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A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
coming
bringing
this
equal
opportunity
review
commission
meeting
september
17
2020.
To
order
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
august
minutes.
A
C
Good
afternoon
everybody
thank
you
for
having
us
the
plan
I'm
bringing
before
you
is
for
employment,
verification
services
for
the
housing
authority,
so
we
have
to
do
employment
verifications
for
any
prospective
residents
and
current
residents
when
we
do
their
recertification
determine
their
their
rents
and
applicants.
C
So
this
is
a
five-year
contract
with
the
estimated
spend
of
about
eight
hundred
and
sixty
three
thousand
dollars.
Actually,
I
apologize
for
not
giving
you
that
information
earlier.
I
found
out
this
morning
that
it's
actually
900
000,
just
because
that
they
may
go
over
the
allotted
searches
that
we
have
and
there's
like
an
extra
charge.
C
If
we
go
over,
so
we
as
the
authority
have
approximately
5500
low-income
units
that
we
operate
and
another
7
000
or
so
hcv
units,
and
typically
throughout
the
year,
we
do
about
13,
000
employment
verifications
and
that's
what
this
is.
There's
a
charge
per
per
search.
It's
really
just
it's
for
caresoft
or
equifax.
C
It's
basically
the
work
number.
We
use
it
just
13
000
times
a
year
and
they
did
include
their
plan
for
their
overall
small
business
plan
that
I
included
in
your
proposal.
That
does
have
four
and
a
half
percent
of
their
annual
three
and
a
half
billion
dollar
sales
that
goes
to
small
disadvantaged
businesses
and
about
seven
percent
that
goes
to
wbe.
C
So
we
included
that
in
just
to
show
you
that
they
do
have
a
formal
plan
within
their
organization
to
do
this,
and
the
fact
that
this
is
such
a
minuscule
amount
of
their
yearly
sales
that
to
be
able
to
pull
out
specific
vendors
is
just
just
not
feasible.
So
we
don't
really
have
specific
vendors
that'll
work
on
our
contract
because.
D
C
H
D
F
So
I
have
a
question
so
can
you
talk
about?
We
see
your
outreach
that
you
had
done,
but
can
you
talk
about
like
the
lack
of
follow-up
in
some
of
those
boxes
that
are
not
checked
specifically,
that
follow-up
part.
F
No
with
the
the
mwbe
that
were
that
you
outreach
to
because
you
only
have
4.5
percent
of
mbes.
So
the
question
is
your
outreach
as
far
as
being
able
to
obtain
other
certified
minority
business
businesses.
C
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
ask
sean
or
katie
to
speak
about
how
their
program
finds
their
mbes,
although
that
that
four
and
a
half
percent
was
their
nationwide
goal
of
their
three
and
a
half
billion
in
sales
annually.
So
I'll
talk,
let
them
I'll
ask
them
to
kind
of.
If
I
see
that
they're
muted,
it
looks
like
katie's
having
some
trouble
connecting,
but
hopefully
they
can
talk
about
equifax's
plan
to
include
mbes.
J
Can
you
guys
hear
me
now
yep?
Yes,
perfect,
sorry,
just
one
of
the
the
multitude
of
of
telecommunications
programs
that
I
have
to
familiarize
myself
with
so
I'm
my
name
is
sean
hebert,
I'm
with
carosoft,
I'm
also
joined
by
george
nichols
from
our
contracts
team.
It
sounds
as
though
katie's
having
some
trouble
getting
on,
but
yeah
the
the
carousel
process
for
vetting,
finding
and
and
working
to
support
any
of
our
minority
or
set-aside
partners
is
laid
out
fairly
straightforwardly
in
the
in
the
documentation.
J
We
provided
basically
leveraging
this
systems
like
sam.gov
working
with
kind
of
individual
state
and
local
agencies
to
understand
hey,
who
are
your
preferred,
mwes
or
mbes,
building
that
kind
of
bullpen
of
partners
who
are
strategic
or
be
able
to
support
some
of
these
ongoing
requirements
that
that
may
have
here.
