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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
march
meeting
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
board,
we
will
begin
by
calling
role
of
members.
D
E
B
Right
button,
that's
all
right:
it
happens
to
the
best
of
us,
sonia
tillman,
here,
derek
tillman.
A
G
A
H
H
B
Sure
was
that
portion
of
the
meeting
was
it
joanna.
H
H
J
J
Yes,
so
whoever
makes
the
the
to
first
denomination
if
they
could
just
say
with
that
additional
change.
A
I
also
have
an
addition,
an
addition.
It
would
be
on
page
seven
when
we
were
discussing
the
flats
on
forward.
A
It
didn't
make
it
into
the
final
motion
that
I
made,
but
I
did
want
the
record
to
reflect
somewhere
that
this
was
not
that
it
was
atypical
given
the
way
that
the
funds
came
into
the
hoff
rather
than
something
that
we
wanted
to
do
on
a
regular
basis
with
pre-allocated
funds
that
went
through
the
regular
allocation
process.
So
again
it
didn't
make
it
into
the
motion
itself,
but
we
did
want
that
in
here
for
posterity
somewhere.
If
any.
If
we
can
add
that
as
well.
Okay.
A
Yes
and
something
about
the
origin
of
the
funds,
because
it
was,
they
were
councilman
o'connor's
funds
given
gifted
to
the
hoff
that
they
were
going
back
essentially
to
his
district,
something
about
yeah,
just
being
atypical
and
that
we
would
want
to
stick
more
closely
to
our
allocation
plan
moving
forward
unless
it's
unanticipated
funds
or
something
to
that
nature.
J
Okay,
so
so
victoria
can
get
it.
You
know
in
the
minutes.
The
way
you
want
it
is
the
statement
kelly
where
she
bring
mentioned
that
this
scenario
is
very
atypical,
because
in
this
particular
situation,
the
councilman
for
the
district
has
allocated
additional
funding,
which
he
is
supportive
of
this
project,
and
this
is
why
the
the
exception
to
the
guidelines
is
being
made
at
this
point.
A
Okay,
if
not,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
mish?
The
minutes
with
those
revisions.
L
L
F
A
Okay,
great
questions
are
approved,
minutes
are
approved.
Next
we
have
our
public.
G
D
G
Sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity
at
the
federal
level,
which
is
quite
fantastic,
because
even
though
we
have
local
protected
classes
in
the
city
for
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity,
we
now
have
federal
backing
of
pursuing
such
fair
housing
cases
as
they
come
forward
to
fhp
and
are
then
filed
at
the
pittsburgh
civil,
the
pittsburgh
commission
on
human
relations,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
D
G
I
am
very
excited
to
do
it.
I
know.
Today
we
have
the
fair
housing
committee
on
the
agenda.
I've
had
some
wonderfully
productive
meetings,
and
so,
after
everything
is
established
with
the
committee's
membership,
I
will
reach
out
or
ask
that
the
committee
reaches
out
to
me
in
the
next
week
and
we
can
set
a
meeting
and
we
can
start
planning.
G
We
have
the
opportunity
to
create
something
new
that,
while
we
as
a
country
have
recognized
as
needed
to
be
created
since
1968,
when
the
afsh
regulation
was
embedded
in
the
fair
housing
act,
we
now
need
to
figure
it
out
and
how
to
actually
do
it.
There
are
precedents.
There
are
examples,
but
nationally
there
is
no
singular
version
that
we
can
apply
and
now
it's
time
to
figure
out
the
work
itself,
and
I
can't
wait
to
get
started
and.
D
G
Look
forward
to
getting
started
in
march
and
to
have
news
and
progress
to
be
able
to
report
in
april
in
order
to
commemorate
their
housing
month
with
the
work
that
we
are
doing
here.
I
do
want
to
raise
a
concern
regarding
the
housing
stabilization
program.
I
sent
an
fhp
client
to
2-1-1
to
receive
hsp
funds
for
rent
relief
and
other
monies
related
to
his
tennessee
and
loss
of
income
due
to
kovic.
G
I
think,
overall,
this
is
timely
to
address
the
concept
of
coordinated
entry
being
contracted
with
211,
in
order
to
consider
that
hsp
and
the
legal
landlord
tenant
module
that's
coming
online
is
able
to
collaborate
and
be
part
of
a
coordinated
entry
that
is
functional
and
workable.
So
that
way
we
have
an
equitable
system.
That's
going
to
serve
the
residents
of
pittsburgh.
You
know
even
post
coded,
because
the
amazing
part
of
the
hos
is
that
it's
permanent
and
it's
not
tied
to
emergency
declarations
or
emergency
funds.
G
B
Thank
you
and.
A
Now
the
ura
will
present
on
the
garfields
on
highlands,
development.
M
It's
hi
good
morning.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
evan
miller
and
I
am
here
to
talk
about
the
garfield
highlands
project
that
is
up
for
approval
today.
M
M
So
the
project
itself
is
the
they'll,
be
acquiring
30
lots
from
the
city
ura
private
owners
that
are
currently
abandoned
or
vacant
homes
and
or
vacant
lots
and
they're
going
to
develop
25,
affordable,
single
family,
new
construction,
rental
units
on
scattered
sites
on
the
streets
mentioned
prior
and
the
project
is
going
to
be
a
mix
of
14
three
bedroom
units
and
11,
two
bedroom
units,
three
of
the
units
will
be
affordable
to
households
at
or
below,
30
percent.
M
Ami
13
of
the
units
will
be
affordable
to
households
at
or
below
50
ami,
and
then
there
will
also
be
nine
units
that
are
affordable
to
households
that
are
below
60.
M
Ami
and
50
of
the
units
are
being
reserved
for
households
that
are
either
homeless
or
have
special
needs,
and
four
of
the
units
will
be
accessible
as
well.
Another
unique
aspect
of
this
project
is
that
well,
first
of
all,
let
me
say
it's
a
nine
percent
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
project
that
was
awarded
this
past
year
by
phfa
and
that
typically
results
in
a
40-year
period
of
rental
affordability.
M
But
at
year,
15
going
into
year
16
for
this
project,
all
of
the
units
will
the
tenants
in
the
units
will
have
the
option
to
purchase
the
home
that
they're
living
in
at
an
affordable
sales
price.
Basically,
a
sales
price,
that's
sufficient
to
to
pay
off
the
remaining
debt
on
the
project,
which
right
now
is
projected
to
just
be
debt
to
the
ura.
M
So
that's
that's
similar
to
how
the
previous
two
projects
that
bgc
and
gatesburg
road
have
done
together,
but
certainly
a
relatively
unique
idea
to
affordable
housing
overall.
In
the
city,
we
haven't
seen
a
whole
lot
of
that
and
it's
definitely
a
unique
and
exciting
opportunity
for
this
neighborhood,
especially
given
how
property
values
are
really
taking
off
in
garfield,
and
the
demand
is
quite
substantial.
M
I
believe
for
their
first
two
phases:
there's
a
waiting
list
of
over
400
people,
so
these
are
certainly
coveted
units
in
the
garfield
neighborhood.
M
The
requested
amount
from
hof
today
is
540
000
overall
there's
a
total
ura
loan
of
1.25
million
dollars,
so
the
other
710
000,
that's
not
being
discussed
today,
is
coming
from
various
years
of
home
allocations
that
the
ura
is
able
to
fund
the
project
with
so
again
540
000
from
hof
here
today
from
the
2020
rgp
line
item,
and
it
would
be
a
loan
term
of
40
years
with
an
interest
rate
of
zero
percent.
However,
that
is
subject
to
change.
The
equity
investor
may
require
us
to
add
interest
to
our
loan.
M
It's
it
can.
