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A
Good
morning
everybody
welcome
to
the
February
meeting
of
the
Housing
Opportunity
Fund
Advisory
Board.
We
generally
get
started
with
public
comment.
We
do
public
comment
at
the
beginning
and
at
the
end
of
each
meeting
Gloria.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
public
comment?
She?
No!
No
anybody
public
comment
right
now,
no
okay,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
call
roll
Mina
Andrews.
Here.
B
C
A
Channel
Polly
here
Joanna
dimming
drove
Jackson
Teresa
Kel
Smith,
no
majestic
Blaine,
not
here
Mark
Masterson
yeah.
D
A
A
F
Good
morning,
so,
we've
got
two
projects
today
kind
of
that
are
coming
before
you
for
rental
gap,
financing,
the
first
being
residents
at
Wood
Street
at
301
third
Avenue
here
in
the
central
business
district.
This
is
a
259
unit,
single
room,
occupancy
building
it's
entirely
occupied
by
low-income
residents,
and
it's
the
only
single
room
occupancy
facility
in
downtown
Pittsburgh.
What
their
plans
are
significant
capital
improvements,
as
well
as
the
funding
of
social
services
provided
at
the
facility,
so
in
the
residential
portion
of
the
building,
which
is
floors
7
through
16.
F
They
plan
to
install
a
new
fire
pump
update
sprinkler
heads
throughout
the
facility
connect
a
residential
elevator
to
an
emergency
generator,
install
card
readers
on
doors
throughout
the
residential
section
of
the
building
to
enhance
security,
as
well
as
additional
security
cameras,
there's
potentially
dangerous,
crumbling
facade
sections
along
3rd
Avenue.
That
will
also
be
repaired
with
this
funding
and
a
possible
rehabilitation
of
the
building's
front
desk.
F
So
these
improvements
will
benefit
all
259
units
based
on
the
HOF
deed
restriction
that
would
be
recorded.
80
units
would
be
subject
to
permanent
deed
restrictions,
30
units
at
30%,
ami
or
below
and
50
units
at
50%,
AMI
and
below
a
little
bit
about
the
services
that
are
provided
to
residents.
Community
Human
Services
is
the
sole
provider
of
services
at
the
facility,
including
various
forms
of
case
management
such
as
recently
released,
formerly
incarcerated
residents
in
transitional
types
of
housing,
medical
respite.
F
How
and
they
also
have
a
cafe
there
that
provides
low-cost
meals
to
residents
seven
days
a
week
twice
twice
a
day.
The
total
project
costs
are
four
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
dollars,
including
the
30
thousand.
That's
allocated
for
services,
the
Federal
Home,
Loan,
Bank,
affordable
housing
program,
there's
70
thousand
dollars
that
they've
received
through
that
program,
and
they
have
a
Bridgeway
capital
bridge
loan
that
covers
the
rest
and
the
ura
or
the
HOF
portion
is
three
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
that's
the
recommendation
today.
F
Looking
well
I'll
also
speak
to
their
MWBE
and
diversity
narrative.
They
have
been
there
in
good
standing
with
performance
and
compliance
at
the
ura.
At
this
point,
an
approved
MWBE
plan
would
be
final.
Mwbe
plan
would
be
required
before
loan
closing,
which
we
expect
to
be
in
no
more
than
three
months
from
now,
work
is
expected
to
start
almost
immediately.
G
F
That
and
last
about
I
believe
up
to
six
months,
just
looking
at
their
scoring
here,
how
they
they,
this
this
project
scored
actually
exceptionally
well
and
based
on
the
program's
criteria.
We
believe
that
it's
ready
to
start
as
soon
as
fundings,
secured
residences
at
Wood
Street,
is
constantly
making
updates
and
upgrades
to
their
facility.
So
we
believe
the
capacity
of
the
development
team
is
strong.
They
have
an
extensive
knowledge
of
what
their
building
needs.
F
F
The
median
rent
for
a
studio
apartment,
which
would
be
the
most
comparable
form
of
housing
in
downtown,
is
about
$1,100,
so
there's
really
no
other
place
where
this
level
of
affordability
is
achieved
in
the
central
business
district,
also
by
virtue
of
being
downtown.
They
do
exceptionally
well
for
a
lot
of
the
p4
metrics
transit
proximity
to
bus
lines,
walkability
bikeability
and
because
of
their
extensive
services,
provided
they
score
extremely
well
in
that
category
too.
So
the
ass
today
is
for
three
hundred
eighty
thousand
and
I'll
open
it
up
to
comments.
I
think.
I
A
I
J
K
L
H
F
N
Good
morning
my
name
is
Kevin
Hanley
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
residences
of
Wood
Street,
the
owner
and
operator,
and
the
nonprofit
and
operator
of
which
tree
Commons.
We
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
very
much
appreciate
the
committee
taking
up
this
proposal.
We
are
continuing
to
work
on
the
building
the
nonprofit
acquired
this
building
about
ten
years
ago,
and
since
then,
we've
been
working
to
improve
it.
We've
tackled
a
huge
amount
of
capital
projects,
we've
redeveloped
the
commercial
space
to
help
generate
income
to
continue
to
operate
the
building.
N
We
continue
to
partner
with
community
human
services
to
provide
services
to
the
folks
that
live
there.
This
is
really
a
huge
asset
in
addition
to
being
affordable
housing.
The
key
I
think
to
wood
street
Commons
in
particular,
is
that
it's
supportive
housing
and
a
lot
of
the
folks
that
live
there
have
not
only
housing
needs
and
they
also
have
supportive
service
needs
and
they
can
be
met
there.
So
we
appreciate
your
consideration.
Thank
you.
A
So
so
we
talked
with
them,
went
over
there,
their
scope,
really.
The
suggested
reduction
is
in
part
that
they
had
included
a
50,000
request
for
social
services,
but
we
had
some
concern
that,
based
on
how
they
paid
for
social
services,
that
that
would
be
kind
of
a
longer
period
of
time
between
18
months
and
2-year
disbursement.
So
for
that
reason
we
reduced
that
to
thirty-four
a
year
disbursement.
C
A
Actually,
an
error:
we
actually
meant
to
write
ad
restricted
units,
so
so
the
entire
building
is
affordable
at
these
levels,
but
they
have
different
programs
that
they
operate
in
their
building.
Not
all
of
them
have
leases
okay.
So
for
that
reason,
we're
only
actually
going
to
record
480
of
the
proper
of
the
units,
but
the
mission
of
the
building
and
all
their
other
funding
sources
and
other
contracts
is
such
that
the
entire
building
will
main
will
remain
affordable
for
a
very
long
time.
Okay,.
