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A
A
B
Yes,
so
we
currently,
we
have
these
Commissioners
present
Denise
D
Simone
Jan,
Hammond,
Billy,
heilman,
Sue,
Kerr,
Lenny,
orbovich,
Shantae,
Porter,
Christopher,
Robinson,
Marcus,
Robinson
and
Sarah
Rosso,
so
we
have
reached
Quorum.
I
will
keep
track
to
see
if
any
other
Commissioners
arrive.
A
Okay,
the
first
order
is
the
approval
of
the
September
15th
minutes.
Any
changes.
A
So
on
to
the
reports
of
the
officers,
boards
and
standing
committees,
first
for
the
co-chairs.
C
Okay,
the
Pirates
quarterly
meeting
I
have
reached
out
to
the
Pirates
and
they
had
asked
me
to
give
them
some
dates
which
I
did
I
have
not
yet
heard
back
from
them.
Their
season
ended,
I,
think
a
little
early
and
hopefully
we'll
get
some
more
information
from
them.
So
I'll
I
hope
that
we
can
meet
with
her
before
the
end
of
the
year.
C
The
lgbtq
liaison
in
the
Pittsburgh
Police
Department
Sarah,
Marcus
and
I,
put
together
a
request
which
we
sent
by
email
to
the
acting
Chief
Tom
St
Thomas
sandraki,
and
asking
him
to
fill
this
position
because
it
it's
exists
and
it
was
filled
until
April,
and
so
it's
been
vacant.
We
did
not
get
a
response.
I
didn't
expect
to
quickly,
but
will
continue
to
follow
up
with
that
and
also
ask
the
mayor's
office
about
their
plans
to
have
a
liaison
in
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
in
general.
C
C
D
C
Important
that
we
have
a
police
officer
because
they
have
access
to
lots
of
databases
that
no
civilian
in
the
city
can
access
and
also
because
they
have
rapport
with
the
other
officers
who
we
need
to
communicate
with.
So.
C
C
But
you
know
these
are
pretty
hierarchical
departments,
so
somebody
who's
a
civilian,
but
a
manager
in
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
we'd
have
to
ask
Maria
but
I'm.
Just
speculating
I
am
saying,
though,
I
advocate
that
the
police
have
an
actual
police
officer
as
a
liaison.
C
I
think
you
know
as
we're
seeing
increases
in
crime
incidents
and
then
just
the
shooting
that
just
happened
on
the
north
side.
This
past
weekend,
two
civilians
were
killed,
I
mean
well,
three
people
were
killed,
I'm,
sorry,
not
not
two,
three,
that
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
have
access
to.
So
we
could
prevent
that,
hopefully
from
happening
in
our
community.
E
That's
my
update
and
yeah
I
reached
out
to
one
of
the
staffers
in
the
mayor's
office
to
get
in
to
get
that
moving.
So,
hopefully,
you're
gonna
hear
back
later
this
week
for
an
update
there,
but
no
update
right
now.
C
May
I
write
something
we
talked
on
via
email
that
we
need
to
talk
about
the
way
that
the
mayor,
gainey's
Administration,
is
communicating
with
us
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
the
appropriate
place
or
if
there's
a
different
point
in
the
agenda.
That
would
be
something
we
should
discuss
because
it
might
be
a
new
business
yeah.
A
B
Yeah
I
I
emailed
to
each
of
you,
but
it
was
just
prior
to
the
meeting
so
I'm
expecting
that
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
I'm,
not
expecting
that
you
that
you
have
what
I'm
doing
is
proposing
a
bylaws
change
that
would
assist
us
somewhat
with
reaching
Quorum
not
greatly,
but
somewhat
it
does.
It
would
do
two
things.
What
I'll
do
is
just
tell
you
about
it
shortly
here,
so
that
we
don't
take
a
lot
of
time
on
this
packed
agenda.
B
You
have
it
in
your
email
with
a
brief
explanation
and
then
I'll.
Unless
somebody
comes
up
with
a
better
idea,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
it
to
adopt
the
bylaws
change
at
the
November
meeting,
but
in
short,
what
it
would
do
is.
B
It
would
just
simply
not
include
three
seats
when
we
calculate
Quorum,
either
in
the
whether
the
person
is
present
or,
most
importantly,
in
the
total
number
of
Commissioners,
and
that
would
be
the
the
representative
from
the
mayor's
office,
the
city
council
member
and
the
representative
from
the
commission
on
human
relations
and
the
the
reasons
for
proposing
this
are
are
two
one.
B
The
first
one
is
that
one
of
those
three
persons
has
expressed
that
he
didn't
believe
that
his
role
required
attendance
at
every
monthly
meeting
that
he
was
in
an
advisory
role,
which
is
you
know
perfectly
fine.
Our
bylaws
did
did
not
exist
when
the
city
council
member
was
appointed
to
the
commission,
but
that's
how
he
views
it
and
then
the
other.
So
it's
out
of
respect
also
for
these
positions.
B
City
official
positions
that
have
a
requirement
by
their
role,
but
but
and
didn't
you
know
do
this
is-
is
the
way
most
of
us
did
by
putting
our
name
in
and
then
accepting
an
appointment,
the
so
it's
being
respectful
of
that
point
of
view
of
at
least
one
of
the
three
that
seats
that
I
and
identifying
the
other.
