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From YouTube: Meet The People: Public Access Television
Description
On this episode of Meet The People, public access television is the topic of conversation as representatives from PCTV, BPTV, and MCA-TV explain their importance to local communities and why they do what they do.
A
Hello,
everyone
welcome
to
another
edition
of
meet
the
people.
My
name
is
david
feiner,
I'm
the
communication
technology
manager
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh's,
department
of
innovation
and
performance.
Today
we're
going
to
do
a
little
something
a
little
different
instead
of
interviewing
city
employees
about
technology.
A
A
I,
my
middle
school,
had
a
studio
in
what
was
called
the
little
theater,
a
little
control
room
off
to
the
side
and
from
that
point
forward
I
fell
in
love
with
it,
and
I've
been
working
in
it
for
a
pretty
long
time,
and
I
believe
he'll
probably
tell
me
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
my
guest
today
has
been
working
in
public
access
television
almost
or
longer
than
I
have
dave.
Cable.
Welcome
to
the
show.
A
B
A
Time
ago
wow
did
you
start
volunteering
at
bethel
park.
B
Yes,
I
did,
I
was
looking
for
something
to
do
outside
of
I
just
had
finished
up
college.
I
had
a
film
degree
from
the
university
of
pittsburgh
and
I
was
looking
for
something
to
do
and
a
friend
of
mine
who
owned
a
little
video
store
was
like
hey.
I
make
this
crazy
tv
show
called
incredibly
strange,
video
or
no.
The
show
is
called
the
schlock
shop
in
the
stores.
Incredibly
strange
video
and
he's
like
this
place.
They
there's
a
nice
guy
out
there
that
kevin
who
runs
it.
B
B
No,
no,
I
volunteered!
For
a
year
the
director
previous
director,
he
had
gotten
into
usc
grad
school
for
film
and
he
recommended
me
for
take
over
when
he
left
a
year
later
so
january
january,
10th
they're
about
1999.
I
took
over
as
director.
B
On
the
air,
I'm
not
sure
it
was
established
in
1987
and
I
think
it's
probably
88
or
89
by
the
time
they
were
getting
things
on
the
air.
B
That
is
absolutely
correct.
It
really
has
become
it's
such
a
fantastic
fit.
I
mean
I
love
production,
I
love
being
independent
about
it.
I
like
doing
on
a
small
budget
level,
so
you're
not
running
around
like
answering
a
bunch
of
people
about
money,
and
I
like
having
it
as
a
pretty
pretty
fixed
hours.
I
mean
we
do
have
off
hours,
but
my
office
out
of
8
to
4
30..
B
I
have
to
live
in
bethel
park
to
work
for
bethlehem,
because
it's
a
municipal
job,
so
I
work
8
to
4,
30,
4
31,
I'm
five
minutes
from
home.
It's
it's
fantastic!
To
have
no
commute!
I
mean
really.
I
mean
the
second
I'm
done
working.
My
time
is
my
own
and
if
anything
needs
done
back
at
work,
it's
a
couple
minutes
to
come
back
to
work.
It's
not!
It's
not
an
issue,
it's
great
to
have
that
work.
Life
balance
like
to
that
degree.
A
That's
great,
it's
always
nice
to
talk
to
people
who
are
really
passionate
not
only
about
their
work
but
like
their
job.
A
B
I
had
absolutely
zero
knowledge
of
how
it
really
worked.
Like
I
said
a
friend
of
mine,
he
was
just
like.
I
may
make
this
crazy
little
tv
show
they
always
need
help.
They
need
volunteers.
Why
don't
you
go
check
that
out?
If
you're
looking
for
experience,
I
did
and
yeah
the
old
director.
He
really
showed
me
the
rook
she's,
a
mentor
of
mine,
and
I
really
learned
a
lot
there
and
then
also,
I
learned
a
ton
once
I
became
the
director
because,
as
a
volunteer,
I
was
doing
the
production
work.
B
I
was
helping
out
on
cameras
helping
out
editing
stuff.
I
direct
some
things,
but
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
operating
a
tv
station.
I
knew
nothing
about.
I
had
a
like.
I
said
I
had
a
film
degree
back
background,
not
a
lot
of
guilty
splicing
involved
in
making
public
access
tv
shows
so
yeah.
I
was
doing
a
lot
of
on-the-job
learning
the
first
couple
years.
B
Oh,
it
was,
it
was
cumbersome
and
in
our
station
specifically,
we
had
one
and
a
half
operating
cameras.
We
were
using.
Yes,
one
of
the
chips
was
going
bad,
so
everything
had
a
green
pin
on
the
one
camera
we
were
using.
Three
quarter
inch
tape
for
all
of
our
productions,
so
that
involved
those
you
know
arm
packs
that
had
the
20
minute
tapes
that
the
whole
thing
was
about
10
pounds
just
for
the
record
deck
and
that's
you
know
remote
taping
yeah,
the
cameras
were
big
and
bulky.
B
I
mean
everything
was
heavy,
nothing
looked
as
nice
as
it
does.
Today.
Everything
was
much
harder
than
it
is
today.
Tape
to
tape,
editing
was
a
nightmare,
could
give
you
horror
stories
and
breaking
control
tracks
and
only
learning
about
it,
three
quarters
of
the
way
through
a
program
and
being
like.
Oh,
I
can't
wait
to
re-edit
this
show.
I
just
spent
two
hours
editing.
A
What
were
you
using
for
playback?
What
how
were
you
playing
back
shows
on
the
channel.
B
When
I
first
got
here,
it
was
vhs
tape.
I
believe.
A
A
I
believe
when
I
got
my
first
tv
job,
it
was
not
in
the
town
I
grew
up
in
so
I
didn't
have
my
mother
calling
me
every
30
minutes
the
channels
blew
when
I
got
my
first
full-time
tv
job.
That
happened
because
she
would
watch
the
channel
incessantly
waiting
for
her
child
to
show
up.
That
was
a
lot
of
fun.
B
Well,
that
is
nice.
I
actually
had
a
resident
who
called
himself
accuracy
in
the
media,
and
he
would
call
me
up
if
there's
anything
going
wrong
on
the
station.
