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A
Okay,
good
morning,
everybody
welcome
to
the
august
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
board
meeting.
Thank
you
for
for
joining
us
via
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
youtube
channel.
As
is
customary
for
us,
we
will
be
starting
with
public
comment.
We
have
one
public
registered
public
commenter
alex
jackson,
please
go
ahead
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
get
public
comment.
B
B
B
Although
the
housing
opportunity
fund
has
documented
their
program
allocations
across
household
size
and
race,
there
has
seemingly
been
no
effort
to
tie
these
decisions
to
metrics
that
would
help
determine
their
effectiveness.
For
instance,
I
have
questions
on
what
data
you
do
or
do
not
have
on.
The
number
of
homeowners
who
receive
hsp
and
later
on,
would
need
those
services
again
of
other
financial
help
or
are
still
ultimately
being
evicted.
Is
there
any
follow-up
of
any
kind
with
these
hsp
homeowners
or
continued
support?
B
Effectiveness
should
be
tied
to
equality
of
outcomes
measured
over
time,
because
fair
housing
should
mean
fair
housing
outcomes
in
the
2019
report.
What
was
clear
to
me
is
that
most
black
residents
are
receiving
hsp,
but
not
the
vast
majority
of
funds
going
towards
down
payments
or
home
improvements,
which
is
instead
going
to
middle
class
white
residents,
and
there
is
no
clear
support
or
pathway
for
black
home
ownership
outlined.
B
We
must
ask
deeper
questions
about
how
this
program
can
help
black
residents
in
the
city
own
and
improve
their
homes
and
not
simply
avoid
being
removed
from
them
on
a
short-term
basis,
and
I
urge
this
advisory
board
to
link
those
questions
with
meaningful
data
collection
and
analysis
to
see
what
is
working
and
what
is
not
when
it
comes
to
lessening
the
flow
of
black
residents
out
of
our
city.
Thank
you
for
your
time,.
A
Thank
you,
mr
jackson,
and
you
know
later
in
the
meeting,
you
will
see
an
update
on
our
public
report,
which
is
accessible
online.
Our
annual
report
that
does
have
demographic
and
a
lot
of
this
information
that
was
requested.
A
Okay,
moving
on,
let's
call
roll.
C
A
Jerome
jackson-
not
here
ethel
johnson,
not
here
teresa
carol
smith-
not
here,
majestic
lane,
not
here,
mark
masterson.
D
A
Adrian
wannahal
present
kelly
ware,
sebrun
and
megan
winters
present.
Okay,
we
have
eight.
We
need
nine
for
quorum,
we'll
be
moving
on
to
get
a
presentation
from
the
fair
housing,
our
fair
housing
partners
and
after
the
presentation
we
will
check
to
see.
Then
if
we
have
a
quorum,
so
I
would
like
to
pass
it
over
to
jay
doran,
with
hud
and
megan
conferred
hammond
with
the
fair
housing
partnership.
To
give
us
a
brief
presentation
on
fair
housing.
F
Thank
you
jessica.
Let
me
get
the
screen
sharing
here
with
our.
F
F
As
far
as
the
differentiation
between
affordable
housing
and
fair
housing
as
a
means
of
understanding
that
simply
providing
affordable
housing
within
the
same
framework
of
typical
development
results
in
maintaining
and
or
worsening,
the
pre-existing
inequities
that
exist
in
our
modern
day
society
and
then
specifically
here
in
pittsburgh.
So
to
just
get
the
basics
out
for
a
quick
second
on
the
fhp
side
is
that
we
are
the
fair
housing
initiative
program
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
F
We
are,
we
have
been
in
place
since
1984,
spinning
out
of
the
urban
league,
and
recently
I
have
been
made
the
interim
executive
director
following
my
start
at
shp
in
2009
and
as
you
will
see,
that
jade
warren,
who
was
with
fhp
for
nearly
20
years,
is
now
at
hud
fho,
so
fhp's
sole
mission
enroll
as
we
have
made
changes
throughout
the
years,
is
fair
housing,
advocacy
and
fair
housing
work.
F
Let
me
see
here
about
here.
We
go
and
then
to
introduce
jay
who
needs
no
introduction,
but
simply
as
a
means
of
introducing
jay
in
his
new
hud
role,
as
you
are
aware
that
the
pittsburgh
hud
fheo
office,
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equal
opportunity
which
administers
and
oversees
a
fair
housing
initiative
programs-
and
that
includes
fhp
and
other
programmatic
work
on
fair
housing.
Equal
opportunity
has
been
empty.
F
In
fact,
in
these
recent
years
and
filling
that
office
has
begun,
with
jay
dorn
being
the
head
of
the
pittsburgh
hud
fho
field
office,
and
there
is
a
process
now
in
place
to
bring
on
additional
supportive
staff.
So
we
will
have
that
hud
presence
after
a
few
years,
without
it
directly
in
downtown
pittsburgh
and
local
in
pittsburgh
as
we're
all
in
the
virtual
and
remote
space
jay.
Is
there
anything
you
would
like
to
say.
G
Well,
hello
to
everybody:
it's
it's
interesting
to
have
to
see
you
in
a
new
space.
Quite
frankly
when
we
had
talked
for
quite
some
time
with
with
you
all
about
doing
a
presentation,
I
was
sitting
in
a
different
seat,
and
so
now
I
really
as
as
the
kind
of
the
fheo
pittsburgh
hud
rep.
You
know.
G
Obviously
I
want
to
see
a
a
productive
relationship
where
we're
able
to
really
further
fair
housing
in
the
region
and
so
knowing
fhp
the
way
that
that
I
always
have
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that
megan
is
is
here
to
speak
with
you
all,
and
I
think
that
if
you
continue
to
have
a
productive
relationship,
that
fhp
as
our
fit
partner
can
can
really
help
work
with
you
all
to
to
find
a
better,
a
better
path
to
fair
housing
for
all
I'll
leave
it
there
and
then
I'll
kind
of
ride
along
for
most
of
this,
and
I
interject
only
when
I,
when
I
feel
necessary.
H
F
Jay,
so
to
go
through
a
five-minute
version
on
what
the
civil
rights
legislation
and
fair
housing
laws
are
simply
understand
that
civil
rights
in
the
united
states
began
with
the
civil
rights
act
of
1866
at
the
end
of
slavery.
F
The
fair
housing
act
as
title
8
of
the
civil
rights
act
was
enacted
in
1968,
and
the
last
federal
amendments
to
the
fair
housing
act
was
added
federally
in
1988
in
that
context,
simply
recognized
that
the
civil
rights
act
of
1866
remains
vibrant
and
in
use
as
you
look
at
the
fact
that
it
has
no
exemptions
for
any
racial
discrimination
in
any
contract
in
the
united
states
whatsoever.
F
To
reiterate,
as
the
fair
housing
act
as
a
means
of
housing,
discrimination
requires
that
there
is
a
protected
class,
that's
legally
defined
as
a
basis
for
which
housing
discrimination
cannot
occur
and
so
federally.
We
have
race,
color,
national
origin,
religion,
sex
and
then
familial
status,
which
is
both
pregnancy
and
the
presence
of
minor
age.
Children
as
well
as
disability.
F
I
will
point
out,
especially
in
this
context
of
providing
19,
is
that
when
disability
was
enacted
in
1988,
it
was
specifically
within
the
definition
of
a
law
to
include
hiv
and
aids
status
as
a
means
of
understanding,
housing
providers
making
factual-based
determinations
and
not
using
widespread
terms
such
or
over
broad
terms,
such
as
infection
and
contagion
as
a
means
of
making
determinations
based
off
emotion,
but
not
the
facts
of
having
hiv
or
an
aid
status.
F
And
I
say
that
specifically
because
we
are
seeing
such
language
and
such
concerns
arising
in
the
colvin
19
space
and
working
to
make
sure
that
the
facts
are
out
there
for
housing
providers
and
landlords
to
make
determinations
based
on
facts
and
science
and
not
stereotypes
and
concerns
that
are
unfounded.
F
Additionally,
disability
within
the
fair
housing
act
includes
provisions
for
the
status
of
being
in
recovery,
no
longer
abusing
substances
such
as
alcohol
or
drugs,
so
the
fair
housing
act
and
the
concept
of
housing
discrimination
simply
and
and
simply
to
I
forgot
it's
a
forgiving
at
an
evening
slide
evening,
event
last
night,
simply
to
reiterate
on
the
protected
classes.
I'm
proud
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
also
explicitly
includes
sexual
orientation,
gender
identity,
status
of
a
survivor,
domestic
violence
and
during
the
pandemics,
no
less.
F
The
city
has
passed
citizenship
status
as
well
as
language
use
and
language
spoken
as
protected
classes
that
are
specifically
protected
within
the
boundary
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
F
To
again
reiterate,
you
know
the
concepts
that
are
within
the
fair
housing
act
as
a
means
of
what
housing
discrimination
consists
of
and
so
on.
That
is
that
we
have
both
treatment
where
we
are
looking
at
the
specifics
of
that.
A
disparate
treatment
is
a
protected
class
with
an
act
of
harm
as
it
relates
to
the
housing
and
the
protected
class.
F
So
that
is
a
nexus
in
between
that
the
identity
of
the
person,
as
well
as
the
act
of
harm
such
as
eviction
or
different
terms
or
different
treatment
as
it
relates
to
housing.
F
Disparate
impact
is
looking
at
that
the
rule
is
not
explicitly
regarding
a
protected
class,
but
is
regarding
the
fact
that
that
the
rule
would
disproportionately
impact
a
protected
class.
So
to
that
means
the
common
example
and
impact
in
2020
has
been
that
if
a
housing
provider
has
a
overreaching
and
overly
broad
criminal
history
policy,
that
says,
despite
any
arrests,
convictions,
misdemeanor
felony,
I
don't
care
what,
but
any
criminal
history
whatsoever
is
precluding
access
and
allowance
into
being
accepted
as
a
tenant.
F
Then
that
will
result
in
because
of
the
nature
that
our
criminal
justice
system
disproportionately
arrest
and
convict
black
and
brown
americans
that
that
housing
will
be
predominantly
and
overwhelmingly
and
disproportionately
white
because
of
a
overly
broad
policy
that
has
a
disparate
impact
based
on
race,
national
origin
and
disability
as
well
jay
before
I
go
into
the
equity
lens,
is
there
anything
you
wanted
to
speak
to
on
the
act
itself
and
the
definitions
and
protected
classes?
Now.
F
So
to
dive
into
the
concepts
of
what
the
pre-existing
inequities
are
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
the
housing
opportunity
fund
is
a
fantastic
program
designed
to
put
that
affordable
housing.
That
we
know
is
necessary
that
we
know
is
needed
and
that
serves
pittsburgh
as
a
means
of
maintaining
socio-economic
diversity.
F
But
there's
another
lens,
that's
absolutely
necessary
and
critical,
and
that
is
recognizing
the
pre-existing
inequities.
The
rising
tide
does
not
lift
all
votes.
We
have
decades
of
proof
and
studies.
