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From YouTube: A Final Interview with Mayor Peduto
Description
For the final time as Pittsburgh's mayor, William Peduto answers questions from John McIntire and the City Channel.
A
B
A
B
I
think
it
will
be
viewed
as
sort
of
like
a
bridge.
You
know
that
there
was
an
era
of
time
that
pittsburgh
fell.
You
know
I
was,
I
was
lucky
enough
to
be
a
kid
in
the
1970s
and
it
was
a
pretty
glorious
time
period.
You
know
you,
you
have
four
super
bowls.
You
have
two
world
series,
an
nc
double
a
championship
with
pitt
and
an
economic
boom
of
the
steel
industry.
Pittsburgh
was
the
third
largest
corporate
center
of
the
united
states,
new
york,
chicago
pittsburgh,
and
then
boy
did
we
fall
hard.
B
B
You
know
the
young
people
were
just
leaving
neighborhoods
that
we
now
see
phases
of
gentrification
and
lawrenceville
and
east
liberty
were
hollowed
out.
People
were
leaving
for
far
different
reasons.
They
were
leaving
because
of
the
crime
and
the
the
the
the
blight,
and
we
we
slowly
started
to
pick
ourselves
around
around
2000
and
pick
ourselves
up,
2000
2005..
B
But
I
think
that
what
you
saw
was
the
the
turn
happened
during
this
past
decade
and
during
this
past
decade
you
saw
really
a
transformation
occur
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
a
new
economy
that
was
based
off
of
education
and
medicine,
and
technology
took
over
for
that
old
economy
that
was
based
upon
manufacturing.
A
B
There
were
economic
deals
being
done
and
there
are
only
a
handful
of
developers
that
would
even
enter
into
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
do
any
type
of
land
transition.
Now,
there's
countless
developers
from
all
over
the
country
that
are
developing
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
they
understand
that
it
is
no
longer
a
closed
market
but
a
very
open
and
very
open
process.
B
A
This
has
got
to
feel
somewhat
liberating
for
you
this.
I
know
you
enjoyed
being
there
very
much,
but
a
lot
of
responsibility
off
your
back
all
of
a
sudden,
and
it
also
must
feel
just
kind
of
weird
because
you
spent
a
lifetime
in
public
service
from
being
a
city
council
aide
to
a
city
council
person
to
two-term
mayor.
That's
exactly
how
it
feels.
B
So
I
I
I
would
say
that
it
is
far
from
depressing
there.
You
know
I
I
still
want
you
know
as
we
sit
here
today,
there's
less
than
two
weeks
and
I'm
still
getting
the
you
know
leaves
in
the
catch
basin
type
of
requests
on
a
daily
basis
and
I'm
just
going
11
days
11
days
so,
but
at
that
same
time
you
know
I
it's
more
of
an
anxiety
sort
of
like
the
shawshank
redemption.
B
Can
I
survive
outside
of
prison?
You
know,
I
don't
know
you
know.
Peduto
was
here,
you
know
I
I
sort
of
like
I
I
worry
about
you
know
the
comfort
of
this
building.
B
B
And
you
know
I'm
going
to
be
facing
all
of
that
within
days
and
starting
an
entire
new
career
at
that
same
time.
So
there's
that's
a
lot
of
anxiety,
more
so
than
looking
back
with
some
sort
of
sentimental
viewpoint,
and
so
I'm
more
worried
about
how
I'm
going
to
approach
the
new
life
than
the
loss
of
what
had
been.
B
No,
no!
No!
I
I
have
a
good
idea
of
what
I'll
be
doing
I'll
I'll,
make
it
more
clear
once
the
rest
of
my
staff
has
had
the
opportunity
to
say
what
they're
going
to
be
doing
earlier.
This
week,
my
chief
of
staff,
dan
gilman,
announced
that
he
will
be
the
senior
advisor
and
then
the
chief
of
staff
to
president
gormley
at
duquesne
university.
B
I
still
have
a
few
other
key
administrative
people
who
will
be
making
their
announcements
over
the
course
of
the
next
10
days
of
what
they'll
be
doing
and
once
they've
been
making
their
announcements.
Then
I'll
be
the
last
to
announce.
B
A
B
B
When
you
come
in
or
it's
in
a
church
basement
or
it's
it's
it's.