B
B
It
will
affect
our
ability
to
reach
Quorum
each
month,
so
the
the
document
that
I
sent
to
you
just
modifies
the
definition
of
Quorum,
where
it's
a
simple
majority
of
the
members
except
the
commission
seats
of
the
representative
of
the
mayor's
office
member
of
City
Council
on
the
representative
of
the
commission,
on
human
relations
and
and
but
it
would
not
affect
in
any
way
their
voting
power,
their
authority
to
vote
when
they're
present
on
any
on
any
motion.
B
So
that's
the
idea
to
try
to
alleviate
the
with
those
three.
Those
three
would
be
from
the
total.
We
have
16
Commissioners
right
now,
so
that
only
13
would
be
counted
as
the
total
and
we
would
need
seven
to
reach
Quorum
tonight
we
needed
nine
and
we
only
have
one
of
those
three
persons
here.
A
I
mean
I
think,
that's
that's
a
reasonable
change
and
you
know
I
I
did
get
it
and
I'll
I'll
look
at
it
Billy
as
soon
as
we're
done.
B
A
F
I
was
going
to
ask:
is
it
motion
first
and
discussion
a
second
or
not,
but
let
me
ask
and
I
apologize
for
not
knowing,
so
is
that
Quorum
now
based
on
a
percentage
of
Commissioners
and
then
if
we
were
to
say
those
three
positions,
don't
aren't
used
in
the
Quorum
calculation?
F
B
Questions
yes,
so
right
now,
the
definition
of
Quorum
is
a
majority
of
the
commissioners.
So
it's
just.
We
got
to
get
more
than
50,
so
we
have
16
Commissioners
right
now,
and
so
we
have
to
get
a
majority,
which
means
we
have
to
get
more
than
eight.
So
we
have
to
have
nine.
So
when
there's
an
even
number,
it's
a
little
bit
well
just
slightly
harder
to
get
to
Quorum.
But
when
there's
an
odd
number,
it's
it's
slightly
easier.
But
what
so?
That's
the
first
part.
B
That's
the
first
definition,
that's
how
we
did
it
tonight
and
how
we've
done
it
since
we
instituted
this
in
August
of
21
the
the.
So
what
this
change
would
be
is
just
simply
that
those
three
wouldn't
count,
so
we
would
for
example,
tonight
we.
If
it
was
that
way,
we
would
have
counted
13
people
and
then
we
would
have
had
to
have
seven,
which
would
be
a
majority
of
those
that
13
in
order
to
have
Quorum
is
what
it
would.
But
I
didn't
make
a
motion
tonight.
B
So
we're
having
a
more
of
an
informal
discussion
on
this.
So
the
order
of
motion
and
discussion
is
of
course,
motion
first
discussion,
second,
but
this
is
sort
of
an
informal
just
explaining
what
I'm
presenting-
and
we
can
have
a
at
this-
the
formal
discussion
after
an
emotion
next
time,
if
there's
a
second
of
course,.
F
So
if
we
were
to
to
vote
on
this-
or
let
me
just
say-
I
am
going
to
note
conflict
of
interest
and
I
probably
would
recuse
myself
from
a
vote
and
I
think
that
it's
obviously
important
for
the
commission
to
be
able
to
meet
Quorum.
So
this
may
be
the
only
way.
I
am
maybe
a
little
bit
disappointed
in
the
idea
that
we
would
have
to
go
this
particular
route.
I
think
that
it's
not
as
though
we're
waving
an
attendance
requirement
for
these
three.
F
So
that's
not
what
we're
doing
it
feels
a
little
bit
like
it.
It
just
is
very
important
that
we
have
those
three
people
in
the
conversation
and
it
it
is
not
always
the
case
that
we
do
have
have
those
people
and
I
think
I,
don't
know,
I
think
it's
maybe
a
little
bit
disappointing,
but
obviously
I've
had
my
my
absences.
So
there's
only
so
much
I
can
I
can
say
about
it,
but
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
A
I,
don't
disagree
with
you.
Jim
I
mean
I,
think
for
the
for
the
representative
that
doesn't
feel
that
he's
anything,
but
an
advisor
I
think
that's
kind
of
on
the
side.
A
But
it
is
very
disappointing
that
you
know
we
set
this
up
to
have
different
representation
and-
and
we
can't
every
week
every
meeting,
it's
a
struggle
to
meet
quorum.
So.
A
A
So,
as
Billy
said,
he
sent
those
it
should
be
in
everybody's
email
and
we'll
take
a
look
at
those
and
then
vote
on
on
them
in
the
November
meeting.
A
Next
is
a
Treasures
report
and
I
know
Guillermo's
not
able
to
make
it
he's
getting
an
award,
but
there
there
is
a
line
item
in
the
mayor's
budget
for
a
part-time
employee
for
the
commission,
but
I
I
reviewed
that
document
a
few
times
and
I
think
that
was
the
only
reference
to
this
commission
that
there
was
unless
I
missed
something.
A
C
Well,
I
think
we
I
mean
the
mayor's
right
now
doing
a
listening
tour
on
the
budget.
So
it's
a
good
time
for
us
to
weigh
in
and
I
think
that
we
need
a
part-time
staff
person,
there's
a
line
item
for
an
intern
and
we
need
funding
for
operations
some
something
at
least
and
on
that
topic.
