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From YouTube: Equity Series: Equity in City Planning Programs
Description
Department of City Planning officials discussed their department's programs for housing, registered community organizations and ADA compliance, and how recognizing the intersections of equity within their programs are critical to planning an inclusive city for all.
A
A
Today
we
have
iris
and
vega
that
you'll
see
at
different
times
during
the
broadcast.
We
want
to
thank
them
for
coming
along
with
us
today,
and
what
I'll
do
without
further
ado
is
just
get
to
a
round
of
introductions
we
get
into
the
meat
of
this
conversation.
There's
a
bunch
of
interesting
terms.
A
bunch
of
interesting
areas
of
work
that'll
be
a
lot
of
fun
to
explore
with
these
folks.
B
C
A
B
You
know
whether
that
is
the
work
that
our
public,
art
and
civic
design
division
is
doing
around:
managing
the
city's
art
commission
and
working
on
the
city's
public
art
collection,
whether
that's
our
sustainability
and
resilience
team.
That
is
leading
the
work
that
we're
doing
around
the
climate
action
plan
or
whether
that's
our
strategic
planners,
many
of
which
you
know
christopher
osei
and
hillary
are
all
part
of,
and
you
know
that
division
really
focuses
on
policy,
so
developing
the
city's
zoning
code,
which
is
the
regulations
that
we
have
around.
B
You
know
where
buildings
can
go,
how
that
how
they
can
be
built
and
what
types
of
things
need
to
be
there
to
support
them.
Two
larger
planning
efforts
which
we'll
talk
about
that.
You
know
that
both
affect
the
city
and
neighborhood
scales,
and
so
last
time
we
were
talking
a
lot
around
equity
and
public
engagement
and
some
of
the
improvements
and
things
that
the
departments
introduced
to
ensure
greater
equity
in
the
planning
process.
B
And
so
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
programs.
So
some
of
the
outputs
of
that
work,
whether
that
is
work
that
is
going
on
around
housing.
You
know,
starting
with
the
city's,
affordable
housing
task
force
and
and
moving
forward
to
the
work
that
we
have
done
relative
to
persons
with
disabilities,
and
you
know
our
work
under
the
ada
as
well.
A
Terrific
thank
you
director
and
I
welcome
the
chance
to
to
speak
with
you
all
again,
not
just
because
you're
interesting,
but
because
it's
a
cool
opportunity
to
get
it
to
take
the
conversation
from
what
can
often
be
an
esoteric
kind
of
conversation
and
down
into
the
details
and
down
into
how
this
actually
impacts.
People
christopher
I'd
like
to
turn
to
you
for
those
that
that
maybe
didn't
catch
the
last
broadcast.
Could
you
just
summarize
your
role?
A
C
One
is
one
that
comes
to
mind.
Is
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance
offered
by
the
housing
opportunity
fund,
where
it
assists
first
time
home
buyers
with
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance,
which
we
understand
that
can
be
a
burden
to
owning
a
home
and
though
we
understand
that
homeownership
isn't,
for.
Everyone
is
kind
of
you
know,
working
with
different
nonprofits
throughout
the
city
and
incorporating
those
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
type
of
avenue
for
home
owner
home
ownership.
C
Yeah,
so
both
the
housing
authority
and
the
ura
has
their
website
and
they
actually
list
contacts
and
anyone
who's
curious
about
the
programs
that
either
authority
offer,
I
feel
free
to
check
out
their
websites
and
take
a
look
and
call
someone.
Usually
they
have
a
contact
and
they're
more
than
welcome
to
call
and
get
more
information
about
those
programs.
A
Terrific
tell
us
about
and
want
to
shout
out
our
teammate
molly,
who
does
a
great
job
with
making
sure
that
the
chats
are
linked
up
with
these
resources.
For
folks,
we
do
encourage
people
to
do
a
deeper
dive
with
those
materials,
as
they're
shared
tell
us
a
little
bit
about.
What's
going
on
with
inclusionary
zoning
and
lawrenceville
united
in
particular,.
C
Yeah,
so
this
is
exciting.
Inclusionary
zoning
actually
came
out
of
the
housing
needs
assessment
that
was
done
in
2015
and
the
housing.
The
affordable
housing
task
force
actually
promoted
this
and
said,
there's
a
need
for
inclusionary
housing
and
zoning.
So
what
we
did?
We
partnered
with
the
lawrenceville
united,
an
organization
in
lawrenceville
to
seek
opportunities
to
create
more
permanent,
affordable
affordability
in
our
housing.
Stop
the
reason
this
is
so
important
to
do
so
and
when
we
did
the
housing
needs
assessment.
We
it
was
identified
that
we
were
missing
about
20
million
20
000.
C
Excuse
me,
20,
000,
housing
units
to
close
the
gap
for
affordability
and
so
working
with
lawrenceville,
united
and
creating
an
inclusionary
zoning
district
or
overlay
actually
promotes
permanent
affordability
and
permanent
housing,
and
so
that
is
something
that
has
been
in
the
works
for
quite
some
time.
