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From YouTube: Equity Series: Learn & Earn
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The Office of Equity, My Brother's Keeper, and Partner4Work staff discuss how the summer youth employment program, Learn & Earn, is pivoting for the new normal and how equity in workforce development for our young people remains a priority during and after the pandemic for the City of Pittsburgh.
A
Good
afternoon
happy
Monday,
my
name
is
Josiah
Gilliam
and
I'm.
The
my
brother's
keeper
coordinator
in
Mayor
Bill
Peduto
his
office,
and
this
is
the
latest
in
an
ongoing
series
related
to
life
in
Pittsburgh,
city
of
government
activity,
equity
and
realities
stemming
from
koban,
19
and
I.
Have
the
distinct
pleasure
of
talking
with
two
of
my
favorite
people,
quite
frankly
in
the
city
and
people
I
think
do
fascinating
work
and
what
we're
going
to
talk
today
is
about
workforce
development
and
the
city
and
County's
workforce
development
program
for
youth.
A
B
C
Everyone
thanks
so
much
for
having
me
I'm,
Susie,
Pushkar,
I'm,
the
chief
program
officer
with
partner
for
work
or
the
workforce
development
board
for
Allegheny
County
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
so
we
run
programs
that
help
people
get
connected
into
employment
and
help
businesses
find
the
talent
that
they
need.
In
order
to
be
able
to
succeed,
we.
A
C
Absolutely
so
partner
for
work
is
the
workforce
development
board
for
Allegheny
County,
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
what
that
means
is
that
we
are
the
federally
recognized
entity
to
receive
federal
workforce
dollars
for
this
region,
we're
one
of
about
350,
workforce
development
boards
across
the
United
States
and
one
of
22
boards
within
the
Commonwealth
of
Pennsylvania.
So
there's
enabling
legislation
at
the
federal
level
called
the
Workforce
Innovation
and
Opportunity
Act.
We
are
sorry
we,
oh,
we,
oh
is
our
own
law
and
what
that
that
law
does?
C
Is
it
allocates
funding
to
local
communities
based
off
of
the
number
of
people
in
those
communities
who
are
unemployed?
Who
are
looking
for
work
areas
of
substantial
unemployment?
So
it's
that
sticky
and
persistent
unemployment
as
well
that
they're
looking
at
when
they're
looking
at
those
funding
streams,
and
then
we
also
have
funding
available
specifically
for
individuals
who
are
ages
16
to
24.
C
So
we
talked
a
lot
about
opportunity:
youth,
those
are
young
people,
ages,
16
to
24,
who
aren't
employed
or
or
enrolled
in
education,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
we
run
programs
and
we
fund
programs
that
help
those
people
get
the
training
that
they
need
in
order
to
be
able
to
get
connected
into
career
pathways
and
find
jobs
that
help
them
make
a
living
wage.
So.
A
You
mentioned
that
this
is
a
city
and
county
wide
effort.
That's
going
to
be
important.
We
talk
about
learner
in
a
little
bit,
but
when
you
also
mention
that
this
is
also
related
to
federal
funding
up
at
the
now
level,
is
it
often
the
case
that
you
see
a
city
and
county
wide,
Workforce,
Investment
Board,
so.
C
We're
a
little
bit
of
a
unique
bird
in
the
workforce
development
world
because
we
have
two
local
areas
that
are
overseen
by
one
board.
We
have
funding
that's
specific
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
has
to
be
used
to
help
city
of
Pittsburgh
residents,
and
we
have
funding
that
is
specific
for
Allegheny
County
outside
of
the
city
that
has
to
be
used
for
County
residents.
There
are
a
lot
of
boards
that
are
multiple
County
local
areas.
C
A
good
example
right
next
door
to
us
is
the
Westmoreland
Fayette
Workforce
Development,
Board
overseas
funding
and
opportunities
for
Westmoreland
County
and
Fayette
County.
There
are
boards
in
the
center
of
the
state
that
have
six
different
counties
and
in
their
local
area,
but
because
of
the
populations
of
Pittsburgh
and
Allegheny
County
and
the
size,
and
it's
really
manageable,
for
one
board
to
be
able
to
oversee
both
of
those
funding
streams.
What.
C
That's
a
great
question:
our
most
visible
partner
in
the
region
is
the
PA
CareerLink
system
and
we
fund
one
component
of
programs
in
in
PA
CareerLink,
and
so
there's
a
PA,
CareerLink
downtown
and
there's
one
in
Forest
Hills
and
someone
who
is
looking
for
work
or
looking
for
funding
for
training
can
go
into
PA
Carew
link
and
enroll
in
services
and
the
the
programs
that
we
fund
out
of
CareerLink
can
can
help
them
attach
to
the
workforce.
We're
one
partner
in
the
career
link.
The
state
is
also
a
partner
literacy.
Pittsburgh
is
a
partner
OVR.
C
The
office
of
vocational
rehabilitation
is
a
partner
and
all
of
these
entities
come
together
and
provide
a
one-stop
system
for
jobseekers
on
the
youth
employment
side.
Then
we
work
with
a
lot
of
neighborhood
organizations
within
Allegheny
County
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
phase.
Four
Learning
Center
is
one
of
our
biggest
partners
on
the
out-of-school
youth
side.
They
help
young
people
who
have
dropped
out
of
school,
get
their
high
school
diploma
and
get
connected
into
what
comes
next,
we'll
res
car.
C
Some
of
those
are
our
youth
providers
and
they're
all
available
on
our
website,
which
is
partner,
the
number
for
work
org
and
we
also
help
in-school
youth,
so
youth,
who
are
still
in
high
school
persists,
while
they're
in
high
school
and
then
get
connected
to
college
and
career-readiness
resources.
We
work
with
about
twelve
different
providers
on
the
year-round
programming
side
on
the
the
in-school
youth
side.
So
in
the
county
we
work
with
organizations
like
the
Human
Services
Center,
but
in
the
city.
A
It's
interesting
because
two
of
the
organizations
in
my
work,
history
have
partnered
with
you
all
in
some
form
or
fashion
to
to
engage
with
youth,
and
it's
been
interesting
because
Workforce
Development
is
a
huge
topic
in
the
city
and
in
the
region,
and
some
of
that
has
to
do
with
attracting
and
retaining
talent.
