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From YouTube: The Grant Street Experience: David Finer
Description
On this episode of The Grant Street Experience, Grant Ervin and Rebecca Kiernan talk to Communication Technology Manager David Finer about how the last 18 months have changed his job.
A
A
You're
as
good
as
it
gets
dave
so,
okay.
Well,
let's
go
we'll
start
somewhere,
that's
fair!
So
we're
we're
doing
it
for
those
technical
folks.
Here
we're
doing
a
three
camera
shoot
so
we're
trying
this
out
and
as
we
get
back
into
the
studio
and
get
our
feet
wet
again,
so
it's
really
exciting
to
be
back
in
the
studio.
I
think,
but
you
know.
A
So
you
know,
maybe
maybe
to
start
the
conversation
here,
it's
great
to
be
back
in
the
studio,
but
I
have
to
say
it:
it's
really
fascinating.
We
were
just
going
through
the
show,
catalog
and
looking
at
almost
we've
almost
hit.
25
plus
shows,
I
think,
and
the
last
time
we
talked
to
dave.
We
were
at
home
and
so
a
lot
has
changed.
You
know
so
we've
done
three
shows
in
studio,
but
the
majority
of
our
shows
four
four.
A
C
A
Had
to
go,
you
had
to
gore
our
oxen
on
the
way.
So
what
you
know
it'd
be
interesting,
though,
for
you
guys
one
maybe
from
a
zoom
standpoint,
and
you
know,
dave
you've
been
at
the
forefront
of
this.
Our
lives
have
been
changed
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
role
technology
and
kind
of
your
team,
how
you
got
us
up
to
speed
as
a
city
operations
in
terms
of
community
meetings.
Council
meetings
shows
like
this.
C
So
immediately
we
had
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
get
the
city
to
continue
doing
its
business
publicly,
but
obviously
not
in
person
this
studio?
This
space
was
upgraded
about
five
years
ago
from
1982
to
2016.,
but
we
didn't
one
one
of
the
mistakes
I
made
at
that
time
was,
I
didn't
allow
for
expansion.
I
didn't
I
mean
I
physical
expansion,
technology,
expansion,
okay,
like
it.
B
C
Everything
was
built
for
2016
and
there
wasn't
really.
I
didn't
have
the
forethought.
What
can
we?
What
might
we
do?
5
10
15
20
years
from
now
to
allow
for
new
technology,
because
I
was
so
focused
on
getting
out
of
1982.
I
didn't
really
think
about
beyond
that
beyond
2016.,
interesting,
so
the
staff,
I
asked
them
to
do
a
lot
of
homework
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
I
believe
they
looked
at
eight
seven
or
eight
video
conferencing
platforms,
and
I
said
I
need
a
quick,
quick
list
of
pros
quick
list
of
cons.
C
I
need
you
to
download
and
test
these
things
out
on
your
home
computers
because
we
were
home
and
we
didn't
have
city
devices
there,
and
I
asked
them
to
do
a
lot
of
work
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
Within
a
maybe
two
days
they
came
to
me
and
said
we
want
to
go
on
zoom
and,
I
said,
tell
me
everything
you
like
and
everything
you
dislike
and
they
told
me
everything
and
it's
kind
of
like
when
we
first
learned
zoom
and
we
had
to
start
teaching
it
to
other
people.
C
A
Some
of
the
I
mean
what
were
some
of
the
pros
and
cons,
though
I
mean
it's
interesting,
because
all
this
stuff
was
literally
off
the
shelf.
It
existed
like
we,
we
had
teams
for
a
long
time,
but
it
was
in
the
background
of
the
microsoft
suite,
and
you
know
I
never
never
touched
that
button.
You
know,
but
what
were
some
of
those
pros
and
cons
between
the
platforms
that
you
guys
investigated
and
then,
ultimately,
what
led
us
to
using
zoom
for
meetings,
public
meetings
versus
teams
for
kind
of
in-house
and.
C
A
C
C
A
A
Yeah,
that's
pretty
good,
rebecca
you.
How
has
it
been
for
you?
I
mean,
because
you
have
tons
of
meetings,
organizing
things
you
know
when
prior
let's
go
pre-pandemic
like
we
had
tons
of
in-person
meetings,
community
gatherings,
etc?
How
has
the
visual
you
know
the
zoom
teams,
world
kind
of
changed
it
for
you?
What's
that
been
like.