A
Range
is
because,
on
their
application,
they
they
actually
agreed
to
99
years,
and
that
is
in
spirit
with
the
legislation
and-
and
we
may
close
it
with
that,
but
but
we
need
to
have
conversations
with
the
other
lenders
about
what
that
means.
By
doing
that,
so
we
just
want
to
put
ourselves
some
flexibility
and
to
not
to
come
back
to
the
advisory
board
if,
for
whatever
reason,
we
need
a
smaller
period.
So
that's
why
it
says
35
to
99.
H
M
H
A
H
H
A
Dave
they've
done
a
pretty
good
job,
raising
funds
in
the
past
and
in
full
disclosure
to
you.
Ra
has
other
loans
and
grants
in
this
building
and
has
you
know,
worked
with
them
through
several
refinancing
over
the
last
ten
years,
but
through
the
course
of
that
they
have
had
probably
20
different
public
private
philanthropic
government
sources
in
the
building's.
So
fundraising
is
something
they
do
well.
N
G
C
A
F
Yep,
so
the
other
project
is
Oakland
planning
in
Development
Corporation's,
Park,
View
Manor.
This
is
located
in
South
Auckland
at
3
to
5
0
Park,
you
Avenue.
It
is
a
15
unit,
HUD
202,
affordable
living
property
for
seniors
and
people
with
disabilities.
The
project
just
renewed
its
HUD
section
8
contract
for
20
years
and
OPEC
has
owned
and
operated
the
project
since
the
early
90s.
F
The
buildings
in
need
of
some
capital
improvements,
the
renovations
that
are
before
us
today
on
the
table,
are
the
replacement
of
heating
and
cooling
units
in
each
unit.
The
replacement
of
all
of
the
windows
in
Park
View
Manor.
The
building
has
two
shared
hot
water
tanks,
one
of
which
is
not
functioning
properly
right
now,
so
the
full
replacement
of
one
of
those
tanks
is
also
included
in
their
scope,
also
some
necessary
landscaping
that
would
make
the
property
more
accessible
to
all
of
the
residents
and
communal
hallway
carpeting.
F
On
all
three
residential
floors,
work
is
likely
to
be
initiated
almost
as
soon
as
closing
occurs
and
would
be
complete.
Within
six
months
of
funding,
all
the
15
units
will
be
affordable.
The
h,
oefb
restriction
will
be
recorded
for
five
units
at
30
percent
ami
or
below
the
requested
amount
that
we
have
in
the
loan
packet
is
one
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars.
That
is
what
we
expected.
The
total
project
costs
to
be
here,
however,
we're
still
finalizing
a
couple
of
bids
with
OPD
C.
F
F
This
project
will
be
solely
funded
by
HOF
funds
for
these
improvements
that
we
hope
are
proactively
maintaining
the
building
so
that
residents
aren't
displaced
down
the
line
by
deferred
maintenance.
The
project
is
below
the
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
threshold
that
would
trigger
the
URA
s.
Mwbe
review
process,
however,
will
be
insuring
throughout
the
process
that
OPD
C
is
being
as
equitable
and
inclusive
with
their
procurement
of
labor
and
materials
for
this
project.
F
This
is
a
project
that,
in
they
have
a
lengthy
waiting
list,
there's
clearly
a
need
in
Oakland
for
this
type
of
housing,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
remains
in
the
neighborhood.
They
don't
have
services
per
se,
but
they
are
a
very
it's.
A
very
active
property
in
the
neighborhood.
The
South
Auckland
neighborhood
group
meets
in
their
community
space
as
well
as
a
neighboring
HOA,
so
they
are
extremely
active
in
the
community
looking
at
their
scoring,
they
did
extremely
well
also
in
their
readiness
to
proceed
and
their
capacity
of
the
development
team.
F
F
G
F
Yet
to
see
a
project
in
Oakland-
and
there
aren't
many
like
it
in
Oakland,
so
they
scored
highly
there
as
well
as
in
their
housing
metric
because
of
the
accessibility
of
their
units
geared
towards
seniors
and
disabled
residents
and
they're
also
proximate
to
quality
transit
and
their
leadership
and
position
in
the
community
also
scored
them.
Some
points
as
well,
so
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions
and
representatives
from
OPD
C
are
in
the
audience
as
well.
To
answer
questions
if
needed,.
I
A
I
A
Okay,
so
this
is,
you
know
one
of
the
functions
of
the
ura.
We
have
a
compliance
department
that
every
year
will
check
so
upon
initial
occupancy.
They'll
do
two
income
verifications
and
then,
every
year
after
that,
due
to
income
verifications-
and
this
particular
building
is
a
project-based
section,
8
contract,
so
every
should
fit
the
income
requirements
by
nature
to
building
and.
I
Q
I
think
Evan
did
a
great
job
of
explaining
our
project
and
we'd
be
really
grateful
for
this
money.
It's
a
whole
list
of
things
to
improve
on
the
building.
It's
you
know
the
buildings.
Okay
now
and
as
I
said,
this
is
a
huge
need
across
the
city
but
senior
buildings.
Usually
the
wait
list
on
this
property.
It's
15
units,
usually
the
wait
list-
is
at
least
15
people
on
it.
Q
So
yeah.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
I
can
answer
any
questions,
but
it's
it's
good
to
go
and
get
like
Derek's
question.
Earlier.
The
wheat
income
qualify
our
tenants
every
single
year.
They
have
to
give
us
their
information,
so
we'll
always
have
that
information
be
able
to
provide.
It
would
be
zero
issues
because
we've
already
agreed
through
the
head
program
to
income
income,
qualify,
people
Thanks.
P
L
I
don't
know
if
this
will
be
better
addressed
by
Allie,
but
the
30
years
and
I
know
the
conversation
related
to
the
Oakland.
Clt
has
been
largely
for
sale,
but
I
guess
I'd
be
interested
if
there's
an
ability.
You
know
for
this
to
become
part
of
that.
You
know
obviously
it's
rental,
but
it
would
still
be
an
instrument
to
protect
sort
of
long-term
affordability.
If
that
conversation
has
happened
yet
or
not
so.
Q
This
is
absolutely
instrument
of
our
affordability
program
that
o
PDC
runs.
We
view
our
Community
Land
Trust,
as
for
home
ownership,
some
community
land
Trust's
are
do
include
rentals
in
them.
From
our
perspective,
our
rentals
are
the
most
part
bored
restricted
an
organizational
mission
restricted
for
affordability.
This
Inc
this
project
is
had
restricted
through
the
housing
housing
program.
It
we
just
signed
a
new
20-year
contract
with
them.
Q
P
Q
A
Would
like
to
also
make
one
more
suggestion.
