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A
All
right,
hello,
lovely
people,
welcome
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
gender
equity,
commission
may
2022
meeting.
I
am
working
morgan
overton,
acting
chair
of
the
gender
equity
commission
happy
election
day.
If
you
haven't
already
go
out
there
and
vote,
I
have
my
little
sticker
proudly,
so
does
jessie!
A
You
have
until
8
pm
to
vote
today.
Y'all
so
go
make
it
loud,
make
it
proud
and
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started.
B
A
The
roll
call
and
I'll
just
start
in
the
order
of
who's
on
my
screen.
Commissioner
hale
present
commissioner
raymie
present
commissioner
newman
present.
Commissioner
manuel
president,
commissioner,
coffee
present
commissioner
overton.
That's
me
so
we're
a
little
itty
bitty
group
of
people
today,
but
we're
dynamic,
we're
tiny
but
mighty.
So
thank
you
marcel
for
sending
me
the
minutes
for
april.
A
A
Is
there
anything
that
the
good
of
the
order
should
know
about
with
any
new
developments
workforce
equity
committee?
I
know
we
do
have
an
exciting
development.
So
janet.
Do
you
mind
sharing.
C
Yeah,
I'm
very
excited
to
announce
that
we
are
going
to
have
our
next
training.
It
will
be
monday
may
23rd.
We
are
trying
something
very
new
and
we
hope
that
it
works.
We
want
people
to
spend
their
lunch
with
us,
lunch
and
learn,
and
that
is
having
the
work
smart
workshop
as
we're
partnered
with
aauw.
C
This
again
is
to
help
educate
women
on
how
to
understand
and
know
their
value
know
their
worth
know
what
to
ask
for
in
regards
to
compensation,
whether
you're
seeking
a
new
position
or
seeking
a
promotion
or
a
new
position
within
your
current
organization.
C
The
pay
gap
for
women
continues
to
be
exasperated,
and
so
we
need
to
maintain
our
focus.
We
are
going
to
continue
to
maintain
our
focus
and
you
will
be
able
to
go
on
the
website
of
the
gec
and
click
on
the
link
and
be
able
to
sign
up
for
the
upcoming
lunch
and
learn
it
will
be
monday.
C
May
23rd
12
noon
just
spend
one
hour,
enhance
your
ksa's
knowledge,
skills
and
abilities
and
help
the
gender
equity
commission
and
aauw
by
participating
in
the
work
smart
workshop
to
increase
your
knowledge
about
how
to
ask
for
more
money
which
will
help
eventually
close
this
gender
pay
gap.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
looking
forward
to
and
for
all
of
those
that
have
wondered.
Will
we
ever
do
in-person
work
smart
workshop,
and
the
answer
is
yes,
they
are
forthcoming.
C
A
So
I
should
have
mentioned
that
you
can
contact
us
at
genderequity
at
pittsburgh,
pa.gov,
but
the
more
the
merrier
and
this
whole
movement.
It
isn't
just
about
the
pay
gap,
but
it's
about
you
know.
A
D
No
big
updates
the
biggest
really
we're,
probably
going
to
shift
our
meeting
dates
to
accommodate
more
of
our
committee,
but
yes,
we're
kind.
We
are
still
looking
for
nominations
from
the
floor
for
a
chair
for
the
commission
and
so
that
vacancy
needs
to
be
filled
as
soon
as
possible.
Although
we
think
you're
doing
a
great
job
acting
chair
overton,
we
want
to
be
in
compliance
with
our
bylaws,
so
that
is
the
outgoing
piece
of
our
work
right
now.
E
You
know
talisa
and
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
meet
last
week
so
to
lisa.
I'm
sorry
that
we
didn't
get
a
chance
to
connect
on
a
governance
issue,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
anybody
has
been
successfully
using
the
google
group
to
email
the
commission,
because
I've
sent
a
couple
of
emails
to
the
commission
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
working,
I
sent
one
last
week
with
some
announcements
and
I
actually
sent
one
yesterday.
E
So
if
nobody
got
those,
I
think
we
have
a
governance
issue,
which
is
you
know
our
communications
issue.
I
don't
know
if
the
executive
committee
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
that.
I
logged
in
to
the
google
group
this
morning
just
to
double
check
and
I
didn't
see
my
messages,
so
I
guess
I'm
not
surprised.
I
saw
a
number
of
you
shaking
your
head
so
that
you
didn't
get
those
but
they're
in
my
outboxes
sent.
So
I
think
we've
got
perhaps
a
problem
with
our
communications
and
morgan.
E
A
E
Got
no
error
message
and
it
is
a
communications
issue.
We
moved
to
the
google
group
because
when
we
were
using
people's
specific
emails
we
were
missing
people,
people
would
mistype
somebody
would
get
left
off.
There
were
a
lot
of
hurt
feelings
when
the
chains-
you
know
people
would
reply
all,
but
somebody
would
be
missing.
So
we
as
a
group
made
a
decision
to
use
that
google
group
always
as
our
communications
platform.
E
So
if
we
don't
want
to
use
it
because
there
are
a
lot
of
old
names
on
there,
perhaps
we
could
take
a
look
at
ways
to
exit
folks
from
that
list
who
are
no
longer
active,
but
there
were
really
good
reasons
for
using
it.
So
I
don't
want
to
forget
that
we
as
a
group,
made
a
choice
to
do
that.