Looking
at
the
fact
that
straightforward
addresses
to
poverty
and
to
a
lack
of
economics
does
not
assist
everybody
equally,
but
it
maintains
the
pre-existing
inequities
that
we
already
have
as
a
society
and
as
a
city.
F
So
simply
to
underscore
that
point
and
to
point
it
out,
and
the
biggest
example
of
that
that
we
have
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh
is
last
september's
inequity
across
race
and
gender
study,
which
quantified,
which
we
all
understood.
We
all
already
knew
is
that
black
pittsburgh
is
suffering
at
higher
rates.
F
So
what
that
means
in
a
fair
housing
analysis
and
a
concept
of
looking
at
how
affordable
housing
intersects
with
fair
housing
and
equity,
to
lay
it
out.
This
is
a
repetitive
structure
that
says
we
have
to
have
data.
We
have
to
have
an
understanding
of
how
housing
itself,
as
well
as
housing
programs.
F
However,
they
are
impacting
the
city
with
the
protected
classes,
who
are
they
serving?
What
are
the
demographics
of
those
that
are
served?
What
are
the
status
or
the
protected
classes
of
those
that
are
served?
Where
is
the
housing?
How
does
the
housing
intersect
with
pre-existing
racial
segregation,
with
pre-existing
lack
of
access
for
families
with
children,
with
pre-existing
concerns
and
a
lack
of
accessible
housing?
The
data
on
the
upfront
space
is
not
a
matter
of
critique,
but
it's
a
matter
of
understanding
the
impact
so
as
to
make
a
decision
that
is
informative
and
based
on
data.
F
That
can
say
here
are
our
clear
attempts
and
action
items
that
are
meant
to
address
what
the
data
has
shown
to
be
a
concern.
So,
in
short,
it
is
the
collection
of
the
data
on
an
upfront
way
as
a
means
to
understand
what
is
occurring
the
same
way
that
the
september
2019
inequity
in
the
inequality
study
explained
what
we
already
knew.
But
the
data
gives
us
a
point
of
power
in
order
to
say
now.
F
What
do
we
do
to
fix
it,
and
that
is
the
same
analysis
that
we're
using
in
housing
collect
the
data
conduct
an
analysis
of
that
data,
specifically
based
on
the
protected
classes,
create
actions
create
a
plan,
create
concrete
ways
to
address
it,
not
that
those
action
items
will
be
singularly
successful
within
a
year's
time.
Not
that
those
action
items
are
the
only
thing
possible.
There
are
limited
time
and
limited
budget,
but
that
the
action
items
are
informative
and
data
driven
and
then,
after
the
action
items
are
implemented,
the
outcomes
are
made.
F
That
can
then
look
back
and
make
a
true
assessment
and
understanding
of
what
the
impact
of
those
decisions
were
in
order
to
then
repeat
the
process
for
the
next
round
of
funding.
It's
not
meant
to
be
critical.
It's
meant
to
be
informative
and
data
driven
as
a
means
of
making
concrete
deliberative
steps
to
address
both
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
as
well
as
concrete
and
deliberative
steps
for
fair
housing
for
equity.
F
To
explain
that
a
bit
further
is
to
understand
that
affordable
housing-
and
we
have
a
couple
of
slides
on
this,
just
to
explain
it
in
a
couple
different
ways,
because
there
has
been
a
national
conversation
that
is
getting
this
wrong
with
an
understanding
of
affordable
and
fair
housing.
Affordable
housing
addresses
housing
based
on
income.
There
are
impoverished
groups
of
people
across
all
protected
classes,
fair
housing
from
the
1960s,
with
the
kerner
commission's
report
to
pittsburgh
september
2019.
F
Inequality
report
to
numerous
other
sets
of
data
shows
that
systemic
and
historic
discrimination
has
resulted
in
an
additional
lack
of
access
on
top
of
socioeconomic
need
for
the
protected
classes
and
so
affordable
housing
and
fair
housing
are
separate,
but
overlaid
and
intersect
intersect
with
each
other,
and
when
you
make
an
equity
approach.
So
the
formation
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund,
already
by
its
very
nature
and
definition
of
the
legislation,
addresses
affordable
housing
so
to
apply
an
equity
lens
to
that
decision.
F
Making
is
to
address
that
if
we
don't
change
the
way
that
we
approach
the
development,
if
we
don't
change
the
frameworks
that
we
use
in
order
to
make
development
and
programmatic
decisions
based
on
equity,
based
on
the
protected
classes,
we
will
continue
to
perpetuate
what
already
exists
or
even
worse,
will
deepen
those
pre-existing
inequities.
For
example
in
pittsburgh.
F
What
is
extremely
clear
amongst
a
series
of
inequities
is
the
level
of
racial
segregation
that
our
city
has
amongst
its
housing
from
not
only
neighborhood
to
neighborhood
but
street
to
street,
and
so
the
critical
aspect
of
this
is
to
make
sure
that
the
decision
making
coming
out
of
the
hos
puts
a
layer
of
equity
lens
to
its
decision,
making
atop
the
affordable
housing
decision-making
structure
so
to
again
in
and
embody
what
that
means
to
understand
the
50
years
that
we
have
gone
through
since
the
civil
rights
movement
in
the
60s
that
culminated
after
102
years
of
oppression
at
the
end
of
slavery
is
to
understand
what
happened
between
1963
and
1968.
F
Now
I
can
spend
all
day
talking
about
this.
I
certainly
can't
hear
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
it
with
anyone
further,
but
to
understand.
63
to
68
is
imperative,
and
I
say
that
because
lyndon
b
johnson
was
president
and
he
passed
both
the
war
on
poverty
and
the
great
society,
and
he
said
he
specifically
argued
with
civil
rights
leaders
in
the
early
60s
that
the
rising
tide
does
lift
all
votes.
F
F
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
city
has
identified
to
the
fair
housing
partnership
repeatedly
that
the
hos
is
a
key
vehicle
for
addressing
historic
and
systemic
inequity,
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
has
conveyed
in
communications
repeatedly
and
often
that
it
expects
that
the
host
addresses
its
fair
housing
concerns
by
its
work,
and
so
in
order
for
that
to
happen,
I
am
here
to
talk
about
understanding
what
that
equity
lens
is.
So
I
will
reiterate
this
several
times,
but
simply
understand
that
equity
is
two-pronged.
F
F
Neighborhoods
that
have
been
traditionally
unavailable
because
of
this
policy
making
to
black
pittsburgh,
open,
welcoming
and
inclusive
simply
the
creation
of
housing
and
say
a
squirrel
hill
or
a
shady
side
or
a
highland
park,
which
is
a
crucial
first
step,
doesn't
make
it
welcoming
and
accommodating
and
a
place
that
black
and
brown
pittsburgh
want
to
live
because
of
the
oppression
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
knowledge
of
what
may
happen
in
a
historically
walled
off
section
of
pittsburgh.
F
So
to
look
at
what
we
have
and
to
understand
it,
and
again,
this
is
meant
as
an
example
to
help
push
us
forward
all
in
our
shared
goal.
So
I
understand-
and
I
review
the
2019
hos
annual
report-
and
this
is
the
page
that
I
found
that
included
the
demographic
data.
The
demographic
data
included
in
the
report
speaks
to
the
race
of
the
household
served
within
the
hos
programs,
and
it
also
shows
per
district.
F
The
number
of
households
served
per
district
within
each
of
the
hof
programs,
so
to
break
down
a
what
is
needed
in
additional
data
and
b
what
we
can
look
at
as
a
means
of
what
do
we
do
with
the
data?
The
data
is
the
first
step.
How
do
we
apply
that
equity
lens
in
order
to
inform
our
decision
making
of
the
programs
themselves
so
to
walk
us
through?
F
Now,
looking
at
that
race-based
data,
I
will
tell
you
I
don't
want
to
get
stuck
on
this
concept
of
what
it
is
that
we're
missing,
but
based
on
this
data
alone,
the
biggest
foremost
question
that
comes
up
right
now
is:
where
is
brown
pittsburgh?
I
understand
that
brown
pittsburgh
is
a
small
demographic
proportion,
but
especially
in
2020
brown.
Pittsburgh
has
a
very
big
impact
on
hos
programming,
especially
the
housing
stabilization
program
because
of
the
rate
and
the
severity
that
brown
pittsburgh
is
impacted
by
the
coven
19
pandemic.
F
In
this
situation,
I
am
looking
at
hud
region,
hud
region,
three,
given
our
hud
representative
here,
given
our
hud
language
in
terms
of
what
it
means
in
pittsburgh
to
be
in
the
shared
hud
region
that
we
live
in,
so
simply
recognize
that
in
hud
region,
three,
it
includes
pennsylvania,
virginia
west,
virginia,
maryland,
delaware
and
d.c.
So
to
compare
those
other
states
in
d.c
to
pittsburgh,
we're
gonna
look
at
home
ownership,
so
in
homeownership,
based
on
the
2018
census.
F
And
so
I
say
that
to
look
at
nationally.
44
of
black
families
are
homeowners
compared
to
73.7
of
white
families.
That's
the
national
trend,
but
then,
when
we
look
at
that
national
trend
and
context
of
region,
three
pittsburgh
is
the
only
metro
area
that
goes
below
that
nationwide
trend
and
not
simply
below
the
nationwide
trend
below
dramatically
philadelphia.
Baltimore
dc
and
virginia
delaware
and
west
virginia
weren't,
large
enough
metropolitan
to
be
included
in
the
study
has
markedly
higher
black
home
ownership
rates
and
even
slightly
higher
white
homeownership
rates.
F
F
So
then,
to
continue
looking
at
the
concept
of
homeownership
disparity
that
the
racial
disparity
is
29.7
percent
across
the
country
as
a
national
trend
and
again
in
pittsburgh,
it
is
the
highest
the
disparity
between
black
and
black
black
and
white
pittsburgh
and
home
ownership
is
the
highest
in
region
3.
By
far
the
only
other
metropolitan
that
even
goes
over
30
percent,
with
the
racial
disparity
and
home
ownership
in
baltimore,
and
still
that
seven
percent
less
than
pittsburgh's
nearly
40
percent
racial
disparity
between
black
and
white
homeownership
in
the
city.
F
So
then
we
look
at
what
we're
doing
with
the
hos
in
order
to
address
the
overall
economic
need
for
homeownership.
So,
for
example,
using
the
data
provided
in
the
final
audit
report
for
2019,
we
can
see
that
the
down
payment
and
closing
cost
assistance
program
is
nearly
half
of
the
hof
budget
at
a
little
over
400
000.
And
so
what
happens?
F
Is
the
data
shows
that,
based
on
race
out
of
65
households
served,
we
have
pretty
much
a
one-to-one
of
black
and
white
households
served
within
the
home
ownership
program,
and
so
the
data
is
extremely
helpful
to
understand
that
the
one-to-one
is
a
good
place
to
start.
It
is
a
positive
place
to
start,
but
in
order
to
address
this
severe
massive
disparities
that
the
data
shows
us
to
exist,
we
want
to
be
at
a
place
where
we
can
set
a
goal.