It
doesn't
matter
where
it
is,
there's
something
that
is
so
much
different.
When
you're
the
mayor
than
when
you're
a
city
council,
member,
a
state
representative,
a
state
senator
or
whatever
the
office
is,
there's
there's
some
reverence.
That's
given
to
mayors
governors,
you
know,
and
it
just
when
somebody
smiles
at
you.
B
A
Know
I've
tried
to
get
you
for
years
to
stop
reading
the
comment
section.
Is
that
still
something
you're
able
to
do?
Can
you
not
read
the
comment
sections,
or
do
you
still
constantly
rifle
through
them?
I.
B
A
Yeah
is
that
pretty
much
what
you
hear
when
you
could
hear
them?
Yes,
it
sounded
like
yeah.
What's
the
best
perk
about
being
there,
I
know
you
got
a
great
parking
spot.
That's
it!
Oh!
That's
it
yeah.
B
B
B
B
B
These
were
the
areas
that
he
had
won
considerably
that
we
would
not
make
the
difference
up,
and
so
I
gave
him
some
advice
that
night,
which.
B
It
was
was
not
really
advice,
but
just
a
congratulatory
sentiment
and
then,
when
we
sat
down
a
few
weeks
ago,
we
sat
down
personally
just
he
and
I
in
the
office.
While
the
staff
met
around
this
table
and
we
talked
for
nearly
an
hour-
and
you
know
he
he
was
curious
about
it.
You
know,
just
you
know,
what's
what
are
the
good
parts?
What
are
the
bad
parts
and
sort
of
the
stuff
that
you're
asking
about,
but
really
getting
a
little
bit
more
into
the
details?
B
And
I
gave
him
just
really
a
heartfelt
sentiment,
but
it's
going
to
be
different
for
him
and-
and
I
told
him
that
I
said
you
will
be
judged
differently,
because
you
will
be
the
first
black
mayor
and
I
said
and
and
he
he
understood
what
I
was
saying.
There
will
be
people
who
will
judge
him
and
give
him
a
little
bit
more
room.
B
And
then
there
will
be
those
that
will
judge
him
harshly
and
and
he
knew
that
he
will
have
a
much
harder
time
than
I,
because
he
is
not
only
a
husband.
But
he
is
a
father
and
his
responsibilities
will
be
much
harder
than
a
bachelor
in
being
able
to
keep
both
the
responsibilities
of
the
office
and
the
responsibilities
of
a
family.
B
And
we
we
went
into
a
little
bit
of
that
that
discussion
and
then
we
just
tired
talking
about
the
job
itself.
And
you
can't
compare
it
to
a
city
council,
member
or
a
state
rep.
They
are
completely
different
industries
and
we
we
went
into
that
and
what
to
expect
of
yourself
and
then
what
to
expect
of
your
staff
and
how
to
delineate
and
be
able
to
trust
your
staff
to
be
able
to
do
the
job.
A
It
seems
like
to
me
all
politicians
are
judged
much
more
harshly
than
perhaps
ever
before,
and
mayor
gainey
will
have
his
share
of
inquisitors
and
people
who
are
not
on
his
side.
There
were
already
protesters
outside
his
house
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
he's
not
even
mayor
yet
yeah.
So
it's
a
good
time
to
get
out
in.
In
that
sense,
it.
B
Absolutely
is
it
I,
I,
the
the
world
that
I
entered
into
politics
in
in
the
late
1980s
and
the
early
90s
is
gone.
It's
gone.
I
have
a
friend
who,
who
put
it
very
succinctly.
B
We
have
become
hardwired
to
binary
decision
making,
meaning
that,
if
you
like
this,
you
must
hate
this.
If,
if
you
like
this,
you
can't
like
this
or
you
can't
even
say
that
there's
a
couple
of
good
ideas
about
this,
because
then
you
you're
a
sellout
or
you
might
as
well
just
like
this,
because
we
don't
want
you
anymore.
You
know
it's
it's
you
you
have
to.
B
If
you
like
ford,
you
must
hate
chevy.
If
you
use
a
samsung,
you
must
hate
apple.
You
know
it's,
it's
it's
in.
It
permeates
down
into
politics
where
everything
has
become
polarized
and
then
on
the
extremes
on
the
left
and
on
the
right.