We
are
happy
to
continue
those
conversations
with
lawrenceville
united
and
we
are
currently
in
the
process
of
making
that
more
of
a
permanent
overlay
district
with
the
group
in
place
in
lawrenceville.
C
A
C
Yeah,
the
that's
really
an
interesting
question,
because
a
lot
of
cities
kind
of
wait
until
it's
too
late
right
and
so
what
pittsburgh
we're
doing
is
trying
to
get
ahead
of
it
and
doing
while
we're
getting
development.
So
developments
happening
in
lawrenceville
ways
to
kind
of
eliminate
displacement
and
create
more
opportunity
for
home
ownership
in
a
such
a
dense
area
and
such
an
area
that
is
experiencing
so
much
growth
and
development.
C
Inclusionary
zoning
will
be
it,
and
so
we'll
take
a
look
and
right
now
it's
a
pilot
program,
if
you
will
and
so
we're
taking
a
look
at
how
it's
working,
creating
best
practices
and
looking
to
other
cities
too,
is
like
case
studies
and
really
listening
to
residents
who
are
benefiting
from
it
before
we
even
think
of
extending
it
to
other
neighborhoods.
But
again.
That
is
something
that
different
neighborhoods
are
kind
of
experiencing
from
a
non-profit,
but
not
from
this
from
our
department.
A
B
It
is,
and
so
I
think,
when
the
affordable
housing
task
force
came
up
with
the
numbers
and
and
let
us
know
that
there
was
such
a
gap
for
affordability
in
the
city,
we
knew
that
we
had
to
try
to
tackle
the
problem
in
multiple
different
ways,
and
so
christopher
talked
about
the
work
that
the
urban
redevelopment
authority
has
done
with
the
housing
opportunity
fund.
You
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
around
things.
You
know
like
the
nine
percent
tax
credits
and
things
to
develop,
affordable
housing.
B
The
city
can
can
try
to
move
forward
on,
but
also
trying
what
inclusionary
zoning
does.
Is
it
the
private?
It
affects
the
private
market,
and
it
has
the
private
market
help
us
in
trying
to
develop
additional,
affordable
units
for
our
residents,
and
so
each
one
of
these
things
is
not
something
that
can
take
on
the
problem
by
itself,
but
they're
all
pieces
to
how
we
can
try
to
encourage
more
affordability
and
more
affordable
units
in
developments
as
development
is
coming
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
A
B
There
are,
there
are
hundreds
of
cities
across
the
country
that
have
that
have
used
inclusionary
zoning
as
a
tool
to
provide
additional
affordability.
You
know,
and-
and
you
know,
we're
you
know-
we've
been
able
to
to
base
our
work
on
a
lot
of
those
best
practices.
We
also
as
we
were
moving
through
the
affordable
housing
task
force.
Work
worked
with,
you
know,
worked
with
the
non-profit,
the
grounded
solutions
network
which,
which
also
does
a
lot
of
assistance
for
inclusionary
zoning
and
affordable
housing
issues.
A
A
D
Of
course,
we
were
discussing
equity
within
neighborhood
planning
as
christopher
referenced,
and
I
was
more
so
discussing
the
greater
hazelwood
neighborhood
plan
just
because
of
things
surrounding
that
plan
because
of
its
role
prior
to
certain
policy
documents
such
as
the
neighborhood
plan
guide.
The
public
engagement
guide
things
of
that
nature,
and
then
today
I
will
be
discussing
those
just
just
or
referencing
them
just
a
little
bit
just
because
of
the
equality
related
to
those
documents,
transitioning
that
into
registered
community
organizations
and
the
equity
assessment
related
to
that.
A
D
Part
of
me
I'll.
Let
me
backtrack
a
little
bit
outline
within
that
guide.
The
neighborhood
plan
guy.
There
are
four
chapters
that
are
the
community
development,
mobility
and
infrastructure
and
again,
like
I
said,
it's
bringing
equality
to
that
process
and
again
in
most
in
most
cases,
people
use
the
terms,
equality
and
eq
and
equity
interchangeably,
and
I
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
saying
that
the
neighborhood
plan
guide
is
bringing
equality
to
that
process.
D
But
how
we
utilize
this
document
and
how
we
work
with
these
communities
ensures
that
there
is
equity
within
this
process
and
again,
the
registered
community
organization,
which
I
will
be
focusing
on
today,
just
because
of
the
type
of
assessments
that
we
will
be
doing.
Moving
forward
again
like
for
the
equity
team
within
the
department
which
hillary
is
a
part
of,
we
are
utilizing
a
quantitative
as
well
as
qualitative
approach
to
assessing
this.
D
However,
like
we
are
looking
at
a
broader
approach
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
these
things
are
mitigated-
or
these
issues
are
mitigated
and
along
with
this-
there
are
capacity
issues
and
ensuring
that
these
development
issues
related
to
the
framework.