We
can
set
an
informative
goal.
F
That
says
one
to
one
isn't
good
enough:
we
need
three,
or
actually
we
need
a
four
to
one
demographic
ratio.
That's
gonna
inform
our
marketing.
That's
gonna
inform
our
outreach
in
order
to
bring
black
pittsburgh
into
this
program
in
order
to
restore
the
black
wealth
that
our
own
systems
have
taken
away
now.
The
data
I
understand
it
is
going
to
always
be
reported
based
on
district,
and
I
will
say
that
without
additional
data,
so
reporting
it
based
on
district.
F
All
I
could
do
was
extrapolate
racial
data,
district-wide,
and
so
what's
so
crucial
about
reporting
by
district
is
that
that
data
includes
the
racial
breakdown
of
the
applicant
served
in
each
district.
So,
for
example,
in
district
four,
where
we
have
close
to
a
nine
percent
roughly
black
alone
population-
and
there
is
a
decent
quarter
of
all
households
served
it's
just
white
pittsburgh
buying
homes
in
white
areas.
F
Similarly,
in
district
12,
it
says
black
pittsburgh
blind
homes
and
predominantly
black
areas,
not
that
that's
a
negative
or
problematic,
but
what
it
does
by
understanding
that
data
is
to
add
layers
that
says
now
that
we're
providing
home
ownership
and
equity
amongst
pittsburgh
residents
and
owning
their
own
homes
and
land.
What
can
we
do
with
our
marketing
with
their
outreach
with
our
understanding
in
order
to
help
integrate
in
order
to
help
make
district
12,
welcoming
and
open
to
white
pittsburgh
and
what's
crucial?
F
District
12
doesn't
not
simply
be
open
to
white
pittsburgh,
but
district
14
needs
to
be
open
to
black
pittsburgh.
We
need
to
do
both
sides
of
the
equation.
We
can't
simply
displace
black
pittsburgh.
The
point
is
to
open
up
pittsburgh
for
all
of
us
in
order
to
truly
integrate
and
be
inclusive,
so
that
goes
into
a
couple
of
facts.
F
Looking
at
outside
of
district-wide
information,
where,
in
the
city
are
these
households
served,
we
need
to
understand
specifically
based
on
racial
segregation,
how
we
are
seeing
homeownership
overlay
with
the
racial
segregation
that
we
know
exists
in
the
city
simply
as
a
data
set
for
those
of
you
who
might
have
seen
this
before.
F
This
has
been
updated
with
the
2014-2018
acs
estimates,
as
it
was
previously
the
last
set
of
estimates,
but
knowing
that
pittsburgh
is
so
racially
segregated
that
if
we
go
to
point
breeze
and
we
cross
penn
avenue
depending
on
what
side
of
penn
avenue
we
are
on,
we
have
a
30
differential
of
the
racial
demographic
penn
avenue,
depending
on
what
side
of
the
street
you're
standing
on
in
point.
Breeze
is
either
36
black
or
5.6
black.
F
That
is
an
embodiment
of
how
severe
our
racial
segregation
is
neighborhood
and
neighborhood
and
street
by
street,
so
to
then
overlay
the
fair
housing
analysis.
What
we
can
show
is
that
mapping
of
plotting
the
addresses
plotting
the
locations,
not
to
a
point
that
someone
can
see
the
addresses,
but
that
we
can
understand
it
from
a
sense
of
mapping
the
dots
and
the
locations
of
where,
in
those
districts,
those
households
bought
homes
differentiated
by
the
household
race.
Overlaid
with
the
city's
demographic
data
gives
us
the
information
and
data
to
analyze
it
to
understand
it.
F
To
then
inform
how
we're
running
the
program
in
a
way
that
doesn't
only
address
economic
needs,
but
it
addresses
an
equity
need,
because
we
know
that
the
equity
lens
is
critical
for
pittsburgh
to
be
a
modern
city
that
is
addressing
the
history
of
segregation
and
inequity
that
we
come
from
and
so
simply
a
touch
on
as
another
quick
example.
I
know
I'm
running
short
on
time
again.
I
can
talk
about
this
at
length
with
anyone
who's
interested
to
do
so,
but
the
housing
stabilization
program
simply
to
understand
it
based
on
the
2019
audit
report.
F
But
to
understand
that
data,
we
look
at
the
fact
that
in
2019
the
administration
of
that
program
was
solely
done
by
the
urban
league
of
greater
pittsburgh,
and
so
2020
will
inherently
be
drastically
different
in
understanding
the
households
and
demographics
served,
which
is
critical
and
important,
and
also
we're
going
to
have
as
11
or
12
administrators
of
the
program
now
and
so
understanding
how
to
inform
each
administrator
of
their
reach
and
the
success
with
who
we
are
reaching
in
pittsburgh
is
to
understand
and
be
able
to
make
that
equity
lens
we've
been
discussing
each
time
in
order
to
inform
whether
or
not
we
are
getting
those
hsp
funds,
especially
in
the
wake
of
cobin
19
to
the
most
vulnerable,
which
are
not
only
are
we
all
suffering
economically,
but
the
protected
classes
and
the
historically
disenfranchised
suffer
more
and
so
understanding.
F
The
impact
of
that
with
the
new
structure
of
the
program
will
be
critical
in
doing
an
assessment
in
the
next
year.
I
will
also
say
simply
as
a
side
note
with
the
culture
of
pittsburgh
is
that
I
have
heard
callers
when
they're
referred
to
the
urban
league
for
the
hsp
program.
In
the
past,
pre-pandemic
have
been
concerned
or
confused
as
far
as
whether
white
pittsburgh
or
non-black
pittsburgh
can
assess
the
urban
league,
and
so
certainly
in
2020.
F
Funds,
so
simply
to
reiterate
it,
as
I
can't
reiterate
it
enough-
is
the
understanding
that
understanding
the
hos
programs,
with
an
equity
lens
to
both
invest
in
majority
black
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
to
make
neighborhoods
available
that
historically
have
been
unavailable
to
black
pittsburgh
is
crucial.
It
is
truly
the
application
of
a
fair
housing
lens
to
the
hos
programs
and
to
the
hos
development
decisions
on
the
siting
and
development
of
housing
based
on
bedroom,
size,
accessibility
and
so
on.
F
Simply
as
a
bullet
list
to
understand
to
begin
a
larger,
fair
housing
conversation
on
top
of
racial
inequity,
we
can
look
at
the
fact
of
the
need
for
accessible
housing,
given
that
our
housing
stock
is
so
incredibly
old
that
physical
and
access,
the
physicality
of
it
is
largely
inaccessible,
city-wide.
The
limitations
of
housing
for
families
with
children
based
on
unit
sizes
available
and
based
on
ongoing
discrimination
that
fhp
continues
to
address.
F
Additionally,
given
both
the
protected
class
of
sex
and
the
city's
protection
for
survivors
of
domestic
violence
is
to
understand
the
impact
of
housing
and
how
it
relates
to
survivors
of
domestic
violence
and
the
need
to
make
sure
that
survivors
of
domestic
violence
are
being
served
by
the
housing
market
for
safe
housing
for
themselves
and
their
family,
which
brings
us
to
questions
and
understands
apologize.
F
If
I
went
out
of
time,
I'm
trying
to
monitor
the
virtual
space
as
much
as
possible
and
then
jay,
if
you
have
any
other
words
and
additional
noise,
but
quickly.
G
Nowhere
to
show
so,
first
of
all
before
we
go
to
questions
wonderful
presentation
from
from
hunts
aspect,
let
me
say
that
now
it's
really
fun
to
say
that
I
will.
I
will
just
point
out
that
initially
one
of
the
points
that
you
made,
I
think
we've
worked
with
the
hof
and
you
know
over
the
year
you
know,
previous
years
to
start
the
process
of
really
accurately
collecting
data.
We
brought
up
a
good
point
about
making
sure
we
have
enough
data.
G
G
We
need
to
see
a
space
in
which
we're
not
just
collecting
data
but
we're
using
that
with
an
analysis
to
inform
our
decisions
on
the
programs
that
we're
running.
I
think
that's
that's
the
space
looking
forward,
but
wonderful
presentation,
and
I
will
turn
this
question.
A
Thank
you
megan
and
jay,
so
much
for
for
this
presentation.
It's
very
timely
based
on
some
nationwide
news.
You
know
that
has
happened
the
last
week
regarding
fair
housing
and
affordable
housing.
Additionally,
you
know
the
thank
you
also
for
for
shining
the
light
on
the
racial
disparities.
A
Disparity
amongst
home
ownership
in
the
city
and
anne
from
the
cmu
create
lab,
also
highlighted
this
a
month
ago,
and
some
of
you
probably
saw
the
nationwide
news.
A
Nbc
news
ran
an
article
earlier
this
week
that
listed
pittsburgh
as
the
fifth
worst
city
for
the
racial
disparity
in
homeownership,
and
that
is
something
you
know
that
we
all
really
want
to
strive
to
to
fix,
and
I
can
say
that
from
the
ura
side
in
the
last
few
months,
we've
already
started
to
talk
about
this
topic
a
lot
and
about
how
to
to
provide
outreach
regarding
homeownership
in
african-american,
black
and
brown
communities.
A
I
It's
not
a
question
as
much
as
a
charge
to
the
hof
as
we
start
to
plan
for
the
next
allocation
round.
I
think
it's
critical
for
us
to
put
these
lenses
front
and
center
we've
had
very
tight
timelines
each
year
for
the
allocations,
which
I
think
has
pushed
us
to
decision
making
that
may
not
have
been
as
targeted
or
guided
as
it
could
be
so
to
take
the
opportunity,
as
we
move
into
this
next
round,
to
do
more
education
related
to
these
disparities
related
to
our
conversations
about
geographies,
to
really
think
through
an
appointed
way.
I
I
Something
that
may
be
really
timely
and
appropriate
for
us
to
do
right
now
is
to
try
to
before
the
allocation
meeting
have
a
session
to
really
talk
about
strategies
to
further
fair
housing
that
four
to
one
ratio.
That
was
spoken
about
really
resonated
with
me.
I
So
thinking
about
how
we
could
take
some
of
those
lenses,
thought
patterns
and
apply
them
early
in
our
thinking
and
set
our
priorities
so
that,
when
we're
looking
at
the
allocation
plan,
we
have
that
mindset
of
what
we
want
to
accomplish,
not
only
from
a
housing
units
perspective
or
a
people-served
perspective,
but
how
we're
really
changing
the
landscape
of
housing
and
economic
equity
in
pittsburgh.
A
Yeah
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
we're
actually
going
to
talk
about
our
schedule
for
the
2021
allocation
plan.
So
we
should
pencil
that
into
this
to
this
schedule
to
be
able
to
allocate
ourselves
enough
time
to
do
that.
I
Wonderful
and
thank
you
again,
that
was
a
really
powerful
presentation.