But
if
it's
not
working
you
know,
maybe
we
just
need
to
figure
that
out
so
yeah.
A
A
E
The
message
I
sent
last
week
that
apparently
nobody
got
was
an
announcement
from
the
u.s
women's
bureau
and
they
had
some
really
great
programming
that
looked
like
it
was
connected
to
our
workforce
equity.
So
I
will
try
to
resend
that
or
get
it
out
to
everybody
I'll.
I
can
use
the
names
morgan
that
you
used,
but
again
I
want
to
be
cautious
of
not
missing
somebody,
but
there
was
some
wonderful
programming,
so
that
was
last
week's
announcement.
E
Perhaps
more
relevant
and
top
of
mind
to
me
for
today
was
the
message
I
said
yesterday,
which
was
asking
if
we
might
want
to
consider
as
a
group
putting
out
a
statement
about
roe
v
wade
and
thinking
about,
particularly,
I
was
looking
at
the
cedaw
language
around
reproductive
justice,
and
you
know
the
call
for
abortion
is
absolutely
central
to
human
rights
and
the
way
that
cedaw
imagines
international
human
rights.
So
I
think,
there's
some
really
great
established
language.
E
I
was
trying
to
share
out
a
document,
in
fact,
that
pulls
together
the
cedaw
language
with
disability
rights,
language,
which
I
thought
was
a
really
strong
statement,
and
I
know
at
the
march
on
saturday
folks
were
really
talking
about
the
way
in
which
pittsburgh
is
quite
likely
to
become
very
central
for
folks
from
the
surrounding
states
who
may
be
coming
here
to
receive
health
care.
E
So
I
don't
know
if
that
brings
up
any
kinds
of
policy
positions
or
things
we
might
want
to
talk
about
from
a
legislative
or
just
some
sort
of
supportive.
You
know
what
could
we
be?
What
kinds
of
conversations
should
we
be
having
in
pittsburgh
to
talk
about
how
we
support
folks
accessing
health
care
here,
but,
at
the
very
least,
I'd
love
to
see
us
consider
putting
out
some
kind
of
statement.
I
I
felt
like
our
voice
was
kind
of
missing
from
from
that
march
on
saturday
and
I'd
love
to
see
us
in
there.
E
Yeah
in
the
past,
when
we've
put
statements
out
like
this,
we've
released
them
on
the
website
and
in
our
newsletter
and
then
we've
individually
privately
used
our
own
social
media
to
push
those
messages,
I
know
we're
not
ready
for
a
social
media
conversation
that's
in
the
future,
but
yeah
yeah.
So
I
would.
I
just
think
that,
even
even
though
we're
sort
of
on
pause
and
trying
to
keep
ourselves
going
this,
this
just
feels
so
big
to
me.
A
Absolutely
I
mean
that
goes
without
saying
so
too
bad
too
bad.
We
didn't
get
the
the
email,
because
we
could
have
thought
about
the
statement
in
a
working
session
today,
but
I
mean
obviously
I'm
all
here
for
statements
and
making
sure
our
voice
is
heard
with
that.
But
you
know
I
want
us
to.
I
don't
want
it
to
just
be
like
a
statement
for
statement
sake
but
like
what
are
we
actively
doing
in
response
to
that?
So
it's
like
what
you
said.
What
conversations
are
we
having?
Who
are
we
partnering
with?
A
Because
you
know
we're
not
inventing
this
conversation,
we're
trying
to
raise
up
the
efforts
that
are
being
done
on
the
ground,
and
I
had
even
considered
bringing
somebody
in
this
month
to
to
talk
about
roe
v
wade,
but
we
had
already
scheduled
mary
so
that
conversation
can
still
be
had,
but
thank
you
jesse.
I
think
you
know
this
is
this
is
what
we're
here
to
do
right
and
there
goes
sloane.
E
E
I
don't
know
who
else
has
had
their
their
meeting,
but
I
I
learned
that
and
I'm
sorry
we're
not
in
work
session,
but
I
I
don't
want
to
wait
a
month
to
discuss
the
fact
that
the
there
appears
to
be
some
question
as
to
whether
or
not
we
actually
have
a
line
item
in
the
budget
for
a
staff
member.
E
C
But
I'm
not
surprised
if
the
mayor
would
not
know
I
mean,
because
he
has
responsibility
for
so
much
and
to
know
that
finite
detail.
I
wouldn't
expect
him.
What
I
do
know
is
that
it
was
in
when
it
was
presented
at
the
table
for
approval
at
city
council
last
december.
C
So
I
would
just
have
to
follow
up.
E
C
A
F
A
Over
okay,
well,
thank
you.
Jesse
you've,
given
us
some
homework,
but
we
gotta
keep
busy.
We
have
to
keep
busy
and
then
speaking
about
mayor's
office
updates.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
seen,
but
for
folks
who
are
watching
and
haven't
known
this,
the
transition
report
has
been
released.
A
I
mean
I'm
just
in
awe
of
the
fact
that
so
many
advocates
and
activists
across
the
city
who
represent
so
many
groups
and
lived
experiences
have,
for
the
past
couple
of
months,
put
together
a
whole
series
of
policy
recommendations
and,
as
mentioned
as
the
commission
knows,
I
did
send
over
our
policy
recommendations
to
the
team
so
based
off,
of
what
I've
seen
so
far.