So
I
think
here
about
like
the
universities,
for
example,
you
know:
how
are
they
marketing
to
an
international
audience?
How
are
they
bringing
talent
here?
How
are
they
getting
trained
and
then
how
are
they
retained?
A
Are
they
are
they
staying
and
joining
us
here
in
the
Allegheny
County?
And
yet
a
lot
of
the
work
that
you
do
speaks
to
this
idea
of
ladders
of
opportunity
to
talent
that
is
already
here
trying
to
engage
with
organizations
that
serve
adults
and
youth
here
in
the
region.
So
when
you,
when
you
think
about
workforce
development-
and
that's
in
that
sense,
how
do
you
explain
how
you
go
about
the
kind
of
relationship
building
and
the
engagement
with
youth
and
families
that
are
there
necessary
for
you
to
be
successful?
Yeah.
C
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
ignore
the
people
who
are
inside
of
our
region
and
who
were
born
here
and
so
what
we
like
to
do.
Is
we
like
to
say
that
we
need
to
build
the
talent
that
we
have
here
and
open
up
opportunity,
networks
for
families,
for
young
people
and
for
businesses
in
the
region
to
make
sure
that
the
businesses
have
the
talent
that
they
need
and
the
young
people
have
the
opportunity
to
go
into
those
jobs?
And
we
know
that
someone
who's
born
in
Pittsburgh
is
more
likely
to
stay
in
Pittsburgh.
C
Frankly,
a
lot
of
times
than
someone
who
who
comes
here
from
another
city
in
the
United
States
or
from
an
international
location
because
they
have
those
family
ties
here.
That's
a
really
important
component
of
this
and
so
making
sure
that
the
young
people
and
the
families
have
access
to
opportunity
within
their
neighborhoods
and
within
their
schools.
In
many
cases,
is
really
important
to
what
we
do
and
when
we
invest
in
organizations
who
are
helping
to
serve
families
within
our
community.
C
We're
looking
at
bringing
workforce
development
dollars
from
bringing
workforce
development
opportunity
to
organizations
who
already
have
really
strong
structures
in
other
cases,
and
so
with
an
organization
like
home
with
Children's
Village.
That
has
a
face
of
programming
to
really
connect
young
people
and
pre-k
and
Families
into
the
resources
that
they
need
on
the
early
childhood
side
of
the
house
and
then
serve
young
people
as
they
go
through
elementary
and
middle
school.
C
Then,
when
we
come
in
and
are
able
to
fund
programming
in
high
school,
we're
building
off
this
continuum
of
opportunity
that
goes
from
cradle
to
career
and
that
really
helps
to
cement
the
relationships
that
are
in
existence
and
build
trust,
because
individuals
need
to
be
able
to
trust
the
organization,
that's
providing
them
with
those
services
and
that's
important
to
us.
I.
A
Love
the
term
opportunity
Network,
because
I
think
that
that
really
well
exemplifies,
like
it
illustrate
the
idea
that
we're
talking
about
Tiffany.
Let
me
bring
it
to
you
very
quickly.
Can
you
speak
to
this
conversation
from
from
the
mayor's
office
and
from
the
office
of
equity,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
intersections
at
play
when
you
think
about
this
topic,.
B
So
she
had
an
internship
where
she
was
working
at
a
local
museum,
and
so
she
got
to
take
other
kids
and
lead
them
through
some
of
the
different
displays
and
talked
to
them
and
kind
of
assist
them
in
different
ways.
She
got
to
earn
money,
so
I
think
that
that's
another
thing,
so
she
really
was
able
to
you
know
bring
some
money
home
to
her
family,
but
also
to
be
able
to
purchase
things
that
she'd
wanted
and
really
to
kind
of
build
that
work
experience.
So,
in
an
equity
standpoint,
I
think
we
are
engaging
youth.
B
You
know
that
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
employment.
Otherwise
it's
it's
very
difficult
for
kids
under
the
age
of
you,
know,
16
or
18,
to
be
able
to
find
employment
and
to
be
able
to
get
those
skills
that
they'll
need
in
the
future.
So
you
know
I
think
it's
it's
something
that
touches
on
so
much
of
the
work
that
we
do
around.
You
know
making
sure
that
people
have
fun
so
they're
able
to
be
economically
independent.
B
Youth
are
able
to
get
experience
and
it
builds
on
really
helping,
as
Suzy
said,
helping
those
folks
that
are
actually
in
the
city
get
the
experience
that
they're
going
to
need.
You
know
when,
when
they're
done
with
school
and
they're
looking
for
a
job
or
they're,
you
know
finishing
college
and
they're
looking
into
new
career
options,
yeah.
A
It's
a
it's
a
great
point,
because
you
know
one
hand
you
could
you
could
look
at
Summer,
Youth
Employment
as
meeting
basic
needs
in
many
cases?
That's
exactly
what
it
is,
but
it's
also
about
our
trajectory.
It's
about
introducing
individuals
to
the
idea
of
a
career
to
the
idea
of
of
B,
of
like
looking
at
yourself
as
as
a
as
a
collection
of
skill
sets
that
you
can
grow
over
time
and
that
it
lets
you
engage
with
different
entities
over
over
the
course
of
your
life
through
and
in
a
lot
of
cases
and
I
know.
A
Certainly
my
own
experience
working
with
youth
that
we're
participating
in
summer
learning,
which
is
what
we're
going
to
dive
in
two
years.
Next,
is
that
many
cases
their
first
work
experience
it's
their
first
time
that
they're
signing
up
for
a
job
with
an
employer,
and
it's
kind
of
like
a
first
foray
into
that
into
that
conversation.
So,
let's
just
dive
right
in.
Let's
talk
about
learning,
earn
and
Susie.
A
C
Of
course,
extra
Ziya
so
learn
and
earn
is
a
partnership
between
Allegheny
County
and
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
partner
for
work
and
about
six
years
ago.
Each
of
those
entities
had
their
own
Summer,
Youth,
Employment,
Program,
and
so
a
young
person
who
is
interested
in
Summer
Youth
Employment,
had
to
go
to
one
of
three
different
locations
or
a
business
that
needed
to
hire
young
people
over
the
summer
might
have
to
go
to
three
different
entities
in
order
to
be
able
to
find
the
talent
that
they
need
a
provider
who
gives
some
of
these
summer.