I
think
it
was
timely
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
again
as
we
go
forward,
if
we
think
about
in
every
meeting,
these
meetings
are
so
congested.
But
is
there
a
way
in
every
meeting
that
we
can
really
set
aside
time
to
again
think
about
these
larger
lenses
and
impact
so
that
we
really
have
the
bigger
picture
in
mind
each
time
we're
having
a
conversation?
J
I
have
a
question
as
well.
First
of
all,
thank
you
megan
jay.
For
that
amazing
presentation.
It
was
very
powerful
and
necessary.
So
you
talked
about
the
data,
as
you
talked
about
a
lot
of
data
assessing
it,
but
then
really
using
it
to
make
concrete,
deliberate
decisions.
So
my
question
is
really:
will
you
all
have
a
an
ongoing
engagement
as
as
we
move
to
the
next
phase?
For
actually
you
know
incorporating
this
into?
You
know
decisions
going
forward.
J
You
know,
of
course
we
have
more
thoughts,
but
I
think,
having
you
all
actually
give
some
input
and
in
those
decision
making
you
know,
policies
and
things
going
forward
will
be
critical.
So.
G
I
think
it's
fair
to
say,
as
you
know,
we
have
we
have
asked
for,
and
I
have
been
willing
to
to
have
that
role
for
some
time.
G
So
I
I
will
speak
on
behalf
of
the
fair
housing
partnership,
even
though
I'm
no
longer
at
the
fair
housing
partnership
and
say
I'm
comfortable,
saying
that
that
both
and
the
fair
housing
partnership
are
willing
to
commit
to
assisting
in
any
way
to
be
part
of
that
process
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
far
more
equitable
pittsburgh,
whether
that
means
going
to
and
participating
in
subcommittee
meetings,
whether
that
means
you
know
providing
expertise
and
knowledge
to
the
board
as
a
whole,
wherever
I
think
we
can
be
of
assistance.
G
This
is
why
we
have
been
continually
coming
here,
quite
frankly,
because
we
know
the
importance
of
this,
and
we
know
that.
Quite
you
know
many
of
you
know
the
importance
of
this
too.
So
we
are,
we
are
more
than
willing
to
to
provide
that
on
an
ongoing
level.
We
just
need
to
know
how
that's
going
to
work
out
how
we
participate.
That
way.
E
One
thing
that
I
would
like
to
add
again:
this
was
a
wonderful
presentation.
I
feel
educated
and
enlightened,
that
I
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
prepare
it
and
continuing
to
hold
this
advisory
board
accountable
to
affirmatively,
advancing
fair
housing,
and
so.
But
one
comment
that
I
did
want
to
make
about
the
slide
related
to
where
people
are
buying
homes
and
what
districts.
E
One
thing
that
I
do
want
to
know
from
a
qualitative
perspective
being
somebody
from
who's
from
the
hill
district
grew
up
in
the
hill
district,
and
when
I
had
an
opportunity
to
buy.
I
was
adamant
that
I
was
going
to
buy
in
the
hill
district
because
of
the
cultural
ties
and
what
that
neighborhood
means
to
me
now,
as
a
black
person,
I
could
have,
you
know,
moved
to
any
part
of
the
city.
E
You
know
that
I
wanted
to,
but
I
chose
to
stay
in
the
neighborhood
that
I
grew
up
in
because
that
was
important
to
me.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
looking
at
that
quantitative
measure
that
we're
also
understanding
from
a
qualitative
perspective,
people
want
to
buy
in
the
neighborhood
they're
already
in,
because
their
kids
are
there.
E
Their
networks
are
there,
and
so
I
do
think
that
the
work
of
this
advisory
board
is
to
help
people
buy
homes
in
the
neighborhoods
they're
in
we
know
that
pittsburgh
is
very
segregated,
so
that
may
mean
you
know
a
black
person
buying
it
buying
a
home
in
a
black
neighborhood.
But
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
see
that
as
a
systemic
failure.
E
I
think
we
can
also
look
at
that
as
a
win,
because
we
are
helping
people
as
neighborhoods
change
in
neighborhood
shift
actually
have
an
ownership
stake,
and
so
I
think,
if
you
unpack
some
of
that
data
around
where
the
down
payment
assistance
closing
costs
are
being
applied
to,
you
would
see
that
that
family
is
very
much
in
the
ownership
seat
around
where
they
want
to
live
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that,
as
a
note
and
again,
thank
you
for
the
very
thoughtful
dynamic
presentation
today.
G
G
One
is
about
housing
choice
and
so
that
people
are
made
aware
of
the
opportunities
and
the
other
is
about
investment
in
otherwise,
historically
disinvested
communities.
So
we
see
both
things.
It's
not
an
either
war.
It
is
a
we
invest
in
our
in
our
historically
black
under-invested
communities
and
we
provide
people
with
opportunity
to
look
at
areas
that
they've
been
traditionally
boxed
out
of
the
thing
for
us,
and
you
talk
about
when
we
talk
about
the
data
in
an
analysis
is
really
about
to
your
point.
Drilling
down.
G
Do
we
have
a
situation
in
which
a
majority
of
black
home
ownership
has
stayed
within
a
community
and
are
building
that
community
up?
You
know
which
is
ideal.
You
know.
Ultimately,
what
we'd
like
to
see
is
for
a
community
transition,
get
resources
into
that
community.
Allow
for
the
the
existing
membership
of
that
community
to
stay
as
it
excels
right
and
to
benefit,
as
as
investment
comes
into
that
community.
G
We're
not
interested
in
in
seeing
you
know.
Historically,
black
communities
get
a
ton
of
investment,
and
then
you
know
get
the
black
community
wiped
out
in
there.
You
know.
That's
not
helpful
to
our
purpose.
A
gentrification
in
that
term
is,
is
the
nasty
space
versus
the
kind
of
of
investment
and
allowing
for
black
community
members
to
to
become
homeowners.
G
The
question,
though,
in
terms
of
addressing
the
data,
is
looking
at
those
spaces
and
saying
okay.
So
what
are
you
know
if
you
see
a
line
that
says
the
white
area
has
stayed
overwhelmingly
white
and
the
black
area
stayed
overwhelmingly
black
right.
So
what
are
we
missing
in
this
right
is
it
is
there
is
a
benefit
to
integrated
neighborhoods
in
integrated
home
ownership
and
there's
a
benefit
for
everyone.
G
So,
as
megan
said
in
those
traditionally
black
neighborhoods,
we
want
to
see
investment
into
infrastructure
and
we
want
to
see
some
white
people
moving
into
those
neighborhoods
because
there's
value
in
those
white
folks
being
around
the
black
community,
just
like
there's
value
for
black
folks
being
around
predominantly
white
communities.
So
that's
that's
the
end
game
of
it.
It
does
require
a
drill
down
on
the
data
so
that
we
can
better
inform
how
we
how
we
use
our
policies
and
programs.
C
So
as
this
conversation
is
moving
into,
you
know
broader
topics
that
are
sometimes
outside
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund.
I
mean
this
was
an
important
presentation
and
I'm
thankful
for
that
that
megan
did
it
helped
to
contextualize.
You
know
the
disparities
and
to
hear
some
tangible
actions.
Very
often
we
get
into.
We
see
these
disparity
studies
and
we
just
become
disparate.
C
Looking
at
the
data
on
what
mortgages
are
mortgage
applications
in
black
neighborhoods
and
how
qualified
black
applicants
are
being
denied
mortgages
at
a
much
higher
rate
where
white
applicants
are
getting
loans
in
black
neighborhoods
and
you
know
she's
putting
that
data
together,
I
think
we
need
to
have
all
of
these
housing
conversations
at
some
point,
looking
at
the
big
picture
and
connecting
them
to
you
know
the
problems
that
we're
trying
to
solve
and
not
just
the
short.
C
You
know
the
immediate
work
that
the
housing
opportunity
funds
doing,
but
the
bigger
picture
of
housing
opportunities
across
the
region
in
neighborhoods
where
people
want
to
be
and
what
that
looks
like,
and
so
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
specific
question.
This
is
just
comment.
This
is
an
important
piece
to
the
conversation.
C
G
There's
a
point
to
you
know:
there's
a
comment
that
I'll
make
to
that
comment
in
this
space
that
both
hud
and
the
fair
housing
partnership
look
at
the
space
of
fair
lending.
That's
part
of
fair
housing.
It
is.
It
is
a
broader,
larger
space
that
we
have
to
work
in
and
the
reality
is,
as
you
saw
from
some
of
those
some
of
those
statistics,
especially
now
that
I've
moved
over
to
hud.
It
is
very
difficult.
G
You
know
to
have
a
conversation
about
pittsburgh
without
talking
about
the
fact
that
that
we
sit,
as
you
know,
the
greatest
disparities
in
in
the
region,
three
right,
which
is
which
is
our
our
hud
region.
So
I'm
talking
to
my
maryland
people
and
talking
to
my
philly
people
right
and
they're,
pointing
out
saying,
listen,
you
got
you
know.
You've
got
the
greater
issue
here,
and
so
we
need
to
look
at
all
of
those
things
in
order
to
address
these
disparities.
G
It's
not
it's
not
a
single
space
for
sure
we're
in
all
of
those
spaces,
and
so
we
certainly
welcome
anyone
who
would
like
to
have
that
conversation
with
us
with
megan
regularly.
G
Is
candid?
But
yes
we
do
we,
I
mean
listen.
I
I
was
I
come
out
of
detroit,
which
has
its
own
very
clear
racial
segregation,
and
I
thought
that
was
the
pinnacle
of
racial
segregation,
because
you
could
on
a
map,
it's
so
visual
because
we
go
by
mile
road
and
white
flight
followed
mile
roads
right.
So
I
thought
no
matter
where
I
move.
G
L
And
make
a
comment,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
our
speakers
again
and
I
think
it
was
echoing
what
everyone
said.
Some
next
steps.
If
we
could
talk
about,
I
know,
we've
talked
about
you,
know,
updating
our
criteria,
but
we've
also
been
anxious
to
get
more
funds
out
the
door,
but
you
know
adding.
L
This
is
explicit,
some
permanently
furthering
fair
housing
as
explicit
criteria
in
selecting
our
projects,
identifying
an
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
marketing
plan
for
our
program,
specifically
the
homeowner
program,
but
you
know
look
at
the
other
ones
as
well
and
then
just
one
last
request.
I
know
the
city
put
in
out
a
statement
regarding
you
know
the
recent
rule
change
at
hud
around
fair
house
furthering
fair
housing.
Is
that
something
that
the
ura
would
be
willing
to
do
as
well.
A
Yeah,
I
need
to
talk
with
our
you
know
with
with
others
at
the
ura,
but
but
I
do
expect
the
ura.
You
know
to
come
out
with
a
statement.
I
Where
there's
been
this
deeper
dive
taken
with
individuals,
specifically
more
of
a
focus
group
or
pointed
interviewings
key
informants
that
helps
us
set
the
narrative
for
that
deeper
dive.