Evans
said
when
we
approved
the
loan
amount
to
make
it
between
175
up
to
200
thousand
on
the
term
as
well,
and
this
gets
to
Derek's
question
a
little
bit.
There
is
cash
flow
on
this
building
because
of
project
base.
We
need
to
finalize
discussions
with
OPD
C
in
terms
of
the
actual
term
based
on
the
cash
flow.
We
have
a
15-year
term
here,
but
if
we
could
take
that
15
to
20
years,
that
would
be
good
as
well.
L
A
So
we
are
excited
today
to
talk
about
the
homeowner
Assistance
Program,
which
we
evolved
in
I,
think
excited
about
and
and
anxious
to
see
it
gets
started.
So
the
ura
issued
an
RFP
in
December
we
received
responses.
We
received
five
responses
originally
a
couple
days
after
the
responses
were
received.
A
We
we
kept
the
RFP
on
our
website
and
changed
rolling
due
date
to
change
the
due
date
to
rolling
who
says
received
one
more
response,
so
we've
reviewed
all
six
respondents
and
are
bringing
all
six
in
front
of
you
today
to
service
program
administers
just
to
refresh
everybody's
memory.
This
is
the
program
where
homeowners
will
be
able
to
apply
to
the
ura
to
get
much-needed
work
done
in
their
houses.
Households
underneath
50%,
ami
and
30%
ami
will
keep
track
of
the
two
income
tiers.
They
will
apply
here,
Sharon
Taylor
Sharon.
A
Can
you
stand
up
she's
the
program
administrator
for
this
HOF
program
at
the
ura,
so
she'll
be
receiving
the
applications
and
checking
the
households
incomes,
and
then
she
will
work
with
the
six
program
administrators
to
then.
You
know
past
the
houses
over
to
them
and
they
will
work
with
the
homeowner
to
do
work,
write-ups
and
figure
out
the
scope
of
the
rehab
and
the
program
administrators.
A
Don't
they
are
all
here
today
and
can
answer
specific
questions,
but
they
either
have
in
house
construction
capacity
or
they
work
with
subcontractors
directly
themselves,
and
so
they
will
then
be
submitting
to
work
write-ups.
You
are
a
as
part
of
HOF.
The
HOF
is
funding
an
inspector
position
at
the
ura
and
the
inspector
will
then
review
the
work
write-ups
go
out
to
the
house
at
the
beginning
and
at
the
end,
and
sometimes
even
during
the
middle
of
the
construction.
A
So
that
will
be
the
process
and
then
so
will
hold
contracts
with
the
program
administrators
and
as
they
perform
to
work.
They
will
then
invoice
the
URA
under
those
contracts.
So
we
received
six
and
you'll
see
the
list
here
in
your
packet.
So
the
six
responses
were
action:
housing,
Inc
Habitat
for
Humanity,
hilltop,
Alliance,
Nazareth,
housing
services,
Oakland
Planning
and
Development
Corporation
and
rebuilding
Together
Pittsburgh.
A
You
can
see
on
the
second
or
I
guess
on
page
three
of
your
packet,
some
of
them
worked
citywide
action,
housing
will
work,
citywide,
Habitat
Nazareth
will
work
citywide,
the
others
have
focus
Rebuilding
Together
Pittsburgh
has
formed
partnerships
with
neighborhood
cdc's,
and
so
they
have
I
put
between
six
and
eleven
neighborhoods,
because
it
depends
how
you
count.
Lawrenceville
has.
A
A
So
they
have
relationships
with
those
groups
and
then
the
hilltop
Alliance
situated
in
the
hilltop
area,
and
they
will
work
only
in
those
eleven
hilltop
neighborhoods
and
then
Oakland
planning,
Development
Corporation
is
in
Oakland
and
they
will
service
tough
too
for
Oakland
neighborhoods.
So
you
can
see
the
requests
and
amount
that
they
requested
from
us
and
then
what
the
recommended
amount
is,
and
in
most
cases
it
was
reduced
really
because
of
geography.
A
You
know
we
do
have
to
service
an
entire
city,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
funds
are
spread
out
amongst
the
19,
aber
hood.
So
if
it
appeared
that
the
request
was,
you
know
maybe
too
large
for
a
small
geographic
area,
it
was
reduced
down
primarily
because
of
that,
and
and
also
these
are
pilot.
This
is
a
pilot
program.
So
so
we're
not
granting
any
contracts
above
500,
but
there
is
some
funding
available
in
the
budget.
The
budget
itself
is
I.
Think
2.23.
A
We
listed
our
RFP
as
one
point
875
to
leave
500
thousand
here
at
the
URA.
For
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
is
because
the
Advisory
Board
agreed
to
let
households
up
to
80
percent
ami
participate
in
the
program
for
emergency
water,
sewer
and
gas
line
repair,
and
when
it
comes
to
these
emergency
repairs,
we
thought
it
would.
A
It
would
make
sense
for
the
URA
to
keep
those
funds
in
the
house
to
be
able
to
respond.
You
know
within
a
day
or
two
of
when
the
emergency
happens,
so
that
was
part
of
the
reason
we
kept
some
funds.
Additionally,
we
wanted
to
be
in
a
position
to
increase
people's
contracts.
If
they're
burning
through
them
really
quickly,
then
we
have
a
little
bit
of
extra
funds
to
increase
people's
contracts
as
well.
A
It's
also
important
to
note
that
the
RFP
itself
did
include
tangle
title
work,
but
we
did
not
receive
any
response
is
specific
to
the
tangle
title
work.
So
we
have
the
RFP
still
up
on
our
website.
For
rolling
and
have
talked
to
you
folks
in
the
community
development
field
about
this,
and
it
is
possible
that
we
will
receive
one
or
two
responses
for
this-
the
work
in
the
future
months,
so
we
will
leave
it
out
there
I'm
in
case
that
happens.
P
I
A
The
team
is
going
to
speak
to
you
in
a
little
bit
about
all
the
public
outreach
she's
been
doing
so
we
are
a
good
part
of
her
job
is
to
make
sure
we
get
an
all
90
neighborhoods
with
this
application,
but
so
the
application
will
then
go
to
you
are
a
the
ura
will
be
at
the
front
door,
and-
and
we
felt
like
that-
we're
proposing
that,
because
to
keep
it
fair
and
uniform
across
the
city.
So
folks
that
have
you
know
CDC
in
their
neighborhood
that
that's
really
pushing
it
might
be
at
a
disadvantage.
L
L
A
A
Funding
levels
and
our
program,
our
program
goes
up
to
$30,000
and
we
don't
want
if
somebody
needs
a
$30,000
good,
we
don't
want
them
like
turned
away,
because
the
other
program
parameters
that
that
program
administrator
operates
under
is
usually
less.
