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A
Good
morning,
everybody
welcome
to
the
february
meeting
of
the
housing
opportunity.
Fund.
Asl
interpretation
is
available,
please
view
and
pin
megan
atkins
video
to
your
screen
to
follow
the
asl
interpretation.
A
We
will
start
with
roll
call.
B
C
B
E
F
G
A
A
Teresa
kel
smith
motion
to
approve
is
there
a
second
second
three
in
seconds
derek?
Second,
all
those
in
favor
hi.
A
A
Okay,
next,
we
usually
do
public
comment
and
we
do
have
seven
or
eight
public
commenters
today,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
people
that
that
do
need
to
leave
the
meeting
early
and
we
have
a
very
long
agenda.
A
So
we're
gonna
go
a
little
bit
out
of
order
today
and
we're
going
to
start
with
an
annual
meeting
to
talk
about
the
nominations
for
a
chair
and
vice
chair
and
then
move
into
a
couple
of
rental
gap,
loans
and
then
halfway
through
the
meeting,
we
will
do
public
comment
because
most
of
the
public
commenters
are
here
to
speak
towards
the
legal
assistance
program
guidelines
which
will
then
be
entertained
in
the
second
half
of
the
meeting.
A
Okay,
so
I
would
like
to
pass
this
part.
A
meeting
over
to
diamante,
walk
walker,
who
is
the
chair
should
know
her
last
name,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
nominating
committee
deamonte.
I
Good
morning
and
thank
you
jessica,
so
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
board
for
allowing
me
the
pleasure
of
serving
as
the
nominating
chair,
a
nominating
committee
chair,
I'd
like
to
thank
my
fellow
nominating
committee
members
who
have
worked
tires
tirelessly
to
be
thoughtful
in
their
deliberations
around.
Who
should
be
the
inaugural
chair
and
vice
chair
of
this
advisory
board
and
so
of
those
nominating
committee.
Members
are
lena
andrews
knowledge,
bill,
hudson,
sonia
tillman
and
megan
winters,
and
so
the
the
nominating
committee.
I
I
had
two
deliberative
sessions
to
review
submissions
from
candidates
interested
in
serving
as
chair
and
or
vice
chair.
I
At
the
previous
meeting,
I
did
agree
to
to
provide
a
full
accounting
of
all
of
the
nominations,
both
self
nominees
and
those
nominated
by
others,
and
so
for
the
record
that
full
accounting
would
be
joanna
deming,
who
was
nominated,
I
believe
by
jerome
jackson
for
chair,
derek
tillman,
who
was
nominated
by
himself
nominated
to
serve
as
chair
and
kelly
ware
cebron,
who
nominated
herself
to
serve
as
chair
or
vice
chair
in
response
to
that
joanna,
did
notify
the
nominating
committee
and
the
advisory
board
that
she
was
withdrawing
her
nomination
and
fully
endorsed
kelly
and
derek
as
sir
to
serve
as
chair
or
vice
chair
in
the
in
this,
in
the
result
of
her
abdication
from
the
nominating
process.
I
And
so
it
is
with
great
pleasure
that
I
present
to
you
today
the
the
the
recommendations
of
the
nominating
committee.
I
do
want
to
state
that
both
applicants
put
forth
an
outstanding
application
and
it
spoke
to
their
dedication
and
commitment
to
the
housing
opportunity
fund.
So
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
had
such
wonderful
candidates
to
to
evaluate,
and
we
believe
that
this
advisory
board
will
be
served
by
their
extensive
experience
and
the
knowledge
that
they
hold
in
their
respective
fields
and
so
upon
review
of
the
application.
We
are
recommending.
I
The
nomination
of
care
kelly
ware
sebron
for
chair
of
the
housing
opportunity,
fund
advisory
board
kelly
currently
holds
the
fair
housing
seat,
and
it
was
very
important
to
this
nominating
committee
that
the
inaugural
chair
bring
the
rigor
of
that
equity
lens
and
that
fair
housing
lens
to
the
table
in
order
to
help
us
to
achieve
our
policy
and
programmatic
goals.
So
if
you
are
familiar
familiar
with
kelly's
work,
both
in
the
nonprofit
and
public
sector,
you
know
that
this
this
is.
I
I
Her
expertise,
both
professionally
in
her
role
as
the
fair
housing
representative,
has
demonstrated
that
she
has
the
leadership
capability
that
is
necessary
to
incorporate
those
fair
housing
goals
into
the
way
that
we
conduct
our
business
in
the
way
that
we
make
our
decisions,
and
so
secondly,
derrick
tillman
was
also
nominate,
nominated
himself
for
the
chairman
position,
and
I
want
to
be
very
transparent
here
and
say
that
the
nominating
committee
was
somewhat
reticent
about
the
role
of
a
developer
as
in
the
chair
role,
and
you
know
and
talked
about
you
know
is
that
is
that
best
suited
for
for
the
advisory
board,
given
its
charge
to
really
focus
on,
like,
I
said,
equity
and
fair
housing
and
that
being
the
goal.
I
However,
upon
review
of
mr
tillman's
application,
it
became
very
clear
as
to
why
he
serves
as
the
affordable
housing
for-profit
developer
representative
on
this
advisory
board,
his
personal
history,
the
fact
that
he
is
a
socially
responsible
developer,
who
brings
both
that
lived
experience
and
that
breadth
of
knowledge
around
how
to
do
high
quality,
affordable
housing.
I
It
was
very
clear
to
us
that
he
would
serve
this
advisory
board
well
in
an
advisor
in
an
officership
role,
and
so
he
did
an
exemplary
job
talking
about
and
laying
there
being
very
transparent
about
conflicts
that
might
arise
in
his
role
as
the
chair
and
that
integrity
and
that
and
that
forthrightness
is
what
you
know
led
us
to
to
believe
that
he
will
demonstrate
the
capacity
that
is
necessary
to
serve
as
the
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
board's.
I
Vice
chair
kelly,
bringing
the
fair
housing
emphasis
and
derek
bringing
the
development
emphasis
both
for
which
a
confluence
of
the
work
that
we
do
so
I'd
like
to
extend,
on
behalf
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund,
nominating
committee,
the
highest
recommendation
to
kelly,
where
c
brawn
as
our
inaugural
chair
and
to
derrick
tillman,
as
our
vice
chair
with
that
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
for
question
and
response
and
jessica.
I
am
prepared
to
make
a
formal
motion
today.
J
Teresa
kellsmith,
I
just
I'm
happy
to
hear
about
the
nominees,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
as
well
and
thank
diamante
for
her
work.
I
think
this
is
a
great
pair
and
I
think
that
it
makes
me
feel
good
to
know
that
there's
somebody
with
less
of
a
interest
where
they'd
have
to
abstain
on
votes
as
the
chair.
So
I
think
that
that
kelly
and
I
see
I've
seen
kelly's
work.
I
know
she's
amazing
and
I
know
derek-
and
I
think
he's
amazing.
So
I
think
this
is
an
awesome
team.
I
All
else,
well
with
that,
I
want
to
again
thank
the
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
board
for
allowing
me
to
serve
as
chair
of
the
nominating
committee,
I'd
like
to
thank
kelly
and
derek
for
the
thoughtful
proposals
that
were
put
forward.
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
in
this
new
capacity
and
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
kelly
ware
sebron
as
the
inaugural
chair
of
the
advisory
board,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
need
to
pause
to
do
derek,
but
I'll
pause
there
for
for
you
to
issue
a
second
second.
I
Secondly,
I'd
like
to
advance
a
motion
to
nominate
derek
tillman
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
housing
opportunity,
fund
advisory
board.
A
Jerome
seconded
all
those
in
favor
aye,
anyone
pose
or
abstain.
Okay
motion
carries
congratulations,
kelly
and
derek,
and
thank
you
diamante
and
the
nominating
committee.
L
Just
a
quick
note:
some
of
the
captions
have
content
that
isn't
quite
what's
happening
in
the
meeting,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
those
captions
are
going
to
be
used
now
and
forward,
but
some
of
the
content
is
not
matching
our
conversation,
so
I
just
whoever's
technically
in
charge
of
those
captions.
There
was
a
quite
an
odd
comment
that
popped
up.
While
we
were
doing
our
vote
so
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There.
A
Sure
I
will
say
you
see
the
captions
today
for
the
first
time,
because
the
city
is
now
filming
this,
not
just
on
the
youtube
but
also
directly
onto
the
city
channel,
it's
my
understanding.
Other
than
that.
I
can't
speak
towards
the
captions.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
the
city
can
I
I
heard
that
they
are
generally
about
85
percent,
correct.
A
Okay,
moving
on
so
I
put
this
on
here
because
several
people
had
expressed
desire
that
once
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair
was
selected
that
that
committee
structures
start
to
form
and
one
of
the
committees
that
people
had
requested
was
a
fair
housing
committee.
Now
I
our
new
chair
kelly.
A
Where
is
he
brendan
and
I
won't
throw
the
rest
of
the
meeting
on
you
kelly?
We
will
we
will
start
talking
next
month
and
you
can
start
sharing
the
meetings
next
month,
but
but
she
is
the
fair
housing
person
and
kelly.
I
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
set
up
a
fair
housing
committee
and
see
if
there's
anyone
that
is
interested
in
serving
or
if
you
would
like
to
wait
till
next
month,
it's
up
to
you.
H
I'd
absolutely
be
interested
in
accepting
names
so
that
we
can,
perhaps
you
know,
see
if
there's
a
possibility
of
meeting
in
the
next
months.
We
can
really
get
the
ball
rolling
on
that
perspective,
development
waits
for
nobody.
So
I
don't
think.
G
A
Well,
okay,
I'm
hearing
a
lot.
We
try
to
keep
the
committees
closely
roughly
to
five.
Just
just
I
will
tell
you
the
people,
I
think
they
yelled
out
and
please
correct
me
here.
I
think
I
saw
derek
and
lina
and
jerome.
K
A
A
A
F
A
I'm
good
okay,
so
so
I
think
we
have.
We
have
the
team
if,
if
I'll
say
this
to
this
one
more
time,
adrian
jerome
megan
kelly
of
course's,
chair,
derek
and
there
was
one
other
person
shouted
out.
Thank
you.
B
F
I
A
M
I
was
thinking
if
there's
a
way
to,
I
think
all
of
us
are
quite
interested.
You
know
if
there
was
like
a
special
session
where
everyone
could
provide
input,
or
you
know
be
a
part
of
it.
That
would
be
a
way
for
more
of
us
to
get
engaged
on
it
and
then,
if
some
people
want
to
dive
deep
and
kind
of
prepare
for
that
and
follow
up.
A
Okay,
why
don't
kelly-
and
I
talk
about
it
afterwards
and
we'll
figure
it
out
and
and
get
to
that
team
of
people
and
make
an
announcement
next
month.
E
Yeah,
you
do
need
a
motion
in
order
to
form
a
working
group
or
like
a
subcommittee
and
then
the
way
the
bylaws
are
written.
Just
to
be
clear
is
that
it
says
the
theory
board
chair
should
not
serve
as
a
committee
chair
should
not
is
not
a
a
hard
cap.
It's
not
a
shall
not
so
it's
certainly
flexible
enough
if
kelly
wants
to
serve
as
chair
of
the
working
group.
It
is,
however,
explicit
about
a
five-member
cap.
E
So
if
you
wanted
to
do
more
than
five
members
in
the
working
group,
you
would
have
to
motion
to
like
make
an
exception
to
the
bylaws.
So.
A
Okay,
so
sonia
made
a
motion
to
create
the
fair
housing
committee
diamante
seconds,
all
those
in
favor.
B
A
Motion
carries
thank
you,
okay,
so
kelly,
and
I
will
talk
over
the
next
month,
we'll
figure
out
the
you
know
how
to
how
to
handle
the
logistics
of
it
and
make
a
report
back.
A
Okay,
update
on
the
coronavirus
relief
fund,
rental
assistance
program,
so,
as
a
lot
of
you
know,
read
in
the
paper
through
the
coronavirus
relief
fund,
which
was
implemented,
I
guess
in
late
december,
early
january,
through
the
federal
government,
a
lot
of
money
is
coming
through
the
u.s
treasury
for
rental
assistance.
I
will
pass
it
over
to
jeremy
to
describe
this
program
more.
It
is
not
directly
related
to
hof,
however,
because
our
funding
also
touches
rental
assistance.
We
felt
it
was
important
to
give
a
brief
update
on
this
jeremy.
D
Thanks
jessica,
so,
as
everyone
probably
knows,
there
was
a
allocation
for
additional
rental
assistance
that
came
out
of
the
treasury.
In
this
last
stimulus
bill,
the
county
received
about
27
million,
the
ura
received
just
under
9
million
dollars
for
rental
assistance.
D
This
time
around,
we
wanted
to
be
strategic
and
coordinate
with
the
county
to
ensure
that
there
is
just
one
program
that
both
city
and
county
residents
will
access,
and
so
you
know
this
time
around.
We
are
essentially
kind
of
funneling
this
this
allocation
to
the
county
so
that
they
can
operate
it
through
their
existing
program.
D
A
Thank
you,
jeremy,
so
so
yeah,
so
the
city
will
will
contract
directly
with
the
county
who's
working
with
action
housing
on
this
on
this
endeavor.
But
I
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
quick
things
here,
so
you
see
that
you
see
that
the
8.9
almost
9
million
number
for
city
residents
that
is
coming
directly
from
the
treasury.
However,
the
state
of
pennsylvania
also
received
a
very
large
allocation
and
it
is
anticipated
that
more
money
is
to
come
through
this
state.
A
Additionally,
you
know,
as
we
all
know,
under
our
new
president
biden,
that
there
is
also
you
know,
additional
potential
stimulus
packages
coming
that
that
may
or
most
likely
will
include
rental
assistance.