That
is
the
registered
community
organization
process,
because
you
have
to
be
a
501c3
and
ensuring
that
that
is
not
a
barrier
to
entry,
as
it
relates
to
making
sure
that
they
are
integrated
into
this
development
process,
and
that
has
not
really
been
a
problem.
D
A
meeting
like
zoni
will
notify
you
previously,
but
you
are
not
required
to
as
a
developer
notify
these
organizations,
but
that
is
not
a
barrier
like
we
want
to
ensure
that
that
is
not
a
barrier
to
entry
and
that
they
are
meeting
all
of
their
meeting
with
all
of
these
communities
and
that
everyone
has
a
voice,
and
everyone
is
at
the
table
related
to,
regardless
of
any
issues
or
any
organizational
structure.
Anything
like
that
and
asking
those
hard
questions
related
to
your
organizations
and
making
sure
you
have
the
capacity,
and
that
is
exact.
Sorry.
A
All
right
so
a
couple
clarifying
questions,
so
you
mentioned
this
idea
of
of
equality
versus
equity
and
then
having
a
voice
in
the
process
that
tracks
to
me
to
my
understanding
of
equity.
I
remember
being
in
the
nonprofit
space
when,
when
I
first
encountered
the
registered
community
organization
idea
and
this-
and
there
was
some
confusion
around
it,
because
it
seemed
to
be
like
so
who
gets
to
be-
gets
to
be
that
right.
A
What
you're
saying
is
that
to
be
an
rco,
you
have
to
be
a
501c3
and
that
they
are
in
in
essence,
deputized
or
there's
a
there's
kind
of
a
systemic
reality
imposed
where
the
developers
have
to
speak
with
this
with
this
rco,
but
then
there's
an
encouragement
for
them
to
to
engage
broadly
in
the
community
with
other
non-profits
community
groups
and
community
leaders.
But
the
rco
kind
of
provides
this
understood
conduit
for
that
kind
of
back
and
forth.
Am
I
am
I
off
track
there.
D
B
Sure
so
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
I
mean
the
way
that
the
registered
community
organization
program
was
set
up.
Was
you
know,
I
think
that
there's
an
understanding
that,
in
community
engagement
a
lot
of
times
the
city
reaches
out
to
neighborhood
organizations,
there's
a
there
was
an
understanding
that
the
system
you
know
and
who
we
interact
with
at
community
organizations
generally
skewed.
You
know
wider
skewed
more
towards
homeowners,
it
skewed
higher
income
than
our
demographics
as
a
whole,
and
I
think
we,
you
know
we're
you
know.
B
So
we
set
up
the
registered
community
organization
program
to
really
try
to
create
those
ground
rules
for
these
organizations
to
make
sure
that
they
were,
you
know,
reaching
out
to
the
entirety
of
their
community
that
the
involvement
that
they
were
doing
as
organizations
was
really
trying
to
bring
representative.
You
know
slice
of
the
population
of
these
neighborhoods
and
that
in
exchange
for
that,
what
we
were
going
to
do
was
bring
developers
to
them.
You
know
to
have
the
public
process
happen
in
the
community
as
well
as
before.
B
The
only
thing
that
was
required
was
that
that
public
hearing
happened
downtown
and
then
the
other
side
of
that
was
that
we
wanted
to
marry
this
with
the
neighborhood
planning
program
so
that
we
were
doing
neighborhood
plans
in
those
places
and
giving
and
giving
those
communities
neighborhood
plans
if
they
were
like.
I
said
you
know,
meeting
those
kind
of
those
kind
of
basic
requirements,
and
so
you
know
the
work
that
we've
got
right
now
is
you
know,
out
of
the
24
registered
community
organizations
that
we
have
across
the
city?
B
The
majority
of
those
are
unstaffed
organizations,
so
they
are
resident
driven
organizations.
So
15
of
those
are
unstaffed
resident-driven
organizations,
and
you
know,
and
and
part
of
jose's
work
and
part
of
the
work
that
she's
doing
is.
Is
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we've
is
that
only
seven
of
those
24
are
in
minority
majority
communities?
You
know
in
you
know,
essentially
black
communities
in
pittsburgh
and
so
really
trying
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
seeing
all
right
well,
why
is
that?
A
Thank
you.
That's
that's
useful,
so
jose.
Would
you
say
that
it's?
How
do
you
engage
with
these
organizations?
Do
you
encourage
them
to
do
their
own
kind
of
outreach?
I
mean,
if
there's
one,
that's
an
unstaffed
organization.
The
implication
to
me
is
that
this
is
largely.
You
know,
community
folks
that
have
gotten
together
to
form
this
rco.
It
could
be
mistaken
there,
but,
given
that
there
are
likely,
even
in
these
communities
that
are
are
led
by
rcos
of
color
other
organizations,
nonprofits
leaders
etc.
How
do
you
encourage
them
to
interact
with
with
their
community.
D
So,
basically,
of
course
like
within
the
public
engagement
guide,
we
we
act.
