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A
B
Okay,
and
since
since
screen
is
shared,
I
can't
see
everybody
necessarily
the
the
so
I
do.
I
have
not
seen
Kathy
Boyle.
She
informed
me
that
she's
not
going
to
be
here
so
she's
notified
Nakia
is
not
here.
Denise
is
here,
I
have
not
seen
Jim
if
Jam
Hammond
is
here.
B
Lenny
is
here,
Richard
is
here,
Shantae
I
have
not
seen
Shantae
Christopher
is
here,
Marcus
is
here,
I
have
not
seen
Sarah
I
have
not
seen
Derek
and
Guillermo
has
already
informed
me
that
he
will
be
late,
so
he's
not
here
yet.
So
we
have
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six
seven
we
have
seven,
we
need
seven
for
Quorum.
We
have
seven
commissioners
of
those
who
count
from
so
we
have
Quorum
and
we
can
proceed.
C
B
Okay,
well,
if
I
can
do
that,
but
I
would
have
to
put
my
attention
to
that.
If
someone
else
can.
A
I
can
probably
do
it
while
we
move
to
the
next
one,
so
Justin
makes
sense,
probably
do
reading
and
approval
of
Menace
before
moving
to
the
election.
B
Yes,
let's
do
that
and
then
move
to
the
election
because
we
might
lose
Quorum,
that's
six,
so
the
so
the
Commissioners
have
them
the
the
minutes
from
the
November
17th
meeting
I
make
a
motion
to
adopt
the
the
minutes.
If
there's
a
second
people
can
offer
any
corrections.
D
B
Stuck
who
said
that
so
I
can
record
that
Richard?
No
thank
you
Richard
all
right,
so
the
second
and
and
are
there
any
corrections.
B
Right
then
I'll
step
back
Marcus.
You
can
ask
for
a
vote
on
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
B
A
A
No
extensions
believe
that
passes
so
then
moving
to
the
reports
for
now,
while
we
have
Quorum
sue
if
I'm
following
right,
Billy
so
I
guess
first
we'll
take
nominations
and
then,
if
there's
any,
if
there's
any
non-competitive
ones,
then
we
can
do
a
if
people
are
okay
with
that,
do
a
motion
to
pass
or
accept
those
nominations.
Yes,.
F
All
right
thanks
everyone,
so
we
are
re-electing
or
electing
our
officers
for
2023
in
tonight's
meeting.
We'll
start
with
the
chairs.
Are
there
nominations
for
chairs.
B
Well,
I
will
nominate
the
three
incumbent
chairs
Sue
Kerr,
Sarah,
Rosso
and
Marcus
Robinson.
B
F
You
Billy
any
others.
F
F
Yeah
we
we
understand
she's
juggling
a
few
things
at
once.
Billy
are
we
able
to
move
forward
on
on
Sarah's
behalf?
Well,.
B
I
I
don't
know,
I
think
that
if
somebody
has
a
a
phone
number
and
can
get
her
attention,
that
would
be
helpful.
F
All
right
so
tabling
that
one
for
now,
let's
move
on
to
the
position
of
secretary
and
we'll
come
back
to
chairs.
If
that's
okay,
I'll
nominate
Billy
heilman
to
return
as
secretary
any
other
nominations.
F
Okay,
don't
hear
any
Billy,
do
you
accept?
Yes,
thank
you
all
right.
In
the
absence
of
a
challenging
candidate,
I
moved
that
we
elect
Billy
Hallman
to
serve
as
Secretary
of
the
commission.
No
second.
F
F
F
Can
we
do
Treasurer?
Are
there
any
nominations
for
treasurer.
F
F
All
right
Denise:
do
you
accept
the
nomination?
Yes,
all
right
make
a
motion
that
we
unanimously
in
the
absence
of
another
candidate,
elect
Denise.
F
G
G
G
We
had
talked
about
this
ahead
of
time
and
and
that
the
duties
would
be
distributed
among
the
other
members
of
the
executive
committee
and
any
volunteers
from
the
commissioner,
okay
and
then
we
would
continue
to
see
if
someone
wanted
to
fill
that
role.
So
the
work
won't
go
unaddressed
honestly.
F
Understood
all
right,
so
one
last
call
for
nominees
for
outrage.
Coordinator,
all
right
hearing,
none
I,
move
that
we
table
the
election
of
that
position
until
a
later
date.
Do
I
have
a
second.
H
E
F
B
F
A
F
I'm
here
y'all,
oh
there
you
go
Sarah,
you
were
nominated
for
to
return
as
one
of
the
chairs.
Do
you
accept
that
nomination.
F
I
F
F
Thank
you.
Congratulations!
Thank
you
for
being
willing
to
continue
to
serve
as
our
chairs
Billy
do
I
need
to
make
a
motion
to
close
elections.
Nope,
okay!
Well!
That's
it
then.
A
G
It's
me:
I
haven't
been
successful
in
setting
up
a
time
it
really.
It
seems
to
be
the
real
down
time
for
them
after
the
season
and
before
they
start
their
league,
so
I'm
guessing
they're
on
just
not
paying
attention
to
non-essential
issues
at
this
point,
since
they
were
responsive
to
the
radio
ads.
I
don't
feel
like
this
is
a
sign
of
anything
significant
beyond
that.
But
I'll
continue
to
try
to
get
the
meeting
scheduled.
C
G
The
Pirates
requested
that
we
meet
with
them
on
a
regular
basis
to
proactively
address
concerns,
issues,
topics
this
Rose
in
response
to
the
concert
they
sponsored
two
years
ago
with
a
very
extremist,
certainly
anti-lgbt,
anti-vaxxer
anti-immigrant,
anti-black
lives
matter
concert.
G
We
were
able
to
secure
a
meeting
with
them
and
we
talked
about
it
learned
what
they
were
doing
to
prevent
that
from
happening
in
the
future,
and
one
thing
that
came
up
in
that
meeting
is
that
they
would
like
ongoing
contact
with
us
to
talk
about
issues
and
help
them
Implement
policies
to
avoid
this
kind
of
thing
make
sure
that
their
training
is
meeting
the
needs
of
the
community.