A
C
A
Oh
is
that
was
that
a
layout
we
got
to
take
that
so
so
we've
been
working
with
with
general
zinger's
team
in
office
management
budget
and
on
in
procurement,
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
we've
been
investigating
is
how
does
the
city
improve
its
procurement
from
a
sustainability
standpoint?
So
how
do
we
bring
in
environmentally
friendly
materials?
How
do
we
reduce
our
consumption?
How
do
we
save
money,
etc,
etc?
A
And
one
of
the
things
that
we
started
to
look
at
was
what
has
what
is
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
been
on
materials,
and
so
we've
found
amazing
things,
particularly
with
paper,
but
also
office
supplies
and
other
things
that
in
in
frankly,
because
of
the
pandemic
and
working
from
home,
it's
created
a
whole
new,
innovative
space
in
terms
of
how
we
procure
things
absolutely
and
so
paper
reduction
went
down.
I
think.
B
B
A
A
C
At
the
end
of
the
year,
I
remember
the
early
days
of
the
group
back
in
my
day,
the
the
grant
irvin
not
experienced,
but
the
grand
irvin
rule
domain
hierarchy.
You
were
always
at
the
vet,
even
in
your
earliest
days.
You
were
always
talking
about
shocks
and
stresses
and
being
sustainable
in
the
worst
possible
scenario.
And
how
do
we?
C
And
I
think
it's
partly
you
should
be
proud
of
people
like
me
who
the
pandemic
hits
and
we're
stuck
inside
and
we're
don't
go
outside.
Don't
talk
to
anybody,
don't
go
near
anybody
and
I'm
thinking
wow.
Why
did
grant
say
that
one
time
about
that
one
thing:
does
that
have
anything
to
do
with
this
and
just
being
on
people's
cases
to
be
aware
of
this
kind
of
stuff
that
could
happen.
A
It's
you
know
it's
kind
of
interesting
dave
that
you
bring
that
up,
because
we
with
time
you
know,
gives
you
the
ability
to
kind
of
look
back
in
the
rearview,
mirror
a
little
bit
and
assess
things
right
and
say,
like
oh
whoa,
that's
that
that
did
happen
that
didn't
happen,
but
yeah
you're
exactly
right.
We
when
we
did
the
city's
first
preliminary
resilience
assessment,
which
was
what
back
in
2015.
A
A
Right
now,
you
would
be
able
to
flash
the
bubbles
right
now.
This
is
an
hour
in
the
studio
yeah
like
now,
you
gotta
go
ruffle
through
your
backpack,
but
yeah
like
it's
one
of
those
things
that
we
were
able
to
identify
and
as
being
a
risk,
a
potential
shock
that
the
city
would
experience,
because
other
cities
had
experienced
pandemics
right
so
whether
that
is
an
ebola
outbreak
in
west
africa
or
sars
in
east
asia.
A
These
are
things
that
are
on
our
radar
that
nobody,
no
city,
is
immune
to
and
and
we've
seen
kind
of,
the
impacts
of
that.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
just
to
opine
for
a
quick
second,
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that's
been
amazing
to
me,
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
amazing
to
me
on
this
is
because
of
that
work
across
the
city.
A
Our
response
has
been
strong
so
whenever
you
think
of
whether
it's
what
you
guys
have
done
in
here
in
imp
or
public
safety
or
in
the
planning
department
or
across
the
board,
pick
a
department
like
the
agility
and
the
ability
to
continue
to
provide
services.
We
were
you
know,
really.
We
were
resilient
and-
and
I
think
we're
continuing
to
demonstrate
that
and
that's
a
a
testament
to
kind
of
the
city,
the
city,
workforce
and
and
the
people
of
pittsburgh,
which
is
really
cool
to
see.
C
Employees
were
told
not
to
come
to
work
and
employees
are
told
we
will.
We
will
have
something
soon.
We
just
don't
know
what
or
when
yeah
and
being
at
home
was
awful,
I'm
I
I
was
only
home
for
a
very
short
period
of
time.
Okay,
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
First,
our
home
internet
could
not
handle
my
my
wife's,
a
college
professor,
so
she
was
streaming
her
classes.