I
hope
that
we
have
some
say
in
the
hiring
of
the
staff
person
and
The
Intern.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
I've
I
forget
what
what
department
we
fell
under
but
I
think
it's
definitely
a
request.
We
can
make.
C
And
we
need
to
find
out
where
the
money
from
last
year
this
year
went
because
Bruce
told
us
that
it's
in
the
budget
that
there's
money
we're
not
really
sure
what
it's
for
I
don't
know
if
he
specified
that
much.
But
where
is
that
money?
And
can
we
spend
it
by
the
end
of
this
year?
I
mean?
Are
we
allowed
to,
because
Maria
seemed
pretty
firm,
that
there
is
no
funding
for
us.
C
Billy
was
it
right
that
Bruce
said
it?
Was
the
clerk
told
him
that
it
was
in
the
budget.
B
Yes,
Bruce
Bruce
Krause
reported
to
me
that
he
had
confirmed
that
there
were
were
funds
allocated
to
the
the
commission
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
A
F
The
so
the
lgbtqa
plus
commission
in
the
2022
budget
has
a
part-time
position
here.
It
hasn't.
Okay,
there's
an
interim
position.
That's
ten
thousand!
It's
in
the
office
of
equity,
I,
don't
know
about
the
2023
budget
proposal.
C
F
It
was
that
was
the
previous
position.
Title
was
executive
director
for
gender
Equity
commit
commission,
I,
don't
know
what
they
are
planning
to
have
the
title
be
under
the
new
structure,
where
it's
split
with
two
different
commissions.
C
B
A
So
maybe
whoever
Guillermo's
talking
to
at
the
city
he
can,
he
can
request,
see
if
there's
something
that
we
could
do
to
utilize,
that
unallocated
budget.
If
there
is
any.
C
A
C
And
if
we've
been
denied
it,
coupled
with
other
things
that
are
going
on,
that
is
part
of
a
pattern.
That
is
something
we
can
discuss
maybe
later
in
the
agenda,
but
we
may
not
be
able
to
use
the
money,
but
the
fact
that
it
wasn't
provided
to
us
is
a
very
serious
issue.
A
A
Next
on
the
agenda
is
the
Outreach
coordinators
report
I'll
I'll
send
out
another
invite
for
the
working
group
with
a
new
Zoom
link
and
Billy
I
did
see
some
of
your
comments.
Some
of
your
emails
come
back
today
that
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
so
for
me.
The
goal
is
to
have
this
report,
this
social
media
policy
back
to
everyone.
So
they
could
read
it
before
that
November
meeting
in
working
with
the
working
group
and
see
if
we
can
get
that
adopted.
A
I
know
that's
aggressive,
but
that's
my
goal.
C
So
we
have
a
working
group
I'm.
Sorry,
we
have
a
training
set
up
for
Wednesday.
We
have
seven
speakers
from
across
the
state
and
unfortunately
we
do
not
have
any
Communications
from
the
city
on
how
we
will
broadcast
that
event
and
or
we'll
preserve
it,
because
one
of
our
intents
was
to
have
it
available
for
people
to
watch
down
the
road.
C
If
they
were
considering
this
process,
it
was
meant
to
be
a
permanent
resource,
because
we
don't
have
that
communication
back
from
the
city
and
we've
you
know,
the
recommendation
is
that
we
postpone
this
Workshop
and
try
to
get
the
city
to
to
communicate
with
us
and
I
I.
Just
want
to
you
know,
go
on
the
record
here,
saying:
I
know
that
I
have
made
repeated
attempts.
I've
caught,
you
know,
emailed
reached
out.
C
I
know
that
others
here
have
done
the
same,
and
this
has
been
for
over
a
month.
We
were
told
that
it's
not
an
official
meeting.
So
it's
not
something
that
you
know
the
city
was
going
to
record
for
us
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
ask
if
we
recorded
ourselves
if
they
would
add
it
to
the
YouTube
channel.
That's
all
we
were
asking
and
we
couldn't
get
an
answer.
We
didn't
even
get
an
acknowledgment
that
we
were
asking
that
question,
which
is
incredibly
disappointing.
We've
been
discussing
this
since
April.
C
It's
been
in
every
agenda
every
set
of
meeting
minutes.
There
is
just
absolutely
no
excuse
to
say
that
people
are
not
aware
that
this
is
a
priority
and
given
what's
been
happening
locally
with
the
radio
ad
and
what's
happening
in
Beaver
County
and
all
these
things
it's
a
it's
very
sad
that
this
vital
resource
to
help
get
more
non-discrimination
policies
passed,
is
going
to
be
delayed
by
and
I'm
sure
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
it.
A
You
know,
I
I
also
have
tried
and
I
think
it
does
lend
itself
to
a
bigger
issue
that
we
can
discuss
later.
But
you
know
we
have
to
know
what
the
boundaries
are.
I
mean
as
I
told
you
guys.
You
know,
I
I
can
host
a
webinar
on
an
account.
I
have
an
account
with
webinar
availability.
A
So
you
know
if
if
they
can
host
it,
we
should
just
get
at
least
the
approval
to
have
them
upload.
It.
A
So
yeah
I
mean
unfortunately
I
think
we've
got
a
postpone
it
unless
anybody
sees
sees
it
differently.
