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From YouTube: Meet The People: Sally Stadelman
Description
On this episode of #MeetThePeople, Sally Stadelman from the Urban Redevelopment Authority and the Pittsburgh Land Bank tells us about her history working for the city and authority, how all of that experience led her to this current position, and what song she could listen to for 24 straight hours.
A
A
B
A
A
B
She's
very
jealous
yeah,
you
know
what
a
great
question
I
don't
know,
I
think
I
think
the
pandemic
had
happened
and
it
just
you
know
it.
Just
kind
of
Shook.
Up
I
had
a
little
more
time
on
my
hands
and
could
grow
my
hair
through
all
those
very
uncomfortable,
awkward
phrase.
Phases
of
you
know
going
from
short
to
long,
and
here
I
am
I,
don't
know,
I
woke
up
and
it
was
this.
A
A
B
B
Did
an
internship
and
I
was
placed
in
the
office
of
councilman,
Bill,
peduto
I,
know
him
yeah
yeah,
and
that
began
this
career
local
government
and
I.
You
know,
I,
just
I
couldn't
be
happier
and
I
just
I
love
working
for
there's,
there's
really
something
magic
about
local
government
and
how
close
you
are
to
the
people
that
you
serve,
and
you
know
how
you
could
you
really
get
to
see
the
change
happen
before
you
in
the
place
that
you
live.
A
B
Know
I
think
you
have
to
be
a
a
permanent
resident,
so
it
certainly
would
have
been
that.
But
you
know
the
European.
Union
is
a
huge
organization.
I
mean
there's
there's
just
there
are
so
many
different
things
that
you
could.
You
could
do
you
know
and
I
would
meet
fellow
Americans
that
had
had
work
and
had
positions
there.
So
you
know,
as
a
you
know,
20
year
old
I,
don't
know
that
I
knew
exactly.
B
A
You
said
you
were
placed
in
councilman
peduto's
office.
What
kind
of
did
you
have
any
preconceived
notions
about
local
government?
Did
you
have
any
idea
what
you
were
getting
involved
in,
or
did
you
just
think
this
is
where
I'm
being
placed
and
I'll
just
go
there
for
a
couple
of
months
and
be
done
with
it.
B
A
B
Don't
know
I,
don't
know
what
I
was
I
don't
know.
I
I
definitely
was
interested
and
eager
to
learn
and
understand
what
what
was
going
on-
and
you
know,
I
think
the
great
thing
about
you
know:
I
mean
really
working
in
any
elected
officials,
office
and
I.
Think
what
is
just
such
a
great
introductory
job
that
I
wish
everyone
could
spend
a
year
doing
is
Frontline
constituent
Services.
B
You
know
they
had
me
answering
the
phone
and
talking
to
whoever
it
was
calling
calling
us
up
with
whatever
ideas
or
issues
or
problems
they
had
and
I've
done.
That
work.
For
you
know
many
years
now
and
in
the
roles
I've
had
at
the
city,
and
it's
just
so
it's
humbling
and
it's
centering,
and
you
know
it
keeps
you
honest
and
really
helps
you
to
see
what
you
look
like
to
the
outside
world.
You
know
how
are
others
perceiving
local
government?
A
B
B
Wasn't
I
wouldn't
say
that
it
was
there
wasn't
a
you
know,
a
light
bulb
moment.
I
think
it
was
that
I
had
I
had
a
good
experience
and
I
enjoyed
what
I
did
and
what
I
was
what
I
was
doing
in
that
role
and
when
I
was
offered
the
opportunity
to
stick
around
I
I
took
it
because
I,
you
know
I
liked.
The
mentors
I
had
developed,
I
I
liked
the
subject
matter,
and
you
know
so.
B
The
role
after
that
was
was
working
on
a
campaign
and
that
you
know
again,
I
wish
I
wish
everyone
could
spend,
have
the
experience
of
being
a
a
campaign
worker,
because
it's
just
the
what
you
learn.
You
know
being
out
there
in
the
field
talking
to
your
residents
day
in
and
day
out,
it's.
It
is
a
fundamentally
important
part
of
our
democracy
that
that
exposure
between
government
and
the
people
that
it
serves.
A
B
B
B
Yeah
400
mayors
and
everybody
figured
out
hey
Lori
lawyerker.
She
knows
her
stuff
and
we
need
to
get
her
in
here
and
and
get
this
ship
running
smoothly.