So
it's
almost
easier
for
them
to
have
a
clear
cut.
You
are
a
program
to
be
able
to
say
or
HOF
program
to
be
able
to
say
you
know
you
fit
this
program
and
then
another
homeowner
who
only
needs
$5,000
worth
of
work,
might
fit
their
other
program
or
their
weatherization
program.
L
I
A
A
A
R
And
here
we
see
some
of
those
groups
here
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
what
you're
doing
you
know
I'd
like
to
hear
about
the
community
outreach
and
what
you're
doing
to
get
other
folks
involved,
because
it
seems
to
me
that
this
is
just
paying
off
the
court
that
the
organizations
that
came
out
and
and
pushed
for
this,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
really
open
and
transparent
and
really
op,
offering
the
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
groups,
especially
in
my
side
of
town.
We
only
have
one
CDC.
R
Currently
the
MW,
CDC
and
I
see
the
hilltop
neighborhoods
covered
by
the
hilltop
Alliance
eyes.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
11
neighborhoods
include
my
district,
but
they
have
their
own
CDC
and
in
Mount
Washington
some
curious
how
that
relationships
working
out
and
what
that's
with
you
know
whether
or
not
the
MW
CDC
will
be
included
in
this.
So
I'm
going
to
abstain
from
this.
Thank
you.
Hmmm.
P
H
A
How,
with
that
and
to
work
with
the
homeowners
with
that
I
know,
there
is
also
some
concern
from
a
couple
of
the
program
administrators.
They
were
just
afraid.
People
just
would
not
want
to
sign
the
documents.
I
can
tell
you
from
experience
at
the
URA,
with
our
other
home
rehab
program
or
0%
interest
program
and
a
lot
of
the
folks
we've
actually
had
to
turn
down
for
that
program
and
due
to
credit
and
other
reasons,
you
are
a
staff.
A
H
R
My
my
comment
earlier,
it
looks
like
pay-to-play
that
came
out
sport.
A
program
for
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
were
promised
funding
and
now
they're
getting
it,
and
even
though
they
said
at
the
table,
I'll
play
the
recording
where
they
said
that
they
weren't
going
to
benefit
from
their
funds
at
all.
And
now
here
they
are
some.
R
R
C
A
Of
the
reasons
why
we
wanted
to
do,
you
are
eight
except
all
applications
versus
we
wanted
to
be.
You
know
fair
of
a
process
as
possible
and
in
a
little
bit
the
Tina's
going
to
do
an
update
on
all
of
our
marketing
and
the
brochures
and
the
meetings
and
everything
we're
hitting
as
many
of
the
19
a
BIR
hoods
as
possible.
J
A
Know
I
mean
as
much
as
possible
we're
gonna
time
stamp
people's
applications
and
when
they
come
now.
If
that
said,
if
there's
a
meeting
somewhere
and
the
next
day,
we
literally
receive
a
hundred
applications
from
the
same
neighborhood.
We
might
have
to
have
a
larger
discussion
about
that.
But
but,
with
the
exception
of
those,
you
know
strange
things,
we're
gonna
timestamp
people's
applications.
How.
E
Did
we
do
if
I
think
if
I
did
the
math
right
on
the
high
side,
it
would
be
72
homeowners
that
would
be
helped
as
what
they're,
what
it's
expected,
I
can't
remember
what
our
projection
was
for
the
funds
when
we
were
trying
to
look
at
how
many
families
would
get
assistance
through
all
these
programs.
Where
were
we
with
this
one
and
how
to
say.
A
A
I
A
If
we
do
not
get
a
response
for
detangle
title
in
the
next
month
or
two,
we're
probably
gonna
need
to
start
powwowing
a
group
of
folks
that
work
in
this
arena
and
figure
out
how
to
how
to
get
this
service
done.
I
mean
any
of
you
that
would
like
to
be
on
a
committee
to
talk
about
it.
That'd
be
great,
yes
or.
N
G
J
A
L
L
Support
then
it's
a
little
different,
so
I
don't
know
how
sort
of
that
process
would
would
job
well
we'd
have
them
in
effect
on
retainer
and
then
in
instances
where
this
came
up
or
through
marketing
in
community
outreach,
when
we
were
made
aware
of
residents
who
need
this
type
of
support,
irrespective
of
whether
they're
you
know
benefiting
from
other
programs
that
we
have
that
you
know
we
can.
We
have
then
sort
of
a
pool
of
resources
to
pull
from,
and
you
know
use
right
is.
D
Dollars
per
will
with
an
attorney,
and
we've
also
talked
already
with
him
about
pricing
for
tangled
titles,
except
we're
actually
doing
a
pilot
of
a
dozen
with
neighborhood
legal
services,
which
turned
out
to
be
pretty
close
on
the
cost
per
the
after
this
year.
At
the
end
of
this
year,
we'll
have
a
better
sense
of
you
know
how
that
worked
out
and
which
way
to
go
from
there.
I'm.
L
Sorry
I
have
to
look
away
from
you
so
that
I
can
speak
in
the
microphone.
What's
the
little
awkward
ask
the
question,
but
so
I
on
the
wheel
side,
I
get
that
and
I
know,
that's
something
that
dr.
Bay
in
particular
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
were
kind
of
doing
proactively
when
we
reach
out,
but
there's
always
the
instances
that
you
know
we'll
uncover
or
be
made
aware
of
where
someone
has
tangled
title
already
as
opposed
to
sort
of
being
proactive
so
that
it
doesn't
happen
later
down
the
line
right.
I
P
K
Informal
conversation
with
the
bar
association
with
the
real
estate
section
and
to
make
sure
that
they're
aware
it
would
be
nice
to
enjoin
them,
at
least
in
the
spirit,
and
sometimes
they
may
be
able
to
make
recommendations
because
it
is
the
bar,
so
the
real
estate
section
they
meet
every
month
for
lunch.
Okay,.
H
R
A
O
Just
for
clarity
of
the
money
that
they're
requesting
all
the
money
you're
requesting
is
actually
going
to
doing
the
houses
I'm
going
to
overhead.
Is
that
true?
So.
A
I
T
In
compliance,
so
each
individual
project
will
be
about
$30,000
each
Rehab
to
an
individual
home.
So
what
I
will
look
at
at
the
end
of
the
year
is
to
get
to
try
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
contracting
across
the
board,
not
stipulate
that
a
$30,000
project
must
do
18
and
7.
So
that's
why
that's
coded
that
way.
I
think
it
makes
better
sense
to
get
the
data
on
an
aggregate
and
not
by
individual
project
piece.
So.
I
G
T
T
A
R
You
know
really
battle
and
Richard
couldn't
testify
to
this.
That,
and
this
was
a
previous
administration.