Because,
if
we're
just
looking
at
that
macro
level
data,
I
think
we're
missing
a
lot
of
the
great
nuances
that
were
brought
up
by
folks.
Like
diamante.
I
You
know
how
do
we
really
not
lose
the
forest
for
the
trees,
and
so
if
there
is
any
more
of
that
more
micro
level
data,
I
I
would
love
personally
to
have
access
to
that,
and
I
think
if,
if
you
do
have
repositories
of
this
information,
I
feel
confident
that
jessica
and
the
ura
would
be
willing
to
and
happy
to
distribute
to
us
materials
that
we
could
dive
into
individually
and
then
bring
that
knowledge
base.
Back
to
the
conversation.
F
We
can
certainly
keep
talking
about
that,
and
certainly
you
understand
that
the
the
collection
of
data
itself
is
one
of
the
biggest
hurdles,
and
so
we're
certainly
willing
to
coordinate
and
collaborate
with
neighborhood
town
halls,
with
targeting
known,
fair
housing
concerns
in
neighborhoods
and
districts
or
the
the
focus
of
the
audience
there.
Simply
the
deliberative
thought
process
and
planning
and
coordinating
amongst
each
other.
To
do
so.
F
I
will
say
from
fhp's
perspective,
we're
in
the
process
of
implementing
a
database
that
allows
for
the
quick
drawdown
of
specific
data
as
a
means
of
targeting
presentations
to
your
point
and
that's
an
ongoing
process
we're
going
through
the
next
few
months,
and
so
there
isn't
anything
for
immediate
distribution,
but
certainly
we
can
just
continue
discussing.
You
know
what's
being
scheduled
where
we
can
be
effective
and
what
information
we
can
provide
that's
most
meaningful
and
that
speaks
to
that
specific
audience.
We'd
be
happy
to
do
so.
J
Also
or
or
you
are
able
to
share
this
presentation
with
the
with
the
board.
A
Make
it
up
all
you
know
if
you
want
to
give
it
to
me,
I
can
email
it
to
the
advisory
board.
It's
really
up
to
you.
A
Okay,
great
great,
okay.
Are
there
any
other
questions?
You
know
once
again,
just
thank
you
both
for
being
here
and
we
will
continue.
You
know
to
keep
in
touch
and
to
continue
the
working
relationship
that
we
have.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
on
the
voting
part
of
the
agenda,
and
since
since
we
took
role,
I
see
derek
tillman
and
sonya
tillman
have
both
joined,
so
we
do
now
have
a
quorum.
I
have,
however,
been
notified
by
a
couple
people
that
they
might
have
to
leave
early.
A
So
I
do
ask
staff
ura
staff
to
keep
their
presentations
here
very
short
for
the
next
few
voting
items.
We
will
start
with
e
the
homeowner
assistance
program.
This
is
to
increase
contracts
again.
Similarly,
to
what
we
did
last
month
before
jeremy
gives
a
very
quick
overview.
O
N
A
N
A
Is
that
joanna,
yes,
okay,
so
joanna
and
lena
both
exempt
out
of
this
category
go
ahead.
Jeremy.
A
Oh,
I'm
sorry
evan
just
reminded
me:
we
forgot
to
review
and
accept
a
minute.
Did
everybody
get
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes.
J
L
L
A
No
okay
motion
carries
thank
you.
Okay,
so
are
we
back
on
e
home
ownership
assistance
program?
Okay,
go
ahead,
jeremy.
N
N
All
of
these
awards
are
coming
out
of
the
2020
fund,
so
hilltop
alliance
rebuilding
together
pittsburgh
and
low
country
building
solutions
are
all
getting
their
third
increase
for
this
program.
Reason
that
we
are
coming
to
you
for
these
increases
is
that
they're
all
at
capacity
and
ready
to
take
on
more.
So
we
are
moving
at
a
very
good
pace
in
this
program
and
at
any
given
time
we
have
between
80
and
100
active
projects.
A
A
Okay
next
is
the
woodland
avenue
we
kind
of
broke
it
out
into
pieces,
but
basically
there
are
three
different.
Four
cell
development
program
requests.
The
first
one
is
bedford
avenue
and
it
is
a
pre-development
request,
followed
by
the
hazelwood
housing
initiative
and
then
woodland
avenue.
So
sarah
sarah
shore
is
a
relatively
new.
You
are
a
staff
member.
Can
you
please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
bedford,
avenue.
O
Sure,
good
morning,
everybody,
the
hill
cdc,
is
requesting
52
000
for
for
sale,
development
program,
pre-development
loan
in
order
to
finance
activities
related
to
six
affordable
for
sale,
single-family
homes
on
the
2700
block
of
bedford,
avenue.
The
black
consists
of
15
contiguous
town
homes,
as
you
can
see
on
the
map
here,
and
these
homes
are
built
in
1930
and
though
they've
survived
demolition
to
this
point,
they're
not
doing
very
well
right
now.
O
In
response,
the
hill
cdc
plans
to
renovate
six
of
these
homes
of
the
remaining
nine
homes
on
the
block
five
are
currently
occupied
and
are
being
affected
by
these
empty
and
dilapidated
structures.
The
hill
cdc
hopes
to
renovate
so,
as
I
mentioned,
they're
asking
for
52
000
in
pre-development
loans
to
use
for
design
development,
appraisals,
maintenance,
legal
cost,
financing
fees.
A
few
other
things.
O
Eventually,
the
project
is
going
to
involve
a
complete
interior
and
exterior
renovation
of
the
six
structures.
This
project,
as
right
now
as
it's
in
the
pre-development
state,
doesn't
have
a
general
contractor,
but
their
architect
will
be
winston
design.
In
addition
to
this
ura
funding
they're
going
to
use
their
own
equity
as
well
as
a
pnc
line
of
credit
to
finance
the
required
50
match
of
this
fsdp
pre-development
loan.
O
The
loan
is
going
to
have
zero
percent
interest
and
will
be
paid
at
time
of
closing
and
built
into
the
construction
financing
to
be
used
as
a
source
of
construction
expenses.
Ultimately,
these
two
bedroom
units
are
going
to
be
offered
to
households
at
or
below,
50
ami,
which
would
be
great
for
the
area
and
in
2017.
The
hill
stabilization
committee
examined
at-risk
properties
and
identified
this
block
as
one
section
that
they
really
wanted
to
work
on
in
the
neighborhood.
R
Just
really
excited
to
get
them
done
recently.
We
got
condemnation,
notices
on
them.
We've
also
applied
for
a
blight
remediation
grant,
hoping
to
get
these
as
soon
as
possible
under
construction
so
and
they
meet
all
the
targets
that
we
all
just
discussed
or
heard
over
the
last
year.
So
I'm
excited
about
it.
A
And
also
I
I
should
should
say
this:
one
is
similar
to
one
you
saw
last
month
with
the
phdc
where
it
is
for
pre-development,
so
it
will
have
a
10-year
affordability.
L
I
was
recusing
from
this
program
for
2020,
so
I'm
not
recusing.
D
A
N
H
I
have
no
idea
because
yeah,
which
which
are
all
of
these
projects
coming
out
of
2018.
R
One
one
other
thing
I'd
like
to
say
is:
this:
is
one
of
the
few
blocks
that
the
15
contiguous
remains
standing
and
when
you
look
at
the
devastation
over
time,
you
know
it's
really
worth
historically
saving
this,
you
know
as
an
impact
for
the
block.
It
would
be
really
hard
to
lose
any
of
these.
At
this
point,.
D
And
if
I
might
just
have
this
is
david
serbin
working
with
nancy
on
this?
This
is
a
while
that
we've
been
trying
to
do
this.
We
try
to
move
people,
often
from
renting
to
ownership.
A
lot
of
people
are
paying
rents
where
they
could
afford
to
pay
for
their
own
mortgage
for
their
own
house,
and
we
have
programs
for
that.
So
we
have
a
long
list
of
people
that
are
interested
in
moving
into
these
houses.
D
Yes,
we
do.
We
have
some
work
to
do
to
finalize
our
drawings,
though
we're
just
getting
these
funds
here
to
allow
our
architect
to
work
on
it
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
put
those
out
for
a
full
bid.
We've
gotten
estimates
of
them
to
this
point.
A
P
Sure
hi
good
morning,
everybody,
my
name,
is
evan
miller
with
the
housing
and
lending
unit
at
the
at
the
ura,
and
today
I'm
seeking
approval
for
a
150
000
for
sale,
development
program,
construction
loan
in
support
of
the
hazelwood,
affordable
home
ownership
program,
phase
3b
with
the
hazelwood
initiative.
P
So
h-o-h-o-p-h-a-h-o-p
there
is
an
established
program.
That's
been
run
by
hazelwood
for
a
few
years
where
they
aim
to
provide
deeply
affordable
for
sale,
housing
opportunities
to
long-time
renters
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
furthering
the
neighborhood's
overall
strategy
of
development.
Without
displacement
and
for
phase
three
of
this
program.
They
were
awarded
2019
federal
home
loan
bank,
affordable
housing
program
funds
as
grant
money
in
the
project
and
what
they
ended
up
doing
was
creating
six
units
overall
in
phase
three
and
they
created
two
phases:
phase
3a
in
phase
3b.
P
P
So
the
150
000
50
000
per
unit,
and
it
would
be
a
construction
loan,
which
is
something
we
haven't
yet
done
out
of
the
for
sale
development
program,
meaning
that
money
upon
sale
of
the
units
to
the
end
buyers
is
going
to
come
back
to
the
housing
opportunity
fund
for
us
to
invest
again
in
similar
types
of
projects.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that.
P
Overall,
this
phase
phase
3b
is
going
to
be
financed
with
414
000
of
credit
from
first
commonwealth
bank
about
324
thousands
reimbursable
as
part
of
their
grant,
and
then
the
other
90
000,
similar
to
the
hof
loan,
is
going
to
be
paid
out
at
closing
and
we're
looking
at
sales
prices
on
these
units
around
90
000,
which
is
very,
I
mean
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
city,
much
lower
than
we
typically
see
even
in
deals
that
are
involving
for
sale,
development
dollars.
P
But
this
pro
this
pro
this
phase
yesterday
with
the
ura
real
estate
loan
review
committee,
was
actually
approved
for
deferred
second
mortgage
financing.
So
we
believe
that
we're
going
to
get
really
deep
affordability
in
this
project,
with
buyers
making,
possibly
as
low
as
around
like
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
being
able
to
afford
several
the
units
that
are
in
this
project.
So
all
in
all,
we're
really
excited
about
it
and
the
ability
to
get
that
deep
level.
Affordability
get
paid
back
and
help
this
project
move
forward.
P
So
an
affordability
restriction
for
all
six
units,
not
just
the
three
that
are
involved
with
this
loan,
but
all
six
units
that
are
in
phase
three
are
going
to
be
subject
to
an
affordability,
deed
restriction
for
10
years,
requiring
that
the
resale
the
property
must
be
affordable
to
a
buyer
at
or
below
80
ami
and
at
a
sales
price,
that's
affordable
to
that
income
level,
and
that's
because
it's
a
loan.