There's
just
so
much
overlap
that
I
mean
there's
just
such
a
window
of
opportunity
here
to
see
some
of
our
suggestions
hopefully
come
through
in
this
administration.
A
So
if
you
haven't
seen
it,
you
can
go
to
gainingtransition.com
and
at
the
top
you'll
see
transition
recommendations.
It's
a
pretty
hefty
document.
So
it's
a
good
morning
read
or
if
you're,
on
the
tea
you're
on
the
bus
reading
in
the
morning.
A
It's
a
good
way
to
see
whatever
our
our
city's
advocates
have
come
up
with
and
then,
as
we
are
still
awaiting
our
guest.
I
did
want
to
open
the
floor
for
any
announcements
across
the
board.
Sloan,
you
have
been
really
busy.
A
F
Oh
yes,
and
he
is
such
an
extroverted
orator
like
when
I
tell
you
I
was
seated
at
table
one
for
dinner,
and
the
man
spoke
for
four
hours
on
a
glass
of
water
and
half
a
can
of
diet.
Coke
I
was
like,
should
we
be
eating
like
I'm
so
like?
Should
we
be
eating?
He
geopolitical,
like
weaving
in
stories
and
tales?
F
It
was
like
really
interesting.
Yeah
I
was
down
in
little
rock.
What's
been
going
on,
hello
neighbor,
just
you
know,
is
continuing
to
scale
across
the
region.
So
we've
now
welcomed
206
afghans.
Hello,
neighbor,
has
across
the
four
resettlement
agencies,
which
is
also
jfcs
ajapo
and
bethany.
There's
seven
over
700
that
have
come
in.
F
There
was
just
an
announcement
with
secretary
senator
williams,
the
other
day
and
acting
secretary
of
state
meg
sneed
for
dhs
and
a
few
other
folks
on
a
bill
that
they're
introducing
specific
to
ukrainian
support
that
they
worked
with
the
four
resettlement
agencies
on
and-
and
we
did
a
really
nice
briefing
over
at
jfcs
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half
the
other
day
with
a
number
of
their
staffers
as
well.
F
You
know
basic
support
services
like
we,
we
were
sort
of,
we
covered
all
the
bases,
youth
learning
loss,
everything
that
that
affects
all
marginalized
groups
across
the
city
affect
our
english
language
learners,
and
so
we
talked
about
all
of
those
things
and
in
terms
of
the
little
rock
work
and
some
of
that
that's
tied
to
the
national
program.
We
we
do
so.
F
The
hello
neighbor
network
is
where
we
connect
other
leaders
that
work
with
refugees
and
immigrants
on
how
they're
scaling
and
we
have
100
members
in
40
states
and
we're
actually
bringing
about
60
of
those
folks
to
pittsburgh.
For
our
annual
convening
that's
happening.
The
7th,
8th
and
9th.
We
just
put
out
the
request
for
the
mayor
and
some
other
folks
to
attend
and
to
give
some
some
comments
and
some
words,
but
we
have
32
states.
I
think
that'll
be
represented,
they're
going
to
come
in
and
we
like
to
show
off
pittsburgh
and
the
welcoming
work.
F
That's
happening
here,
some
of
the
and
then
we
have
a
number
of
speakers
and
and
things
that
are
happening.
And
then
we
end
with
site
visits,
so
we'll
actually
be
visiting
the
mayor's
office
and
county
council
on
the
morning
of
june
9th
and
then
we're
doing
a
couple
of
other
site
visits
that
morning.
So.
F
I
know
I
know
I'd
like
to
do
that.
Yes,
and
I
should
mention,
even
though
I
was
just
in
little
rock
a
few
months
before
that
I
was
down
at
smu
with
president
bush,
who
his
most
recent
book
is
about
immigrants
and
refugees.
He
included
hello,
neighbor
in
that,
and
and
and
so
it's
been
really
nice
to
see
the
bipartisan
support
of
former
presidents
for
the
work.
A
Thank
you,
you
are
doing
the
work
sloan.
We
appreciate
you
so
keep
appreciating
on
what's
happening
in
that
space
and
if
there's
anything
that
the
gec
can
assist
with
without
further
ado,
I
do
see
our
guest
hello,
mary.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
B
A
Listen
in
these
pandemic
times.
What
does
time
mean
anymore,
so
we're
here
now
it's
perfect
timing.
We
were
able
to
catch
up
and
do
what
we
had
to
do
on
our
end,
but
I
will
ask
judy
to
give
a
brief
introduction
of
you,
mary
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started
all.
G
G
That's
the
u.s
women's
rights
treaty
that
the
united
states
has
not
ratified,
and
that
is
something
that
there's
a
campaign
to
ratify
that
at
the
local
municipal
and
county
level
in
the
united
states
and
mary's
been
involved
in
that
she
is
a
professor
at
the
university
of
california,
irvine
school
of
law
and
the
director
of
the
global
gender
justice
project.
Her
areas
of
expertise
include
intersectional,
gender
justice,
business
and
human
rights,
especially
in
the
technology
sector.
Human
rights
is
applied
to
the
u.s,
including
at
state
and
local
local
levels
and
transitional
justice
and
mary.
G
G
B
No
pressure,
so
it
will
be
forever
memorialized
that
I
I
came
late,
but
the
farming
was
perfect.
B
So
thank
you
so
much
to
judy
and
the
other
members
of
pittsburgh's
gender
equity
commission
for
the
invitation
to
speak
with
you
all
today,
I'm
thrilled
to
talk
about
one
of
my
favorite
topics,
cdaw
and
learn
more
about
the
tremendous
work
that
your
cdaw
program
has
been
doing.
