
challenge
to
us
as
a
government.
B
If
we're
serious
about
this
work
and
we're
serious,
that
programs
is
the
way
to
go.
When
then,
the
first
investment
we
should
do
is
to
make
these
outreach
workers
full-time
and
to
fund
it
at
the
close
to
a
million
dollar
level
that
was
called
for
10
years
ago,
when
we
first
had
this
discussion,
but
there
was
never
the
appetite,
but
now
that
we're
in
this
changeable
moment
it
should
be.
I
think
the
first
thing
we
do,
because
one
of
the
things
I
am
concerned
about
is
that
we
put
money
back
into
the
police
department.
B
You
know
that
we
find
a
way
to
say:
okay.
Well,
we
want,
to
you
know,
give
more
resources
to
programming,
but
let's
embed
the
programming
in
the
police
department
right,
let's
give
the
money
to
the
police
to
hire
social
workers.
I
don't
think
so.
B
That
is
by
investing
in
them,
and
so
I
think,
a
way
of
doing
this
work
is
to
prioritize
fully
funding
group
violence,
initiative
programs
so
that
you
can
have
all
full-time
outreach
workers,
full-time
counselors,
embedded
in
the
program
in
order
to
make
a
difference
and
all
the
social
services
needed
to
make
a
difference
in
the
life
of
that
most
at-risk
vulnerable
population.
A
These
are
scenarios
in
which
you
know,
ideally,
these
folks
that
are
themselves
resource
paid
and
equipped
for
the
job
have
the
time
I
remember
when
I
worked
in
the
home
of
children's
village,
this
idea
of
longitudinal
impact
you
want
20
years,
you
know
of
impact,
so
the
idea
here
is
that
you
have
a
fleet
of
community
health
workers
family
responders
that
that
do
these
one-off
engagements,
but
rather
that
these
are
people
with
roots
themselves
that
have
the
ability
to
reap
to
to
build
roots
that
can
walk
along
with
families
and
their
and
their
own
community
over
time
and
invest
directly
into
their
health,
but
those
those
folks
being
invested
in
themselves
and
not
just
with,
as
we
used
to
saying
that
non-profit
money
or
from
non-profit
space
playing
money
as
opposed
to
stay
money.
A
A
The
americorps,
the
folks
that
want
to
get
involved
in
community
that
have
a
sense
of
the
importance
of
community-based
organizations
that
are
getting
the
opportunity
to
add
to
their
own
skill,
set,
add
to
their
ability
to
make
money
and
to
thrive
and
be
successful
by
the
way,
but
add
also
in
their
capacity
to
love
on
others
and
to
and
to
spread
out
that
good
throughout
the
community
and
chief,
majestic
and
lindsey.
What
does
it
look
like
to
work
together
in
this
in
the
season?
What
is
that?
A
What
is
the
relationship
been
like
with
council
during
this
time?.
D
So
I
think
we've
had
a
really
open
and
good
dialogue
with
the
councilman
on
the
council.
Both
councilmans,
the
councilman
lavelle
and
councilman
burgess
have
led
around
this
idea
of
equity.
They've
led
around
the
idea
of
racism
as
a
public
health
issue.
They've
led
around
a
lot
of
these
things
and
we've
been
in
coordination
with
them
as
an
office
of
equity,
to
really
think
about
program,
design
and
kind
of
structural
design
to
move
forward.
D
We
may
not
have
the
disparities
of
a
philadelphia,
a
detroit
or
new
orleans,
but
will
have
the
economic
impacts
of
those
places
right,
because
covid
also
uncovered
really
spoke
to
two
challenges:
not
just
the
health
challenges
and
and
the
pre-existing
conditions,
aka
environments
that
are
making
black
people
sick,
but
also
the
fact
that
you
know
last
hire
first
fired
the
the
idea
that
you're
working
public-facing
jobs,
the
idea
that
you're
working
jobs
that
are
closed
down
due
to
covet
and
the
impacts
of
that.
D
And
while
we
have
seen
you
know
some
of
the
support
come
through
from
the
federal
government
and
through
the
state
to
get
people
access
to
resources,
we
also
do
know
that
those
resources
will
not
be
here
forever
and
those
resources
will
eventually
dry
up,
and
we
already
know
and
understand
that.
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
challenges
around
evictions
and
we're
working
with
our
housing
authority
and
also
working
on
a
project
around
eviction.