It
was
before
dr.
slaughter.
Was
there
so
I,
don't
know
if
it's
changed
at
all,
but
I
know
that
at
the
time
we
did
some
research
there
was
houses
and
that
they
had
worked
on
in
Florida
that
had
collapsed.
There
was
houses
in
our
district
where
the
front
porches
were
bowing
to
the.
The
residents
had
complained
about
the
foundations
and
every
one
of
the
homes
were
cracked
within
a
year,
and
so
it
was
just
a
lot
of
shoddy
construction.
R
So
I'm
curious,
you
know
as
to
their
capacity
now
and
whether
that
has
changed
it
all
under
is
anticipated.
It
already
has
with
the
doctor
slaughter
but
I'll,
be
doing
to
be
concerned
about
giving
any
funding
till
I
know
that
I.
A
R
Day,
viewed
the
applications,
but
you
were
unfamiliar
with
the
issues
across
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
that
happened.
It
happened
in
the
Hill
District.
There
was
issues
in
the
Hill
District
back
when
Tonya
Payne
was
in
office.
She
told
me
about,
and
there
are
issues
in
my
district
and
then,
as
we
started
researching
there
were
issues
in
many
places,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear.
R
They
paid
104
thousand
dollars
for
homes
that
they
could
have
purchased
in
the
area
that
were
solid
homes
for
month
or
less
one
hundred
four
thousand
dollars,
and
within
a
year
their
foundations
were
all
cracked.
Their
porches
were
bowing.
There
was
black
mold
on
the
windows
and
go
on
and
on
Norma
the
list
so
I
want
to
make
sure
whatever
we're
doing
we're
doing
something:
quality,
safe
and
healthy
for
the
family,
Derek.
U
Greater
Pittsburgh
Theresa,
yes,
I
personally,
am
aware
of
the
issues
that
you're
referencing
I
know.
Since
that
time
we
have
implemented
different
practices
to
ensure
the
quality
of
the
work
that
we're
doing.
You
know
as
far
as
the
homeownership
program
we
employ
third-party
inspectors
on
every
job
that
we
do
to
date
to
make
sure
that
the
quality
of
the
work
is
is
meeting
the
standards
of
the
homeowners
and
our
standards
as
well,
and
then
on
a
home
repair
side
which
is
but
noble.
Referencing.
Today
we've
been
doing
home
repair
projects
since
2012.
R
When
they
did,
people
did
have
concerns,
because
one
of
the
reasons
I
am
so
angry
about
this
is
when
residents
too
complained
when
the
people
that
were
that
were
in
the
homes
five
homes
complained.
They
Habitat
for
Humanity
tried
to
evict
them
and
said
that
they
were
out
of
the
release.
They
came
up
with
all
kinds
of
excuses,
and
so
that's
the
reaction
to
them.
You're
gonna
have
complaints
and
I
understand
not
everything's
perfect,
but
it's
how
you
respond
to
this
complaints
that
mattered.
R
R
U
I
do
know
how
we
deal
with
complaints
from
homeowners
that
we're
currently
working
with.
We
do
have
a
process
where
you
know
there
is
a
complaint
phone
number
that
they
can
call
at
our
office,
and
we
do
have
you
know,
staff
members
that
are
assigned
to
go
out
meet
with
those
homeowners
find
out
what
the
issues
are
and
then
we
work
out
a
written
plan
to
address
those
concerns,
and
then
we
do
have
again.
You
know
we
have
a
third
party
inspector
come
in
and
verify
that
we
have
addressed
the
concerns
at
the
homeowner
had.
U
So
if
we
do
have
those
issues
that
arise,
we
are
employing
outside
people
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
what
we
said
we
were
going
to
do
and
that
the
homeowner
is
satisfied
that
we
have
met.
You
know
the
concerns
that
they've
raised
with
us,
so
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
to
ensure
that
the
quality
of
our
work
is.
R
H
P
M
H
L
Counseling,
the
other
thing
I
would
say
to
to
you
know
reference
Jessica's
comment
earlier
is
that
there
will
be.
You
know,
inspections
done
by
the
engineering
construction
department
at
the
authority
to
ensure
that
the
work
is
done
both
to
sort
of
the
standards
that
we
would
all
hold
and
be
comfortable
living
in.
L
O
A
I
mean
the
you
are
a
you
know:
we
are
the
inspector
for
these
houses,
so
if
there
is
an
issue
later
on
it
and
we
we
get
phone
calls
from
time
to
time
at
the
URA,
through
our
other
home
improvement
programs
and
and
even
our
development
programs.
That's
a
year
or
two
you
know
later
and
and
our
inspector
always
goes,
and
you
know
to
the
extent
we
can.
We
try
to
help
the
situation.
J
A
So
so
there's
administrative
funds
as
part
of
the
10-million
everywhere,
and
so
that
is
basically
paying
that
we
are
not
charging
an
additional
inspection
fee
to
the
homeowner
I.
Think
at
one
point,
a
version
you
saw
of
the
program
guidelines
had
a
fee
to
the
homeowner
that
has
since
been
taken
out.
Okay,.
J
Great
so
my
other
question
was:
there:
are
some
timelines
that
have
been
put
on
each
of
the
contracts,
so
folks
will
be
able
to
start
projects
in
a
certain
time
frame.
So
what's
gonna
be
our
mechanism?
If
funded
entities
can't
actually
meet
those
timelines,
will
we
be
coming
back
and
doing
a
discussion?
Will
there
be
a
recapture
process?
Do
we
have
some
kind
of
structure
in
place
for
that.
A
Yeah
will
be
our
construction
engineering
department
will
be
meeting
with
the
program
administrators
regularly
to
check
to
make
sure
you
know
things
are
flowing.
If
there's
not,
we
will
try
to
intervene
early
on
and
see.
You
know
what
the
issues
are
and
how
can
we
help?
I
should
also
state
that,
even
though
the
HOF
administrative
budget
is
is
helping
to
pay
for
for
one
inspector
on
this,
we
anticipate
this
program
to
be
so
fast
and
large
that
we'll
have
a
couple
inspectors,
and
so
you
are
a
through
it's
other
sources
will
be.
A
G
A
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
that
with
our
lawyers.
Maybe
we
put
a
midpoint
check
and
if
you
don't
have
X
number
of
units
done
by
that
point,
maybe
we
can
terminate
contracts
or
really
something
like
that.
But
but
I
mean
we
want
this
to
be
a
good
experience
for
everybody
and
we'll
try
to
figure
out
what
the
issues
are
early
on.
I
So
is:
is
there
a
warranty
that
the
work
is
warranted
for
like
up
to
a
year,
I
heard
I
heard
the
review
process
and
all
that
but
I'm,
saying
okay,
a
passed
and
there's
an
issue
with
something
three
months
down
the
line?
