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From YouTube: Equity Series: Gender, Identity, & Family Equity
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The Office of Equity officials discussed gender, LGBTQIA+ identity and families, and how intersections within equity are critical and remain a priority during and after the pandemic for the City of Pittsburgh.
A
Good
afternoon
and
and
happy
monday,
my
name
is
josiah
gilliam,
and
this
is
the
latest
in
an
ongoing
series
related
to
equity,
related
to
mayor
bill,
peduto's
office
related
to
the
office
of
equity
and
just
life
in
pittsburgh,
and
I'm
very
excited
to
have
this
conversation
that
we're
about
to
have
today,
two
of
my
favorite
team
members
and
a
real
chance
to
explore
some
intersections
of
work.
The
intersection
like
work
in
the
mayor's
office,
but
also
the
intersection
of
private
public
partnership,
research,
community
activism
organization
and
a
whole
a
whole
host
of
things.
A
Just
so
folks
have
a
sense
of
what
it
is
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
what
landscape
we're
going
to
cover,
but
because
of
these
two
groups,
I
think
it
makes
sense-
and
our
team
were
talking
about
this
before
the
call
to
start
with
an
important
acronym
that
will
help
both
define
and
frame
the
conversation
that
we
are
intending
to
have,
and
that
acronym
is
soji.
Soji
is
spelled
s
o
g,
I
e,
and
it
stands
for
sexual
orientation,
gender
identity
and
expression
and
so
anew
and
tiffany.
A
B
C
A
Great
well,
my
name
is
josiah
and
I
use
he
him
and
now
that
we
have
that
set.
Let's
talk
about
what
you
two
both
do
at
the
mayor's
office
and
then
we'll
start
with
the
gender
equity
commission
and
get
the
conversation
rolling.
So
tiffany,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
you're
you've
shared
your
name
and
pronouns.
What
you
do
at
the
mayor's
office
and
as
it
relates
to
the
lgbtqia
advisory
council.
B
A
Wonderful
new
I'd
like
to
read
very
quickly
something
that's
on
the
gender
equity
commission
site
for
the
city
as
a
way
to
begin
the
conversation
it
says
here
that
the
gender
equity
commission
or
gec
is
tasked
with
eradicating
gender-based
barriers
to
equity
by
changing
local
policy
and
holding
city
government
accountable.
The
gec
consists
of
14
volunteers
who
live
and
work
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
four
of
whom
work
in
different
capacities
for
local
government
and
one
staff
member.
A
C
Those
are
great
questions.
On
the
one
hand,
all
of
us
experience
gender
from
the
moment
of
our
birth.
We
are
assigned
a
gender
and
it
it's
usually
according
to
a
binary,
male
or
female,
but
we
know
from
people's
lived
experiences
and
we
know
from
research,
historic
and
cross-cultural
that
those
two
categories
don't
really
ex
capture
gender
diversity.
C
We
also
have
historical
inequalities,
so
you
know
simply
put
women
have
not
always
been
allowed
to
vote
to
own
property,
that
they've
experienced
certain
kinds
of
violence
that
have
been
not
been
recognized
as
gender-based
violence.
So
the
gender
equity
commission
is
partly
trying
to
address
those
historical
inequities,
the
legacies
of
which
are
very
much
present.
C
We
have
a
lot
of
statistical
analysis
that
shows
us
in
our
very
city
that
gender
in
combination
with
race
are
are
the
best
predictors
of
outcomes,
and
so
there
there
is
still
inequality
based
on
gender
that
we
need
to
address.
We
also
are
always
thinking,
intersectionally
and
thinking
about
being
gender
inclusive,
recognizing
that
male
and
female
binaries
do
not
account
and
do
not
allow
us
to
build
fair
and
just
systems
for
all
people.
And
so
those
are
two
very
important
things,
and
just
to
speak
about
intersectionality.
C
A
C
C
C
Sure
so
so
this
is-
and
you
know
I
come
to
this
work
from
years
of
being
a
scholar
of
gender
and
teaching,
and
so
both
gender
and
sex
in
our
society
are
categories
that
we
put
on
people
that
we
know
that
there
are
many
people
who
are
born,
who
actually
don't
fit.
They
are
sometimes
called
intersex
call
themselves
by
various
category
names,
but
we
know
that
people
don't
so
easily
fit
into
these
very
limited
categories
and
so
assigned
people
are
assigned
what
becomes
both
gender
and
sex
at
birth.
C
C
But
there
are
also
stereotypes,
implicit
bias
expectations,
so
people
often
will
define
themselves
as
gender,
non-conforming
or
gender
fluid
to
reflect
that
how
they
experience
the
world
in
terms
of
these
categories
of
gender,
don't
really
conform
to
rigid
binaries,
and
so
I
think
both
gender
and
sex
are
things.
We
want
to
approach
with
a
much
more
inclusive
sense
of
the
diversity
of
actual
people
as
compared
to
the
categories
we
might
believe
apply
to
them.
A
Sure,
and
so
in
in
this
case,
if
we're
saying
gender
equity,
how
do
you
explain
what
that
what
that
idea
is
to
to
folks?
I
appreciate
the
background
that
you
bring
into
this
conversation
because
for
someone
that
doesn't
have
like
myself
that
background
the
the
explanations
are
very
helpful.
So
what
do
we
mean
by
by
gender
equity
here.
C
So
absolutely
I
care
very
much
about
inequalities
that
men
in
our
city
are
experiencing
people
of
all
genders
experience.