If
there's
anything
spelled
wrong
on
the
bulletin
board,
so
I
mean
at
our
level
it
is
nice
to
have
someone
watching
your
back
like
that,
a
little
bit,
because
I
mean
there
really
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
you
know,
checks
and
balances
involved,
so
yeah,
I
I
can
say
I
liked
having
someone
every
once
I'll
come
in
and
say:
hey
fix
that.
A
At
what
point
in
your
tenure,
did
you
decide
you
need
to
change
the
technology?
You
need
to
upgrade
the
technology.
B
I've
been
doing
that
progressively
throughout
the
time
I've
been
here,
I
mean
from
switching
from
analog
to
digital.
I
I
couldn't
give
you
the
exact
year
dave
it
was.
It
was
a
while
ago.
Probably
I
want
to
say
12
years
ago,
does
that
sound
about
right.
B
Right
but
I
mean
like
yeah,
I
mean
we
went
from
like
three
different
tape
formats,
though,
like
going
from
you
know,
vhs
or
svhs
tapes
to
to
dv
tapes
and
then
solid
state
recording
yep,
but
it's
been
a
long
progression.
I
mean
that's
one
thing
about
this
job.
Is
it
there's
a
lot
of
continual
on
the
job
learning?
Because
you
have
to
keep
up
with
technology
to
keep
your
station
running
properly
right.
A
B
Oh
geez,
I'm
gonna
have
to
look.
It
was
ultra
nexus,
oh
yeah
and
let
me
see
so.
B
But
for
us
electronics,
they
had
switched
their
hardware,
so
basically
what
we
were
able
to
do
with
one
device.
We
had
to
buy
two
devices
and
they
didn't
fluctuate
in
price
any.
So
it
was
kind
of
a
no-brainer
to
switch
to
cable
casts
because
we
could
keep
it
the
price
point
we
wanted
to
and
still
have
the
opportunity
to
run
two
stations
off
of
one.
A
Right
so
funny
story
about
tightrope.
The
I
believe
they're
they're,
minnesota
right,
I
think
they're
in
minnesota,
when
I
was
managing
a
station
on
cape
cod.
The
eastern
tip
of
massachusetts-
I
was
my
station-
was
the
first
of
three
stations
to
be
a
customer
of
theirs,
and
so
we
were.
We
were
a
guinea
pig
and
we
were
making
a
lot
of
mistakes
because
we
didn't
know
what
we
were
doing
anytime.
I
called
minnesota.
A
A
A
So,
just
like
me,
you're,
a
municipal,
employee
working.
Is
it
a
township
bethel
park,
municipality,
municipality,
okay,
so
you're
a
municipal
employee?
What
are
some
challenges?
You've
faced
over
the
years
being
in
charge
of
the
channel.
B
Well,
I
mean
like,
like
I
said,
upgrading
technology
and
keeping
up
with.
That
is
probably
the
main
continual
challenge
I
mean
other
than
that
we
haven't
really
had
a
ton
in
terms
of
dealing
with
complaints
about
content
or
anything
like
that
and
as
a
public
access
station.
That's
not
really
something
we
want
to
get
into
anyway.
B
A
B
We
can't
do
them
at
the
same
time
we
schedule
around
each
other.
We
only
do
the
municipal
council
meetings
and
the
school
board
meetings.
The
municipal
council
meetings
do
happen
in
the
same
building.
We
are
wired
from
our
office,
our
studio
up
into
council
chambers,
but
we
also
have
our
own
studio,
so
we
can't
do
something
at
the
same
time,
we're
both
running
into
the
same
switcher
around
for
that
and
the
school
board
that's
over
in
the
school
district's
building,
and
we
just
tape
that
and
re-broadcast.
So
we
don't
do
that.
One
live.
B
Really
depends,
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
it's
not
much
more
than
40..
I
mean.
To
be
honest,
I
mean
I'm
I'm
fortunate
that
I
have
volunteer
staff
members
that
help
me
out,
but
I'm
able
to
like
I
said
my
work-life
balance
is
very
balanced.
I
I
can't.
I
can't
complain
about
anything
like
that
in
that
regard,
and,
like
I
said,
if
anything
comes
up
or
there's
a
taping,
I
can't
get
someone
else's
tape.
It's
not
far
from
my
house.
I
mean
the
worst
I
get.
B
A
So
let's
talk
for
a
couple
minutes
about
the
greater
pittsburgh
community
media
awards.
How
did
you
first
find
out
about
it
and
what
was
the
reason
you
decided
to
jump
on
board.
B
I
believe
john
patterson
approached
us
all
about
it
at
first
and
I
just
thought
it
was
a
great
idea
right
from
the
gecko,
so
I
was
on
board
immediately.
I
didn't
know
what
to
really
make
out
of
it,
because
the
first
year
I
mean
we
kind
of
showed
up
to
the
awards,
not
knowing
what
to
expect
other
than
the
fact
that
we
were
going
to
recognize
a
couple
of
our
volunteers.
I
I
had
no
idea
what
the
experience
would
be
like
like
what
the
venue
was,
or
anything
like
that.
B
A
I
was
always
taught
a
a
happy
production
staff
is
a
fed
production
staff
so
that
that
was
just
a
no-brainer
for
me
once
I
saw
the
food
sure
I
guess
that
shows
where
our
I,
I
guess
that
shows
where
our
priorities
lied.
At
the
same
time,.
B
A
So
as
the
award
ceremony
has
evolved
now
in
its
fifth
year,
do
you
see
this
is
something
that
is
going
to
continue.
B
Well,
absolutely,
and
I
mean
there's
obviously
we're
showing
signs
we're
going
to
expand
it,
so
I'm
excited
to
see
how
that
shapes
up
going
forward,
but
yeah
I
mean
it's
a
great
thing
on
our
on
our
end,
it's
nice
to
have
a
way
to
recognize
our
producers
in
a
competitive
setting.
Like
I
mean
I,
I
have
a
awards
banquet
every
year
where
we
do
it
internally.
B
We
do
have
a
little
bit
of
that,
but
I
mean
it's
mostly
me.
I
do
have
a
few
volunteers
that
help
me
pick
between
shows.
We
do
a
program
of
the
month
thing
where
we
give
out
12
awards
at
the
end
of
the
year,
along
with
some
other
awards,
but
it's
nice
to
have
have
us
compared
against
other
content
being
makes.