C
Well,
I'd
like
to
just
clarify,
because
this
is
official
City
business
I
can't
just
put
it
on
my
blog.
We
can't
just
put
it
on
Facebook.
We
can't
see
our
YouTube
channel.
We
can't.
We
have
really
no
other
options
that,
especially
because
we
don't
have
policies
in
place
yet
about
those
things.
So
right
there
is
no
option,
except
for
the
city
to
host
it
on
the
YouTube
channel.
B
What
I
do
I
have
a
little
bit?
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
have
an
understanding
with
the
city,
whoever
that
might
be
I'm,
not
sure
it's
the
mayor's
office,
but
it
may
be
the
mayor's
office,
but
some
entity
to
understand
what
you
know
what
they
can
provide
for
us.
I
mean
it's
it's
somewhat
of
a
new
error,
error
era
for
the
city,
in
that
so
many
things
are
virtual,
since
the
the
covid-19
pandemic
that
so
many
things
are
hosted
that
way.
B
I
think
that
there's
going
to
have
to
be
an
understanding
of
what
the
city's
capacity
and
charges
and
as
as
well
as
ours
and
I,
don't
think
that
that
has
been
worked
out
yet
and
I
do
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
we've
talked
about
it
since
April.
But
we
didn't
notify
the
city
in
April
that
we
were
going
to
have
an
October
26th
event.
B
It's,
and
so
they
didn't
have
notification
for
that
at
that
length
of
time.
So
I
think
that
there's
you
know.
I
am
disappointed
too,
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
work
this
out,
but
I
think
that
there
is
some
work
that
we
need
to
do
in
terms
of
having
a
common
understanding
in
what
the
city
can
provide
and
what
what
you
know
that
matches.
Hopefully
what
we
intend
to
to
do,
but
I
do
agree
that
this
particular
event
seems
to
be
in
the
realm
of
things
that
they
could
host.
F
F
You
know
one
thing
I
would
I
will.
Always
you
know
offer
is
that
whatever
the
the
commission
on
human
relations
can
can
offer,
we
would
love
to
to
be
a
help.
You
know
we
we
do
have
our
own
YouTube
channel,
we
do
have,
we
do
do
recordings,
but
I
think
one
thing
that
that
we
can't
you
know
give
is
the
same
as
the
city's
endorsement
and
being
included
in
the
same.
You
know
in
the
same
channel
as
the
rest
of
the
city.
So,
while
you
know
I
would
be
happy
to
to
host
anything.
F
You
know
to
the
commission
on
human
relations,
it's
not
exactly
the
same
as
having
the
city
put
it
on
their
YouTube
channel
and
the
lgbtqia
plus
commission
being
on
the
same
level
with
the
rest
of
the
the
city
departments
that
are
within
the
administration,
so
always
open
to
to
being
a
help,
as
the
commission
on
human
relations,
but
I
recognize
the
importance
of
us
being
recognized
in
the
in
that
way.
C
C
You
know
this
is
a
delicate
issue,
because
it's
another
commissioner,
but
the
reality
is
that's
part
of
the
responsibility
because
the
because
we
don't
have
staff
liaison.
So
unfortunately,
the
commissioner
has
double
duty
and
but
frankly,
historically
I've,
you
know
I've
blogged
through
six
different
administrations
and
their
Communications
have
always
been
problematic.
That
there's
just
no
response-
and
you
don't
know
if
that's
simply
because
they
don't
have
an
answer
or
they
don't
want
to
answer,
or
they
just
lost
the
message
and
it's
it's
an
ongoing
challenge
for
them.
C
F
I
agree
with
you
Sue
and
by
the
way,
if
I've
ever
not
responded,
I
apologize
for
that
as
well.
I
know,
I
can
be
not
so
responsible
for
email,
but
I
do
want
to
be.
You
know,
do
what
I
can
for
the
commission.
So
if
ever,
if.
C
I'm
not
aware
that
you
have
and
I
agree
with
you
that
we
have
to
be
careful
about
precedent
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
our
things
hosted
in
a
the
official
way,
and
if
that
means
that
we
have
to
delay
them,
then,
unfortunately,
well
have
to
live
with
the
consequences
of
that.
A
So
on
to
unfinished
business,
the
plumbing
code
issue
is
this
something
that
we
think
needs
to
stay
on
the
agenda.
B
Well,
I
think
that
our
that
our
feeling
was
that
you
know
we
didn't
we
could
we
could
remove
it
from
the
agenda,
but
I
don't
think
that
there
was
an
interest
in
removing
our
attention
to
the
issue
of
the
the
details
of
and
understandings
of
the
the
plumbing
code
and
how
things
affect
whether
you
know
in
the
near
future.
There
are
there's
a
move
towards
all
gender
restrooms.
B
You
know
either
as
a
requirement
for
new
businesses
or
you
know
whatever
the
requirements
might
be,
but
I
think
that
we
didn't
want
to
remove
it
from
the
the
agenda
as
that,
we're
removing
our
attention
from
the
issue-
and
there
also
was
the
the
issue
of,
although
I,
think
this
one
is
kind
of
now
dated
the
the
treatment
that
one
person
at
least
one
person
received
at
a
at
a
public
meeting.
B
Although
we're
not
you
know
pursuing
that,
but
but
I
think
that
we
can
I
think
in
the
executive
committee,
we
can
remove
it
from
from
the
agenda
and
not
have
it
on
there.
