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From YouTube: The Grant Street Experience: Rick Williams
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On this episode of The Grant Street Experience, Grant Ervin and Rebecca Kiernan talk to Rick Williams from Mayor Peduto's office.
A
B
A
C
A
A
challenge:
that's
it's
always
a
challenge.
It's
true.
It's
true
well
welcome
to
the
grant
street
experience
and
we
usually
want
to
just
start.
The
conversation
off
for
folks
is
having
you
kind
of
introduce
yourself
to
the
audience.
Maybe
if
you
could
tell
everyone
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
your
history
and
how
you
came
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh,.
A
C
You
know
you
start,
you
start
one
entry
point
and
then
you
come
out
another
and
when
I
first
came
in
the
bureau
of
neighborhood,
empowerment
was
basically
kind
of
like
a
triage
of
serving
the
city
and
and
basically
the
team.
There
had
the
charge
of
being
kind
of
that
emergency
room
service
center
and
being
kind
of
the
traffic
cop,
so
to
speak,
and
directing
residents
to
various
departments
within
the
city,
to
kind
of
cut
red
tape
and
actually
serve
serve
the
constituent
base.
C
So
all
of
us
had
that
charge
at
the
bureau
and
my
particular
role
at
the
time
was
to
oversee
the
equal
opportunity,
review
commission
and
the
equal
opportunity.
Review
commission
consists
of
11
members
that
are
volunteers
from
the
city
to
review
contracts,
professional
services
and
construction
contracts
and
to
look
and
to
evaluate
good
faith
efforts
as
far
as
participation,
minority
and
women
vendors.
C
For
example,
if
you
go
on
the
erc
website,
you
could
see
four
years
of
minutes
of
program
of
of
meetings
and
how
the
contracts
were
rolled
upon.
What
was
some
of
the
issues
on
the
contract,
how
it
passed
and
so
forth,
because
the
transparency
of
the
administration,
when
we
needed
to
have
that-
and
so
you
know
just
some
basic
operational
stuff
that
needed
to
be
secured.
C
And
then
I
was
also
involved
in
how
you
know
equity
issues,
because
the
office
of
equity
was
not
formed
yet,
and
so
the
team
there
were
were
doing
equity
work.
However,
it
wasn't,
it
wasn't
named
entitled
as
such,
as
as
far
as
you
know,
formalities
and
processes
and
so
forth.
We
just
kind
of
handled
equity
issues
as
a
team.
C
A
You
know
the
importance
of
of
data
and
helping
kind
of
guide
those
decisions
and
being
strategic
and
surgical
is
is
really
important
and
there
was
a
project
a
couple
years
ago
that
both
you
and
rebecca
were
involved
in
called
the
the
equity
indicators
report.
I
was
wondering
rebecca,
maybe
like
turn
it
over
to
you
for
a
second
to
lay
the
groundwork
for
what
the
equity
indicators
is
and
rick.
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
kind
of
that
that
experience
and
dive
into
some
of
the
the
information
that
we've
seen
from
the
the
equity
indicators
report.
B
Yeah,
the
equity
indicators
report
came
out
of
our
100
resilient
cities.
Engagement
in
2017,
I
think,
was
the
first
year.
So
one
of
the
major
stresses
that
we
identified
in
our
resilience
strategy
was
economic
and
racial
inequities,
and
so
we
were
able
to
join
four
other
five
other
cities.
So
there
was
a
cohort
of
six
to
develop
what
was
called
the
equity
indicators
or
equality
indicators.
We
kind
of
went
back
and
forth
on
the
name.
B
Some
of
them
are
done
by
gender,
so
male
versus
female.
I
think
a
few
of
them
were
and
then
some
are
done
by
economic
disparities
too.
Some
were
done
by
neighborhoods,
so
there
were
kind
of
different
scales.
But
basically
you
know
we
did
a
first
look
at
you
know
who's
the
who
is
the
worst
impacted
and
who
was
the
the
best
impacted
and
kind
of
you
know
went
from
there.
C
You
know
grant
it.
This
is
the
first
time
that
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
put
a
comprehensive
evaluation
together,
looking
at
different
types
of
things
that
affect
our
kind
of
quality
of
life
and
the
equity
indicators
just
pointed
out
things
that
we
already
knew,
but
it
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
reach
in
deeper
of
of
not
only
under
identifying
what
those
issues
were
in
those
different
indicators,
but
also
in
some
cases
where
that
we
could
kind
of
pinpoint
where
most
of
the
inequities
exist.
C
If
you're
talking
about
asthma,
hospitalizations
and
and
so
forth,
we
could
almost
pinpoint
some
of
the
areas
in
the
report
of
where
that's
happening.
When
you
talk
about
homicides,
you
know
that
was
on
the
2017
report.