However,
the
category
of
female
has
been
used
to
justify
limitations
to
rights.
There
have
been
narratives
about.
Women
should
have
certain
kinds
of
jobs,
and
you
know
it's
only
about
50
years,
since
the
city
of
pittsburgh
stopped
advertising
jobs
as
male
or
female.
C
And
as
I
say,
if
anyone
raises
an
issue
and
says
there
is
a
systematic
way
in
which
being
male
is
preventing
someone
and
preventing
groups
of
people
from
equal
opportunity
and
equity,
we
need
to
be
working
on
that.
I
unfortunately
not.
Unfortunately,
I
cannot
think
of
anything
immediately
or
systematically.
Our
local
government
is
creating
barriers
for
people
who
are
identified
as
male.
C
The
barriers
exist
for
people
are
identified
as
male,
and
especially
for
people
who
are
trans
or
otherwise
don't
match
either
category,
and
so
we're
we're
looking
at
those
things
that
are
very
much,
unfortunately
built
into
our
systems
that
really
need
intentional
dismantling
and
unlearning
our
own
implicit
biases.
You
know:
do
I
think
a
woman
is
going
to
be
a
different
kind
of
worker
because
of
my
own
assumptions
about
gender,
which
are
likely
limited
because
we're
all
just
people
and
have
our
own
limitations.
A
Yeah,
so
it's
interesting
because
here's
an
example
of
where
from
a
systems
and
structures
perspective
you're
seeking
to
to
improve
the
behavior
of
those
systems
and
structures
relative
to
to
all
people,
but
with
a
special
emphasis
on
where
there
have
been
barriers
in
place
put
in
place
by
design
or
lack
thereof,
that
have
negatively
and
outsized
or
ahead
of
impacted
people
based
on
their
gender
identity
and
expression.
But
it's
also
a
a
an
example
of
where
there's
this
chance
to
introduce
the
idea
of
internal
individual
bias.
A
So
you
could
say
well.
The
structure
system
is
set
up
this
way,
but
this
hiring
manager,
if
there
is
if
there
is
unforeseen
or
unacknowledged
or
unframed
bias,
it
can
affect
the
decision
that
is
being
made.
And
so
it's
a
chance
to
to
talk.
You
know
both
kind
of
at
large
and
on
the
individual
level.
How
do
you
all
at
the
gender
equity
commission
walk
that
line,
because
it
seems
like
a
pretty
complicated,
a
pretty
complicated
dance
to
do.
C
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
in
some
ways,
taking
an
intersectional
approach
means
that
we
care
about
everything,
and
so
how
do
we
identify
how
to
take
care
of
individuals
while
we're
also
trying
to
make
systemic
change?
And
so
some
of
the
things
I
think
that
are
very
important
to
do-
are
to
make
sure
that
the
people
who
are
most
negatively
impacted
by
existing
gender
inequalities
have
a
seat
at
the
table.
C
To
use
that
phrase
that
we
make
as
many
I'm
trying
to
think
of
the
right
metaphor,
we
provide
as
many
opportunities
as
we
can
think
of
to
to
ask
people
for
their
input.
We
have
an
email
account.
That's
purposely
very
easy
to
remember,
genderequity
at
pittsburgh,
pa.gov
and
I
routinely
get
emails
from
members
of
the
public
and
I'll
just
mention
to
you.
C
We
don't
have
all
the
answers,
but
we
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
asking
really
good
questions
and
asking
for
lots
of
input
from
people
and
and
people
are
just
very
varied.
There
is,
you
know,
people
of
any
gender
identity
or
who
are
gender
fluid?
Who
are
male
or
female?
Don't
have
the
same
views
on
things,
so
we
can't
let
one
one
person
decide
for
you
know
tokenize
one
person
to
speak
for
an
entire
group.
C
A
Could
you
just
keep
it
with
the
example
of
the
of
the
gender-based
or
gender-free
bathrooms,
because
this
is
this
is
probably
the
example
that
has
been
spoken
about
the
most
just
in
like
popular
conversation
and
there's
a
lot
of
seeming
controversy
about
it
and
different
and
different
stances
people
have
taken
and
yet
to
me
for
the
purpose
of
this
conversation.
This
is
a
chance
to
talk
about
like
take.
Take.
Take
us
a
city
municipal
building.
A
Is
there
a
way
from
a
design
perspective
to
be
as
inclusive
and
accommodating
and
accessible
to
as
many
people
as
possible,
and
it's
it's
kind
of
related
under
subheading
of
well?
Can
you
provide
ramps
and
ways
for
folks
that
have
different
exceptionalities
to
access
the
space
and
once
then,
once
they're
in
the
space
to
have
as
welcomed
and
as
accommodated
experience
as
possible?
A
And
so
can
you
can
you
speak
about
that
issue,
and
you
mentioned
that
folks
have
have
reached
out
to
you
about
that
and
that
for
me,
I
think,
really
explains
what
the
gender
equity
commission
both
has
and
can
function
as
which
is
an
interface
to
city
government
for
folks
to
give
their
input
and
to
take
part
in
process.
But
when
it
comes
to
the
to
the
to
the
bathroom
considerations,
how
do
you,
how
do
you
explain
the
thinking
there
and
what
would
you?
What
would
you
tell
us
about
it.
C
The
violence
is
towards
people
who
are
gender
non-conforming,
not
towards
others,
and
so
what?