These
negotiations
can
happen
as
we
move
towards
a
closing,
so
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
Three
of
the
units
that
are
the
three
units
that
are
at
or
below
30
ami
will
all
be
receiving
funding
from
hof
180
000,
so
that's
60,
000
per
unit
and
then
11
of
the
50
units,
so
there's
13
overall
and
we're
proposing
indeed
restriction
for
hof
on
11
units
at
or
below
50
ami,
with
a
funding
amount
of
360
000.
So
that
comes
out
to
a
total
request
of
540
000..
M
I
do
want
to
just
make
it
clear
that
those
50
units,
that's
a
funding
amount
of
about
32
700
per
unit,
and
right
now
we
have
a
cap
for
50
units
to
be
funded
up
to
30
000.
So
typically,
we'd
come
for
a
waiver
as
well,
but
I
do
want
to
disclose
that
we'll
be
at
the
ura
board
this
month
seeking
a
small
amendment
to
the
rgp
guidelines
that
lie
tech
projects
not
have
a
per
unit
maximum,
but
instead
just
a
project.
M
Maximum,
so
that's
why
we're
not
asking
for
a
waiver
this
month-
and
I
do
want
to
make
it
clear
that
this
is
slightly
above
the
thirty
thousand
dollar
cap,
but
not
by
a
whole
lot.
It's
a
like.
I
said
thirty,
two
thousand
seven
hundred
the
repayment
of
this
loan
would
be
a
cash
flow
alone.
Fifty
percent
of
the
project's
annual
cash
flow
and
as
they're
selling
these
units,
starting
in
year
16
each
sale
of
the
unit
will
result
in
an
accelerated
payment
back
to
the
ura.
M
Basically,
a
proportional
amount
of
debt
that
is
owed
per
unit
will
get
paid
out
by
the
sales
prices.
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
development
sources.
As
I
mentioned,
we've
got
1.25
million
coming
from
the
ura,
that's
up
for
approval
this
month
at
the
advisory
board
and
at
the
ura
board,
and
then
the
litec
equity.
The
investor
is
korea
llc,
who
is
a
syndicator
from
indiana
who
has
actually
done?
M
I
believe
eight
or
nine
deals
similar
to
this
in
allegheny
county,
so
that
lie
tech
equities
producing
about
7.4
million.
This
project
was
also
awarded
federal
home
loan
banks,
affordable
housing
program
funds
close
to
600
000
and
there's
a
deferred
developer
fee.
So,
overall
the
sources
come
out
to
about
9.4
million,
which
is
equal
to
what
the
project
the
total
project
costs,
are
at
9.4
million.
M
So
I
also
just
want
to
mention
that
their
mwbe
narrative
and
minority
workforce
inclusion
information
is
on
file
diora,
but
we
would
need
a
final
version
of
all
of
those
plans
in
order
to
close
and
also
the
developer
has
submitted
an
affirmative,
fair
housing,
marketing
plan
specific
to
multi-family
housing.
So
in
that
they
outline
strategies
for
how
they're
going
to
affirmatively
market
and
do
outreach,
how
they're
going
to
track
intakes
and
also
detailed
various
housing,
fair
housing
trainings
that
the
management
staff
receives
on
an
annual
basis.
M
The
management
company
is
going
to
be
ndc
asset
management,
who,
I
believe,
manages
a
number
of
units
that
bgc
owns
throughout
the
east
end
and
bgc
will
actually
be
the
supportive
services
provider
for
this
project
as
well.
So
I'm
gonna
stop
there.
We
have
rick
schwartz
from
bgc
and
andy
haynes
from
gatesburg
road
development.
To
take
any
questions,
I'm
also
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
advisory
board.
So
thank
you
and
again
today,
we're
reviewing
540
000
from
the
2020
rental
gap
line
item.
N
No
worries,
thank
you
so
much
and
related
to
the
project.
I
love
the
targeting
aspect
of
getting
folks
into
units
who
may
have
had
housing
instability
experienced
homelessness.
Could
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
what
that
application
process
looks
like
with
a
very
long
waiting
list?
How
will
you
be
targeting
on
these
specific
groups
in
your
outreach
to
get
folks
into
these
units.
F
M
Nothing
yeah,
I
would.
I
would
have
rick,
maybe
speak
to
that.
E
We
have
a
waiting
list,
as
evan
described,
we
have
staff
who
are
managing
our
current
projects,
which
consist
of
a
total
of
64
hubs,
and
they
will
be
the
staff
that
handles
the
intake
process
for
this
new
development
that
we
are
going
to
sit
down
with
them,
as
we
get
a
little
closer
to
a
groundbreaking
and
go
over
the
commitments
that
we've
made
around
both
the
affordability
requirements
and
around
the
families
who
may
be
coming
from
homelessness
or
near
homelessness,
as
well
as
families
that
have
members
who
have
special
needs.
E
So
I
think
what
we
will
do
is
we
will
craft
that
marketing
strategy,
probably
sometime
in
june
or
july,
we'll
go
through
the
waiting
list
that
we
have
and
probably
re-contact
the
people
that
comprise
the
first
200
names
on
that
list
to
see,
if,
indeed
any
of
those
individuals
or
families
would
qualify
under
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
project,
we
are
not
probably
going
to
do
a
wide
publicity
for
this
development
in
terms
of
going
into
ads.
E
You
know
in
various
publications
simply
because
our
waiting
list
now
evan
described
it
as
over
400.
E
We
actually
have
over
800
people
on
that
list
today,
so
I
don't
want
to
encourage
people
to
apply
and
go
to
the
end
of
that
waiting
list
and
think
that
by
applying
somehow,
they
would
have
a
very
good
chance
of
receiving
housing
through
this
project.
So
we're
going
to
try
to
work
that
waiting
list
that
we
have
and
be
sure
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
have
families
who
qualify
under
the
terms
and
conditions
that
have
been
set
for
this
particular
development.
E
E
A
So
that
leads
me
to
a
question
about,
as
you
go
through
the
list
of
of
people
that
are
already
kind
of
in
the
pipeline,
which
is
obviously
we
want
to
reward
people
who
are
in
line,
but
how
to
while
doing
that-
and
I'm
sure
you
don't
have
an
answer,
because
I
I
don't.
A
I
don't-
have
any
suggestions
either,
but
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
as
you
form
that
plan,
but
have
applying
an
additional
equity
lens,
so
that,
if
you
know
only
50
of
that,
800
people
in
the
pipeline
are
like
people
of
color,
for
whatever
reason
that
that's
obviously
not
would
not
be
an
acceptable
percentage
of
applicants
to
put
through
this
process.
A
So
I
don't
know
how
you
would
go
about
that,
but
just
as
you're
forming
your
plan,
that's
definitely
something
that
we
would
want
to
review
in
terms
of
how
that's
going
to
actually
how
people
are
going
to
come
through
the
process.
Even
though
you
already
have
a
lot
in
a
list.
E
Yes,
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
I
understand
from
our
staff
that
over
90
percent
of
the
people
on
the
waiting
list
are
households
of
color,
so
garfield
continues
to
be
a
community
where
we're
attracting
a
lot
of
interest
from
african
american
and
other
minority
households
who
are
living
in
other
communities
all
around
us,
even
from
homewood
from
the
hill
district.
So
I
think
we'll
be
on
solid
ground
in
terms
of
seeing
a
community
served
with
this
project
that
may
not
be
served
with
other
projects
that
are
being
done
across.
E
You
know,
southwestern
pennsylvania.
We
were
fortunate
to
get
a
commitment
of
funds
through
the
federal
home
loan
bank.
This
is
the
first
time
we
received
a
commitment
of
monies
like
that
and
they're
gonna.
Pretty
much
also
be
looking
to
see
how
well
we
execute
the
whole
marketing
and
intake
process
too.
H
I
have
a
question
about.
I
think
it's
great
you
guys
are
looking
at
that
home
ownership
transition.
What
are
your
plans
for
kind
of
preparing
folks
for
that?
What's
the
track
record
in
terms
of
the
organization
responsible,
the
company
responsible
for
that.