But
we
at
this
last
executive
committee
meeting
decided
to
leave
it
on
the
agenda,
but
I
don't
know
that
there
are
any
updates
to
report.
B
Well,
that's
sort:
this
is
the
standard
format
for
an
agenda
under
Robert's
rules
that
and
other
commissions
and
and
organizations
use.
So
if
you,
if
you
bring
something
to
the
table
and
then
you
don't
complete
it,
it
remains
on.
It
remains
on
the
on
the
agenda
until
it's
disposed
of.
So
your
idea
of
removing
it
from
the
agenda
that
that
could
that
might
be
better
than
then
re,
defining
our
agenda
items,
but
I
think
that
we
can.
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
B
That's
why
the
subcommittee
I'm,
remembering
now
from
our
executive
committee.
That
is
why
we
have
subcommittee
in
the
parentheses
that
that
our
our
view
was
that
this
should
this
should
go
to
a
subcommittee
and
would
not
be
on
a
regular
meeting
agenda
until
subcommittee
had
an
opportunity
to
do
some
work
on
this.
C
I
was
going
to
work
on
the
History
Month
statement.
Unfortunately,
the
radio
piece
has
consumed
all
of
my
time,
so
I
have
not
been
able
to
do
that
and
I
haven't
had
time
to
pull
all
the
days
of
visibility
and
awareness
to
add
to
a
calendar.
I
think
we
talked
about
you
Denise,
setting
that
up.
Okay,.
A
C
C
A
C
Yes,
a
week
ago,
eight,
the
eight
biggest
radio
stations
in
Pittsburgh.
C
An
ad
by
they
accepted
advertising
from
the
American
Legal
Foundation,
which
is
created
by
Stephen
Miller.
It's
a
right-wing
extremist
political
action
group
and
it's
a
30
second
ad
that
is
horrific
in
terms
of
terrorizing
and
demonizing
transgender
children
and
I
have
I
sent
a
copy
in
one
of
the
email.
As
long
with
the
transcript
it's
hateful
and
I
did
not
want
to
share
that,
but
I
think
was
important
for
people
to
have
a
chance
to
listen
to
that.
So
A
group
of
people
have
been
working
on
this.
C
The
Pittsburgh
Pride
group
has
banned
all
of
those
radio
stations
from
participating
in
2023
Pride
events
completely.
They
can't
come,
they
can't
cover
it.
They
can't
have
a
booth,
they
can't
do
anything
and
we
began
working
on
trying
to
get
the
ads
pulled
and
it's
it's.
It's
been
like
pulling
teeth.
We
96.1
KISS
was
the
first
station
to
pull
the
ad
because
there
are
four
major
on-air
talents
refused
to
do
their
shows
unless
they
pull
the
ad
so
kudos
to
that
for
putting
their
jobs
on
the
line.
C
Literally
for
Trans
kids,
Q92
pulled
the
ad
yesterday
really
technically
today
and
I'm.
Not
sure
what
the
motivation
was
and
this
afternoon
whamo
pulled
their
ad
after
the
Pittsburgh
Public
Schools
negotiated
that
with
that-
and
you
know,
Billy
and
Lenny
were
both
very
involved
in
that,
so
that
leaves
five
stations,
that's
WDVE,
105.9,
The,
X,
y108,
99.7,
wish
and
KDKA.
C
C
We
don't
know
if
it's
been
on
other
stations
because
we're
relying
on
people
hearing
it
to
tell
us
and
it's
you
know
it
needs
to
come
down.
We
need
to
talk
about
long-term
harm
and
Trauma
that
was
caused
by
this
decision.
All
of
these
stations
heard
that
ad
and
they
decided
to
run
it
and
that's
a
real
problem.
I'm
grateful
they're
pulling
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
give
them
an
you
know.
C
That's
that's
not
cover
to
hide
from
the
fact
that
there
are
kids
parents
reaching
out
to
me
telling
me
you
know
their
kids
are
in
the
car
they're
driving
the
ad
comes
on.
They
can't
reach
the
dial
and
it's
it's
just
absolutely
heinous,
so
we
have
five
radio
stations
to
go
and
we
need
everyone
who
knows
anyone
to
pull
all
the
at
all
stops
to
get
those
ads
off.
The
air
KDKA
is
trying
to
hide
behind
the
FCC
fairness
Doctrine,
which
doesn't
even
really
exist
anymore.
That
Doctrine
now
applies
only
to
Federal
campaign
ads.
C
This
is
not
a
campaign
ad.
This
is
a
hate
ad,
but
or
you
know
technically,
it
would
be
considered
an
issue
ad.
So
there's
no
FCC
doctrine.
That
says
you
have
to
say
true
things
or
that
you
know
give
Fair
time,
but
this
ad
is
hurting
our
community.
It's
certainly
hurting
trans
folks,
but
it's
also
indoctrinating
a
lot
of
people
with
just
vile
information.
C
So
we
have
on
my
blog
I,
have
a
list
of
phone
numbers
for
all
the
stations
calling
is
important
if
I
would
ask
that
each
commissioner,
please
do
that,
because
it's
an
important
step,
and
if
you
know
somebody
that
knows
somebody
at
these
stations
we're
reaching
out
to
the
Pirates
reaching
out
to
the
penguins
trying
to
you
know,
get
all
the
Allies
we
can
to
to
take
some
action,
but
it's
exhausting
and
I'm
really
stunned
that
after
96.1
pulled
it
that
the
others
didn't
follow
suit.