It
is
the
extremes
that
are
driving
the
the
discussion
and
the
extremes
are
creating
these
litmus
tests
and
if
you
don't
meet
every
part
of
the
litmus
test,
then
you're
not
real,
and
these
extremes
are
impossible
to
govern
by
they're
impossible.
B
You
cannot
govern
by
extremism,
nor
by
philosophy
you
have
to
govern
by
reality
and
it's
not
healthy,
and
what
you
start
to
see
is
the
bending
of
the
ark,
where
the
extremes
then
start
to
be
able
to
have
commonality
where
the
commonality
is.
We
hate
the
establishment
we
hate.
You
know
these
different
things
that
are
the
power
and
where
the
the
the
commonality
of
the
far
left
and
the
far
right
start
to
melt
together
and
that's
that
is
where
the
danger
is
was.
A
That
a
weird
journey
for
you,
because
you
were
once
the
progressive
outsider,
the
establishment
was
more
conservative
and
less
progressive
and
you
were
the
upstart
and
then
suddenly
you're
you're,
the
the
man,
the
the
bad
man,
because
you're
the
establishment.
B
Well,
that
happened
all
across
the
country
right.
It
was
all
of
my
fellow
mayors
who
became
the
bad
person
bill
de
blasio
working
families.
Number
one
supporter
you
know,
and
the
the
farthest
left
mayor
of
new
york
city
is
now
considered.
Like
donald
trump,
I
mean
it's
like
eric
garcetti
in
l.a,
lori
lightfoot,
you
know
in
in
chicago
I
mean
these
were
all
the
the
progressive
leaders
there.
B
Protests
that
divided
the
left
and,
I
think
purposefully.
So
so
I
would
take
you
one
step
further.
When
you
say
you
know
you
were
the
progressive
between
2000
and
2010
politically
in
allegheny
county.
I
would
say
that
my
candidacy
and
the
political
group
that
I
put
together
led
the
progressive
movement
in
allegheny
county
and
because
of
that
bruce
kraus,
daniel
lavelle,
natalia
rudiak.
At
the
time.
B
B
B
B
So
if
you
take
me
back
10
to
12
years-
and
you
know
back
in
the
day
of
the
ravenstahl
administration
and
the
old
city
council
and
say
when
we
were
sit
on
your
show-
hey
you're,
going
to
be
the
next
mayor
and
not
only
that
but
you're
going
to
end
up
losing
to
the
first
black
mare
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
who's
going
to
be
even
more
progressive
under
a
more
progressive
slate
than
you
are
on.
I
don't
know.
I
never
would.
B
So
no
I
I
just
there's
so
much.
We
did
we.
You
know
I
I
I
mistakenly
a
couple
of
interviews
ago
said:
there's,
there's
hundreds
of
things
that
we've
done,
there's
hundreds
of
programs
and
projects
we
created
that
will
last
beyond
our
time
in
this
office.
I
was
wrong.
There
are
thousands,
I
mean
you
can
take
one
little
pixel
of
city
government
like
recycling
and
you
can
find
five
or
six
different
accomplishments
that
we
we
didn't,
have
blue
garbage
cans.
B
B
We
built
the
largest
park
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
history,
but
within
parks.
We
also
have
created
a
whole
storm
water
management
program
that
we're
working
with
the
university
of
pennsylvania
to
employ
underserved
communities
and
hire
the
people
in
order
to
be
able
to
create
that
storm
water
management
program
to
be
able
to
create
green
areas
throughout
our
city
neighborhoods.
B
In
order
to
be
able
to
have
less
flooding,
I
mean
every
part
of
city
government
even
to
the
parts
where,
when
we
didn't
have
the
capacity
to
do
what
we
needed
to
do,
we
created
entirely
new
departments,
the
department
of
innovation
and
performance,
the
cable
bureau.
We
overhauled
it
and
invested
millions
into
getting
it
into
the
21st
century,
you're
paying
these
photographers.
B
I'm
trying
to
think
of
all
the
departments
we
created,
but
the
idea
is
in
those
eight
years
transf
the
transformation
was.
We
took
a
city
government
that
was
basically
the
same
as
the
city
government
of
david
lawrence
and
we
built
a
city
government
in
order
to
be
able
to
meet
the
challenges
of
today.