E
We
are
now
starting
discussions
with
the
cleveland
housing
network,
which
you,
I
think
the
board
might
be
familiar
with.
This
is
an
organization.
That's
opened
up
conversations
with
other
community
groups
across
the
city.
E
I
know
for
for
one
they're
having
the
same
discussions
in
the
hilt
district,
so
I've
been
in
touch
with
michelle
porter,
who
is
their
local
representative,
and
we
are
actually
going
to
start
a
tenant
education
process
with
our
existing
64
homes,
probably
later
this
summer
or
early
in
the
fall,
where
we
will
engage
the
cleveland
housing
network
as
a
consultant
who
will
work
one-on-one
with
the
families
in
our
first
developments
and
we're
going
to
see
how
well
they
perform
in
that
regard,
so
we're,
I
think,
optimistic
that
we
can
get
a
number
of
our
tenants
to
qualify
for
home
ownership
for
those
who
might
not
know
how
this
works.
E
Specifically
with
the
light
tech
project,
we
really
are
looking
to
simply
retire
any
debt
that
we
have
on
the
development
from
the
sale
of
these
units.
So
our
projection
is
that
for
the
first
64
homes,
the
average
sales
prices
will
range
somewhere
between
60
and
80
000
for
each
family
and
we
are
going
to
escrow
with
each
project,
including
garfield
highlands,
some
money
to
help
with
down
payment
assistance.
E
So,
of
course,
when
you
engage
a
consultant
like
the
event
housing
network,
you
have
to
find
the
funding
to
do
that.
So
we'll
have
to
sit
down
with
ndc
our
management
company
and
see
if
we
can
identify
funds
that
they're
holding
for
the
project
that
could
be
used
to
retain
the
cleveland
housing
network,
because
we
don't
have
an
outside
source
of
funding
for
that
right
now,.
O
If
I
can
add
more
to
everybody,
we
do
are
establishing
a
two
thousand
dollar
per
unit
lease
purchase
reserve,
closing
which
each
tenant
and
year
15
can
access
for
down
payment
assistance,
those
funds,
and
we
did
that
on
the
first
two
phases.
Those
funds
will
sit
in
a
cd
or
some
other
investment
tool
and
gain
interest.
C
E
E
How
how
we
make
sure
that
improvements
are
done
as
they
are
needed
so
that
when
the
time
comes
for
the
house
to
be
appraised
that
there
are
not
going
to
be
issues
with
the
condition
of
the
property.
So
I
think
we
want
to
start
getting
people
to
feel
today
that
this
is
going
to
be
their
home
and
not
wait
until
the
last
hour
to
sit
down
and
begin
that
that
conversation.
H
Yeah
I'd
be
interested
to
look
at
the
c
h
and
that
network
model.
I
know
it
sounds
like
you
are
doing
that
because
I
know
they've
been
very
successful
with
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish.
I
imagine
it
has
a
lot
to
do
not
only
with
that
education,
but
also
with
the
sales
price
and
the
you
know
the
support
with
the
down
payment.
E
And
we've
been
fortunate
in
having
gatesburg
road
development
as
a
partner,
because
the
community
itself
is
actually
a
stakeholder
in
the
project.
You
know
we're
not
just
a
organization
that
gives
advice
to
the
developer,
we're
actually
the
co-developer
as
the
community.
E
So
we're
appreciative
of
the
fact
that
gatesburg
development
recognizes
that,
in
addition
to
all
the
technical
work
that
we
have
to
do
on
this
project,
organizations
in
the
community
can
also
help
with
a
whole
host
of
other
objectives.
So
I
hope
that's
a
model
that
we
see
in
more
neighborhoods
as
we
move
forward.
N
N
P
Well,
I
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
is
how
of
the
25
units
that
you're
doing
how
many
were
publicly
owned.
F
E
No
we're
so
far
down
the
line
now
with
the
vacant
property
reserve.
We've
got
to
switch
over
to
the
land
bank
at
this
juncture,
wouldn't
really
make
much
sense
for
us.
P
E
Well,
I
guess
I'm
going
to
rat
out
the
city
here.
It's
taken
us
the
better
part
of
four
and
a
half
years.
That's.
P
Insane:
okay
cost
of
construction
over
the
past
year
or
two.
Have
you
seen
costs
going
up
or
going
down.
E
O
Let
you
address
that
well,
cost
of
construction
costs
have
probably
gone
up.
30
percent
lumber
is
a
record
high.
O
Historically
always
been
high
compared
to
building
outside
the
city,
but
overall
construction
costs
everywhere
have
gone
up
25
to
30
percent
over
the
past
year.
Okay,.
P
And
I
guess
you
know
you
reference
there.
The
community
plans
referenced
here
how
many
units
are
called
for
total,
like
additional
units.
Besides
these
that
will
be
done
in
your
community
plan.
E
E
E
So
we
are
trying
to,
I
think,
respond
to
that
interest
and
we
have
staff
now
who
are
working
on
just
the
green
zone
project
itself.
E
E
So
we've
established
a
partnership
with
city
of
bridges,
land
trust
among
others,
and
we're
hoping
to
at
least
add
more
home
ownership
opportunities
for
lower
income
households
to
balance
out
the
rental
development
that
we've
been
doing.
J
And
this
just
just
to
respond
to
adrian's
comments,
I
I
was
a
little
slow,
getting
off
mute
there,
but
yeah.
No,
I
I
agree
with
adrian's
comments
and
we
you.
D
J
That,
on
behalf
of
the
staff,
we
try
to
make
sure
you
know
whatever
programs
we
have
for
whatever
situation
gets
gets
you
know
penciled
in
and
as
as
you
all
know,
we
have
down
payment,
closing
cost
assistance
program.
So
you
know
if
that
program
is
still
operational
when
rick
and
andy's
residents,
you
know
get
ready
for
home
ownership.
We,
of
course,
will
you
know,
make
some
ties
there
as
well.
M
Right
and
and
recognizing
that
we
obviously
can't
forward
commit
15
years
to
having
that
program
I
mean
rick.
Please
keep
us
in
the
loop
as
you
engage
this
cleveland
housing
network
like
to
see
how
you
know
these.
The
progress
with
your
first
two
phases,
like
just
the
url,
be
attuned
to
what
you're,
what
the
situation
with
most
of
your
tenants
is
and
how
we
can
help.
E
Okay,
yeah
just
a
final
word:
we
have
a
land
trust
in
garfield,
that's
still
getting
off
the
ground,
and
ultimately
we
also
would
like
to
eventually
see
them
step
in
to
these
projects
and
become
the
organization
that
works
on
the
whole
aspect
of
permanent
affordability.
E
You
know
that
goes
beyond
just
the
commitments
under
li-tech,
so
we're
trying
to
anticipate
a
time
when
the
bgc
itself
will
no
longer
be
doing
housing
development
and
would
probably
benefit
from
having
a
land
trust
take
over
the
role
in
some
of
these
developments
for
us,
but
that's
something
we
have
to
work
out
with
andy
and
the
other
investors
as
time
goes.
E
Q
Is
derek?
I
actually
have
one
question
rick.
I
think
you
mentioned
that
your
organization
is
doing
the
supportive
services.
Do
the
supportive
services
kind
of
complement
the
the
home
ownership
program
that
you
are
looking
to
do
with
this
transition
after
the
compliance
period.
E
Yes,
we
have
two
staff
people
now
who
are
have
been
hired
by
ndc
to
manage
our
existing
developments
in
garfield.
E
One
of
those
individuals
comes
from
garfield
herself
and
those
two
individuals
have
been
providing
supportive
services
for
all
of
our
tenants
right
through
covid
and
and
obviously
beyond.