A
F
I'm
I,
don't
know
anyone
personally,
all
the
Press
people
that
I
know
I
know
from
working
as
the
commission.
One
thing
that
I
can
do
is
reach
out
to
when
I
see
the
commission
I
met.
Chr
one
thing
I
can
do
is
reach
out
to
my
Commissioners
as
my
supervisors
to
find
out
if
they
would,
if
they
would
object
to
me,
reaching
out
to
the
people
who
I
know
as
as
executive
director
of
the
commission
to
pull
the
ad.
You
know
I'll
do
that
tonight.
F
I
also
approached
them
about
CHR,
making
a
statement
which
they're
in
support
of
so
we're
going
to
make
a
statement,
but
our
statement
probably
won't
be
as
as
powerful
as
another
statement.
It
will
essentially
condemn
hate
and
and
discrimination,
but
not
specifically
mentioned
the
the
stations
playing
the
ad.
F
The
only
other
thing
that
I
have
to
say
is
you
know,
thank
you
sue
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
it,
and
you
know,
as
somebody
who
has
placed
the
radio
ad
before
I
know
the
process
and
I
know
they
all
heard
it
before
they
put
it
on
the
air,
which
I
think
is
like
the
most
shocking
thing
to
me.
Is
you
listen
to
it
and
you
said
like
okay,
that's
fine
and
put
it
on
the
air.
C
Okay,
Shantae:
it's
in
there's
a
email
thread
that
says
radio
ads
in
the
subject
line
and
it's
a
YouTube
link
that
it's
embedded
that
has
the
ad
in
it.
F
Okay,
you
may
or
may
not
want
to
want
to
hear
it
even
I
mean
the
way
that
I
found
out
about
it,
because
I
don't
watch
the
news
very
much
is
I
was
actually
I
had
to
get
an
Uber
to
go
home
and
it
came
on
the
radio
when
I
was
in
and
the
Hoover
and
I
did
not
even
know
what
to
do.
I
was
like
what
is
the
station,
and
then
it
started
playing
normal
music
and
I
was
like
what
really
is
the
spaceship.
H
It's
just
even
more
shocking
and
it
just
really
took
me
aback
just
considering
that
you
know
the
week
before
we
just
really
finished
up
the
trans
health
and
pride
conference
as
well
really
doing
a
lot
of
great
stuff
in
the
community,
and
here
we
go
and
I'm
certainly
sure
that
it's
definitely
connected
to
the
election.
But
again
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
what
could
be
done
to
be
able
to
prevent
future
occurrences
from
happening,
or
you
know
what
legal
things
may
be
associated
with
that.
H
But
again
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
be
able
to
hold
those
radio
stations
accountable
for
that
or
what
we
could
potentially
do.
But
again
it
shouldn't
should
shouldn't
have
occurred
and
it's
just
it's
horrific.
It's
horrifying.
It's
really
sad,
pretty
sad.
B
Well,
I
think
we
should
issue
a
statement
and
we
should
do
it
soon,
like
within
24
hours
and
so
I.
Think
that
you
know
I
mean
I'm
well,
I
I
penned
one
for
the
Pittsburgh
Federation
of
teachers
and
it
got
a
lot
of
response
from
media
when
it
was
sent
out
and.
B
It
and-
and
we
learned
not-
that
it's
the
only
effort-
it
wasn't
the
only
effort,
of
course
regarding
whamo,
but
we
we
learned
shortly
after
you
know
it
went
out
around
10
a.m,
and
then
it
was
midday
a
little
later
than
midday,
that
we
were
informed
that
waymo
had
dropped
it,
but
it
included
that
we
identified
the
the
radio
stations
that
we
believed
were
confirmed
and
I
think
the
Commit
This
commission
should
identify
the
ones
as
long
as
we're
accurate.
B
We've
got
to
be
accurate
on
when
we
put
a
business's
identifier
into
a
statement
and
and
release
it.
We
we
definitely
have
to
be
accurate,
so
we
do
personally
know
some
stations
that
we've
heard
it
on,
but
I
think
we
should
list
them
and-
and
we
and
we
know
the
some
of
the
ones
that
have
dropped
it,
that
we're
playing
it
and
dropped
it
like
whamo,
which
is
yeah.
B
We
don't
want
to
like
applaud
them,
as
Sue
said
earlier
too
loudly,
because
they
shouldn't
have
done
it
in
the
first
place,
but
it
still
is
a
good
thing
that
they
have
dropped
it.
The,
but
I,
think
we
should.
We
should
do
that
and
you
know
how
we
do
that
I
can
start
it
and
anytime.
We
want,
to
you,
know,
figure
out
how
to
issue
the
statement
or
empower
the
co-chairs,
the
spokespersons
to
to
send
it
out
whatever
we
do.
B
I
think
we
should
and
and
within
24
hours-
and
this
isn't
just
about
the
election.
They'll
say
I
mean
it's
not
yeah.