You
know
with
the
data
that
we
have,
we
can
almost
heat
map
some
of
the
activity
going
on
and
really
to
address
that,
and
so,
as
we
kind
of
look
at
the
report,
we
could
use
that
as
a
tool
and
it
has
been
used
as
a
tool
to
help
us
in
decision
making.
C
Various
departments
and
service
providers
use
that
information
as
they
plan
out
their
strategy,
and
that
was
kind
of
the
essence
of
it
us
internally,
and
I
know
we'll
probably
talk
about
it
further
on
how
we
kind
of
moved
it
to
a
different
framework
that
has
a
wider
appeal,
but
also
people
could
look
at
it
like.
If
we
wanted
to
give
someone
some
data
facts,
we
could
give
them
that
effect.
A
A
You
know
that
it's
an
interesting,
I
know
where
you
want
to
go,
and
I
want
to
hold
off
one
second,
with
that
the
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
ask
the
two
of
you
is
just
a
reflection
on
you
mentioned
rebecca.
The
cohort
pittsburgh
is
not
alone
in
these
challenges,
and
I
didn't
know
if
the
two
of
you
in
having
kind
of
the
experience
working
with
tulsa
and
dallas
and
st
louis
and
and
kind
of
the
other
members
of
that
cohort.
A
B
I
mean
I
can
start.
I
think
what
was
really
interesting
was
so
I
mean
new
york
had
had
started
the
framework
itself,
so
they
did
it
for
the
city
of
new
york
and
then
we
used.
You
know
this
this
framework
that
they
had
right,
but
each
city
did
their
own
had
their
own
method
to
get
there
and
use
their
own
data
points.
So
it
wasn't.
B
While
all
the
cities
had
very
similar
challenges-
and
you
know
we
were
able
to
you-
know,
learn
from
each
other
and
see
what
the
other
cities
were
doing.
We
were
all
taking
a
different
route
to
get
there,
so
you
know,
while
while
one
city
might
have
done
a
community
engagement
around
it
in
one
way,
another
city
worked
with
stakeholders,
but
we
all
ended
up
having
kind
of
similar
challenges
with
some
of
the
data
points
too.
B
So
because
we
looked
at
a
you
know:
80
different
indicators.
Over
two
years
we
were
very
limited
in
what
data
points
you're
able
to
use
that
that
are
updated
annually.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
sharing
in
that
way
back
and
forth
around
which
data
sets
you
could
use.
But
what
was
interesting
was
each
city
had
their
own
set
of
data
points
that
they
wanted
to
measure
they
all
had.
You
know
different
values
that
were
important
to
them,
so
it
was
really
not
about
measuring
your
city
against
another
city.
B
C
I
mean
you
know
just
hearing
some
of
the
challenges
from
the
other
cities
and
hearing
the
structures
are
a
lot
different
in
a
lot
of
those
cities
and
how
they're
able
to
navigate
in
some
of
the
challenges
that
they
face
compared
to
us
and-
and
I
think,
we're
pretty
blessed
to
have
a-
I
guess
more
of
a
welcoming
and
more
of
a
collaborative
nature
here
with
our
various
city
departments.
I
mean
we
really
didn't,
have
to
go
and
push
the
ball.
C
The
thousand
pound
ball
up
the
hill
to
get
all
the
things
that
we
needed
to
do.
People
were
very
supportive
of
us.
We've
heard
different
challenges
in
the
other
cities,
where
it's
kind
of
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
tug
tug
of
war
in
in
trying
to
move
the
agenda
forward,
so
that
I
was
pretty
surprised
about
that
in
partnering,
with
those
other
cities
and
seeing
and
sharing
information
and
so
forth.
A
How
much
did
the
one
of
the
things
that
I've
reflected
on
and
wanted
to
ask
you
guys
about
this?
Is
that
how
much
is
the
role
of
history,
and
we
talked
about
kind
of
systemic
injustice
and
racial
inequality
and
some
of
the
cities
in
that
cohort?
You
know,
tulsa
has
been
in
the
news,
for
you
know
reasons.
Lately,
st
louis
kind
of
prior
to
the
equity
indicators
was
dealing
with
a
lot
of
the
challenges
in
ferguson,
dallas
and
oakland
like
pittsburgh
also
have
had
kind
of
the
structural
challenges
of
of
injustice.
C
C
C
C
C
They
have
that
that
friction
there
going
forward,
and
then
you
know
in
comparison
to
new
york,
which
they
have
a
whole
division
in
in
moving
these
equity
indicators
moving
forward
and
having
the
support
systems
there
to
really
make
change
and
then
and
then
there's
us
kind
of
in
the
middle.
I
always.
A
305
000
new
york
city
employees,
and
which
is
almost
the
exact
same
equivalent
to
the
population
of
pittsburgh.