It
doesn't
trigger
that
permanent
affordability.
P
Otherwise,
this
project
is
on
track
with
its
mwb
and
diversity
goals
with
the
ura
and
we'll
have
a
completed
plan
before
we
actually
go
to
construction
closing
for
phase
3b
and
other
than
that.
I
believe
I
had
invited
dave,
bruton,
I'm
not
sure,
he's
joined,
but
I'm
willing
to
take
any
questions
and
sonia
is
also
here.
If
she
needs
to
speak
to
it,
I
suppose,
but
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
board.
Now.
A
Knowledge
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
aye,
aye
anybody
abstain
or
we
already
did
upstains.
I
guess
anybody
opposed
okay
motion
carries
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
and,
and
the
next
is
also
for
sale.
So
I
do
want
to.
I
do
want
to
put
kind
of
a
couple
of
statements
here.
You
know
the
for
sale.
One
was
the
the
program
that
we
had
the
most
funding
available.
A
So
I
am
happy
that
the
community
development
corporations
have
have
recently
started
to
submit
a
lot
of
applications
for
this
program
and
then,
additionally,
on
on
woodland,
avenue
and
brett
will
give
us
a
quick
overview,
but
the
way
we
wrote
it,
it's
actually
h
I
and
j
on
the
agenda
because
of
the
way
it's
tiered
up,
because
of
the
way
it's
going
to
go
into
the
program
as
loans
and
grants.
A
However,
if
you
add
it
up
and
divide
by
five
units,
it's
within
seventy
thousand
dollars
a
unit
for
the
project,
so
I
I'm
passing
it
over
to
brett.
T
All
right,
thanks,
jessica,
good
morning,
everyone
this
is
brett
today,
I'm
seeking
approval
for
a
combination
of
an
fsdp
loan
and
grants
for
phases,
3a
and
3b
of
the
woodland
avenue
revitalization
project
collectively.
This
is
the
third
and
final
phase
of
the
project.
Brightwood
civic
group
is
the
borrower
and
developer
and
northside
leadership
conference
is
the
development
consultant
phase.
3A
involves
the
rehab
rehabilitation
and
sale
of
four
units
along
woodland.
Nav
phase
3b
is
for
two
units.
T
T
So
the
funding
free
review
in
phase
3a
includes
a
128
thousand
dollar
hot
fsdp
loan,
as
well
as
a
133
611
fsdp
grant
the
total
half
commitment
between
the
loan
and
the
grant
on
3a
is
up.
261
000,
so
it
is
like
jessica
said
within
that
70
000
maximum
per
unit
across
those
four
units.
The
loan
itself
would
have
a
zero
percent
interest
rate
24
month
term
and
would
occupy
a
second
lien
position
behind
the
primary
west
bank
construction
loan.
That
loan
is
about
509,
440
and
then
for
phase
3b.
T
The
funding
for
your
review
includes
a
140
000
fsdp
grant.
Each
of
the
two
units
would
receive
the
maximum
70
000
per
unit
and
then
because
all
six
units
receive
either
a
combination
of
the
fsdp
grant
or
loan
there'll
be
a
99-year
affordability
restriction
placed
on
all
six
units
and
at
this
time,
I'll
just
introduce
darnell
jackson
to
mark
fatla
with
the
northside
leadership
conference,
say
a
few
words
before
we
take
any
questions.
Thank.
U
You
yes,
this
is.
This
is
darnell
here
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
guys.
You
know,
I
mean
this.
This
presentation,
sitting
in
on
the
whole
thing
has
been
has
been
great
for
me.
Just
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
commitment
to
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
U
I
mean
we
know
that
what
you
know
has
been
going
on
here,
the
you
know
rapid
rise
and
increase
in
in
the
prices
of
properties.
Here
and
you
know,
having
you
know
a
group
like
you
guys
here
to
to
help
you
know
with
that
that
problem
of
you
know
keeping
affordable
houses
in
this
city.
U
It's
just
it's
just
wonderful
to
see
and
wonder
wonderful
to
be
a
part
of
the
process
with
you
guys
this
project
is,
I
wouldn't
say
that
we
are
finished
with
the
neighborhood
here,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
in
the
marshall
shading
area
we
will
now
in
future
projects
beginning
to
begin
to
look
at
other
streets.
U
This
is
the
third
third
phase
on
woodland
avenue.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
you
guys.
Remember
us.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
were
occurring
in
woodland
avenue
on
woodland
five.
You
know
10
years
ago,
lots
of
shootings,
lots
of
blight
lots
of
landlords
who
were
you
know
who
were
not
taking
care
of
their
properties?
U
Well,
the
good.
The
great
thing
that
has
happened
is
that
brightwood
was
very
committed
to
changing.
You
know
the
dynamics
of
this
major
major
artery
in
their
neighborhood
and
thus
has
actually
been
able
to.
You
know
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
crime
that
is
occurring
in
that
area.
I
mean
I
I
I
haven't
heard
about
any
shootings
or
anything
bad
on
woodland
avenue
in
a
long
time,
some
of
that
stuff
down
to
other
parts
of
the
neighborhood.
U
But
we
have
we
have
you
know
kind
of
secured
this
major
artery,
these
six
houses
will
be
sold.
Eighty
percent
am
we've
been
very
successful
in
getting
buyers.
In
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
actually
want
to
move
into
this
neighborhood,
and-
and
actually
I
mean
I
have-
we
have
one
property
that
has
been
completed
now
from
phase
two.
U
U
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
partners,
the
the
community
development,
the
northside
community
development
fund.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
guys
for
for
your
commitment
to
this
neighborhood.
It
is
a
great
good.
It's
an
it
is.
It
is
a
middle
neighborhood
that
leads
to
cal
to
to
the
brighton
heights
area
and
you
know,
connects
you
know
the
the
the
farther
reaches
of
the
north
side
to
the
central
north
side.
U
So
it
is
vital
that
we
we
had
gotten
some
of
the
the
crime
and
some
of
the
blight
that
was
occurring
in
this
neighborhood
under
control.
I
can
say
that
we
are
well.
We
are
well
on
that
path
and
again,
thank
you
all
for
all
of
your
support
in
this
project.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
very
simple
thing:
the
house
we
just
sold
two
weeks
ago,
single
father
with
two
daughters.
He
he
works
in
in
the
city.
I
think
he's
a
bus
driver,
but
he
was
so
excited
about
that
house
for
months.
He
would
stop
during
construction.
He
would
go
through
it.
He
brought
his
daughters
to
sit
on
the
porch.
Q
I
mean
the
guy
would
drop
in
my
office
on
a
weekly
basis
and
ask
me
how
soon
he
could
put
money
down
and
sign
an
agreement.
Our
our
first
three
buyers
in
the
woodland
series
were
single
women
and
we've
really
seen
a
whole
different
opportunity
for
that
community
that
really
got
hollowed
out
on
homeownership
when
horace
mann
school
closed
a
lot
of
families
that
lived
there
fled
when
the
school
closed
15
years
ago
or
better,
and
so
this
has
been
a
way
to
for
them
to
rebuild
their
home.
Q
Ownership
base
attract
new
folks,
it's
been
successful,
so
I
think
that's
a
tribute
to
the
vision
of
the
community
leadership
in
brightwood,
jamie,
younger
angel
gober
and
the
folks
at
the
neighborhood
level,
who
are
doing
this.
Remember
we're
just
the
technicians
they're,
the
guys
who
are
driving
the
energy
and
the
strategy.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
all
your
work
in
the
neighborhood,
are
there
any
other
questions.
L
L
Q
We
we
can
certainly
make
that
referral
back
to
brightwood.
I
don't
know
all
of
the
conversations
they've
had,
so
we
can
certainly
pass
that
back
and
make
that
connection
for
them.
A
A
L
A
Three
tiers
are
128
000
for
a
for
sale,
development
program,
loan
for
phase
3,
a
three
133
six
hundred
and
eleven
dollars
for
a
four
cell
development
program
grant
for
phase
three
a
and
then
a
one
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollar
for
sale
development
program
grant
for
phase
three
joanna
made.
The
motion
is
there
a
second.
H
A
All
okay,
so
I
think
that's
all
for
for
voting,
so
if
people
were
hanging
on
to
be
counted
in
a
quorum,
thank
you
so
much
moving
on
to
staff
updates.
So
this
first
one
is
the
community
ambassador
program.
A
At
the
last
month's
meeting,
we
brought
a
contract
in
front
of
you
for
amazon
today,
there's
not
an
action
needed,
because
the
ura
contract
is
with
with
amazillow,
but
jeremy
and
amazon
would
like
to
update
you
regarding
the
program
and
the
rfp
that
amazo
issued.
N
Sure,
thanks
jessica,
we
had
alma
cell,
had
the
rfp
open
for
about
two
weeks
and
then
met
with
advisory
board
member
representatives,
ura
representatives
and
other
stakeholders
in
the
community
around
housing
to
discuss
the
applications
that
they
were
received
after
those
meetings,
omacello
selected
four
agencies
to
become
community
ambassador
organizations,
so
that's
wellness,
collective
five,
youth
citizens,
council,
hazelwood
initiative,
homewood
children's
village.
It
was
also
on
there
and
there
is
talks
about
possibly
also
working
having
homework.
Children's
village,
maybe
possibly
work
with
operation
better
black.
N
N
I
There
were
opportunities
for
folks
to
apply,
but
there
was
also
the
difficulty
of
during
covet
and
isolation
and
some
of
the
restrictions
that
folks
are
facing,
including
serving
a
lot
more
folks
during
this
time
and
that
the
application
period
was
short
and
that
we
wanted
to
keep
our
conversations
open.
As
we
start
with
our
nine
ambassadors,
to
be
constantly
benchmarking
and
taking
our
lessons
learned
and
bringing
them
back
to
the
community
for
conversations
on
how
we
move
forward
and
potential
expansion.
As
we
launch
the
program.
S
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
this
operation
better
block
in
homework
children's
village.
We
have
not
had
any
conversations
about
this
program
and
are
not
in
any
conversations
about
the
community
ambassador
program,
so
just
to
be
clear
that
may
happen
in
the
future,
but
that
is
not
happening
at
this
point.
So
I.
A
And-
and
you
know
that
does
remind
me
that
a
couple
of
advisory
board
members
are
part
of
these
groups.
So
once
again,
there's
not
an
action
being
taken,
but
I
did
want
to
re-emphasize
that
joanna
deming
is
part
of
feinview
and
sonia
tillman
as
part
of
hazelwood
initiative.
A
Okay,
moving
on
and
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
for
the
record-
I
am
scrolling
through
zoom
here
and
I
see
that
a
few
members
have
joined
us
teresa,
kale
smith,
kelly
ware
seaburn
and,
I
think
jerome.
I
don't
think
you
were
here
actually
when
we
called
roll
as
well.
So
so
we
have
three
more
members.
So
thank
you
for
joining
next.