Is
there
a
warranty
or
cannot
be
written
into
their
agreement
that
they
have
to
come
back
and
address
something
up
to
a
certain
period
of
time?
I.
A
V
A
L
P
W
Other
Pittsburgh
agree:
we
we
typically
warranty
stuff
for
a
year
and
we're
fine
with
sort
of
negotiating
the
details
of
this
and
the
contracting
phase,
but
there
has
to
be
some
level
of
the
ability
for
for
the
the
program
administrators
to
determine
the
legitimacy
of
the
of
the
claims,
because
we
do
get
warranty
requests
from
homeowners.
We've
served
that
frankly,
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
work
that
we've
done
so
it
you
know,
and
we
get
a
10%
administrative
fee
which
on
this,
which
is
tough
for
us
to
to
sort
of
cover
our
costs.
W
A
A
D
A
P
I
P
A
J
X
I'm
here
to
discuss,
HOF
marketing
and
community
outreach
I'll
first
start
off
actually
with
the
HF,
the
HOF
logo
that
we've
developed
next
slide.
So
we've
gotten
I'm.
Sorry,
we
found
a
lot
of
feedback
regarding
how
we
can
distinguish
HOF
programs
from
other.
You
are
a
program,
so
we've
developed
an
HOF
logo
to
help
with
the
distinction.
As
you
see,
those
are
the
style
guides
that
we
have.
X
We
were
able
to
get
a
different
logo
different
from
the
Uwharrie
logo,
but
because
there,
because
HOF
is
housed
in
the
ura,
it
must
follow
the
same
stylistic
guidelines.
So
it
is
a
different
logo
than
the
ura,
but
it
is
still
within
the
same
stylistic
guides
that
were
provided
to
the
ura,
but
we
will
be
looking
to
outsource
our
publishing
and
printing
materials
to
other
firms.
X
But
for
now
this
is
the
HOF
logo.
It
will
be
seen
on
all
the
marketing
materials
it's
up
on
the
billboards
that
are
currently
around
in
the
nine
districts,
but
because
we've
received
a
lot
of
feedback
on
how
we
can
distinguish
HOF
and
create
brand
recognition.
I
think
this
logo
will
definitely
help
I've
become
the
front
door
for
HOF
and
the
housing
department.
So
even
if
I
do
have,
you
know,
questions
regarding
HOF
programs
versus
ura
programs.
I
think
that
this
will
help
distinguish
the
programs
from
one
another.
X
And
then
our
billboard
campaigns
started
on
February,
4th
and
I'll
run
till
the
end
of
February
there's
one
up
in
each
district,
so
there
are
nine
up
right
now.
The
phone
number
listed
is
actually
my
direct
line,
so
people
can
be
sure
that
they
will
reach
me
directly
if
they
have
any
questions
regarding
any
of
our
H
of
programs
or
ura
programs.
In
general,
we
have
received
a
lot
of
comment
and
feedback
regarding
the
effectiveness
of
billboards
and
ensuring
that
the
messaging
is
correct.
X
Hof
is
this:
is
a
pilot
program,
so
we're
trying
all
different
marketing
methods
to
see
which
one's
work
best
for
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance
program.
There
is
an
urgency
to
get
that
message
out
across
all
nine
districts
immediately,
and
we
felt
that
billboards
did
that
in
a
most
effective
way,
alongside
going
out
into
the
different
communities
attending
different
community
meetings
and
the
evenings,
as
well
as
posting
through
social
media.
A
A
M
T
X
So
we've
looked
into
advertising
on
the
bus.
The
issue
with
that,
though,
is
that
the
buses
do
go
outside
of
the
city
and
they
don't
follow
a
consistent
route.
They
each
bus,
they
alternate
routes
throughout
the
week.
So
even
if
we
did
try
to
target
a
specific
neighborhood,
it's
not
guarantee
that
that
bus
is
going
to
help.
X
So
we
were
waiting
on
also
it's.
The
city
is
reviewing
the
contract
with
the
bus
shelter,
so
we
are
still
waiting
to
see
who
the
city's
partner
in
which
is
passed
yeah.
So
we're
gonna,
look
into
that
too.
Now
that
it
it
has
passed,
but
we
we
have
considered
that
as
well,
but
when
we
implemented
the
billboards
that
was
still
uncertain
and.
P
L
We
can
share
with
churches
and
libraries,
you
know,
etc
and
other
other
community
assets
to
kind
of
push
that
out
at
a
more
grassroots
level.
I
know
that
was
some
of
the
discussion
that
we
had.
You
know
with
our
partners:
Pittsburgh
United
in
other
places.
So
if
we've
made
any
progress
on
that
front
in.
X
X
X
R
X
And
the
billboards
are
multi-purpose,
I
mean
the
message
does
say
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance,
but
it
is
also
getting
HOF
out
there.
So
if
someone
does
call
me
and
they
may
not
qualify
for
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance,
they
may
either
qualify
for
another.
You
are
a
program
or
I
can
tell
them
out
Hof
in
general,
as.
X
Etc,
yeah
so
I'll
touch
on
the
other
additional
outreach
that
I've
done,
but
I
have
been
canvassing
different.
Neighborhoods
I've
been
focusing
on
the
West
and
specifically
because
our
first
community
feedback
meeting
is
coming
up
next
week,
but
I
have
been
going
door-to-door
to
businesses
and
churches
and
other
organizations
and
then
also
partnering
with
other
community
leaders
to
pass
on
the
message
and
posting
it
in
their
communities
as
well.
J
X
Everything
is
online,
including
our
application
for
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance.
I
do
want
to
stress
so
that
the
application
must
be
filled
out
by
a
lender,
not
by
the
home
buyer,
so
the
home
buyer
should
be
pretty
far
along
in
the
process
or
far
enough
where
a
lender
is
involved.
I
have
gotten
a
lot
of
inquiries
about
whether
you
know
how
to
buy
a
home
or
starting
the
home
buying
process,
but
this
application
is
really
designed
to
to
assist
with
that
right
away.
X
G
X
R
We,
you
know
always
go
towards
churches
and
community
groups
and
when
we're
trying
to
get
the
word
out
there
and
I
mean
a
lot
of
times,
people
aren't
even
attending
church.
If
you've
noticed
some
of
our
churches
are
closing,
I
mean
there's
not
a
lot
of
attendance
in
some
of
those
places,
so
it
sometimes
I
wish
we
think
outside
the
box
and
let
associations
are
booming.
Bingos
are
booming.
You
know
senior
centers
different
places
that
we
could
think
outside
the
box.