So
I
always
whatever
I
hear
about.
They
got
a
team
of
people.
They
got
armies
of
people
up
there
rebecca
do
you
have
any
reflections
just
in
terms
of
the
role
of
history
in
the
cities
that
were
part
of
the
equity
indicators,
yeah.
B
I
mean
it
was
interesting
just
to
see
how
the
cities
were
formed
or
how
the
offices
were
formed,
so
we,
I
think,
had
not
yet
had
an
office
of
equity
but
like
in
tulsa.
Their
entire
resilience
strategy
was
built
around
equity,
so
their
resilience
office
was
the
equity
office
and
st
louis
was
very
focused
on
policing.
Obviously,
because
of
you
know,
the
ferguson
incident
a
couple
years
before,
but
it
was
yeah.
B
It
was
very
interesting
to
see
how
that
how
you
know
their
their
history,
but
then
also
like
the
history
of
of
the
reforms
at
the
city
influenced
the
documents.
What
rick
was
talking
about
with
saint
louis
was
really
fascinating
because
they
dug
into
one
of
those
indicators.
So
the
indicator
was
number
of
police
officers
by
race
and
they
started.
They
went
through
this
whole,
really
good
presentation
about
okay,
so
there's
a
disparity
in
black
versus
white
police
officers
in
comparison
to
the
population.
B
Why
is
that?
So?
You
know
they
made
a
good
effort
to
try
to
hire.
You
know
more
black
police
officers,
but
then
they
just
weren't
making
it
through
the
the
police
academy
right
and
they
went
step
by
step
through
you
know,
sending
the
application,
the
screening,
the
training
and
they
were
able
to
pinpoint
where
the
black
police
officers
were
dropping
out
and
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
where
that
equity
was
so
it
was.
A
Maybe
if
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that
you
and
our
colleague
anew
that
are
working
on
there,
because
it
was
kind
of
an
evolution
you
know
so,
like
the
equity
indicators
looks
at
you
know
the
issues
of
race,
but
then
we've
taken
the
next
step
further
and
looking
at
the
impacts
on
gender
right
and
maybe
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
that
work.
There.
C
I
guess
you
know
to
tell
the
history
about
it.
The
gender
equity
commission
started
and
then
there's
about
six
of
them
across
the
country
and
it's
it's
based
off
the
u.n
bill
of
rights
for
women
in
1979
and
in
conjunction
with
the
convention
to
end
discrimination
against
women.
So
there's
a
seed
all
chapter
here
that
partnered
with
former
councilwoman
natalia
rudiac.
C
And
basically
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
convention
to
end
discrimination
against
women
and
they
have
conferences
to
talk
about
racial
inequities,
specific
to
to
women
and
women's
rights
and
so
forth,
and
and
basically
that's
kind
of
their
charge
across
the
country
to
address
those
concerns
and
issues
and
raise
those
things
up
to
the
u.n
on
a
regular
basis,
and
so
there's
representatives
that
are
across
the
country.
I
know
that
there's
one
in
new
york,
I
know
there's
one
in
san
francisco
and
they
all
have
gender.
C
Those
two
cities
also
have
gender
equity
commissions,
we're
the
only
commission,
that's
roped
into
city
government
and
so
and
funded
by
city
government,
which
is
a
a
unique
distinction.
With
that
you
know.
The
gender
equity
commission
is
is
written
into
code
of
our
city
to
be
able
to
service
some
women
in
in
gender
issues
and
girls,
and
so
that
kind
of
evolution
is
the
way
it
was
created
was
to
to
lift
up
those
any
inequity.
C
Issues
with
women
and
girls
provide
recommendations
to
city
council
and
the
mayor
and
to
work
within
our
departments
to
deal
with
any
gender
biases
that
may
be
in
regards
to
decision
making
budgeting
even
how
we
lay
out
things
in
in
the
social
economic
impacts
of
the
different
areas
of
our
city.
You
know
I'll
give
you
an
example
of
like
a
street
lights,
you
know
in
street
lights
and
transportation,
you
know
some,
you
know.
Studies
have
shown
that
you
know
at
certain
times
of
the
night.
C
You
know,
knock
down
a
few
bushes,
you
know
have
some
more
lighting
in
the
space
and
and
so
forth
I
mean
so.
These
are
things
that
are
kind
of
basic.
However,
it
still
impacts
women
and
also
just
regular
people
in
some
cases,
for,
for
example,
now
even
in
the
city
now
we're
looking
at.
How
do
we
have
a
a
gender-neutral,
restroom
or
you
know,
how
do
we
have
sanitary
napkins
in
in
the
women's
room?