A
I
want
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
chair
position
and
the
creation
of
the
bylaws,
because
you
know,
as
I
reported
last
month,
we
had
a
committee
meeting
and
I
was
encouraged
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
on
this.
At
the
same
time,
we
identified
the
gap
of
not
actually
having
bylaws.
A
So
not
only
did
we
not
have
a
description
for
a
chair,
but
we
we
don't
actually
know
what
the
committee
is
technically
supposed
to
be
doing,
and
I
I
really
looked
at
the
legislation
and
the
legislation
basically
talks
about
the
committee
approving
the
allocation
plan
each
year
as
as
its
largest
function,
it
talks
about
holding
quarterly
meetings.
We
choose
to
hold
monthly
for
public
engagement,
but
according
to
the
legislation
we
need
to
vote
quarterly
and
that
the
vacuum
board
needs
to
be
active
in
the
allocation
vacation
allocation.
A
You
know
we
have
historically
taken
it
a
step
farther
by
bringing
the
individual
commitment
or
request
loan
requests
for
the
line
items
in
front
of
you.
But
what
we
would
like
the
a
consultant
to
do
is
to
to
study
nationwide
best
practices
and
tell
us
you
know
what
are
other
cities
doing
with
their
trust
funds?
How
do
they
operate
them?
How
is
public
engagement
involved
and
what
is
the
role
of
the
advisory
board
and
then
to
draft
a
chair
description?
A
These
are
probably
out
of
order
also
for
the
consultant
to
interview
a
few
of
you
to
be
able
to
get
your
ideas
and
then
to
create
the
bylaws.
So
I
did
reach
out
to
hrna
advisors
who
helped
us.
Those
of
you
that
have
been
here
since
the
beginning
know
that
they
helped
us
set
up
the
fund
and
they
have
given
me
a
proposal
to
to
enter
into
a
four-week
engagement
to
do
this.
So
the
plan
is
for
the
ura
to
hire
them.
A
We
will
hopefully
get
them
under
contract
late
next
week
and
then
be
able
to
enter
into
that
four
week
period
with
the
in
resolve
being
draft
by
laws
and
also
a
draft
chair
description.
Are
there
any
questions.
V
A
A
Idea
either
but
yeah
I
I
will
put
that
recommendation
on
to
them.
If
they
could
do
a
quick
survey
for
everybody,
you
know
they
they
just
mentioned.
They
didn't.
You
know
think
they
could
do
17,
but.
V
A
A
Let
me
know
so
that
you
know
I
can
start
to
figure
out
what
what
your
interests
are,
because
I
am
gonna
be
asking
for
a
lot
of
committees
and
a
lot
of
things
over
the
next
couple
of
months
as
we
move
towards
the
next
allocation
plan.
A
Okay,
next,
this
this
is
just
an
update.
Everybody
knows
this.
I
think
the
2019
annual
report
is
published,
megan
referenced
it
it's
on
our
website
and
find
it
at
ura.org
and
thank
you
to
the
staff.
Thank
you
to
bettina
and
jeremy
and
everybody
that
worked
on
this
and
yeah.
Please.
If
you
haven't
looked
at
it
already,
please
do
so
and
thanks
to
the
consultant
that
helped
us
as
well
e
properties.
A
A
Okay,
next,
okay,
so
we
are
entering
into
2021
annual
allocation
time.
So,
as
we
all
know,
now
is
the
time
that
you
know
the
city
looks
at
their
budgeting
for
2021.
A
The
hof
is
legislated
in
the
legislation
to
come
out
of
the
city's
operating
budget
in
the
amount
of
10
million
dollars.
But
according
to
the
legislation,
we
have
to
do
a
public
process,
and
then
we
need
to
be
in
a
position
to
get
to
in
front
of
you
all
for
final
vote,
the
ura
for
final
vote
and
then
also
city
council
before
the
end
of
the
year,
and
please
recognize
that
city
council
is
a
three-week
process
as
well.
A
Once
we
even
introduce
the
legislation,
so
we
we
are
realizing
that
we're
kind
of
starting
to
to
hit.
You
know
the
time
that
we
got
to
start
moving
through
this
timeline
pretty
quickly.
Here
is
a
proposal
of
what
staff
is
proposing
to
do
to
be
able
to
to
make
it
through
council
before
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
So
in
august,
we
we
have
a
slate,
as
you
will
remember,
a
slate
of
latina.
A
How
many
firms
the
balance
yeah
is
10
firms
that
have
responded
to
an
rfp
to
help
us
do
community
outreach.
We
have
a
slate
of
about
10
firms,
so
we
plan
to
do
a
mini
rfp
this
month
to
them
to
help
with
the
community
outreach.
A
Now,
in
this
time
of
covid
and
and
everything
is
being
done
on
zoom,
a
thought
that
that
we
want
to
talk
to
you
about
is
possibly
just
structuring
it
as
a
very
small
rfp
and
offering
up
to
maybe
three
or
four
like,
depending
on
how
many
respondents
we
get
three
or
four
groups
to
enter
into
very
small
contracts,
roughly
a
thousand
dollars
a
piece
to
host
one
at
least
one
large
zoo
meeting
through
their
networks
and
to
disperse
information
via
their
networks.
A
At
the
same
time,
we
will
also
be
working
on
a
survey
which
we
will
ask
for
volunteers
from
the
advisory
board
to
help
us
craft
those
survey
questions,
but
then
that
our
community
outreach
consultants
can
help
get
the
survey
out.
Last
year
we
did
get
bettina.
How
many
responses
did
we
get
last
year
about
300
yeah,
roughly
300
responses
to
the
survey?
We
really
want
to
get
more
than
that
this
year
and
we
feel
like
by
hiring
a
few
consultants
that
we
can
help.
You
know
spread
that
to
a
larger
network
of
folks.
A
So
so,
if
that
happens
and
they're
under
contract
in
september
and
on
the
slide
here,
the
survey
opens
in
september
and
the
public
meetings
are
held.
Then
in
october
the
advisory
board
can
actually
draft
the
plan.
At
the
same
time,
you
know,
given
the
conversation
today
about
fair
housing,
you
know
division
board.
We
might
need
to
start
convening
meetings
at
the
end
of
september
to
discuss.
A
From
from
you
all,
and
I
know
in
in
the
past,
we
have
liked
to
do
a
preliminary
vote
and
then
a
final
vote.
If
we
allow
adequate
time
for
public
engagement,
I
don't
know.
If
we'll
be
able
to
do
that,
I
mean
we
might
be
able
to
potentially
hold
a
special
advisory
board
meeting,
or
something
like
that.
A
You
know
two
weeks
apart,
but
but
the
goal
is
really
to
get
a
final
vote
from
the
advisory
board
in
november,
followed
by
a
ura
governing
board
vote
the
second
thursday
of
november,
so
that
it
could
be
introduced
to
council
the
third
week
of
november
and
of
course,
thanksgiving
is
in
there.
So
then
that'll
put
us
basically
three
weeks
into
december
before
getting
final
vote,
hopefully
right
before
the
holidays.
A
I
Jessica,
I
think
that
this
is
you
know
for
me
and
I
think
others
an
ongoing
concern
if
we
just
use
the
hof
meetings
for
these
conversations,
we
have
basically
no
time
to
really
dive
into
any
of
these
topics
or
really
engage
in
the
data.
I
So
if
we
can
start
to
think
about
either
subcommittee
meetings
or
special
target
focus
meetings
so
that
we
can
really
you
know
each
year
we're
saying
we
want
to
take
a
deeper
dive
and
we
want
to
have
strategies,
and
but
each
year
we
get
to
this
point.
Where
we're
now,
we
suddenly
have
to
do
this
plan
and
we're
rushing
forward
and
part
of
that's
really,
because
we
have
a
two
hour
administrative
meeting
every
month,
and
this
is
a
lot
more
than
two
hours
of
a
meeting
every
month.
I
So
I
personally
have
concerns
about
the
ways
that
we're
engaging
the
community
I'll
speak
for
mark
masterson,
it's
something
that
he's
brought
up
several
times
as
well.
You
know:
is
there
a
way
here
in
august,
at
the
bare
minimum?
Could
we,
you
know,
convene
a
separate
and
distinct
group
of
all
members
that
want
to
participate
to
talk
about?
How
we're
going
to
do
that
outreach
and
engagement
to
talk
about
what
data
we
need
to
talk
about
what
data
we
have
to
really.
You
know.
I
I
just
feel
like
I'm
not
doing
any
of
this
justice
in
a
two
hour
a
month
meeting,
and
I
would
like
to
slow
down,
take
a
breath
and
be
able
to
do
better,
cleaner,
more
well-informed
work,
because
I
think
that
this
fund
deserves
it.
I
think
our
community
deserves
it.
So
if,
if
we
could
talk
about
that
a
little
bit,
I
would
really
appreciate
it.
M
Adrian
to
your
point
as
well
that
text
that's
highlighted
in
yellow,
we
will
be
hosting
a
meeting
for
advisory
board
members
who
would
like
to
help
to
create
the
survey,
and
we
can
definitely
use
that
meeting
as
well
to
discuss
and
take
a
deeper
dive
into
the
data
so
that
we
can
be
targeting
the
questions
and
ensuring
that
we
are
collecting
the
data
that
we
would
like
before.
The
survey
goes
out.
I
Could
we
also
discuss
format
of
how
we're
engaging
folks
at
that
time?
Is
that
too
late?
I
mean
end
of
august?
I
know
it's
already
the
second
week
well,
first
week
of
august,
but
also
just
the
strategy.
You
know
these
are
really
strange
times
and
if
we've
felt
in
the
past
that
we
haven't
gotten
enough
saturation
in
the
conversations
this
year
is
going
to
be
ten
times
more
difficult,
absolutely.
M
Given
you
know,
this
covet
environment
hosting
in-person
meetings
is
just
not
possible,
so
we
have
to
get
really
creative
so
we're
looking
to
these
outreach
firms
to
see
what
kind
of
tools
and
services
they
can
provide.
Given
our
limitations-
and
so
you
know
we
won't
be
contracting
with
these
firms
until
after
this
advisory
board
session
meeting.
So
before
we
make
these
awards,
we
can
definitely
incorporate
the
feedback
that
we've
received
from
the
advisory
board
members
to
help
guide
which
firms
would
be
best
suited
for
the
outreach.
M
V
M
It's
going
to
be
a
the
existing
list
right
now
and
I
can
actually
send
you
that
list
kelly
if
you're
interested
in.
V
Sure
no,
I
was
just
a
little
bit
curious.
I
just
this
idea.
I
guess
was
about
broadening
that
because,
as
we,
I'm
not
sure,
obviously
the
people
that
we
have
on
our
list
are
on
our
list,
because
we
think
they're
great
right
but
just
kind
of
in
this
new
environment
reaching
a
broader
range
of
people
might
be
something
where,
like
a
small
community
group
for
500
bucks,
can
get
us
the
answers
to
our
questions
to
a
list
or
a
group
of
people.
That
may
be
a
traditional
outreach,
consulting
firm.