What
I
feel
very
lucky
to
have
been
able
to
do-
and
this
is
the
kind
of
work
the
gender
equity
commission
does-
that
is
not
necessarily
in
the
public
site-
is
that
the
department
of
public
works
is
charged
with
new
bathrooms
for
the
city,
and
they
are
are
thinking
and
requesting
input
from
every
group
to
say,
okay,
this
manifestation
of
a
public
space.
C
What
are
all
of
the
needs
that
people
might
have
and
those
include
well,
first
and
foremost,
it
has
to
be
a
functioning
bathroom.
So
we
certainly
need
to
think
about
that.
Some
of
our
buildings
are
very
old.
So
in
fact,
once
you
start
to
track
the
pipes
it
turns
out,
it
takes
two
years
to
make
a
functioning
bathroom
in
a
hundred
year
old
building,
and
so,
although
the
the
desire
is
certainly
there
to
make
it
happen
more
quickly,
we
do
have
also
those
material
limitations.
C
So
once
you
start
to
speak
about
providing
products
in
a
bathroom,
you
then
have
to
think
about
fixtures
and
I've
been
in
conversations
where
we've
talked
about,
which
fixtures
are
most
accessible.
What
height
would
they
be
at?
We
want
to
make
sure
if
someone's
in
a
wheelchair
in
our
bathrooms
and
needs
a
certain
thing
that
they
have
access
and
then
to
go
back
to
the
gender
inclusive
part.
C
And
so
there
is
a
movement,
and
I
know
some
people
are
interested
in
changing
the
county
code
because
it
may
exist
from
a
previous
historical
moment.
But
if
we
have
single
stalled
gender
inclusive
bathrooms,
we
can
create
safe
public
spaces
where
people
can
can
get
on
with
the
business
of
using
a
bathroom.
And
so
I
I
think
the
department
of
public
works
is
being
very,
very
intentional,
as
they
think
about
new
building
and
ways
of
updating
existing
public
facilities,
and
these
things
don't
happen
as
quickly
as
we
might
like.
A
You
know
it
just
takes.
It
starts
to
add
some
complexity
there.
One
last
quick
question,
then
tiffany
I'd
like
to
talk
with
you
about
the
advisory
council
or
about
advisory
group.
I
knew
when
we
talked
about
the
gender
equity
commission.
Who
are
we
who
are
like?
What
is
the
structure?
How
long
have
they
have
they
been
working
and
and
how
do
folks
get
in
contact?
You
know
with
them.
C
Thank
you
for
asking
that
I
work
with
an
amazing
group.
We
have
a
commissioner
who
just
came
on
board,
which
takes
us
to
14
and
10
of
those
are
volunteers.
You
have
to
live
or
work
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
in
order
to
be
considered
and
anyone
is
welcome
to
self-nominate
or
nominate
other
people,
and
we,
if
you
go
to
pittsburgh
pa.gov,
you
can
find
the
gender
equity
commission
and
our
email
and
how
to
contact
us
sign
up
for
a
newsletter
all
available
there.
C
C
We
may
have
things
in
common
because
of
shared
national
history,
but
we
really
need
to
understand
the
landscape
here,
and
so
the
commissioners
helped
to
collect
that
data
through
working
with
city
processes,
procurement
processes,
and
then
they
try
and
help
make
recommendations
for
policy.
So
they
do
a
lot
of
deep
discussion.
They
bring
their
different
points
of
view
to
bear
and
we
count
on
them
to
really
volunteer
a
great
deal
of
time,
they're
wonderful
in
trying
to
do
their
best
by
the
most
vulnerable
populations.
According
to
gender-based
barriers
in
our
city,.
A
B
A
Terrific
well
I'd
like
to
start
in
the
same
way,
if
that's
all
right
with
you
by
reading
the
purpose
of
the
lgbtqia
advisory
council,
that's
on
the
website
and
just
to
start
there.
So
it
says
here
that
the
mayor's
lgbtqia
advisory
council
will
be
charged
with
taking
a
comprehensive
approach
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
entire
lgbtqia
community.
A
The
advisory
council
will
consist
of
a
diverse
makeup
of
members
of
the
community
advisory
members,
will
meet
monthly,
provide
quarterly
status
updates
to
the
mayor
and
will
strive
towards
the
goal
of
inclusivity
and
progress
within
the
lgbtqia
community.
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
you
know
how
you
come
to
this
work
and
and
what
how
you
explain
what
the
council
works
on
to
folks
that
you
encounter
in
the
community.
B
Yeah
sure
thing
just
to
give
you
some
kind
of
background
on
the
council.
The
council
came
together
in
late
2016..
They
were
seated
about
december
or
so
and
has
a
wide
variety
of
different
folks
that
are
on
the
council.
That
are,
you
know,
from
non-profits
higher
education,
community
organizations,
just
community
members-
and
we
really
have
have
had
a
wide
variety
of
folks
that
have
served
on
the
council
and
what
they
do
is
they
make
recommendations.
They
meet
monthly.
They
make
recommendations
to
the
mayor
around
different
things
like
public
safety.
B
B
That
was
for
the
general
public
to
talk
about
gender
identity,
the
wide
variety
of
gender
identity
that
is
out
there
and
had
some
panelists
that
talked
about
their
gender
identities
and
how
they
would
like
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
they
have
dignity
and
respect
in
the
community.
So
there's
those
are
just
a
kind
of
an
example
of
some
of
the
things
that
the
council
does
and
one
of
the
exciting
things
that's
happening.