I
mean,
I
think,
for
the
producers,
it's
nice
to
see
that
they
are
achieving
at
the
level
of
production
that
they're
doing
that
people
are
recognizing
it
as
quality
products.
B
A
A
But
I'm
surprised
every
year
by
the
technical
aptitude,
the
editing,
the
con,
the
actual
content
of
the
shows
I
I
really
enjoy
the
judging
part
of
it,
because
I
love
seeing
what
volunteer
producers,
because
this
is
their
hobby
and
I
like
seeing
year
to
year
you've
had
a
couple
of
repeat
winners
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
I
like
seeing
how
they
have
evolved
their
programming
as
well.
B
Oh
yeah,
it
it
is
neat
to
see,
and
it
is
neat
to
see
what
other
people
are
doing
too,
and
it
helps
inform
me
in
terms
of
like
where
we
stand
compared
to
our
peers.
I
just
I
I
just
like
the
whole
collaborative
aspect
of
it
too.
It's
nice
to
have
everyone
in
contact
in
the
regional
area,
and
this
is
a
great
event
to
connect
everybody
together.
A
I
agree
dave
I'm
going
to
ask
you
some
some
completely
random
non-work
questions.
You
ready
all
right,
you're,
originally
from
pittsburgh,
right,
correct!
Okay,
on
your
sandwiches,
do
you
want
fries
or
no
fries.
B
No
fries
what
if
I
want
fries
they're
on
the
side
and
no
cole
claw,
absolutely
no
coleslaw
on
my
sandwiches,
wow.
B
B
I
don't
binge
watch
me
and
my
wife.
We
once
we
put
the
kids
to
bed
every
night.
We
spend
about
nine
to
eleven
every
night
watching
something
together
and
I
mean
we
cycle
through
different
content.
We
try
to
mix
it
up
for
ourselves,
that's
not
repetitive!
Every
night,
so
I
mean
right
now
we're
watching
why
the
last
man
only
murders
in
the
building.
B
A
Okay,
what's
your
favorite
view
of
the
city,
don't
say
west
end
overlook.
B
A
That's
fair
dave,
cable!
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
on
meet
the
people
always
enjoy
talking
to
you
always
look
forward
to
the
awards
ceremony
every
year.
Oh,
where
is
bptv
located
just
to
give
you
a
little
plug
in
there.
B
All
right
well
we're
located
the
parks
municipal
building,
which
is
5100
west
library
avenue.
Anybody
familiar
with
the
area
will
know
it
as
the
library
and
police
station
and
we
are
in
the
bottom
floor,
there's
an
entrance
on
the
front
of
the
building
right
next
to
the
police
entrance.
So
if
you
want
to
make
a
tv
show
anyone's
welcome
to
stop
on
by
and
give
it
a
try,
awesome.
A
Welcome
back
to
this
edition
of
meet
the
people
again,
my
name
is
david
finer,
I'm
the
communication
technology
manager
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
department
of
innovation
performance,
I'm
being
joined
now
by
a
man
who
refused
to
hire
me.
His
name
is
john
patterson
he's
the
executive
director
at
pittsburgh.
Community
television,
john
welcome
to
the
program.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
C
A
Great
to
be
here
well
before
we
get,
because
I
absolutely
want
to
get
to
that,
so
you've
been
working
in
public
access
television
for
quite
some
time.
Can
you
give
me
a
rundown
of
your
career
and
where
you've
been
and
where
you've
come
from
and
how
you
got
to
pittsburgh.
C
Absolutely
well,
I
I
actually
began
in
high
school
when
I
was
in
my
junior
year.
This
was
outside
of
philadelphia.
They
put
a
public
access
station
into
a
classroom
at
the
corner
of
the
building
and
it
was
more
like
an
educational
access.
I
should
say,
but
but
that's
where
I,
where
I
got
really
into
it,
it
was.
It
was
one
of
those
things
that
really
changes
your
life,
because
I
had
been
interested
in
filmmaking
and
then
yeah.
C
C
I
went
to
northwestern
university
got
a
degree
in
radio
tv
film
and
then,
interestingly
enough,
then
I
didn't
do
anything
in
tv,
for
you
know
a
number
of
years
when
I
got
interested
in
theater
and
I
managed
the
theater
by
that
time
I
was
in
california
and
but
then
you
know
I
I
was
kind
of
done
with
the
theater
and
a
job
opened
up
at
the
local
public
access
station
in
santa
cruz.
C
California,
where
I
was
living
and
I
thought
well,
this
is
interesting
and
I
have
a
background
in
that
I'm
a
little
rusty
and-
and
so
I
got
a
job
there
as
a
director
of
operations
and
then
soon
after
that,
the
executive
director
left-
and
that
was
back.
I
started
there
in
2005,
so
that
gives
me
you
know,
16
years
next
month
and
getting
to
pittsburgh
was
sort
of
a
gradual.
Well,
not
that
gradual.
C
C
I
didn't
venture
out,
but
when
I
was
looking
for
places
to
move,
I
heard
about
how
cool
pittsburgh
was
and
and
this
job
at
pctv
opened
up
and
so
in
2009
I
you
know
apply
for
the
job
came
for
the
interview
and
I
guess
you
use
a
cliche.
The
rest
is
history.
Now
I've
been
here
for
12
years
and
they
can't
get
rid
of
me.
A
So
talk
about
your
early
impressions
in
early
days
of
working
at
pctv.
What
was
it
like?
What
was
it
like
as
an
organization?
What
kind
of
membership
base
did
it
have
in
your
first
impressions
of
working
there.
C
Well,
my
very
first
impression
actually
happened
before
I
started.
Working
here
is
that
was
that
was
when
I
came
for
the
interview
and
they
they
let
me
walk
around,
and
I
thought
this
facility
really
needs
some
help
because
it
was
not
not
in
great
shape.
It
was
sort
of
you
know,
you
know,
sagging,
you
know
ceilings
and
you
know
really
sort
of
funky.
I
mean
it
was
functional,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
problems
like
like
hvac,
etc.
C
I
think
it
still
had
a
pretty
good
user
base.