Those
types
of
issues
we
haven't
met
since
then,
but
it
was
their
request.
Okay,.
A
G
Yes,
we'd
send
an
email
to
acting
Chief
Stan
grecky.
We
did
not
receive
response
sent
a
follow-up.
Email
did
not
receive
a
response,
so
I
really
don't
know
if
he's
received
them
hasn't
seen
them
or,
if
he's
choosing,
not
to
respond.
I
I
can't
speak
to
that,
but
we
are
facing
more
situations
where
this
seems
to
be
a
very
important
role.
That
needs
to
be
well,
it's
a
role
to
be
filled.
It
does
exist.
It's
not
a
new
role
today.
G
I
learned
that
a
candidate
for
office
in
the
city
was
attacked
by
a
right-wing
extremist
trolling
group
around
a
drag
event
that
they
had
deemed
family
friendly
and
they
ended
up
having
to
relocate
it
hire
security
and
take
other
steps
to
protect
our
community.
At
this
event,
the
candidate
is
not
part
of
our
community
they're,
an
ally,
and
so
I
asked
them.
You
know
they
ended
up
going
to
the
police
because
they
went
through
Dan
Gilman
and
then
were
referred
to
the
police
to
get
advice
on
how
to
handle
this.
G
C
Recommendation
would
be
to
actually
like
reach
out
to
the
public
safety
director
who
the
chief
of
police
reports
to
like
they're
the
person
who
would
be
responsible
for
designating
that
individual
to
begin
with,
I'm,
not
sure
if,
if
Chief
Stang
grecky
would
would
acting
Chief
would
play
a
role
in
that.
C
So
that
would
that
would
be
my
request
and
there
is
somebody
in
the
public
safety
department
who
sort
of
designated
as
like
a
community
outreach,
engagement
liaison
who,
quite
frankly,
might
be
a
bit
more
appropriate
non-police
person
who
is
has
oversight
of
police
work
and
that's
the
assistant
director
of
Public
Safety.
G
We've
discussed
that
having
someone
in
the
public
safety
department
is
fine,
a
civilian
and
could
be
certainly
very
useful
in
a
lot
of
roles,
but
having
an
actual
law
enforcement
officer
is
really
important,
because
there
are
certain
databases
that
no
civilian
in
the
city
can
access,
not
even
not
the
mayor,
no
one
and
so
having
Commander
Holmes
in
that
role
was
useful
in
the
past,
and
you
know
we'd
like
to
see
that
repeated
having
two
Liaisons
would
be
twice
as
good,
I
suppose,
especially
because
that
would
also
include
the
other
departments,
the
fire
department
and
the
EMTs
and
other
First
Responders.
G
So
what.
C
E
C
Lot
of
people
within
the
community
might
feel
more
comfortable
speaking
with
a
non-officer
position
in
terms
of
having
concerns
or
questions
around
this
work,
I.
G
Don't
disagree
with
that.
I
think
that
that's
something
we
should
advocate
for
within
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
but,
for
example,
with
the
O'donnell
caller
family,
had
a
police
officer
been
involved
to
see
the
reporting
that
was
being
made
that
the
reports
that
were
filed
internally
about
the
harassment
of
a
15
year
old
girl,
who's,
part
of
our
community,
a
police
officer,
could
have
responded
to
that
could
have
flagged.
It
could
have
been
a
resource
to
the
responding
officers
who
behaved
appropriately.
G
They
didn't
do
anything
that
wasn't
that
wasn't
required
of
them,
but
it
it's
a
situation
where
you
know
someone
in
the
force
could
have
had
a
red
flag
around
that
and
reacted
months
ahead
of
time.
Perhaps
before
the
sign
was
up,
when
the
it
was
just
regular
harassment
and
then
also
at
no
point
did
anyone
in
the
police
department
connect
this
individual,
this
family
with
any
resources
in
the
community.
It
was
only
when
the
father
started
posting
publicly
that
we
we
got
involved
and
then
other
groups.
G
So
you
know
the
I
I,
don't
know
that
what
the
reports
are
called,
but
I
do
know
that
they.
You
know
from
my
wife's
work,
that
there
are
things
that,
even
as
a
supervisor
there,
she
can't
see
she
can't
look
at.
She
can't
pull
up.
She
can't
access,
but
she
needs
them
for
her
work.
So
somebody
else
has
to
do
that
for
her,
and
so
you
know,
I
just
seems
to
me
that
having
a
police
officer
even
as
a
supplemental
role
to
a
public
safety
officer,
I
wouldn't
require
anyone
to
go
talk
to
them.
C
C
If,
if
we
just
look
to
fill
it
in
solely
the
police
department,
then
I
think
it
misses
the
broader
scope
of
what
Public
Safety
is
for
the
city
and
and
how
all
those
sort
of
relate
to
each
other
in
regards
to
our
community
and
if
folks
need
security
and
support.
For
that,
like
the
public
safety
director
would
be
the
best
person
to
reach
out
to
for
those
things
right.
So
I
I
just
think
that
there's
a
variety
of
places
to
to
engage
broader
Beyond,
just
a
liaison
in
the
police
department.
G
I,
don't
disagree
with
you,
but
the
point
I'm
bringing
up
here
is
that
we've
reached
out
to
the
chief
of
police,
representing
the
city
commission
and
haven't
even
had
a
response.
So
that's
a
concern
and
it
reflects
perhaps
that
the
Public
Safety
attitude
towards
lgbtq
issues
isn't
perhaps
isn't
where
it
should
be,
because
they
could
have
at
least
acknowledged
that
we
made
the
inquiry
just
a
quick
email
from
a
an
assistant
or
someone,
you
know
would
have
done
the
trick
so
I,
don't
at
all
suggest.
G
A
B
Yeah
the
so
we've
discussed
this
before
a
few
times.