We
have
organized,
for
example,
delivery
of
food
boxes
to
all
of
our
tenants
in
the
garfield
glenn
one
and
garfield
glenn
ii
developments
that's
been
going
on
for,
for
nearly
the
last
year,
we
have
a
fund,
we
call
neighbors
in
need
that
we
administer
here
at
the
bgc,
it's
foundation,
money
that
we've
been
able
to
raise.
E
So
this
is
a
very
proactive
management
staff
we
wanted
them
here
in
the
community.
We
created
an
office
for
them
at
one
of
our
other
housing
developments.
Laurentian
hall,
which
is
a
senior
apartment
complex
at
the
ura,
had
a
major
role
in
helping
us
get
established.
E
So
we
have
an
employment
center
that
we
operate
downstairs
from
where
I'm
sitting
today,
they
help
with
everything
from
job
applications
resume
building
applying
for
unemployment.
E
You
know
getting
financial
aid
packages
if
you're
going
to
college
and
you
want
to
apply
online
for
those
packages
and
that
complements
another
program
we
have
here
for
high
school
teenagers
who
are
graduating
high
school.
We
also
work
with
our
residents
to
make
sure
that
children
in
their
households
who
are
coming
through
the
pittsburgh
public
school
system
have
a
plan
for
what
they're
going
to
do
after
high
school.
E
So
we
have
a
lot
of
connections
right
now
with
our
tenants
and
literally
they
can
walk
into
our
office
pretty
much
any
time
any
day
of
the
week.
If
they've
got
an
emergency
or
critical
problem,
we
had
a
tenant
come
in
just
on
monday,
who
found
out
that
she
can't
pay
the
entire
rent
for
march.
She
only
had
two
hundred
dollars
for
the
rent
payment-
we're
not
going
to
run
her
through
the
housing
stabilization
program.
For
for
three
hundred
dollars,
so
we
used
our
neighbors
in
need
funding
to
help
her
cover
that
gap.
E
So
that's
a
very
common
kind
of
situation
that
people
encounter
and
we
really
want
to
be
as
responsive
as
possible.
On
that
whole
supportive
services
package,
public
safety,
is
another
area
where
we
work
closely
with
the
tenants.
We
had
a
shooting
last
summer
right
in
the
midst
of
several
units
that
we
own
through
garfield
glenn
and
our
management
staff
and
the
staff
here
work
with
the
police
to
identify.
E
You
know
who
some
of
the
potential
suspects
were
in
the
shooting
and
the
fact
that
they
were
hanging
at
a
playground
right
near
the
development.
All
of
that
now
has
stopped.
E
P
I
have
a
question
for
the
ura
staff
and
just
to
understand
how
the
mortgage
works
and
the
repayment
works.
Is
this?
The
all
25
property,
scattered
site
properties
have
a
mortgage
on
them
and
then
it's
the
cat.
It's
a
cash
flow
repayment
based
on
how
all
25
units
do,
or
is
this
not
related
to
the
14
units
that
are
requesting
funding?
Will
the
mortgages
and
the
cash
flow
payments
be
tied
to
those
particular
units.
J
P
J
Yeah
there'll
be
definitions
of
cash
flow
that
the
investor
and
the
other
lenders
will
all
sort
of
hash
out.
You
know
and
it'll
all
be
documented
and
who
gets
what
percentage
of
cash
flow
and
and
yes,
because
they're
they're
thinking
about
selling
them
to
the
individuals.
You
know
that
will
all
be
addressed
in
the
legal
documents
as
well.
M
Right
and
mark
just
to
further
clarify
the
the
building.
It's
not
we
don't
just
get
the
cash
flow
from
the
units
that
are
funded
by
the
href,
we're
viewing
it
as
the
overall
cash
flow
of
the
project,
as
if
it
was
a
25
unit
apartment
building.
Where
some
were
market
rate.
Those
market
rates
would
help
to.
You
know
up
the
cash
flow
payment
that
we're
receiving
on
an
annual
basis.
O
If
I,
if
I
could
just
add,
make
sure
it's
clarified
units
year
15,
if
the
tenant
decides
they
do
not
wish
to
purchase
the
unit
which
must
be
affordable,
60
area
median
income,
we
do
not
force
them
to
move
or
relocate.
They
can
remain
in
the
unit
as
a
rental
unit.
You
know
we
hope
our
intent
is
that
all
of
the
units
become
home
ownership,
that's
affordable
to
60
ami,
but
we
legally
cannot
evict
or
remove
or
relocate
anybody
in
that
unit
without.
L
M
Right,
which
is
why
we
have
the
40-year
affordability
term
in
a
40-year
term
on
the
loan,
because
it's
very
possible
that
some
of
these
remain
rental
like
throughout
that
40
years
or
I
don't
know
about
very
possible.
But
it
is
a
possibility
so
we're
covering
for
that
with
how
we're
structuring
the
loan.
C
I
have
a
question,
so
is
it
15
years
of
the
tenant
being
there
or
15
years
of
the
how
of
the
unit
right?
So
if,
like
one
ten
is
there
for
five
years,
another
tenant
comes
in,
for
you
know
whatever
and
the
tenant.
That's
there
for
two
years,
like
I
mean,
could
you
help
me
understand
that
process
or
just
15
years
is
they
can
be
bought.
O
O
If
it's,
you
know
kind
of
the
luck
of
the
draw
whoever's
there
in
year.
15
has
the
option
to
purchase.
If
they've
lived
there
for
10
years,
they
get
no
different
deal
than
the
person
who's
lived
there
for
one
year.
Some
lease
purchase
projects
allow
rent
to
be
used
as
equity
towards
down
payment
of
the
house.
We've
not
structured
it
like
that.
In
our
research
we
found
there's
been
some
problems
where
someone
has
lived.
O
J
That,
if
is
there
any
other
questions,
if
not
I'll
pass
it
back
over
to
kelly
to
move
for
a
motion
actually.
R
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment.
I
I
want
to
commend
bgc
and
gatesburg
development
on
this
project.
We've
been
looking
at
the
chn
model
for
a
while
at
action
housing.
It's
been
hugely
successful,
they've
created
hundreds
of
opportunities
for
homeownership
in
cleveland
and
I'd
encourage
you
guys
all
to
check
it
out,
and
I
love
that
it's
in
pittsburgh
and
I
love
what
you
guys
are
doing.
R
So
I
I'm
just
I
didn't
know
this
project
was
using
that
model
and
it
like
tech
projects,
are
hard
and
the
transition
to
how
much
it
makes
it
even
more
complicated.
So
thank
you
for
taking
this
on
and
yeah.
I
think
it's
great.
A
Adrian
from
voting
on,
okay,
we've
got
sonia.
This
is.
F
A
Rgp
lena.
F
A
Wrong:
okay,
good
thing:
we
got
a
lot
of
folks
here
today,
we've
got
mark,
were
you
abstaining
as
well.
P
I
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
540
000
dollars
in
rental
gap,
loan
funds
at
zero
percent
interest,
40-year
term-
or
I
guess
I
yeah
term,
but-
and
that
it
would
go
towards
three
units
at
or
below
30
percent,
ami
and
11
units
at
or
below
50
percent.
Ami.
And,
to
note
this,
I
guess
we
need
to
waive
the
guidelines
on
the
11
units
from
30
to
30
32
000
727.
H
D
G
A
Which
actually
kind
of
is
an
excellent
segue
into
the
next
part
of
the
agenda,
which
is
some
administrative
items
for
the
advisory
board
before
we
get
into
additional
committees,
some
of
which
I
have
some
ideas
around
committees
that
actually
address
some
of
the
issues
and
really
think
and
think
that
were
really
exciting
about
this
particular
project
and
kind
of
how
we
can
maybe
institutionalize
some
of
them.
But
before
that,
I
wanted
to
double
back
to
the
rfp
process
that
we've
talked
about
before
and
get
that
officially
voted
on.