Innovation,
along
with
magistrates
and
as
well
as
large
apartment,
complex
holders
and
property
owners
to
really
think
about.
D
What
does
this
look
like
when
the
gates
go
open?
If
you
will
around
people
who
weren't
able
to
pay
their
bills
for
the
last
couple
months
because
of
losing
their
jobs?
So
there's
also
that
larger
challenge
of
the
economic
health
of
people
who
have
been
impacted,
and
I
think
that
the
the
that
the
kovic
commission
and
and
what
the
task
force
will
really
speak
to
a
lot
of
those
challenges
and
paint
the
picture
for
a
lot
of
the
challenges
and
where
people
can
fit
in.
D
Because,
again,
like
I'm
saying
in
systems
thinking,
we
acknowledge
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
fit
in
at
different
times
right,
whether
it's
workforce
thinking
about
contact
tracers,
which
I
know
partner
for
work
and
ccac-
has
been
in
contact
with
the
black
electives.
On
talking
about
that
conversation
or
we're
talking
about
access
to
resources
from
the
state
which
I
know
the
black
elected
officials
have
been
in
conversations
with
the
ura,
bridgeway
capital
and
and
other
folks.
But
it's
really
like
a
situation.
D
You
really
think
about
all
these
kind
of
things.
You
don't
often
get
a
space
to
talk
about
all
the
elements
of
health
right,
the
the
personal
elements
of
health,
the
community
elements
of
health,
but
also
the
economic
elements
of
helping
all
these
things
are
part
of
the
things
that
actually
build
up
one's
capacity
to
be
able
to
be
resilient
right.
D
The
federal
government
is
the
federal
government,
but
you
know
you
really
see
that
people
closest
to
these
situations
didn't
have
to
really
think
about
some
of
these
solutions
for
how
we
move
forward
and
how
we
be
creative
in
this
moment.
Thank.
A
You,
chief
pal,
I
have
a
question
for
you.
We
talk
about
this
idea
of
cooperation
between
the
mayor's
office
and
city
council
between
the
city
council
members
and
in
this
moment
one
of
the
reasons
we're
able
to
do
that
well
is
because
there's
a
new
policy
shop
within
the
mayor's
office
made
up
of
team
members
that
have,
in
some
cases
been
around,
but
also
there's
been
this.
This
intentional
focus
on
putting
this
together.
A
E
Absolutely
so
this
team
they're
fantastic,
they
again
largely
work
in
the
policy
legislative
space,
but
their
our
purpose
is
really
to
ensure
that,
when
we're
thinking
about
these
ideas,
when
we're
talking
about
these
values
and
initiatives
that
we
have,
how
can
we
drill
down
to
make
sure
that
they're
a
actionable
and
be
long
long-standing?
The
policy
team?
E
There
are
five
of
us
on
it,
but
what
we
do
is
we
aid
the
managers
within
the
office
of
equity
and
work
closely
with
council
and
their
staff
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
that
deep
dive.
We
have
folks
within
the
policy
team
that
work.
You
know
largely
the
state
federal
level
at
the
local
level,
but
the
idea
is
to
really
look
at
best
practices
across
the
country,
sometimes
in
in
the
nation,
and
really
figure
out
how
to
make
it
work
for
pittsburgh.
E
So
if
we're
seeing
this
particular
issue
of
council
members,
raise
you
know
an
interest
or
an
issue,
managers
are
working
on
something.
How
do
we
do
that
research
and
that
kind
of
first
wave
of
what's
out
there?
What
are
the
pitfalls
of
unintended
consequences
of
enacting
a
policy
or
supporting
legislation
like
this
and
then?
Secondly,
how
do
you
get
it
done?
E
This
team
is
fueled
by
action,
but
also
we've
taken
the
second
step
of
ensuring
that
when
we
do
talk
about
policy
when
we
do
make
suggestions
to
managers
and
again
council
folk
that
we're
talking
about
racial
equity
and
really
racial
equity,
equity
at
large
is
incredibly
important.
But
if
you're
talking
about
back
to
councilman
burgess's
point
about
how
a
certain
factor
can
dictate
you
know
your
outcomes
in
life
in
pittsburgh.