You
know,
and
so
they
so
they
brought
Lori
in
and
they
said,
Sally
I
think
you
would
really
be
a
better
fit
doing
constituent
services
and
Community
Affairs.
B
A
B
B
The
residents
that
participated,
their
jobs
would
be
on
the
floor
and
they
would
say
I
can't
believe
the
city
does
so
much
stuff.
I
had
no
idea
how
involved
all
of
this
was
how
many
employees
there
were,
how
many
services
there
are
and
I.
You
know
and
I
wish
I
wish.
You
know
another
one.
We
could
get
everybody
to
come,
do
constituent
services
and
go
through
the
Civic
Leadership
Academy.
To
really
you
know,
take
the
time
to
see
how
much
good
work
local
government
does.
B
B
Pwsa
I
got
to
write
legislation
to
create
the
tree
task
force
the
task
force
for
tree
protection
and
what
I
also
had
started
working
on
at
that
time
was
a
something
that
would
pop
up
periodically
in
my
constituent
calls
where
matters
pertaining
to
homelessness
and
what
we
did
and
how
we
addressed
people
that
were
living
outside.
You
know
sometimes
in
public
spaces,
and
it
was
through
that
exposure
that
I
started
becoming
involved
with.
B
You
know
the
resources
available
and
then
that
grew
into
into
a
position
that
I
took
in
the
Department
of
Public
Safety,
where
I
was
managing
an
app
called
bigburg.com,
and
it's
still
up
so
you
can.
You
can
visit
it
today.
It's
a
web
app
and
that's
Berg
like
the
city,
not
the
Sesame,
Street
character
and
it's
free
good
services.
So
anything
that
was
low
to
no
barrier
and
free
to
use
would
go
on
this
app
and
I
did
all
the
data
management,
Outreach
and
training
around
that
that
platform.
B
A
B
I
went
to
pli
and
became
the
government
and
Community
Affairs
liaison
and
spent
a
couple
of
years
there.
You
know
and
again
just
really
I
think
the
what
I've
always
gravitated
towards
and
my
work
at
the
city
is.
You
know:
I'm
I'm
I'm,
talking
to
Residents
I'm,
trying
to
help
them
navigate.
City
systems
and
I've
always
really
been
drawn
to
systems
that
are
complex
and
but
are
really
impactful
on.
Our
residents
lives
right.
B
Most
people
at
some
point
in
your
life,
you'll
have
to
pull
a
building
permit
or
maybe
you'll
have
to
deal
with
a
citation
or
you
need
pli
to
to
take
care
of
a
public
safety
hazard
on
your
street.
You
know
it's
a
super
core
service
and
I
was
I,
was
so
interested
to
get
to
go
and
work
there
and
really
learn
about
how
those
systems
work
and
I
got
to
be
a
part
of
the
rollout
of
online
permitting
which
I
think
we
all.
B
B
B
It
was
an
exciting
opportunity
to
help
a
local
leader,
build
his
new
office,
make
sure
that
he
was
really
setting
up
his
constituent
services
for
success
and
getting
an
in-depth
understanding
and
knowledge
of
how
these
departments
worked,
so
that
he
could
be
an
effective
leader
in
in
instigating
change,
and
so
that
was
the
that
was
my
most
recent
position
before
the
one
I
started,
and
it
was,
you
know
it
was
wonderful.
It
was.
It
was
a
great
opportunity
to
serve
the
residents
of
the
north
side,
and
you
know.
A
B
Know
and
become
re-equated
again
with
with,
like
the
ins
and
outs
of
how
Council
legislation
works,
because
it's
been
a
part
of
what
I've
done
for
many
years,
but
it
was.
It
was
great
to
be
a
little
more
up,
close
and
personal
and
have
more
built-in
time
to
watch
the
council
meetings.
You
know
understand
the
progress
of
legislation.
B
You
know
the
funny
thing
about
that
job
is,
it
is
as
a
when
I
was
a
city
employee.
You
know
just
working
something
out
in
on
something
outside
of
council.
It
feels
like
it
feels
like
legislation
moves
so
slow
right,
like
oh,
it's
like
weeks
or
months,
but
really
you
pass.
Most
legislation
is
introduced,
discussed
and
passed
in
three
weeks.