B
A
So
as
you've
made
clearing
during
this
conversation,
you're
big
on
green
energy,
you're
worried
always
been
worried
about
climate
change,
as
society
hopefully
decides
to
take
climate
change
more
seriously.
As
time
goes
on,
do
you
think
you'll
be
viewed
less
harshly
regarding
bike
lanes.
B
By
claims,
so
I
asked
a
friend
you
know
because
he
brought
up
bike
lanes
and
I
was
I
was
talking
to
him
and
we
were
doing
like
that:
goodbye,
not
goodbye
conversation
and
and
they're
like
how
the
hell
did
it
bike
lanes
again.
We
spent
like
far
less
than
one
tenth
of
one
percent
of
the
budget
on
these
things
and
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
like
you,
know,
bike
lane
billy.
You
know,
and
he
said
you
know
it's
better.
B
Potentially
yeah,
but
anyway
it's
it's.
Okay,
number
one!
It's
a
cultural
issue
right,
it's
them!
Yuppies,
they're,
bikes
them
fancy,
bikes
and
they're;
they're,
riding
them
fancy
bikes
around
and
taking
my
my
road
away
from
me.
A
B
There's
probably
a
few
other
things,
but
he
said
to
me.
He
said
you
know
the
way
I
see
it.
He
goes
all
of
a
sudden.
Pittsburgh
seemed
downtown
pittsburgh.
Scenes
is
different,
it
seems
cleaner,
it
seems
more
european,
it
seems
like
a
slower
pace,
more
walkable,
and
now
I
see
more
people
using
them.
I
see
more
people
walking,
I
see
more
people
out
like
pre-pandemic
and
the
city
seemed
more
vibrant
when
we
had
them
and
pre-pandemic,
and
I
explained
that
you
know
with
that.
B
So
much
I,
I
also
have
this
knowledge
that
the
job's
never
done.
I
mean
you
never
get
to
the
point
where
it's
like.
It's
perfect,
you
know.
So
a
really
good
friend
told
me
that
you
know
after
I
lost
the
campaign.
I
I
was
not
happy.
You
know
it's.
It's
not
like.
Oh
thank
god
lost
that
one
yeah.
B
B
Like
my
gosh,
you
know
you,
you
were
in
the
trenches
with
me
10
years
ago,
when
we
were
fighting
for
all
of
these
different
things
and
now
you're,
not
remembering
it,
and
then
you
have
this
whole
generation
that
wasn't
around
10
years
ago
and
they're,
basically
calling
you
out
for
something
that
you
never
were
and
completely
redefining
you
and
there's
nothing
that
you
can
do
to
change
that.
And
it's
not
like
the
old
days
where
you
can
change
someone's
opinion
with
a
television
ad.
It
doesn't
work.
B
B
B
B
A
B
Came
up
to
me
at
the
one
point
in
the
show,
and
he
he
had
been
struggling
at
that
point
and
it
was.
It
was
rough
to
be
there
with
him,
because
I
I
could
see
how
weak
he
had
become
and
we
lost
him
26
days
later
on
my
birthday
24
days
later,
and
he
just
put
his
arms
around
me
from
behind
and
he
just
held
me,
and
he
just
said.
I
love
you
and
I
knew
I
just
knew
right
at
that
moment.
B
This
will
be
probably
the
last
time
that
I
have
the
opportunity
to
be
with
them.
I
probably
won't
be
with
them
at
christmas,
but
yeah,
definitely
more
music.
Once
we
get
past
omicron,
definitely
just
more
being
able
to
walk
the
street,
get
a
cup
of
coffee
and
be
with
friends
and
definitely
slowing
my
life
down.
B
You
know,
I
think
that
once
you
hit
60,
that
option
is
not
optional,
but
I
just
have
been.
A
That's
really
depressing,
but
probably
true,
yeah
wow,
so
I'm
not
trying
to
be
inappropriate
here,
but
I
recently
consulted
a
therapist.
You
just
lost
three
loved
ones
in
an
election.
Have
you
considered
therapy?
I
have.
B
I
haven't
in
my
life
I
mean
it's
anybody
that
knows
me
would
probably
see
it.
You
know
I,
with
the
way
that
I
go
with
ups
and
downs.