It's
probably
you
know
yeah
there's
an
election
coming
up,
but
this
is
about
a
fascist
movement
that
is
in
our
country
and
around
the
world
and
they're
using
queer
people
in
particular
transgender
people,
non-binary
people,
people
they're
using
them
as
pawns,
and
it's
it's
it's
horrific
and
terrifying,
and
we
have
to
stand
up
to
it
loudly.
It's
not
just
whether
mastriano
gets
elected
or
not.
That's
not
what
it
is.
C
We
also
need
to
decide
what
we're
going
to
do,
because
we
can
put
a
statement
together
and
I
I
think
absolutely.
We
should
I
think
that
we
can
confirm
the
radio
stations,
because
the
city
paper
ran
an
article
listing
this
those
stations
and
none
of
them
said
no,
no,
we're
not.
We
don't
have
the
ad
up.
So
there's
that
tacit
confirmation
there.
But
what
are
we
going
to
do
if
they
don't
pull
the
ads?
Are
we
going
to
take
action?
C
Are
we
going
well,
do
they
care
I,
don't
think
they
care
or
what
we
think
or
they
wouldn't
have
run
the
ads.
So
what
what
do
we
do?
What
to
follow
up
a
statement?
Do
we
go
to
the
radio
stations
Maya
folks
are
thinking
they
want
to
go
with
our
protect
trans
youth
signs
and
put
them
up,
and
you
know,
call
the
media
and
just
go
from
Station
to
Station
doing
that
but
I'd
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
work.
B
Well,
you
know
we
so
we're
a
city
Commission,
we're
a
city,
commission
and
I.
Think
that
we
can.
You
know
we
can
lead
with
our
with
our
words.
We
can
participate
in
actions
that
might
evolve,
but
we're
not
a
direct
action
group.
You
know
we're
we're
not
that
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
think
about
what
we
might
do
as
individuals
and
what
we
might
be
comfortable
with
as
a
group.
If
we're
going
to
do
direct
action
protests,
but
we
have
a
platform,
this
is
being
live
streamed.
B
This
is
going
to
be
recorded
and
I
think
if
this
commission
issues
a
strong
statement
to
the
media
on
this
issue.
This
issue
is
getting
a
lot
of
coverage
and
it's
it's
about
exposing
the
media,
it's
going
to
the
media
and
it's
exposing
the
media
as
complicit
participation
in
hate
and
fascist
movement.
That's
what
they're
doing
and
then
they
do
need
to
be
identified
and
yeah.
Maybe
we
do
need
to
go
to
their
station,
but
right
now,
I
think
we
have
to
lead
with
the
state.
We
will
get
it.
B
We
will
get
calls
on
it,
we'll
get
calls
on
it
and
and
then
and
our
spokespersons
our
our
co-chairs
should
respond
and
be
ready
to
make
statements.
If
the
media
responds
to
it
and
if
they
don't,
then
I
think
we
have
an
issue
with
the
the
ones
who
don't
respond,
but
I
think
we
will
get
a
response,
but
yeah
I'm
willing
to
you
know
as
to
help
with
protest
a
protest
movement
on
this
too,
but
I
don't
know
that
that's
the
the
Commissioners
charge
the
commission's
charge,
necessarily
it
may
maybe
it
is.
C
There
are
Partnerships
and
I
think
those
should
be
terminated
if
these
ads
aren't
pulled
and
I
think
we
should
specifically
ask
department
heads
not
to
go
on
these
stations
and
do
interviews
mayor
Gainey
for
sure,
but
all
of
them-
and
you
know
a
city-wide
response
to
the
decisions
that
they've
made
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
something
we
should.
That
would
require
a
motion
for
us
to
recommend
that
or.
C
Is
that
I
can
propose
a
motion
saying
that
we
recommend
that
the
city
not
participate
in
any
kind
of
public
relationship
with
these
radio
stations.
C
That
would
be
including
interviews,
promotional
sponsorship
interactions.
C
B
B
C
I
mean
look,
it's
not
going
to
be
too
long
to
the
police
are
going
in
to
talk
about
Toys
for
Tots,
we've
got
the
KDKA
turkey
fund,
people
go
to
I
mean
these
are
things
that
exist
and
they're
important
and
they
should
happen,
but
hopefully
they
can
be
used
as
pressure
points
to
get
these
ads
pulled.
F
F
F
F
Has
has
anyone
heard
of
councilman
strasberger
saying
anything
on
on
this.
C
B
All
right,
so
we
have
a.
We
have
a
motion
that
has
been
seconded,
that
the
that
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
including
the
mayor's
office,
the
city
council
and
all
department
heads,
not
participate
in
any
relationship
with
any
radio
station.
That's
running
the
ads,
including
the
five
that
we
know
are
and
that
that
relationship
includes
interviews,
promotional
relationships
and
sponsorships
there's
been
a
second.
B
B
Yes,
we
do
we're
we're
above
Quorum
yeah,
Kathy
Boyle
has
joined
us
and-
and
we
also
have
there's
three
city
folks
here
so
we're
at
at
10-
and
this
point.
B
D
D
A
As
far
as
new
business
I
think
we
had
talked
about-
and
you
know,
we've
got
10
minutes
left,
but
the
situation
with
communication.
A
A
Would
you
like
to
bring
up
any
examples
of
the
lack
of
communication?
Well.
C
I
think
we
have
discussed
them.
So,
let's
just
reiterate,
we
have
the
lack
of
response
on
the
works,
the
workshop.