A
B
A
A
B
You
know
and
I
so
I
think
the
vision
for
that
that
that
office
was
that
it
was
you
know,
and
we
did-
and
we
did
do
this
right.
So
this
it
was
It
was
supposed
to
serve
all
departments
in
the
city.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
comms
a
little
bit
of
constituent
Services,
you
know
and
we've,
and
we
very
much
did
act
as
a
bridge.
B
You
know
between
departments
or
between
departments
and
residents,
but
I
think
what
we
found
practically
is
that
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
that
ended
up
on
our
desks
needed
the
attention
of
the
mayor's
office
to
get
resolved,
and
so
that
kind
of
pulled
us
towards
the
mayor's
office
a
bit
more.
But
we
were.
We
were
technically
City,
Planning
employees
and
we
got
to
work
with
them
as
well.
B
A
B
A
B
So
the
land
bank
is
an
entity
that
was
created
to
help
address,
making
an
abandoned
property
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
right.
It's
there
to
perform
land
recycling
right.
So
how
does
a
property
that
is
taken
and
Abandoned
and
tax
delinquent
go
from
that
to
an
affordable
occupied
home?
Okay
right
and
the
land
bank
is?
Is
that
tool
to
get
that
that
house
to
that
point
or
a
vacant
lot
right
turned
into
a
new
construction
home,
so
there's
land
Banks
all
over
the
state
of
Pennsylvania
all
over
the
U.S?
B
It
was
created
by
state
legislation
and
then
there's
a
local
enabling
legislation
that
created
our
Pittsburgh
Land
Bank,
and
so
we
are
currently
an
affiliate
of
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority.
So
just
like
Phillies
Land
Bank
also
is
an
affiliate
of
their
Redevelopment
Authority
and
I
like
to
think
of
the
land
bank.
As
you
know,
so
we
have
land
recycling
systems
right.
We're
the
land
bank
isn't
necessarily
doing
anything
new.
It's
just
an
additional
tool
and
a
compliment
to
the
work
that
the
city
and
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority
already
does
right
right.
B
The
city
takes
property
through
Treasure
sale
clears
the
title,
sells
it
to
a
Community
Development
Corporation,
a
local
owner
occupant,
someone
that
that
wants
to
rehab
the
home,
so
that
work
is
already
happening
at
the
city
and
the
city
sends
property
to
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority
and
they're.
Doing
that
work
too
right,
they're,
assembling
property
to
do
larger
development
deals
and
the
land
bank
just
offers
this
third
third
tool.
B
Third
necessary
tool
to
help
smaller
projects
or
individuals
that
would
simply
like
to
buy
one
home,
have
a
more
condensed
and
easier
to
use
process
to
purchase
that
property.
So
you
can
kind
of
think
of
it,
as
you
know,
adding
a
little
more
grease
to
the
gears,
a
little
more
fuel
to
the
to
engine
to
really
just
keep
things
chugging
along,
because
we
certainly
have
no
shortage
of
property
that
that
could
be
repurposed.
A
B
If
that
structure
wasn't
in
poor
enough
condition
that
it
was
jumping
to
the
top
of
the
demolition
list,
there
wasn't
a
there's
there
and
and
right
now
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
that
we
can
do
for
those
in
between
properties
where
we
don't
have
an
owner
to
hold
accountable,
perhaps
they've
passed
away.
You
know
the
owner
is.
A
B
Llc
based
in
another
state,
so
there's
no
local
owner
to
hold
accountable.
It's
not
important
enough
condition
to
tear
down
you
know
what
is
the
pathway
for
those
properties,
and
so
you
know
right
now:
pli
performs
you
know
they
go
through
their
citation
process.
Perhaps
they'll
condemn
the
property,
you
know
they
get
their
work
done
and
now,
what's
that
next
step,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we've
got
a
resource
and
a
service
for
residents
that
don't
want
to
live
next
to
that
vacant
abandoned
property
anymore?
B
I
would
talk
to
and-
and
was
you
know
you
know
years
before,
I
ever
even
you
know,
thought
to
to
come
and
work
for
the
land
bank
was
saw
it
as
here's
another
very
necessary
tool
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
address
this
problem
right.
It's
as
essential
as
picking
up
the
garbage
and
providing
clean
water
to
Residents,
and
so
Council
Wilson
was
on.
The
you
know,
was
appointed
to
the
board.