So
we
do
see
a
very
large.
You
know
flow
of
funds
coming
for
rental
assistance,
the
program
parameters
and
everything
will
be
worked
out,
but
but
the
program
is
set
up
so
that
people
will
be
able
to
receive
the
rental
assistance
for
a
series
of
months.
A
So
so
we
thought
it
was
important
to
update
the
committee
on
that.
Are
there
any
questions.
N
Are
you
going
to
be?
Is
there
a
possibility,
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
city
and
the
county
are
kind
of
working
together,
because
I
just
you
know
how
you
try
to
manage
that
you
know
if
somebody's
in
wilkinsburg
and
filing
for
assistance
and
thinks
that
they're
filing
at
the
ura
and
and
vice
versa,
more
and
more
likely
would
be
somebody
just
knowing
about
the
county
program
and
not
realizing
that
that
you
are
the
city
was
doing
something
so
that
that's
great
to
see.
N
I
think
I
guess
we'll
see
how
it
works
and
with
the
with
the
additional
state
and
federal
money,
so
you'd
also
talk
into
the
county
about
potential
collaboration.
A
N
J
A
The
federal
government
is
restricting
the
the
program
income
on
this.
I
think
it's
jeremy
is
it
ten
percent
yeah.
A
Admin
admin
for
ten
percent-
president
kell
smith
and-
and
I
do
not
know
that
the
the
details
between
the
county
in
action,
but
but
I
I
have
heard
that,
because
action
is
the
one
hiring
a
lot
of
the
people
to
run
the
program
that
that
a
portion
of
that
at
least,
is
going
to
action.
H
D
Neither
so
it'll
be
through
action,
housing
and
dhs's
system,
which
is,
I
think,
like
cohortrelief.alleghenycounty.u
it'll,
be
an
online
platform
where
people
can
apply.
Okay
watch
the
updates
on
their
applications,
and
so
it's
not
live
yet.
But
people
can
go
to
that
website
and
sign
up
for
alerts
for
when
the
program
does
go,
live.
H
And
I'm
sorry,
I
know
it's
not
our
program,
but
do
we
know
if
there's
going
to
be
an
analog
version
because
sometimes
internet
only
platforms
don't
reach
our
most
needy.
D
They
are
working
with
a
couple
of
community-based
organizations
to
try
and
bridge
the
digital
divide,
but
I
don't
know
the
specifics
on
what
their
plan
is.
G
For
clarity,
a
resident
can
apply
to
either
the
hof
for
rental
assistance
or
through
the
county.
Is
that
correct.
D
They
may
apply
to
both,
but
they
can
only
use
one
source
per.
You
know
at
eligible
costs,
so
they
could
apply
for
both,
but
they
just
can't
use
both
programs
for
the
same
rent
for
february,
for
example,
right
now,.
A
N
Jeremy,
this
is
mark.
Do
you
know
if
they're
going
to
avoid
the
pitfalls
of
the
with
the
stuff
that
was
tied
to
the
state
monies
that
were
available
through
phfa,
where
you
had
to
get
folks
to
to?
You
know,
get
documentation
in
the
midst
of
a
housing
crisis
and
you
had
to
get
landlords
to
agree
to
wipe
out
back
rent
and.
D
Yeah,
absolutely
and-
and
you
know,
with
this
being
treasury
instead
of
coming,
you
know
through
another
state
agency,
a
lot
of
those
regulations
have
been
relaxed.
However,
the
big
thing
right
now
is
that
everyone
is
waiting
for
new
guidance
for
the
biden
administration,
because
the
guidance
the
last
administration
put
out,
I
think,
on
the
last
day
of
the
administration.
D
I
think
people
are
expecting
new
guidance
before
rolling
out
their
programs,
but
there
is
some
hope
in
there,
and
so
you
know
if
people,
if
tenants
apply
for
assistance,
the
landlord
did
not
want
to
take
it
and
the
last
program
there's
nothing
they
could
do
with
this
program.
The
treasury
is
allowing
them
to
issue
the
payment
directly
to
the
tenants
to
pay
the
rent
or
the
bill
if
the
landlord
doesn't
doesn't
respond
or
cooperate.
D
D
Also
mark
is
a
real
relaxed
documentation
requirements
for
income
people
if
they're
filing
tax
returns
for
2020.
They
can
use
that
as
their
income
documentation
for
12
months
instead
of
trying
to
recertify
every
three.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you,
jeremy.
Moving
on
another
quick
update
last
month,
we,
the
advisory
board,
acknowledged
and
accepted
a
line
item
modification
for
additional
2021
hof
funding
coming
from
councilman
o'connor.
A
There
is
a
project
in
councilman,
o'connor's
district
called
flats
on
forward
that
is
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
It
is
a
new
construction
of
an
affordable
housing.
I
think
43
unit
building
in
the
heart
of
squirrel
hill
right
on
a
major
bus
way
close
to
the
public
schools
in
squirrel
hill
and
when
action
housing
purchased
this
site,
they
of
course
paid
squirrel
hill
prices
for
that
site,
and
it
was
a
couple
million
dollar
acquisition
for
the
land.
A
Additionally,
there's
a
road
behind
the
site
that
has
needed
a
lot
of
repair
as
well,
and
really
it's
an
admirable
project
in
the
respect
that,
for
all
the
costs
they
have
incurred,
it
is
all
100,
affordable,
housing
project,
and
so
what
we
are
asking
today
that
the
councilman
o'connor
has
agreed
to
allow
750
000
of
the
funding
that
last
month
was
slated
for
hsp.
A
But
given
the
influx
of
the
funding
coming
in
for
the
coronavis
relief
fund,
the
fact
that
we'll
probably
be
getting
more
from
the
state
and
then
potentially
more
from
a
new
federal
stimulus
package
to
to
move
it
to
the
rental
gap
program
for
the
support
of
the
increased
costs
on
the
flats
on
forward
project
and
we're
going
to
you're
going
to
see
a
presentation
on
on
the
packet
and
the
project
itself.
A
But
and
as
part
of
that
there
there
will
be
with
our
new
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
set
up.
The
the
fair
housing
committee
this
this
month
and
and
with
kelly
now
being
the
chair
and
being
the
fair
housing
seat
is
because
this
project
being
in
squirrel
hill.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
advisory
board
and
the
fair
housing
partnership
has
a
chance
to
help
weigh
in
on
the
metrics
that
developers
should
be
using
to
track
their
marketing
and
and
the
outcomes
of
their
leasing
from
a
fair
housing
perspective
and
action.
Housing
has
agreed
to
do
that
for
this
project.
Next
slide,
bettina,
so
you'll
see
in
the
column
here
this
additional
2021
column,
if
possible.
A
Today
we
need
a
motion,
just
acknowledging
that
that
this
is
the
revised
way
of
using
the
additional
hof
funding
that
has
came,
so
you
can
see
that
that
column
there
in
yellow.
A
Recuse
myself:
yes,
yet
you
do.
I'm
sorry.
Lena
is
recusing
herself
as
a
staff.
Member
of
action,
housing
and-
and
I
guess
you
won't
have
to
others-
won't
need
to
recuse
themselves
from
this
line
item,
but
but
the
future
line
items
the
the
two
next
projects,
the
flats
on
forward
and
the
north
side
properties.
A
F
Have
a
question:
yes,
I
I
understand
that
there's
a
lot
about
this
new
round
of
cares
funding
that
is
unknown,
but
previously
there
was
a
specific
the
guidelines
for
it
accessing
those
funds
were
more
stringent
than
for
hofs.
So
I
guess
I
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
that
moving
these
funds
from
from
the
one
line
item
to
the
other,
makes
it
actually
harder
to
serve.
Some
people
who
can't
get
served
through
cares,
funding.
A
Yeah
I
mean
jeremy
can
probably
elaborate
on
this
more
than
I
can,
but
just
based
on
a
couple
of
the
the
answers
he
gave
to
some
of
the
other
questions.
What
we're
hearing
is
that
it's
actually
more
flexible.
What
one
of
the
biggest
issues
with
the
cares
fund
money
that
came
from
the
state
was
the
determination
of
income,
and
it
was
really
hard
for
for
self-employed
people.
They
seem
to
have
fixed
that
going
through
this.
Additionally,
they
have
allocated
that
it
could
be
up
to
12
months.
A
So
I
actually
you
know
some
of
us
have
the
opposite.
Fear
that
had
that,
because
of
that
you
know,
people
will
want
to
use
that
program
and
we
have
some.
You
know
timelines
associated
with
not
just
the
hof
but
the
cdbg
money,
and
we
almost
have
the
opposite.
Fear
that
that
people
will
will
choose
that
program
and
that
will
be
up
against
some
timeline
commitments.
F
Yeah
I
hear
you,
I
guess
we
won't
really
know
until
the
guidelines
are
out,
but
but
I'm
just
concerned.
N
A
The
need
to
do
it
today
is
because
of
the
the
timing
of
the
closing
of
flats
on
forward
with
its
phfa
closing
schedule.
H
Would
it
be
possible
to
perhaps
just
move
this
later
to
the
agenda
so
that
we
can
hear
more
information
on
flats
on
forward
as
to
whether
or
not
we
want
to
give
it
the
additional
funding
and
and
then
move
it
is
that
I
don't
know
if
that
tracks
sure.
A
I'm
I'm
fine
with
delaying
the
vote
and
moving
on
to
the
packet,
so
you
can
hear
more
about
the
project
and
then
coming
back
to
the
vote.
D
Jessica,
could
I
respond
to
sonia's
question
or
comment
just
to
give
you
an
idea.
We
for
the
hsp
we
have
about
3.9
million
still
available
unspent,
of
that
about
1.9
million
is
non-cdbg
money,
so
we
have
about
2
million
for
people
who
don't
meet
the
cdbg
or
even
the
county
programs,
whether
it's
loss
of
income
requirement
or
something
else.
We
still
have
that
available
as
more
flexible.
M
I'm
a
little
about
the
series
of
events
so
you're
saying
last
month
we
approved
this
funding,
but
we
put
it
in
the
rental
gap
and
now
we'd
like
to-
or
we
put
it
in
the
homeowners,
the
housing
stabilization
and
now
we
want
to
move
it
to
the
rental
gap.
M
A
A
It
was
just
really
brought
more
to
the
ura's
attention
of
of
some
additional
funding
awards,
actually
that
action
housing
did
get,
but
they
they
just
they.
They
received
an
r
cap.
The
r
cap
announcements
just
came
out.
Last
month
they
received
an
r
cap
award
and
looks
like
some
funding
from
dcd,
but
it's
just
not
enough
to
cover
the
gap,
and
so
these
conversations
started
happening
this
past
month.
I
I'd
be
really
interested
to
hear
the
proposal
as
to
why
the
funding
is
necessary
and
I'm
particularly
interested
to
understand
the
housing
composition
of
flats
on
forward
and
a
little
bit
about
the
neighborhood
context.
That
would
be
helpful
to
me.
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
the
packet
then
so
sarah.
F
A
A
I
I
also
from
what
people
have
stated
they're
here
to
speak
on
legal
assistance,
and
I
thought
it
might
be
great
to
have
that
fresh
in
people's
minds
when
they
review
legal
assistance,
but
I
am
fine
with
either
I
mean
what
others
like
to
move
forward
with
public
comment
right
now,
yeah.
I
think
we
should
hear
public.
I
Comment
because
we,
I
don't
want
to
take
it
for
granted-
that
somebody
didn't
want
to
comment
on
flats
on
forward.
I
I'd
like
to
hear
their
voices.
A
Comments,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
remind
everybody,
though,
because
we
are
on
a
timeline
city
staff-
that's
on
this
call
recording
it
is
going
to
time
it
the
same
way
they
time
city,
council
and
for
city
council.
After
three
minutes
the
person
is
muted.
So
please
keep
your
comments
to
three
minutes
and
I
will
start
with
the
first
person
on
the
list.
Celeste
scott.
I
O
Okay,
so
good
morning,
it's
good
to
be
back
and
to
see
everyone.
My
name
is
celeste,
I'm
the
housing
justice
organizer
for
pittsburgh,
united,
and
so
the
overwhelming
majority
of
leases
require
that
tenants
waive
their
right
to
criminal
proceedings
against
their
landlord
in
their
lease
and
while
landlord
tenant
cases
are
civil
suits,
every
single
tenant
in
the
city
walks
into
their
hearing
at
a
disadvantage
both
in
terms
of
relationships
to
the
law
and
resources.
O
We
have
seen
the
disastrous
effects
of
this
reality
long
before
and
throughout
this
pandemic.
This
status
quo
disproportionately
punishes
black
people
and
poor
people
for
the
crime
of
being
black
and
poor.
Today
you
have
the
opportunity
to
try
and
start
to
push
back
against
that.
You
can
begin
to
level
the
playing
field.
What
we
are
asking
you
to
do
is
be
unnecessary.
O
A
Thank
you.
Celeste
next
up
is
swain
uber.
P
Good
morning,
everyone
thanks
thanks
for
taking
our
comment
earlier.
I
actually
do
have
to
hop
off
at
10
a.m.
So
it's
it
works
out
perfectly
for
me.
So
I
appreciate
that
my
name
is
swain
uber,
I'm
a
housing,
fellow
with
the
community
justice
project.
I
know
there
are
going
to
as
as
for
just
what
jessica
said.
I
know.
Quite
a
few
of
our
colleagues
are
going
to
be
speaking
about
this
issue,
so
I'll
just
kind
of
focus
on
two
points
in
particular
one
I'm.
P
You
know
extremely
thankful-
and
I
you
know
made
this
comment-
that
the
last
board
that
I
was
able
to
attend
for
the
push
here
to
start
funding
legal
services
at
at
scale
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
It
really
will
make
a
difference
and,
as
you
know,
as
celeste
said,
it
will
save
lives.