As
judy
mentioned,
my
name
is
mary
hansell.
B
I've
taught
several
courses
on
international
human
rights
and
led
two
law:
school
clinics,
conducting
human
rights
advocacy
across
the
globe.
I've
litigated
before
un
bodies,
including
the
c-dog
committee,
which
I'll
discuss
in
a
bit
regional
human
rights
courts
and,
of
course,
u.s
courts.
I'm
currently
a
member
of
the
advisory
committee
for
cities
presida.
B
I
proposed
and
worked
on
la
county
cdot
ordinance
and
I
consulted
on
san
diego's
seattle
ordinance,
which,
as
I'll
discuss
just
past
last
week,
so
today
I'm
going
to
cover
a
few
topics.
I
thought
I'd
start
out
by
providing
some
background
information
about
cdaw
and
local
seed,
all
implementation
for
those
who
may
not
be
as
familiar
apologies
in
advance
to
cdot
experts,
who
will
already
be
familiar
with
some
of
that.
B
Then
I'll
briefly
discuss
my
work
on
l.a
county's
sea
dog
ordinance
passed
in
late
2021
in
san
diego's,
dot,
ordinance
passed
just
last
week
and
I'll
conclude
with
a
few
thoughts.
I
have
on
how
to
strengthen
cdaw
measures,
so
I
don't
think
I'll
speak
for
more
than
20
or
30
minutes,
and
hopefully
we
can
have
a
discussion
and
answer
some
questions
after
I
present.
But
I
really
encourage
you
to
raise
any
questions
during
my
presentation
to
keep
the
session
interactive
since
everyone's
online.
B
I
guess
the
best
way
to
do
that
is
the
chat
or
there's
no
chat.
B
So
there
aren't
public
attendees,
okay
got
it,
so
please
just
interject
with
questions
anytime.
You
see
fit
great.
So
I'd
love
this
to
feel
more.
Like
a
conversation
than
me
presenting
in
fact,
I
was
originally
planning
to
bring
slides,
but
then
I
I
thought
that
might
detract
from
you
know
this
sort
of
interactive
nature,
so
I
thought
I'd
start
off
by
situating
cedaw
in
the
cities
for
sedaw
movement
within
the
broader
international
human
rights
landscape.
B
As
you
likely
know,
the
un
convention
to
eliminate
all
forms
of
discrimination
against
women,
known
as
cedaw
is
a
core
human
rights
treaty
in
the
principal
legal
instrument
for
ensuring
gender-based
rights
across
the
globe.
Cedaw
was
adopted
by
the
un
in
1979
and
went
into
effect
in
1981..
B
Cedaw
is
one
of
nine
core
human
rights
treaties
at
the
global
level.
Out
of
these
nine,
by
the
way
the
u.s
has
only
ratified
three
of
them.
B
These
are
the
international
covenant
on
civil
and
political
rights,
the
convention
against
torture
and
the
convention
against
the
the
convention
for
sorry,
the
convention
on
the
elimination
of
racial
discrimination,
so
many
different
prepositions
okay
cedaw
is
the
second
most
ratified
global
treaty.
The
most
ratified
treaty
is
the
convention
on
the
rights
of
the
child,
which
has
been
ratified
by
every
country
except
one,
and
you
may
or
may
not
be
surprised
to
learn
that
that
one
is
the
u.s.
B
So
it
was
the
us
and
somalia
until
somalia
did
the
right
thing
a
few
years
ago,
so
the
rights
enshrined
in
cedaw
promote
gender
justice
in
every
area
of
life,
civil,
political,
economic,
social
and
cultural.
These
rights,
of
course,
apply
through
an
intersectional
lens
which
recognizes
a
broad
range
of
intersecting
identities,
broader
in
fact,
than
the
protected
classes
recognized
under
u.s
law.
B
In
addition
to
setting
forth
substantive
rights,
cedaw
delineates
the
mandate
of
an
oversight
body
called
the
committee
on
the
elimination
of
discrimination
against
women,
the
c-dog
committee,
so
the
cdr
committee
issues,
authoritative
interpretations
of
the
treaty,
focused
recommendations
to
governments
following
periodic
reviews
and
quasi-judicial
decisions
on
complaints,
alleging
treaty
violations.
B
So
these
interpretive
statements,
targeted
recommendations
and
case
decisions,
give
detailed
meaning
to
the
text
of
the
treaty
and
they
make
sure
the
treaty's
provisions
remain
dynamic,
keeping
pace
with
evolving
gender
discourses.
So
when
you
read
the
text
of
cedaw
which
again
was
drafted
in
1979,
it
may
seem
anachronistic
right.
It
seems
out
of
date
and
frankly,
just
not
relevant
to
today's
discourses
regarding
gender.
B
But
you
know
just
like
the
u.s
constitution,
the
treaty
really
shouldn't
be
taken
at
face
value.
This
is
because
also
like
our
constitution,
the
treaty
has
made
a
living
instrument
relevant
to
contemporary
society,
through
the
ongoing
continuous
guidance
provided
by
the
cdaw
committee,
somewhat
similar
to
how
our
constitution
is
made
living
and
relevant
through
the
ongoing
guidance
provided
by
the
us
supreme
court.