E
It's
race,
you
know
largely
aided
by
your
zip
code,
but
if
you're
talking
about
how
one
would
maybe
assume
your
ability
to
have
economic
success
or
educational
success
or
you
know,
workforce
success,
it's
largely
determined
by
race,
no
matter
where
you
go.
If
you're
talking
about
the
other
types
of
equity
and
justice
initiatives
that
the
mayor's
office
holds
up.
Gender
equity,
lgbtqia
equity,
if
you
add
that
additional
lens
of
race,
those
particular
people
within
that
intersection,
are
unduly
burdened.
E
So
as
we're
talking
about
legislation
as
we're
talking
about
policies,
we're
talking
about
how
to
make
implementable
strategies,
we
within
the
policy
shop
use
that
racial
equity
lens
as
our
first
you
know
lens
and
ensure
that
what
we
suggest
what
comes
out
of
it
from
there
is
really
trying
to
uplift.
That
particular
lens.
A
Thank
you
so
much
all
right.
Let's
start
to
bring
this
conversation
to
a
close,
there's
so
much.
You
know,
expertise
in
history
on
the
call
we
could
spend
hours
kind
of
unpacking
all
of
it,
but
I'd
like
to
bring
the
conversation
back
just
to
this
moment
that
we're
having
for
the
council
people.
You
know
as
majestic
points
out.
You
know
the
realities
are
on
coven.
A
A
Recently,
the
the
the
murders
and
the
attention
on
police
reform,
and
just
this
racial
moment
that
the
the
world
quite
frankly
seems
to
be
having,
but
certainly
that
we're
having
here
in
pittsburgh
is
also
something
that
people
are
paying
attention
to
and
participating
in
so
councilman
burgess
and
councilman
labelle.
What
are
you?
What
are
you
excited
about
about
the
coming
days
and
weeks?
A
What
gives
you
a
sense
of
enthusiasm
or
a
sense
of
a
sense
of
joy
in
the
midst
of
all
of
this
strife
and
and
and
then
we'll
we'll
bring
it
to
some
some
closing
questions.
C
What
excites
me?
So,
I
think-
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
this
to
be
a
fact,
but
I'm
pretty
sure,
almost
every
day
for
the
last
two
weeks,
there's
been
a
protest
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
they've.
C
All
almost
all
been
very
peaceful,
well,
structured,
well
organized
and
I'm
excited
because
who
I
see
out,
there
is
not
who
I'm
accustomed
to
seeing
I'm
seeing
new
faces
new
bodies,
I'm
seeing
a
multicultural,
multi-ethnic
group
of
citizens
that
are
taking
to
our
streets,
calling
for
justice,
demanding
reforms
that
are
so
needed
for
the
black
community.
C
That
we've
been
saying
are
necessary
for
a
very
long
time,
but
all
of
a
sudden
are
ringing
have
a
new
sound
to
them,
because
sometimes
what
comes
out
of
your
mouth,
although
we're
saying
the
same
things,
might
get
hurt
a
little
differently,
and
so
that
excites
me
and-
and
I'm
sort
of
I'm
thankful
for
that,
because
I
think
it's
providing
a
space
and
opportunity
for
us
to
come
together
us
in
the
administration
to
be
able
to
come
together
to
say.
C
Yes,
we
are
in
this
moment
where
literally
the
world
is
watching
what
elements
across
this
country
do
and
how
we
will
respond
to
these
crises
and
how
we
will
respond
to
the
demands
being
made
upon
us.
And
so
I
actually
think
again
that
we
have
this
sort
of
wonderful
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
good
to
come
out
of
a
tragedy
and
for
us
to
begin
really
healing
and
putting
all
the
necessary
tools
in
place
to
really
begin
uplifting.
The
black
community
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
B
So
let
me
give
you
a
micro
example
that
happened
to
me
on
saturday.
I
was
at
the
office
at
the
church
and
working
on
my
sermon,
which
is
my
facebook
presentation
on
sunday
morning,
and
I
was
there
saturday
late
afternoon
and
so
around
our
church.
B
Half
a
block
from
my
church
on
saturday,
one
of
the
residents
had
a
big
sign,
saying,
happy
birthday
and
I
saw
a
little
girl
surrounded
by
other
little
girls.
She
was
in
a
princess
dress
and
she
had
on
a
tiara
and
I'll
cry.