Eviction
crisis
was
a
crisis
before
kovid,
and
now
it
is
just
you
know,
as
as
you
all
know,
a
totally
different
playing
field.
So
so
I'm
super
appreciative
of
that.
P
However,
the
need
might
be
larger
than
we
think
right
now,
so
I
do
just
want
to
keep
in
the
back
of
people's
minds
the
possibility
of
if,
if
it
seems
to
to
make
sense
using
demonstration
funds,
which
is
you
know
what
part
of
the
set-aside
in
demonstration
funds
were
originally
designed
for.
Obviously
I
think
ramping
up
a
program
of
this
scale
will
take
time
and
will
you
know,
come
in
stages,
so
I
don't.
P
You
know,
I
agree,
the
money
isn't
necessary
in
the
beginning,
but
there
may
be
a
point
later
this
year
that
it
would
make
sense
for
some
additional
dollars
to
be
to
be
added
to
the
program,
and
you
know
we,
the
nice
thing
about
the
demonstration
dollars
is
they
can
be
allocated
as
as
the
board
sees
fit
and,
as
makes
sense,
so
just
wanted
to
to
flag
that.
I
also
wanted
to
point
out,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
eviction
crisis
was
a
crisis
before
kovid
and
it
will
last
longer
than
covet.
P
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
program
that
will
need
funding
secure
funding
for
more
than
just
this
year.
I
know
councilman
o'connor,
you
know
essentially
seeded
or
beefed
up
the
allocation
for
this
year,
but
I
I
do
want
to
just
put
it
again
in
your
in
your
in
the
board's
minds
that
we're
going
to
be
needing
similar
allocations
in
the
coming
years,
because,
frankly,
yeah
people
are
still
gonna
need.
Lawyers
to
you
know
let
keep
keep
them
in
stable
housing.
So
again
I
appreciate
you
all
and
yeah.
A
Much
great,
thank
you
swain.
The
next
registered
speaker
is
christine
kirby.
Q
Good
morning,
everyone
this
is
christine
kirby,
I'm
the
director
of
development
for
neighborhood
legal
services.
First,
I
really
want
to
there's
no
need
to
you
know
kind
of
pile
on
about
the
urgent
need
for
eviction.
Defense,
legal
work,
we're
expecting
a
tsunami
we
handled
over
600
cases
over
the
last
couple
months
with
cares,
act,
funding
which
has
gone
away
around
the
common
defense
of
the
the
eviction
moratoria.
Q
Those
cases
were
mostly
mostly
mostly
continued.
So,
as
swain
had
said,
prior
eviction
crisis
was
a
problem
before
coven,
it's
just
exasperated
now.
Q
We
were,
I
built
the
guidelines
proposed
for
the
eviction
prevention
and
foreclosure
prevention
landed
in
my
desk
yesterday,
and
we
had
a
chance
so
far
to
look
at
the
foreclosure
prevention
a
little
more
closely,
and
I
would
like
to
recommend
some
slight
terms
of
art
modifications
so
that
the
guidelines
are
easily
understood
by
the
applicants
and
the
courts.
So,
for
example,
legal
assistance
to
the
the
the
eligible
undertangled
title,
legal
assistance
to
help
transfer
homes.
Q
Legal
title
to
the
current
occupant's
name
would
be
best
said:
legal
assistance
to
help
transfer
homes
record
title
to
the
current
occupant.
The
the
main
concern
that
we
had
you
know
also
is
just
sort
of
also
the
way
the
judges
who
hear
these
cases
questions
that
they
asked
you
know
under
the
eligible
applicants.
They
have
asked
that
each
applicant
must
be
a
homeowner
or
the
occupant
of
a
home
in
which
they
claim
a
legal
interest.
That's
under
section
under
section
four.
Q
Q
Q
I
Q
I
can
provide
specific,
more
comments
about
a
couple
of
things,
but
the
big
qualifier
disqualifier
for
many
people
living
in
long-held
family
homes,
is
that
they're
unable
to
enter
a
tax
payment
plan
because
they're,
not
the
owner
of
record
and
they're,
unable
to
apply
for
he
map,
because
they're
unable.
D
A
Okay,
thank
you
christine
and
looks
like
the
next
registered
speaker
is
aaron
herb.
C
Yes,
hi
everybody
thanks
for
inviting
this
public
comment,
even
in
the
virtual
space,
my
name
is
aaron
irv,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
just
mediation,
pittsburgh
and
just
really
glad
for
the
chance
that
the
ura
and
especially
jeremy
carter's
team
gave
to
be
able
to
elicit
feedback
regarding
this
new
legal
assistance
program
for
tenants,
it's
really
good
to
be
working
with
the
legal
aid
organizations
with
other
community
partners
to
make
sure
that
our
comprehensive
system
of
eviction
prevention
is
really
as
robust
as
possible.
C
We
try
to
do
that
pre-filing
as
much
as
possible
to
avoid
that
black
mark
of
eviction
on
attendance
record
and
also
to
resolve
resolve
conflict
at
the
earliest
possible
point
to
be
able
to
prevent
conflict
from
spiraling,
as
we
experience
that
so
often
in
our
own
lives.
C
People
rarely
leave
mediation,
100
satisfied,
but
they've
had
a
chance
to
shape
the
outcomes
in
such
a
different
way
than
they
get
in
other
formats,
and
so
we've
been
able
to
really
leverage
the
power
that
people
have
to
shape
their
own
decision
making
processes
and
we've
been
able
to
lean
on
a
pool
of
community
mediators,
community
trained
folks
to
be
able
to
actually
mediate
in
these
spaces,
and
that
gives
us
a
more
diverse
and
representative
pool
of
mediators.
C
My
comment
today
is
mostly
about
the
the
drafted
program
guidelines
for
the
legal
assistance
program
for
tenants.
I
think
they
look
great
and
again.
Jeremy's
team
did
a
great
job
of
eliciting
feedback
for
those.
C
The
one
thing
that
I'd
like
a
little
more
clarity
on,
if
possible,
is
the
coordinated
entry
component
it'd
be
great
to
have
a
system
of
coordinated
entry
that
you
know
has
significant
knowledge
of
the
different
players
and
service
providers
and
is
able
to
dive
deep
with
the
people
calling
for
coordinated
entry
to
be
able
to
understand
the
specifics
of
their
housing
issue,
to
be
able
to
refer
them
appropriately
to
mediation
or
to
limited
legal
assistance
or
to
a
more
comprehensive
legal
assistance.
C
E
Jessica,
I'm
not
seeing
jacob
in
the
participants
list
right
now.
S
Good
morning,
everybody,
my
name
is
megan
confer
hammond.
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
fair
housing
partnership
of
greater
pittsburgh.
S
I
appreciate
and
commend
the
board
for
creating
the
fair
housing
committee
and
I
am
excited
to
share
and
what
you
may
already
know,
but
to
really
celebrate
what
has
happened
in
the
mere
weeks
since
the
inauguration.
In
january.
When
I
last
spoke
here,
we
were
coming
off
of
a
violent
attack
that
happened
in
washington,
d.c
and
today,
mere
weeks
into
the
new
administration.
S
Additionally,
the
hud
acting
secretary
made
an
affirmative
statement
about
the
memo
and
then
in
the
following
week,
the
hud
secretary
nominee,
congresswoman
marcia
fudge
had
her
confirmation
hearing
her
initial
confirmation
hearing
and
spoke
explicitly
regarding
support
and
active
movement
regarding
fair
housing
in
the
upcoming
four
years,
and
so
what
I
want
to
bring
to
the
table
to
look
at
specifically
today
what
we
can
do
in
pittsburgh,
because
the
time
to
act
is
now.
We
have
discussed
the
data.
We
know
the
data
exists.
S
We
know
the
pre-inequities
exist
and
so
the
time
to
make
policy
changes
to
make
funding
decisions
to
start
to
address.
The
problem
in
reality
is
today
and
so
to
discuss
that
with
some
specifics
is
to
understand,
for
example,
in
the
agenda
that
was
raised
today.
That
squirrel
hill
is
a
prime
example
of
understanding,
fair
housing,
because
coral
hill
has
a
four
percent
black
alone
population
in
a
city
with
a
23.2
black
alone
population
based
on
the
acs
census
data,
and
so
we
must
understand.
S
Even
when
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
our
funding
decisions,
we
must
understand
the
impact
of
our
funding
decisions
in
order
to
continue
to
make
educated,
concrete
and
purposeful
decisions
to
move
us
into
the
future.
Instead
of
holding
us
back
into
the
past.
Additionally,
I
will
say
I
believe
I
have
substantiated
my
fair
housing
expertise
and
not
only
that,
but
my
fair
housing
expertise
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
S
So
I
certainly
asked
that
I
haven't
contacted
before
the
march
hos
meeting
regarding
the
fair
hill
housing
committee
in
order
to
ensure,
as
best
as
possible,
that
we
can
collaborate
for
the
fair
housing
committee
to
be
prepared
to
take
action
starting
in
march
with
the
decisions
that
need
to
be
made.
Addition.
A
Hey,
I
believe
megan
was
muted,
but
thank
you
so
much
megan
and
I
do
want
to
echo
megan's
statement
about
president
biden's
memorandum
that
he
did
on
fair
housing.
If
you
have
not
seen
it,
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
it
and
I
I
believe
it
is
linked
to
the
ura's
website.
R
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
echo
what
the
other
speakers
have
said
about
the
thanking
the
ura
and
and
especially
jeremy,
for
his
thoughtful
approach
to
preparing
the
guidelines
for
the
legal
assistance
programs.
It's
you
know
very
much
needed.
R
There's
currently
1349
eviction,
hearings
scheduled,
which
is
way
way
higher
than
usual
and
being
able
to
have
the
additional
funding
for
the
legal
consultation
and
representation,
is
going
to
make
a
huge,
huge
difference
to
those
folks
during
the
the
period
when
the
plan
funding
for
the
pennsylvania
legal
aid
network,
we
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
nls
and
sending
people
who
needed
legal
assistance,
their
way,
which
made
enormous
difference
to
lots
of
lives,
and
the
relative
unavailability
of
that
option
since
has
has
been
a
real
challenge.
R
Compensated
where
the
service
provider
is
compensated
as
part
of
this
program
is
only
through
a
bottleneck
of
a
coordinated
entry
program
administrator.
I
think
it's
important
that
if
people
approach
the
mediation
or
legal
consultation
or
representation
providers
directly,
that
there
be
a
smooth
expedited
route
whereby
they
can
be
entered
into
the
system
without
having
to
be
sent
away
in
order
to
you
know
possibly
get
dropped.
R
We've
seen
a
lot
of
problems
with
other
programs
where
that
was
a
requirement
so,
and
I
would
also
like
to
encourage
there
to
be
a
streamlined
way
for
the
people
in
the
resource
navigator
network
to
be
able
to
tie
into
this
as
well.
A
Thank
you,
anne
and,
and
I
I
will
just
state
that
that
the
plan
is
if
the
advisory
board
is
comfortable,
is
moving
forward
and
voting
on
the
draft
guidelines
today,
so
that
they
can
be
voted
on
by
the
ura
board
next
week
and
the
program
could
be
operational
when
the
evictionatorium
is
over
fantastic.
Okay,
I
believe
and
staff
please
shout
out
if
additional
people
are
on
the
call
here,
I
I
believe
there
was
a
couple
people
that
that
that
asked
to
speak
early
this
morning.
Is
there
a
pastor,
love
here.
A
H
Just
so
everyone's
aware,
pastor,
love
is
is
blind,
so
sometimes
he
has
difficulties
with
navigating
zoom.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
just
to
flag
that,
like.
A
T
Yes,
thank
you
because
I
have
to
go
in
one
minute,
so
this
will
be
very
quick.
I
want
to
say
happy
new
year
to
everybody.
I
want
to
say
congratulations
to
kelly
and
derek
for
your
nominations
and
it's
nice
to
see
everybody.
I
want
a
second
everything
my
colleagues
before
me
have
stated.
This
is
a
tremendous
crisis
that
we
are
in.
T
We
have
already
seen
the
effects
of
where
we're
we're
lacking,
and
there
was
already
a
need
for
support
for
low
to
moderate
income
residents,
and
now
we
just
see
that
excuse
me
now
we
just
see
that
it
has
increased
in
numbers
and
it's
also
affecting
those
who
have
not
ever
used
these
type
of
services
before
so
I
definitely
would
like
to
say
hope
you
guys
do
get
a
chance
to.
You
know,
make
a
vote
on
the
landlord
and
tenant
legal
assistant
programming.
T
There
is
so
much
need
for
helping
those
people
that
are
actually
in
need
of
the
services
and
actually
preventing
them
to
get
back
into
the
situation
moving
forward.
We
definitely
want
all
of
our
residents
to
thrive
and
not
fail
in
everything
that
they
do.
So
I
think,
as
long
as
we
kind
of
come
together
and
set
some
some
ground
rules
and
boundaries
with
kelly's
lead
on
the
board
and
derek
backing
her
up,
I
think
that
you
guys
could
succeed
in
that
and
I'm
supportive
of.
T
Hopefully,
you
guys
coming
out
of
a
good
decision
with
this
today.
So
thank
you
guys.
I
gotta
go
10
o'clock.
Thank
you
for
letting
me.
A
Thank
you
crystal
is
carmen
brown
here.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
thank
you,
everybody
who
provided
public
comment
so
now,
if
we
can
go
back
to
the
agenda,
let's
go
to
agenda
item
f.
The
flats
on
forward
development
lena
had
to
abstain.
Are
there
others
who
would
abstain
this?
This
would
be.
This
increase
would
actually
be
funded
out
of
2021
funding
potentially,
but
I,
I
would
say
2020
or
2021
funding
for
rental
gap.
Does
anybody
need
to
abstain.