Although
there's
more,
I
could
say
about
that
these
days,
but
I'll
resist
so
cedaw
has
been
ratified
by
every
country
in
the
world,
except
for
six.
B
These
six
are
iran,
sudan,
somalia,
palau
and
tonga
in
the
u.s,
so
quick
political
science
refresher
to
become
a
party
to
a
treaty.
The
us
government
needs
to
both
sign
and
ratify
the
instrument.
President
carter
actually
did
science-y
dog
a
mere
months.
You
know
after
it
was
finalized,
so
he
signed
it
in
1980,
but
decades
later
we
still
haven't
ratified
it.
B
B
So
there
have
been
three
ratification
attempts
in
the
senate,
but
it's
never
made
it
to
the
floor.
If
you
read
the
senate
debates
about
ratification,
which
are
fascinating
by
the
way,
you'll
see
a
strong
sense
of
american
exceptionalism.
This
idea
that
the
u.s
doesn't
need
this
treaty
because
we're
already
so
advanced
in
our
gender
equity,
and
we
certainly
don't
need
to
be
told
what
to
do
by
a
un
body.
B
B
Let
me
how
am
I
doing
on
time?
Do
I
want
to
give
this
footnote
just
a
quick
footnote
if
you're
interested
in
the
law
of
international
treaties,
so
cdr
is
signed
but
not
ratified,
but
there
is
actual
legal
significance
to
that.
So
the
vienna
convention
on
the
law
of
treaties
provides
that
when
a
country
signs
but
fails
to
ratify
a
treaty,
the
country
cannot
take
any
action
which
would
violate
the
object
and
purpose
of
the
treaty.
B
B
B
So
importantly,
even
if
the
u.s
does
ratify
cdaw,
we
will
still
likely
need
this
movement
to
promote
local
implementation,
and
this
is
because,
when
the
u.s
ratifies
human
rights
treaties,
it
attaches
what
are
called
rudds,
which
is
an
acronym
for
reservations,
understandings
and
declarations,
and
these
rudds
are
sort
of
caveats.
B
B
So
when
the
u.s
ratifies
the
human
rights
treaty,
it
adds
a
statement
that
says
yeah,
but
this
doesn't
actually
apply
to
us
unless
we
then
take
legislative
action
and
there's
every
reason
to
think
that
the
senate
will
do
we'll,
add
this
red
if
they
do
in
fact
ratify
cdaw.
So
that
means
that
you'll
still
need
the
grassroots
movement
to
have
the
treaty
applied
domestically.
B
Okay,
so
any
questions
about
this
background
context.
A
Mary,
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
what
I
am
curious
of
is
you
know,
as
a
gender
justice
and
intersectional
gender
justice
say
that
five
times
fast
attorney
what
your
day-to-day
has
been.
Looking
like
now,
with
roe
v
wade,
you
know
and
the
light
of
american
exceptional
exceptionalism
right
where
you
know
there's
rainbows
and
unicorns,
and
we
have
this
very
clear,
assault
and
attack
on
choice.
A
What
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
work
have
you
been
up
to,
or
at
least
what
partners
have
you
engaged
in
or
is
it
just?
You
know
you
want
to
just
set
it
all
on
fire.
B
Yeah
I
wish
I
had
some
great
news,
but
I
think
that
I
mean
a
couple
things
from
like
a
legal
technical
standpoint.
B
I
hope
that
when
the
dobbs
decision
is
released,
that
the
council
for
jackson
has
actually
brings
the
case
to
the
inter-american
commission
on
human
rights,
so
when
you
lose
at
the
supreme
court,
you
can
actually
bring
your
case
to
a
regional
human
rights
body
called
the
inter-american
commission
on
human
rights,
which
is
actually
located
in
washington
dc.
B
But
most
lawyers
don't
even
know
about
this
and
you
litigate
the
case,
but
the
case
of
forces
reframed
as
a
violation
of
human
rights.
The
inter-american
commission
already
has
case
law
showing
that
denying
access
to
abortion
is
problematic
under
relevant
regional
human
rights
standards.
B
Of
course,
the
problem
is
that
when
you
get
a
a
judgment
from
a
human
rights
body,
be
it
at
the
regional
or
u.n
level,
you
then
have
to
try
to
enforce
that
judgment,
and
the
u.s
has
lots
of
judgments
against
it
issued
by
the
inter-american
commission
most
in
the
context
of
the
death
penalty,
and
you
know
I
actually
litigated
one
and
one
and
my
client
was
actually
executed
last
august
of
2020,
when
there
was
that
reopening
of
the
federal
death
penalty,
it
was
horrible
and
it
flew
in
the
face
of
everything
the
american
commission
do.
B
So
I'm
not
hopeful,
but
I
think
there's
value
in
reframing
this
as
a
human
rights
violation
right
out
of
step
with
what
other
nations
are
doing.
I
mean
look
at
colombia
like
and
mexico
and
there's
the
strides
they've
made
in
abortion
rights,
so
I
think
there's
value
in
that.
I
also
think
there's
value
in
habits,
so
the
state
department
litigates
against
you
when
you
bring
cases
to
the
inter-american
commission,
and
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
what
the
state
department
says
to
try
to
defend
a
supreme
court
ruling
anyway.
B
So
that's
just
my
nerdy
law
answer,
but
but
in
terms
of
general
advocacy
strategy,
I
do
think
it's
important
to
bring
up
comparative
examples:
right,
ireland,
colombia,
mexico
in
our
work
and
and
just
how
out
of
step
and
regressive.