If
I
talk
about
this
too
much
in
a
place
that
had
been
but
had
been
dangerous
and
desolate,
these
little
girls
are
living
in
amenities
that
are
first
class
of
any
thing
in
our
city
and
they
are
dancing
and
being
little
girls.
B
B
And-
and
so
I
I
cried
a
little
bit
at
that
moment-
and
every
time
I
think
about
it-
is
that
that
to
me
is
the
goal
that
every
every
child
lives
in
clean,
decent,
affordable
housing
and
has
the
access
to
the
amenities
and
opportunities
that
are
allowed
them
and
not
have
bad
outcomes
simply
because
they
were
born
a
certain
color
and
born
in
a
certain
place,
and
so
that
gave
me
great
joy,
great
great
great
joy.
I've
been
thinking
about
every
day
since
then,.
A
I
appreciate
that
and
you
two
are
two
of
the
most
involved
council
people
when
it
comes
to
comes
to
development,
and
you
mentioned
this
idea
of
mixed-use
housing
and
indeed
it
was
through
my
community-based
work,
where
being
at
community
meetings
in
places
like
homewood
and
larmor,
where
I
first
heard
residents
talking
about
hey,
look,
we
can't
affordable
housing
our
way
out
of
this
crisis,
and
that's
not
what
we
want.
We
don't
want
just
endless,
affordable
housing.
A
We
want
there
to
be
a
difference,
and
I
and
I
don't
come
from
that
background,
so
I've
been
trying
to
learn
more
about.
You
know
the
wise
and
wherefores.
Is
it
possible
to
have
to
deliver
on
that
dream
that
you
mentioned
with
the
with
the
little
princess
there?
And
you
know
long
meishi
rain
without
displacing
people
can
can
the
folks
that
say
they
want
to
be
here
in
these
communities.
They
want
to
be
in
pittsburgh.
A
For
this
moment
they
they
love
where
they
live,
can
can
it
be
figured
out
so
that
they
don't
aren't
forced
to
move
if
they
don't
want
to.
B
Well,
that's
why,
if
you
heard
me
talk
about
the
first
step,
the
first
step
is
that
the
residents
themselves
organize
like
and
larmor
organize
themselves
and
write
their
own
community
plan
that
the
city
adopts.
It's
like
in
homewood
we've
already
written
a
community
plan.
Lumber
has
a
community
plan
that
the
residents
himself
themselves
have
said.
This
is
what
we
want
right.
So
that's
number
one.
I
think
number
two
is
the
model.
Is
you
build
affordable
housing?
First?
B
C
But
all
this,
I
think
we
also
have
to
acknowledge-
and
I
think
reverend
burgess
has
done-
that-
that
while
we
physically
build
up
the
community,
we
have
to
invest
in
the
people
themselves
because
we're
only
having
an
affordable
housing
conversation
because
people
aren't
making
enough
to
be
able
to
afford
the
rents
to
afford
the
mortgages,
and
so,
if
we're
not
directly
investing
in
the
people,
if
we're
not
helping
black
businesses
be
established,
if
we're
not
helping
people
actually
build
those
homes.
C
If
we're
not
putting
people
back
to
work,
if
we're
not
directing
actual
dollars
and
cents
into
these
communities,
then
they
will
unfortunately
be
displaced
because
they
won't
be
able
to
benefit
from
the
economic
development
happening
around
them.
And
so
I
just
think,
as
we
have
this
sort
of
policy
conversation,
we
also
need
to
be
very
frank
that
there's
what
we
write
and
then
there's
what
we
do
with
our
actual
budget
and
the
budget
must
reflect
the
intent
of
the
policy
and,
unfortunately,
that
is
not
an
easy
conversation
to
have
in
this
city
right.
C
It
is
not
an
easy
conversation
to
simply
say
we
need
to
be
very
intentional
in
directing
actual
dollars
that
are
historically
have
always
gone
to
these
five
communities
that
they
now
need
to
go
and
directly
building
up
the
people
who
live
in
homewood.
The
people
who
live
in
lambert,
the
people
who
live
in
these
underserved
communities,
and
so
that's
gonna,
be
a
very
interesting
conversation
that
we're
going
to
have
to
have
and
we're
going
to
have
it
publicly.
C
Obviously-
and
it's
also
interesting
because
you
mentioned
this
pandemic
and
unfortunately
the
city
is
not
going
to
have
as
many
as
much
financial
resources
at
our
disposal
as
we've
had
previously
and
so
how
we
to
take
limited
resources
and
give
them
to
those
most
in
need
is
going
to
be
off-putting
and
offsetting
to.