C
And
so
with
these
three
entities
combined
and
with
the
support
of
many
local
foundations,
including
the
Pittsburgh
foundation,
AT&T
Highmark,
Foundation,
the
youth
services,
investment
fund
of
the
Pittsburgh
foundation
and
the
Macauley
foundation.
Then
we've
been
able
to
grow
a
program
that,
in
a
typical
year,
serves
about
1900
to
2000.
Youth,
and
your
point,
Joe
scientifically,
was
is
really
important.
That
53
percent
of
the
youth
last
year,
who
participated
and
learn
and
earn
were
14
or
15
years
old.
C
But
until
you
actually
start
to
work
and
show
up
on
time,
learn
what
it
means
to
make
a
paycheck
or
to
earn
a
paycheck
and
learn
what
you
need
to
know
about
how
to
read
a
paycheck
and
how
much
of
your
money
goes
to
taxes
and
what
you
need
to
budget
for.
All
of
those
are
really
important
skills
that
that
you
learn
in
your
first
job
and
so
throughout
the
program
in
its
history.
Then
we've
really
prioritized
making
sure
that
you
have
the
opportunity.
Young
people
have
the
opportunity
to
learn
those
skills
on
the
job.
C
A
C
A
A
Sounds
like
just
such
a
great
opportunity
and
and
and
one
for
younger
people
to
take
advantage
of,
whereas
other
opportunities
might
get
gobbled
up
by
folks
that
are
older
Tiffany.
Can
you
speak
from
a
communications
perspective?
What
the
approach
has
been
to
make
people
aware
of
learner
and
how
we
engage
with
organizations
to
get
that
message
out.
B
Poor
thing
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
partner
for
work
does
a
really
good
job
with
is
working
with
community
partners
to
get
the
word
out
directly
into
schools
and
I
think
that's
a
unique
way.
I
mean.
Obviously
this
year
is
a
little
bit
different
with
schools
closed
and
having
to
go
more
into
just
doing
virtual
outreach
so
making
sure
that
we're
getting
it
out
on
our
city,
social
media
channels
or
passing
it
out
to
community
partners
we're
partnering
with
other
groups.
B
The
city
works
with
like
the
welcoming
Pittsburgh
group
and
just
making
sure
that
they're
able
to
disseminate
it
to
their
communities.
The
other
thing
that
we've
been
doing
this
summer
is
they've.
We've
been
getting
the
word
out
for
a
grab-and-go
meal
sites,
so
we
know
families
are
stopping
in
to
get
meals
at
our
rec
centers
and
other
community
locations,
as
well
as
its
for
look
at
our
public
schools
were
passing
out
that
information
when
they
were
giving
out
homework,
packets
and
meals
at
their
locations.
B
So
looking
you
know
this
year
was
obviously
different
than
previous
years,
but
just
making
sure
or
that
we're
getting
the
word
out
to
those
families
in
the
community
and
even
those
folks
in
the
community
who
may
not
have
used,
but
you
know,
may
know
of
youth
in
their
neighborhoods
or
in
their
families.
That
can
use
this
type
of
program
over
the
summer.
Yeah.
A
It's
been
extraordinary
to
see
so
I've
participated
in
a
couple
of
the
food
distributions
through
city
parks,
to
your
point,
at
some
of
the
rec
centers
and
pretty
early
on,
it
became
a
super
parent
that
this
was
also
a
point
that
we
could
leverage
to
bring
more
information
to
our
families
and
in
to
our
neighbors
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
to
spend
passed
out
around
the
census,
for
example,
and
and
learn
or
twos.
That
folks
are
made
more
aware
what
of
what's
available
Susie.
A
C
Absolutely
so
the
the
Lorne
interim
website
is.
C
So
there's
a
number
on
our
website
that
you
can
call
and
get
help
filling
out
the
application
this
year.
You
can
also
call
one
of
our
application
support,
centers
all
of
the
Carnegie
libraries,
our
application
support
centers
and
can
help
fill
out
applications.
There
are
also
a
number
of
application
support
centers
throughout
the
city.
The
Bloomfield
Garfield
corporation,
face
for
many
other
neighborhood
based
organizations
serve
application,
support
centers
to
help
youth
fill
out
their
application.
C
So
we
try
to
get
the
the
word
out
through
those
application
support
centers
and
through
the
network
of
learn
and
providers
throughout
the
region.
We
also
work
closely
with
organizations
like
remake
learning
and
the
Allegheny
Intermediate
Unit
to
spread
the
word
out
through
their
networks
and
city
council
and
the
mayor's
office
have
been
really
wonderful
to
help
share
the
word
about
the
program
and
to
help
make
sure
that
their
constituents
know
how
to
apply
for
the
program
as
well.
That's.
A
Terrific
so
there's
been
a
global
pandemic,
that's
taking
place,
and
it's
required
a
lot
of
innovation,
a
lot
of
quick
thinking
and
a
lot
of
pivoting.
So
let's
talk
about
this
summer
coming
up,
what
is
the
approach
bin
and
what
what
new
things
or
which
is?
What
are
we
looking
at
for
this
year?
Summer?
Learning
are
absolutely.
C
So
the
learner
and
application
opened
on
March
16th,
which
was
right
when
the
stay
at
home
order
for
Allegheny
County
was
implemented,
and
the
learning
earned
committee
is
made
up
of
two
members
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
two
members
appointed
by
Allegheny
County,
two
members
appointed
by
partner
for
work
and
then
a
seventh
member
who's
voted
on
by
those
those
six
people
and
that
committee
started
to
meet
bi-weekly
right
after
the
stay
at
home.
Order
went
in
place
in
order
to
say
how
do
we
pivot
this
program
this
year?.
C
Frankly-
and
we
didn't
want
to
do
that
because
we
recognize
that
that
we
have
some
tools
available
to
us
and
we
thought
we
could
create
new
tools,
and
we
also
felt
like
this
program
is
incredibly
important
in
any
year,
but
this
year
in
particular
to
help
young
people
earn
a
wage
over
the
summer,
and
so
this
summer
we
expect
that
about
25%.
Although
that
number
keeps
shifting
every
day
as
we
get
into
the
green
phase
about
25
percent
of
the
work
sites
will
still
be
in
person
work
sites.