Is
the
council
is
moving
towards
becoming
a
commission
which
would
mean
you
know
similar
to
the
gender
equity
commission.
B
A
I
see
so
it
it
could
last
beyond
this,
the
current
administration
and
it's
just
something
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
does
from
there.
Okay,
wonderful-
and
so
you
mentioned
this
idea.
You
know
this
is
a
recent
recent
news.
Recent
event
happening
with
with
the
misgendering
in
terms
of
communicating
the
value
of
what
this
about
this
training
of
what
this,
this
learning
opportunity
could
be
like
how
how
was
it
framed,
how
how
was
it?
B
Sure
thing
and
I
actually
believe
that
we
do
have
a
recorded
version
that
we
can
share
in
the
chat
box,
and
if
we
don't
have
it
right
now,
we
can
share
it
a
little
bit
later,
but
basically
it
was
a
really
great
training.
It
was
an
hour
and
a
half
long
and
the
first
half
of
that
training
was
just
kind
of
talking
about
gender
identity.
A
A
That
was
very
useful
for
me
in
terms
of
you
know,
definitions,
terms
and
adding
nuance
to
my
understanding,
but
there
was
a
whole
another
level
of
of
through,
like
interpersonal
relationship
having
having
space
in
your
mental
model,
to
allow
for
the
lived
experience
of
your
friend
or
your
neighbor
whomever
to
be
to
be
shared
to
the
extent
that
they
feel
feel
comfortable.
And
so
it
seems
like
this
was
a
blend
in
that
case
too,
where
yeah
you're
dealing
with
terms.
But
then
you
also
get
to
just
hear
from
folks
who
can
talk.
B
Is
fair
to
say,
yeah,
and
I
think
you
know
like
anew
had
mentioned
you
know
gender
is
is
really
you
know
something
that
most
children
are
assigned
at
birth.
I
mean,
I
think
there
is
arson
changes
now
with
some
parents
raising
their
children
kind
of
gender
neutral.
But
it's
something
that
you
know
when
someone
is
pregnant.
B
B
A
B
Yeah
sure
so
this
would
be
more
of
a
city
function,
but
the
city
overall
has
been
looking
at
how
to
be
more
family
friendly
and
knowing
that
you
know
in
most
cases
women
are
the
caregivers
in
their
household
of
children.
Some
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
is
that
we
for
our
city
employees.
We
have
paid
parental
leave
for
men
and
for
women
or
non-binary
folks.
Anyone
that
is
a
parent
that
either
gives
birth
to
a
child
adopts
or
fosters,
is
eligible
for
that,
and
they
are
able
to
take
that.
B
We
have
lactation
rooms
in
our
city,
county
building,
as
well
as
our
other
building,
that's
across
the
street
at
200
raw
street
and
those
are
for
any
any
person
that
may
be.
You
know
breast
or
chest
feeding
that
would
like
to
you
know
it
could
be
a
member
of
the
staff
or
it
could
be
a
member
of
the
public.
B
We
also
do
some
child
care,
so
we
do
child
care
for
our
staff
on
specific
days
during
the
year
days.
At
the
pittsburgh
public
schools
are
closed,
but
that
we're
open
for
normal
kind
of
operating
hours
in
our
office
buildings,
and
we
also
provide
on-site
child
care
for
some
of
our
larger
community
meetings
and
that's
been
something.
That's
been
extremely
popular.
B
B
You
know,
retired
folks,
but
there
weren't
a
lot
of
you
know
younger
people,
there
weren't
a
lot
of
kids
and
you
know
that
can
be
a
huge
barrier
for
families
to
be
able
to
attend
meetings
and
especially
women,
who
do
tend
to
be
the
caregivers
in
the
home.
You
know
if
you
can't
hire
a
babysitter
to
watch
your
child
or
you
don't
have
another
family
member.
You
may
miss
out
on
those
important
community
meetings,
which
means
that
your
voice
isn't
being
heard.
A
A
B
Yeah
yeah,
it's
we
started
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
and
we
had
just
a
couple
families
that
used
it.
And
now
you
know
when
we're
back
in
the
office,
we
have
a
lot
more
families
that
are
using
that,
as
well
as
out
in
those
community
meetings.
So
you
know
we
have
large-scale
public
safety
meetings
or
community
development
block,
grant
meetings
or
budget
meetings.
A
Right
another
way,
another
way
to
handle
and
to
think
about
accommodations
and
design
as
well.
In
this
case,
the
design
of
the
experience
itself.
Can
you
reduce
barriers
for
folks
that
might
not
participate
otherwise,
and
should
they
decide
to
can
it
be
of
a
of
a
quality
and
of
a
value
where
it
makes
sense
for
folks
and
it's
cool
to
see
that
the
pit
that
the
the
city
can
move
in
that
direction
anew?
A
I'd
like
to
talk
about
you
know,
speaking
of
outputs,
for
a
lot
of
great
city
work,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
gender
equity
report
that
was
released.
You
mentioned
it
briefly
in
your
remarks
last
year,
because
it's
a
really
great
there's
a
really
great
example
of
a
lot
of
things.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
could
you
just
set
the
stage
for
us?
C
C
On
the
one
hand,
although
there
is
a
lot
of
data
we're
in
the
era
of
big
data,
there's
also
a
gender
data
gap
that
we've
often
not
collected
different
kinds
of
data
based
on
gendered
patterns,
gender-based
barriers,
we're
certainly
very
far
from
having
reliable
data
about
people
who
are
gender,
non-binary
or
trans.