We
have
the
inadequate
information
on
the
budget
for
2022
and
whether
we
should
have
had
a
staff
person.
By
now
we
have,
we
don't
have
any
information
on
2023's
budget.
We
we
found
it
ourselves,
but
no,
we
were
not
informed
or
we
don't
know
if
there's
any
operational
funds,
we've
had
the
very
odd
back
and
forth
about
the
meeting
with
the
mayor
and
that
was
kind
of
a
disjointed
process
that
it
just
overall.
C
It
seems
that
there's
just
a
pattern
of
not
really
taking
us
seriously,
perhaps
as
they
would
other
commissions
and
treating
us
with
respect
that
we
deserve.
A
So
on
to
announcements,
PA
local
legislative
policy
update
on
anti-lgbtqia
actions.
I
Sure
the
so
South
Side
Beaver,
apparently
like
all
districts,
have
has
some
number
of
trans
students
or
non-binary
students
I'm,
not
sure
they
weren't,
they
didn't
give
any
specific
data,
but
but
they
have
had
issues
with
kids
and
bathrooms,
and
locker
rooms
facilities
like
that
pronouns
names,
so
they
look
to
their
their
solicitor
to
for
some
guidance,
given
current
case
law
and
they
were
told
to
the
other,
while
their
Superintendent
at
the
meeting
I
attended
was
was
very
insistent
that
they
have
no
formal
policy
I'm
going
to
use
the
term
policy
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
but
they
were,
they
were
told
to
to
use.
I
Preferred
names,
preferred
pronouns
that
they
had
to
provide
facilities
Etc.
So
that's
what
the
school
district
started
to
do.
I
Apparently,
one
of
the
teachers
objected
to
that
refused
to
call
a
student
or
multiple
students,
I'm,
not
sure,
in
accordance
with
their
preferred
names
and
pronouns
was
disciplined
for
it
and
from
what
I
understand
at
the
meeting
prior
to
the
one
I
attended
the
parents,
it
sounded
like
a
mob
environment
from
the
from
from
the
tone
of
the
conversation
at
at
this
meeting.
It
sounded
like
the
one
before
it
was
was
pretty
crazy,
so
that
meeting
was
closed.
The
teacher
after
the
the
parent
upward
was
reinstated.
I
This
was
a
follow-up
meeting
to
that
one
I
went
out
and
attended
it
and
I
mean
there
was
plenty
of
the
sort
of
run-of-the-mill
rural
conservative
nonsense
that
you
would
expect.
But
no
there
were
no
organized
protests.
There
were
yeah,
there
was
no
shouting
and
arguing,
and
you
know
it
sounds
like
the
real
fireworks
happened
at
the
previous
meeting.
I
That
I
was
that
I
was
not
attendance
with,
but
long
story
short
they're
still
they're
working
on
according
to
their
superintendent
they're
working
on
developing
a
trans
policy
that
will
respect
what
he
continually
referred
to
as
the
values
of
the
community,
while
but
also
recognizing
their
responsibility
to
protect
kids.
I
The
name
of
the
organization
that
they're
working
with
I
believe
is
the
Pennsylvania
Family,
Foundation
or
I.
Have
it
written
down
in
my
notes,
which,
if
you
when
I,
went
and
looked
or
maybe
was
the
Family
Institute
when
I
went
and
looked
up
its
Christian
organization?
That
is,
is
not
likely
to
be
very
helpful
in
this
regard.
But
this
is
what
this
community
seems
to
want
and
that's
the
way
it's
it's
going,
but
yeah
it
was
was
eye-opening.
B
C
We've
also
been
able
to
get
the
Beaver
County,
Times
and
WTAE
to
cover
that
story
and
to
protect
trans
youth
program
is
working
with
Central
Outreach
to
get
signs
and
stickers
and
all
that
into
Beaver
County.
A
When
we,
when
we
get
the
calendar,
you
know,
maybe
we
can
add
some
of
these
meetings
and
other
people
could
go
with
you
Lenny
and
attend.
I
Yeah
given
meeting
I
mean
I've
got
rid
of
this
one
just
because
received
an
email
from
from
soon,
as
several
of
us
did
about
about
a
concern
about
the
previous
meeting
and
I
just
took
it
upon
myself
to
go,
but
yeah
I
mean
it
would
have
been
great
to
have
more
people
with
me
and
have
a
more
organized
reason
for
being
there,
but
it
just
I,
don't
know
it
just
felt
like
I
should
go
so
I
did.
A
A
C
I
would
like
to
add
something
the
the
co-chairs
sent
out
around
an
email
today
about
attendance
and
I
realized
I
forgot
to
sign
one
or
two
of
them,
so
I
apologize
for
that.
That
was
a
cut
and
paste
error,
but
we
wanted
to
individually
send
it,
but
it
was
the
universal
language.
C
So
please
check
your
email
and
confirm
with
us
by
Monday
if
we
got
it
right,
what
what
meetings
you
attended
and
if
you
notified
us
that
you
had
to
miss
another
meeting
and
we'll
follow
up
with
individuals
who
are
have
exceeded
the
three
meaning
threshold.
But
please
we
really
need
to
hear
from
everybody.
So
just
reply
and
let
us
know
that
you
received
it.
B
A
Well,
with
that,
we
are
one
minute
over
and
the
meeting
is
adjourned.