You
know
it's
remained
consistent
throughout
the
years,
but
the
equipment
was,
you
know
not
in
great
shape,
and
it
was
you
know
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that
we
just
couldn't
do,
because
we
didn't
have
the
you
know:
the
equipment
and
the
resources,
and
so
over
a
period
of
years.
C
You
know
the
biggest
thing
that's
changed
is
that
we've
we
focused
on
those
things
improving
the
equipment
improving
the
facility,
so
we
did
a
whole
renovation
in
in
2015
and
completely
renovated
it
and
we've
got.
You
know
two
tv
studios
now
a
classroom
and
you
know
edit
lab,
whereas
before
all
those
things
were
sort
of
you
know,
rinky
dink,
you
know
shoved
in
a
corner.
You
had
no
heating.
In
the
you
know
winter
he
had
to
use
space
heaters
now
everything
works
and
it's
we.
C
We
have
spaces,
we
can
have
events
here,
we
can
have
you
know,
classes.
We
should
basically
have
to
have
our
classes.
You
know
in
somebody's
office
or
you
know,
we'd
have
to
move.
You
know
editing
computers
across
the
the
building
into
our
conference
room.
So
you
know
people
could
be
comfortable,
but
you
need
to
have
a
good.
You
know
environment,
a
good
space
and
I
think
that
that's
that's
probably
been
the
biggest
change
and
then-
and
then
you
know
what
we're
doing
now
is
we're.
You
know
we're
doubling
down
on
media
education.
C
We
things
kind
of
fell
off
during
the
pandemic,
but
we're
we've
started
classes
up.
You
know
and
we're
focusing
on
that.
You
know
desire
to
be
a
you
know:
community
media
and
education
center.
So
we
think
of
ourselves
as
a
community
media
center
and
who
knows
there
may
be,
you
know,
name
change
in
our
future,
not
that
we
don't
like
television
anymore.
We
love
television,
but
we
want
to.
We
want
to
broaden
it,
and
you
know
offer
a
lot
of
different
to
me.
C
A
C
C
We've
changed
the
entrance
and
it's
really
was
about
the
rest
of
the
building
and,
as
you
know,
I
mean
what
what
you
need
in
a
control
room
is
is
is
quite
different
than
what
you
used
to
need
and
I
would
say
our
control
rooms
now
are,
you
know,
like
maybe
a
quarter
of
the
size
of
what
we
had
before
and
it's
you
know,
and
surprisingly,
though,
we
still
have
some
equipment
that
we
had
when
I
got
here.
That
is
still.
That
is
still
useful.
C
I
mean
it's
absolutely
ancient,
but
it
still
works,
and
so
we
use
it.
It's
not
like,
you
know,
key
equipment,
I
mean
we
could
probably
get
by
without
it,
but
you
know
and
it
I
wanted
to
follow
up
because
you
talked,
I
don't
know
if
you
were
talking
about
my
impressions
of
pittsburgh
and
you
know
how
that's
changed,
but
I
always
I
had
a
positive
impression
from
pittsburgh.
You
know
from
the
get-go
and
see
starting
when
you
know
I
came
for
the
job
interview
and
the
cab
driver.
A
So,
just
to
piggyback
off
of
that,
my
my
first
visit
to
pittsburgh
was
in
2007.
I
was
visiting
my
then
girlfriend
now
wife's
parents
and
standing
outside
of
heinz
field.
I
had
a
red
sox
hat
on
and
a
dpw
truck
truck
drove
by
and
two
guys
leaned
out
the
window
and
screamed
welcome
to
pittsburgh.
A
Now,
where
I'm
from
they
don't
do
that,
they
would
have
screamed
something
totally
different,
so
I
had
the
same
first
impression
of
this
place
and
I'm
glad
to
have
moved
here.
A
A
She
was
here
for
an
interview
and
I
tagged
along
and
my
first
I
had
first
heard
of
pctv
years
before
I
believe
you
hosted
a
national,
an
alliance
for
community
media
national
conference,
and
I
couldn't
make
it
to
that,
and
I
was
really
upset
because
I
wanted
to
come.
A
So
when
I
came
later
what
I
it's
not
I've
worked
in
a
lot
of
places
in
a
lot
of
towns
and
what
I
liked
most
is
when
I
walked
in
somebody.
Was
there
and
smiling
and
it's
the
little
things
really
and
either
you
have
told
your
staff.
This
is
the
way
it's
gonna
be,
or
else.
C
A
They're,
just
you're
hiring
great
people
for
this
for
these
positions.
So
how
has
the
staff
evolved
over
your
12-plus
years?
There.
C
Yeah
we've
had
we
actually
have
a
good
base
of
of
staff,
gladys
jokes
who's.
Our
assistant
director
and
programming
director
she's
actually
worked
in
public
access
in
pittsburgh
for
40
years,
wow
35
of
those
with
pctv,
so
she's
sort
of,
like
the
you
know,
sort
of
the
bedrock
if
you
will
and
and
then
we've
had
a
number
of
people.
You
know,
of
course
people
do
do
leave
over
over
the
course
of
many
years.
So
we
we
have
our
administrative
manager
vetrina
vincent
she's.
C
She
was
here
when
I
got
here
and
she's
been
here
for
longer
than
I
have
a
little
bit
longer
and
then
the
rest
of
the
people
are
all
are
all
new.
I
say
new
meaning
you
know
they
weren't
here
when
I
got
here
and
I
think
that
to
me
to
work
at
pctv,
you
have
to
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
people.
You
have
to
have
sort
of
the
idea
that
you
know
we're
here
for
the
community.
It's
not
it's
not
about
us.
C
We're
here
to
you,
know,
facilitate
the
needs
of
the
community
and
usually
when
I
you
do
a
job
interview.
You
know
that
definitely
comes
up,
and
I
mean
this
is
not
like
working
at.
You
know
we're
not
a
network
affiliate,
we're
not
you
know
hulu
or
hbo.
This
is
about
not
having
an
ego,
and
you
know
assisting
the
community
on
what
they
want
to
do
and
making
people's
lives
better.
So
I
always
you
know.
I
always
tell
my
staff.
C
If
you
have
an
ego
and
think
wow,
I'm
in
media
and
I'm
you
know
this,
this
hot
shot,
whatever
yeah
you
are,
you
are
a
hot
shot,
but
you're
you're,
you're,
putting
it
in
service
of
you
know,
helping
the
community
and
making
people's
lives
better.