C
C
They
can
take
a
class
at
CCAC
or
they
can
take
a
class
at
carlow
university
and
earn
college
credits
while
they're
still
in
high
school.
Those
classes
are
moving
online
and
the
work
experience
and
the
project-based
work
that
the
young
people
will
do
to
complement
their
tutoring
in
their
class
time.
Those
projects
will
be
made
virtual,
and
so
things
like
working
on
unshared
problems
and
working
on
communication
efforts,
for
instance,
are
things
that
can
be
done
in
a
virtual
environment.
C
We
also
have
an
organization
that
we
partner
with
a
burly,
and
they
have
an
organization
that
they
will
place
you
with
called,
never
fear
being
different
and
that
young
people
in
those
opportunities
will
learn
how
to
be
a
leader
online
and
how
to
have
a
social
footprint
online.
That
is
positive
and
that
helps
spread
communication
in
a
in
a
positive
way
and
in
the
end,
the
kind
of
message
in
the
information
that
that
young
people
are
trained
to
do
in
that
program
is
eventually
to
monetize
their
social
media
presence
and
to
learn.
C
So
we're
really
excited
about
the
different
projects
that
we
have
that
are
available
in
the
different
partnerships
that
we
have
this
year,
we're
also
working
with
the
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools
summer,
dreamers
where
youth
can
have
some
academic
enrichment,
they'll,
be
participating
in
and
then
do
project-based
work.
That's
that's
related
to
that
academic
enrichment,
so
building
apps
and
building
entrepreneurship
plans
and
business
plans.
We
think
there's
going
to
be
something
for
everyone
this
year.
That's.
A
Extraordinary,
how
much
of
this
do,
you
think,
constitutes
a
bit
of
a
new
normal
moving
forward,
because
I
think
virtual
programming
has
been
a
bit
of
a
dream,
quite
frankly
for
a
lot
of
organizations,
and
certainly
nothing
back
to
learn
on
projects.
I
did
with
youth
over
six
weeks
back
when
I
worked
at
the
home
of
Children's
Village
and
there
wasn't
really
a
chance
to
engage
virtually
with
them.
Now
we
had
some
great.
A
You
know
there
were
no
restrictions
on
in-person
activity
at
the
time
and
we
were
able
to
engage
with
local
artists
or
other
organizations
and
make
what
we
we
thought
was
a
pretty
robust
experience
come
to
life,
but
now,
given
that
there's
been
this
crisis
and
folks
have
been
forced
to
pivot,
is
this?
Is
this
a
little
bit
more?
What
the
future
is
going
to
look
like
to
some.
C
Degree
yes
and
the
tools
that
we're
building
now
the
online
work,
readiness
tools
that
will
be
available
to
young
people,
the
project-based
work
tools.
Those
are
things
that
we
see
having
a
life.
Long
beyond
learning
are
in
this
summer,
and
we
also
know
that
we
are
all
still
working
differently
than
we
did
12
weeks
ago
and
so
being
able
to
have
meetings
over
zoom
and
make
sure
that
you're
paying
attention
and
not
doing
something
on
your
phone
is
a
really
important
skill.
C
But
I
had
to
learn
as
a
sessional
adult
and
something
that
will
build
into
the
learning
and
experience
this
summer.
And
so
those
communication
tools
that
young
people
will
be
using
on
their
project-based
work
are
all
things
that
I
anticipate
that
that
remote
work
is
going
to
become
part
of
our
reality
moving
forward
and
maybe
not
full
time.
C
Remote
work
like
a
lot
of
people
have
been
doing,
but
certainly
when
we're
talking
about
split
schedules
and
some
people
working
from
home
some
days
and
then
others
going
into
the
office
on
those
days
and
not
being
able
to
gather
in
groups
of
more
than
25
or
250
or
whatever
it
may
be.
All
sorts
of
things
are
changing
and,
as
we
see
the
the
workforce
changing
and
some
of
those
things
being
persistent
and
sticky
changes
then
learn
and
will
change
to
adapt
for.
A
Both
of
you
just
curious
what
your
thoughts
are
when
it
relates
to
the
concept
of
equity
and
workforce
development
and
and
specifically
learn
and
earn
what
thoughts
come
to
mind
as
it
relates
to
the
equity
implications
or
importance
of
this
exact
conversation
and
Tiffany
I'd
like
to
start.
Let's
start
with
you
from
inside
the
office
of
equity,
yourself
sure.
B
Way
it's
giving
those
youth
who
may
not
have
access
that
on-ramp
into
trying
something
that
you
know.
Maybe
no
one
in
their
communities
or
their
families
have
done
before.
I
think
we're
also
getting
used
into
job
settings
that
are
gonna,
give
them
the
lifelong
skills
that
they're
going
to
need.
The
social-emotional
skills.
A
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
is
that
summer
learning
has
an
outsize
impact
on
black
youth
in
the
city
and
in
the
county.
It's
a
switch
to
you
Susie.
How
about
you,
when
you
think
of
the
term
equity?
What
do
you
find
yourself
talking
about
or
having
conversations
about
when
it
comes
to
learner
development,
yeah.
C
Absolutely
so
learn
and
learn
is
a
program
that
serves
about
85%,
youth
of
color
and
those
are
predominantly
black
youth
in
that
youth,
color
space
and
it's
an
incredibly
important
program
to
build
those
opportunity.
Networks
and
as
a
young
white
person,
growing
up
and
I
was
able
to
get
jobs
because
of
my
parents
and
who
my
parents
knew
and
when
you
have
a
parent
who
is
able
to
open
those
doors.
For
you,
that's
a
really
kind
of
easy
way
of
getting
into
the
workforce.
C
A
lot
of
the
young
people
that
work
as
part
of
learn
and
earn.
Don't
have
those
connections
into
the
workforce
or
don't
have
parents
who
work
in
jobs
that
have
have
these
career
pathways
within
them.
And
so
in
order
to
be
able
to
build
those
opportunity,
networks,
those
career
pathways
and
to
introduce
new
careers
into
the
kind
of
mindsets
of
youth.
Who
may
only
see
certain
career
pathways
available
because
they
see
them
on
TV
or
because
they
know
a
nurse
who
works
in
their
neighborhood
or
their
mother
is
a
CNA.