We
encourage
them
to
utilize
the
public
engagement
guide,
of
course,
and
then
there
are
different
tools
within
that
public
engagement
guide,
of
course,
communication
strategy.
So
on
so
forth,
but
of
course
like
many
people,
they
have
these
hands-on
approach.
They
know
how
to
engage
members
of
their
communities
and
we
do
not.
A
D
Yes,
so
that'll
be
going,
live
pretty
soon
through,
engage,
pretty
engage
pgh
there
you
go
so
look
for
it
and
again.
The
equity
team
is
in
the
finalizing
stages
of
developing
that,
based
in
rcos
non-rcos,
just
trying
to
especially
get
those
polarized
communities
that
are
most
likely
because
in
most
cases
is
black
or
white
when
we
discuss
race
within
pittsburgh,
but
of
course
just
trying
to
get
those
other
populations,
the
immigrant
immigrant
populations,
the
lgbtq
plus
population,
the
except
accessible
handy,
handy
cat,
sorry,
not
handicap.
D
A
A
And
then
how
are
are
folks
able
to
be
intentional
about
reaching
out
to
folks
outside
of
your
own
circle,
recognizing
the
reality
of
intersectionality
and
the
unique
opportunity
to
engage
people
in
this
process?
To
your
point,
there
might
still
be
barriers
that
we're
working
on,
but
there
have
been
barriers
in
the
past
and
even
something
like
director
dash
mentioned
where
there
might
have
been.
There
might
have
been
this
expectation
or
guideline
that
there
had
to
be
a
meeting,
but
it
was
downtown.
A
Well,
that's
not
extreme,
not
very
accessible
to
a
lot
of
folks
of
different
abilities,
but
also
just
of
different
work
patterns,
and
so
to
the
extent
you
can,
you
can
engage
people
in
conversation
and
community
around
this
and
that's
what
this
seems
really
well
set
up
to
do
before.
I
turn
to
hillary
I'd
like
to
ask
about
just
your
your
thoughts
on
say
on
the
role
of
race
and
intersectionality
and
planning.
A
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
it
already,
even
just
what
you
shared,
but
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
right
now
around
this
idea
of
justice
and
this
idea
of
of
acknowledging
and
repairing
the
history
of
of
society,
and
certainly
just
community
here
in
pittsburgh.
Where
does
your
mind
go
with
those
topics
and
what
would
you
share
with
us
about
it.
D
Sure
so
immediately,
I
think
of
restorative
justice,
and
to
me
like
that.
That
is
not
something
that
of
course
me
personally,
I
am
not
able
to
do
and
as
working
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
like
that
is
something
that
is
a
broader
idea
that
we
as
a
community
need
to
focus
on.
I
am
not
going
to
pinpoint
one
person,
but
that
is
something
that
needs
to
happen.
That
is
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
D
Sorry,
that
is
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
That
intersectionality,
like,
of
course
race,
is
a
a
major
topic
and
again
during
covet
there
was
there
was
something
that
came
to
the
forefront
that
was
beyond
black
or
white
here
in
pittsburgh
that
needed
to
be
addressed
as
a
woman
of
color
as
a
black
woman.
Of
course,
that
was
a
major
issue
for
me,
and
I'm
not
going
to.
D
That
is
something
that
he
was
discussing
earlier,
these
populations
that
we
need
to
deal
with
and
then,
of
course,
like
I
was
saying
the
polarized
populations
here
within
pittsburgh,
because
again
it's
either
black
or
white,
but
there
are
polarized
populations
here
within
pittsburgh
that
need
to
be
address
these
immigrant
populations,
the
lgbtq
queer.
However,
we,
however,
we
should
and
properly
need
to
address
them
and
then,
of
course,
these
the
accessibility
of
our
city,
which
hillary
will
be
addressing
in
the
next
few
few
minutes.
D
These
are
at
the
forefront
of
everything
we
do
moving
forward
and
you
can
see
that
as
we
develop
these
policy
documents
as
the
neighborhood
plan
guide,
as
we
have
these
different
policy
experts
as
hillary
as
domi,
within
how
we
plan
moving
forward
and
again
that's
what
I
was
saying
about
these
equality
equality
moving
forward
moving
forward
as
we
plan
for
not
only
our
neighborhoods
but
as
our
city
as
a
whole,
with
our
comprehensive
planning
and
then
having
that
equity
in
place
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
A
I
do
want
to
turn
to
hillary
to
get
into
more
of
what
she
does.
I
would
say
I
wondered:
if
are
you
hopeful
about
this?
Is
this?
Is
this
a
time
for
folks
to
lean
in?
I
I
hear-
and
you
guys
have
pointed
to
so
many
examples
of
where
just
the
department
of
city
planning
alone
has
moved
in
this
direction.
There
are
newer
tools.
A
There
are
new,
newer
policies,
implemented,
there's
encouragement
for
folks
to
engage
and
also
philosophy
about
meeting
people
where
they're
at
all
of
these
are
things
that
you
could
say,
represent
a
different
approach,
maybe
from
times
past
and
represent
more
access
and
innovation
over
time
in
the
direction
of
people's
benefit.