B
We
are
in
this
regard
yeah,
so
I
could
go
down
a
whole
rabbit
hole,
but
anyway,
that's
bringing
that
case
to
the
inter-american
commission,
though,
is
like
I
really
hope
that
happens
and
sort
of
being
my
bonnet
any
other
questions
about
the
human
rights
landscape.
Before
I
move
on
okay,
so
next
I
just
want
to
talk
a
bit
about
rcdot
advocacy
in
la
county
and
the
recent
san
diego
ordinance.
B
So
I
worked
with
my
students
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
and
spent
three
years
conducting
in-depth
factual
legal
research
on
cdaw
and
local
implementation.
B
We
prepared
a
series
of
briefing
papers
for
the
county
and
gave
a
series
of
presentations
to
various
decision
makers
and
then
last
november,
l.a
county
adopted
a
c
dot
ordinance,
and
I
should
note,
however,
that
this
is
the
first
of
two
ordinances:
they
sort
of
bifurcated
their
ordinance
into
the
substantive
ordinance
and
what
will
hopefully
be
the
enforcement
portion
of
the
ordinance,
and
I
my
sense
is
that
this
is
due
to
internal
logistical
issues
rather
than
any
other
sort
of
strategy.
B
So
then,
in
terms
of
san
diego
out
of
curiosity,
has
anyone
been
following
the
journey
of
san
diego's
seat
ordinance?
Oh,
so,
I've
been
a
consultant
for
the
ordinance,
which
is
quite
strong
and
progressive.
In
many
ways,
the
san
diego
board
of
supervisors
voted
unanimously
to
develop
the
ordinance
late
last
year
and
then
to
its
credit,
the
cdaw
task
force,
leading
the
drafting
of
the
ordinance
held
two
public
forums
which
judy
spoke
at
to
gather
resident
input
on
the
measure
and
at
those
forums.
B
B
In
fact,
the
fierce
opposition
was
on
the
local
news
in
san
diego
and
two
of
the
five
supervisors
who
had
voted
in
favor
of
the
measure's
development
ended
up
voting
against
the
measure
on
its
tentative
and
final
approval,
and
they
cited
their
belief
that
the
measure
would
in
fact
discriminate
against
cisgender
women.
B
B
And
but
thankfully,
the
ordinance
passed
last
week
with
a
three
to
two
vote.
But
it
was,
you
know,
a
real
sort
of
battleground
for
gender
inclusivity
and
certainly
a
lesson
for
cedaw
advocacy
going
forward.
E
Thank
you
for
that.
Also,
thank
you
for
fighting
the
good
fight
on
behalf
of
gender
inclusivity.
That
sounds
like
a
terrible
thing,
a
terrible
battle.
I'm
sorry
that
we
weren't
tracking,
that
you
know
we
were
so
proud
here
in
pittsburgh,
to
write
the
word
intersectional
into
our
ordinance
and
at
the
time
we
did
that.
I
know
that
we
were
the
first.
I
don't
know
if
we
are
still
the
only
is.
Are
we
still
the
only
ordinance
that
uses
that
word
or
have
others
additive.
B
B
Any
other
questions
about
advocacy
my
experiences,
okay,
so
I
thought
I
would
end
with
a
selection
of
ideas
for
how
to
strengthen
seed
on
measures
going
forward,
and
some
of
these
ideas
might
be
a
fit
for
pittsburgh,
and
some
may
not.
I
mean
the
beauty
of
cdaw
is
that
it's
there's
no
one-size-fits-all
and
it's
customized
for
each
jurisdiction.
B
So
under
human
rights
law
right
governments
have
an
obligation
to.
You
know:
promote
gender
justice,
not
just
eliminate
gender
discrimination,
meaning
that
it's
not
enough
for
governments
to
make
sure
they're
not
being
discriminatory.
They
should
be
taking
proactive
steps
to
fulfill
the
rights
of
their
residents
and
protect
these
rights
from
interference.
B
So
these
ideas
are
with
this
sort
of
proactive
approach
in
mind.
The
first
is
about
data
collection,
one
of
the,
if
not
the
defining
feature
of
cdaw
measures
is
the
outlined
process
for
collecting
and
analyzing
intersectional
gender
data
right.
This
is
really
the
heart
of
c
dawn
measures,
because
it
creates
a
baseline
understanding
of
where
the
jurisdiction
is
in
terms
of
gender
justice
and
where
it
needs
to
get.
B
B
B
So
what
I
mean
by
resident
wide
is
that
a
lot
of
jurisdictions
seem
to
be
collecting
data
internally
from
like
about
the
local
government
itself,
rather
than
looking
at
you
know
the
community
and
what
its
needs
are
and
it's
you
know,
demographics
and
and
then
sort
of
adjusting
service
provision
accordingly,
and
so
both
of
those
things
need
to
be
happening
in
an
ideal
world.
B
So
that's
the
first
idea
to
strengthen
seatal
measures.
The
second
is-
and
this
doesn't
really
apply
to
you
all-
that
acetone
measure
should
be
explicitly
intersectional
throughout
their
provisions
and
again
we
tip
our
hats
to
pittsburgh.
As
a
trailblazer
in
this
regard,
the
third
idea
for
strengthening
seed
all
measures
is
to
create
channels
for
cdoc
committee
guidance.
