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From YouTube: Inclusion Counts
Description
On this episode of Inclusion Counts, Rick Williams interviews Erin Conley and Karen Hall from the Equal Opportunity Review Commission.
A
Hello
welcome
to
inclusion
counts.
My
name
is
rick
williams.
I'm
the
business
inclusion
manager
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
office
of
equity
office
of
mayor,
william
peduto
inclusion
counts,
is
a
show
that
educates
informs
and
inspires
minority
women
and
veteran
contractors
across
the
state
of
pennsylvania,
with
a
local
focus.
A
A
A
A
B
The
role
of
the
erc
commission
is,
to
you
know,
count
for
checks
and
balances
and
make
sure
that
all
of
the
authorities
for
the
city
and
the
contracts
that
go
through
the
city
are
meeting
their
participation
goals
as
it
pertains
to
wbe
and
mbe
businesses.
B
We
we
look
to
have
prime
contractors
sub
out
to
dbes
and
we
check
and
make
sure
that
they're
doing
that
and
they're
at
least
trying
to
reach
their
goals,
if
not
ex,
hitting
the
goals
or
exceeding
the
goals
and
the
way
we
do.
That
is
we
make
sure
that,
if
they're
not
hitting
the
goals,
then
they
have
to
show
us
all
the
processes
that
they
took,
that
they
went
to
and
all
the
efforts,
a
good
faith
effort
that
they
took
to.
B
I'll
use
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
as
an
example,
they
have
a
bidders
list
that
any
company
can
go
on
and-
and
you
know,
fill
out
the
application
and
get
on
that
bidder's
list
and
anytime
there's
a
contract.
That's
coming
up
for
that
needs
a
proposal
and
that
they're
accepting
proposals
will
go
out
via
email
to
any
anybody.
That's
on
that
bidder's
list
and
gives
them
the
full
scope
to.
B
So
as
long
as
they're
really
making
that
effort
to
reach
out
giving
these
businesses
an
opportunity
to
be
involved,
have
a
shot
at
getting
this
these
contracts
and
then
following
up
to
make
sure
that
that
they
are,
you
know,
have
gotten
the
information
that
they've
had
a
fair
shot
at
getting
getting
involved
in
the
project
and
having
a
shot
at
being
granted
the
project
and
the
contract.
I
should
say.
A
You
know
one
thing
I
I
didn't
mention
in
the
intro
both
of
you
have
been
on
this
commission
for
a
long
time.
I
know
aaron
has
been
on
through
the
previous
administration
prior
to
mayor
peduto,
and
then
karen
has
been
on
since
the
new
administration
has
has
came
and
taken
office
here.
C
A
B
C
Sure,
well
again,
I
appreciate
being
on
the
show
and
aaron
did
such
a
phenomenal
job
in
explaining
our
role
as
eorc
commissioners
and
I've
been
on
since
2015,
and
many
changes
have
occurred
since
I've
been
on
from
our
chairs
to
what
actually
happens
in
and
about
the
eorc,
namely
the
participation
of
authorities
that
have
come
before
us.
C
We've
had
subcommittees
that
we
form
such
as
the
policy
and
bylaw
committee
to
make
sure
that,
as
erc
commissioners
and
those
authorities
that
come
before,
that
we
follow
the
code
of
177
a
and
that's
been
sort
of
like
our
guide
when
these
authorities
come
before
us.
But
the
subcommittee
in
which
I
had
a
role
in
coordinating
and
really
helping
that
go
off
was
the
wbe
round
table.
We
did
that
for
two
years,
and
I
know
we
did
one
at
the
hill
house.
C
That
was
our
first
kickoff,
which
was
phenomenal,
and
let
me
explain
that
wbe
roundtable
was
really
to
help
those
minority
owned
businesses
who
maybe
want
to
be
certified,
but
have
yet
to
understand
the
processes.
C
What
procurement
is
and
that
role
in
becoming
a
certified
mbe
wbe,
like
that,
was
the
main
purpose
of
us
bringing
women
together
and
they
were
so
grateful
and
the
turnout
for
the
first
annual
at
the
hill
house
was.
It
was
very
exciting
and
a
great
turnout.
You
know
the
2016
if
I'm
correct
and
aaron
help
me
out.
If
I'm
misinforming
dates
here,.
C
And
again
it
was
needed
because
we
seen
that
there
were
so
many
women
who
have
businesses
but
because
they're
not
certified.
That
was
an
awakening
for
them
to
understand
the
process,
and
then
we
had
our
second
at
chatham
university,
and
actually
it
grew.
So
you
know
you
start
annual.
You
start
from
some
some
place,
but
then
one
at
chatham
grew
and
we
added
more
vendors
to
that
roundtable
at
chatham.
B
I'm
going
to
interrupt
for
one
second,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
piggyback
off
of
what
dr
hall
just
said,
that
that
could
be
an
overwhelming.
B
You
know
kind
of
task
for
women-owned
businesses
and
minority-owned
businesses
honestly
to
get
certified
just
the
perception
of
it
is
that
it's
very
cumbersome
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
that
that
needs
to
be
involved.
So
this
this
forum
really
helped
explain
it
walk
them
through
the
process,
it
became
less
intimidating
and
allowed
for
more
more
minority-owned
businesses
to
be
certified,
which
is
required
to
be
on
a
contract
with
any
of
the
city
authorities.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
we'll
we'll
go
back
to
you
aaron.
You
know,
through
that
work
of
the
erc
and
and
through
both
of
your
leadership
on
on
those
projects.