You
know
to
reach
them
with
that,
but
also
to
to
engage
with
them
in
ways
that
make
sense
for
them.
When
you
think
about
this
and
the
work
that
you
do
or
say,
is
this
a
time
for
folks
to
lean
in?
A
E
E
E
Sure
so
the
americans,
with
disabilities
act,
was
signed
into
law
in
1990.
So
it's
it's
crazy
that
it's
not
actually
that
old.
There
were
a
number
of
protective
laws
before
that:
the
rehabilitation
act,
it's
a
civil
rights
law
and
so
at
first
you
know,
disability
was
explicitly
not
it
wasn't
addressed
or
it
wasn't
addressed
explicitly.
I
guess
is
a
better
way
of
saying
that,
and
so
essentially
the
ada
is
a
very
special
law,
because
it's
the
first
law
that
really
explicitly
states
like
this
is
for
you.
E
This
is
to
make
sure
that
every
everybody
with
a
disability
can
we,
you
know
we
make
sure
that
we
can
get
them
the
access
that
they
need
and
they
deserve,
and
so
that's
really
like
the
broadest
way
that
I
can
that
I
can
put
it,
but
it
really
it
touches
everything
it
can
look
like
you
know
it's
like
you
said
what
I
do
is
basically
compliance.
You
know
and
and
that's
true,
but
we
try
to
expand
that
to
making
things
more
inclusive,
because
there's
there's
definitely
a
difference
between
that.
A
Sure
so
I
want
to
get
into
that
into
that
balance.
Let's
start
with
the
term
disability.
This
is
something
that's
in
the
name,
it's
in
the
term
itself.
It's
also
something
that
I
have
heard
used
with
a
certain
stigma
attached,
but
it's
also
something.
It's
also
a
term
that
I've
heard
used
in
what
I
would
say
is
restored
in
a
restorative
sense
and
like
a
claiming
of
this
term
with
appropriate
definition.
So
language
is
very
important
for
for
the
work
that
you
do.
E
People
with
disabilities
are
just
like
any.
You
know
any
other
group
of
people,
not
a
monolith,
and
so
I
can't
you
know,
speak
for
everyone,
but
I
can
tell
you
the
history
of
how
we've
come
to
think
about
it.
The
main
thing,
the
main
most
important
thing
best
practices
for
everyone
is
person
first
language,
so
you
you
wouldn't
want
it's
basically
saying
like
a
person,
who's
disabled,
you
know,
but
then
other
communities
it
can
be
confusing,
because
some
people
prefer
to
be
called.
E
You
know
a
deaf
person,
not
a
person
who
is
deaf,
and
so
it
can
be
a
little
bit
confusing,
but
the
the
heart
of
it
is
maybe
just
the
most
important
thing
to
remember
is
that
you're
defining
a
person
by
their
humanity
and
not
by
their
disability.
So
that's
kind
of
like
the
easiest
heuristic
I
can
use
for
people.
There
is
a
strong
movement
to
reclaim
and
accept
the
term
disability,
which
is
what
you
are
referencing.
E
What
I've
seen
is.
It
can
sometimes
be
sort
of
considered
condescending
by
certain
groups
of
people
with
disabilities
to
call
them.
You
know
differently
abled,
for
example,
and
I
think
there's
an
understanding
that
that's
meant
with
the
best
of
intentions,
but
it
can
kind
of
seemingly
imply
that
disability
is
something
to
be
euphemized
or
something
to
be
ashamed
of,
and
so
that's
kind
of
why
there
has
been
that
reclaiming
among
many
people
in
disability
communities
to
just
really
accept
the
term
disability
and
change
the
meaning
of
it's.
Not
it's
not
a
negative
thing.
A
E
You
know
people
in
bio,
peace
by
poc
communities
and
plus
communities,
and
you
know
the
activist
community
is
starting
to
get
back
to
that
70s
vibe.
But,
like
you
know,
we
we
don't
need
to
experience
what
you're
experiencing
to
speak
up
for
you
to
have
empathy,
to
try
to
learn
from
you
and
do
better.
A
A
So
I'd
like
to
get
back
to
your
idea
of
inclusivity
versus
compliance,
because
it
would
seem
that
on
on
its
face,
this
idea
of
using
people
first
language
of
respecting
how
people
would
prefer
that
you
refer
to
them
and
also
advocating
on
their
behalf,
whether
that's
through
advocacy
or
design
is
all
inclusion
is
all
inclusion.
But
yet
a
lot
of
what
you
do
has
to
do
with
compliance.
So
speak
to
us
a
little
bit
about
that
balance
and
how
you
think
of
the
term.
Compliance
within
this
realm.
E
Sure
so
an
entity
can
be
completely
ada
compliant
without
doing
anything.