J
You
know
realistically
we're
we're
a
business
of
we
did
close
to
seven
billion
dollars
last
year
in
total
revenue
we
work
with
an
extensive
grouping
of
reseller
partners
in
all
all
sorts
of
set-asides
and
and
work
to
reply
and
respond
appropriately
for
any
of
these
bids,
as
they're
as
they're
laid
out.
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
looking
for
additional
detail
on
that
or
not.
C
On
page
pages,
I
believe,
11
and
12
of
the
plan
that
I
submitted
does
have
their
methodology
outlined
it
has
it
after
it
talks
about
their
goals.
It
talks
about
the
categories
that
they
looked
and
selected
vendors
and
it
does
talk
about
their
method
to
develop
the
goals
and
where
they
did
find
them.
So,
if
you
wanted
to
see
it,
it
is
included
in
that.
F
Now
I
was
just
really
looking
at
the
good
faith
checklist
because
it's
I
wouldn't
even
say,
have
checked
and
I'm
not
sure
what
and
what
was
the
issues
of
not
being
able
to
follow
up
provide
feedback.
I
mean,
maybe
you
didn't
get
to
that
point
with
some
of
your
mbes.
C
Well,
as
far
as
the
authority
is
concerned,
it's
kind
of
a
little
bit
beyond
our
scope
to
try
to
follow
up
people
who
don't
express
interest.
You
know
I
right
communicated
with
them.
I
just
I
don't
have
enough
hours
in
the
day
to
chase
people
to
to,
like
you
know,
do
business
with
me.
You
know
so
I
kind
of
if
they
don't
submit
a
plan.
There's
nothing
I
can
do
we
did
have.
We
did
have
a
minority
company
submit
a
proposal
they
were
when
they
were
scored.
C
They
did
not
score
as
high
as
karasoff
did,
and
this
you
know,
as
the
federal
regulation
state
we
have
to,
we
award
the
highest,
responsive
and
responsive
bidder.
I
think
the
major
point
that
they
lost
a
lot
of
points
for
is
you
know
we
do
13
like
I
said
we
do.
C
For
you
know
an
employment
background
check
or
an
employment
verification,
and
most
of
what
we
get
through
kerosoft
is
pretty
instant.
F
Yeah
you're
answering
it,
but
for
me
it's
just
not
satisfactory,
because
I'm
not
sure
the
outreach
and
perhaps
you
all
I
mean
I
seen
what
you
did
and
you
know,
but
it's
just
not
I'm
just
wondering
and
you're,
obviously
you're
not
going
to
chase
those
that
are
not
interested.
So
I'm
really
talking
about
those
that
submitted
proposals,
those
that
you
were
at
least
looking
at
their
scores.
F
C
Yeah,
so
that
comes
after
that
that
would
come
after
they
would
get
a
letter
explaining
to
them
that
they
did
not
score
as
high
and
if
they
choose
they
can
request,
because
these
are
all
steps
that
I
have
we
have
to
follow.
That
is
in.
They
can
request.
What's
called
a
debriefing
with
the
contracting
officer,
and
at
that
point
they
will.
He
goes
over
their
scores
and
explains
to
them
where
they
lost
points.
C
So
that
is
part
of
our
process.
But
it
does
come
after
after
this
because
they
can't.
A
Brandon,
you
should
check
that
on
the
checklist.
Then
you
understand
what
I
mean
like
this
is
this
is
red
flagging,
just
because
they're
not
checked
and
if
that's
something
that's
part
of
the
process-
and
you
know
that
that's
customary
and
always
going
to
be
part
of
the
process,
then
just
check
that
box.
So
it's
not
raising
a
red
flag
at
this
meeting.
E
A
There's
things
in
here
that
I
that
you've,
just
that
you're,
that
your
prime
and
you
said
that
you
did
and
you
didn't
check
off
on
this
checklist.
C
B
C
A
A
A
So,
if
that's
not,
if
that's
not
clearly
the
case
or
if
there's
an
exception
to
it
or
if
there's,
if
this
checklist
doesn't
really
conform
to
your
process
in
the
timeline,
then
redline
it
like
you,
would
any
other
contract
and
put
it
in
initial
and
put
an
explanation
and
then
at
least
we
would
have
a
jumping
off
point
of
where
we
were
going
instead
of
having
a
10-minute
conversation
every
month
about
stuff,
that's
not
checked
off.