And
so
that's
something
we're
also
thinking
very
hard
about
how
to
responsibly
and
ethically
gather
data
for
groups
who
have
been
stigmatized
and
very
vulnerable
in
our
society.
And
so
so
that
report
pittsburgh's
inequality
across
gender
and
race.
C
We
would
like
to
do
future
reports
where
we
look
at
gender
and
ability
where,
in
conjunction
with
the
lgbtqia
plus
advisory
council,
slash
commission
that
we
look
at
at
those
identities
which
are
not
reflected
that
we
look
at
races
beyond
black
and
white,
which
is
certainly
very
important
in
the
united
states,
especially
in
in
this
historic
moment,
but
that
there
are
many
people
who
are
mixed
race
who
are
latinx.
Who
are
asian
american,
who
are
arab
american,
who
are
not
always
captured
in
the
publicly
available
data.
C
C
C
We,
we
need
to
provide
people
abilities
to
empower
themselves
which
they've
been
historically,
you
know
obstructed
from
doing
because
of
racism
and
sexism.
These
systematic
institutionalized
inequalities.
So
the
report
was
an
environmental
scan
based
on
gender
and
race
to
fill
the
gender
data
gap,
and
then
we
will
continue
to
do
reports
as
we're
able
going
forward,
but
we
want
to
use
reliable
data,
not
anecdote.
We
want
to
hear
about
lived
experiences,
but
then
we
also
want
to
see
the
patterns
laid
out
for
us
so
that
we
can
prioritize
policy
interventions.
A
C
So
it
means
that
it's
it's
publicly
available
data,
so
the
databases
that
are
used,
for
example,
the
census,
is
very,
very
important
and
that's
something
that
many
people
in
our
office
are
are
just
doing
heroic
amounts
of
work,
because
the
census
is
used
to
give
us
a
picture
of
who
lives
in
the
united
states
different
categories.
But
it's
also
used
to
decide
where
funding
goes.
So
if
we
know
that
there
are
groups
reflected
in
the
census,
so
that's
the
kind
of
data
that
the
first
report
used.
C
What
is
available
to
all
of
us
and
it's
the
same
data-
that's
used
to
make
very,
very
important
funding
decisions.
So
that's
what
was
used
and-
and
I
think
that
I
I'm
certainly
not
an
expert
on
the
census,
but
I
know
that
many
people
in
the
mayor's
office
are
are
much
more
qualified
to
talk
about
that
and
the
very
you
know
significant
importance
that
all
of
us
participate,
especially
those
from
underrepresented
groups,
and
so
and
it's
it's
very
simple
and
short.
So
I
encourage
people
to
do
that.
C
A
So,
let's
so
it
it
pulling
from
empirical
data,
it's
looking
at
these
intersections
and
and
the
reality
of
folks
lived
experience
here
in
the
city
and
if
you
were
to
give
us
a
like
a
reddit
style
too
long
didn't
read
like
what
did
like
tldr.
What
did
it
find?
What
what?
What
like
summarizing,
what
the
report
has
said,
which
which
and
we
should
a
good
place
to
acknowledge
the
latest
in
an
ongoing
exploration
of
these
realities
from
folks
in
different
sectors
from
different
backgrounds?
C
I
have
seen
no
one
argue
with
what
it
by
using
that
publicly
available
data
in
the
way
that
they
did.
What
it
shows
is
racism
over
determines
quality
of
life
in
pittsburgh.
That
is
the
explanation
for,
for
instance,
in
this
case,
black
men
in
pittsburgh
may
be
most
actively
seeking
jobs
and
are
the
least
likely
to
be
offered
jobs,
and-
and
so
there
are
a
number
of
situations,
there's
another
sort
of
striking
piece
of
it.
C
They
are
not
not
often
given
the
opportunity
based
on
implicit
bias
assumptions,
girls
in
math
racial
bias,
but
when
they
are
given
that
opportunity,
they
they
outperform
every
other
group.
So
what
the
report
shows-
and
you
use
those
two
specific
examples-
the
report
basically
says
we
cannot
dismiss
racism,
anyone
who
tries
to
say
in
pittsburgh.
Everyone
has
an
equal
shot
who
believes
in
the
myth
of
meritocracy
the
american
dream,
pull
yourself
up
by
your
bootstraps
by
using
the
data
that
is
publicly
available.
C
C
A
So
I
just
want
to
stay
here
for
for
a
quick
second,
and
then
we
can
we
can.
We
can
move
on
a
lot
of
the
conversations
relates
to
cobia,
19
and
racial
realities
around
this
global
pandemic
and
say
access
to
health
care
or
just
general
health
outcomes
have
been
pretty
pretty
solidly
held
within
the
notion
of
race.
A
So
we
say
that
african
americans
or
black
people
may
be
at
a
higher
risk
because
of
other
social
determinants
or
pre-existing
conditions,
and
the
report
that
you're
that
we're
talking
about
now
does
speak
to
some
of
those
realities
in
a
hyperlocal
systemic
sense.
But
then
there's
this
all,
there's
this
additional
lens,
this
additional
layer
of
gender
that
that
that
makes
the
data
yell
out
at
you
so
to
speak.
I
did
not
know
that
doesn't
sound
academic,
but
it
it
further
underscores
some
of
the
some
of
those.
A
C
I'm
really
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
the
generically
commission
released
a
statement,
and
I
I
want
to
recommend
that
people
who
may
not
be
aware
of
it
check
out
the
say
her
name
campaign
and
kimberly
crenshaw
who's.