So
essentially,
that's
not
really
true,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
like
you
could,
instead
of
trying
to
start
a
program,
that's
inclusive
and
designed
for
everybody
who
has
every
type
of
disability,
you
know
that's
very
difficult
and
it
can
be
overwhelming
for
people
and
it
can
also
induce
liability
right
and
so
like.
If
you,
if
you're
unwilling,
to
make
a
program
accessible
for
people,
then
you
could
be
opening
yourself
up
to
be
sued
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
E
You
know
this
entities,
you
know,
government
entities
will
just
not
do
it
and
so
that's
compliant,
but
it's
not
inclusive,
and
so
I
kind
of
try
to
push
people.
I
had
directed
ask
your
body
because
I
try
to
push.
You
know
people
to
take
a
little
bit
more
risks.
You
know
and-
and
I
think
you
know
we
will
fail,
but
I
think
seeking
out
failures
inevitably,
because
we
can't
think
of
everything
I
mean
universal
design
is
a
term
that
we
throw
around
and
we
always
are
aiming
for
it.
But
it's
pretty
hard
to
have
everything.
E
A
E
Yeah
for
me
being
in
city
planning-
and
you
know
the
way
that
I
interface
with
their
their
88
coordinators
for
everything.
You
know
the
airport
has
ada
coordinators,
non-profit
coordinators,
and
so
it
can
kind
of
look
like
a
lot
of
things.
But
you
know
it
can
sort
of
look
like
one
of
the
things
that
we
hear.
A
lot
is
that
you
know
something
was
designed
for
them
as
sort
of
an
active
thought.
E
So
it
was
designed
for
you
know
your
your
able-bodied
person,
and
this
is
where
we
get
into
ableism,
and
then
there
wasn't
a
door
that
you
know
was
accessible
it
had.
You
know
the
type
of
handle
where
somebody
who
didn't
have
you
know
might
have
had
like
might
have
certain
type
of
disability.
They
couldn't
turn
the
knob,
and
so
then
you
have
to
get
into
going
backwards
and
fixing
it,
and
it
kind
of
you
know
just
makes
everything
harder
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
you
might
encounter
for
me.
E
I
I
tend
to
encounter
it
more
in
like
infrastructure
and
traffic,
and
I
don't
tend
to
do
as
much
like
employment
type
stuff,
but
that's
part
of
it
too.
Communications
like
this
zoom
that
we're
having
somebody
being
able
to
access
something
in
braille
or
getting
an
interpreter
so
that
they
can
intend
to
attend
a
public
meeting
or
making
sure
they
have
a
parking
spot.
I
mean
I
could
do.
I
could
go.
A
And
while
you're
in
the
department
of
city
planning
you're
a
city-wide
resource,
is
that
correct?
So
folks
had
say
I
my
role
as
a
blend
of
the
mayor's
office
in
park
say
we
wanted
to
do
an
activation,
cobit
safe
within
the
parks,
and
we
had
some
questions
around
ada
implications.
This
is
something
that
we,
as
a
city
parks
team,
could
reach
out
to
you
about
yep.
E
Yep,
I'm
I'm
here
for
the
whole
city,
so
yeah,
it's
I'm
in
city
planning
and
that's
a
really
great
place
for
me
to
be.
It
enables
me
to
like
touch
a
lot
of
things
and
touch
a
lot
of
policy,
but
also
be
connected
to
infrastructure,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
unique
place
for
me
to
be
but
yeah
I'm.
When
people
talk
about
government
silos,
I'm
like
what
silos
I'm
all
over
the.
E
Which
is
great
because
I've
only
been
here
for
a
year,
my
work
anniversary
is
september
9th,
and
I've
only
been
here
for
a
year
and
I've
already
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
so
many.
So
many
of
our
you
know,
colleagues
and
chiefs
and
directors-
and
you
know
I
have
to
you-
know
shout
out
to
director
dash
because
he's
definitely
empowered
me
to
just
go
forth
and
you
know,
learn
what
I
need
to
learn
and
connect
with
who
I
need
to
connect
with
and
he's
always
very
supportive
in
that
regard.
A
Yeah,
it's
terrific.
I
find
that
it's
the
easiest
to
talk
about
silos
from
within
them,
and
if
you,
if
you
just
take
a
different
approach,
you
find
ways
to
break
those
down
pretty
easily.
Let's
talk
about
ableism.
This
is
a
term
that
I've
learned
more
about
recently.
How
would
you
define
it,
certainly
something
we
could
do
a
whole
other
conversation
about
specifically,
but
for
the
purposes
of
this
conversation,
what
is
the
term
there
and
where
does
your
mind
go
when
you
think
of
it.
E
Sure
ableism
is
a
form
of
discrimination
that
it's
it's
form
of
discrimination
against
people
with
disabilities
in
the
form
of
a
preference
for
able-bodied
people.
That's
like
any
definition
of
the
type
of
discrimination
sounds
really
intense,
but
most
of
the
time
like
most
forms
of
discrimination.
It's
really
not
explicit.