J
I
have
a
comment
why,
while
kelly
is
frozen,
I
kind
of
had
a
brought
this
up
initially
when
we
kicked
things
off
about.
You
know
really
taking
a
time
to
delve
into
these
issues
similar
to
adrian,
especially
in
light
of
that
fair
housing
presentation.
We
need
to
now
be
intentional.
You
know
our
timing,
we're
basically
talking
about
trying
to
kick
in
basically
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
again.
J
If
we
follow
this
timeline,
I
think
we
need
to
ensure
and
be
intentional,
that
these
fair
housing,
you
know
measures
and
this
historical
legacy
that
has
has
you
know,
haunted
our
community
is,
is
implemented.
I
also
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
the
community
members
at
all
these
outreach
meetings
to
actually
hear
that
presentation
to
incorporate
that
as
part
of
the
agenda
item.
J
Before
we
start
talking
about
anything,
I
don't
even
think
we
should
be
talking
about
allocation
plan
without
first
understanding
how
this
new
data
is
going
to
be
incorporated
into,
and
I
think
I
think
the
community
actually
even
needs
to
hear
that
as
well.
So
just
some
thoughts.
A
You
know
one
one
thought
that
I'd
like
the
committee,
I
think
to
think
about
as
it
relates
to
this
is
and
and
when
you
talk
to
hrna
regarding
basically
the
biowas
and
what
this
committee
you
know
is
supposed
to
be
doing
is
in
this
two-hour
meeting
from
the
beginning.
We
have
started
to
structure
it
with
you
approving
the
loans
and
the
grant
requests
out
of
the
different
line
items
that
is
not,
as
I
said,
legislated
the
annual
allocation
plan
is
legislated.
A
We
started
doing
that
because
you
know
how
do
you
already
traditionally
function,
however,
if
this
committee
sees
their
role
more
as
helping
to
craft
policy
and
making
sure
that
you
know
issues
like
the
fair
housing
partnership
talked
about
today
are
addressed.
J
I
personally
wouldn't
necessarily
say
that,
because
I
think
the
two
are
interconnected,
you
know
policy
influences,
you
know
staffs,
you
know
decision
making,
etc.
J
So
I
I
wouldn't
say
we
want
to
not
be
a
part
of
that
process,
because
that
that's
basically,
where
rubber
meets
the
road
on
how
these
policies
actually
play
out
in
real
life.
So
I
wouldn't
want
to
not
be
a
part
of
that.
I'm
saying
we
need
to
do
both
but
more
time
on
the
front
end.
You
know
on
the
policy
side
and
and
the
decision-making
side.
V
Well,
I
think,
to
piggyback
that
implementation
of
policy
is,
is
critical,
and
so
I
second
derek's
opinion
that
we
should
be
involved.
But
one
idea
that
we
played
around
with
pre-coveted
in
the
pre-covet
environment,
which
seems
like
an
eternity
ago,
was
doing
rounds
of
funding.
So
we
could
really
maybe
have
some
deep
dives
on
those
types
of
talks,
maybe
quarterly
and
not
have
to
spend
such
a
huge
chunk
of
every
meeting.
V
I
I
Do
we
do
electronic
votes
and
I'm
not
saying
that
that's
always
appropriate,
but
I
think
it's
the
mix
of
different
ways
that
we
engage
each
other
so
that
administrative
items
can
have
their
due
diligence.
But
then
this
policy,
conversation
and
implementation
can
also
have
its
due
diligence
and
I
apologize.
I
also
have
to
leave
the
meeting,
but
I
think
that
this
is
one
of
the
more
exciting
conversations
that
we
continue
to
have,
and
hopefully
we
can
spend
more
time
focused
on
this
piece,
because
to
your
point
jessica,
I
think
absolutely.
I
This
group
is
hungry
for
the
policy
piece,
but
we
also
don't
want
to
short
shrift
any
of
the
other
conversations
that
we're
having
related
to
funding
to
applications
to
organizations
and
what
their
needs
are.
So
if
we
can
figure
out
some
creative
way
to
do
it,
all
that
would
be.
A
Okay,
so
I
mean
just
you
know:
stay
tuned
for
more
emails
from
us
I,
via
email.
I
I
introduced
victoria
jackson,
she's
a
new
senior
program
assistant
with
the
ura.
You
may
be
receiving
emails
from
her
or
or
really
for
many
of
us,
but
but
myself,
the
tina
jeremy
related
to
the
to
this
on
annual
allocation
plan.
So
we'll
just
try
to
keep
everybody
in
the
loop
as
we
move
forward
any
other
questions
or
concerns.
Before
we
move
on
okay,
satina,
you
want
to
show
the
yeah
expenditures
to
date.
M
Sure
yeah
so
I'll
move
through
these
pretty
quickly
because
we
have
about
three
minutes
left
in
the
meeting.
So
this
map,
of
course,
is
shows
the
impact
of
hml
programs
throughout
the
city
as
hof
and
the
impact
of
our
programs
continue
to
grow
if
there
is
a
different
way.
The
advisory
board
members
would
like
to
see
this
map
in
this
data.
Please.
M
Let
me
know,
for
example,
we
can
break
out
development
versus
consumer
programs
just
so
that
it's
a
little
bit
easier
to
see
and
decipher
the
programs,
and
for
this
slide
we
had
added
an
additional
resource
column,
as
you
see
specifically,
to
address
hsp.
M
So
with
hsp
we
have
the
hlf
funds
and
then
the
cdbg
appropriate
corporate
dollars
and
then
foundation
dollars
as
well.
So
this
chart
really
shows
how
fast,
how
quickly
we're
actually
moving
through
hsp
we're
a
little
over
half
committed
on
all
of
our
hsp
funding.
At
this
point-
and
so
this
this
chart
just
gives
a
good
overview
of
how
far
we're
going
and
how
fast
we're
going
and
to
the
point
of
the
aggressive
timeline
for
the
2021
annual
allocation
plan,
you
can
see
we're
about
two-thirds
committed
in
hos
funding.
M
A
Committed
and
also
just
real
fast,
you
know
we
added
that
additional
resource
to
to
kind
of
highlight
what's
happening
with
hsp,
because
that's
the
that's,
the
primarily
decoded
funding
the
city
gave
us
and
a
couple
of
foundations,
but
next
month
we
will
also
update
it
to
combine
our
cdbg
and
home
resources
for
the
rental
gap
program.
A
You
know
kelly
mentioned
that
we
had
talked
about
doing
funding
rounds
and-
and
you
also
may
have
noticed
that
you
haven't
seen
any
rental
gap
program
awards
come
in
front
of
you
the
last
couple
of
months
and
that's
been
because
we
we
are
fully
committed
on
the
the
2018
and
2019
rgp,
and
so
it
is
our
intent
to
do
an
rfp
for
hof
and
cdbg
and
home
resources
for
2020
coming
up
soon,
probably
by
the
end
of
september,
that
rfp
will
be
released.
M
We
have
one
more
so
I'll
go
through
this
very,
very
quickly,
and
so
this
chart
could
actually
address
some
of
the
data
questions
that
were
asked
during
public
comments.
So
this
chart
does
provide
a
breakdown
of
hr
programs
by
dollars
and
then
unit
amounts
by
the
ami
level.
So,
for
example,
hsp
you
can
see
that
there
are
over
700
households
who
are
being
served
at
the
30
ami
level
or
below,
and
then
also
we
do
know
that
a
majority
of
the
households
and.
M
Are
minority
households
and
then
women,
head
of
households
as
well?
There
was
a
a
huge
increase
from
july's
figures
to
august.
Hsp
did
increase
by
500
households
and.
M
Million
dollars
from
july
to
august,
this
is
due
to
increased
demand
and
then
also
service
providers
getting
caught
up
on
invoices.
M
There
was
an
increase
as
well
of
about
107
households,
which
is
pretty
significant
about
three
million
dollars
from
last
month
to
this
month,
since
how
plus
was
created,
we've
received
about
70
applications
and
about
52
of
those
households
are
currently
in
the
process,
and
hat
plus
again
is
for
households
up
to
80
percent
ami.
M
So
that
has
been
a
very
popular
program
since
it's
launched
and
just
the
demand
for
home
repairs
has
gone
up
since
last
month
as
well,
and
we
suspect
it's
potentially
due
to
coven
and
households
needing
to
shelter
in
place
and
safe,
habitable
homes
and
also
just
covet,
has
prompted
homeowners
to
address
these
home
repairs
now
versus
later
on
down
the
line.
M
N
J
H
J
Have
a
request,
it's
great,
to
see
this
data.
You
know
in
real
time
you
know
situations,
but
if
we
could
also
see
the
demographic
data
in
real
time,
so
we
can
actually
understand
you
know,
what's
happening
and
connected
to
the
fair
housing
conversation
as
well
in
real
time,
so
so,
demographically,
race,
etc.
H
Questions
slide
that
has
all
the
pens
with
the
maps
is
there
any
way
that
it
like?
That's
the
slides,
really
jumbled
up,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
that-
is
there
any
way
to
be
broken
out.
I
mean
I
know
that
it's
color
based,
but
if
it
was
just
like
one
per
each
program
I
mean
I
know
that
it's
a
lot,
but
I
mean
it
would
allow
at
least
people
to
see
because
it
just
looks
like
a
whole
bunch
of
colors
and
it
shows
a
lot
of
impact.
V
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
it
broken
down
between
rental
programs
and
homeowner
programs,
so
we
can
see
kind
of
where
we're
providing
like
a
you,
know,
more
permanent
wealth
building
opportunities
for
folks.
I'd
be
really
interested
in
that.
J
A
Out
sure
I
mean
really
it's
it's
just
showing
that
especially
the
housing
stabilization
program
and
the
homeowner
assistance
program.
I
mean
the
numbers
we're
hitting
are
really
high
at
this
point,
so
I
think
we
you
know
all
should
collectively
be.
You
know,
proud
of
that,
and
and
understanding
too,
that
there
is
geographic
distribution
for
most
of
these
programs.
A
You
know
it's
always
hard
to
say,
but
at
this
point
I
think
it's
pretty
safe
to
say
we
will
be
doing
that
one
online
again
so
september
3rd
at
9,
00
am
the
inner
cities
youtube
channel
and
the
same
link
we
use
today,
but
I'll
be
emailing
out
the
link
again
next
month.
A
Any
other
questions
before
I
ask
for
a
motion
for
adjournment
and
here's
just
a
reminder.
Everyone
interested
in
hsp
should
continue
to
call
2-1-1
for.
A
And
for
mortgage
assistance
also
just
want
to
re-emphasize
that
with
the
city
giving
us
the
cdbg
coveted
funding,
not
only
was
that
able
to
help
with
the
rental
assistance,
but
a
million
of
that
money
went
directly
from
mortgage
assistance.
So
if
you
are
a
homeowner
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
who's
struggling
to
pay
their
mortgage
due
to
covert
related
loss
of
income,
you
can
actually
call
and
enroll
in
this
program
before
you
enter
into
default,
and
you
know
get
the
official
letter
from
your
bank.