So
that
that's
what
really
drives
me,
and
I
think
I
I
try
to
pass
that
on
to
my
staff.
C
You
know
I
I
don't
think
I
would
be
cut
out,
for
you
know,
hbo
or
you
know
places
like
that.
I
mean
I
I
have
people
know
people
that
I
went
to
college
with
that.
You
know
work
for
big
entertainment.
You
know
companies
like
that,
and
you
know
it's
it's
just
not
where
my
my
head
is
at.
You
know
I
I
don't
know
if
I'm
too
artsy
farty
for
that
or
what
but,
but
I
I'm
good
on
the
community
level,
so
yeah.
C
Well,
I
took
one
look
at
you
and
I
thought,
oh
my
god,
no
well
the
timing.
It
timing
is
everything
because,
as
I
recall
it,
when
you
came
in,
you
were
looking
for
a
job
we
we
were
not
like.
We
were
getting
close
to
hiring,
but
we
hadn't
done
it
now.
I
don't
know
I
mean,
are
you
telling
me
you
applied
for
a
job
here?
No.
A
No,
no!
No!
So
what
happened
was
I
came
in
I
I
just
walked
in
but,
like
I
said,
my
wife
was
here
for
her
and
her
no,
no,
no
actually
yeah.
She
was
here
for
her
interview,
so
I
tagged
along
and
she
told
me
to
bring
a
suit
and
bring
a
resume
and
just
walk
in,
and
I
did
and
carl
is
the
one
who
answered
the
door
and
I
said
I'm
moving
to
pittsburgh
very
shortly.
Here's
my
resume.
A
He
gave
me
a
tour.
He
walked
me
around.
A
I
was
very
impressed
because
I
had
never
worked
in
a
city
before
I'd
only
ever
worked
in
small
towns,
but
things
work
out
the
way
they
did
less
than
a
year
later
I
was
working
for
the
city.
I
think
that
the
two
of
us
together
have
transformed
the
relationship
you
and
I
have
talked
about
this
many
times,
and
I
know
we
already
agree
with
this,
so
you
can
just
nod
your
head.
A
B
A
Was
in
middle
school
when
they
put
a
tv
station
in
and
I've
always
had
a
passion
for
public
access
and
the
it
being
the
last
bastion
of
free
speech
and
what
I,
when
I
taught
production
classes,
one
of
my
favorite
things
is
watching
a
student
or
a
community
member
or
a
non-profit
person.
A
Get
have
that
aha
moment
like
when
it
really
clicked
in
that
they
got
something.
I
I
still
enjoy
that,
and
so
it
was
important
to
me
to
make
sure
that
this
relationship
was
one
that
has
grown
as
it
has
we're
in
this
public
education,
government
access
television
group-
and
we
whatever
happened
before
us-
is
nothing
we
can
control.
So,
let's
control
going
forward
so
anyway,
now
you
can
talk
the
what
what
is
the
from
so
you
said:
you've
you've,
you
did
an
upgrade.
A
You
did
a
a
redesign
of
the
location.
You
built
a
you
built
new
office
space.
You
built
new
studios.
You
built
classrooms
from
a
technological
standpoint.
A
What
what
is
the
main
change
from
what
you
had
before
2015
and
what
you
have
now.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
good,
that's
a
good
question.
I
think
that
you
know
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
timeline
of
things
because
you
know
when
I
came
here,
we
were
still
using
tape.
It
was
digital
digital
tape,
but
but
I
think
you
know
moving
to
you
know
non.
You
know
non-tape
based
technology,
although
I
have
to
say
you
know
by
2015
we
were
I
mean
we
were.
C
We
were
already
already
done
with
that,
but
I
think
that
everything
is
so
computer-based
now,
as
you
know,
and
to
me
that's
the
biggest,
the
biggest
difference
you
know
we've.
We
we've
tried
to
make
improvements
and
we
we've
taken
little
baby
steps
here
and
there,
like
you
know
when
we,
when
we
first
started,
you
know
recording
file,
you
know
to
file,
we
would,
you
know,
carry
hard
drives
around
around
the
building.
Well,
we
don't
have
to
do
that
anymore.
We
can
send
things
right
from
our
studio.
C
C
If
you
will
is
you
know
television
and
video,
and
you
know
focusing
on
that
and
we've
we've
we've
dabbled
in
things
like
podcasting,
you
know
over
the
years
we've
had
a
class
year
class
there,
but
we're
now
making
a
major
push
into
offering
other
things
like
that,
and
we
actually
have
a
you
know
a
podcast
class
starting
soon
and
so
broadening
beyond
television,
I
think,
is
probably
you
know,
you
know
where
things
are
going
and
then
you
know
continuing
to
improve
the
technology.
C
I
I
often
one
of
the
difficult
things
about
doing
this
kind
of
work.
Is
you
know
because
it
is
non-profit
and
you
know,
but
budgets
can
be
limited
you're
often
faced
with
the
times
it
can
be
a
little
bit
embarrassing.
It's
it's
not
not
right
now,
but
you
know
when
I
got
here.
We
had
a
lot
of
equipment
that
didn't
work
and
it
was
yeah
we're
going
to
upgrade
that
I
promise
you.
I
promise
you
we're
going
to
get
rid
of
that.
You
know.
C
Ancient
you
know
mac
whatever
you
know
it
looks
like
it
was
like
a
spaceship
that
landed
on
the
desk,
but
you
know
we
we're
not
quite
there
yet,
and
you
know
over
time
we've
been
able
to
do
that.
So
you
know
I.
I
hope
that
we
can
continue
doing
that
because
it's
really
sort
of
without
those
resources.
You
really
can't
you
can't
do
you
can't
I
mean
we
can't
do
this
work
that
we
do
you
have
to
have.
As
you
know,
I
mean
it's.
C
A
A
Correctly,
he
couldn't
grasp
it,
he
just
couldn't
because
he
had
only
when
he
was
in
college.
The
only
thing
he
learned
was
a
digital
format,
whether
it
was
recording
directly
to
the
camera
as
a
hard
drive
or
having
an
external
hard
drive
connected
to
the
camera.