E
It's
implicit
and
it's
kind
of
like
what
we
were
talking
about,
like
the
failure
to
design
something
with
a
person
with
a
mobility
challenge
in
mind
that
that's
a
form
of
ableism
and
just
basically
not
accounting
for
all
users
of
systems,
not
accounting
for
how
what
type
of
users
will
encounter
a
certain
traffic
system
or
a
certain
infrastructure
system
is
again
kind
of
how
I
interact
with
it.
But,
like
I
said
I
a
lot
of
times,
it
mostly
looks
like
I
never.
E
I
never
noticed
how
hard
this
was
until
you
know
I
had
this
hip
replacement
or
you
know
I
lost
a
sensory
ability
or
something
like
that,
and
so
we're
all
guilty
of
ableism
on
some
level
just
like
racism
and
sexism,
and
you
know
every
other
type
of
bad
form
of
discrimination
and
and
most
of
the
time
it's
just
about
thinking.
You
know
teaching
ourselves
and
each
other
how
to
think
about.
How
would
this
look
different?
If
I
didn't
have
you
know
this
capability,
this
physical
or
sensory
or
cognitive
ability.
A
Got
it
and
it
makes
sense
for
a
city
to
take
that
in
mind
increasingly
over
time,
but
there
are
disabilities
beyond
just
physical
ones.
So
I
wonder
how
you
might
encourage
folks
to
learn
more
about
ableism
and
some
of
the
other
terms
you've
mentioned,
so
that
they
can
be
just
better
neighbors
and
more
empathetic
with
others.
E
Sure
so
I
would
say,
you
know,
engage
with
people
and
don't
be
scared
of
it.
I
think
people
sometimes
have
a
fear
that
they're
gonna
do
it
wrong,
and
so
I
would
say,
engage
with
you
know,
nonprofits
community
groups,
I'm
sure
you
have
you
know.
Like
I
said,
disability
is
so
common.
You
probably
have
a
neighbor
or
a
friend
who
could
use
your
help
right
now
and
just
ask
them.
You
know
certainly
don't
run
up
to
somebody
in
a
wheelchair
and
start
pushing
them.
E
That's
a
no-no,
but
there
are
lots
of
ways
you
can
interact.
Personally
or
you
know
you
can
look
at
the
ada
page
on
the
city's
website
and
there
are
lots
of
links
to
you
know
non-profits
and
community
organizations,
but
chances
are
any
organization
you
join
will
have
somebody
with
a
disability
in
it,
and
so
you
can,
you
know
you
can
learn
more
by
kind
of
just
not
being
afraid
to
engage
with
it.
A
Yeah
there
are
some
really
wonderful
voices
in
the
city
on
these
issues,
specifically
that
speak
from
their
own
personal
experience
and
do
a
great
job
of
pointing
to
the
realities
of
others
in
a
thoughtful
way,
so
something
that
folks
can
find
very
easily.
I
encourage
you
to
do
it
so
hillary.
I
understand
that
you
have
a
bit
of
a
debut
for
us.
Can
you
tell
us
about
the
disability
service
facilitator
program?
A
E
Yeah,
so
the
idea
behind
it
is-
and
I
basically
just
ripped
this
off
of
new
york
city,
so
they
use
disability
service
facilitators
too,
and
basically,
you
know
the
rationale
for
it
is
that
the
challenge
of
my
work,
which
you
touched
on,
is
that
you
know
there's
really
only
one
of
me
and
the
city
is
like
3
600,
something
employees,
and
so
you
know
that
that
goes
from.
You
know:
domi,
maintaining
accessible
routes,
you
know
and
with
competing
traffic
needs,
or
you
know,
our
innovation
performance
department.
E
How
do
they
make
sure
everything
we
do
online
is
accessible
or
our
communications
are
accessible
or
our
facilities
or
like
the
mayor's
office?
How
do
we
make
inclusionary
policies,
and
so
the
disability
service
facilitator
program
is
an
attempt
to
kind
of
start
to
improve
our
holistic
approach
to?
How
do
we
resolve
this
and
how
do
we
kind
of
provide
more
of
like
a
wrap
around
services
type
approach
so
that
you
know
if
you
needed
something?
If
you
needed
an
interpreter,
you
may
not.
E
You
know,
I
might
have
17
requests
ahead
of
that
and
so
there's
a
person
in
each
department
who
understands
how
their
work
interfaces
with
the
ada
and
they
can
kind
of
take
on
some
of
those
challenges
and
help
to
connect
the
gaps
in
service,
and
it
was
really.
I
was
mostly
inspired
by
the
30th
anniversary
of
the
ada,
which
was
just
this
past
july.
You
know,
I
think
we
can
always
do
more
and
we
recognize
that
there
are.
You
know
there
are
gaps
for
people.
E
You
know
here
in
pittsburgh
with
disabilities,
and
so
we
want
to
ensure
you
know
more
efficient
and
holistic
service,
and
so
yeah
we've
got
a
disability
service
facilitator
in
each
department.