Okay,
okay!
Does
that
make
sense
sure
what
about
commissioners
or
just
does
that
work
for
you.
F
That's
fine
for
me
because
commissioner
conley,
as
you
mentioned,
just
looked
like
there
was
a
terrible
faith
effort
done
right.
Look
at
this
checklist.
A
And
we
could
even
go
and
a
further.
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
feel
it's
necessary,
but
maybe
it'll
satisfy
some
of
the
other
commissioners
is
anything
that
was
redlined
and
then
further
down
the
line
was
able
to
be
checked
off.
Maybe
you
throw
it
in
and
we
could
we
could
review
it
after.
We
approve
the
minutes
in
the
beginning
of
the
of
the
thing,
but
I
I
don't
I
mean
I.
A
I
trust
you
guys
I
I
know
you
really
really
or
do
a
great
job
with
this
but
like,
like
commissioner
hall,
said
it
just
when
you
don't
have
it
checked,
it
just
looks
like
you
didn't
bother
to
do
it,
so
I
would.
I
would
prefer
that
you
redlined
it
and
gave
just
a
quick
explanation
and
then
we
could
be
able
to
move
forward
with
getting
emotion.
C
A
B
A
E
A
K
E
A
D
A
G
G
This
is
hill
international.
So
this
time
we
are
keeping
a
tab
on
the
commitments
made
with
the
sub,
and
so
in
that
original
submission
it
didn't
indicate
whether
there
was
a
commitment
made.
We
followed
up
and
we
just
and
we
found
out
that
they
have.
It
was
a
typo,
so
we
are
all
right
there.
G
Similarly,
with
another
prime
harshman
group,
they
have
two
subs
listed
here,
but
again
they
reached
out
to
their
two
subs
again
and
they
have
confirmation
from
one
and
they're
awaiting
a
similar
confirmation
from
the
other
sub.
So
we
should
be
good
there,
but
there's
a
one
last
one,
which
is
michael
baker.
G
They
have
eight
subs
out
of
those
eight
subs.
We
don't
have
confirmation
from
two.
So
that
was
something
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
before
the
the
commission,
whether
it's,
whether
that's
all
right
or
that's,
up
to
you
to.
G
A
L
K
G
So
I
have
reached
out
to
them.
I
actually
even
left
a
message
I
can.
I
can
follow
up
again
and
about
those
two
subs
I
mean
the
rest
of
them.
They
have
their
the
they
have
eight
subs
which
are
like
distributed
between
mbs
and
wbs,
but
those
two
we
can
follow
up.
G
So
I
had
emailed
the
concerned
person
and
he
responded
back.
He
wasn't
sure
about
what
we
were
we
wanted.
Then
we
I
had
called
him
on
his
phone
and
I
left
a
message,
but
I
haven't
gotten
a
response
yet
so
I'm
still
awaiting
a
response.
Okay.
Well,
what
about.
A
Yeah
they're
on
the
call
right,
yep
we're
here:
okay,
jen,
do
you
have
any
explanation?
Did
you
have
you
reached
out
to
michael
baker.
M
We
have
not
we
had
opozna
was,
you
know,
was
talking
with
them
directly,
but
I'm
honestly,
I'm
okay
with
holding
them
until
next
month.
If
that
one,
if
you
want
to
wait
to
get
the
confirmation
from
the
other
two,
but
they
do
have
six
so
that
actually
is
quite
a
lot
of
okay
as
well,
so
that's
more
than
any
of
the
other
ones
submitted.
So
even
if
we
don't
hear
back
from
the
other
two,
we
got
six
solid
ones.
Yeah.
A
Michael
baker,
normally
in
my
experience,
is
pretty
pretty
good
with
with
their
subs
and
having
participation.
Yes,.
A
M
You
also
have
cali
baker
on
the
line
from
dpw.
If
you
have
any
questions
specific
to
what
type
of
work
this
is
or
anything
like
that,
or
any
experience
with
any
of
these
vendors
she's
can
address
that
as
well.
A
I
don't
I
have
questions
about
something
that
came
up
last
month,
so
sure,
if
you
guys
are
prepared
for
us
to
move
forward
with
what
was
discussed
last
month.