He
had
never
used
videotape
in
any
form.
It's
also
interesting.
You
say
that,
because
the
end
part,
you
were
saying
about
how
things
change
so
rapidly,
so
we
finished
ours
about
five
years
ago
and
I'm
just
now
starting
to
think
it's.
It
really
is
time.
A
I
don't
want
to
wait
another
32
years
before
we
do
another
technology
upgrade
one
of
the
things
the
pandemic
has
taught
us
is
that
our
control
room
specifically,
I
didn't
build
it
for
expansion.
I
built
it
for
that
day,
and
so
we
have.
We
have
extension
cords.
We
have
cables
and
everything
is
kind
of
a
mess
because
we're
having
to
include
zoom
in
everything.
A
I
I
think
what's
going
to
happen
because
of
the
pandemic.
Is
that
people
would
you
agree
with
me
when
I
say
people
are
going
to
be
a
little
more
independent,
because
they've
had
to
be
independent?
The
last
year
and
a
half
or
are
people
coming
back
to
the
studio
and
wanting
to
use
the
physical
space
and
the
physical
equipment.
C
C
Some
people
we've
been
able
to
you,
know,
assist
them,
and
I'm
sorry
gladys
isn't
on
here
today,
because
she
would
be
able
to
talk
about
the
she's
doing
a
couple
of
shows-
and
I
think
the
nice
thing
about
doing
those-
it's
not
necessarily
just
zoom
but
we'll
call
them.
You
know
shows
that
you
do
at
home,
you're
using
your
computer
and
a
webcam
you're
able
to
bring
people
in
from
other
places.
C
They
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
on
the
ground
in
pittsburgh,
and
so
that's
you
know
that
that's
definitely
a
plus
but
yeah.
I
think
things
have
changed
for
good.
C
In
a
way,
people
did
learn
some
of
the
technology,
but
I
think
that
in
a
way
in
a
way,
that's
good
because
it
I
mean
we're
all
about
empowering
people.
So
if
somebody
learns
something
that's
going
to
help
them
communicate,
you
know
more
power
to
them
and
we'll
we'll
take
their
programming
and
air.
It
but
we're
still
you
know,
since
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
the
you
know
pandemic
right
now.
There's
still
you
know,
we
don't
have
quite
as
many
people
coming
in,
but
it's
starting
to
pick
up
so
yeah.
A
All
right,
so
this
is
the
part
of
the
show,
john,
where
I
ask
completely
random
questions
that
have
nothing
to
do
with
your
job.
So
I'm
totally
surprising
you
with
this
stuff
and,
like
I,
I
believe
your
your
life
mantra
is,
if
you
don't
know
the
answer,
you'll
just
make
it
up.
So
all
right,
so
you
and
I
are
both
not
from
pittsburgh,
but
on
your
sandwiches.
Do
you
want
fries
or
no
fries.
C
A
Again,
john
you're,
not
helping
yourself
here,
the
mon
incline
or
the
ducane
incline,
which
is
your
favorite
incline.
C
C
A
Just
like
you,
as
the
parent
of
a
a
child,
I
know
that's
a
big
deal
not
having
to
walk
far
to
get
to
the
incline.
My
son
loves
to
ride
that
thing.
What
was
your
last
binge
watch?
A
A
All
right,
my
wife
and
I
were
watching
the
goldbergs
on
abc.
We
still
haven't
finished
it,
but
we're
close
and
I'm
not
really
a
binge
watcher.
I
don't
like
binge
watching
people
think
I'm
weird.
A
C
I,
like
you,
know
the
masks
that
are
that
are
that
are
branded
and
that
have
some
kind
of
a
you
know
thing
on
it.
I
have
to
say
I'm
freaked
out
by
the
ones
that
show
like
a
smiling
face.
That's
that's
just
really
really
disturbing.
To
me,
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
practical.
You
know
I
just
want
a
good
mass,
that's
going
to
stay
on
my
face
and
be
tight
and
so
yeah.
I
know
it's
probably
not
the
you
know
we'll
probably
like
a
boring,
boring
answer,
but.
A
A
Exactly
the
other
mask
I
like
is
the
mask
of
a
face
and
then
the
mask
on
the
mask
underneath
the
chin,
so
people
will
say,
sir,
you
need
to
put
your
mask
on
my
mask
is
on,
but
it
looks
like
the
so
it
looks
like
the
mask
is
under
the
chin
yeah
anyway,
all
right,
john.
Here's,
your
chance,
give
a
plug
for
pctv
where
you're
located.
A
What's
your
phone
number,
what's
your
website,
how
can
people
get
a
hold
of
you
if
they
are
interested
in
not
only
learning
pub
the
concepts
of
public
access,
television
but
podcasting
uploading
to
youtube
and
all
the
other
classes
that
you
have.
C
Sure
so
pctv
is
a
community
media
and
education
center,
we're
located
on
on
the
north
side
at
western
avenue,
1300
western
avenue.
Our
mission
is
to
empower,
educate
and
enhance
the
community
through
media,
and
you
can
do
a
lot
of
things
here.
You
can
make
a
tv
show.
You
can
make
a
podcast
you
can
you
can
make
a
movie
if
you
want
the
one
of
the
only
stipulations
is
that
you
know
we
get
to
air
whatever
you
produce.
So
that's
that
that's
an
important
consideration
and
we
are
non-commercial
media.
C
So
it's
we're
not
you're,
not
gonna.
You
know
hawk
products
on
pc
tv,
it's
all
non-commercial
community
oriented
and
you
can
take
classes
here.
We'll
teach
you
how
to
podcast,
we'll
teach
you
how
to
use
the
fuel
cameras
editing.
C
You
want
to
learn
things
like
360
degree,
video.
We
we're
going
to
be
offering
that
as
well
and
it's
probably
the
best
and
easiest
way
to
you
know,
get
get
your
message
out,
not
just
on
cable
tv,
but
we're
also
on
roku
apple,
tv,
fire,
tv
and
hot.
You
know
hot
off
the
presses.
We
have
an
iphone
app,
so
you
can.
C
You
didn't
know
that
I
can
tell,
and-
and
we
got
it
for
free
too,
which
is
even
better
and
then
of
course,
whatever
you
produce
at
pctv,
you
can
once
it's
aired
on
pctv.