A
That's
something
we've
discussed
in
the
past
surrounding
being
able
to
look
at
projects
in
kind
of
in
batches
so
that
we're
comparing
apples
to
other
apples
and
perhaps
extracting
I
don't
want
to
say
extracting
but
kind
of
maximizing
our
our
dollars
as
a
operator
as
the
hoff,
so
that
we
can.
We
can
see
all
the
cool,
really
cool
things
that
we're
able
to
get
for
our
540
000
here,
as
it
relates
to
this
particular
project,
but
then
the
next
project
that
comes
next
month.
A
Perhaps
we
don't
get
those
same
benefits
for
the
community
out
of
because
it's
the
only
one
at
that
time
so
that
we
can
really
kind
of
look
at
things
at
the
same
time
and
really
make
sure
we're
getting
the
best
bang
for
our
buck
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
doing
in
the
past.
A
And
so
I
wanted
to
see
if
that's
something
that
everybody
wanted
to
move
forward
with,
and
then
what
kind
of
schedule,
if
we
wanted
to
look
towards
doing
that,
so
that
we're
reviewing
things
in
batches
quarterly
or
twice
a
year,
because
I
do
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
makes
the
hof
great
is
that
we're
able
to
move
fairly
quickly
as
it
relates
to
other
application
processes.
A
N
Like
this
is
adrian-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
would
help
in
this
particular
discussion
is,
if
we
again,
as
a
committee
group,
we're
planning
more
specifically
towards
the
types
of
projects
that
we
wanted
to
entertain.
There's
always
going
to
be
projects
that
are
coming
through
every
project
is
valuable,
but
does
the
hof
globally
have
targets
that
we
want
to
hit
or
those
geographic
targets
are
those
the
type
of
tenant
or
homeowner
that
we
want
to
target
for
funds
it?
It
becomes
difficult,
as
you
said,
we're,
never
we're.
N
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
makes
it
difficult
when
projects
come
in
one
at
a
time,
it's
hard
to
you
know
have
that
more
global
conversation
of
running
this
through
a
variety
of
factors
and
saying
that
you
know
this
is
a
great
project,
but
we
would
really
like
to
see
these
types
of
outcomes
in
all
of
our
projects.
You
know
we
really
have
a
target
as
the
hof
that
we're
going
to
achieve
this
this
year,
so
I
would
just
say
in
any
kind
of
conversation
that
we
continue
to
have
going
forward.
A
And
I
agree
I
wanted
to
maybe
I'm
going
out
of
order,
but
I
wanted
to
start
there
and
then
the
next
thing
would
be
to
create
a
task
force
that
worked
on
what
that
process
or
what
that
application
would
look
like.
I
also
have
a
list
of
suggested
committees
that
kind
of
dive
into
those
different
areas
who
would
then
funnel
their
suggestions
to
that
task
force.
A
So
perhaps
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
starting
at
the
beginning
or
the
end,
sometimes
sometimes
I'm
too
far
out
and
working
on,
you
know
getting
that
right
balance,
but
that
is
sort
of
the
the
goal
here.
One
of
the
reasons
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
rfp
or
what
that
application
might
look
like,
is
we're
going
to
run
out
of
2020
rgp
funds
in
may.
A
So
that's
an
excellent
opportunity
to
shift
as
we
get
into
2021
funds
to
whatever
that
new
process
is
going
to
look
like
and
then,
but
then
there's
some
urgency
about
that
right
is
that
we
would
have
until
the
ura's
meeting
is
may
13th.
So,
if
there's
anything
that
they
would
need
to
review
or
formalize,
we
would
have
to
have
that
voted
on
in
our
may
6th
meeting.
So
these
are
all
the
things
that
I'm
kind
of
thinking
about.
A
So,
whichever
order
we
want
to
discuss
that
if
we
want
to
talk
about
the
list
of
potential
committees
or
whether
or
not
we
want
to
move
towards
this
process,
that's
for
lack
of
a
better
term
a
little
bit
more
competitive
in
terms
of
what
we're
getting
in
terms
of
community
outcomes,
of
course,
being
able
to
establish
what
those
outcomes
are
right
that
we're
looking
to
get
so
it's
not
and
it's
been
it
being
codified
on
a
chart
somewhere
rather
than
I'm
pandering
to
adrian,
because
I
know
that
she,
you
know,
has
worked
in
the
whole.
A
You
know
in
communities
of
unstably
house
people,
so
she'll
really
like
it.
If
I
do
this
versus
you
know,
or
whatever
joey
jones
are
just
general
thoughts,
so
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
group.
I've
talked
a
lot.
Q
So
this
is
derek,
so
yeah.
I
think
this
is
there's
some
some
good
components
about
this
thought.
I
do
think
that
every
project
should
meet
a
certain
bar,
so
we
should
be
looking
to
kind
of
establish
certain
outcomes.
However,
I
want
to
caution
us
because
you
know
development
is
very
nuanced.
Q
It's
all
about
timing,
and
you
know
our
timing
may
not
line
up
with
the
timing
of
you
know
the
tax
credit
process,
for
example,
and
the
the
nine
percent
tax
credit
process.
It
is
more
solidified.
However,
it's
been
changing,
you
know,
so
we
we
could
actually
cause
more
of
a
disruption
than
a
help.
That's
why
this
is
a
this
is
a
larger
discussion
and
then
the
four
percent
tax
credit
process
is
it's
basically
more
of
a
rolling.
Q
It
has
a
more
fluid
schedule
and
reason
why
so
that's
one
caution.
The
other
caution
is,
you
know,
I
think
it's
more.
We
should
think
about.
Does
it
hit
this
metric,
you
know,
does
it
include
fair
housing
etc?
Because
the
other
thing
is
what
we
don't
want
to
do.
Is
you
know
we?
We
approve
these
three
projects
and
you
know
these
other
three
actually
get
tax
credits,
but
this
source
is
very
critical
to
filling
a
gap,
and
you
know
the
majority
of
the
funds
are
going
to
come
from
the
tax
credits.
Q
This
is
really
the
gap
filler,
but
the
projects
we
approved
didn't
receive
the
tax
credit,
so
they
can't
go
anywhere
anyway.
So
we're
in
a
situation
where
none
of
the
projects
actually
move
forward
because
we're
you
know
approving
these
three
and
then
these
other
three
actually
got
tax
credits,
so
so
really
needs
to
be
more
of
a
marriage
of
the
two.
So
it's
a
larger
discussion,
but
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
it
in
a
sense
of
you
know,
does
do
these
projects
meet
our
standards.
Q
You
know
what
I
mean
so
just
want
to
kind
of
put
that
in
everyone's
head.
I
think
it's
a
larger
discussion
that
we
have
to
look
at
all
of
these
these
things,
but
but
that
that's
a
that
could
very
well
be
the
case
and
and
that
will
really
be
the
worst
scenario
so
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the.
P
Table
I
I
just
have
two
general
comments.
One
about
you
know,
there's
some
legislative
things
that
we
need
to
hit
about
the
funding
going
equally
to
online
council
districts
and
that's
an
overall
so
but
but
I
also
think
it's
something
that
you
might.
We
might
want
to
keep
in
mind,
because
that
is
something
that
is
in
the
enabling
legislation
for
the
off.
P
And
the
second
point
is
that
we
might
have
a
starting
point
already,
because
I
believe
the
ura
staff
had
developed
a
scoring
sheet
now,
whether
we
like
that
or
not
is
you
know,
is
you
know
that
might
be
that,
but
at
least
we
might
have
a
starting
point
to
see
how
a
scoring
criteria
might
work
or
some
factors
that
we
might
want
to
look
at,
including
because
some
of
the
early
projects
for
folks
that
weren't
members
and
we
had
that
scoring
seat
that
was
presented,
and
then
it
was
just
we've
gotten
away
from
that,
because
they've
not
been
done
in
a
competitive.