C
I
would
bet
many
of
my
colleagues
right,
and
so
we
just
have
to
be
honest
about
this,
and
we
will
need
to
have
that
conversation,
but
we
just
need
to
be
very
intentional
that
building
the
buildings
is
great,
but
if
we're
not
investing
in
the
people,
it's
all
for
not.
E
No,
I
mean
absolutely
agree
and
to
the
point
about
how
do
we
you
know
like
what's
next
frankly,
black
people
are
tired
like
these.
This
is
not.
You
know
a
conversation,
that's
new
to
any
of
us,
we're
talking
about
access
to
wealth
and
capital
access
to
housing
in
opportunity-rich
neighborhoods,
if
you're
talking
about
people
in
equal
access
to
education,
opportunities
like
this
is
all
stuff
that
both
councilman
and
chief
lane
have
been
working
on
for
quite
some
time.
E
And
so,
if
we're
talking
about
what
I'm
excited
about
again
cautiously,
because
that's
my
nature,
if
we're
talking
about
what
we're
excited
about
it's,
it's
that
commitment
to
black
communities,
that
commitment
to
real
change,
that
commitment
to
equity
and
to
the
point
of
how
we
do
that,
it's
council,
the
mayor's
office
and
the
administration,
putting
together
a
policy
and
a
budget
that
reflects
exactly
that.
And
so
you
know,
while
we're
elated,
to
have
these
conversations
with
the
councilmen.
E
There
are
so
many
others
that
needs
to
be
at
the
table
across
the
city
to
make
sure
that
that
vision
comes
to
bear.
A
And
chief
lane,
I
would
be
curious
on
who
you
think
you
know
comprises
that
larger
table.
I've
heard
you
discuss
these
issues
in
a
philanthropic
sense
in
a
community
based
organization
and
development
sense
and
in
a
policy
sense.
Who
are
the
stakeholders
that
we're
referring
to
and
what
are
your
thoughts
there.
D
Well,
I
think
it
goes
back
to
this
idea
of
everyone
is
playing
their
part,
but
knowing
that
systems
interlock
to
keep
people
in
situations
of
harm,
so
systems
have
to
interlock
to
keep
people
in
a
situation.
So
one
of
the
challenges
in
pittsburgh,
when
it
chooses
to
does
this
very
well,
is
come
together
to
figure
out
what
is
the
what
is
the
bigger
goal
and
then
what
is
everyone
doing
towards
the
end
of
that
goal?
D
What
we
often
find
is
individuals
are
working
in
their
silos
to
do
their
thing,
so
if
philanthropy
is
advancing
what
they
think
about
from
their
vision
from
their
board
or
if
the
county
is
advancing,
what
they
think
about
from
with
their
vision,
if
our
corporate
leadership
is
advancing,
what
they
think
about
from
their
vision,
if
we're
advancing
what
we
think
about
from
our
vision,
all
these
things
are
good,
but
the
question
is:
is
there
a
pathway?
The
question
is:
is
there
a
connection?
D
Is
there
that
network
that,
from
the
time
a
person
thinks
about
trying
to
get
opportunity
that
we
created
up
we've
created
spaces
for
that
opportunity
to
bloom
or
is
there
are
the
opportunities
there
which
in
some
senses
they
are
but
they're
disjointed?
Are
the
opportunities
there,
but
they're
not
at
scale
to
to
what
reverend
talked
about.
D
If
someone
wants
to
develop
their
physical
home
is,
are
their
resources
and
that's
a
conversation
in
itself
right,
so
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
around
a
rusathon
and
really
putting
roof
in
a
fundamental
element
of
putting
roofs
back
on
the
the
homes
of
people
who
own
their
homes,
because
we
acknowledge
that
sometimes
that
cost
is
a
huge
cost
and
especially
in
this
time
now
something
like
your
roof
going.
Bad
is
something
that
then
has
an
impact
on
your
ability
to
sell
your
house.
D
It
has
the
ability
to
get
refinanced
right,
so
these
are
kind
of
my
example
of
the
system.
So
you
are
a
in
alignment
with
upmc
and
some
other
folks
was
an
example
of
a
good
private.