A
C
C
B
C
A
C
So
I
think
that
the
employees,
not
just
of
imp
or
city
planning
or
public,
like
you
said
not
not
every
city
employee,
was
just
trying
to
figure
it
out
on
the
fly
and
still
be
able
to
do
their
jobs,
and
I
mean
my
team
trying
to
figure
out
really
quick
and
knowing
that
they
had
to
it
wasn't
like
they
had
four
weeks
or
eight
weeks
or
six
months
to
to
look
at
things
slowly
and
write
out
a
report
and
make
a
video
they
had
to
study
this
stuff
really
quickly.
You.
A
I
think,
forever
look
at
that
period
as
like
the
period
right,
but
we're
still
in
the
midst
of
it,
and
yet
we've
and
we've
kind
of
found
ways
to
adapt
around
the
challenge
that
we're
still
in
a
pandemic
right
and,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
nuts
you
were
mentioned.
It
was
awful
being
at
home.
I
mean
what
are
you
guys?
What
were
some
of
your
reflections
of
that
of
that
time?
You
know
that
that
that,
let's
say
march
march
12th
to
july
12th
of
2020
like
personal
reflections,
I
guess.
A
You're
already,
let
me
just
interject
before
you
go
in
there,
because
you're
always
one
of
those
persons
of
like
advocating
for
teleworking.
Yeah
like
you
were,
you
know,
prior
to
march
you're,
always
like
you
know,
could
we
have
these
opportunities
and
that
type
of
flexibility
you
know
which
sometimes
we're
like
yeah
sure
like
I'm.
A
C
B
B
B
C
C
C
There's
a
there's,
a
social
aspect
to
the
office
yeah:
it's
not
the
tv
show
but
coming
to
an
office,
and
I
I,
the
the
home
internet
situation,
is
what
forced
me
to
come
back
to
work
pretty
quickly
or
come
back
to
the
office
pretty
quickly.
So
I
didn't
have
you
literally
need
bandwidth
like
that's
your.
A
C
C
C
C
C
Let
me
back
up
a
second,
you
remember
a
couple
years
ago
I
mean
there
are
these
viral
videos,
whether
it's
on
youtube
or
any
other
platform.
There
was
a
viral
video.
I
think
it
was
a
man
from
britain.
He
was
being
interviewed
on
a
tv
station
live
and
he's
in
his
home
office
and
and
suddenly
the
door
opens
and
a
baby
comes.
B
C
C
I
think
when
I
was
at
home
everybody
every
time
I
turned
on
my
camera,
everybody
would
say:
how's
potter,
yeah.
They
didn't
care
about
me
or
my
kid
or
my
wife.
They
wanted
to
see
my
see
your
dog
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
did
the
same
thing
where
well
not
grant,
because
he
has
this
whole
tower
of
excitement
in
his
house.
So
I'm
sure
he
was
walled
off
from
the
rest
of
his
family
and
fine,
but.
A
We
had
well,
I
had
I
had
kind
of
the
the
we
got,
the
pandemic
puppy
or
not
a
puppy.
We
got
a
rescue
dog
and
so
that
that
was
like
a
new
addition
and
then
I
remember
for
us
like
same
same
thing
as
you
like.
I
have
two
kids
that
were
at
home,
my
my
wife
amy
worked
at
home,
so
it
was
like
the
dog
and
amy
and,
like
two
you
know
one
weekend:
everybody's
like
okay.
This
is
great.
A
B
A
You
know
I
thought
this
couch
was
mine.
You
know
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
reflect
on
just
to
talk
about,
like
the
stressors
for
a
quick.
Second,
you
know
the
the
internet.
One
was
something
that
definitely
came
out
as
being
a
huge
stressor
that
the
internet
itself
is
a
utility
much
like
water
and
electricity.
A
You
know
and
providing
heat
and
and
the
you
know
the
fact
that
we
weren't
able
to
provide
that
in
a
ubiquitous
faction
is
one
of
the
major
underlying
things
that
still
has
not
been
rectified.
It's
correct
and
as
a
result,
you
know
it
pushes
people
further
and
further
behind
whether
it's
for
job
access
or
with
regards
to
education
services.
B
C
Yeah,
but
at
that
time
it
was
great.
I
live
in
switzerland
park
far
east
end
of
the
city
by
edgewood,
and
I
live
right
next,
like
my
across
the
street
neighbor.
His
backyard
is
the
parkway
and
yeah
you're.
Absolutely
right.