J
Well,
just
real
fast
from
a
staff
perspective
and
responsible,
derek
and
mark
I
mean
you
know:
derek
is
correct
that
that
you
know,
and
some
respects
were
kind
of
kind
of
reflective
of
what
gets
funded
by
phfa
and
the
nine
percent
credits,
and
also
to
four
percent
credits.
The
reason
kelly
at
the
beginning
said
you
know
we're
probably
in
may
or
june
we
run
out
of
money
is
today's
action
for
garfield
was
the
second
action
out
of
the
2020
funding.
Last
month
you
saw
the
north
side
project
as
well.
J
Those
are
both
nine
percent
tax
credit
deals
that
got
awarded
in
july
there.
There
are
three
others
that
got
awarded
in
july,
that
that
will
be
coming
in
front
of
you
in
april
and
may,
which
will
probably
come
closer,
if
not
fully
expend
the
2020
allocation,
and
that
is
because
they
were
already
awarded
by
phfa
to
derek's
point.
So
so
we
need
to
kind
of
move
those
through
and
and
then
to
mark's
point
yeah.
J
We
we
have
the
scoring
you
know
set
up,
and-
and
yes
because
you
know
to
a
certain
extent,
we
we
are
being
you.
J
To
phfa
and
etc,
we
haven't
really
relied
on
the
scoring
too
much,
but
we
can
bring
the
scoring
back
out.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
those
those
two
points
in
so.
K
I
know
that's
what's
in
the
legislation,
but
when
we
consider
that
okay,
that's
still
area
median
income,
black
median
income,
half
is
already
at
50
of
that,
so
half
of
all
black
people
are
under
50
ami,
and
so
what
we're
seeing
still
with
the
projects
that
we
have
we're
still
stabilizing
a
lot
of
housing
for
white
folks,
and
we
see
the
houses,
the
ownership
that
we
produce,
you
know
and
they
everybody
needs
a
place
to
live,
but
if
our
target
is
making
sure
that
we
don't
continue
to
reproduce
the
processes
that
are
pushing
black
people
out
of
the
city
and
I
think
we're
missing
the
mark.
K
Homewood
the
hill
district
hazelwood.
When
you
see
the
numbers
come
out
of
the
new
census,
those
three
communities
where
we
put
the
most
attention
have
seen
the
most
families
leaving
in
the
last
10
years,
and
if
we're
not
talking
about
how
do
we
stop
that?
What
are
we
deliberately
doing?
Are
these
the
right
targets?
Is
this
the
right
way
of
thinking
about
how
we're
doing
this
work
and
if
I
don't
know,
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
that.
I
know
it's
not.
A
Well,
I
think
we'd
venture
to
say
better
than
okay,
but
we
got
us,
but
we
gotta
start
somewhere
right
right.
So
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
point
is
to
be
more
intentional
in
what
we're
doing
through
buckets
that
converge
on
whatever
those
metrics
are
going
to
look
like,
so
that
we're
advancing
that
systemically
in
our
programs.
Q
And
for
me,
that's
where
the
fair
housing
you
know,
conversation
really
comes
in
to
really
layer
that
one
as
a
key
metric
and
really
a
key
driver
for
how
decisions
are
made.
So
you
know
it
is.
Is
it
hitting
this?
Is
it
hitting
this
mark,
but
but
I
think
that
that's
a
key
component,
and
not
just
for
rental
gap
really
for
all
the
programs.
N
And
I
think
it
would
be
interesting.
You
know
we've
gotten
some
great
data
from
the
ura
of
who's
applied
and
who's
utilized
programs,
but
we
don't
know
why.
So
to
jameel's
point.
You
know
why
are
certain
folks
utilizing
the
programs?
Why
are
certain
folks
not
utilizing
the
programs?
I
think
that
conversation
has
really
ignited
a
lot
in
the
hsp.
N
You
know
who,
who
are
we
actually
hitting,
and
why
are
there
barriers
specifically
for
different
programs
for
different
groups
and
we're
not
seeing
folks
flowing
into
this
process?
So
even
with
our
project,
like
we
talked
about
this
morning
with
bloomfield
garfield,
you
know
they
have
a
huge
waiting
list.
N
A
I
would
think
that
could
that
the
outreach
committee
could
perhaps
be
a
two-way
street
to
bring
that
information
to
the
hof
and
then
get
information
out.
I
did
also
want
to
say
that
I
did
have
another
suggested
committee
that
we
talked
about,
but
it's
not
on
the
list,
which
is
a
community
ownership
and
wealth
building
opportunity,
so
that
there's
some
some
you
know,
discuss
ways
that
there's
a
degree
of
ongoing
community
ownership
and
or
tenant
ownership.
A
Those
sorts
of
things
that
we've
talked
about
before,
exploring
that
in
a
little
bit
more
of
a
nuanced
and
intentional
way.
Again.
These
are
all
suggestions
we
have
to
vote
on
them,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
that
that's
in
my
notes,
but
not.
A
Or
if
we
want
to
move
towards
some
other
method
of
kind
of
to
get,
you
know
a
biblical
ref.
You
know
separate
the
wheat
from
the
shaft
as
it
relates
to
our
you
know:
applicants
and
applications
that
are
coming
through
and
prioritize.
A
A
I
did
I
miss
anything
and
then
we'll
also
need
to
populate
those
with
members
of
the
hoff
and
then
next
add
on
any
ex-officio
members,
because
the
way
our
bylaws
are
written,
we
can't
be
a
member
of
a
committee
if
you're
not
on
the,
if
you're,
not
an
advisory
board
member,
but
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
there's
expertise
in
the
housing
community
in
the
housing
justice
community
developer
community.
That
is
not
around
this
table
that
we
would
like
to
engage
with
on
these
different
subject
areas.
A
So
multiple
steps
ratifying
these
committees
at
if
these
are
the
right
ones,
taking
anything
off,
adding
anything
we
need
signing
up
for
committees
and
then
a
list
of
nominations
for
folks
for
various
committees
that
we
can
vote
on
some
today
and
then
throughout
the
next
month.
A
Whatever
any
additions
that
people
have,
we
can
vote
to
add
them
on
in
april,
but
kind
of
with
a
guide
of
an
idea
of
being
able
to
kind
of
move
this
along
quickly
through
the
spring,
so
that,
as
we
get
into
2021
money,
we're
spending
that,
in
a
more
thoughtful
and
strategic
way
that
advances
our
actual
goals.
H
I
kind
of
see
a
lot
of
this
coming
under
the
fair
housing
committee's
recommendations.
You
know
which
committees
to
create-
and
you
know
the
goals
to
be
achieved
by
those
committees
a
lot
all
a
lot.
If
not
all
of
these
committees
are
tied
in
with
fair
housing
goals.
H
In
my
mind,
not
that
there's
not
other
things
that
can
be
achieved
by
reviewing
the
rfp,
but
I
know
that
that's
one
of
the
significant
most
significant
gaps
so
so
so
I
would
recommend
you
know
getting
the
fair
housing
committee
going
and
then
having
recommendations
come
out
of
theirs.
Regarding
these
other
committees,.
Q
I
would
agree
with
that.
Definitely
also.
I
just
have
a
question
about
the
sustainability
committee,
just
what
you
were
thinking
like
sustainability
in
the
context
of
green
or
sustainability
in
the
context
of
you
know,
folks
not
not
having
to
continue
to
come.
You
know
to
get
resources,
you
know
every
few
months.
Q
So
if
you
can
speak
on
that
and
then
just
going
back
to
what
I
what
I
said
earlier
originally,
I
thought
the
rfp
idea
was
a
good
idea,
but
as
I
really
thought
more
about
the
nuance,
you
know
and
the
timing
issues
that
that
could
create.
I
think
it's
it's
better
to
focus
on
scoring
and
you
know
kind
of
use
that
as
our
driver
but
question
about
the
sustainability
piece.