Public
partnership
has
really
there's
been
some
money
to
make
sure
people
could
remove.
D
What
we're
talking
about
when
people
see
an
enhanced
quality
of
life,
you
know
it.
When
you
see
it
we'll
create
metrics.
We
can
talk
about
all
those
kind
of
things,
but
fundamentally
people
know
when
they
see
opportunity.
They
know
when
they
see
the
ability
to
go
to
their
employment
center
and
be
able
to
find
a
job
or
the
access
to
get
to
ccac
and
and
get
an
education
or
the
access
to
go
to
pitt
or
their
access
to
resource
access
resources.
D
People
know
what
that
looks
like
right,
and
so
we
have
to
be
thoughtful
and
saying
all
the
different
institutions
are
thinking
about
this.
What
does
this
look
like
right?
What
does
this
grand
picture
really
look
like
it,
and
and
how
do
we
get
there?
Once
we
acknowledge
what
it
looks
like,
so
it's
one
of
those
things
that
we
have
to
build
physical
capital,
but
we
have
to
build
human
capital
right
just
as
examples
of
what
councilman
burgess
and
councilmember
talked
about.
We
have
to
build
both
of
them
right.
D
We
have
to
be
acknowledging
that
the
development
of
human
capital
development
of
of
of
brick
and
mortar
are
they
go
along
with
each
other.
They
are
totally
aligned.
They
have
to
be
aligned
because
again
in
healthy
systems,
those
those
are
aligned
right.
So,
but
if
they're
not
aligned
in
our
system,
then
it's
not
going
to
be
healthy.
If
you're
saying
do
this
stuff
over
here,
but
don't
do
this
right
solve
that
solve
the
the
violence
problem,
but
don't
solve
the
job
problem.
D
You're,
not
it's
not
going
to
work,
because
if
you
don't
solve
this,
if
you're
not
working
on
solving
the
job
problem,
the
violence
problem
will
always
be
there
right.
So
it's
really
for
us
now.
The
challenge,
I
think,
is
how
do
we
get
out
of
the
silos?
How
and
and
that
means
that
everyone's
in
charge,
aka
no
one's
in
charge,
right
and
acknowledging
and
being
okay
with
what
that
looks
like
in
real
time
and
pittsburgh
has
done
it
we've
chosen
to
so.
D
It's
really
now
about
the
collective
will
to
be
able
to
work
together
to
break
down
those
silos
for
the
benefit
of
not
just
all
the
black
presidents
in
the
city
of
every
resident
in
this
city,
because
to
be
clear,
if
black
people
are
doing
good
everyone's
going
to
do
better
right.
That
is
not
a
you
know.
There's
the
moral
component
of
this
then
there's
the
actual
economic
component
of
this,
which
says,
if
you
want
to
make
the
city
better.
A
We've
seen
that
in
the
housing
sense,
we
can
see
that
in
examples,
perhaps
in
law
enforcement
in
development
and
things
along
these
lines,
and
then
the
question
then
becomes
can
systems
these
systems
and
others
conspire
for
the
good,
and
I
think
the
answer
is
yes.
I
think
we've
actually
mentioned
some
examples
of
where
that's
been
the
case,
both
historically
and
recently
here
in
pittsburgh.
A
But
then
to
your
point
chief
lane,
you
know
what
does
it
really
look
like
to
have
a
community
conversations
where
those
silos
are
are
suspended
and
we
get
down
to
talking
about
what
we're
all
finally
talking
about,
which
is
the
benefit
of
folks
that
are
living
here
in
this
in
this
community
and
in
this
city
and
as
the
the
testimony
of
the
council
people
will
attest.
You
know
once
you
start
getting
down
to
the
neighborhood
level.
A
It
starts
being
a
small,
relatively
small
number
of
people
and
there's
an
ability
for
leaders
to
engage
directly
with
residents
for
residents
to
make
their
voices
heard
and
examples
for
each
of
those
folks
or
levels
on
best
practices.
What
can
work
with
work
in
other
neighborhoods?
What
you
can
then
do
to
organize
to
make
your
voices
heard
and
how
to
folks
who
move
things
towards
progress,
and
I
am
quite
frankly,
feeling
relatively
encouraged.
It's
been
an
emotional
rollercoaster
in
a
lot
of
ways.