B
So
I
got
to
work
more
closely
with
the
staff
at
the
land
bank
and
the
urban
Redevelopment
Authority
and
continue
to
learn
about
it
and
what
I
saw
was
you
know
this?
It's
it's
absolutely
feasible
and
possible
to
get
this
thing
online
and
start
providing
this
really
essential
service
to
our
non-profit,
cdc's
and
local
residents.
B
B
B
Most
of
that
work
is,
is,
is
done
you
know,
and
and
but
getting
to
to
build
something
and
manage
it
and
create
a
system
that
is
Equitable
and
transparent,
predictable
and
serving
residents
in
a
way
that
we
is
just
a
little
difficult
for
our
systems
right
now,
I
I
will
I'm
going
to
be
here
for
a
while
David
there's,
there's
no
shortage
of
work
to
be
done,
and
I
am
just
you
know.
Despite
the
challenges
of
the
role
I,
it's
absolutely
a
dream.
B
A
So
you
and
I've
known
each
other
a
while,
and
we
work
together
on
a
number
of
projects
over
the
years
and
I'm
not
trying
to
embarrass
you
or
make
you
blush
or
anything,
but
listening
to
talk
about
not
only
the
roles
you've
had,
but
the
current
role
you're
in
now.
You
were
really
dedicated
you.
You
are
really
passionate
and
dedicated
about
not
just
the
land
bank
but
Council
the
mayor's
office,
pli
City,
Planning,
Public
Safety.
A
A
B
A
B
B
You
know
that's
where
you
you
find
these
systems,
where
people
that
have
the
time
to
call
and
call
and
call
and
make
connections
with
leadership
to
push
to
get
their
particular
problem
solved
right.
That's
where
the
inequity
comes
in
and
the
more
that
you
standardize
your
systems,
the
more
that
you're
truly
serving
everyone
and
you're
insulating
yourself
from
a
system
that
that
only
serves
people
with
the
resources
to
access
it.
How.
B
I
would
count-
and
you
know
Wendy
urbanic
is
absolutely
my
Municipal
hero.
You
know
Wendy
I,
you
know
Wendy's
been
here
my
entire
career,
you
know,
she's
been
there
at
the
helm
and
just
does
this
excellent
job
and
is
such
a
great
role
model
and
I
and
I
have
felt
like
in
many
of
my
jobs.
I
feel
like
an
extension
of
3-1-1
and
I.
B
Can't
tell
you
at
how
many
meetings
I've,
because
you
know
I,
think
people
get
a
perception
that
301
311
doesn't
work
because
they've
called
3-1-1
has
done
their
job
and
done
it
well,
and
it's
that
it's
that
end
system
that
it's
not
plugged
into
301
correctly
or
you
know
again
way
more
need
and
not
enough
resources,
and
just
you
know
we
have
a
breakthrough
on
one
system,
it
it's
you
know
and,
and
it's
doing
exactly
what
I
was
talking
about
about
you
know.
Breathing
Equity
into
a
system
is
you've,
got
a
transparent
system.
B
A
B
B
You
know
there's
so
much
incredible
work
that
happens
out
of
the
Ura
and
you
know,
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
301
like
even
though
I've
never
technically
worked.
There
I
was
still
an
advocate
and
an
educator
of
what
the
Ura
was
and
and
does,
and
so
it
felt
like
a
very
seamless
transition
to
to
get
to
kind
of
come
and
be
on
the
inside
and
really
see
the
system
holistically.
B
You
know,
instead
of
just
having
the
the
one
page
or
pamphlets
on
where
what
the
systems
are
and
where
the
front
door
is
it's
really
getting
to
see
how
all
that
worked.
So
yeah,
it's
you
know,
it's
great
I
mean
I,
can't
stress
enough
how
you
know-
and
this
is
every
Municipal
system
right.
The
land
bank
is
is
a
complicated
thing.
There's
a
lot
of
Regulation
and
you
know,
and
systems,
to
get
that
you
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
them
all
talk
to
each
other
and
there's
data
to
manage.
B
You
know
it
is
complicated
and
it
was
nothing
surprising
because
if
there's
been
a
theme
in
every
position
I've
ever
had
at
the
city,
it
is
that
this
there
nothing
is
ever
simple,
but
everything
is
always
more
complicated
than
you
could
ever
dream
and
you've.
You
know
so
it's
everything
is
always
more
complicated
and
there's
always
really
great,
dedicated,
hard-working
people
working
on
that
complicated
issue
and
doing
the
very
best
they
can
to
make
it
work.