B
So
I
spent
some
time
describing
the
interpretive
guidance
that
the
seat,
the
the
uncdaw
committee,
provides
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
I'm
biased
as
a
human
rights
lawyer.
But
to
me
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
waste
that
local
jurisdictions
are
not
informed
about
this
ongoing
guidance
and
engaging
with
it,
and
you
know
deciding
whether
it
makes
sense
to
to
consider
and
create
services
that
reflect
that
guidance.
B
So,
for
example,
seed
all
recently
issued
some
guidance
regarding
the
gendered
impacts
of
climate
change,
and
they
just
gave
a
really
beautiful,
what's
called
a
general
recommendation
describing
all
of
the
multifaceted
ways
that
gender
and
climate
change
intersect
and,
of
course,
how
gender
justice
can
be
a
real
key
to
climate
justice,
and
so
I
just
think
the
guidance
they
create
right.
B
The
committee
is
composed
of
23
gender
justice
experts
from
across
the
globe
and
I
think
that
their
their
guidance
not
only
keeps
the
treaty
itself
relevant,
but
can
really
help
cdaw
programs
at
the
local
level.
So
that's
my
third
idea.
My
fourth
is
to
create
channels
for
regular
input
from
civil
society
organizations
and
local
stakeholders.
B
I
say
this
mindful
of
confidentiality
concerns
that
some
local
governments
had
because
I've
run
into
that
with
l.a
county,
but
again,
ideally
the
more
sort
of
local
stakeholder
involvement.
The
better.
B
My
fifth
idea
to
strengthen
cedaw
measures
is
to
create
public
education
campaigns.
You
know,
for
example,
to
combat
harmful
stereotypes
and
promote
healthy
ideas
about
masculinity
and
then
my
final
way
to
strengthen
seed.
All
measures
is
to
explore
a
private
sector
initiative.
B
One
model
for
promoting
gender
justice
in
the
private
sector
was
it
actually
developed
in
san
francisco
in
connection
with
its
cdaw
program,
san
francisco
passed
a
measure
with
a
set
of
what
they
called
gender
equality
principles
that
companies,
based
in
the
bay
area
signed
on
to
san
francisco,
then
rolled
out
a
series
of
carrots
right
to
incentivize
company
compliance
with
the
principles.
So,
for
example,
you
know
they
would
have
dinners
celebrating
the
company
that
made
the
most
strides
in
gender
justice
that
year,
so
it
didn't.
B
B
So
we
love
this
idea,
so
we
actually
took
both
san
francisco's
principles
and
the
un
principles
did
a
lot
of
research
and
came
up
with
our
own
principles
that
cover
all
of
what's
covered
by
those
and
have
pitched
that
to
l.a
l.a
county
and
we
hope
they
implement
it
at
some
point.
But
I'd
love
to
see
as
many
jurisdictions
as
possible
start
to
explore
private
sector
initiatives.
B
B
These
are
management
and
governance,
so
this
is
within
the
companies,
remember
so:
management
and
governance,
employment,
compensation
and
equitable
treatment,
health
safety
and
freedom
from
violence,
access
to
education
and
trading
media
depictions,
including
marketing
and
advertising
and
business
decisions,
including
the
selection
of
business
partners,
community
engagement
and
advocacy,
and
transparency
and
accountability
through
concrete
measures.
So
I
list
these
just
to
give
a
sense
of
how
comprehensive
this
initiative
can
be.
It's
not
it's
well
beyond
sort
of
a
like
diversity.
B
Initiative
that
can
sometimes
lead
to
you
know
serve
as
like
window
dressing
for
deeper
changes
in
the
private
sector.
I
think
so.
In
conclusion,
oh
my
gosh,
I
have
seven
minutes.
Okay.
In
conclusion,
I
published
a
ms
magazine
article
that
lists
some
other
thoughts.
B
I
can
put
that
link
in
the
chat,
but
I
just
want
to
close
by
underscoring
the
aspect
of
local
cdl
implementation
that
I
find
most
inspiring
international
human
rights,
even
though
we
tend
to
think
of
it
as
a
concept
that
applies
elsewhere
or
in
other
countries
or
if
at
all,
to
the
us,
then,
at
the
federal
level,
international
human
rights
has
always
been
always
meant
to
be
applied
locally
right
in
our
own
backyard.
B
So
local
implementation
is
the
key
to
real
world
change,
and
you
know,
even
if
you
get
a
victory
at
a
global
level
or
regional
level,
it
means
very
little
until
it's
implemented
close
to
home
right.
So
I'll
close
with
the
eleanor
roosevelt
quote,
where,
after
all,
do
human
universal
human
rights
begin
in
small
places
close
to
home
unless
these
rights
have
meaning
there,
they
have
little
meaning
anywhere
without
concerted
citizen
action
to
uphold
them
close
to
home.
B
C
Mary,
I
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
you
hit
on
something
that
I've
been
having
conversations
with
my
private
sector
hr
peers,
and
that
is
about
the
work
of
cedaw
and
how
it
is
not
really
done
in
the
private
sector.
So
I'm
very
pleased
to
hear
you
talk
about
that.
There's
conversation
initially,
but
how
can
we
bring
that
conversation?
You
know
I'm
all
about
the
verb
and
I'm
appreciative
of
california
and
everything.
C
But
you
know
since
the
birth
we're
already
trendsetting
with
what
we're
doing
here
for
the
gender
equity
commission.