A
A
I
hear
corporate
entities,
government
entities,
organizations
speaking
out
and
in
many
cases
specifically
naming
racism
and
specifically
putting
their
chips
on
the
table
to
say
here's
what
we're
willing
to
commit
to
seeing
a
better
tomorrow,
I'd
like
to
just
bring
the
conversation
to
close
with
just
some
final
encouragements,
what
you
all
would
say
as
black
people,
two
black
people
and
just
the
folks
that
might
be
watching
in
terms
of
their
own.
A
In
terms
of
their
own
progress
and
lives
right
now,
what
would
you
like
them
to
know
about
city,
council
or
just
about
your
own
leadership,
and
how
would
you
encourage
them
to
to
navigate
councilman
mobile?
Let's
start
with
you,
sir.
C
I
would
I
would
encourage
them
to
stay
engaged,
however
best
they
can.
I
think
director
lane
mentioned
it
when
we
sort
of
all
work
in
our
silos,
but
we
all
have
important
jobs
and
whatever
that
silo
may
be,
and
I
would-
and
I
would
just
encourage
them
to
stay
encouraged,
to
keep
pressing
on
as
relate
specific
to
council.
I
would
encourage
them
to
hold
us
accountable
to
call
us
to
email
us,
both
myself,
reverend
burgess,
but
not
just
us,
but
our
colleagues
as
well.
C
They
also
need
to
hear
what
message
is
being
asked
from
the
black
community
but
work
to
hold
us
accountable,
and
we
will
do
our
best
and
it's
certainly
my
intent.
I
believe
it's
reverse
content
and
I
believe
it's
the
intent
administration,
that
we
are
going
to
do
our
absolute
best
to
uplift
and
rebuild
and
create
a
very
strong
and
thriving
african-american
community.
B
We
want
those
who
make
sure
that
you're
staying
safe,
that
you're
social
distancing
that
even
though
we
are
going
green,
there's
still
a
problem,
in
particular
those
who
are
african-american
over
70
you're,
the
highest
risk
and
she
should
take
even
greater
precautions.
So
that's
number
one
number
two.
You
can
call
us.
You
have
my
phone
number
four
one,
two,
two,
five,
five,
two
one,
three,
seven,
you
can
call.
We
are
still
answering
those
phones
and
if
there's
a
need
that
you
have,
we
will
try
to
meet
your
need.
B
Third
of
all,
let's
look
at
moving
forward
together
to
do
the
things
that
we
chatted
about,
which
is
creating
a
community
plan
in
all
of
our
communities
of
color
and
make
them
communities
of
choice.
And
so
when
we
get
together
and
plan
our
communities,
then
I
believe
that
you
will
have
the
vision
of
the
plan
of
how
to
move
forward
and
then,
lastly,
we
need
to
come
together
as
a
black
community
around
plans
for
a
specific
community
and
make
it
a
priority.
A
Thank
you,
sir
chief
lane.
D
We
are
having
new
conversations
well
we're
having
old
conversations
in
new
ways.
Let
me
say
that
we're
having
conversations
that
we've
been
having
but
we're
having
them.
That
is
allowing
us
to
have
a
broader
dialogue
for
those
who
are
interested
in
what
that
broader
dialogue
looks
at
stay
involved,
look
at
how
these
systems
are
intertwined
in
in
and
work
together,
but
know
that
you
are
heard.
You
know,
do
a
lot
of
this.
Obviously
people
often
will
think
go
ahead
and
change
it
and
it'll
change.
D
However,
you
know
I
heard
I
heard
a
term
last
night
on
the
a
show
that
white
supremacy
is
a
long-term
project
right,
and
so
you
know,
while
it
may
shift
it's
a
long-term
concept
right.
D
So
we
have
to
really
think
about
the
long
term
as
well,
and
while
we're
engaged
in
the
short
term
to
move
things,
stay
involved
in
the
long
term
and
stay
again
collaborating
coming
together
and
acknowledging
whether
the
shared
vision
and
the
shared
interest
and
the
shared
intent
of
making
sure
that
the
quality
life
for
black
people
here
improves,
and
it
is
amongst
the
best
in
the
city
and
in
the
world,
not
because
it's
not
just
enough
to
say
look
what
we
just
did
that
that
that's
on
us
too.
D
It's
not
just
enough
to
say
here's,
this
money
or
here's.
This
thing,
it's
really
about.