We
heard
nothing,
it
was
eerie,
it
was
like
halloween
eerie,
not
hearing
anything,
not
seeing
anything
and
just
the
other
day
we
have
we've
had
our
windows
open
because
it's
been
fairly
decent
out
and
we
heard
we
heard
three
accidents
within
five
minutes.
A
B
B
C
I
don't
I'm
not
a
doctor,
I
don't
play
one
on
tv.
I
didn't
stay
at
a
holiday
in
express
last
night.
I
don't
know
these
things
for
sure,
but
I
think
that
there's
been
a
lot.
A
lot
of
companies
are
allowing
for
a
lot
more
flexibility,
yeah,
whether
it's
like
you
were
talking
about
before
rebecca
you
wanted
to
work
at
home.
C
A
lot
of
people
are
working
at
home
now
because
they've
proven
that
they
can
versus
going
to
the
office
five
days
a
week
or
flexibility
in
the
terms
of
hours.
Somebody
might
say
I
want
to
go
in
at
six
in
the
morning,
so
I
can
get
out
it
two
or
three
in
the
afternoon,
and
companies
are
allowing
that,
and
I
know
it's
not
just
pittsburgh.
I
know
I
have
friends.
C
A
I
don't
want
to
get
into
prognostication,
because
last
time
we
had
you
on
you,
you
basically
said
that
tom
brady
wasn't
going
to
win
the
super
bowl
and
well,
thank
god.
We
didn't,
I
didn't
technically
say
which
year,
though
you
didn't
say
that
is
true.
That
is
true.
So
there
is
always
this
year
right,
but
like
maybe
some
pro
prognostication
I
mean,
do
you
think
some
of
these
things
get
embedded
or
change
like
the
way
we
live
the
way
we
work,
whether
it's
technology
or
the
commute
time
or
what
stays?
What
goes?
A
B
Mean
not
like
this,
maybe
not
the
city's
portfolio
of
office
buildings,
but
a
lot
of
larger
companies
that
are
now
hiring
new.
So
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
job
turnover
and
it
feels
like
a
lot
of
the
people
who
are
getting
new
jobs.
Are
all
teleworking
so
like
I
wonder
how
long
if
that's
a
permanent
transition
or
if
that's
you
know.
B
C
C
B
A
A
A
You
know
pop
up
and
so
you've
seen
in
other
cities
like
we
work
and
and
places
like
that
here
we
have
the
beauty
shop
and
a
couple
others
across
pittsburgh,
and
I
wonder
if,
if
more
spaces
like
that
open,
you
know
to
your
point
earlier
dave
like
do
it
in
some
cases
you
need
to
get
out
of
the
house
and
have
a
physical
location
to
go
to.
At
least
I
I
do
like.
C
A
C
C
A
C
A
B
A
Yeah
but
like
travel-
and
this
goes
in
the
same
bucket,
I
think
of
like
in-person
meetings.
Right
like
there
was,
you
know,
part
of
the
value
and
benefit
that
of
those
engagements.
Is
you
build
relationships,
you're,
seeing
kind
of
different
places,
gaining
new
ideas
and
things
like
that?
Does
that
come
back
or
does
it
I
mean,
I
think
you
know?
Does
it
come
back
at
all
or
for
city
folks
or.
B
A
C
C
C
Companies
spent
on
a
singular
employee,
let
alone
dozens
of
employees
to
travel.
My
mother
worked
for
a
company,
her
her
company
center
around
the
country
and
the
amount
of
money
that
they
spent
on
my
mother,
not
just
on
a
salary
and
benefits
package,
but
travel
must
have
been
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
annually,
yeah
and.
B
I
think
there's
a
there
there's
different
types
of
engagements.
I
think
that,
like
you,
know,
necessitate
being
in
person
and
then
can
definitely
be
done
over
zoom,
and
I
think
that
there
were
a
lot
of
consultants
and
you
know,
companies,
selling
products
or
whatever
that
were
just
flying
out
for
like
a
day
and
then
leaving.
B
C
A
Yeah
there's
going
to
be
a,
I
think,
like
a
hierarchy
like
there's
the
there's
that
where
it's
like,
I
could
do
this
in
an
hour.
You
know
we
had
this.
Actually,
the
other
day
where
there
was
somebody
who
was
going
to
come
to
pittsburgh,
she
you
know
canceled
or
was
able
to
get
a
flight
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
then
we
had
the
meeting
on
zuma.
We
were
done
in
about
an
hour
and
15
minutes.
Yeah.