C
A
Terrific,
so
I
have
a
couple
questions
related
to
this
idea
of
Workforce
Development,
and
we,
the
three
of
us,
have
participated
in
many,
a
community
conversation
about
this
and
I'm
thinking
of
panels
that
that
we've
been
able
to
take
in-
and
you
know-
certainly
this
is
a
front
of
mine
topic
for
a
lot
of
leaders.
Other
people
in
the
allegheny
conference
in
our
private
sector
talk
about
workforce
development,
talk
about
youth,
employment
opportunities,
I've
heard
the
mayor,
certainly
in
a
county
executive
as
being
a
primary
priority
for
them.
Folks
are
nonprofit
space.
A
But
what
you
really
have
is
is
the
specificity
that
comes
to
mind.
These
are
individual
youth
that
are
engaged
individual
young
people
that
are
getting
a
paycheck
they're
earning
a
paycheck
to
participating
in
a
Summer,
Youth,
Employment
Program
and
that's
anything,
that's
an
engagement
opportunity
right
and
some
of
the
organ
is
some
of
the
conversations
I've
heard
about
this.
It's
kind
of
like
the
spider-man
meme
of
everyone,
pointing
to
each
other
about
like
success
in
this
space
or
improvement,
is
looks
like
you
doing
a
better
job.
A
Well,
we
really
need
more
funding
from
this
level,
so
I'd
like
to
I'm
wondering
Suzy.
What
does
what
does
the
future
look
like
and
if
we
wanted,
if
we
were
to
say
we
want
to
to
double
the
impact
of
summer
learning
earth?
What
would
that
look
like
and
who
would
need
to
be
involved
to
make
that
happen?
Yeah.
C
That's
a
great
question,
so
there
are
really
three
nodes
to
this
learning
triangle
that
are
important.
When
we
talk
about
how
many
youth
are
employed
this
summer,
one
is
funding
and
do
we
have
funding
to
support
more
youth
and
so
to
double
the
amount
of
youth
that
we
fund
every
year
or
are
able
to
employ
every
year
we
double
the
funding,
because
we
have.
You
know
one
thing
that
the
learning
program
does
that
a
lot
of
Summer,
Youth,
Employment
programs
across
the
country
don't
do
is
that
all
of
the
jobs
are
subsidized.
C
So
without
the
support
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
without
the
support
of
Allegheny
County
without
the
funding
partner
for
work
puts
in
and
Foundation
dollars,
then
we
couldn't
employ
these
youth
because
we
we
need
the
money
to
be
able
to
do
so.
So
that's
one
thing.
The
second
kind
of
node
to
this
triangle
is
the
work
experience
opportunities
for
those
young
people.
So
we
really
need
local
businesses
to
step
up
and
say
I
want
to
employ
a
young
person.
C
C
But
if
we
can
kind
of
amplify
each
of
those
nodes,
then
we
could
double
the
program
in
size
and
scope
and
that
really
does
have
a
huge
effect
down
the
line
of
if
a
young
person
when
they're
14
builds
the
skills
that
they
need
to
be
successful
in
the
workplace,
because
your
first
job
is
where
you
learn
to
show
up
on
time
and
to
take
accountability
and
to
do
the
thing
that
you
weren't
asked.
So
if
you,
your
boss,
says
okay
I
need
you
to
do.
X,
Y,
&
Z,
and
you
finish
it
early.
C
What's
the
next
thing
that
you
can
do
in
order
to
show
that
initiative,
those
are
skills
that
don't
just
come
naturally
to
people.
You
have
to
actually
practice
those
skills
and
learn
when
do
I
do
something
and
when
do
I
kind
of
hold
back
and
ask
for
help.
So
all
of
that
happens
during
your
first
job.
When
you,
you
practice
those
skills,
and
we
would
love
to
do
that
for
more
young
people.
Yeah.
A
It's
an
extraordinary
opportunity
to
engage
with
the
pure
potential,
that's
represented
in
our
young
people
Tiffany
year.
One
is
someone
that
I
go
to
often
when
it
comes
to
just
a
development
in
general,
when
you
think
about
this,
this
age
window,
let's
say
like
your
14
year
old,
15,
16
from
a
developmental
perspective
and
from
a
potential
perspective.
What
comes
to
mind
for
you
in
terms
of
what
opportunity
is
here
or.
B
So
I
think
you
know
it's
that's
it's
a
very
interesting
time
in
your
life
and
I
think
we
can
all
kind
of
go
back
to
that
time.
Where
you
know
you,
you
feel
like
you're
grown
up,
but
you're
still
a
kid
and
you
want
to
be
independent,
but
you
know
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
at
play
and
that
age,
fruit,
but
I,
think
you
know
having
job
experience
at
the
age
of
14
or
15
and
being
able
to
go
into
a
workplace.
B
I
mean
it's,
it
can
be
scary,
that's
a
scary
time
to
go
in
there's
a
bunch
of
strangers.
You
don't
know
them,
but
you
know
just
seeing
my
ment.
He
go
through
the
program
and
kind
of
hearing
what
she
thought
of
it.
You
know,
and
she
said
she
was
nervous.
The
first
couple
times
she
went
and
she
didn't
know
what
it
was
gonna
be
like,
but
she,
when
she
got
to
make
new
friends
and
she
got
to
make
friends
with
people
who
were
older
than
her
senior
citizens.
B
B
Something
that
you
know
it
allows
us
youth
to
test
out
their
independence
gain
new
skills,
but
it's
in
a
supportive
environment
that
is
supported
by
partner
for
work
they're,
getting
those
job,
readiness
skills.
They
know
they're
with
an
employer
who
wants
to
wants
to
work
with
youth,
so
I
think
that's
the
other
piece
and
I
think
the
one
thing
that
we
we
don't
always
bring
up
in
this
conversation
is
that
this
is
very
valuable
for
those
workplaces
as
well,
because.
B
Come
in
and
they're
getting
it
a
perspective,
you
know
I
when
I
was
that
age,
you
know
we
didn't
have
cell
phones
or
you
know
we
had
dial-up
internet,
and
so
you
know
the
youth
that
are
that
are
today.
You
know
they
have
such
a
different
experience
than
we
have
all
had
and
so
being
able
to
learn
from
use
and
being
able
to
understand
their
perspectives
helps
our
businesses
and
organizations
be
able
to
serve
the
community
in
a
better
way.
Yeah.