Okay,
the
can.
H
We
can
we
commission
chair.
Can
we
approve
these
first,
these
these
constructions,
it
cues
before
we
move
on.
D
A
Hi,
okay,
thanks
guys,
so
this
came
up
last
month
in
the
meeting.
Some
of
the
professional
services
subs
that
were
approved
by
the
commission
were
were
not
being
used
in
the
actual
work
and
we
wanted
to
know
what
what
the
city's
process
is
for.
A
You
know
discovering
why
they
weren't
used
or
why
they
weren't,
if,
if
they
backed
out,
if
that
sub
that
was
approved,
backed
out,
there
should
have
been
a
backfill
of
minority
or
women
owned
subs.
That
could
do
the
same
work
and
why
were
they
not
used.
M
Right
and
it
brought
this
to
our
attention
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
so
that
we
could
kind
of
look
into
it
ahead
of
time,
so
we
did
speak
with
domi
and
dpw
and
on
the
one
instance
for
dpw,
I'm
gonna.
Let
cali
speak
to
that.
That
was
a
very
specific
instance
in
a
very
unique
project.
So
cali,
can
you
explain
that
particular
one
that
we
discussed
like
last
think
it
was
last
week.
B
B
B
So
we
are
obviously
trying
to
push
for
disadvantaged
business
to
make
sure
that
the
subs
are
that
they
originally
wrote
down
are
used,
but
there
are
some
instances
where
a
project-
just
the
firm
does
not
have
that
capability
and
we
have
to
go
elsewhere.
H
Okay,
I
I
I
have
a
question
kali
when
you
go
elsewhere,
do
you
make
sure
these
firms
are
certified.
M
But
what
we
have
done
process
wise
to
make
this
better
for
you
and
clearer
for
you
in
the
future.
There
dbw
and
domi
have
added
steps
into
their
process
that,
when
we're
submitting
the
eorc
paperwork
for
each
project,
they
now
have
the
full
list
that
upon
build
up
of
who
the
primes
are,
which
subs
the
primes
had
pre-approved
for
eorc,
so
that
the
department
can
now
go.
Look
at
that
list
and
notice
up
front.
M
If
there
is
a
difference
and
then
they
can,
when
they
submit
the
plan,
they
can
either
push
back
on
the
vendor
to
have
them
use
one
of
those
or
they
can
explain
when
they
submit
the
eorc
plan
for
the
particular
project
to
chuck
in
context
for
you
ahead
of
time
why
that
change
was
made
and
why
there
was
not
an
available
mwdb
if
that
was
the
case
and
again
or
if
they
weren't
on
the
original
list,
if
they
are
certified,
make
sure
that
we
add
them
and
make
sure
that
chuck
gets
the
certification,
information
and
new
pos
enough
for
for
follow-up.
B
M
H
A
Yeah
and-
and
it's
the
one
thing
that
we
were
concerned
about
as
a
commission,
that
would
happen,
and
then
you
know
as
innocently
as
that,
as
it
happened.
The
way
it
looked
did
not
look
innocent,
so
there
has
to
be
so
much
transparency
for
us
all
to
be
on
board
with
this.
You
know.
A
We
really
need
to
know
that
all
of
your
primes
take
this
extremely
seriously
and
know
that
we
that
you
know
we're
we're
not
going
to
let
these
kind
of
things
slide
that
have,
you
know,
been
able
to
slide
in
the
past.
We
really
really.
They
really
need
to
give
us
an
explanation
and
a
very
clear
explanation:
that's
acceptable
to
us,
the
commissioners
for
why
why
it
was
subbed
out
and
was
not
subbed
out
to
a
minority
or
women-owned
businesses
that
was
already
that
were
already
approved.
M
Yeah,
I
absolutely
agree.
Okay,
you
know
this
is
this
new
contracting
process
is
a
learning
curve
for
all
of
us,
so
we
kind
of
expected
some
of
these
weird
things
to
come
up
that
we
didn't
think
about
so,
and
I
appreciate
chuck,
you
know
in
a
positive,
you
know
coming
to
us
right
away
and
say
hey:
how
do
we
fix
this
and
right?
You
know,
and
it
I
think
you
know
we
have
a
a
nice
addition
to
our
process.