A
Rfp
thing
I
just
wanted
to,
I
just
want
us
to
have
a
method
of
comparing
apples
to
other
apples,
rather
than
you
know
catching
us
on
in
a
good
mood,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
you
know
things
that
we're
reviewing
in
that
in
that
quarter
right.
So
yes,
so
so
for
sustainability.
A
I
was
thinking
along
the
lines
of
green
materials
green
building.
If
we
want
to
because
our
ura
money
is
not
federal
money,
I
don't
believe
it
says
anything
about
like
lead
abatement
when
you're
building,
if
or
if
you're
doing
a
rehab,
but
we
know
that
that's
an
issue
in
our
communities
and
we
would
want
to
perhaps
incorporate
something
of
that
nature
or
not
use
whatever.
A
Is
that
something
that
we're,
including
in
our
rfp
process,
that
we're
building
healthy
homes
in
these
communities
is
because
that's
not
something
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
a
few
people
can
take
a
deep
dive
into
and
incorporate
into
our
scoring
metric,
but
maybe
not
everybody,
but
I
was
also
thinking
in
terms
of
some
of
that
not
having
to
come
back
to
get
them
to
get
resources
over
and
over
again
was
part
of
perhaps
that
wealth
building
initiative,
not
just
home
ownership,
because
I
don't
think
you
need
you
shouldn't
have
to
own
your
home
in
order
to
be
stable
and
that's
a
thing
that
drives
me
crazy.
A
When
we
talk
about
is
like
oh
well,
you
know
you
want
to
be
stable.
You
don't
want
to
be
forced
to
move.
You
want
to
be
economically
secure,
buy
a
house
like
no
just
how
about
that's
what
people
should
have
and
that's
how
we
should
operate.
So
I
would
incorporate
that
perhaps
into,
and
we
could
just
make
it
a
slash,
sustainability
and
wealth,
building
economic
stability
and
wealth
voting
initiatives,
and
I
think
perhaps
that
might
be
what
they
were
thinking
when
they
my
bullet
for
sustainability,
about
community
ownership.
A
They
might
have
incorporated
into
a
sustainability
metrics,
because
that
does
sustain
a
community
a
bit
if
they
have
some
ownership
of
of
the
land
and
housing.
N
B
A
A
I
would
be
happy
for
us
to
do
that,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
need
to
be
another
session
in
between
meetings
so
that
things
can
continue
to
move
forward
and
then
we
could
break
into
working
groups
and
or
additional
committees
from
there
based
on
interest
or
tasks,
but
just
to
move
things
forward.
We
can't
do
this
on
a
you
know,
month-to-month
basis,
and
we
can't
form
a
an
official
committee
that
has
this
many
people
on
it.
A
A
Is
important:
let's
talk
about
that
some
more
next
month:
it's
not
a
functional
strategy
to
actually
get
us
where
we
want
to
go
thoughts.
Do
we
want
to
have
a
special
meeting
in
the
next
month
and.
Q
Yes,
I
think
we
do
so,
I'm
not
sure
someone
that'll
be
yourself
or
someone
from
the
ura
will
send
out.
Maybe
a
doodle
call
or
something
to
kind
of
get
that
schedule,
but
also
we
want
to
be
intentional
about
inviting
some.
You.
M
Q
Ex-Officio
members
to
that
conversation
just
for
input.
A
So
that's
the
tricky
part
is:
if
it's
a
committee
meeting,
we
can
invite
ex-official
members.
If
it's
like
a
hop,
I
mean
it's
just.
It
falls
in
a
strange
place
if
we're
setting
our
priorities
as
a
hoff,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
both
at
the
same
time,
I'm
sorry.
P
A
P
Can
we
get
five
folks
that
will
agree
to
come
back
with
some
recommendations
around
fair
housing
and
then
we
can
discuss
those
as
the
advisory
board?
You
know
we've
got
to
vote
on
these
things.
It's
not
like
people
are
going
to
be
shut
out
of
that
process,
but
you
know,
I
think
fair
housing
is
important.
P
You
know
we
should
be
using
that
as
a
lens
that
we
look
at
everything
that
we're
doing,
but
I
don't
need
to
sit
on
that
committee
because
there's
other
really
smart
people
that
are
on
the
hoff
that
that
you
know.
I
trust
that
folks
will
bring
back
some
solid
recommendations
and
I
I'd
expressed
an
interest
in
doing
that,
but
I'm
fine
stepping
back
to.
P
I
don't
think
we
can
afford
to
keep
waiting
every
month
to
not
have
this
conversation
and
if
the
committee
structure
to
get
some
outside
folks
involved
that
are
experts
in
this.
Let's
you
know,
can
we
get
five
folks
that
we.
B
Have
the
five
we
have
six
and
I
would.
A
Also
gonna
offer
to
be
an
ex
officiate
if
that's
what
it
takes
and
or
to
waive,
or
we
could
have
a
motion
to
waive
it
and
take
the
six,
but
I
just
don't
think
we
get
that
we
can
do
something:
that's
not
public
and
also
not
just
us.
I
don't
think
we
can
pick
and.
A
P
Can
we
do
that
and
then
have
you
know
we
can
appoint
ex
officio
to
those
committees
in
excess
of
five
or.
A
J
Just
a
clarification
of
bylaws
you're
correct:
the
committees
can
have
outside
people
meet
with
you,
but
they
they
technically
cannot
be
a
committee
member
right.
L
Okay,
I
agree
with
mark.
I
think
we
should
move
forward
with
the
five
ish
people
who
want
from
the
board,
who
want
to
be
on
the
committee
and
invite
some
local
experts
to
help
inform
the
discussions,
but
that
we
should.
We
should
move
forward
with
that,
rather
than
initially
broadening
to
additional
committees.
A
J
On
page
two
of
the
minutes,
it
says
lena
andrews,
jerome,
jackson,
derek
tillman,
adrian
wanahal
and
megan
winters
volunteered
for
the
committee
and
caliber
seibert,
who
serves
as
the
fair
housing
representative.
You
know
may
also
chair
kelly
that
that's
up
to
you,
how
you
want
to
handle
that.
A
I
think
I
think
it
makes
sense
to.
I
would,
I
think,
perhaps,
if
anybody's
willing
or
interested
could
make
a
motion
to
waive
our
five-person
cap
guidelines
to
have
these
six
people
begin
start
as
our
fair
housing
committee
and
then
just
get
going
and
have
recommendations
from
this
committee
to
the
huff
at
our
april
meeting
so
moved.
B
A
Speaking
of
our
april
meeting,
but
this
is
actually
the
last
item
on
the
agenda.
It
is
the
day
before
good
friday.
I
don't
know
if
that
is
significant
for
anyone
or
if
we
are
look,
we
need
to
move
it
or
if
we
want
to
keep
it.
A
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
vote
on
that
now
or
later,
but
I'm
just
I'm
just
flagging
that
when
I
said
our
april
meeting,
it's
actually
the
first
there's
no
days
before
in
april,
but
also
that
it
is
a
pseudo-holiday
weekend.
A
So
that
april
meeting
is
currently
scheduled
for
april
1st,
which
is
the
day
before
good
friday.
A
But
if
that
date
does
not
work
for
people,
we
should
address
that
now
and
see
and
see
about
moving
that
date.
Is
there
any
discussion,
anybody
need
to
move
it
or
you
came
with
the
female
first.
A
B
A
And
I
believe
that
is
everything
that
I
have
for
our
administrative
items
and
the
ura
staff
with
a
report
on
program
expenditures.
J
A
J
Okay,
so
bettina's
been
working
on
updating
some
of
our
dashboards
for
us,
so
you
can
see
the
down
payment
dashboard
here
and
the
impacts
and
the
fact
that
we
are
all
over
the
city
with
over
1.2
million
dollars
committed
for
down
payment
at
this
point
and
73
committed
of
all
the
funds
we
have
at
this
point
and
101,
first-time
home
buyers
are
between
51
and
80
percent,
and
we
have
another
slide
that
you'll
be
able
to
see
this
a
little
more
clearly.