I
think
we're
interested
in
both
roles,
and
we
want
them
to
be
active
roles
and
I.
Think
that
you
should
I
I
was
going
to
say
before
Maria
said,
I
really
appreciate
her
comment
to
go
to
the
supervisor
of
Mr
Officer
Chief
Stan
grecky
and
say
that
we
need
that
we
are
interested
because
we
have,
as
a
commission,
decided
that
we
are
interested
in
this
role
being
filled.
B
We've
previously
done
that
and
they
and
that,
but
I
think
we
should
add
in
that
a
lot
of
time
has
passed
because
of
the
non-response
and
that
that
is
also
troubling
to
the
commission
that
we
weren't
responded
to
and
if
there's
a
a
reason,
why
that
he
wasn't
able
to
respond,
that's
one
matter,
but
the
but
being
ignored,
isn't
acceptable.
So
I
think
you
do
need
to
go
to
his
supervisor,
but
we've
already
stated
it
unequivocally.
We
support
both
roles.
I
won't
go
into
my
reasons.
Why?
Because
we've
done
it
before.
I
I
I
definitely
hear
the
argument
where,
if
there's
a
person
who
had
expertise
across
bureaus
and
could
direct
people
inside
those
bureaus
to
do
something
that
would
be
positive,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
big
difference
between
someone
from
ochs-
and
you
know
the
person
that
we
had
in
in
Eric
Holmes,
there's
something
important
about
having
a
an
experience
of
being
an
officer
that
Commander
Holmes
was
able
to
bring
as
an
lgbtq
liaison
and
I
think.
There
are
probably
other
people
in
the
bureau
who
would
be
able
to
do
something
similar.
C
If
you're
having
trouble
in
an
email
response,
Sometimes
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
like
there's,
there's,
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
email
that
folks
get
on
a
variety
of
things.
Every
time,
and
sometimes
literally,
we
just
don't
see
them.
Sometimes
City
systems
prevent
stuff
from
coming
through
from
the
outside.
H
I
I
I
I
agree
with
you
Maria
and
I
I.
Now
that
I
have
a
new
role
in
Treasure
I'd
I'd
like
to
just
be
pointed
in
the
right
direction
of
who
do
I
speak
with
so
that
I
can
I
am
a
very
phone
call
person
as
well
I
think
you're
right.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
I'll
reach
out
to
you
and
kind
of
get
your
advice
on
who
I
should
reach
out
to
and.
C
That
is
my
city
cell
phone
number,
so
you
can
you
can
call
or
text
there,
and
that
is
always
on
me
and
it's
probably
one
of
the
most
reliable
ways
to
get
a
hold
of
me
and
then
Denise
I
will
connect
you
with
Patrick,
who
is
in
our
office
of
management
and
budget
and
he's
the
one
who
knows
and
understands
the
city's
budget
better
than
just
about
anybody
in
the
city.
D
Do
we
have
a
database
with
all
these
important
contacts
with
their
phone
numbers
and
emails.
C
All
of
their
contact
information
is
on
the
city
website
in
their
departments
that
they're
in
there's
going
to
be
a
a
revamp
of
that
coming
soon.
There's
some
you
know
title
changes
and
stuff
in
dealing
with
the
city
budget,
so
some
of
the
information
could
shift
and
change
as
position
shipped
and
change,
but
it
should
be
up
to
date
shortly
after
the
New
Year
in
terms
of
everything.
Okay,.
G
So,
given
all
this
feedback,
I
would
propose
that
we
request
a
meeting
with
the
appropriate
person
in
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
to
discuss
all
of
this
and
get
a
better
understanding
of.
What's
realistic.
What
could
be
done
and
we
can
do
that
in
the
new
year.
G
I
do
want
to
just
add
one
thing:
having
worked
across
six
administrations,
the
calling
people
has
its
place,
but
getting
things
in
writing
has
its
place
too,
especially
when
there's
an
electronic
record
of
a
communication,
so
I
think
both
are
probably
wise,
especially
when
trying
to
follow
up
with
someone
about
an
official
inquiry,
and
I
will
do
that.
Well,
I
should
bring
this
back
to
you.
Of
course.
G
Would
you
like
me
to
do
that?
I
would
like
make
a
motion
that
we
contact
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
to
request
a
meeting
to
discuss
these
concerns,
all
of
the
ones
that
were
brought
up
here
tonight
and
more
in
January,
hopefully
early
and
see
what
we
can
work
out
to.
You
know
resolve
our
concerns.
So
that's
my
motion.
D
A
Thank
you,
Maria
all
right,
I
think
that
passes.
A
So
the
next
one's
mine
re
I
apologize,
sent
us
that
email
to
you
earlier
this
afternoon,
but
just
following
up
from
our
conversation
last
month
about
the
idea
manager
and
just
for
that
position
that
will
be
involved
with
our
commission
from
the
way
it
sounded
just
wondering
if
we
I'll.
A
If
we
can
talk
offline
about
this
as
well,
but
just
any
updates
on
you
know
with
if
that
person
has
already
been
selected
talking
through
the
different
things
looking
for
in
that
position,
in
addition
to,
if
they
have
just
kind
of
understanding
a
little
bit,
how
the
the
role
will
engage
with
our
commission.
C
Yeah
and
I'm
happy
to
to
connect
you
to
the
to
the
person
who's
going
to
be
stepping
into
that
role
in
the
New
Year.
Her
name
is
Morgan
Overton
she's,
a
fantastic
young
Dynamic
black
woman,
who
does
some
incredible
work.
She's
currently
is
has
in
her
past,
been
on
the
gender
Equity
commission.
She
served
on
the
board
of
directors
for
Planned
Parenthood,
so
she's
she's,
a
fairly
remarkable
young
woman
who's
going
to
bring
a
lot
of
energy
to
the
position.
A
C
They're
going
to
be
split,
so
we
took
what
was
two
part-time
positions
of
the
gender
Equity
commission
and
the
lgbtqa
commission
and
merge
them
into
one
into
one
role
to
really
under
well.