G
I
need
to
abstain
from
the
vote
yeah
on
the
project.
A
Okay,
anybody
else
this.
A
Okay,
so
lena
derek
and
sonia
and
and
david,
can
you
remind
me
please
the
the
revised
conflict
of
interest
policy
from
hrna?
I
I
believe,
states
that
people
can
participate
in
discussion.
They
just
cannot
vote.
Is
that
correct.
E
B
You
do
you
want
to.
I
do
want
to
share
that.
London
metropolis
is
here
to
represent
action
housing
so
that
I
won't
be
I'm
recusing
myself
and
I
I
would
rather
not
be
part
of
the
discussion
since
I'm
so
close
to
this
project.
K
And
so
I
have
just
a
just
a
clarifying
question.
Just
so
I'm
clear
about
you
know
who
should
abstain
or
not
if
you
are
receiving
or
if
you
are
putting
in
an
application
for
rental
gap
assistance
program,
then
you
should
abstain
from
voting,
but
you
can
still
participate
in
the
discussion.
Is
that
correct.
A
A
Thank
you
jerome,
so
for
the
record,
jerome
derrick,
sonja
and
lena
will
be
abstaining
from
the
vote
and
lena
is
abstaining
from
the
discussion
as
well,
since
she
is
a
staff
member
of
action,
housing,
okay,
so
next
slide.
A
Sarah
shore,
a
staff
member
to
ura,
will
walk
you
through
the
packet
and
then
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
fair
housing
emphasis
go
ahead.
Sarah.
U
Hello,
everybody,
as
jessica
said,
my
name
is
sarah
shore.
I
work
in
the
resident
in
the
residential
and
consumer
lending
division
with
jessica
and
shayna
and
jeremy.
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
today
about
flatsome
forward,
as
has
been
prefaced.
The
ask
today
is
a
little
bit
longer
so
I'll
move
slowly
and
certainly
make
myself
available
for
questions
at
the
end.
U
This
project
might
sound
familiar,
probably
because
we've
talked
about
it
today,
but
also
because
it's
come
before
this
advisory
board
in
2020,
because
that
was
a
while
ago
I'll
do
a
quick
overview
of
the
project
itself.
This
is
a
mixed-use
development
on
the
corner
of
forward
avenue
and
murray
avenue
in
the
squirrel
hill
neighborhood.
U
So,
just
to
say
it
one
more
time
all
43
units
of
this
project
will
be
affordable.
Additionally,
25
of
these
units
will
have
preference
for
individuals
with
disabilities.
In
addition
to
the
housing
component
of
the
project.
The
first
floor
of
this
unit
of
this
building
will
be
10
000
square
feet
of
leasable
retail
commercial
space.
U
So
just
to
talk
about
the
financing
for
the
project
really
quickly,
the
litec
amount
is
12
million,
250
000
and
these
credits
are
expected
to
be
purchased
at
99
cents.
Other
financing
for
the
project
is
going
to
come
in
the
form
of
an
rcap
grant
a
dced
home
loan,
ehfa
community,
revitalization,
grant
philanthropic
support
a
bridgeway
capital
loan
capital,
magnet
grant
funds
and
pending
federal
home
loan
bank
money.
National
equity
fund
is
the
tax
credits
indicator
and
bny
mellon
is
going
to
be.
The
equity
partner.
U
All
of
these
affordable
units
will
have
an
affordability
term
of
40
years,
but
since
this
these
board
actions
in
april
of
2020
action,
housing
has
experienced
some
pretty
substantial
cost
increases
partially
due
to
covid,
which
seems
to
be
you
know,
pretty
prevalent
along
among
the
developer
community,
but
in
addition
to
covet
action,
housing
has
experienced
high
costs
of
site
acquisition.
You
know
buying
in
squirrel
hill,
an
expensive
neighborhood
in
the
city
and
additional
cost
increases
due
to
public
infrastructure
repair.
U
So,
as
jessica
mentioned
earlier,
mayborn
road
is
a
public
street
that
abuts
the
development
site
and
is
compromised
due
to
an
underground
vault
that
holds
a
non-functioning
heating
plant
and
there
are
pretty
substantial
costs
with
this
road
repair,
not
just
due
to
the
infrastructure,
but
due
to
some
asbestos
remediation
and
other
aspects
that
accompany
the
infrastructure
repair
itself.
So
lena
and
action
housing
have
done
a
really
great
job,
fundraising
to
cover
these
expenses,
but
they're
asking
for
some
additional
ura
funding
to
fill
the
gap.
U
I
know
a
question
earlier
was
why
now
they
have
received
a
couple
of
other
financing
opportunities
in
the
past
month
and
they
have
really
been
pushing
to
repair
this
public
road
that
a
lot
of
residents
in
that
area
rely
on.
U
So
in
order
for
the
ura
to
consider
filling
this
funding
gap,
there
are
a
few
things
that
we're
asking
of
this
advisory
board
today,
the
first
of
which
is
to
increase
the
current
rental
gap
program
loan
from
five
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
to
one
million
three
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
as
jessica
mentioned
earlier.
This
is
an
increase
of
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
The
loan
terms
and
the
affordability
term
of
40
years
will
remain
intact.
All
units
will
remain
affordable.
U
The
set
aside
will
change
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second,
but
so
that's
the
first
thing.
The
second
thing
is
that,
in
order
to
be
able
to
increase
this
loan,
we
need
to
consider
waiving
the
current
rgp
guidelines
as
they
stand
to
allow
for
the
loan
to
increase
above
the
current
threshold.
The
current
maximum
loan
amount
of
one
million
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
we
also
need
to
allow
for
an
increase
in
the
per
unit
subsidy.
U
U
So
that
is
the
overview
I
do
want
to
touch
on
quickly
the
importance
of
this
project
and
what
it
means
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
so
so
that,
obviously
with
rgp
funding,
there
needs
to
be
a
non-profit
applicant,
while
action
housing
is
serving
as
their
own
nonprofit
applicant
they're,
working
with
other
nonprofit
entities
on
the
project,
specifically
achieva,
which
is
a
non-profit
organization
that
provides
long-term
support
for
children
and
adults
with
disabilities.
U
This
organization
offers
comprehensive
programs
like
employment
services
like
older
adult
protective
services
and
community
supported
living.
Additionally,
action
housing's
own
management
company,
supportive
housing
management
services
is
going
to
provide
services
to
tenants
as
well
and
again
as
it
stands,
the
project
has
25
of
the
units
going
towards
households
with
disabilities,
so
that
leads
us
into
the
conversation
that
we've
had
today
about
the
fair
housing
committee.
U
One
condition
we're
proposing
to
exceed
this
rental,
housing
or
pardon
me
rental
gap
funding
cap
is
that
action.
Housing
is
expected
to
work
with
the
fair
housing
partnership,
as
well
as
this
new
fair
housing
committee
that
the
advisory
board
has
created
today,
and
this
group
will
be
documenting
marketing
activities.
Lease
up
activities
and
collecting
metrics
that
are
going
to
track
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
practices
as
they
relate
to
this
project.
Another
thing
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
councilman
cory
o'connor
has
reallocated
this
money
to
help
them
fill
this
gap.
U
I
know
you
all,
as
an
advisory
board
are
going
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
later,
but
it
does
indicate
city
council
support
for
this
project.
So
just
a
quick
recap
of
the
asks
for
today,
because
I
have
said
a
lot
in
these
past
couple
of
minutes.
The
first
thing
that
we're
asking
for
is
an
increase
to
the
originally
proved
approved
rgp
funding
from
585
000
to
1
million
335
000.
U
We're
asking
to
waive
the
rgp
guidelines
to
allow
for
a
loan
amount
that
is
over
the
maximum,
which
is
currently
one
million
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand,
and
we're
also
asking
to
waive
the
rgp
guidelines
to
allow
for
a
per
unit
subsidy.
That
is
over
the
limits
that
the
rgp
guidelines
currently
state.
So
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
to
see
if
jessica
has
anything
to
add
or
if
linda
has
anything
to
add,
if
she's
on
and
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
as
well.
A
Sure
I
have
a
couple
things
and
then
I
I
do
want
linda
to
speak
to
the
project
here,
but
but
just
real
quick.
If
you
look
at
your
packet.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
sarah.
That
was
a
great
job.
If
you
look
at
your
packet
on
page
four,
you
can
see
the
the
sources
and
uses
of
the
project,
and
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
action
housing
has
really
done
a
pretty
good
job.
A
really
amazing
job
of
fundraising.
A
This
is
not
a
situation
of
a
developer,
getting
tax
credits
and
then
asking
the
ura
to
to
fill
the
remainder
of
the
gap,
but
it
if
you
look
at
their
sources,
they
have
aggressively
gone
after
our
cap
funding
from
the
state
of
pennsylvania
they
were
awarded,
but
they
were
not
awarded
the
total
amount
of
their
requests,
which
is
in
part,
causing
the
gap.
A
But
you
can
see
you
can
see
and
on
these
types
of
projects
I
will
say
you
know,
generally
speaking,
the
largest
number
is
the
low
income
housing
tax
credit
equity,
because
that's
the
equity
that
they
get.
You
know
through
through
getting
the
credit
allocation
from
the
state
and
selling
the
credits
to
investors,
and
then
you
can
see
the
ura
rental
gap
program
in
addition
to
the
hof
funding.
A
Additionally,
federal
home
loan
bank
is
is
pending,
but
they
have
applied
to
that
and
then
the
multimodal
and
mixed
use
funds
is
also
an
additional,
very
complex
application
that
they
are
working
on.
A
So
so
I
did
want
to
point
that
out
that
there
is
a
variety
of
funding
and
then
also
on
the
the
fair
housing
I
neglected
to
say
earlier
when
when
megan
was
talking
about
president
biden's
memo,
not
only
is
it
on
the
ura's
website,
but
but
the
city
and
the
ura
has
both
endorsed
it
via
some
public
press
releases
and
just
to
emphasize
in
the
memo.
A
The
words
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
were
words
that
were
introduced
in
the
president
obama's
administration,
which
means
not
only
do
we
all
support
fair
housing,
but
it
is
our
job
as
government
to
affirmatively
further
it
and
to
actually
go.
You
know,
out
of
our
way,
to
to
push
and
ensure
that
fair
housing
happens
and,
under
our
previous
president,
those
those
words
actually
came
out
of
the
hud
vernacular.
A
But
it
was
really
great
to
see
that
in
the
first
week
of
president
biden's
administration,
that
those
words
came
back
into
the
vernacular
very
fast,
and
so
this
is
a
project
that
really
does
clearly
demonstrate
fair
housing,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
an
action
housing
has
agreed
in
good
faith,
to
try
to
affirmatively
further
fair
housing
through
agreeing
to
work
with
with
this
advisory
board
and
other
outside
organizations
on
that
linda.
Can
I
pass
it
over
to
you
for
you
to
to
hit
anything?
V
Yeah
boy,
the
two
of
you
did
such
a
great
job.
Thank
you
so
much
so
as
a
consultant
now
with
action
housing.
I
continue
to
be
somewhat
involved
with
this
project.
It's
been
a
long
process.
As
you
might
remember,
there
were
two
other
development
plans
for
this
site,
both
of
which
really
had
nothing
to
do
with
affordable
housing,
and
so
when
the
last
project
fell
through
action,
housing
said:
hey
we're
going
to
take
a
stab
at
this.
V
We
knew
the
acquisition
price
was
very
high,
much
higher
than
what
action
housing
typically
spends,
but
we
thought
in
keeping
with
action's
commitment,
to
trying
to
develop
on
bus
lines
in
communities
of
opportunity
and
to
be
able
to
create
affordable
housing,
where
very
there's
very
little
in
supply
that
it
was
worth
the
effort,
and
I
think
you
can
see
from
the
pro
forma
that
action
has
done
a
really
great
job,
finding
money
under
many
many
different
corners
and
so
we're
happy
to
come
back
to
the
ura
and
continue
what
has
been
a
relationship
on
this
project
over
about
two
or
three
years.
V
You
know
some
of
the
challenges
really
have
been
that
acquisition
price,
and
certainly
the
mayburn
road
repair,
which
is
just
a
little
bit
south
of
a
million
dollars.
We
knew
the
city
needed
to
help
us
on
that.
We
couldn't
get
that
money.
Out
of
you
know
just
a
tax
credit
allocation,
so
you
know
we're
we're
also
very
committed
action.
Housing
is
to
always
having
supportive
housing.
V
So
not
only
are
our
target
population
people
with
very
modest
incomes,
but
a
good
percentage
of
the
people
that
will
live
in
this
building
and
that
live
in
kraus
commons
next
door
come
to
the
projects
having
other
challenges,
either
in
the
form
of
in
intellectual
or
physical
disability,
so
we're
action.
Housing
is
very
committed
to
increasing
the
number
of
units
that
actually
serve
those
people
with
even
more
challenges
to
living
independently
and
relationships
with
groups
like
jrs
and
achieva
help
us
to
be
successful
in
doing
that.
V
So
totally
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
fair
housing
partnership.
A
You
thank
you
linda,
and
you
know,
and
I
I
will
say
if,
if
other
developers
were
developing
the
site
and
had
the
street
issues
and
some
of
the
increased
costs
that
action
housing
had,
you
know
they
would
either
walk
away
from
the
development
or
they
would
up
the
rents.
You
know
really
high
to
be
able
to
cover
additional
debt
service
and
and
action
housing
you
know,
chose
to
not
do
either
and
to
to
keep
the
project
affordable.
H
A
question:
I
think
this
is
a
you
know,
an
exciting
sounding
project,
but
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
composition
of
the
units.
I
think
part
of
what
potentially
is
exciting.
Is
you
know
from
the
fair
housing
lenses
while
we
want
all
communities
to
be
opportunity?