J
But
the
majority
of
the
people
that
participate
in
the
program
are
less
than
80.
Ami
next
slide
the
homeowner
assistance
program.
So
you
can
see
this
as
well
all
over
the
city.
Of
course.
The
circle
in
the
the
bottom
right
hand
corner
shows
that
the
majority
of
the
folks
109
are
between
30
and
50
ami,
but
there's
also
77
that's
below
30.
J
So
so,
roughly
more
than
three-fourths
of
the
circle
is
underneath
50,
ami
and
95
of
our
total
funding
has
been
committed,
but
for
practical
purposes
really
it's
all
been
committed
to
the
folks
that
are
on
the
waiting
list.
Next
slide.
This
is
the
same
slide.
You
saw
last.
I
J
Of
our
four
cell
developments
and
our
rental
gap
developments
next
slide-
and
this
is
you
know
what
you
see
every
month,
showing
what
has
been
allocated
now.
This
does
not
include
the
2021
funding.
We
do
not
have
that
yet
a
fund
from
the
city
you
know
was
voted
on
by
council
back
in
december,
so
from
2018
through
2020.
J
You
can
see,
you
know
the
funding
we
have
and
what
has
been
closed
and
committed
and
what
has
not
yet
been
committed,
and
it's
just
really
tricky
for
us
to
to
know
how
to
show
this
to
the
one
I
need
to
kind
of
point
out
is
the
hap
that
has
been
committed.
That
1.922
is
to
the
folks
that
are
on
the
waiting
list,
which
is
why
the
the
program
is
temporarily
not
taking
applications.
J
So
if
you
subtract
that
from
the
8.1
there
at
the
bottom,
you
know
we're
at
about
almost
6
million
not
committed,
but
in
the
next
two
months,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
that
3.3
from
the
the
rental
gap
you'll
see
projects
worth
about
that
amount
in
the
next
two
months
as
the
additional
nine
percent
deals
are
presented.
J
You
know,
therefore,
after
that
is
done
between
the
rgp
and
the
hap.
There
will
really
only
be
about
four
and
a
half
to
five
million
not
committed,
and
most
of
that
will
be
related
to
the
the
housing
stabilization
program.
D
J
J
Bettina,
okay,
so
this
is,
you
know
showing
the
the
breakout
of
the
money
based
on
area
median
income
and
how
many
households
we
have
helped
at
each
of
the
area.
Median
incomes,
and
you
can
see
that
counting
the
the
homeless,
shelter
we're
at
74
of
all
the
households,
health
being
at
30
percent,
ami
or
below.
D
J
P
Button
without
that
demonstration
project,
how
what
would
we
you
know,
do
you
guys
have
a
sense
so
or
can
you
give
us
those
percentages
if
we
hadn't
done
that
one
project
where
we
would
be.
J
Yeah,
I'm
just
adding
it
up.
I
I'm
sorry.
We
don't
have
that
handy,
but
just
just
like
adding
up
the
numbers,
we
would
be
at
about
1200
households
at
30
percent,
ami
and
and
we
would
still
be
at
the
732
households
at
50
percent
ami.
So
so
we're
still,
you
know
more
than
well
plus
the
80.
we're
still
more
than
50
percent.
J
Okay,
next
slide,
jeremy
I'll
pass
it
over
to
you
to
do
some
general
announcements,
related
commercial
assistance.
F
F
Then
we
wanted
to
do
a
quick
update
recap
of
the
legal
assistance
programs.
Following
the
february
board
meeting,
we
had
follow-up
discussions
and
it
went
to
the
ur
ray
board
meeting
the
following
week,
where
there
were
some
changes
made
at
the
table
when
before
it
was
approved.
F
So
there
were
two
issues
that
the
advisory
board
approved
the
guidelines
on
and
that
was
looking
at
dual
cause
and
mediation
for
homeowners.
F
Previously
we
had
only
talked
about
expanding
it
for
full
legal
representation,
but
that
has
now
been
expanded
for
all
three
services
to
include
eviction
cases
where
it's
not
specifically
for
non-payment
of
rent.
So
this
will
allow
the
providers
to
help
tenants
who
maybe
the
landlords
are
evicting
under
the
guides
of
something
else,
and
that
the
you
know
we'll
still
be
able
to
help.
F
We
are
giving
the
program
administrators
of
the
legal
program
the
discretion
on
this
with
the
ura's
guidance,
but
in
the
end
this
will
allow
them
to
serve
more
people
and
especially
the
residents
where
it's
not
just
a
non-payment
of
rent
issue.
F
F
So
we
are
not
including
that
at
this
time,
so
those
were
the
two
big
changes.
The
rfp
was
released
and
we
had
two
information
sessions
this
week
and
the
responses
are
due
next
friday.
Q
Jeremy,
I
missed
the
part
at
the
end,
where
you
said
we
did
not
include
something
relative
to
homeowners.
Can
you
repeat
that.
F
Yes,
it
was
mediation
services
for
homeowners.
We
couldn't
find
any
existing
structure
for
that
and
couldn't
get
enough
information
on
what
exactly
that
would
be
and
talking
to
just
mediation
pittsburgh.
They
were
also
confused
on
what
service
this
would
be
so
we're
not
including
it
at
this
time,
but
mediation
would
be
available
for
tenants.
L
I
have
just
a
general
comment,
as
we
talk
about
launching
this
and
doing
the
coordinated
entry
through
two
one
one,
and
this
is
sort
of
picking
up
on
the
public
comment
from
making
con
for
hammond
about,
and
my
my
own
organization's
experience
with
people
who
we've
referred
to.
2-1-1
who've
come
back
to
us
because
they've
had
all
kinds
of
difficulty
getting
through.
L
I
just
want
us
to
be
very,
very
careful
that
that
that
system
is
not
already
overwhelmed
and
that
they're
prepared
for
for
not
just
the
folks
looking
for
assistance
with
eviction
prevention
through
this
legal
assistance
program,
but
to
keep
in
mind
that
they're
also
fielding
people,
for
you
know,
tax
prep
and
for
various
other
services
that
it
feels
like
they're
a
little
bit
overwhelmed,
and
we
just
need
to
be
sure
that
we
don't
get
caught
in
that.
F
Yeah
I'd
like
to
clarify
that
coordinated
entry
for
a
legal
program
is
not
going
through
2-1-1.
That's
why
we're
rfp
and
that
service
out
so
that
there's
a
coordinated
entry
provider
that
has
experience
vetting
legal
assistance
calls.
So
that
would
be
totally
separate
from
the
coordinate
entry
for
hsb.
Okay,
that's.
L
P
Just
to
follow
on
to
that
is
there
a
response.
Is
the
staff
aware
of
the
issues
that
megan
brought
up
at
the
that
there's
appears
to
be,
and
that's
some
things
that
I've
heard
just
anecdotally
with
folks
have
been
referred
through
organizations
that
we
work
with
there's.
F
The
response
from
2-1-1
was
that
they
are,
they
did
increase
their
temporary
staffing
for
the
coveted
vaccine
calls,
and
so
the
call
volume
in
general
has
gone
up
and
there
may
be
some
staff
that
are
not
trained
on
taking
hsp
calls
we're
continuing
to
work
with
them
to
figure
out
how
we
can
support
them
to,
because
we
certainly
don't
want
tenants
or
people
calling
2-1-1
waiting
on
hold
for
an
hour
and
then
not
even
getting
a
referral.
F
So
we
are
constantly
working
with
them
following
up
on
every
situation,
but
that
is
currently
where
things
are
at.
F
J
B
A
B
A
We
need
to,
I
don't
know,
do
we
need
to
I,
I
think,
everybody's
in
favor
of
all
right,
so
the
eyes
have
it.
I
know
there
are
no
objections
and
so.