We
understood
that
sort
of
the
intersectionality
of
the
work
that
our
commissions
are
sort
of
tasked
with
and
thought
instead
of
having
two
separate
individuals
siled
into
their
work,
to
have
one
position
who
could
sort
of
really
understand
the
broader
scope
of
the
intersectionality
of
everything
that
we're
trying
to
do
in
order
to
help
provide
the
the
best
service
to
the
city.
I
I
heard
of
the
business
idea
manager
is
that
inclusion,
diversity,
equity
and
access.
That's.
C
This
is
another
idea
manager,
that's
under
the
office
of
the
mayors,
but
I
can
I
can
pull
together.
More
information
provokes
on
on
sort
of
job
description
and
that
sort
of
stuff.
I
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
guess.
My
question
was
more
so
whether
this
person
was
also
going
to
be
looking
at
accessibility
in
the
city
like
if
this
is
in
any
way
going
to
be
related
to
the
Ada
manager.
Role
that
I
know
is
is
moving
or,
if
that's
also
going
to
stay
separate.
C
That
is
moving
into
an
up
into
the
office
of
the
mayor
was
currently
in
the
planning
department.
So
we're
bringing
it
up
here
and
there's
going
to
be
an
office
of
compliance
that
we're
creating.
That
really
is
around
the
the
Ada
manager,
but
also
some
of
the
other
compliance
and
enforcement
things
regarding
things
like
paid
sick
leave.
The
council
passed
this
year
so
stuff
related
to
abortion,
rights
and
abortion
access.
C
So
so
we'll
have
a
sort
of
group
of
folks
who
are
who
are
dealing
with
the
statutory
compliance
work
and
that's
where
we
envisioned
that
the
Ada
coordinator
position
living
in
and
they'll
have
an
expanded
role,
we're
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
City
County
task
force,
we're
finalizing
the
the
updated
job
description
out
of
a
town
hall
meeting
that
we
had
with
the
disability
Community
earlier
this
year
in
terms
of
like
reimagining.
I
A
C
Absolutely
I'll
get
that
around
to
folks
as
soon
as
I
can
thank.
G
Maria,
this
probably
would
take
up
too
much
time
right
now,
but
could
you
give
us
some
very
specific
background
on
Morgan's
familiarity
with
lgbtq
their
competency?
Their
roles
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
adjacent
pieces
that
you
mentioned,
which
is
fine
but
I'm,
just
curious,
specifically
about
their
qualifications,
to
to
work
with
our
commission
in
the
context
of
lgbtq
folks
and
I.
Don't
really
want
to
get
into
that
right
now,
but
maybe
you
could
send
their
CV
or
an
introduction,
or
something
like
that.
E
A
So
I
can
reach
out
to
her
and
set
something
up
with
the
entire
commission.
If
that
would
be
helpful
for
the
group,
if
you'd
be
interested
in
talking
with
her.
E
A
G
And
I
can
be
very
brief.
City
council
would
like
to
meet
with
the
executive
committee
in
early
January
and
then
to
set
up
a
full
post
agenda
meeting
where
the
entire
commission
would
be
invited
to
meet
with
the
entire
Council
later
in
the
month,
and
so
that's
that's
a
request.
I
didn't
accept.
I'm,
assuming
they're
would
really
be
no
inherent
objection
to
that,
but
we
should
discuss
that
concurrent
with
that
is.
G
The
idea
that
I
would
like
I
would
recommend
that
the
commission
set
up
a
working
group,
perhaps
to
look
at
how
we
work
with
city
council
so
that
we
can
strengthen
those
relationships.
Working
with
nine
different
counselors
is
a
lot
of
work
and
effort
and
energy.
G
There's
a
lot
of
things
happening,
we're
not
aware
of
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
systemic
approach
to
figure
out
what
would
be
to
make
the
most
sense
for
us
to,
for
example,
when
they're
proposing
some
contract
issues,
we
want
to
make
sure
lgbtq
owned.
Businesses
are
part
of
those,
the
definition
of
minority-owned
businesses
very,
very
simple
example.
G
G
So
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
City
council's
request
to
have
the
executive
committee
meet
with
with
them
and
then
to
set
up
a
formal
post
agenda
meeting.
B
B
Aye
for
a
boat
you,
the
floor
is
open
for
discussion.
If
anyone
wants
to
comment
on
it
before.
C
C
G
The
working
group
would
be
separate.
This
first
meeting
would
be
city
council.
Several
members
wanted
to
meet
with
us
so
similar
to
the
meeting
with
the
mayor
to
talk
about
our
work,
to
hear
from
them.
G
I
think
a
post
agenda
is
somewhat
structured.
It
would
have
to
be
on
a
Wednesday
in
city,
council
chambers.
We
would
work
up
our
agenda.
What
our
priorities
are,
that
we
want
to
share
I,
don't
have
any
specific
thing:
I
want
to
talk
to
them
about
myself,
I'm,
just
interested
in
having
that
communication
and
I
know.
G
People
have
brought
up
issues
before
so
it
would
be
a
way
to
formalize
having
those
kinds
of
conversations
and
I
can
talk
about
the
working
group,
but
I
don't
want
to
muddy
the
water
so
because
I
think
the
meeting
is
that's
their
request
of
us.
The
working
group
is
my
idea
in
response
to
their
request.
If
that
makes
sense
and.
C
Apologies
promoting
the
waters
there,
Billy
I
I,
withdraw
my
question
at
this
point
in
time
regarding
the
working
group
and
yeah
I.
Think
you
know,
post
agendas
in
general
are
very
like
topic
specific,
so
I
think
just
ensuring
that
there
is
a
very
specific
area
of
discussion
for
the
post-agenda
hearing
would
be
extremely
beneficial.
G
And
I
think
Maria,
for
if
we
plan
that
you
know
as
we
play
if
we
plan
that
for
your
input
would
be
great,
you
know
to
have
that,
be
it
effective
use
of
our
time.
B
Yeah
I
want
to
comment
on
if
this
can
work
out,
I
think
having
the
the
meeting
should.