M
That's
gonna
help
us
catch
this
stuff
ahead
of
time
and
at
least
if
it
is
appropriate,
then,
when
we
submit
the
plans,
you
guys
at
least
get
an
explanation
and
some
context
around
that,
so
that
it's
also
then
it's
documented
on
all
the
paperwork
and
all
of
that
as
well.
For
you
know
any
right
to
know,
requests
or
whatever
there
may
be
right.
A
It's
it's
it's
best
for
all
parties,
I
believe
all
right.
Well,
that
was
one
thing.
I'm
glad
you
cleared
that
up.
I'm
really
glad
we
had
this
discussion.
It
ruffled
a
couple
feathers,
including
my
own
last
month,
when
we
saw
that
we
were
a
little
frustrated
yeah,
but
I
I
I
feel
good
go
ahead.
I
M
So
we're
having
them
submit
a
plan
for
each
project,
we're
having
them
submit,
not
a
full
plan,
but
that
little
the
one
or
two
page
of
what
the
company
is,
what
they're
going
to
be
doing,
what
the
percent
is
dollar
value,
so
we're
having
them
complete
that
with
every
single
project
that
they
do
now,
even
if
it's
under
fifty
thousand
dollars
we're
having
them
complete
it
anyway
and
letting
chuck
have
that
information,
because
if
they
are
using
them
even
on
the
smaller
projects,
we
want
to
recognize
that,
and
you
know,
give
them
credit
for
us,
and
you
know
add
that
to
our
numbers,
so,
no
matter
the
size
of
the
project
we
are
now
having
them
submit
a
you
know:
a
mini
packet
for
every
single
project.
A
A
H
Okay,
guys
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
compliance
review
to
177a.
Did
you
guys
get
a
chance
to
look
over
that
a
little
bit.
H
Okay,
what
this
is
is
the
177a.
This
is
the
first
of
all
guys.
I
want
to
introduce
you
to
josh
lamont
he's
going
to
be
working
with
us
he's
on
the
call
now
josh
is
an
attorney.
That's
going
to
be
working
in
our
office
to
to
help
us
forward
some
of
these
some
of
these
ordinances
in
the
177a.
H
So
if
you
look,
if
you
look
right
away,
for
example,
the
one
discrepancy
right
away
is
the
percentages
in
here
that
has
to
be
changed,
and
here
it
has
25
and
10..
H
There's
some
other
things
that
I
would
like
to
see
changing
here,
and
I
just
wanted
you
guys
to
take
a
look
at
it
read
through
it
to
see.
If
there's
anything,
you
think
might
want
to
be
changed
in
here.
H
H
I
was
hoping
that
you
guys
would
kind
of
concentrate
on
the
compliance
into
this
ordinance,
because
that's
where
I
want
to
start
really
doing
some
new
things
as
far
as
primes
who
do
not
comply
need
to
get
a
something,
a
letter,
a
find
something
because,
as
I'm
going
through
doing
my
audits,
there's
a
lot
of
not
a
lot
there's
a
few
companies
that
the
the
the
job
is
done,
but
they
didn't
reach
their
goals.
H
There's
some
companies
that
are
in
process
right
now
that
don't
look
like
they're
going
to
meet
their
goals
that
we
need
to.
Let
them
know
that
if
they
don't
meet
their
goals,
this
will
happen.
I
just
we
have
never
used
the
compliance
part
of
this
177a.
K
H
Well,
I
I
recommend
three
phases:
commission
review,
for
I
think
the
first
one
should
be
a
letter,
the
second
one,
the
second
offense
should
be
a
fine
of
some
sort,
even
if
the
fine
is
to
pay
those
those
subs
what
they
were
supposed
to
get
paid.
The
third
one
would
be.
H
I
think
these
these
primes
who
do
not
comply
should
go
on
the
list
and
I'll
take
the
list
to
the
government
committee.
So
everybody
knows
that
doesn't
work
as
far
as
the
ura,
the
housing
authority
city
of
pittsburgh,
al
kasan,
everybody
on
the
board
will
know
this
problem
has
not
been
in
compliance
with
the
mwb
requirements.