Have
we
seen
it
increase
for
the
participation
for
minorities
and
women
in
2019?
I
know
2020
has
just
left
off,
so
we
may
not
have
numbers
for
that.
But
what
can
you
share
with
the
inclusion
count?
Viewers.
B
B
We
had
great
participation,
you
know,
there's
just
a
there's,
just
an
energy
and
a
vibe
that
it's
all
everything's
moving
in
in
the
right
direction
with
the
city
with
the
authorities
2019,
I
do
have
those
numbers
we
we
ended
up
with
17
mbe
and
33
wbe
in
2019,
and
the
increase
in
the
wbe
was
due
to
the
growing
number
of
wwbe
as
prime
contractors,
which
is
really
awesome.
B
That's
that's
what
we
hope,
for
I
mean
yeah,
it's
great
to
be
a
sub
and
get
that
contract,
but
if
we
could
really
support
these
minority-owned
businesses
and
women-owned
businesses
to
the
point
where
they
become
grow
enough
to
be
prime
contractors
and
then
they're
picking
their
subs,
which
they're
going
to
remember
where
they
came
from
and
how
much
support
they
got
so
they're
going
to
turn
around
and
really
pay
it
forward,
which
is
the
mission
of
the
erc.
B
A
A
Now
this
is
awesome
karen,
dr
hall,
do
you
want
to
share
anything
in
regards
to
that
space
as
we're
seeing
kind
of
moving
forward
with
the
commission?
Is
there
it
seems
like
it's
a
evolving
process
here?
What
things
do
you
see
kind
of
moving
forward
for
the
erc.
C
Yeah
well,
aaron
did
a
great
job
in
talking
about
the
growth
of
eorc,
and
you
know
you
can
always
improve
right.
So
one
thing
for
sure
would
be
those
checks
and
balances
of
our
primes,
like
after
the
work
or
actually
during
their
work
and
after
the
work
that
either
they
report
out
or
come
back
before
the
commissioners
and
talk
about.
This
is
what
we
did
based
on
the
scope
of
our
work
prior
to
being
accepted
by
the
commission
to
do
the
work-
and
this
is
what
our
subs
were
able
to
get
out
of
this.
C
That's
really
important,
because
you
want
to
have
purpose
and
when
we
are
saying
to
these
primes
that
please
go
ahead
and
do
the
work
that
they
are
doing
the
scope
of
work
that
they
mentioned
and
that
their
subs
are
actually
getting
the
work
also
and
being
rewarded
for
their
work
and
also
another
thing.
I'd
like
to
see
moving
forward
is
some
more
participation
by
other
authorities.
A
That's
awesome,
yeah,
and
I
think
that
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
I
think
that
you
know
under
the
the
leadership
of
mayor
peduto,
allowing
that
to
happen.
The
different
type
of
collaborative
programming
and
funding
and
capacity
and
capacity
building
opportunities
are
in
that
space.
Now
that
allows
that
freedom
to
do
things
and
also
we've
also
had
conversations
with
procurement
in
how
we
change
our
procurement
processes
to
allow
more
participation,
development
of
primes
minority
primes,
as
as,
as
aaron
had
mentioned,
on
those
contracts
with
the
growth
last
year,.
C
A
C
I'll
go
I'll
start,
you
know.
That's
such
a
loaded
question.
You
know,
that's
like
leadership,
there's
not
one
answer
to
that
question,
but
you
know
I
would
sum
it
up
as
being
able
to
give
opportunity
to
marginalized
minority
groups
and
giving
giving
minorities
and
disadvantaged
crews
opportunities
and
resources
that
maybe
they
would
not
have
otherwise
and
having
access,
but
first
before
access.
C
You
have
to
know
that
it's
happening
so
that
that's
how
I
would
sum
up
inclusion,
because
it's
such
an
impactful
concept,
but
it's
actually
given
resources,
access
and
knowledge
to
marginalized
groups.
B
Well,
here's
here's
my
thought
about
this
is
what
pops
into
my
head,
when
I
think
about
inclusion
and
where
and
where
we
need
to
go
with
it
as
a
city.
Pittsburgh
is
a
small
town,
big
city,
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
glad
handing
along
the
way.
It's
just
tradition.
It's
been
in
a
tradition
of
nepotism,
and
you
know
these
relationships
that
were
that
are
built
and
then
they're.
B
They
always
give
those
companies
always
give
the
work
to
those
companies,
and
I
get
that
I
mean
relationships
are-
are
important
me
as
a
salesperson.
I
I
rely
on
them
for
sure,
but
if
that
continues
in
that
fashion,
then
there's
no
opportunities
for
small
businesses,
more
specifically
minority
businesses.
So
you
have
to
you
have
to
break
that
cycle.
B
You
have
to
break
that
chain
and
really,
you
know,
push
forward
to
have
inclusion,
which
is
getting
these
other
small
businesses
the
opportunity,
if
they're,
if
they
don't
get
a
shot,
they're,
never
going
to
grow
their
business.
So
somebody
had
to
step
in,
and
you
know,
break
that
cycle
of
the
old
boys
club
and
glad
handing-
and
you
know
I'm
gonna-
give
to
my
son-in-law
and
that
type
of
thing
and
nepotism,
and
that
was
that's
really
why
this
was
formed
in
the
first
place.
B
A
And
that's
why
mayor
peduto
selected
both
of
you
to
be
on
and
be
part
of
the
leadership
of
the
erc
and
with
that
said,
I
thank
both
of
you
for
spending
your
time,
your
talent
and
your
vision
for
the
erc
and
the
minority,
women
and
veteran
community
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.