A
Fly
back
and,
like
you
know,
wow,
it's
great
that
I
think
had
she
come
here,
we
probably
would
have
you
know,
had
lunch
or
you
know
something
to
that
effect,
which
you
know
deepens
a
relationship,
I
think,
but
the
actual
work
got
done
yeah,
and
so
I
guess,
like
the
question
starts
to
be
is
like
when,
when
is
it
task
oriented
travel?
You
know
to
your
point
like.
B
A
Just
you
know,
I
just
need
to
run
through
this
powerpoint
deck
or
whatever
versus
dave,
to
your
kind
of
example.
I
think
the
other
side
of
that
is.
I
need
to
spend
four
or
five
hours
with
somebody
to
work
deep
on
a
problem
really
understand,
you
know
see
the
studio
or
you
know
be
in
the
physical
space
to
kind
of
understand
what
solutions
can
be
developed.
B
A
You
know,
that's
gonna,
be
interesting
to
see
you.
You
mentioned
you're
in
swiss
helm
park,
one
of
the
things
I've.
All
I'm
really
curious
about
is
our
neighborhood
business
districts.
This
has
been
one
of
my
kind
of
other
fascinations.
Have
you
have
you
found
that
you
you
go
to
swissvale
or
edgewood
town
center
or
south
braddock
avenue,
like
the
places
closer
to
you
more
now?
Oh.
C
We
first
thing
we
did
was
sign
up
for
grubhub
and
instacart,
and
all
these
other
things
so
that
we
didn't
have
to
leave
the
house
because
we're
petrified
of
everybody,
but
going
so
not
only
swissvale
and
edward
town
center,
but
regen
region
square,
going
to
all
these
places
locally
owned,
not
national
chains
for
a
variety
of
things,
whether
it
was
coffee
or
a
meal,
a
full
meal
and
trying
out
new
things.
We
honestly
it
was.
What
else
are
we
gonna?
Do
we're
gonna
go
to
the
same
four
places?
C
B
A
A
It's
interesting
because
of
people
working
at
home
and
so
now
that
what
used
to
be
like
a
saturday
thing
you
know
going
to
the
business
district
to
pick
up
something
or
like
an
after
work
thing.
There's
now
like
a
ten
to
two
crowd,
you
know
like
ten
o'clock
to
two
o'clock,
where
somebody's
going
to
grab
lunch
or
pick
something
up
or
make
an
appointment
at
the
physical
therapist
or
whatever,
and
I
I'm
just
it's
really
cool
to
see
that,
because
we've,
what
is
it?
A
B
C
There
were
a
number
of
places
that
I
loved
going
to
for
lunch,
that
that
I
didn't
venture
out
of
the
building,
because
I
was
afraid
of
everything
because,
like
I
said,
I'm
afraid
of
everyone,
but
the
first
time
I
started
wandering
down
towards
market
square
and
again
there
weren't
a
lot
of
people.
But
what
seeing
all
the
closed
businesses
is
just
shocking.
A
Still
yeah,
it
hasn't
bounced
back,
but
there's
also
like
this,
this
dynamic
of
like
new
things
emerging
too
right,
which
I
think
is
like.
If
you
look
at
outdoor
dining,
you
know
and
like
what's
happened
along
penn
avenue
or
six
sixth
street,
like
you
know,
to
have
that
al
fresco,
dining
is
really
cool
to
see
and
has
like
improved
it's,
not
just
market
square
anymore.
Right
like
there's
like
a
whole,
a
whole
new
scene.
That's
that's
developing!
I.
C
C
At
a
restaurant,
I
kept
saying
I
kept
saying
to
my
wife:
it
felt,
like
you
know
those
amusement
park
bubbles
you
put
yourself
into
and
then
you
run
into
each
other
and
you
bounce
off.
That's
what
it
kind
of
felt
like
yeah,
but
it
was
really
nice
to
be
in
a
restaurant
setting
and
again
again,
it's
true.
I.
B
A
B
A
That
is
true.
I
think
I
think
that
there's
there's
a
need
for
that
right,
like
this.
Going
back
to
like
the
human
interaction
I
mean
for
as
much
as
as
much
as
we're
afraid
of
one
another
or
you
know
have
to
social
distance
or
physical
distance.
I
don't
know
what
the
the
right
terminology
is
like
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
has
become
very
apparent
is
that
we
we
need
each
other
right
like
not
to
be.