A
It's
really
well
pull
it
and
I
and
more
recently
there
can
be
sometimes
a
tendency
to
discount
something
that
may
sound
ambiguous
or
esoteric
like
social
media
skills
or
or
internet
skills
as
something
that
is
just
you
know
when
young
people,
let's
hop
on
those
platforms,
and
that's
why
they're
good
at
it,
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
value
in
it,
but
it
represents
you
know
before
good
or
bad
or
otherwise.
It
represents
a
familiarity
of
a
certain
type
of
architecture.
A
That's
important
in
the
world
today
to
be
able
to
have
an
effective
and
engaging
social
media
presence,
means
that
you
have
someone
familiarity
with
the
pieces
at
play
and
an
ability
to
execute
on
tasks
to
make
that
the
case,
and
it
is
not
that
folks
need
to.
You,
know,
trying
to
pivot
their
operations
to
social
media,
but
there
can
still
be
value
in
engaging
with
with
someone
who
just
has
that
skill
set.
That
could
be
someone
in
their
40s.
A
That
knows
how
to
do
it,
but
it
also
could
be
something
that
a
younger
person
can
help
you
with,
even
though
that
might
not
seem
obvious
at
first
because
of
the
familiarity.
That's
the
the
sheer
amount
of
time
spent
engaging
with
technology
engaging
with
the
current
state
of
media,
whether
that's
social
media
or
like
the
youtubes
and
whatnot
in
the
world,
and
it
can
be
useful
speaking
with
a
couple
friend
of
mine.
A
They
own
an
international
now
like
distributed
ecommerce
and
software
company,
and
they
have
been
absolutely
extraordinarily
busy
and
it's
been
all
hands
on
deck
moment
because,
as
you
might
imagine,
folks
have
looked
for
ways
to
pivot
their
operations
online.
And
it's
actually
some
of
the
examples
that
you
raised
earlier.
A
Suzy,
restaurants,
that
are
very
good
at
running
your
business
that
don't
have
a
way
to
accept
online
orders,
and
they
have
folks
that
they're
there
they're
these
tickets
that
are
coming
in
and
everyone
from
their
CEO
down
to
the
newest,
employee
or
employer
or
employee
is
helping.
These
businesses
figure
out
how
to
establish
a
facebook
presence,
how
to
establish
an
e-commerce
store.
A
How
to
establish
this
and
that
the
good
news
for
them
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
tools
that
are
available
now
to
help
them
do
this
that
make
it
easier
than
all
the
coding
that
might
have
been
necessary,
even
five,
six
seven,
eight
nine
ten
years
ago.
But
yet
that's
what
businesses
right
now
we're
trying
to
figure
out
and
so
I
wouldn't
want
folks
to
kind
of
discount
how
how
absolutely
valuable
that
could
be!
And
that's
the
one
note
right.
You
talked
talking
about
the
employers
themselves
and
what
they
can
provide.
A
Suzy
I'm
curious
on
how
you've
encouraged
workplaces
to
think
about
the
experiences
that
they're
providing
for
youth,
not
just
in
terms
of
what
they're
getting
out
of
it
in
terms
of
a
great
young
person
that
can
help
them
with
X,
Y
or
Z.
But
how
are
investing
into
this
opportunity
for
the
young
person?
How
are
they
thinking
about
what
would
be
an
enriching
and
nourishing
experience
for
them
beyond
all
of
the
things
that
they
get
from
a
consistent
paycheck
and
the
soft
skills?
That's.
C
A
great
question,
and
so
we
ask
every
employer,
that's
part
of
learning,
earn
to
make
sure
that
their
opportunity,
their
work.
Experience
is
meaningful
because
we
don't
just
want
youth
filing
papers
or
picking
up
sticks.
We
want
them
to
have
a
voice
in
what
they're
doing,
and
we
want
them
to
learn
skills
and
to
like
going
to
work.
You
know,
I
mean
work
is
not
always
fun
for
everyone,
but
it
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
do
for
the
rest
of
our
lives.
C
A
lot
of
the
time,
or
at
least
you
know
until
we
retire
and
so
going
to
work,
should
should
have
opportunities
that
are
really
really
good
for
both
the
employee
and
the
employer.
But
when
we're
looking
at
what?
What
do
we
talk
to
employers
about
is
that
this
is
the
future
of
the
workforce
for
Pittsburgh
in
Allegheny
County,
and
so
in
order
to
make
sure
that
employers
have
the
workforce
that
they
need.
They
need
to
invest
in
that
workforce,
and
so
that
looks
like
mentoring,
a
young
person.
C
It
looks
like
making
sure
that
the
experiences
that
they're
providing
to
young
people
is
meaningful.
It
looks
like
making
sure
that
a
young
person
sure
absolutely
Tiffany.
Someone
might
be
very
nervous
their
first
few
days
going
into
a
new
job
and
I
think
we
all
are
when
we
go
to
a
new
job.
But
if
that
level
of
nerves
continues
throughout
the
entire
summer,
something's
wrong
in
that
situation,
because
a
young
person
should
feel
like
they're
contributing
well
and
that
they
are
able
to
be
heard
and
that
they
are
a
valued
part
of
the
team.
C
And
so
when
we're
looking
for
employers
who
want
to
participate
in,
learn
and
earn
we're
talking
about
things
like
positive
youth
development.
We're
talking
about
things
like
investing
in
the
future
of
your
workforce.
We've
had
employers
who
say
I
specifically
reach
out
and
connect
reconnect
with
my
learning
our
intern
every
few
months,
just
to
make
sure
that
they
are
doing
well
and
I
want
to
check
in
on
the
classes
that
they're
taking
whether
it's
in
high
school
or
if
it's
one
of
our
college
interns
and
I
want
them
to.
C
Remember
me
when
they
go
and
graduate
from
either
high
school
and
go
into
the
workplace
or
when
they
from
college
and
going
to
the
workplace,
because
it's
a
six-week,
really
long
job
interview
where
a
young
person
is
able
to
to
identify.
Is
this
something
that
I'm
interested
in
doing
long
term?
And
we
sometimes
have
young
people
who
say
I
thought
I
wanted
to
do
this
job
long
term.
I
thought
this
was
the
thing
that
I
really
wanted
to
do
for
the
rest
of
my
life.