You
know
you,
you
own
the
content,
you
can
take
it
out,
you
can
put
it
on
youtube,
you
can
splash
it
out
there.
You
know,
send
it
around
the
world,
so
people
know
what's
going
on
in
pittsburgh,.
A
John,
I
have
to
say
2009
would
be
really
unhappy
with
all
these
changes.
You're
making.
A
An
app
I
absolutely
did
not
know
you
have
an
app.
That
is
amazing.
C
You
just
had
a
couple
of
months
ago,
so
yeah.
If
you
go
to
the
app
store,
if
you
have
an
iphone
we're
going
to
be
getting
getting
an
android
after
one
person,
it's
right
there.
That's
amazing
watch
pc
tv
right
now.
I.
A
Am
not
getting
anywhere.
I
am
installing
the
app
as
I
sit
here.
This
is
a
this
is
awesome,
that's
fantastic!
I'm!
This
is
that's!
That's
great!
All
right,
john!
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
do
this.
I
really
appreciated
working
with
you
over
the
years,
even
though
I
didn't
get
to
work
with
you
and
I
that
is
the
joke
I
will
beat.
I
will
beat
that
joke
like
a
dead
horse
just
as
long
as
we
know
each
other.
C
C
And
you
know
I,
I
know
that
I
would
have
enjoyed
working
with
you
and
but
you
know
it
wasn't
meant
to
be.
A
Welcome
back
to
this
edition
of
meet
the
people,
my
name
is
david
feiner.
I
am
the
communication
technology
manager
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
department
of
innovation
and
performance
right
now,
we're
joined
by
allison
ford.
She
is
the
director
of
programming
in
moon
township
alison.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
Thank.
A
D
I'm
from
wintersville
ohio
so
not
far
from
outside
of
pittsburgh.
I
actually
grew
up
an
avid
pirates
fan
and
so
in
college
I
played
softball.
I
knew
I
wanted
to
work
in
baseball
at
the
time.
Well,
I
thought
I
did
so.
I
did
an
internship
with
the
pirates
in
their
media
relations
department.
I
loved
it.
I
was
fortunate
enough.
They
asked
me
to
come
back
for
the
next
three
years.
I
was
fortunate
enough.
It
was
when
we
were
making
the
wild
card
runs.
D
So
I
got
to
be
a
part
of
playoff
baseball,
but
I
knew
I
still
had
like
a
love
for
television
and
I
wanted
something
kind
of
full
time
and
just
kind
of
piece
it
all
together.
So
I
came
to
moon
township
and
I
became
the
director
of
our
television
stations
here.
That
was
six
and
a
half
almost
seven
years
ago.
Now
so
just
kind
of
enjoying
and
taking
it
day
by
day
here
and
just
growing
as
we
go.
D
A
So
moon
community
access
has
been
on
the
air
pretty
long
to
over
30
years.
I
believe.
D
Yes,
we're
well,
we
have
37
years
in
january.
D
A
Tell
us
about
the
job.
What
is
it
that
you
actually
do,
and
what
do
you
provide
to
the
residents
of
moon.
D
Yeah,
so
we
are
a
public
access
station.
We
do
have
two
stations
here,
so
we
have
moon
community
access
which
covers
our
programming
from
booking
shows
to
anything
that
we
do
sports
wise.
We
cover
robert
moore
sporting
events,
moon
high
school
sporting
events,
workout
shows
and
everything
in
between,
and
then
we
have
moon
area
government
television,
which
covers
our
municipal
meetings
for
moon,
township,
crescent,
township,
choreopolis
and
the
surrounding
areas,
school
board
meetings
and
different
programming
like
that
as
well.
D
So
here
at
the
station,
we
are
a
community
access
station,
so
we
are
funded
by
franchise
fees.
We
are
all
community
brands,
so
we
actually
only
have
three
full-time
employees.
D
The
rest
is
all
volunteer
and
we
run
all
of
our
filming
through
that
here,
in
and
out
of
the
station,
we
do
have
a
full
hd
production,
trailer,
full
hd
studio
and,
like
I
said,
we
cover
all
sorts
of
different
shows
and
we
do
everything
from
the
creation
of
the
show
to
the
filming
of
the
show
to
scheduling
and
airing
the
show
and
editing
it
getting
them
out
on
our
stations.
D
Yes,
we're
all
full
time
here
and
then
we
cover,
like,
I
said,
the
sporting
event.
So
this
weekend
we
do
have
moon
and
robert
morris,
so
it's
always
exciting
to
kind
of
do
that
we
are
fortunate
having
the
college
so
close.
We
do
get
a
lot
of
college
volunteers
of
students
who
are
learning
to
become
into
the
media
field
in
the
television
field,
so
that
does
help
us
a
lot.
A
D
Yeah,
so
when
I
got
here,
we
had
all
hd
equipment,
which
was
awesome.
We
were
doing
everything
off
of
a
small
switcher,
just
three
cameras,
nothing
too
fancy.
Through
there
we
had
two
setups.
We
have
curtains,
you
could
change
it
and
kind
of
change
it
around
a
little
bit
that
way,
since
that
we
actually
have
partnered
with
robert
morris.
So
we
do
have
a
virtual
set
that
we
can
do
with
a
plethora
of
different
backgrounds.
We
do
still
have
our
regular
offset
in
case.
D
Somebody
does
want
to
use
that
as
well,
that
we
have
all
sorts
of
different
couches
and
things
we
can
put
on
there
for
them
and
as
for
our
control
room,
it
started
off
very
small.
We
actually
just
redid
it
right
before
covet
hit,
so
we're
still
slowly
unveiling
it.
I
guess,
as
people
start
to
come
back
into
the
studio,
but
now
we've
got.
You
know
two
switchers,
a
beautiful
sound
board,
all
sorts
of
different
graphics.
We've
got
screens
up
everywhere.
It's
just
completely
different.
A
A
D
A
I
don't
have
a
pen,
but
I
need
to
remember
couch
in
the
control
what
has
been
the
community's
response?
What
is
the
moon
area?
Community's
response
been
to
your
upgrades
and
what
you
offer
and
the
types
of
things
that
you're
doing.