Now.
Well,
almost
like
I
said
it's
a
brand
new
baby,
so
we're
getting
there.
But
and
then
you
know,
they'll
go
through
a
series
of
trainings
and
and
work
with
me
and
kind
of
learn
how
they
can
kind
of.
You
know,
wrap
their
arms
around
this
and
figure
out
how
to
help
me.
A
That's
terrific,
it's
great
to
hear
about
upskilling
opportunities
for
our
team
members.
Can
you
can
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
the
city
county
task
force
on
disabilities?
I'm
kind
of
confident
in
talking
with
you
that
this
is
a
conversation
centered
on
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
that
this
is
not
a
city
of
pittsburgh,
a
specific
body
of
work
or
focus
area.
What
can
you
talk
to
us
about
the
regional
efforts
related
to
this
and
the
task
force
in
place.
E
You
know
there
are
things
that
both
it's
hard
to
call
the
county,
an
area
because,
if
you're
from
the
city
you're
also
from
you
know
the
county,
but
it's
basically
bringing
perspectives
that
aren't
just
city
focused
to
kind
of
talk
about
things
that
are
coming
up
in
their
community
changes,
things
that
they
can
address.
How
can
they
make
a
policy
recommendation?
You
know
work
with
the
city
work
with
the
county,
and
I
mean
they're,
an
amazing
group
of
advocates.
It's
it's
an
interesting
setup,
because
the
county
provides.
E
You
know
some
of
the
funding
for
it
with
all
the
funding
for
it,
and
I
provide
the
staffing
for
it.
So
a
lot
of
times
people
will
talk
to
me
like
I'm
the
leader
of
the
cctfd,
I'm
not
I'm
just
their
staff
like
I
I'm
basically
just
a
liaison
for
them,
and
so
you
know
I
make
sure
that
they're
connected
to
whoever
they
need
to
be
connected
with
in
the
city.
A
Got
it?
Thank
you
so
much
all
right.
Folks,
I'd
like
to
open
it
back
up
to
everybody
else,
we'll
find
a
place
to
land.
This
conversation,
I'm
just
wondering
now
that
you've
heard
the
entirety
of
it.
If
what
comes
to
mind
or
for
you
all
in
terms
of
what
the
future
looks
like
and
and
the
future
of
the
work
that
you
all
do.
C
I
think
listening
today
from
osei
from
racial
equity
to
hillary
ada
and
the
work
that
I
do
and
housing
and
how
they're
all
kind
of
intersecting
and
how
I
am
always
thinking
about
design
standards
for
zoning
and
residential
and
commercial
buildings
that
actually
work
hand-in-hand
with
the
work
that
hillary
is
doing
for
ada.
So
how
do
we
create
design
standards
that
make
pittsburgh
more
inclusive
for
our
ada
community,
inclusive
housing
for
our
lgbtq
ia,
plus
community,
there's
so
many
communities
and
race?
A
Thank
you,
christopher
yeah.
It
sounds
like
and
just
hearing
this
conversation
alone,
much
less
the
one
we
had
two
weeks
ago
that
there
is
increasingly
something
for
everybody,
and
I
hear
whether
it's
a
general
approach,
programs
or
specific
lines
of
communication
there's
an
ability
to
meet
people
where
they're
at
and
whether
that's
just
general
housing
and
security,
providing
pathways
to
home
ownership,
including
conversations
around
development
at
the
neighborhood
level
or
the
city
level,
and
including
your
economic
realities.
A
Your
your
ability,
realities,
your
racial
realities,
and
it
seems
like
over
time
we're
able
to
do
more
for
more
people
in
a
nuanced
way.
Instead
of
like
this
batch
approach,
it
seems
like
we're
really
able
to
invest
in
a
sense
of
community
down
to
the
individual
level.
I
kind
of
wonder
director
dash
kind
of
a
similar
question.
What
I
asked
to
say
like
are
you?
Are
you
optimistic
about
about
this
era?
Are
you
encouraged
by
what
you're
seeing
and
do
you
think
the
future's
bright
for
for
this
working
for
the
city.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
all
so
very
much.
I
feel
impressed
just
encourage
people
to
to
learn
more
about
this
and
to
share
with
neighbors
that
you
think
might
might
benefit
from
it
and
not
just
with
this,
the
department
of
city
planning.
We
obviously
have
a
tremendous
folks,
intelligent,
passionate
well-positioned
folks
in
that
department,
but
they
mentioned
the
housing
authority.
They
mentioned
the
ura.
A
There's
something
here
in
this
in
this
time
for
you,
and
I
think
that
that
could
be
a
very
hopeful
message
to
folks
in
the
midst
of
all
this
uncertainty.
So
I
want
to
thank
each
of
you
for
taking
the
time
to
have
this
conversation.
I
think
the
first
time
we've
done
so
quickly,
another
deeper
dive
with
with
the
team.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
for
your
patience
and
for
your
energy
and
making
this
happen.
Please
take
for
those
that
are
watching.