How
can
we
elevate
that
conversation
and
what
are
some
tips
that
you
can
share
with
me
that
I
can
take
back
with
my
hr
colleagues
in
the
private
sector
so
that
way
they
can
start
this
conversation.
C
It's
one
thing
to
have
government
whether
it's
local
state
or
federal
and
we're
always
looking
at
the
broader
picture
for
the
greater
good
and
sometimes
the
private
sector
doesn't
always
or
think,
or
I
shouldn't
say
that
sometimes
the
private
sector
doesn't
think
they
have
an
impact.
Whereas
in
this
aspect
of
work
I
really
believe
that
they
can
be
very
effective.
So
how
can
we
start
that
conversation?
C
What
are
some
things
for
the
burke
that
we
can
do,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
great
institutions
here
that
are
pretty
well
known
worldwide
right,
but
the
pncs
you
you've
got
from
the
healthcare
markets.
You've
got
the
banking
b
and
y
melon
pnc,
etc.
How
can
we
start
there
with
those
heavy
hitters
that
could
help
us
spread
that
message
abroad
from
a
private
sector
standpoint,
because
I
think
it's
needed
yeah.
B
Great
question:
thanks
for
that,
I
think
that
coveted
19
has
really
laid
bare
both
existing
inequalities,
and
you
know
exacerbated
those
inequalities,
and
I
think
it's.
I
don't
know
that
you
can
still
deny
that
the
private
sector
has
a
really
profound
impact
on
gender
justice
and
just
sorry,
another
legal
nerdy
footnote.
You
know
the
way
employment
law
works
right.
If
you
experience
any
form
of
discrimination,
the
employee
has
to
raise
that
concern,
thereby
risking
their
livelihood
right
their
ability
to
put
food
on
the
table,
and
you
know
we
als.
B
We
also
know
that
70
percent
of
employees
who
raise
issues
of
sexual
harassment
or
discrimination
are
retaliated
against
and
that's
not
even
counting
those
who
don't
raise
issues
because
they
see
what's
going
to
happen
to
them.
So
to
me,
that's
just
like
a
flawed
model
in
terms
of
enforcing
the
laws
like
you
can
have
the
best
laws
in
the
world.
California
has
amazing
employment
laws
for
employees,
and
yet
you
know
these
problems
persist
because
of
this
model.
B
So
I
think,
if
nothing
else
like
having
a
set
of
principles
that
companies
adhere
to
sign
on
to
and
adhere
to,
like
adds
a
different
pressure
point
for
them
to
you
know,
promote
gender
justice
so
and
the
way
it
would
work
is
that,
rather
than
just
have
them
sign
on
to
this
big
set
of
principles
that
you
know
sound,
really
nice,
but
don't
have
any
sort
of
bite.
B
B
You
know,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
sort
of
sticks
available,
but
there's
certainly
carrots,
so
that
you
can.
You
can
publicize
who's
doing
great
and
that
again
puts
pressure
on
companies
who
are
not
doing
great,
there's
other
tools
that
that
the
un
has
actually
created.
That
are
great
that
allow
companies
to
actually
fill
out
an
assessment
of
how
they're
doing
online
and
then
get
a
report
on
how
they
can
improve
and
it's
all
confidential.
B
And
then
you
know,
aggregated
statistics
are
made
available
to
the
local
jurisdiction.
So
there's
there's
sort
of
tools
like
that
that
provide
you
know
concrete
metrics
and
you
know
I
have
to.
I
think
a
lot
of
company
owners
actually
do
want
to
sort
of
do
the
right
thing,
but
they
don't
know
how
so
this
program
gives
them
the
information
of
what
to
do.
B
You
know
they're,
like
okay,
we
know
we
need
to
like
have
pay
equity
but
like
what
else
are
we
supposed
to
do
and
and
there's
a
lot
else
they're
supposed
to,
and
I
think
these
principles
really
lay
that
out
and
then
the
the
linkage
to
the
local
government
really
provides
an
additional
legitimacy
and
additional
hook
like
a
teeth
and
from
last
thing
I'll
say,
is
from
a
human
rights
standpoint.
B
So
we
in
the
u.s
have
a
very
sort
of
like
hands-off
approach
in
government
and
that's
actually
out
of
whack,
with
what's
required
of
governments
at
all
levels
under
international
human
rights
law.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
unfortunately
have
a
hard
stop
at
five,
but
I
really
sincerely
spending
you
spending
your
time
with
the
gender
equity
commission
here
in
pittsburgh
this
afternoon
and
just
providing
us
the
expertise
lens
of
how
cdot
functions
and
the
nitty
gritties.
I
wish
we
had
more
time,
but
again,
thank
you.
It
is
much
appreciated,
so
being
that's
five
o'clock,
I
would
be
respectful
of
people's
time
city.
Friends.
Are
there
any
public
comments
from
folks.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
last
things
like
super
last
minute.
G
I
can
share
mary's
contact
information
with
the
gender
equity
commissioner
yeah
and
in
fact
mary,
if
you
want
to
send
me,
I
think
you
talked
about
a
ms
magazine
article
and
maybe
the
links
to
the
la
and
the
un
principles.
If
you
want
you
and
I
can
touch
base
and
then
I
can
send
like
some
kind
of
follow-ups
with
information
that
we
discussed,
or
that
was
mentioned
today
to
the
commissioners.
Okay,
yes,.