B
Should
this
motion
be
adopted
that
the
executive
committee
meet
with
the
those
of
city
council
were
part
of
that
first
meeting
prior
to
our
January
regular
meeting
of
the
commission
and
that
the
hopefully
the,
if
possible,
the
post-agenda
meeting
happened
after
the
January
meeting,
so
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
for
the
executive
committee
to
report
back
and
for
us
to
have
a
common
understanding
of
the
post
agenda
meeting
and
what
our
goals
would
be
and
I
think
the
executive
committee
can
bring
information
on
that.
C
A
G
Great,
thank
you.
The
other
motion
I'd
like
to
submit
is
that
we
establish
a
working
group
committee.
Well,
I,
don't
know
Billy
what
the
appropriate
term
would
be.
This
is
not
a
permanent
structure
to
take
a
look
at
our
relationship,
our
role,
our
interactions
with
City
Council
as
an
institution
including
having
a
representative
serve
on
our
commission
and
determine
how
we
can
improve
that.
If
we
should
really
it's
a
very
poli-sci
kind
of
effort,
city
council
is
a
complicated
Beast.
G
B
B
Create
a
working
group
to
work
on
developing
our
relationship
with
city
council.
C
E
B
G
Well,
I
would
say
would
be,
people
are
interested,
so
hopefully
at
least
three
commissioners
and
the
group
would
decide
the
second
question
I
believe
based
on
availability
and
and
once
we
have
a
sense
of
what
scope
of
work
we'd
want
to
pursue.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
answer
because
I
can't
say
for
sure
what
other
people
would
want
to
commit
to,
but
I
would
imagine
it
would
be
open
to
the
entire
commission.
Whoever
would
like
to
participate.
G
C
G
G
We
have
community
members
in
every
district
and
I
would
like
for
each
of
those
commission
those
districts
offices
to
understand
what
we
do
to
be
able
to
utilize
us
as
a
resource
when,
when
possible
or
necessary,
to
reach
out
to
include
us
in
the
legislative
process,
not
just
on
lgbtq
legislation
but
other
kinds
of
legislation.
G
There's
been
some
recent
changes
in
city
council.
They
hired
a
slew
of
I,
don't
know
what
the
term
is
actually
of.
Folks
that
are,
do
you
mean
Outreach
kind
of
work
that,
on
behalf
of
all
of
the
council
members
and
so
I
I
personally,
think
it'd
be
good
for
us
to
understand
how
city
council
is
structured,
be
able
to
share
that
information
with
the
whole
commission
beyond
what
we
can
get
on
the
internet
and
and
talk
about
everything
from
Maria?
G
What
you
shared
with
the
post
agenda
meeting
information,
that's
good
to
know,
I
what
they
expect
of
us,
what
their
relationship
is
with
other
commissions,
and
then
we
do
need
to
talk
about
the
city.
Commission
role.
G
I
mean
the
commissioner
seat
because
Bruce
will
not
be
returning
to
office
and
so
he'll
be
leaving
that
seat
at
the
end
of
the
year.
2023
they'll
need
to
be
a
new
appointment,
so
we
can
take
advantage
of
that
year
to
talk
about
that
appointment
and
what's
constructive
and
useful
having
a
City
Commissioner
sit
on
that
having
a
city
councilor
sit
on,
a
commission
hasn't
always
proven
to
be
useful
in
a
day-to-day
sense.
G
H
I
Yeah
I
had
a
brief
question
about
something
you
had
said
sue,
which
is
that
we
report
equally
to
the
the
mayor's
office
and
Council
and
I
guess.
I
had
always
understood
this
commission
to
be
advisory
to
the
mayor's
office
and
not
as
much
to
council.
I,
don't
know
if
I
misunderstood
that
or
yeah.
Maybe
I
misunderstood
that
if
anyone
has
any
like
clarifying
anything
for
me.
G
So,
historically,
going
back
to
2006
the
predecessor
to
this
body
was
an
advisory
committee
to
the
mayor.
It
took
very
incarnations
throughout
both
the
ravenstall
and
the
Pluto
Administration,
and
then
the
Pluto
Administration
decided
to
create
a
commission
and
worked
with
city
council
we're
an
independent
body.
So
we
do
not.
We
provide
advice
to
anyone,
but
we
don't
serve
at
as
an
advice
in
a
sense,
we're
not
appointed
by
and
I.
Don't
know
if
I
have
the
right
word.
G
Billy
could
probably
explain
this
better
than
us,
but
we're
an
independent
commission
and
we
serve
the
entire
city,
and
that
certainly
includes
both
branches
of
government
and
I.
Think
we
work
more
closely
with
the
mayor
because
we're
executing
things,
but
we
should
be
working
with
city
council,
at
least
in
some
capacity.
I
G
And
I
do
I
think
going
to
what
Denise
said.
That
also
means
we
serve
the
community,
of
course,
core
people
Institute
Community
groups,
businesses-
all
of
that
so,
but
we
can't
do
all
of
that
at
once.
So
if
we
perhaps,
if
we
start
with
city
council,
we
can
get
a
better
idea
of
what
what
that
looks
like.
I
E
G
B
I'll
jump
in
it
only
because
I
like
an
opportunity
to
read
the
good
things
that
we
created
and
even
though
that
some
time
has
passed,
you
know
the
we
worked
on
our
mission
and
vision
statement
and
we
use
the
legislation
to
to
guide
our
mission
statement
and
we
so
we
we
said
the
the
Pittsburgh
lgbtqia
plus
commission,
advises
the
mayor's
office
city,
council
and
other
city
government
departments
on
issues
pertaining
to
the
Pittsburgh
lgbtqia
plus
community.
B
In
addition
to
advising
city
government
on
legislative,
administrative
and
budgetary
decisions,
the
commission
acts
as
a
resource
to
create
dialogue
by
elevating
lgbtqi,
plus
voices
and
advancing
communication
between
the
lgbtqi
plus
community
and
city
government.