Rich
cannot
deny
that
scroll
hill
is
uniquely
opportunity.
Rich
and
part
of
you
know
that
opportunity,
I
believe,
is
that's
missing
for
low
income.
H
Folks
is
families,
and
so,
while
I'm
hearing
a
lot
about
other
groups
that
we
absolutely
want
to
incorporate
and
take
care
of,
if
you're
three
blocks
from
paradise
is
anybody
like
are
we
are
we
have
do
we
have
units
with
sizes
that
families
can
live
in
to
send
their
kids
three
blocks
down
to
alder
dice
and
the
other
really
amazing,
schools
that
are
in
that
area
and
everything
else
that
squirrel
hill
has
to
offer.
V
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
the
those
are
very
valid
comments,
and
certainly
on
action.
Housing's
agenda
of
family
housing
is
a
big
priority.
The
challenge
is
that
this
was
a
relatively
small
site.
V
We
wanted
past
developers
wanting
to
build
10
story
buildings
on
this
site.
That
was
not
action,
housing's
agenda,
and
so
where
we
would
have
hoped
we
could
have
done
more
two-bedroom
units.
There
were
just
challenges
to
the
limitation
of
this
particular
site,
but
I
I
certainly
agree
with
you.
100
also
did
want
to
mention
that
action
runs
a
program
called
my
place.
V
That
is
a
very
successful
program
been
in
place
10
years
working
to
help
young
people,
transition
from
foster
care
or
homelessness
into
a
stable,
affordable
housing,
and
we
believe,
we'll
be
able
to
you,
know,
attract
some
of
those
individuals
into
this
building,
as
we
were
able
to
do
at
kraus
commons.
A
So,
in
order
for
us
to
consider
a
resolution
on
this
project,
we're
gonna
have
to
go
back
to
the
previous
slide,
because
that
would
be
the
source
of
funding
to
to
make
the
resolution
so
vatina.
If
you
could
go
back
to
one
more
slide,
I
think
yes
to
this
slide
right
here,
where
it
is
a
reauthorization
of
the
additional.
A
You
know
once
again,
additional
almost
surprise,
hof
funding
from
city
council
in
the
amount
of
1.958
that
that
this
would
need
to
be
the
revision
in
order
to
make
this
loan.
Once
again,
I
open
this
up
for
for
comment
or
if
anyone
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
N
How
did
that?
How
does
this
work,
because
I
thought
city
council
had
designated
that
it
was
going
to
be
spent
on
hsb?
Has
city
council
voted
to
change
that
or
is
that
what
they
need
to
be
doing?
Because
we
didn't,
we
weren't
really
able
to
vote?
We
had
to
accept
as
it
came
over,
which
was
fine.
It
was
going
through.
N
O
A
David,
you
do
better
job
explaining
this
probably
than
I
do
can.
Can
you
take
a
stab
at
explaining
this.
E
Yeah
sure
so
the
way
that
it
came
over.
If
you
look
at
the
budget
book
that
is
posted,
you
know
publicly
online,
it
says
preliminarily
allocated,
you
guys
accepted
the
preliminary
allocation.
That
leaves
some
amount
of
flexibility
to
move
things
around.
If
it's
preliminarily
allocated
it's
recognizing
that
this
advisory
board,
I
think
if
you
asked
councilman
o'connor,
he
wanted
to
make
sure
this
advisory
board
had
some
amount
of
flexibility
if
they
wanted.
So
when
the
question
came
up,
he
said
he
was
fine
with
it.
N
J
E
Sure
I
think
that
the
board
slide
last
month
did
say
preliminarily
allocated
and
the
authorization
was
to
accept.
I
could
be
wrong.
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
board
slide,
but
I
believe
that's
how
it
was
presented.
E
I
I
think,
council
president,
the
the
way
that
all
sort
of
funding
to
the
hof
works
is
that
you
know
you
as
council,
appropriates
it
and
then,
ultimately,
the
advisory
board.
You
know,
advises
on
how
the
funds
ultimately
should
be
split
up,
and
that
goes
back
before
council
to
be
approved
in
the
advisory
in
the
annual
allocation
plan
legislation.
E
This
is
the
first
time
that
the
advisory
board
is
receiving
increased
funds
outside
of
the
10
million,
so
this
is
sort
of
newly
tread
ground,
and
certainly
up
for
discussion
and
questions
from
the
board
and
determining
how
they
want
to
do
this.
I
think
that's
fair
and
your
request
for
a
legal
opinion
on.
It
is
also
more
than
fair.
A
So,
given
that
does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
subject
to
legal
opinion.
L
I
just
have
a
quick
comment.
This
is
adrian
wanojo
speaking.
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
project
and
philosophically
definitely
support
it.
This
is
just
such
a
large
increase
from
the
first
proposal
that
I
think
it's
important
for
us
as
a
board
to
discuss
parameters
related
to
significant
changes
in
an
original
application.
H
I
I
agree,
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
makes
this
slightly
easier,
like
a
perhaps
an
easier
discussion,
is
that
these
are
funds
that
we
were
gifted,
so
we
did
not
originally
budget
for
them
to
go
into
a
particular
place.
H
So
it's
easier
in
my
mind
at
least
to
move
them
around,
but
if
this
were
a
traditional
increase
for
something
that
we
had
allotted
and
thought
through
as
carefully
as
we
had
our
original
10
million
allotment,
this
would
this
would
be
troubling
to
you
know,
to
shift
the
funds
around
in
this
in
this
way,
so
I
agree,
we
should
probably
think
about
how
to
deal
with
dramatic
increases,
moving
forward.
A
I
mean
I,
I
agree
with
that
statement
as
well
and
the
ura
in
general.
You
know
we
we
we're
constantly
thinking
about
that
as
well.
I
mean
we
do
have
our
our
threshold
is
a
total
of
1.25.
You
know
coming
out
of
all
sources
and
it
is
very,
very
rare
if
ever
to
exceed
the
threshold,
but
you.
O
A
I
will
say:
is
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
has
selected
six
neighborhoods
where
their
voucher
rent
is
actually
higher.
And
those
are
you
know
six.
A
Six
of
the
you
know
stronger
market
neighborhood,
squirrel
hill
being
one
of
those
under
the
logic
that,
to
you
know
that
they
want
to
encourage
landlords
in
those
neighborhoods
to
affirmatively,
further
fair
housing
and
rent
through
the
section
8
program,
and
that
was
one
thing
that
we
had
discussed
at
the
ura
when,
when
deciding
to
make
this
recommendation
is
that
if
there
ever
was
a
time
to
to
make
an
administrative
waiver
of
guidelines
that
that
this
would
would
sort
of
pattern
off
of
what
the
housing
authority
has.
A
A
Are
there
any
other
comments?
You
know,
and
you
know
once
again
just
kind
of
a
reminder.
This
is
the
advisory
board.
You
know,
recommends,
recommends
approval
of
these
things
and
then
they
go
to
the
ura
board
as
the
governing
board.
If
someone
would
like
to
recommend
the
approval
of
this
via
motion
or
recommend
something
different
lesser
or
with
different.
N
A
So
so
this
gets
a
little
tricky
because
the
ura
has
other
sources
as
well,
but
the
existing
hof
caps
right
now
is
60
000
per
unit
for
a
30
ami
unit
and
30
000
per
unit
for
a
50
ami
unit
and
and
then
all
ura
sources
together,
hof
and
if
home,
money
or
cdbg
is
in
these
deals.
We
have
a
per
project
cap
of
1.25.
N
L
V
This
is
linda
again.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
if
we
did
not
have
to
fix
mayburn
road,
we
would
not
be
coming
back
to
this
committee
and
I
think,
cory
o'connor's
interest
in
trying
to
make
this
project
move
forward,
supported
his
decision
to
to
ask
that
that
money
go
to
support
this.
So
in
essence,
this
project
is
paying
for
infrastructure
repairs
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
close
to
a
million
dollars.
So
if
we
didn't
have
to
do
that,
man
we
would
love
it
tell
you
the
truth,
but
that's
just
the
reality.
V
So
I
I
absolutely
agree
with
you.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
level
playing
field
and
try
to
stay
within.
You
know
established
limits
this.
You
can
see
that
action
has
gone
to
every
single
source.
They
could
absolutely
identify,
but
no
one's
going
to
pay
for
city
infrastructure
repairs
other
than
some
city-related
entity.
L
I
think
that
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
feels
like
a
bit
of
the
rub
is
that
it
is,
and
there
is
infrastructure
need
here,
which
is
slightly
unusual
to
other
projects.
So
again,
it's
not
that
I'm
not
in
support
of
the
project
or
dispersing
the
money.
I
just
feel
that
there's
a
lot
of
tentacles
to
this
that
don't
fit
neatly
into
our
current
protocol
and
I'm
not
sure.
F
L
K
Well,
I
have
a
question
so
if
the
infrastructure
is
not
funded
or
paid
for
through
through
through
these
funds
that
we
currently
have,
then
how
will
it
get
paid
for?
Obviously,
it's
needed
for
the
project
to
to
be
to
get
done.
So
if
it's
not
funded
through
this
process
or
our
process,
then
how
will
it
be
funny?
Because
it
has
to
happen
right.
V
V
Second,
this
this
was
the
last
resort.
We
have
tried
many
many
many
different
avenues
and
and,
as
I
said
when
we
initially
started,
we
thought
the
city
was
going
to
step
in
directly
and
put
their
own
resources
into
the
street,
which
we
can't
build
this
building.
Unless
that
wall
is
repaired
and
you
can't
repair
that
wall,
unless
you
fix
the
street
as
well
and
the
city
is
not
stepping
up
to
say
they
have
any
responsibility
for
that.
That
street
has
been
closed.
It's
a
hazard,
there's
big
holes
in
it.
K
I
think
my
concern
my
my
only
concern
is
that
if
we
do,
if
we
do
fund
it
through
through
our
funds,
then
it
kind
of
opens
the
door
for
the
city
not
to
do
infrastructure
and
then
having
more
people
come
through
us
to
get.
That
done,
which
I
don't
think
is
the
right
thing.
So
I'm
kind
of
weighing
those
two
things
out
that
it
has.
K
V
They
they
do
not
want
to
take
this
on.
That's
all.
I
can
tell
you
so
we
we
need
the
ura's
help
and
we
we
think
that,
because
corey
o'connor,
you
know,
was
willing
to
make
funds
under
his
disposal
available
to
the
ura
that
that
is,
you
know,
creating
an
improvement
into
the
squirrel
hill
neighborhood
as
well.
G
I
could
just
say
this,
so
I
agree
with
jerome's
comment.
The
where
I
would
differ.
I
don't
necessarily
think
it's
opening
the
door
for
other
developers
to
kind
of
do
this
sort
of
thing,
because
these
funds
came
from
another
source.
G
I
would
agree
with
that
if
we
were
moving
the
existing
billion
dollars
around
to
try
to
create
this-
and
you
know
basically
go
over
our
caps-
which
I
don't
think
any
of
us
want
to
do-
but
in
this
case,
because
the
funds
came
from
another
source
kind
of
intended
to
be
dedicated
for
this
project,
I
think
that
gives
gives
a
little
bit
more
latitude
in
this
case.
So
I
just
think
it's
a
little
bit
different.
K
H
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
make
a
clunky
motion
and
I'm
accepting
wording
suggestions
as
we
go,
because
I
too
think
that
it's
different
in
this
case,
because
councilman
o'connor
gave
us
money
that
would
then
be
going
back
to
his
district
that
he
might
have
had
at
his
disposal
to
put
towards
this
project.
Had
he
not
previously
given
it
to
us.
So
so
I
move
that
again.
H
Clunky
wording,
because
I
I'm
trying
to
get
that
piece
in
so
that
we're
not
setting
bad
president
that
we
increase
the
funding
allocation
for
the
flats
on
forward
project
to
come
from
the
additional
resources
provided
to
the
housing
opportunity
fund
from
councilman
o'connor
at
our
previous
meeting
to
750
000
and
exceed
the
previously
established
caps.
A
Done
I
think
it
gets
it
done
david
she's,
basically
combining
two
sort
of
two
motions:
the
motion
to
to
agree
to
the
reallocation
of
the
funding
and
then
the
motion
to
increase
the
the
rgp.
Do
you
agree
yeah,
so.
E
Just
to
be
clear,
I
feel,
like
I
make
this
qualification
once
a
meeting.
I
am
not
actually
a
lawyer
and
I
believe
kelly
is
actually
a
lawyer,
so
if,
if
kelly
is
comfortable
with
that
wording,
I
I
think
it's
clear
what
the
intention
is.
I
think
that
the
discussion
can
be
recorded
in
a
way
that
sort
of
encapsulates
what
the
board's
concerns
and
feelings
are
around
the
motion.
I
think
it's
probably
fine
to
vote
it
like
this.
You
guys
are
also
an
advisory
board.
So
it's
not
the
final
vote.
E
It
can
be
made
very
clear
to
the
ura
board
as
the
governing
board
what
the
advisory
board's
concerns
are
around.
These
sort
of
increased
allocations
were
and
sort
of
the
special
nature
of
it,
and
I
understand
adrian
and
the
rest
of
the
board's
concerns
around
that.
I
do
think
it's
certainly
well
worth
like
the
fair
housing
committee,
as
they
get
working
to
think
about
how
this
could
not
be
like
a
special
exception,
but
rather
can
the
rgp
guidelines
be
changed.
E
E
F
E
H
A
A
Okay,
anyone
opposed
or
additional
abstentions
that
we
did
not
already
declare.
N
And
so
my
I'm
just
not
you
know
again,
I'm
I'm
still
confused
as
to
how
it
came
over
from
council,
and
you
know
we
again.
My
impression
last
month
was
that
it
was
voted
on,
and
that
was
the
way
it
was
going
to
go,
which
was
fine
and
it
was
additional
monies.