X
Of
Teachers
as
well
to
help
push
out
our
message
they
to
employ
individuals
from
all
around
the
city
from
all
different
districts.
So
it's
not
just
focusing
on
these
community
groups.
It's
both
focusing
on
organizations
that
have
citywide
coverage
as
well,
and
a
majority
of
our
community
feedback
meetings
are
actually
hosted
at
senior
centers.
Unfortunately,.
R
L
Betina
to
the
to
the
point
of
the
lenders
being
the
ones
that
actually
felt
I
mean
just
for
everyone's
sort
of
benefit
and
the
public's
understanding
the
the
potential
homeowner
can
still
take
the
application
to
the
lender.
It's
not
that
we're
saying
sorry.
You
know
the
lender
needs
to
contact
us.
It's
here's!
The
application.
X
X
Those
who
don't
have
a
lender
yet
I
do
advise
and
I
do
send
them
a
copy
of
the
application
so
that
when
they
are
ready,
they
can
give
it
to
the
lender,
and
the
lenders
are
also
aware:
we've
been
in
meetings
with
the
bigger
banks
and
the
smaller
community
banks
as
well
that
they're
aware
of
our
program,
so
it's
coming
in
from
both
ends
either
from
the
bank
either
directly
from
an
individual
or
from
eat.
The
URA.
X
And
so
now,
I'll
talk
about
the
community
outreach
and
the
community
feedback
meeting,
so
I'll
be
hosting
a
series
of
community
feedback
meetings
to
get
feedback
from
the
for
the
2018
annual
allocation
plan,
as
well
as
feedback
to
help
guide
the
future
2019
annual
allocation
plan.
These
meetings
are
designed
to
be
interactive.
X
So
if
you
do
know
of
any
individuals
who
are
attending
any
of
these
meetings
that
may
require
that
service,
please
let
me
know-
and
we
will
be
happy
to
provide
that
at
the
appropriate
meeting.
Each
of
these
meetings
are
open
to
the
public.
There
are
from
6
to
7:30
and
again
I
really
encourage
everyone
to
spread
the
news
within
their
own
networks
as
well
to
come
to
these
meetings.
This
is
their
opportunity
to
have
the
feedback
that
will
go
in
front
of
the
Advisory
Board
to
help
guide
the
2019
allocation
plans.
X
B
X
M
H
Be
pretty
neat
as
a
way
to
engage
people
and
I
appreciate
that
we
have
staff,
because
it
makes
her
job
easier,
but
I
was
just
encourage
us
to
think
about
these
meetings.
As
you
know,
our
meetings,
not
necessarily
you
know
the
you-
are
a
department
meetings
or
patinas
meetings,
but
you
know
there
are
meetings
where
the
advisory
board.
You
know
that's
thinking
about
the
staff
there,
the
community's
meetings
they're
the
ones
that
help
push
this
legislation.
H
A
Okay,
we
skipped
G
review
of
expenses
to
date,
so
in
your
packet
find
mine,
there's
a
three-page
document
showing
the
commitments
to
date.
So
so
the
exciting
news
is
down
payment.
Closing
cost
assistance
will
have
the
first
closing
I
think
next
Friday
and
we
have
a
couple
others
in
the
pipeline
to
close
in
the
next
couple
weeks.
I
think
we're
gonna
get
to
a
point
pretty
quickly
that
that
the
URA
is
closing
two
or
three
these
a
week
and
might
even
speed
up.
B
I
P
X
You
know
all
these
success
stories
and
talking
about
as
the
HOF
programs
were
allowed,
really
emphasizing,
which
programs
have
been
awarded
and
all
those
things
we
are
working
to
ensure
that
we
capture
each
of
those
moments.
So
either
a
staff
member
or
a
member
will
be
out
there.
You
know,
during
the
closing
of
these
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance,
to
really
capture
that,
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
write
these
stories
either
in
an
in
a
report
or
down
the
line,
but
they
are
definitely
being
emphasized,
especially
since
this
is
HOA
ops
pilot
year.
L
There's
complimentary
pieces
to
that
right
that
we
push
out
either
through
social
media
through
press
releases,
etc.
And
then
you
know
we
are,
as
the
legislation
recall
you
know,
requires
there'll,
be
an
annual
report,
that'll
be
transmitted
to
Council
and
made
publicly
available
and
so
forth,
so
I
think
they'll,
hopefully,
as
we
do
that,
but
I
think
a
committees,
a
good
idea,
so
that
we
can
be
a
little
more
thoughtful
about
it.
So.
A
Yeah
and
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
you,
send
an
email
and
have
people
respond
to
me
if
they'd
like
to
be
on
that
committee
as
well.
Okay.
So
so
that's
the
down
payment
program
so
up
to
five
programs
that
one
is
up
and
running
the
housing
stabilization
program.
The
RFP
is
currently
on
the
street
is:
do
really
soon.
A
Does
anybody
know
the
due
date,
it's
doing
like
a
week,
I
think
the
nineteenth
might
be
the
19th
that
that's
the
RFP
for
social
service
providers
to
conduct
emergency
rental,
Assistance
Program,
we've
gotten
word
out
the
United
Way's
mailing
list,
Department
of
Human
Services
mailing
lists,
and
it's
on
the
you
are
a
website
but
feel
free
to
make
sure
you
know
people
that
you
know
that
would
be
interested
I'm
speaking
to
the
public.
You
know
as
aware
that
this
RFP
is
out
on
the
street.
So
that's
the
second
program.
A
The
third
program
is
the
rental
program,
which
is
the
first
sheet
in
front
of
you,
showing
the
the
commitments
to
date,
which
totals
well.
We
have
to
add
twenty
five
thousand
to
Oakland,
so
totals
a
little
over
one
point:
eight
million.
To
date,
with
about
two
million
remaining
and
the
rental
line
item,
the
next
page
just
shows
what
we
just
approved.
E
A
That's
a
good
question,
so
I'll
tell
you
what
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
phone
calls
on
this
kind
of
gets
to
Joanna's
comment
earlier,
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
preservation
phone
calls
building
similar
to
you
saw
today
that
need
you
know,
fire
systems
and
new
windows,
because
they've
been
operating
them
affordably
for
a
very
long
time
without
much
cash
flow.
We
weren't
really
envisioning
as
many
of
those
requests
as
we're
getting,
but
it's
it's
definitely
serving
a
need
in
the
city
to
preserve
these
assets
and
to
keep
them
affordable.
A
So
there
are
a
couple
of
those
that
people
have
told
us
they're
working
on
and
will
submit
there's
a
larger
new
construction
deal
that
has
submitted
an
application,
but
since
that
time,
as
financing
has
changed
pretty
drastically
so
that
is
has
been
held.