So
I
think
that,
given
that
that
this
working
group
is
properly
created
and
that
we
will
be
attending
to
our
part
of
our
mission
by
engaging
in
it.
D
Yes,
I
just
want
to
clarify
when
Marcus
and
I
were
on
the
and
Sarah
was
also
on
the
advisory
Council.
We
were
the
ones
who
proposed
that
the
advisory
Council
moved
into
a
commission.
It
was
not
the
mayor's
initiative,
but
he
did
back
what
we
were
trying
to
do.
G
D
And-
and
so
I
applaud
you
for
that,
but
we
also
dove
into
creating
an
initial
bylaw.
That
was
a
a
plan
for
what
we
were
proposing
with
the
mayor.
So
we've
formalized
I
think
what
you
were
hoping
for
and
wrote
about
about.
We
were
in
the
position
to
hopefully
make
it
happen
so,
and
there
was
a
group
of
us
it
was.
You
know
that
whole
advisory
Council
worked
to
make
more
visibility
possible
for
our
community.
G
I
I
A
H
A
H
Thanks
Marcus
I
have
a
calendar
of
dates
for
2023
that
I've
input
into
scheduling
for
the
social
media
so
by
tomorrow,
we'll
have
all
of
the
relevant
dates
and
I'll
I
could
send
those
along
for
everybody
and
make
sure
that
I'm
not
missing
anything,
but
those
will
be
pre-scheduled
to
you
know,
hit
and
post
on
social
the
day
that
it
occurs.
H
You
know
the
other
thing
that
I
I
wanted
to
I.
Guess
it's
not
really
on
the
agenda,
but
the
social
media
request
form
and
the
social
media
post
I
would
just
ask
that
everybody
share
and
on
your
personal
social
media.
If
you
can
just
to
start
bringing
some
visibility
to
our
page.
H
You
know
we,
we
talked
about
the
social
media,
post,
request,
form
and
I.
Think
that
at
this
point,
we've
decided
that
it's.
For
you
know,
internal
use
only
which
I
think
is
a
is
a
good,
is
a
good
idea.
So
if
anybody
has
any
suggestions
or
want
to
post
anything,
I'll
send
that
link
out
again.
H
H
You
know
every
other
day
and
it's
very
fluid
so,
as
things
happen,
I
try
to
catch
it,
and
so,
if
I'll
send
along
the
calendar,
I'll
send
along
a
link
to
the
request
form
and
if
anybody
has
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to.
Let
me
know.
B
This
is
this
was
submitted
by
Guillermo
and
if,
if
he
were
here,
he
would
speak
to
it
his
he
wanted
to
just
not
necessarily
started
conversation
about
it
at
this
meeting,
but
to
make
the
the
assertion
that
part
of
our
Outreach
obligations
can
include
com
attending
for
Commissioners
to
attend
Community
meetings
and
events,
and
his
thinking
and
his
communication
to
me
was
that
we
should
start
thinking
about
that
that
we
be
more
visible
in
the
community
than
we
have
been
able
to
be
because
of
a
course.
B
B
D
I
support
this
and
it
would
just
be
good
to
have
a
a
link
to
what
these
Community
meetings
are.
I
mean
a
list
of
them,
so
we
are
aware
of
what
is
out
there.
B
Well,
I'll
say
this:
we
do
have
a
you
know:
I
forget
the
exact
name
of
the
Outreach
committee
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
an
Outreach
coordinator
as
an
officer,
so
this
you
know
I
think
that
doing
some
effort
to
make
these
meetings
and
events
known
are
can
be
part
of
that
committee
and
I
think
our
executive
committee
will
have
to
work
on
how
that
will
that
will
happen
absent
this
particular
role.
A
All
right
so
moving
along
and
I
since
Guillermo's
out
I,
don't
know
if
there's
really
an
update
on
the
budget
other
than
I
know.
We
submitted
that
request
to
the
mayor's
office
for
clarification
on
that.
C
So
I
can
give
am
I
unmuted.
C
You
are
okay,
great
sorry,
I
just
was
pulling
out
my
notes,
so
I
sent
there
your
budget
request
letter
to
our
office
of
management
and
budget
to
get
a
look
back
at
you
know
what
you
all
had
requested
for
the
years
2020
and
2021.
C
There
was
money
in
the
office
of
equity
for
programming
and
I
can
send
those
those
numbers
for
you,
but
in
2020
it
was
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
in
2021
it
was
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
twenty
twenty
one
there's
an
additional
amended
budget
to
add
an
additional
2
500
for
a
total
of
thirty
thousand
in
2022
was
added
the
40
144
part-time
LGBT,
Joy,
plus
commission,
employee
and
again
2022
office
of
equity
programming
for
fifty
five
thousand
dollars.
C
Nobody
here
is
was
privy
to
the
conversations
with
prior
leadership
on
sort
of
what
the
budget
and
those
programming
dollars
were
sort
of
allocated
for,
but
it
could
be.
We
can't
guarantee
if
it
was
meant
explicitly
just
for
the
commission
or
if
it
was
intended
for
the
office
of
equity
itself.
So
we're
still
doing
a
little
bit
of
digging
to
get
some
information
there,
but
in
terms
of
sort
of
like,
as
I
discussed
in
the
in
the
previous
meeting,
we
had
the
way
the
the
city
budget
works.
C
So
the
first
thing
I
just
want
to
make
clear
is
there
have
been?
No?
There
were
no
expenditures
against
those
allocations
during
the
prior
Administration
so
that
money
existed.
That
was
never
any
allocations
for
that
money
that
was
ever
processed
through
the
procurement
process
and
and
so
that
that
didn't
happen
in
the
in
the
priors
to
this
year
and
so
far
there
have
been
no
expenditures
this
year.
C
The
the
way
this
money
works
for
the
City
of
Pittsburgh
and
the
budget
works
is
if
money
is
unspent,
it
rolls
into
the
reserve
fund
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
so
any
any
money
that
is
unspend
for
any
reason,
be
it
a
position
was
unfilled
or
her
project
wasn't
completed
all
that
money
rolls
over
into
into
the
the
city's
Reserve
fund,
so
any
any
previous
dollars.