You
know
really
helped
to
popularize
the
idea
and
the
concept
of
intersectionality
and
who's
the
executive
director
for
the
center
for
intersectionality
and
social
policy
studies.
C
So
for
some
people
it
is
black
men
who
are
absolutely
in
our
society,
very,
very
vulnerable
to
institutionalized
police
and
other
kinds
of
violence
and
terrorism,
but
certainly
our
country
was
built
on
exploitation
and
erasure
of
black
women,
and
so
I
mentioned
say
her
name,
because
in
every
case,
what
our
report
is
trying
to
model
for
everyone
is
that
when
we
start
to
look
at
situations,
we
need
to
ask.
Is
there
a
gendered
impact
here?
C
Because
if
we
don't
ask
that
question,
we
miss
patterns
that
are
crucial
now
we
certainly
need
to
do
that.
Intersectionally
and
say
what
are
the
lgbtq
plus
implications
here,
who's
being
left
out
because
of
different
abilities?
So
I
think
that
that's
partly
what
our
report,
I
think,
and
I
have
gotten
emails
from
people
around
the
country
who
have
thanked
us,
because
it
actually
shows
a
methodology
for
doing
this,
because
it
can
sometimes
seem
hard
well.
C
How
do
I
take
that
kind
of
intersectional
break
and
for
me,
the
way
that
we
all
internalize
it
and
and
put
it
into
practice,
is
simply
by
asking
that
question.
There
may
be
cases
when
we
say
I'm
not
seeing
a
gendered
impact
or
there
isn't
a
group,
that's
being
systematically
treated
to
inequality.
But
if
we
don't
ask
the
question,
we
might
think
that
and
re-erase
black
women
who
are
also
victims,
for
example,
of
police
violence,
and
so
I
encourage
everyone
to
to
check
out,
say
her
name.
C
They've
said
it
much
more
eloquently
than
I
have
and-
and
so
I
think
that
our
report
is
dovetailing
with
a
lot
of
other
public
statements,
a
lot
of
sentiment,
saying
who
have
we
left
behind
and
how
can
we
create
a
new,
equitable,
normal
post?
These
very
disruptive
times
where
we
won't
have
to
look
back
and
say
we
did
not
do
right
by
everyone
in
our
city
in
our
country.
A
I
appreciate
that
tiffany.
I
wonder
because-
and
this
might
you
know
my
head-
it's
just
kind
of
like
the
visualization
of
the
lenses
that
are
being
added,
but
we
have
this
exploration
of
of
race
and
gender
in
the
empirical
sense
in
the
academic
sense.
But
then
there
could
be
additional
lenses
of
identity
that
can
impact
people's
lived
experience
and
also
impact,
apparently
how
systems
treat
people
and
how
decisions
that
systems
make
treat
people.
Where
does
your
mind
go
when
you
hear
this
discussion.
B
Yeah
sure
thing,
so
I
go
to
thinking
about
the
census,
so
this
is
the
first
year
that
the
census
is
going
to
be
actually
tracking
same-sex
couples
and
also
it
is
a.
It
is
a
binary
choice
in
terms
of
when
you
choose
your
sex
and
gender,
so
you
only
can
choose
male
or
female,
so
there's
not
another
option.
So
for
those
folks
that
are
trans
or
gender
non-binary,
you
know
they
are
not
able
to
be
adequately
counted
on
that
census.
B
So
I
think
of
that-
and
I
appreciate
what
anew
was
saying
around
you
know,
making
sure
that
we're
working
together.
You
know
we're
that
you
know,
as
the
gender
equity
commission
is
going
to
be
doing,
reports
that
they
will
be
working
with
the
lgbtqia
plus
advisory
council
future
commission,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
information
that's
publicly
available
does
not
adequately
reflect
the
realities
of
the
community
and
and
doesn't
take
into
account
the
complex
lives
that
people
lead.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you.
So
much
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
pathway
forward.
I
think
it's
a
good
conversation
for
us
all
to
have,
and
then
we
can
bring
this
conversation
to
a
close
before
I
do
that.
I'd
like
to
just
with
the
gender
equity
report
a
couple
a
couple
other
points:
there's
been
some
learnings
anew
that
have
taken
place.
You
know
throughout
the
process
you
know.
A
Certainly
the
report
itself
is
a
learning
opportunity,
but
since
the
release
of
the
report,
there's
been
a
chance
to
engage
with
the
community
in
both
in
a
sense
of
acknowledgement,
but
also
engagement,
that's
taken
place,
and
it
reminds
me
of
some
things:
we've
seen
here
locally
in
the
kova
19
era,
you
know
as
well.
So
can
you
talk
about?
C
I
can,
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
question
I
think
one
thing
to
say
first
and
foremost
is
there
is
no
blueprint.
We
can
apply
to
creating
social
equity
in
the
us
that
we've
got
a
history
of
people
working
towards
a
fair
and
just
society,
but
the
the
things
that
the
gender
equity
commission,
the
lgbtq
plus
advisory
council,
qia,
plus
advisory
council
future
commission.
C
We
are
trying
to
create
something
that
doesn't
exist,
and
so
we
are,
we
are
perp,
you
know
necessarily
experimental,
and
so,
with
the
report
we
wanted
to
do
this
environmental
scan
and
immediately
after
the
report
was
released,
a
group
of
incredibly
just
wonderful,
local,
black
women
and
femmes,
and
most
of
whom
are
public
health
researchers.