Are
you
better
off
and
if
you're
not
better
off,
then
it's
not
working
if
you're
better
off,
then
it's
working
right
and
that's
what
we
need
to
hold
ourselves
to
and
that's
what
we
need.
Just
all
the
citizens
of
our
city
and
people
who
love
the
city
and
love
humanity
to
hold
hold
us
to
and
hold
themselves
to.
A
Thank
you,
sir
chief
lane
or
powell.
E
I
mean
I
I
just
would
quickly
want
to
add
to
the
point
of
the
longevity
of
these
conversations.
Is
you
know,
as
we
move
to
2021
and
2022
and
onward
that
we
continue
to
center
our
black
neighbors
and
black
community?
If
we're
talking
about
equity?
If
we're
talking
about
justice,
it's
centered
in
ensuring
that
neighbors
that
haven't
been
a
part
of
these
conversations
haven't
been
at
the
table,
haven't
been
able
to
invest
directly
into
their
neighborhoods
and
communities
are
at
the
forefront
of
our
thoughts
and
our
processes.
E
That's
several
points
made
throughout
this
conversation
that
we're
thinking
again
about
the
ways
that
systematically
black
residents
black
neighbors
have
been
held
back
and
held
at
different
standards,
and
that
when
we
build
when
we
move
forward
as
a
city
that
we're
thinking
again
about
those
residents
lifting
up
their
voices
and
centering
their
issues
and
concerns
with
what
we
do.
A
Thank
you
so
much
well.
Thank
you,
each
of
you
for
your
time
to
unpack
some
of
these
important
ideas.
I
shared
a
little
bit
about
your
own
testimony
and
work.
It's
greatly
appreciated.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
there
are
two
asl
interpreters
that
have
been
along
for
the
ride.
Thank
you
all.
You
know,
folks.
We
don't
all
often
have
talking
points
for
these
conversations.
A
We
try
to
let
them
be
as
organic
as
possible
and
honor
the
the
history
and
the
track
records
of
the
folks
that
that
join
us,
and
that's
not
always
the
easiest
thing
for
folks
that
are
offering
their
services
to
help
interpret.
So
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
nicholas
and
logan
today
for
their
for
their
work,
a
little
bit
of
a
thank
you
and
good
job
and
please
keep
tuned
with
the
mayor's
office
here.
A
We're
gonna
continue
to
have
these
conversations
and
unpack
these
ideas,
and
I
hope
that
you
feel
encouraged.
Having
heard
this
conversation
because
there
are
leaders
in
this
region
that
are
not
only
listening
but
they're
active
and
they're
engaging-
and
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
examples
raised,
there's
a
lot
of
really
encouraging
things
to
take
a
look
at
and
ways
to
move
forward
together,
reverend
burgess-
I
saw
my
dad
yesterday
for
father's
day
and
we
had
a
nice
meal.
A
I
know
you
know
each
other
well
and
we
were
talking
about
the
story
that
you'll
be
familiar
with,
which
is
one
where
there's
two
friends
walk
past
a
a
man,
that's
experiencing
homelessness
and
the
man
that's
experiencing
homelessness.
Ask
them
for
for
all
and
ask
them
for
money
and
there's
this
moment
where
they
say
in
response.
You
know
silver
and
gold.
Have
I
not,
but
what
I
have
I
give
unto
you
and
it
ends
up
being
a
transformational
event
for
that
person.
A
That's
experiencing
homelessness,
and
we
were
talking
about
this
idea
of
this
story
as
people
being
willing
to
give
what
they
have
to
put
their
chips
on
the
table
and
to
say
look.
I
may
not
have
this
expertise
that
may
not
have
this
institutional
power,
but
what
I
have
here
and
here
and
and
being
willing
to
do
that,
can
make
all
the
difference,
and
I
think
that
that
is
really
what
we're
talking
about.
A
With
this
conversation,
folks
in
different
lanes,
people
in
city,
council,
people
in
the
mayor's
office,
people
in
policy
people
in
philanthropy
people
in
community
all
having
this
conversation,
all
paying
attention
and
saying.
Well,
I'm
willing
to
put
what
I
have
on
the
table
and
if
we
believe
in
that-
and
we
speak
with
a
with
a
common
language
about
what
we
want
nothing's
going
to
be
with
help
from
us.
And
so
thank
you
to
each
of
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
and
then
to
all
that
are
watching.