It's
probably
not
too
far
stretched
to
see
that
I
I
struggle
or
deal
with
parts
of
depression.
B
B
And
I've
basically
taken
care
of
that
through
myself
and
by
understanding
who
I
am,
but
I
think
it's
probably
time
as
I
make
that
transition
into
the
next
phase
to
be
able
to
get
a
fresh
start,
and
you
know
I
know
some
really
great
docs-
that
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
throughout
my
my
time,
even
before
being
mayor
that
I
would
really
appreciate
their
knowledge
in
being
able
to
deal
with
it.
B
You
know
it's
like
my
sister-in-law
had
said
to
me
too
she's,
like
you
know
you
you're,
you're,
very
strong
and-
and
I
I
put
that
strength
to
faith-
I'm
not
devout
when
it
comes
to
religion,
but
I
am
extremely
strong
when
it
comes
to
spiritual
faith
and
I
do
believe
in
god,
so
that
part
has
always
held
me
in
a
very
strong
position.
B
But
at
the
same
time
you
cannot
suppress,
and
I
have-
and
it's
been
the
work
that
has
gotten
me
through
the
the
intensity.
But
you
have
to
understand
that.
During
the
same
time
I
was
losing
my
mother,
my
two
brothers
and
the
election.
I
dealt
with
the
collapse
of
pwsa.
B
A
B
B
Beautiful
table
wonderful-
and
this
is
all
miss
this
table.
I
often
would
think
when
I'd
sit
around
it.
This
is
where
david
lawrence
used
to
sit,
and
you
can
imagine
all
the
ashtrays
back
along
those
days,
and
this
is
where
sophie
and
dekala
jury
sat
and
all
the
others,
but
they
didn't
have
sinkholes
that
ate
buses.
A
All
true
wow,
I
just
I
feel
like
your
head
just-
must
be
spinning.
B
B
B
If
I
were
to
write
a
book
during
the
next
year,
it
would
be
called
through
these
eyes
and
it
would
be
the
story
of
the
comeback
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
from
the
kid
who
lived
next
door
to
lowell
macdonald,
who
played
for
the
pittsburgh
penguins
and
got
to
grow
up
playing
little
league
with
roberto
clemente
jr
to
the
to
the
guy
who
became
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
B
A
B
B
I'm
gonna
open
up
all
my
blinds
like
sit
there
with
my
phones,
calling
people,
you
know
and
just
saying:
let
it
snow,
let
it
snow,
let
it
snow.
I
used
to
love
snow
as
a
kid,
so
I
went
to
chartres
valley,
high
school.
I
used
to
sit
there
listening
to
kdk
radio
eating
my
cereal
it'd
be
like
shark
tears,
cancelled,
chartiers,
houston,
cancelled
charters,
valley,
two-hour
delay,
oh
man,
so,
but
no
now
I
get
to
become
human
again.
Will.
B
A
All
right:
well,
are
there
any
other
reflections
you
have
just
in
general,
just
in
your
amazing
time
being
the
most
powerful
person
in
the
city
government
having
to
balance
a
billion
different
things
at
once,.
B
Just
the
opportunity
of
a
lifetime-
I
I
think
back
of
you
know
growing
up
in
scott
township
and
thinking
that
I'd
one
day
want
to
be
the
mayor
of
pittsburgh
without
any
idea
how
that
dream
could
ever
happen
and
being
raised
by
an
italian
immigrant
who
had
a
second
grade
education
and
my
grandfather,
and
you
know
that
would
be
something
that
he'd
never
think
would
be
possible
and
it
happened.
So
no
regrets
just
a
lot
of
gratitude
and
a
lot
of
fun
memories.
B
You
thank
you
for
giving
me
your
trust
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
out
and
about.
A
Well,
as
you
know,
I'm
a
fan,
and
I
think
you
have
a
tremendous
legacy
and
a
lot
to
be
proud
of,
and
I
think
you're
getting
out
while
the
getting
is
good
and
good
for
you
yeah
all
right
buddy.
Thank
you,
mayor
peduto.
Thank
you
so
much
and
that's
it
for
this
program.
The
final
city
channel
interview
with
mayor
peduto,
I'm
john
mcintyre,
we'll
see
you
down
the
road.