C
I
did
it
for
learn
and
earn,
and
I
never
want
to
do
that
again,
and
that,
frankly,
is
a
success
for
me
too,
because
I
would
much.
Rather
you
decide
when
you're
in
high
school
I
really
thought
that
I
wanted
to
go
and
work
in
a
hospital
and
be
in
the
medical
field,
and
then
I
did
it
for
six
weeks
and
it
turns
out
I,
don't
like
the
smell
of
disinfectant
or
I,
can't
stand
when
people
are
rushing
by
me
on
their
way
to
an
emergency.
Well,
then,
I
would
much.
C
But
if
you
have
a
social
media
presence,
for
instance,
to
use
this
example
that
we've
been
talking
through
that
is
authentic
and
that
connects
in
with
young
people.
If
they're
your
target
audience,
a
young
person
can
tell
from
a
mile
away.
If
you
have
a
social
media
presence,
that's
trying
to
connect
with
you
that
just
doesn't
do
it
because
a
person
who's
running
it
has
no
idea
what
kids
actually
are
interested
in
and
actually
want,
and
so
they
become
a
really
great
voice
and
a
really
great
resource
for
employers.
C
To
say
how
do
I
build
this
pipeline?
How
do
I
build
the
tools
and
the
affinity
groups
at
my
employer
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
everyone
who
comes
in
as
an
employee
feels
welcome
here
and
understands
their
value
that
they
provide
to
the
organization
and
understands
what
the
opportunities
for
growth
are
and.
A
One
of
my
favorite
learner
and
products
that
we
did
was
with
a
local
artist
and
I
was
working
at
the
home
with
Children's
Village,
and
we've
done
some
surveys
with
yous
to
see
what
they
might
just
be
interested
in
career
track,
interest,
wise
affinity,
hobbies,
and
we
had
a
number
of
kids
that
were
interested
in
the
arts
and
interested
in
becoming
artists
or
continuing
to
be
artists
themselves.
The
work
with
local
artists.
We
did
this
daily
journaling
practice
with
them
that
they
got
to
design
and
then
all
over
the
city
and
county.
A
They
got
the
help
on
actual
art
like
public
art
installations,
and
it
was.
It
was
phenomenal
one
of
the
one
of
the
days
one
of
the
helpers
for
the
artist
drove
one
of
the
older
young
people
home
after
after
one
of
the
sessions,
and
then
that
young
person
relayed
to
her
that
that
was
the
first
time
that
a
white
woman
had
ever
been
nice
to
her.
A
She
was
a
small
or
she
was
a
young
black
woman
and
she
she
told
her
that
this
is
the
first
time
that
I've
ever
experienced
a
white
woman
being
nice
to
me,
and
we
were
astonished
by
that.
You
know
and
the
debrief
afterwards
with
adults.
You
just
don't
know
the
context
that
folks
are
coming
in
with,
but
there's
an
opportunity
here
to
to
change
perceptions,
to
open
doors
and
minds
and
to
truly
literally
quite
actually
invest
in
the
future
of
this
region
in
the
future
of
talent
and
workforce.
Here.
A
C
A
A
couple
last
questions
here,
we'll
bring
this
conversation
to
a
close
and
I
think
we
should
probably
I
love
to
do
a
kind
of
post
learning
earn
a
conversation
to
see
how
how
things
went,
but
I
want
to
keep
it
with
the
Triad
very
quickly
and
say
someone's
listening,
that
works
for
business
or
a
corporation
is
considering
well.
Maybe
this
is
something
for
them.
They've
been
looking
for
ways
to
engage
with
youth
or
have
internships.
A
C
Great
question
so
Tiffany
that
nervousness
that
you
experienced,
or
that
your
your
mentee
experienced
I
think
happens
as
a
supervisor
as
well
and
I
we
host
interns
throughout
the
year.
A
partner
for
work
and
I
can
remember
on
multiple
occasions,
waking
up
and
thinking
my
interns
gonna
be
here
today.
C
What
do
I
do
with
them,
and
so
we
try
in
in
all
of
this
learning
our
own
work
and
the
work
that
we
do
with
employers
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
businesses
to
host
an
intern,
and
it
is
work
certainly
to
host
an
intern,
you're,
mentoring
and
you're
working
through.
You
know
making
sure
that
that
person
has
meaningful
work
for
six
weeks,
which
is
a
lot
and
to
make
sure
that
you
are
supervising
them
well
and
able
to
provide
what
that
youth
needs.
C
That's
that's
no
small
feat,
and
so
we
are
incredibly
appreciative
of
of
every
employer
who's
part
of
this
program,
and
so
what
we
have
are
we
have
some
opportunities
that
that
are
kind
of
boilerplate
that
we
say
this
is
a
project-based
work,
experience
that
that
some
employers
are
contributing
to
this
year.
If
you're
interested
in
either
partnering
with
another
employer,
we
can
kind
of
infuse
what
you're
doing
into
that
project
or,
if
you're
looking
at
you
want
your
own
project.
C
How
do
we
take
this
boilerplate
and
apply
it
to
you
if
you're
interested
in
hosting
a
youth
in
a
position
and
have
them
be
available
on
your
site,
we'll
pair
you
up
with
a
provider
who
will
be
able
to
help?
You
create
a
job
description
for
that
young
person,
a
worksite
agreement
that
goes
through?
This
is
everything
you
have
to
know
about:
child
labor
laws,
for
instance,
young
people
in
London
earn
can't
use
power
tools
because
of
child
labor
laws.
C
So
that's
an
important
thing
for
for
businesses
to
know
who
might
be
hosting
a
young
person
and
then
to
make
that
work.
Experience
really
meaningful
our
provider
staff
check
in
with
that
employer
on
a
regular
basis
to
say
how
are
things
going
and
can
help
to
make
sure
that
the
summer
is
good
for,
for
both
the
corporation
and
for
the
young
person
in
the
corporate
track,
which
is
a
track
for
18
to
24
year
olds.
That's
a
program
is
a
little
bit
longer.
It
actually
starts
on
Monday
it's
eight
weeks.
C
Instead
of
six
weeks
and
young
people
get
paid
a
little
bit
more,
they
make
1035
an
hour
as
opposed
to
725
in
the
regular
program.
That
program
also
is
a
bridge
basically
between
high
school
and
when
corporations
start
their
own
internship
programs,
which
is
typically
in
the
junior
year
of
college
the
year
between
junior
and
senior
year.