For
that
reason,
and
we
may
ask
them
to
resubmit
once
everything
is
in
place
for
that
project
and
there
are
a
couple
other
ones
that
I
have
heard
of
that
a
or
may
not
come
in
over
the
next
couple
months,
but.
E
E
A
So
that's
the
rental.
The
next
page
to
homeowner
assistance
program
is
what
we
just
approved
and
what
we
can
show
once
we
get
the
program
administrators
under
contract.
We
can
show
you
each
month
how
many
houses
you
know,
and
then
the
last
page
is
the
administrative
line-item
and
showing
expenses
out
of
this
line
item.
So
you
can
see
the
expenses
that
were
paid
started,
actually
paying
staff
costs
in
September.
A
We
had
been
incurring
staff
time
prior
to
that,
and
you
know
you
can
just
see
that
we
have
to
do
public
postings,
you
CH
RNA
advisors,
contract
on
their
pics
for
United's
contracts
on
their
their.
There
are
a
couple
2018
expenses
that
have
not
yet
been
paid,
such
as
the
marketing
the
marketing
cost
to
designed
the
billboards
will
be
coming,
the
rest
of
HR
and
a
advisors
contract
will
be
coming
as
well.
What.
E
A
J
A
C
M
L
B
L
What
was
budgeted
and
what
would
be
projected
that
we'll
need
to
discuss
you
know
from
the
board
and
then
hopefully
2020,
because
what
turn
right
back
around
once
we
finished
nineteen
to
work
on
2020.
But
if
that's
that
allocation
plans
approved
in
parallel
or
close
to
in
parallel
by
Council
as
the
2020
budget
would
be
then
we'll
be
on
a
sort
of
you
know:
January
1
to
December
31st
timing
aspect
of
it
all,
but
you
know,
as
with
sort
of
all
the
peccadilloes
were
uncovering
with
the
way
things
have
started.
H
L
T
T
H
P
A
H
C
T
M
K
I
A
H
K
H
P
S
S
B
A
R
H
K
H
T
Is
you
know,
is
the
the
ability
to
contract?
Maybe
we
need
to
think
about
a
slate
of
out
potential
outreach
partners
that
we
can
call
on
that.
Have
that
grassroots
emphasis
so
that
we're
making
sure
that
it's
being
equitable
and
that
people
who
are
doing
the
work
aren't
doing
it
at
their
own
cost?
I
mean
it
costs
something
to
go
out
and
do
this
and
it
shouldn't
be
volunteer
work
if
there's
resources,
but
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
appropriate
vehicle
to
do
that.
I.
Second.
S
R
S
R
R
Meetings
all
over
the
place
and
if
you
have
four
people,
show
up
that
actually
we're
the
same
four
people
attending
I
think
those
we
have
to
set
goals
like
this
is
where
we
want.
You
know
to
reach
end
I
want
to
be
honest,
organizing
smart
I
did
it
a
long
time
and
so
I
understand.
Sometimes
you
people
just
are
overwhelmed
with
the
information,
but
I
think
setting
some
criteria
would
be
helpful.
H
H
T
T
That,
because
we,
because
we
didn't
have
official
protocols
and
what
I'm
saying
now
is
that
there
are
official
protocols
and
I
would
caution
us
against
making
that
kind
of
decision
on
the
fly.
I
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
deliberative
and
think
about
an
image
sure
that
that
piece
of
it
is
equitable.
O
E
E
So
much
of
the
stuff
ad
hoc
because
of
the
timing,
but
the
one
thing
that
worked
really
well
having
gone
to
the
majority
of
those
community
meetings
on
input
last
time
around
was
the
turnout
at
those
meetings
it
was
diverse.
It
was
geographically
diverse.
It
wasn't
at
least
the
meetings
I
was
at
and
I
didn't
get
up
to
the
one
in
the
in
the
in
the
south
or
the
West
End,
but
every
other
one
that
I
was
at.
L
E
Sitting
down
at
tables
and
actually
blocking
the
folks
that
were
having
tangled
title
bra,
you
know
you
could
hear
what
those
issues
were
from
residents
of
the
city.
I
thought
it
was
a
great
process
and
I
would
hope
that
we
can
get
something
similar
going.
I'm,
not
sure
we're
gonna,
get
that
and
have
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure
how
these
are
being
organized.
So
I
worry
that
it's
gonna
be
sort
of
we're
talking
at
folks
and
not
really
getting
that
kind
of
feedback
at.
H
A
R
A
Mean
you
know,
and
so
so
so
there's
the
contracting
issue
and
everything
that
we
need
to
figure
out,
but
then
secondly,
there's
the
timing
issue
of
the
meetings
being
next
week.
Now
vitina
can
talk
about
where
all
she
papered
in
the
West
End
I
mean
we
are.
We
are
trying
to
be
very
inclusive
and
make
sure
you
know
we
get
to
a
wide
array,
picks
burg
residence.
So
she
could
talk
about
that
and
we
I
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
except
we
will
talk
quickly
because
our
meetings
are
next
week.
A
B
L
A
B
L
L
I
Think
we
we
work
with
their
organizations
before
there's
a
track
record.
You
know,
there's
a
trust
factor,
they've
put
into
work
and
we've
already
contracted
so
I
feel
like
they've,
already
kind
of
come
through
a
process
that
has
been
vetted.
What
the
what
would
it
look
like
and
there's
funds
specifically
in
this
budget
for
that
purpose?
So
what
would
it
look
like
to
vote?
I
guess
contingent
upon?
You
are
a
review.
P
A
We're
trying
to
adjust
it
right
now,
I
mean
just
a
logistical.
Just
just
a
logistical
thing
to
extend
the
contract
would
take
them
over
20,000,
which
means
they
would
have
to
go
to
the
you
are
a
board
and
jinda
is
already
in
the
works
for
February,
so
I
I.
Don't
think
that
could
be
a
possibility.
Just
logistically.
K
So
what
about
the
maker
of
the
motion?
Could
you
amend
your
motion
to
basically
ask
the
HOF
/
you
or
a
staff
to
pursue
and
explore
a
way
to
engage
the
to
engage
community
community
organizations
and
let
them
come
back
to
us
because
I
agree,
probably
an
extension
but
I
hear
where
you're
coming
from
there's
a
procurement
process.
T
T
T
Sure
that
we
can
be
effective
in
this
particular
engagement,
we
went
out
and
got
logos
made
and
I.
Don't
remember
that
coming
to
the
table
and
it's
probably
a
similar
cost,
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
speak
to
your
costs,
but
if
the
concern
is
value
and
the
data
that
will
come
out
of
this
I
think
that
takes
precedent
over
a
protracted
procurement
process.
That
would
be
nice.