But
you
know
we
or
the
ura
board
have
the
ability
to
to
change
this
up
without
council
voting
again.
J
So
can
I
make
a
suggestion
so
that
motion
that
that's
part
of
the
motion
that
we
make
the
motion
to
accept
the
amendment
to
all
that,
pending
approval
from
the
law
department
or
from
a
legal
opinion.
J
F
L
So,
but
that's
a
great
point
sonia
if,
if
we're
uncomfortable
with
parts
of
the
motion,
you
know,
are
we
as
a
group
abstaining
or
are
we
literally
against
the
motion?
I
think
that
it's
important
to
clarify
that
and
to
also
make
sure
that
the
notes
and
the
discussion
and
what
the
public
sees
is
reflective
of
that.
J
A
Well,
can
I
ask
linda
metropolis
basically
if
we
were
to
do
that
and
revisit
this
next
month
and
put
it
on
the
ura
board
agenda
for
march
instead
of
february?
What
does
that?
Does
that
delay?
Your
closing.
J
H
I
I
don't
know
that
legal
will
have
an
opinion
that
quickly.
A
I
mean
the
other
thing
we
could
do.
I
guess
is
continue
to
go
to
ura
board
next
week
and
then
to
kelly's
point,
have
a
special
meeting
or
call
specific
to
this
item
after
the
board
meeting
so
at
the
board.
A
I
would
acknowledge
that
the
advice
report
has
not
that
voted
on
this,
and
then
we
do
it
afterwards
and
then,
if
the
advisory
board
were
to
choose
not
to
vote,
that
would
be
up
to
the
ura
how
they
wanted
to
handle
that
if
they
wanted
to
to
move
forward
or
if
they
wanted
to
source
it
somehow
differently
or
something
like
that,
we
could
do
it
that
way.
If
you
wanted.
F
V
We
need
the
the
approval
this
month
to
tell
you
the
truth.
I
know
some
of
you
have
done
litec
deals
and
you
know
we
have
one
project
with
complex,
probably
10
lawyers
around
the
table.
V
G
H
I
think
it
does
unless
we,
unless
it
doesn't
pass,
because
we
have
abstentions
and
people
who
are
not
again
opposed
to
this
project
but
opposed
to
shifting
from
hsp
to
to
which
I
should,
which
is
why
my
my
thing
was
narrow.
H
I
mean
in
just
that
it's
only
if
it's
councilman
o'connor
additional
two
million
dollars
and
we
do
not
touch
the
right
circumstances,
what
we
previously
allocated
but
having
been
happy
personally
with
what
we
had
allocated
previously,
I'm
okay,
with
with
dabbling
with
the
icing
on
the
cake,
if
as
it
were,
because
I
was
already
satisfied
with
the
cake.
So
that's
why
my
motion
was
worded
somewhat
narrowly
to
we
can
move
his
money,
but
nothing
else
so
yeah,
jessica,
you're
on
you.
A
Let's
go
back
to
kelly's
motion
and,
just
put
you
know
the
clarification
on
their
pending
law
approval,
and
let's
do
this
again
and
if
there's
enough
people
abstaining
are
saying
no,
that
I
need
to
call
roll.
We
can
do
that,
but
so
so
kelly's
motion,
plus
the
caveat
of
legal
approval
from
the
city
law
department,
all
those
in
favor.
J
A
N
If
this
was
it
to
kelly's
point,
if
it
was
the
core
allocation
I'd,
you
know
be
fighting
tooth
and
nail
to
stop
it,
because
there's
going
to
be
a
need
for
coveted
relief
funding
above
and
beyond
what
we're
going
to
see
from
the
state
and
and
what
we're
going
to
see
with
the
the
collaboration
with
the
city
and
the
county
and
what
the
feds
are
going
to
kick
in
that
this
crisis
is
hugely
much
deeper
than
I
think
people
are
realizing,
maybe,
but
it's
also
money
that
it
came
from
city
council.
N
In
effect,
it
could
go
back
in
some
fashion
or
form
so
with
that
750
000,
while
I'm
personally
opposed
to
pulling
it
out
of
the
hsp.
N
It's
it's
kind
of
a
you
know,
moot
point
in
that
it
could
be
taken
back
out
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund
and
if
we
can
get
fair
housing
pieces
that
come
into
place
in
neighborhoods,
where
we
typically
don't
see,
affordable
housing.
That's
great!
I
also
about.
I
really
also
hate
setting
a
precedent,
a
wave
in
these
guidelines,
and
it's
not
just
waving
it
for
a
little
bit.
N
It's
kind
of
demolishing
the
guidelines
when
we're
going
from
30
to
60
thousand
dollars
per
unit
and
that's
a
precedent
that
we're
going
to
set,
and
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
say
no
to
that
as
we
go
forward
with
other
projects
that
come
in
and
we're
all
you
know,
the
cost
of
this
is
a
half
a
million
dollars
per
unit,
that's
yeah,
but
but
with
that
I
also
understand
the
practical
reality
is
that
if
we
it's
gonna
happen,
anyways,
we
should
vote
to
get
the
affordable
housing
and
get
deeds
on
the
property.
N
A
Thank
you
mark
for
those
comments,
so
just
for
the
record,
in
terms
of
we,
we
got
the
eyes
in
terms
of
abstaining
and
and
declining
sonja
abstains.
Does
anyone
else,
abstain
or
decline.
A
Oh
right
right,
the
the
people
that
originally
said
they
had
to
abstain
is
derek,
lena
jerome
and
sonia
needed
to
abstain
anyhow.
A
So
I
think
that
still
leaves
enough
active
members
voting
for
the
motion
to
carry
so.
F
A
A
A
So
acknowledged
it
passed
part
b
is
the
increase
of
the
loan
with
the
per
unit
waiver
of
guidelines
and
and
the
total
amount
waiver
of
guidelines,
all
those
in
favor
or
actually
did
somebody?
I
guess
someone
needs
to
second
kelly's
motion.
F
S
This
is
victoria
kelly,
restate
the.
H
Yes,
the
second
portion
was
to
increase
the
per
project
and
per
unit
caps.
I
don't
know
if
I
need
specific
numbers,
but
to
what
is
necessary
to
complete
the
project
with
that
additional
750.
A
N
A
L
A
A
Okay
motion
carries
thank
you
and
everybody.
I
acknowledge
it
is
five
minutes
before
11.
We
still
have
you
know
some
some
agenda.
If
you
need
to
leave,
it
is
okay,
but
I
encourage
people
to
stay
on
for
another
30
minutes.
The
next
item
is
the
north
side
properties.
Brett.
Please
please
keep
the
remarks
relatively
short,
given
the
time.
W
Sure,
all
right
so
good
morning,
everyone
today
I'm
presenting
the
calbright
place
development,
it's
also
known
as
northside
residences
phase.
Four.
Just
to
give
some
quick
background,
there
have
been
to
date,
numerous
phases
with
northside
properties,
rns
llc
that
have
involved
substantial
renovations,
to
revise
or
revive
obsolete
properties,
to
ensure
long-term
affordability
in
the
neighborhoods
so
phase,
one
consisted
of
75
units.
W
That's
been
completed,
phase
two
consisted
of
122
units,
construction
for
phase
2
is
expected
to
be
completed
sometime
this
spring
and
then
phase
3
consists
of
68
scattered
site
units
and
that
is
anticipated
to
close
by
december
2021.
So
this
project,
however,
is
located
at
the
intersection
of
california
avenue
and
kirkbride
street
in
the
california
kirkbride
neighborhood.
W
The
development
itself
includes
the
new
construction
of
42
general
occupancy
units.
Those
would
be
contained
within
a
30
unit,
apartment
building
and
then
six
new
duplexes,
all
42
units
would
be
subject
to
a
20
year,
hud
project
based
section
8
hap
contract.
So
therefore,
these
units
would
all
be
available
at
various
income
levels.
Specifically,
five
units
would
be
affordable
at
or
below,
30
percent,
ami
20
units
at
or
below
50
percent
ami
and
then
17
units
at
or
below,
60
ami.
W
So
we're
here
today,
because
they've
requested
ura
financing
in
the
form
of
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
upif
loan.
That
was
approved
at
the
loan
review
committee
yesterday,
but
there's
also
a
450
000
rental
gap
program
loan.
That
would
be
three
percent
of
the
35
year
term.
W
The
rgp
loan
would
occupy
third
lien
position,
be
repaid
with
50
annual
cash
flow
or
the
minimum
annual
1
000
payment,
as
required
by
the
program
guidelines
for
the
rgp,
so
deed
restrictions
would
be
recorded
on
the
five
units
out
or
below
30
ami
and
the
20
units
at
or
below
50
ami
for
a
period
of
40
years.
W
So
the
external
financing
is
a
three
million
dollar
phfa.
First
mortgage
loan,
there's
a
reservation
of
20
29
tax
credits
in
the
amount
of
about
1.2
million
dollar
bank
would
provide
an
equity
bridge
loan
for
approximately
9.6
million,
and
the
total
development
cost
is
just
north
about
15.6
million
dollars.
So
north
side
properties
for
llc
is
the
ownership
entity
and
north
side
properties.
Rns
llc
is
the
managing
member
mystic
and
bob
mystic
are
the
principals
ralph
a
falbo
inc
is
the
development
consultant
and
urban
strategies.
W
Inc
is
the
non-profit
applicant,
as
required
by
the
rgp
application.
So
urban
strategies
inc,
however,
will
also
provide
services
to
residents,
including
some
specialized
case
management,
financial
literacy
workshops,
as
well
as
some
employment
readiness
workshops
with
other
programs
and
activities.
So,
lastly,
regarding
the
timeline
of
the
development,
they
do
anticipate
it
closing
in
july
2021
and
construction
to
conclude
sometime
in
september
of
2022.,
so
I
just
want
to
keep
it
a
little
brief
there.
W
So
I'd
like
to
introduce
sarah
mistick
and
bob
mystic,
with
both
northside
properties,
r
and
s,
llc
and
mystic
instruction,
as
well
as
michael
polite,
with
ralph,
a
falbo
incorporated
they're
here
on
behalf
of
the
development
team,
really
to
just
help
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
on
this
project.
Thanks.
A
A
So
if
I
were
adrian,
the
motion
would
be
to
enter
into
a
rental
gap
program
loan
in
the
amount
of
450
000
for
the
new
construction
of
42
units.
In
the
north
side,
the
commitment
will
expire
on
august
11
2021
for
the
minutes
victoria.
Please
note
that
the
commitment
for
flats
on
forward
will
also
expire
on
august
11
2021.
L
A
A
G
A
Okay,
next,
you
received
the
the
guidelines
via
email
a
couple
days
ago,
and
I
will
pass
this
over
to
jeremy
to
walk
you
through
them.
D
Okay,
so
just
to
go,
try
to
be
brief
here.
You
know
we
did
do
a
series
of
roundtable
discussions
in
the
past
month
or
so
to
ensure
we
got
a
diverse
perspective
of
what
groups
and
communities
thought
we
needed
to
include
in
this
legal
assistance
program.
D
D
So
we
also
heard
that,
in
order
for
this
to
be
effective,
we
need
all
of
the
different
legal
assistance,
services
and
components
to
work
with
each
other
and
not
be
siloed.
Building
on
that,
we
also
heard
and
agree
that
there
also
needs
to
be
resources
incorporated
in
these
programs.
D
So
first
is
for
the
homeowner
legal
assistance
program.
We
will
have
tangled
title
which
we
currently
have,
but
it
would
it's
housed
within
the
the
hap
program,
we're
essentially
going
to
move
that
into
this
new
legal
assistance
program
and
that
will
be
to
help
get
resident
or
the
homeowner's
deeds
into
the
into
their
their
names.
D
So
for
10
minutes,
we
will
have
three
different
legal
services.
First,
these
are
intended
to
kind
of
be
the
different
levels
of
legal
assistance
needed.
So
mediation
will
be
the
first
level
of
service
where
they
will
try
to
mediate
the
issue
between
landlord
and
tenant
through
a
mediation
agreement,
and
that
agreement
will
be
reviewed
by
an
attorney
to
ensure
that
no
one's
rights
are
being
violated
and
that
the
mediation
is
legal
and
fair.
D
If
someone
needs
a
little
bit
more
or
different
legal
assistance,
we
will
also
offer
limited
legal
consultation,
which
will
be
over
the
phone
legal
advice
for
again
evictions
of
not
being
affirmed
for
habitability
issues
and
security
positive.
This
is
typically
short,
15-minute
one-time
legal
consultation
from
an
attorney
if
someone
needs
a
little
bit
more
representation
through
the
eviction
process,
full
legal
representation
through
that
process
will
also
be
available,
although
we
are
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
correct
ratio
will
be.
D
But
what
we
heard
in
our
roundtable
meetings
is
that
there
is
a
desire
for
expanded
services
in
mediation
and
limited
legal,
but
full
legal
representation
will
be
available
as
well
for
only
for
eviction
cases
with
non-payment,
upfront
tying
it
all
together.
We
will
also
have
coordinated
entry
provider
who
will
need
to
have
expertise
and
experience
in
triaging.
These
calls
to
really
identify
what
the
right
level
of
service
is
in
order
to
make
that
appropriate.
Referral
to
whoever
the
agencies
will
be.
D
D
D
We
will
also
have
the
rfp
for
homeowners,
so
that
would
be
for
the
table.
Title
and
foreclosure
prevention
and
again
legal
or
organizations
can
apply
for
for
any
of
these,
including
coordinate
entry.
There
were.
There
was
public
comment
earlier
about
what
coordinate
entry
really
is,
and
so
I
just
want
to
take
a
quick
minute
to
expand
on
that.
D
Like
I
said
they
will
need
experience
and
being
able
to
triage
those
calls,
and
we
are
currently
working
on
our
side
on
what
the
process
will
look
like.