It
criticized
the
release
of
the
report
and
the
lack
of
centering
of
black
women's
voices
and
we
pivoted.
C
We
stopped
all
of
the
work
we
were
doing
and
reset
our
timelines
and
engaged
in
the
fall
of
2019
in
a
series
of
community
meetings,
and
every
meeting
was
about
the
gender
equity
commission
listening
promising
to
do
better
and
also
explaining
how
we'd
gotten,
where
we'd
gotten-
and
I
think
in
my
experience
and
I've,
been
in
pittsburgh
10
years
and
then
been
doing
this
kind
of
work
elsewhere.
I
have
never
seen
something
that
actually
put
into
practice
community
leading
priorities.
C
So
it
wasn't
just
you
know,
we're
setting
up
a
meeting.
Here's
the
agenda,
it's
2
30
on
a
wednesday
downtown.
It
was.
Where
are
we
going
to
meet
that
everyone
can
come?
How
are
we
going
to
decide
who
is
going
to
set
the
agenda
and
we
didn't
set
the
agenda
and
in
fact
I
think,
for
some
commissioners
it
was
probably
an
uncomfortable
place
to
be
because
many
of
them
are
professionals
and
experts
in
their
own
area.
But
I
think
that
we
were
practicing
what
might
be
called
cultural
humility.
C
I
read
that
report
again
and
again
in
draft
stages
and
cried
because
I
don't
want
that
to
be
a
reflection
of
the
city
I
live
in,
so
just
to
acknowledge
that
it
is.
It
is
a
very,
very
painful
depiction
of
inequalities,
but
the
good
thing
is,
I
think,
very
few
people
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
even
prior
to
recent
events,
could
maintain
a
sense
of
ignorance
about
these
realities
and
so
force.
C
It's
a
very
uncomfortable
thing
to
talk
about
race,
to
talk
about
inequality
for
anyone,
but
we
have
to
talk
about
it.
We're
never
gonna
fix
it
by
continuing
to
practice,
colorblindness
or
other
failed
ways
of
getting
to
equity.
So
so
I
would
say
that
the
report
it
was
it
was
a
very
emotionally
intense
time,
and
yet
I
feel
it
was
putting
into
practice
genuine
equity,
which
is
hard
when
you're
doing
it.
It's
not
easy,
and
it's
not
quick.
That's
probably
the
way
that
we
know
we're
actually
doing
something
right.
A
It
sounds
like
an
extraordinary
opportunity
because,
if
you're,
looking,
if
you're
doing
a
local
scan
of
just
pittsburgh,
there's
extraordinary
systemic
and
structural
realities
that
you
will
uncover
and
that
you
can
appreciate
and
in
some
ways
try
to
figure
out,
you
know
how
to
affect
and
influence
and
change,
and
all
that
stuff
and-
and
some
of
that
takes
a
long
time.
Some
of
that
is
already
in
the
work.
Some
of
that
hasn't
even
been,
you
know,
been
approached,
but
what,
if
you
are
keeping
it
to
a
local
stan
scan
of
of
pittsburgh?
A
My
brother's
keeper
has
an
initial
race
and
gender
focus.
There's
an
initial
strong
focus
on
black
men
and
boys.
That
was
in
the
original
framework
that
the
obama
administration
put
together
and
that
the
original
mbk
playbook
for
pittsburgh
and
allegheny
county
crafted
and
said.
Okay,
let's
take
a
look
at
black
men
and
boys
to
begin
with
and
see
what
we
can
find
from
a
data
perspective
to
articulate
the
opportunity
and
achievement
gaps,
the
things
like
the
digital
divide,
or
involvement
with
the
criminal
justices
justice
system.
A
What
have
you
as
a
place
to
start,
and
this
there's
this
idea
of?
Well,
we
we
have
a
concept
that
there
have
been
persistent
gaps
in
achievement
and
opportunity
and
if,
if
you
solve
for
where
it's
the
most
blatant,
then
you
kind
of
solve
for
the
rest
by
default.
But
at
no
point
was
it
a
rigorous
academic
or
empirical
analysis
of
this.
A
You
know,
broaden
the
scope
and
and
yet
for
me,
I
look
at
the
gender
equity
report
and
it
in
many
ways
builds
on
and
deepens
the
understanding
around
these
same
very
issues
because
you
know
plot
twist.
It
wasn't
a
great
analysis
when
we
did
it
about
black
men
and
boys
for
the
mbk
playbook
right.
So
it
wasn't.
A
A
You
know
to
me
to
individuals
that
I
know
in
community
and
the
pain
and
the
anguish
and
and
the
and
the
frustration
of
trying
to
advocate,
in
some
cases
when
you're,
literally
your
own
health
and
feeling
like
you,
are
not
being
taken
seriously
or
you're
being
outright
denied
or
you
don't
have
access
and
all
of
these
things
where
it
stops
being
esoteric
very
quickly.
And
it's
like
that's
that
one
story
that
that
person
told
me
about
their
time
going
to
the
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
right.
A
B
Where
we
do
have
you
know
the
commission
on
human
relations,
it
does
have
protections
for
sex,
gender
identity,
expression,
sexual
orientation,
pregnancy.
So
those
are
things
that
if
you
have
housing,
public
accommodations
employment
concerns.
Someone
fires
you
because
of
your
gender
identity,
or
you
know,
is
denying
you
housing
because
they
don't
want.