That
is,
that
is
how
that
that
money
works
from
a
budgetary
standpoint.
A
Thanks
for
that,
clarification,
Brian
we'll
be
on
the
lookout
for
the
additional
information
sounds.
A
Just
to
move
us
along
the
first
unfinished
business,
I
think
Sue.
This
might
have
been
your
item.
The
update
on
the
status
on
the
missing
child.
G
C
I
sent
you
a
Twitter,
DM
I
was
away
from
my
email
when
it
came
through,
but
the
child
has
been
located
in
the
and
the
public
safety
issue
that
that
the
child
has
been
located.
G
E
A
G
When
I
propose
this,
it
was
the
strike
the
Post
Gazette
strike
and
other
changes.
City
paper
change
in
leadership
and
their
publisher
producing
the
Post
Gazette
now
is
the
impact
this
has
on
coverage
of
our
community.
G
It
really
I
think
I
brought
this
up
a
couple
months
ago.
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
anything
specific,
unique
to
add
right
now,
except
that
you
know
it's
a
concern
it
if
wesa
and
wyp
going
strike
it's
it's.
It's
going
to
be
more
of
a
concern
and
I'm
not
advocating
against
strikes
at
all
I'm.
Just
saying
that
how
the
how
the
media
covers
our
community
is
really
important
and.
G
I
hope
everyone
is
aware
of
the
strike
with
the
Post-Gazette
is
aware
of
the
issues
and
is
aware
of
Who's
involved.
It
is,
is
you
know,
I
can't
ask
you,
as
a
commissioner,
take
a
stance
on
it,
but
if
you're
not,
please
make
it
some
time
to
take
a
look
at
the
strike
paper
and
the
strike
paper
came
to
outrageous
Pingo
last
week
and
covered
it
did
a
really
nice
job.
I
thought
got
into
some
pretty
important
issues.
G
A
Moving
on
to
the
next
one,
just
in
terms
of
commissioner
terms
so
I
believe
well
myself
and
as
an
example
terms,
are
coming
to
an
end
and
we
have
some
other
also
open
positions.
So
just
some
questions,
I
guess,
as
finals
may
have
to
come
from
the
mayor's
office
just
about
what
to
do
for
those
different
terms
and
and
filling
the
other
positions
as
well.
B
Yeah
I
think
I
think
that
we
need
to
communicate
to
the
mayor's
office
our
interest
in
in
knowing
what
what
happens
at
the
end
of
the
term.
We
just
elected
Marcus
and
his
term
ends
on
February,
28th
jams,
Hammond's
term
ends
on
February,
28th
and
Lenny.
Orbovich's
term
ends
on
February
28th,
and
you
know
the
just.
The
three
of
them
alone
are
so
significant
in
our
commission
and
and
it
it's
the
the
enabling.
The
the
resolution
passed
by
City
Council
a
few
years
ago
says
their
terms
expire.
B
So
we,
if
there
needs
to
be
action
on
reappointing
them
or
an
assurance
that
without
reappointing
or
appointing
someone
new
that
they're
they
just
continue
in
their
role.
We
I
think
we
need
a
clarification
on
that
and
we
need
also
to
make
a
statement
on
filling
the
the
vacancies,
as
well
as
a
response
on
our
recommendation
regarding
one
commissioner.
So
I
think
that
the
the
the
co-chairs
could
just
send
a
letter
asking
those
things.
B
C
I
can
I
can
gather
that
and
clarify
a
little
bit
and
then
the
the
person
in
the
mayor's
office,
who,
who
oversees
the
the
process
of
appointing
boards
and
commission
members,
is
Felicity
Williams
that
the
Deputy
Chief
of
Staff.
So
if
you're
going
to
do
sort
of
a
formal
inquiry,
she
would
be
the
individual
to
direct
that
to
do.
C
I
would
recommend
that
as
a
if
the
commission
makes
a
motion
to
do
so
that
that
would
be
that
the
best
way
to
get
that
correspondence
moving
in
terms
of
commissioner
terms
ending
and
what
does
that
look
like
in
the
in
the
new
year?.
B
Okay,
then
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
the
that
the
commission,
by
its
spokespersons,
the
co-chairs
contact
the
the
appropriate
person
in
the
mayor's
office
who
oversees
the
the
terms
of
members
of
boards
and
commissions
so
that
we
can
get
answers
to
the
questions
that
would
follow.
I
won't
put
all
the
questions
in
the
motion
and
then
but
I'll
certainly
help
with
writing
that
that
communication.
If,
if
this
motion
is
seconded
and
and
approved,.
F
A
Thank
you
Lenny,
so
any
other
comments
or
questions
before
coding.
A
All
right,
if
not
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
hi.
D
B
B
So
no
we're
at
of
the
seats
that
count.
We
have
six
right
now,
not
seven.
C
Short
of
a
corner
to
past
the
motion,
I
would
strongly
urge
the
executive
members
here
send
a
a
letter
requesting
information
about
the
terms
to
Deputy
Chief
of
Staff
policy
Williams.
You
know.
A
B
Yeah
when
so,
since
we're
now
in
between
meetings
the
the
executive
committee,
the
executive
committee
can
take
action
on
behalf
of
the
commission
in
between
so
yeah.
We'll
we'll
take
care
of
that.
B
Well,
we
had
Quorum,
it
was
not
particularly
controversial
motion,
apparently.
A
A
So
then,
the
next
last
thing
in
terms
of
new
business
is
just
oh
sorry,
I
skipped
over
when
to
begin
in
person,
meetings.
B
C
I'm
gonna
send
everyone
here.
The
the
mayor's
office
has
a
volunteer
sign
up
form
that
we
use
to
find
new
candidates
for
various
boards
and
commissions
we
lost
it.