A
E
A
That
the
commissioners,
this
I
mean
that
the
eorc
office
could
could
enforce
that
themselves.
We
you
don't
need
us
for
that.
H
H
Yes,
exactly,
I
think
it
coming
from
you
guys,
penalties
or
or
some
type
of
sanctions
or
whatever
is
different
from
coming
from
our
office
commissions
here,
even
if,
if
it
comes
from
our
office
with
your
backing,
I
would
like
that,
even
even
if
you
I
can
go
out
and
write
a
letter
and
say
hey
the
city
of
pittsburgh
office
diversity
see
that
you're
not
compliant
blah
blah
blah
and
our
commissioners
also
something
back
us
up.
I
don't
want
our
offices
to
be
out
there
without
you.
L
Guys
this
might
be
totally
irrelevant,
but
I'm
just
wondering.
Maybe
if
it's
would
it
be
like
a
sense
of
accountability
as
well
like
like?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
these
things
are
happening
like
that
they're?
Getting
the
fines
they're,
paying
the
fines
and
that
they're
getting
their
letters?
Is
that
something
that
the
commissioners
do?
Is
that
the
staff.
H
H
H
H
No,
no,
no,
no,
I'm
not
trying
to
get
them
to
implement
science.
I
just
want
the
city
council
to
know
that
I'm
not
unilaterally
finding
people
or
unilaterally
just
saying
these
pers,
these
people
aren't
in
compliance
right
to
me.
It
seems
like.
I
K
H
Because,
in
my
opinion,
the
the
commission-
this
is
just
me
talking-
the
commission
should
have
the
the
the
first
of
all
you
have
the
prior
to
approve
or
disapprove,
but
you
should
have
the
also
the
power
or,
like
commissioner
cushman,
to
sign
off
on
a
letter
to
say
they're,
not
in
compliance
and
that's
that's
what
I
would
like.
Hopefully,.
H
D
A
Scroll,
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
weeds
with
this.
I
just
I
have
no
problem
with
presenting
a
letter
and
having
us
approve
it
for
you
to
send
it,
and
we
with
our
backing.
That's
fine,
it's
just
legally.
You
have
to
really
kind
of
we
ca.
I
I
don't
think
that
we
have
the
power
to
find
people
like.
I
don't
even
think
your
office
has
the
power
to
find
people.
H
Well,
well:
go
down
go
down
to
the
go
down
to
the
the
fine
section
of
this
go
down
to
the
compliance
section.
If
you
will
please
we're
pausing,
if
you
go
all
the
way
down
where
it
says
compliance
where
the
compliance
part
is,
and
we
do
it
and
in
this
ordinance
you
do
have
the
ability
to
do
some.
L
A
Okay,
so
it
says
if
this,
if,
if
it
hasn't
been
corrected
or
addressed
within
seven
days,
we
can,
we
can
recommend
actions
to
be
taken
by
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
We
can
make.
A
H
A
H
H
A
A
H
A
So
I
mean
I
feel
like
letters
addressing
it
that
they're
in
violation.
A
You
know:
that's,
that's
fine,
if
you,
if
you
have
the
information-
and
you
know
that
these-
that
we
approved
contracts
with
participation
and
you
have
that
knowledge
that
they
have
not
used
those
those
subs
right,
yeah
bring
it
to
our
attention.
H
Well,
what
that's
what
I
want
to
say:
we,
you
guys,
might
not
have
it,
but
if
you,
if
we,
if
you
want
it
in
here,
then
I
can
go
to
counsel
with
it.
They
say
that
we
want
to
strengthen
our
our
process.
We
want
to
strengthen
our
compliance
process,
okay,
because,
whatever
we
do
in
this
ordinance,
I
still
got
to
go
to
council,
no
matter
what
the
change
even
to
change
the
percentages.
On
this
thing
I
got
to
go
to
council.
H
H
A
D
H
A
E
H
H
Right
right
and
see
what
happens
is
to
commissions
here
once
we
get
this
in
the
ordinance,
we
can
put
it
in
the
contract
language.
M
F
H
Thank
you
guys,
that's
all!
That's
all
we
got
the
next
meeting
is
october.
15Th
thursday.
Is
there
anything
you
guys
have
for
us.