If
someone
ends
up
going
straight
to
mediation,
we
want
to
make
a
process
simple
and
easy
to
navigate,
and
so
we
are
just
trying
to
work
through
what
that
process
looks
like
to
make
sure
that
it's
easy
for
the
resident
seeking
assistance.
H
Hi,
so
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
is
on
the
coordinated
entry.
It
looked
like
it
said
and
again
I'm
kind
of
toggling
between
the
two
documents
that
our
requirements
were
going
to
be
50
of
ami.
H
H
So,
okay,
so
when
so
the
coordinated
entry,
that's
for
both
of
them
would
have
the
50
for
this
and
80.
For
that,
okay,
okay,
it
didn't.
I
didn't.
I
didn't
get
that
okay,
so
then.
The
second
question
is
about
limited
legal
representation
and
in
our
conversation
we
had
talked
about
a
little
bit.
H
How
you
know
you
know
it's
absolutely
beneficial
for
people
to
be
able
to
call
and
get
their
legal
rights,
but
sometimes
a
lawyer
can
do
a
one-off
representation
of
drafting
a
letter
that
gets
much
more
traction
than
perhaps
if
a
tenant
just
says
hey
well,
I
talked
to
a
lawyer
and
they
said
versus
if
that
call
is
made
or
that
letter
is
drafted-
and
I
didn't
see
that
kind
of
one-off
flash
in
the
pan
representation
as
part
of
what
it
looked
like
was
included
in
the
rfp.
D
Yeah
we
we
agree
kelly,
we're
operating
under
that
same
understanding
as
well.
We
will
need
to
just
make
that
more
clear
when
the
rfp
goes
out
of
what
exactly
is
eligible
under
those
services.
But
yes,
it
won't
just
be
limited
to
you
know:
phone
consults.
It
can
be
letters,
it
can
be.
You
know,
essentially
not
fully
representing
them
in
an
eviction
case
and
being
limited
and
time
bound.
H
H
Literal
interpretation
of
the
bullets
question
my
last
one
is
unability,
so
it
says
you
know
it
seems
to
read
as
though,
when
a
habitability
issue
pops
up,
that
it
kind
of
poofs,
because
it's
no
longer
just
about
non-payment
of
rent,
and
I
just
that,
if
that's
how
we
were
intending
to
write
it,
I
found
that
to
be
concerning,
because
in
90
of
my
cases
that
I
ever
had,
regardless
of
how
they
showed
up
to
the
door,
there
was
a
habitability
issue
that
they
had
underlying
in
their
case,
was
just
our
housing
stock.
D
Yeah,
so
that's
why
we
we
actually
changed
the
wording
recently
from
just
have
the
ability
to
implied
warranty
of
habitability,
to
refine
that
to
mean
that
it's
only
limited
to
that
implied
warranty
that
the
landlord
is
legally
obligated
to
maintain
habitability,
not
just
any
habitability
concerns.
H
I
think
sorry,
I'm
looking
under.
N
D
N
Least,
term
breaches
of
the
lease
you
know,
there's
some
other
things
that
we
might
want
to
put
in
there.
So.
A
So
so
financial
hardship,
you
know,
is
something
that
we
can
help
with
through
legal
prevention
program
and
then
referring
them
to
you
know
the
counties
program
or
hsp
for
for
funding
to
help
remedy
that,
and
then
habitability
is
also.
You
know,
an
issue
for
the
government
you
know
and
and
wanting
to
help
defend
people
over
habitability
issues,
mold,
etc.
When
it
comes
to
lease
issues
itself,
rather
it
be
a
you
know,
violation
of
you
know
having
something
in
your
unit
you're
not
supposed
to
have.
A
If
you
have
a
cat
when
you're
not
supposed
to
have
a
cat
like
those
are
things
that
are
outside
the
realm
of
the
ura
as
a
redevelopment
authority,
and
so
that's
why
I
was
decided
that
financial
and
habitability
are
are
the
things
that
are
within
our
realm.
P
N
I
guess,
but
I
think
that
you
know
what
you're
going
to
find
is
that
you
know
this
stuff
is
going
to
run
together.
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
I
haven't
represented
folks.
I
know
from
days
of
working
with
the
northside
tenant
landlord
project
years
ago
that
there
was
always
some
other
reason
when
you're
down
trying
to
help
the
tenant
in
front
of
the
magistrate
to
not
get
evicted.
N
N
You
know
if
I
just
worry
that
we're
gonna
not
be
really
effective
with
this,
if
we
sort
of
handcuff
at
the
beginning
and
I'd
rather
have
some
more
flexibility
in
these
guidelines
to
allow
the
most
effective
way
that
the
you
know,
the
folks
that
are
providing
the
legal
assistance
can
help
people
stay
in
the
house
and
not
get
sort
of
jerked
around
to
get
evicted
on
some
other
things.
Besides,
you
know
the
the
non-payment
of
rent
that
you
can
always
gin
up.
Another
reason
to
put
somebody
out
if
you're
trying
to
do
that.
A
Yeah,
it's
really
that
that
non-payment
of
rent
and
habitability-
you
know,
often
are
a
little
bit
clearer
cut.
The
ura
does
not
want
to
be.
You
know
in
the
position
of
being.
You
know
the
person
to
determine
rightfulness
or
wrongfulness
in
some
of
these
other
in
the
these
other
situations,
and-
and
you
know,
our
funding
needs
to
be
very
clear-cut-
that
it's
helping
for
financial
reasons
or
on
habitability
reasons.
D
And
additionally,
when
we
met
with
all
of
these
groups,
you
know
we
had
about
30
different
meetings
to
to
draft
these
guidelines
and
what
we
heard
time
and
time
again,
the
three
most
common
issues
was
not
payment
of
rent,
habitability
and
security
deposit
returns,
and
so,
when
thinking
about
designing
a
pilot
program,
we
have
to
be
limiting
to
see
if
this
will
even
work
before
we
expand
on
it.
And
so
we
decide
to
go
with
the
three
most
common
requested
legal
assistance
issues.
N
But
then
again
and
jessica
and
you're
saying
that
we
at
the
this
is
really
we're
contracting
with
somebody
to
provide
a
service
to
help
people
stay
in
affordable
housing
and
not
get
get
kicked
out.
You
know:
is
it
possible
to
put
some
language
in
about
end
of
lease
term,
something
along
that
to
get
some
some
additional
flexibility
here.
H
I
was
just
gonna
say
if
not
I'm
thinking
about
the
non-payment
of
rent
issue
as
well,
and
thinking
perhaps
about
the
language
where,
if
non-payment
of
rent
was
ever
raised,
at
least
so
that
we
can
maybe
flesh
out
those
we're
saying
it's
about
your
cat
today,
because
you
caught
up
on
your
rent
yesterday.
So
it's
really.
H
It
truly
is
a
non-payment
issue
sometimes,
but
we
came
up
with
you
know
some
subterfuge,
because
that
tends
to
happen
like
if
nonpayment
of
rent
was
an
issue
in
you
know,
I
I
get
what
you're
saying
in
terms
of
what
is
the
true.
You
know
what
is
the
with?
What
is
your
a
scope
and
it
is
habitability
and
non-payment
perhaps,
but
but
it
also,
you
know,
lets
a
lot
slide.
H
If
we
can
broaden
it,
then
I
think
that
would
get
to
maybe
the
root
cause
or
address
both
we
can
help
you.
We
helped
you
get.
You
know,
pay
your
rent
last
month,
but
now
today
your
end
of
lease
term,
but
technically
it's
under
leads,
but
it's
really
the
same
kind
of
issue
as
I
thought.
K
Well,
I
I
do
have
some
questions.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
related
to
the
mediation
portion
of
of
the
agreements.
So
first
let
me
just
full
disclosure.
I
am
a
board
member
of
just
mediation
pittsburgh,
so
just
just
so
disclose
that.
So
my
concern
is
one
that
we're
not
we're
offering
mediation
services
to
tenants,
but
not
the
homeowners.
K
I
think
that
mediation
for
homeowners
can
be
a
really
great
benefit
for
them.
I'm
also
having
some
difficulty
around
so
mediation
is,
is
a
non-biased
non-partial
process,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
like
where
it
describes
the
mediation
services-
and
it
says
that
the
agreement
will
be
drafted-
that
the
draft
of
a
mediation
agreement
on
the
behalf
of
the
tenant
that
doesn't
say
that
I'm
biased,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
working
to
create
a
an
agreement
for
the
tenant,
the
agreement
should
be
all
parties
in
the
room.
K
K
You
know
good
and
not
myself.
I
also
have
some
questions
around
cultural
competency
as
it
looks
at
mediators,
and
you
know
who
will
be
administering
this.
K
I
think
that
limit
limiting
the
issues
limits
the
the
ability
to
come
to
an
agreement
right,
because
we
know
in
mediation
that
people
start
out
with
it's
this,
but
it's
not
that
it's
something
else,
and
when
you
start
to
have
that
conversation,
it
could
lead
to
one
of
these
three
things
and
it
could
lead
to
something
else
and
if
it
leads
to
something
else,
then
does
the
mediation
stop.
K
If
you
find
out
that
it
is
not
one
of
these
three
things,
so
you
know
I
am
a
very
passionate
person
as
when
it
comes
to
mediation,
because
that
is
my
other
life,
and
so
when
I,
when
I
see
mediation
being
kind
of
put
into
a
box
that
concerns
me
because
mediation
is
a
is
a
process
that
can
allow
people
to
really
work
through
some
issues
and
to
put
limits
on
it
really
does
not
allow
for
the
process
to
really
work
in
the
way
that
it
should.
K
My
other
big
concern
is
having
an
attorney
look
at
the
agreement
after
the
parties.
For
me
agreement
to
me,
you
know
just
values
the
the
the
process
right,
because
it
can
also
start
up
other
issues
if,
in
my
opinion,
when
people
sit
down
at
the
table-
and
they
agree
that
this
is
the
agreement
that
I
am
happy
with,
and
I
can
live
with
and
walk
away
that
we
should
not
have
anyone
else.
Looking
at
that
that
that
agreement,
it
can
cause
more.
K
My
experience
is
that
that
causes
more
problems
than
it
does
help.
So
I
do
have
some
a
lot
of
concerns
with
around
this
whole
mediation,
especially
when
you
start
talking
about
mediation,
african-american,
community
and
minority
communities.
K
How
are
mediators
equipped
to
do
that
right
and-
and-
and
so
I
just
have
a
lot
of
concerns
as
it
relates
to
the
mediation
services.
G
I
was
just
gonna
add
a
few
comments
to
that.
So
I
clearly,
this
program
is
necessary,
but
I
I
wanna
make
sure
we're
looking
at
it
through
a
balanced
lens,
and
I
I
want
to
just
try
to
understand
the
coordinated
entry
a
little
bit
more.
So
you
know
if
someone's
behind
on
rent,
you
know
six
months
and
they
get
legal
defense.
G
Okay,
that's
that's
one
thing,
but
or
is
this
being
paired
with
rental
assistance,
because
that
may
stay
the
eviction
temporarily,
but
the
person's
still
behind
and
and
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
be
putting
putting
landlords
out
of
business
at
the
same
time,
because
that
really
just
exacerbates
our
affordable
housing
crisis
so
that
coordinated
entry
could
kind
of
speak
to
the
tenants
issues
but
also
like
simultaneously,
you
know
alleviating
the
the
concern
which
may
be
okay.
G
You
need
some
assistance
with
background,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
is
that
the
intent
with
the
coordinated
entry
piece
and
then
connected
to
that
mediation.
I
think
mediation
to
jerome's
point
will
play
a
critical
role
in
this
and
is:
is
that
really
intended
to?
You
know
when
a
person
comes
in
really
determine
if
they
really
need.
G
You
know
full
legal
support
or
if
mediation
would
be
a
better,
a
better
option,
and
I
do
think
mediation
allows,
for
you
know
more
creative
solutions,
even
if
it
isn't
a
a
a
background
issue
or
a
security
deposit
issue.
G
Mediation
could
speak
to
some
other
things,
whereas
maybe
if
you
just
go
straight,
you
know
full
out
legal
defense,
it's
more
limited,
so
just
trying
to
you
know,
make
sure
we're
looking
at
this
from
a
from
a
balanced
approach,
but
also
that
that
coordinated
entry
can
really
help
to
you
know,
bridge
the
gap.
D
Yes,
derek
that
is
the
intent
of
coordinated
entry,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
live
with
coordinated
entry
only
so
if
someone
goes
to
mediation,
the
the
intent
here
is
that
they
will
pro
link
them
to
rental
assistance.
D
If
that
is
part
of
the
problem,
but
also
the
landlords,
if
habitability
is
part
of
the
issue,
we
will
then
refer
them
to
the
ura
small
landlord
fund
so
that
they
can
take
care
of
the
habitability
issues
and
it's
not
just
a
tenant
resource,
so
it
very
much
can
happen
in
coordinated
entry,
but
it
doesn't
that's
not
the
only
place
that
those
referrals
will
happen.
H
So
so
that's
I
had
a
coup.
I've
had
a
couple
of
follow-up,
coordinated
entry
questions,
one
about
landlords
and
the
opportunity
for
landlords
to
reach
out
for
mediation
or
to
say
hey,
I'm
not
getting
paid.
Can
you
connect?
Can
can
you
reach
out
to
my
tenant
and
get
this
taken
care
of
as
well,
so
that
it
funnels
both
ways
as
a
win-win?
And
then
my
second
was
on
the
income
documentation.
H
We've
relaxed
some
of
those
on
our
other
programs,
but
it
looks
like
they're
still
in
place
for
the
for
the
legal
aid
services
in
terms
of
the
pay
stubs
within
the
certain
amount
period
of
time,
etc.