C
We
launched
it
earlier
this
spring
in
April,
with
a
specific
ideas
around
increasing
the
number
of
black
indigenous
Latin
Asian
people
of
color
women,
lgbtqa,
plus
immigrants
and
individuals
with
disability
and
serving
across
the
different
boards
and
commissions
for
the
the
city
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
then
we
also
do
as
as
we
did
earlier
this
year
with
the
the
which
board
was
that
it
was
the
I
believe
it
might
have
been.
C
The
disruptive
Properties
review
board
I
made
an
inquiry
directly
to
this
commission
for
for
recommendations
from
the
community
that
may
wish
to
serve
on
that
board.
So
we
do
utilize
that
as
well
as
part
of
that
and
then
so.
C
To
that
form,
which
is
designed
to
help
us
find
and
recruit
more
diverse,
Talent
pools
to
serve
on
our
board
commissions.
G
G
Not
to
bring
up
here
so
I
apologize,
that's
what
you
said
mentioned
will
be
useful,
I
think
to
get
there.
C
G
Go
yeah.
This
wasn't
meant
to
be
an
agenda
item,
so
I
I
apologize
for
that
I
do
have
a
piece
of
new
business.
If
for
consideration,
if
not
debate,
we
have
received
Communications
from
the
community
on
different
matters
and
it
contains
confidential
information.
G
We
sometimes
they're
seeking
help,
sometimes
they're,
it's
just
expressing
an
opinion,
but
more
often
it's
been
expressing
help
requesting
help
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
manage
that
information,
both
in
a
short
term
to
protect
the
confidentiality
and
the
privacy
and
respect
any
kind
of
ethical
obligations.
We
have
around
their
personal
information,
but
we
also
have
to
have
a
paper
trail
of
how
we've
responded
so
that
we
can.
You
know
we
can
document
that
not
everybody
on
the
commission
has
to
see
this
person's
name
or
gender
or
anything
like
that.
G
You
know
it's
just
and
again,
you
know
what
I
was
thinking
is.
We
could
maybe
put
together
a
working
group.
We
have
some
really
good
experts
here.
We
have
Kathy
Boyle,
we
have
Chris
Robinson,
we
have
Shantae
who
and
Sarah
who
do
this
work
and
perhaps
could
make
some
recommendations
on
how
we
could
manage
it.
We
have
to
have
a
solution.
We
can't
just
let
it
just
sit
in
our
inboxes.
G
That's
not
safe
or
responsible
to
to
those
people,
so
I'm
not
suggesting
we
create
a
master
database,
but
perhaps
the
city
could
help
us
with
that.
You
know.
Maybe
there
is
somebody
that
could
put
together
a
spreadsheet
for
us,
or
we
could
put
it
in
the
drive
for
now,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
necessarily
as
secure
as
it
should
be.
So
it's
a
concern.
I
have
because
I
realize
that
we
have
this
information.
G
B
G
On
and
and
get
some
ideas
going
so
that
we
we
can
attend
to
this
in
a
way
that's
responsible.
I
G
Next
to
Beyonce
oh
come
on,
you
didn't
even
see
that
yeah
I
was
I
was
named,
one
of
the
12
people
of
the
Year
by
The,
Advocate
and.
G
E
D
Yeah
can
I
have
a
quick
announcement.
I
am
doing
costume
design
for
a
city,
theater
show
called
what
the
Constitution
means
to
me,
which
deals
with
our
queer
Community
in
the
subject
matter
and
one
of
the
characters
comes
out
as
gay.
D
So
it's
a
very
powerful
discussion
of
what
the
Constitution
is
all
about
and
and
it's
a
a
true
story
of
how
a
young
girl
put
away
herself
through
college
by
going
around
the
country
having
a
debate
about
the
Constitution
and
it's
the
the
writing
is
very
powerful
and
it
speaks
to
our
community.
It
opens
that
City
Theater
January
27th,
so
please
try
to
make
it
I
know
Marcus.
You
and
Lou
will
be
there.
A
C
I'm,
not
sure
folks
saw,
but
the
mayor
invited
the
O'donnell
family
in
to
have
a
personal
meeting
with
him
to
talk
about
their
experience
and
sort
of
what
they've
been
going
through.
It
was
a
a
really
beautiful
meeting.
The
the
family
was
was
was
it
was
great
to
get
to
show
them
around
the
mayor's
office
and
to
to
chat
with
him
and
and
the
mayor
about
the
about
what
they've
been
going
through
in
the
in
the
city
and
what
the
mayor
can
be
doing
to
to
help
support.
E
G
I
know
they
were
so
excited
about
that
and
Christopher
who
plans
to
be
mayor
soon
in
particular
was
was
very
excited,
but
to
just
let
you
all
know
how
the
wheels
of
Justice
are
turning,
but
they
still
haven't
even
finished
the
preliminary
round
of
court
hearing
hearing.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
slot
and
the
we
are
now
we've
distributed
close
to
1200,
protect
trans
kid
signs.
G
We
now
have
stickers
and
pens
we're
trying
to
get
the
pens
into
Healthcare
settings.
The
healthcare
providers
don't
want
a
public
presentation
because,
because
the
threat
they're
facing
because
of
the
threat
the
trans
kids
are
facing.
So
if
you
know
any
health
care
providers.
G
I'm
worried
about
the
family
they're
very
connected
with
resources,
but
it's
exhausting
though
the
woman
who
posted
the
sign
started
posting
signs
of
people's
houses,
calling
them
pedophiles
on
Facebook,
and
luckily
someone
talked
her
out
of
that.
But
that
was
horrifying.
You
know-
and
fortunately
she
picked
people
who
were
resilient
enough
to
be
able
to
roll
with
that,
but
she
could
easily
not
done
that.
A
So
nowhere
a
little
past
seven
but
so
I
think
unless
there's
anything
else,
we
can
wrap
up.
E
A
Well,
happy
holidays,
everybody,
everyone
stay
safe
and
well,
and
then
yeah
I
guess
we'll
see
all
each
other
in
the
new
year.
Hopefully
earlier.