You
know
they.
They
think
you
know
they
don't
want
you
in
their
rental.
You
know
that
is
illegal
and
you
know
it
is
something
that
you
know.
Not.
B
Everyone
in
the
lgbtqia
plus
community
knows
that
and
not
any
everybody
in
the
general
community
knows
that.
So
you
know
it
is
it's
part
of
it
is
looking
at
what
are
the
protections
we
have
now?
How
do
we
make
sure
people
understand
them
and
how
do
we
kind
of
increase
those
protections
so
that
there
is?
B
So
if
you
feel
that
you
know
you've
applied
to
a
job
and
as
a
trans
woman,
you
didn't
get
that
job
because
you
felt
like
they,
they
were,
they
denied
you
because
of
your
identity.
You
know
that's
something
that
you
could
reach
out
to
them
and
that
you
know
there
are
repercussions
for
those
employers
or
housing
providers.
B
C
I
I
think
tiffany
just
mentioned
so
many
important
things.
I
think
two
words
are
coming
to
my
mind
and
one
is
this
question
of
accountability,
and
I
think
this
is
a
national
conversation.
That's
absolutely
happening
about
people
being
held
accountable
for
casual
racism
to
to
benign
neglect
right
that
that
when
we
know
people
are
not
getting
equal
opportunities
and
when
we
know
people
are
actually
dying,
dying,
younger
or
dying
because
of
police
violence
that
we
all
have
to
hold
ourselves
and
each
other
accountable
in
a
way.
C
Both
for
myself,
because
I
think
you
know
we
are
driven
by
self-interest,
but
that
I
want
to
be
able
to
look
around
and
say
I
could
be
anyone
in
my
society
and
that
would
be
okay,
and
so
I
think
success
can
be
redefined
and
there
are
there's
I'll
just
end
with
it's
there's
a
moral
imperative.
Absolutely
but
there's
a
business
case
there.
C
Everyone
is
pointing
to
how
the
more
diversity
and
inclusion
we
have,
the
more
that
people
are
able
to
actually
be
a
part
of
the
fabric
of
our
communities
fully
and
not
be
marginalized.
The
better
off
all
of
us
are-
and
you
alluded
to
this-
so
I
think
that
really
redefining
success.
As
I
can
look
around
proudly
and
say
you
know,
this
is
not.
This
is
a
society
where
everyone
is
actually
treated
equally.
A
Yeah,
it's
really
wonderful!
Thank
you!
So
much
both
of
you,
for
you
know,
for
those
considerations.
Let's
bring
the
conversation
to
a
close,
any
final
encouragements
tiffany,
we'll
start
with
you
and
then
and
then
anew
bring
us
home
on
just
other
places
to
get
resources
things
you
might
want
folks
to
consider
or
just
anything,
you're,
proud
or
excited
about
coming
up
in
the
coming
days
and
weeks.
B
Yeah,
so
I
I
would
just
say
in
terms
of
the
lgbtqa
plus
advisory
council,
just
keep
an
eye
out.
We
will
be
having
some
communications
around
that
moving
towards
a
commission.
We
will
also
be
working
with
some
local
organizations
around
some
events
for
pride.
You
know,
we
know
it's
a
very
different
reality
right
now
and
that
we're
not
able
to
gather
in
large
groups
and
to
be
able
to
show
who
we
are
in
the
streets
like
we
would
like
to.
C
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
both,
I
feel
like
it.
You
know
in
days
when
it
feels
very
difficult
that
this
kind
of
conversation
is
really
energizing
and
I
think
the
kindness
and
the
willingness
to
think
critically
you
know
combined
the
national
dialogue,
could
benefit
from
people
sitting
down
and
talking
to
each
other
in
this
manner.
So,
thank
you
so
much
both
of
you
for
all
you
teach
me
and
for
modeling,
just
a
way,
a
way
to
be.
A
You
know
for
them
and
then
to
the
point
that
tiffany
was
making.
I
mean
what
better
encouragement
could
there
be
for
folks
that
were
being
you
know,
impacted
by
these
realities
to
find
that
there
is
recourse
and
resources
and
counsel
and
love
and
understanding
you
know
for
them
and
and
so
anyways.
I
want
to
thank
you
both
because
I
have
learned
a
lot
on
this
on
this
conversation
and
I
think
in
many
ways.
That's
that's
the
point.
A
It's
less
about
everyone,
understanding
the
same
thing
and
reciting
it
in
unison,
it's
about
us
all
being
on
our
learning
journey
and
extending
each
other
grace
as
we
as
we
do
it
all
for
the
for
the
benefit
of
everybody
living.
That's
near
us
everywhere,
that's
living
in
our
society
and
community,
and
while
I'm
thanking
people
I'd
like
to
thank
our
two
asl
interpreters,
megan
and
iris
for
their
time
and
attention,
we
always
appreciate
having
you
all
along.
A
You
know
for
these
conversations
we're
going
to
continue
with
this
equity
series
and
other
public-facing
broadcasts
along
these
lines
in
the
coming
days
and
weeks.
So
please
keep
an
eye
out
for
that.
In
the
meantime,
please
check
out
the
resources
that
we've
been
posted
in
the
chat
we'll
post
some
more
later,
so
folks
can
do
deeper
dives.
You
can
see
contact
information
there
and
get
involved
to
the
extent
that
makes
sense
for
you.
But
in
the
meantime,
please
take
the
very
best
care
of
yourselves
and
we'll
see
you
next.