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
sync
that
up
to
the
more
relaxed
level,
because
we
relax
them
in
other
areas.
For
a
reason,
I
would
imagine.
D
So
we
haven't
relaxed
the
requirement
to
have
income
documented
for
any
of
the
programs,
but
we've
relaxed
how
they
can
do
that.
So
the
same
would
apply
to
this.
The
income
documentation
is
still
required,
but
there
are
flexibilities
on
how
to
do
that,
including
self-certification.
F
I
have
a
comment
on
the
coordinated
entry
just
to
to
stress
one
more
point
and
I
believe
it's
it's
reiterating
one
of
the
public
commenters.
F
We
have
this
centralized
intake
system
for
our
other,
some
of
our
other
hr
programs
and
it's
proven,
challenging
and
and
proven
to
be
difficult
to
navigate
in
some
situations
for
people
that
we're
trying
to
help.
So
I
just
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
having
a
highly
skilled
and
trained
people
in
this
coordinated
entry
program
so
that
we
make
sure
we're
actually
getting
getting
the
results.
We
expect.
N
It
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
and
again
you
know
we
just
seeing
this
kind
of
for
the
first
time
yesterday.
I
know
that
the
staff
has
been
working
on
this,
but
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
rental
piece
on
the
legal
assistance,
and
is
it
going
to
kill
us
to
take
some
more
time
to
go
back
through
these
guidelines
again.
P
N
Just
being
sure
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
folks
that
are
going
to
wind
up
providing
these
services
that
are
representing
clients,
you
know,
with
the
full
full
legal
representation,
if
they're
only
in
court,
to
help
the
tenant
with
back
payment-
and
you
know
somehow
the
rent
gets
caught
up
and
you
know
then
they
get
evicted
anyway.
For
some
other
reason
you
know,
maybe
we
need
to
be
looking
at
dual
causes
or
something
like
that.
You
know
I.
I
think
that
I
just
have
a
lot.
You
know.
N
I
think
this
is
great,
that
we're
doing
it.
I've,
you
know,
been
an
advocate
for
more
money
for
this
kind
of
program,
but
I'd
hate
to
get
it
wrong
coming
out
of
the
gate
and
then
not
have
it
work
and
that's
my
concern,
and
should
we
table
this
for
some
more
input?
I
know
that
you
guys
have
done
a
lot
of
work
on
this.
I'm
not
knocking
that.
N
A
So
so
the
answer:
can
you
table?
Yes,
what
the
the
reason
this
is
here
this
month
and
independently
on
the
agenda
for
next
week's
ura
board
to
prove
the
final
guidelines
is
the
moratorium.
The
eviction
moratorium
is
lifted
march
31st
and
we
do
need
to
do
an
rfp
once
the
guidelines
are
approved,
so
to
give
us
time
to
get
someone
in
place
or
a
couple
of
firms
in
place
by
march
31st
that
that
was
the
reason
it
is
here
in
front
of
you
today.
A
I
do
acknowledge
the
advisory
board
got
this
about
two
days
ago,
but
I
I
think
there
might
be
a
slide
that
lists
all
the
groups
that
me
and
his
staff
have
to,
and
that
was
really
what
the
delay
was
is
that
they
wanted
to
bring
in
yeah.
Here
you
go,
they
want
to
bring
in
all
these
these
groups
and
opinions
to
craft
it,
and-
and
so
that's
what
they
have
been
working
on
the
last
month.
J
I
I
actually
appreciate
all
the
knowledge
and
all
the
concerns
and
comments.
I
really
listen
to
jerome
and
mark
a
lot
and
hear
some
of
the
things
they
say,
but
I'm
really
concerned
that
there
are
people
waiting
for
this,
and-
and
I
just
don't
want
to
do
anything-
to
jeopardize
people
needing
help.
J
A
Sure
we
can
definitely
send
the
rfp
priorities
being
issued
and
and
jeremy.
You
would
need
to
speak
to
this
better
than
me,
but
but
jerome's
comments
about
mediation
and
if
it
could
be
part
of
the
homeowner,
the
homeowner
guidelines
I
mean.
Could
we
consider
adding
a
potential
portion
to
the
home
of
mediation
to
the
homeowner
guidelines
and
just
making
the
resolution
contingent
on
that.
D
I
I
don't
see
why
we
couldn't
look
into
that.
The
reason
we
didn't
is
when
we
talked
with
just
mediation,
homeowners
never
came
up
and
I'm
a
little
unclear
what
the
mediation
who
the
other
parties
would
be
in
that
mediation,
but
we
can
definitely
touch
base
with
them
and
see
if
that
makes
sense.
You
know
if
we
can
add
that
to
the
homeowners
section.
A
K
There
there
have
been
in
the
past,
there
has
been
mediations
between
mortgage
companies
and
and
and
homeowners.
I'm
also
thinking
that
it
is
good
around
the
you
know
with
tango
title
stuff
right,
because
we
literally
try
to
use
mediation
here
at
obb
to
to
handle
some
of
our
tangled
title
issues.
I
think
it's
good
for
that.
You
know,
as
I
said,
a
lot
of
times,
it
is
not
the
the
issue
that
is
put
up
in
front.
It
is
these
other
issues
that
are
really.
K
K
You
know,
you
know
it
could
be
a
number
of
different
areas
that
mediation
can
help
in.
You
know
so
that
that's
why
I'm
saying
it
should
be
an
option.
Some
homeowners
choose
it,
some
don't
and
this,
and
it's
sometimes
based
on
their
mortgage
company
some
mortgage.
Well,
most
mortgage
companies
should
have
mediation
as
part
of
their
service,
so
to
speak
when
they're,
when
they
are
filing
for.
K
Oh
wow,
the
world
was
just
like
right
on
the
tip
of
my
tongue,
so
foreclosure
so
in
foreclosure
prevention.
Mediation
is
also
a
service
that
most
mortgage
companies
provide
before
they
get
to.
You
know
any
other
legal
service,
so
it
is
I'm
just
saying
that
it
is
a.
It
is
a
possibility
that
mediation
can
help
before
people
get
to
court
as
it
relates
to
homeowners.
A
I
mean
so
that
that
could
be
a
possibility
if
we,
if
someone
wanted
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
it
contingent
upon
adding
mediation
as
an
eligible
use
of
funding
to
the
homeowner
guidelines
we
could
handle
it.
That
way.
Add
that
language
get
it
back
to
the
advisory
board
via
email
in
the
next
week
or
so.
A
But
if
we
do
want
to
be
prepared
for
the
march
31st
moratorium,
we
do
need
to
to
get
the
final
guidelines
to
the
ura
board
next
week.
F
O
D
She
also
just
sent
me
a
message
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
before.
That
motion
is
entertained,
that,
if
we're
entertaining
mediation
with
homeowners,
the
courts
have
to
be
involved
in
that
process,
and
I
would
just
want
to
touch
base
with
just
mediation
to
ensure
that
their
mediators
are
trained
in
that
process.
H
D
Yeah,
the
the
tentative
plan
was
the
february
12th
our
fee
day,
which
is
the
day
after
the
board
meeting.
But
we
can
certainly
push
that
to
ensure
that
there's
time
for
the
advisory
board
to
review
the
rfe.
H
If
we
could
push
that
maybe
a
week
to
get
to
get
into
the
weeds
a
little
bit
with
the
rfp
I
I
would.
I
would
appreciate
that
and
then
I
think
that
would
be
able
to
address
any
of
these.
You
know
smaller
issues
well,.
N
I
I'm
not
sure
that's
going
to
get
to
the
you
know
exclusive
non-payment
of
rent.
Maybe
we
amend
the
guidelines,
at
least
as
far
as
it's
concerning
the
services
for
tenants
in
the
coordinated
entry
in
in
the
mediating
at
mediation
and
in
the
legal
you
know
limited
and
full
legal
representation
that
we
maybe
look
at
a
dual
cause
that
it's
it's
non-payment
of,
rent
and
other
causes
or
something
if
it's
just
non-payment
or
rent.
It
is
not
going
to
work.
H
No,
absolutely
I
would
I
would.
I
would
make
that
motion
to
amend
to
either
dual
causes
or
recent
non-payment
of
rent
as
well.
So,
if
you're
caught
up
today
and
they
file
tomorrow,
it
would
technically
not
be
a
dual
cause
right.
So
I
would
I
would
make
that
that
motion
or
support
that
motion,
as
well
as
adding
mediation
to
the
to
the
homeowners
program,
which
I
think
which
also
especially
when
it
comes
to
tangled
title,
when
you're
trying
to
get
like
two.
You
know
two
sisters
to
get
one
one.
H
You
know
one
lives
there
and
one
doesn't.
That
would
be
a
prime
piece
for
mediation
to
get
one
to
you
know
to
transfer
amongst
family,
which
I
hadn't,
even
necessarily
thought
of
until
jerome
mentioned.
Oh
yeah.
This
is
family
issues.
That
is,
you
don't
need
to
show
up
with
a
lawyer
that
makes
people
mad
go
to
mediation
and
get
that
you
know
get
that
right.
So.
H
Yeah,
so
I
move
that
we
add
dual
dual
causes:
where
there
is
non-payment
of
rent
or
has
been
recent
non-payment
of
rent
as
causes
for
eviction
and
to
add
mediation
as
a
permissible
use
for
the
homeownership
tango,
title
and
or
foreclosure
prevention
program
to
go
to
the
ura
board
for
for
vote
on
those
guidelines.
A
Okay,
so
kelly
made
a
motion
and
mark
did
you
second.
D
A
In
march
seconds,
all
those
in
favor.
A
Okay
motion
carries.
Thank
you
everybody.
I
think
that
was
the
last
voting
item
on
the
agenda.
I
know
we
are
well
over
time,
so
I
will
fly
through
these
remaining
slides
jeremy
and
I
will
next
slide.
These
are
just
our
programmatic
expenditures,
we're
still
working
on
a
format
I
know
last
month
mark
x
for
for
the
maps
to
be
a
little
bit
less
busy.
So
this
month
we
have
the
program
separate,
but
we're
still
perfecting
format,
but
here's
the
down
payment,
closing
costs.
A
You
can
see
all
the
green
throughout
the
city
and
182
households
served
67
of
our
funding
through.
I
think
2020
has
been
committed
next
slide.
Homeowner
assistance
program
here
are
our
blue
dots
throughout
the
entire
city.
A
239
households
served
or
being
served
right
now
next
slide
and
then
on
the
development
side,
the
rental
gap
in
the
for
sale-
and
we
are
still
looking
for
ways
to
to
diversify
that
geographically
next
slide,
and
then
this
once
again
is
the
money
through
2020..
It
does
not
have
2021
money
on
here,
but
you
can
see
what
has
been
committed
and
closed
and
that
most
of
the
line
items
are
well
underway
to
being
committed.
The
4.5
here
on
rental
gap.
A
The
I
should
mention
that
the
north
side
project
you
saw
today
is
the
first
of
the
tax
credit
deals.
I
I
had
talked
to
the
advisory
board
a
few
months
ago
about
the
4.5
really
needs
to
go
to
to
fill
the
commitments
on
the
tax
credits
side
and
that's
the
first
one
that'll
be
coming
out
of
that
pot
of
money,
and
then
you
can
see
as
jeremy
mentioned
earlier
today.
You
know
we
do
have
2.9
almost
3
million
remaining
in
hsp
next
slide
and
then
the
program,
expenditures
and
impacts.
A
You
can
see
the
household
served.
So
you
know,
we've
talked
in
the
past
about
demonstration,
including
the
shelter,
but
if
you,
if
you
take
that
out,
we
are
still
at
about
2500
households
served.
If
you
add
those
three
columns
up
and
just
a
couple
of
general
housing
announcements.
Jeremy,
you
want
to
take
this.
D
Yeah
very
quickly
just
wanted
to
show
you
additional
hsp
funding
awards
that
we
will
be
bringing
to
the
uav
board
meeting
next
week.
None
of
this
is
hof
funding
and
then
a
quick
update.
The
community
engagement
ambassador
service.
We
are
going
to
extend
it
for
another
three
months
going
into
april.
This
will
just
ensure
that
there's
not
a
lapse
of
coverage
as
the
county
program
gets
up
and
running,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
adrian
for
her
leadership
of
the
cea
program.
A
L
I
know
we
we're
at
the
very
end
of
a
very
long
meeting,
but
I
think
today's
conversation
demonstrates
the
need
for
us
as
a
board
to
get
materials,
early
process,
materials
early
and
potentially
submit
questions
and
concerns
prior
to
the
meeting,
so
that
some
of
the
more
administrative
items
can
be
talked
about.
We
can
get
some
clarity
before
we're
coming
together
in
these
settings
with.
L
You
know,
just
a
wealth
of
questions,
and
I
know
that
everybody's
busy,
but
just
having
a
little
bit
more
information
ahead
of
time,
even
if
that's
a
report
back
from
board
members
to
conversations
that
they
had
with
the
ura
like
this
legal
set
of
conversations.
There
are
several
board
members
of
the
hof
that
participated
and
maybe
there's
some
way
that
we
can
get
some
notes
or
some
updates
so
that
we're
really
ready
to
be
pointed
targeted
and
make
intelligent
decisions,
and
also
being
incredibly
mindful
of
some
of
these
tight
timelines.
A
J
And
I
just
want
to
mention
that
I
just
see
that
we're
putting
up
this.
You
know
2-1
to
call
2-1-1
again
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
some
input
from
them.
Some
feedback,
some
data
from
them,
because
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
people
that
call
here
and
they're,
not
necessarily
getting
the
help.
I
see
our
numbers,
I
and
I
understand
what
we're
saying,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
combination
of
things
that
people
are
calling
for.
A
Okay,
jeremy:
let's
work
on
getting
getting
the
data
to
the
advisory
board.