A
B
Oh,
my
gosh,
yes,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
think
I
could
do
this
job
if
I
did
not
have
these
years
of
experience,
and
you
know,
connections
with
previous
co-workers
and
friends
in
in
these
various
departments.
That's
a
huge
part
of
this
right
because
there's
always
an
element
of
trust
in
building
and
executing
a
new
system
and
understanding
of
the
intricacy
of
how
that
system
is
going
to
plug
into
what
exists
already
and
I
and
I.
B
Think
of
I've
spent
a
lot
of
years,
trying
to
help
residents
purchase
property
from
the
city
and
then
especially
my
work
at
pli
around
how
we
currently
handle
vacant
property
condemned
property.
You
know
the
those
like
I
can
see
in
my
mind
exactly
how
those
plug-in
to
the
land
bank
and
how
the
land
bank
is
a
very
natural
next
step
to
a
lot
of
those
processes
and
yeah
I.
Don't
absolutely
essential
this.
B
The
the
work
that
I've
done
before
at
the
city
in
the
context
and
the
support
that
I
have
and
I
and
I
like
and
you
know
going
back
to
you-
know
I
love
to
be
a
helper
and
I
love
to
feel
useful
and
I
have
been
able
to.
You
know
just
have
that
Baseline
knowledge
and
of
the
having
that
Baseline
knowledge
of
the
city
has
been
helpful
to
some
of
my
co-workers
at
the
Ura
too
perfect.
B
A
B
City
Forester,
who
gets
to
work
with
trees
all
day,
long
and
I.
You
know
Lisa
is
you
know
just
she's
such
a
dedicated
public
servant
and
you
know,
is
so
passionate
about
her
work
and
has
made
me
love
trees.
You
know,
as
so
I
think
her
and
and
she
gets
to
go
all
over
the
city
and
do
all
this
great
advocacy
work.
So
I
would
put
lease
on
this
list.
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
I
have
no,
do
you
not
know
who
that
is,
I
have
no
idea,
maybe
if
I
saw
them
well
and
you
know
and
Dave
what
I
like
to
think
is
that
so
I
am
the
oldest
of
four,
and
my
younger
brother
is
nine
years
younger
than
me,
which
meant
that
when
I
was
growing
up,
I
spent
many
additional
years
watching
shows
that
were
age-appropriate.
For
my
youngest
brother.
A
B
A
A
A
B
Okay,
let's
see
here,
okay,
I'll,
say
I'll
I'll,
stick
with
we'll
we'll
keep
our
local
government
theme
going
here
and
I'll
say
David
Lawrence
sure
would
love
to
hear
about.
He
was,
he
was
I
do
believe
when
he
was
the
mayor
of
Pittsburgh
was
was
responsible
for
lobbying
the
state
to
create
the
urban
Redevelopment.
B
I
would
I
would
love
to
hear
all
about
his
thoughts
and
approach.
You
know,
many
of
which
I
think
we
feel
were
pretty
off
base
all
these
years
later,
but
I
would
be
very
curious
to
to
hear
you
know
how
he,
how
he
thought
about
city
government-
okay,
let's
see
here,
okay,
so
we'll
do
David,
Lawrence
Lady
Gaga,
oh
man,
all
right!
Let
me
think
about
this.
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
B
A
So
if
people
are
watching
this
and
are
hearing
about
the
land
bank
for
the
first
time
and
they're
thinking
well,
that's
that's
something.
I
totally
need
to
be
a
part
of,
or
want
more
information.
How
do
they
get
more
information?
Who
do
they
contact?
Do
they
contact?
You
directly
tell
us
all
the
things
we
need
to
know
to
get
more
information
about
the
land
bank.
B
The
board
meetings
for
the
Pittsburgh
Land
Bank
are
the
second
Friday
of
every
month
at
1
pm
right
now
they
are
virtual
and
we
hope
to
get
back
to
some
in-person
meeting
soon
and
we've
got
public
comment
before
and
after
the
meeting
you
can
register
on
our
website.
You
can
also
just
show
up,
and
we
would
love
to
hear
from
you
but
I
think
going
back
and
and
watching
those
videos
on
YouTube
is
a
great
way
to
kind
of
get
up
to
speed
on
what
we've
been
up
to
in
the
last
six
months.