C
A
And
we
want
more
folks
to
participate
and
engage
that
over
over
time
and
I
get
it
like
if
you're
in
corporation.
That's
what
you
do
you
focus
on
your
business.
It
might
not
be
obvious
to
you
how
you
can
engage
with
young
people
or
engage
with
local
talent,
but
there
are
opportunities
and
some
case
studies,
so
to
speak,
or
some
examples
that
you
could
take
a
look
at
to
see
what
it
might
look
like.
You
know
for
you
and
as
a
relates
to
being
able
to
engage
with
a
specific
person.
A
This
is
a
really
good,
a
really
good
opportunity.
You
know.
Finally,
the
last
part
of
that
was
related
to
funding
and
there's
you
know
a
whole
pie
chart
of
where
the
funds
come
from
to
make
learning
impossible,
but
as
it
relates
to
you
know,
we're
hearing
we're
singing
a
lot
it
as
relates
to
unemployment.
A
Right
now
we
have
heard
some
conversation
about
workforce
development
for
there
to
be
the
kind
of
you
know,
investment
to
do
the
rigorous
upskilling
activity
that
can
take
this
idea
and
build
on
and
build
on
and
build
on
it
over
time
Suzy.
What
does
that?
Look
like
what
does
that
look
like
practically
if
there
were
to
be
investment
into
the
idea
that
some
are
learn
earn
and
the
Workforce
Investment
Board
partner
for
work
represents.
Where
would
that
come
from?
And
and
what
would
it
look
like
so.
C
C
The
Pittsburgh
foundation
has
been
an
enormous
partner,
Highmark
foundation,
the
Macauley
ministries,
PNC
Charitable
Trusts,
and
all
of
those
partners
are
invaluable,
and
this
year
many
local
foundations,
helman
Foundation
and
the
grayble
foundation
have
stepped
up
and
said
there
are
going
to
be
some
extraordinary
costs
given
COBIT,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
those
can
be
covered.
Partner
for
work
also
contributes
funding
that
we
receive
from
from
the
state
to
the
program,
and
then
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
connect
youth
into
our
year-round
programs
after
they've
finished,
with
learn
and
earn.
C
C
In
many
years
there
hasn't
been
state
funding
beyond
a
corporate
program
is
supported
out
of
a
program
through
the
state
called
the
state
and
local
internship
program,
but
that's
been
the
extent
of
state
funding
and
so
really
to
create
some
sustainable
and
sufficient
government
funding
to
be
able
to
grow.
This
program
would
be
a
really
amazing
opportunity
and
would
help
us
to
build
this
pipeline
of
young
people
who
are
going
to
be
ready
to
work
in
the
region's
employers
and.
A
So
could
it
be
the
case
that
federal
funding
to
support
this
kind
of
work
could
just
be
the
funding
itself
wooden
s?
It
wouldn't
have
to
be
the
creation
of
some
kind
of
federal
work
force
program.
They
can
engage
with
the
local
Workforce
Investment
boards
or
in
this
case
the
particle
work.
They
already
do
this
activity.
Is
that
fair
to
say
absolutely.
C
A
B
I
would
just
encourage
those
workplaces
that
might
be
interested
to
reach
out
to
partner
for
work,
and
once
you
know
just
give
a
big
shout
out
to
partner
for
work
for
being
so
flexible.
This
summer,
like
as
Suzy
has
mentioned,
there
are
cities
that
have
decided
they
just
didn't,
have
the
capacity
to
do
it.
B
So
New
York
City
has
canceled
their
program
and
they
employ
many,
many
thousands
of
children
and
youth,
and
knowing
that
you
know,
we
have
programming
that's
available
this
summer
and
that
funders
have
stepped
up
to
provide
that
assistance
and
in
launching
a
platform
so
that
folks
can
get
trained.
Online
I
think
is
really
important.
So
just
big
thanks
to
partner
for
work
and
those
local
funders
that
really
made
this
possible
this
summer,
yeah.
A
I
echo
that
thanks
as
well
certainly
extraordinary
see
I
mean
the
ongoing
commitment
of
the
mayor
and
the
county
executive.
The
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
Allegheny
County
speaks
for
itself
and
to
see
folks
step
forward
during
the
crisis
to
make
sure
the
costs
are
covered
and
that
there
can
still
be
an
experience
for
use.
Tells
you
I
think
a
lot
about
the
region.
A
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
be
proud
of
and
grateful
for
there,
a
Suzie
I
won
any
encourage
was
from
you,
but
right
before
we
had
her
got
a
question
related
to
apprenticeships
when
it
comes
to
partner
for
work.
What's
the
deal
with
apprenticeships
and
where
should
folks
go
to
look
to
learn
more
yeah.
C
So
available
on
our
website,
which
is
partner,
the
number
for
work
org,
you
can
find
my
contact
information
and
you
can
find
contact
information
for
our
apprenticeship
manager.
His
name
is
David
Conway.
C
So
apprenticeships
represent
a
really
great
opportunity
to
enter
into
the
workplace
to
get
paid
to
earn
and
learn
rather
than
learn
and
earn.
But
we
think
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
people
to
get
connected
in
and
get
employed
while
they
are
getting
those
skills.
So
there's
more
information
on
apprenticeships
available
on
our
website.
C
If
you
have
any
trouble
with
the
application,
please
don't
hesitate
to
call
us
or
one
of
the
application,
support,
centers
and
we'll
make
sure
that
you're
able
to
apply
it's
going
to
be
really
important
this
summer,
both
for
young
people
to
have
something
meaningful
to
do,
but
then
also
to
earn
a
paycheck
which
we
can't.
You
know
minimize
the
importance
of
that.
So
it's
something
that
we
feel
very
strongly
about
that
that
summer.
C
A
We
want
this
program
to
be
successful.
I
think
it
would
say
a
lot
about
the
ongoing
resilience
of
this
region
to
have
another
wonderful,
positive
learner
and
experience
this
year
in
the
midst
of
COBIT.
In
the
midst
of
all
else,
that's
going
on.
You
know
a
chance
to
come
together,
invest
in
the
next
generation
and
young
people
and
are
in
our
own
capacity
to
build
bridges
and
relationships.
It
truly
is
a
wonderful
thing,
so
thank
you
both
for
your
time.