D
Yeah,
it's
very
the
community
loves
it
here,
like
I
said
we
do
if
all
sorts
of
all
sorts
of
different
high
school
students
who
are
involved
and
help
us
filming
moon
football
games,
and
we
work
closely
with
the
high
school
on
that
to
our
college
level,
where
we
have
all
sorts
of
different
volunteers
there.
Our
board
of
supervisors
is
very
supportive
and
we
are
fortunate
to
have
them
as
well
as
our
just
different
community
members
doing
things
anything.
D
We
actually
have
somebody
coming
in
right
now
to
grab
a
camera
for
a
car
show,
so
we
get
all
sorts
of
different
things
day
in
and
day
day
out,
it's
exciting,
and
it
seems
we
always
know
like
when
we
go
to
the
fourth
of
july
for
the
township.
It's
a
big
event
here.
People
are
very
interested
in
coming
to
check
out
the
production
trailer
and
to
talk
to
us
and
to
just
get
involved
here
at
the
station.
D
I
think
coming
from
a
sports
background.
For
me
it
would
be
sports
coverage,
it's
fun.
It's
fast,
we're
doing
sideline
cameras,
we're
doing
shoulder,
cams,
we're
doing
rapport,
we're
doing
press
box
and
we're
doing
live
graphics,
and
this
year
we
actually
have
been
fortunate.
We
do
are
still
working
with
robert
morris,
so
we
are
doing
all
of
the
filming
for
them,
but
we
are
doing
it
for
espn
because
they
are
now
coming
through
espn.
A
Many
many
years
ago
I
used
to
do
this
same
kind
of
job
that
you
do
now
covering
high
school
and
division
iii,
college
sports
and
what
I
think
I
liked
best
about
that
time
was
the
high
school
kids
getting
excited
about
seeing
themselves
on
tv,
and
not
only
seeing
I
mean
when
I
was
growing
up
watching
access
tv.
It
was
a
camp,
a
single
camera
that
wasn't
balanced
and
it
barely
followed
the
ball
down
the
field.
A
But
we
were
doing
anywhere
between
five
and
nine
cameras.
Three
or
four
of
them
were
on
replay
two
or
three
streams
of
graphics.
The
kids
were
excited
because
they
thought
the
games
looked
as
professional
as
something
on
espn.
We
weren't
it
wasn't
hd
yet
because
it
was
like.
Oh
six.
I
think
it
was
607.
we
weren't
hd
yet
but
yeah
they
loved
seeing
themselves,
and
I
actually
followed
one
kid
to
the
nfl.
A
He
didn't.
He
played
for
100
teams
in
very
short
period
of
time
and
he
didn't
have
a
long
career.
But
in
my
own
mind,
because
it's
always
about
me-
I
I
just
think
that
maybe
our
highlights
helped
him
get
into
college
or
get
in
get
into
the
nfl.
Do
you
also
do
so?
Not
just
sports,
but
do
you
do
things
around
around
the
school
district
so
like
school
concerts
or
school
plays
or
things
like
that
as
well.
D
So
we
do
partner
with
moon
schools
on
that
aspect
and
they
do
have
a
media
department
that
will
film
plays
or
things
like
that.
So
we
we
do
air
them
here
on
the
station
and
we
will
help
them
with
things
like
their
mock
crash
or
anything
like
that
that
they
would
need
help
for
assistance
with.
But
they
are
mr
kaminsky.
There
is
really
great
and
he
has
done
a
great
job
with
his
students.
D
They
actually
had
a
tv
show
until
last
year
that
they
would
shoot
in
the
school,
and
it
was
just
everything
going
on
for
the
upcoming
time
to
air
on
the
station,
so
that
parents
knew
what
was
going
on
and
kids
knew
and
they
were
a
part
of
it.
So
it
made
them
really
feel
like.
It
was
something
for
them
as
well,
and
a
learning
experience
for
them.
D
A
All
right,
so
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
you
that
are
completely
random
and
have
nothing
to
do
with
your
job.
All
right,
I
know
you're.
I
know
you're
not
from
pittsburgh,
but
when
you
have
sandwiches
in
pittsburgh,
do
you
put
fries
or
no
fries
on
them.
A
A
That's
amazing
you're,
my
new
best
friend.
What
is
your
last
binge
watch.
D
A
D
A
I'm
sure
just
be
ready
for
that.
What
is
the
best
coveted
mask?
You
have
either
worn
or
have
seen
on
someone
else.
D
Oh,
we
actually
had
somebody
come
in
not
that
long
ago,
with,
like
a
darth
vader
mask
on
because
we're
next
to
the
tax
office.
They
did
not
mean
to
come
into
here,
but
it
was
entertaining
for
everyone.
A
Oh
I
like
that.
I
was
telling
john
patterson
in
the
last
segment
that
I
have
a
hannibal
lecter
mask
so
again.
My
wife
does
not
like
that.
I
wear
that
in
public,
but
I
still
the
staff
here.
Everybody.
D
Oh,
I'm
gonna
have
to
go
with
no,
I'm
not
being
from
pittsburgh.
I'm
gonna
save
the
duquesne
because
I
think
it's
actually
the
closer
one.
I
actually
belong
to
st
mary
in
the
mouth
up
on
mount
washington,
so
we
would
take
it
to
go
down
when
we
go
down
to
station
square
and
different
things.
A
A
Yeah
all
right
allison
before
I
let
you
go.
Where
is
moon
community
access
located
your
phone
number,
your
website?
How
can
people
get
more
information
if
they
want
about
what
you
do
there.
D
Yeah,
so
we
are
located
in
moon
township.
We
are
underneath
the
library
in
the
public
building,
so
we
are
at
1700
beaver
grade
road.
They
can
get
any
type
of
information
from
our
website,
which
is
mca,
hyphen,
tv.org,
anything
about
our
production
classes.
D
We
actually
have
just
changed
them
from
quarterly
to
you,
can
schedule
a
class
any
time
and
we
will
do
one-on-one
training
with
you.
So
we
are
more
than
happy
to
have
anyone
who's
interested,
give
us
a
call
come
in.
They
can
email
us
all
of
our
information
is
on
the
site
or
give
us
a
call
here
at
the
station
at
412-269-1191.