C
You
know
I
have
a
weird
situation,
I
mean
you
know,
I'm
the
minority
within
the
minority
being
that
one
of
the
few
males
on
the
gender
equity
commission,
and
so
you
know,
I
have
a
bird's
eye
view
of
of
hearing
these
different
approaches
because
we
have
a
full.
I
would
I
say
I
kid
around
with
a
new
sometime,
a
dream
team
of
people.
C
Some
are
academics,
some
are
women's
advocacy
groups
as
far
as
the
members
are
concerned,
organizations
and
non-profits
that
that
serve
young
girls
and
and
so,
and
then
we
have
other
people
from
from
corporate
and
so
forth,
and
social
justice
and
and
so
forth.
So
it's
a
it's
a
well-rounded
team
of
individuals
that
are
addressing
these
issues
that
are
very
passionate
of
the
work
and
you
know
we're
getting
a
lot
of
things
done.
So
I'm
proud
to
be
part
of.
A
It
yeah
it's
one
of
the
things
I
think
it's
really
interesting
about.
You
know
both
in
terms
of
the
you
mentioned
this
a
little
bit
earlier
about
what
I
would
call
kind
of
the
intentionality
of
of
city
government
taking
lead
in
these
spaces.
You
know
so
forming
a
gender
equity
commission
or
undertaking
an
equity
indicators
report
like
typically,
these
are
kind
of
activities
that
are
done.
A
A
One
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
pick
up
on
you
you
started
on
this.
A
little
earlier
is
about
kind
of
the
need
for
frameworks,
and
you
both
are
involved
in
kind
of
a
project
that
we're
working
on
with
the
united
nations
sustainable
development
goals
and
the
sd,
the
sggs
that
they're
proverbially
known
as
maybe
rebecca
I'll
start
with
you
on
this,
and
because
we
started
some
of
the
the
work
in
connecting
resilience
and
sdgs
in
these
frameworks.
A
C
You
know
we
have
a
wealth
of
people
and
organizations
that
are
addressing
those
things
from
different
angles,
whether
it
be
climate,
whether
it
be
gender
equity
that
we
just
talked
about,
whether
we
deal
with
poverty,
they
would
deal
with
education,
decent
work,
institutions
and
collaborations
and
and
so
forth.
So
basically,
these
united
nations
development
goals
kind
of
allows
different
people
to
kind
of
be
involved
with
things
and
address
things
locally,
and
that
internationally.
A
B
B
So
equity
indicators
was
one
of
them,
but
that
was
like
a
whole
city
look,
but
how
now
we're
at
a
point
where
we
kind
of
want
to
like
drill
down
into
what
is
it
that
the
city
does
operations
wise
and
how
is
that
benefiting
our
community?
So
when
the
sorry,
when
the
sustainable
development
goals,
kind
of
were
ready
to
go
and
ready
for
adoption,
we
looked
at
them
and
and
they're.
B
You
know
similar
to
the
equity
indicators,
almost
depending
on
on
how
you
measure,
but
they're,
really
a
more
holistic
view.
So
what
our
vlr
is
starting
to
look
like
our
voluntary
local
review
we've,
you
know,
decided
to
focus
a
little
bit
more
internally
on
our
own
operations
in
our
departments
and
we're
looking
now
to
you
know,
line
up
what
our
work,
how
our
work
lines
up
with
each
individual
goal,
so
all
17
of
them.
So
what
kate's
been
doing
is
she's
been
convening
different
groups
along
different
themes.
B
So
we've
looked
at
all
of
the
authorities
and
the
city
to
try
to
pick
out.
You
know
what
programs
and
what
operations
align
with
those
17
goals.
So
people
are
kind
of
self-reporting.
We
also
had
a
survey
we're
also
meeting
with
directors
at
the
director
level,
and
so
this
this
first
vlr-
and
this
is
intended
to
just
kind
of
you
know-
be
the
first
of
many.
But
this
will
be
the
foundation
of
okay.
B
A
That's
terrific,
you
know
rick
time
back
to
some
stuff
in
the
early
part
of
the
conversation
like
one
of
the
things
that
it's
really
interesting
is
you
know
how
these
frameworks
start
to
kind
of
gel
folks,
together
and
and
just
create
kind
of
dialogue.
You
know
across
departments,
across
different
divisions
across
sectors.
A
Can
you
talk
any
thoughts
in
your
space?
Having
worked
with
the
eorc
in
terms
of
how
do
you
start
to
integrate
these
frameworks
within
the
opportunities
for
procurement?
I
mean
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
like
the
software
program
that
you
guys
implemented
a
couple
years
ago
that
started
to
establish
some
of
those
baselines,
and
we've
seen
you
know
pretty
much
continuous
improvement
if
I'm
correct
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
of
minority
and
women
participation
and
kind
of
the
from
the
contracting
standpoint.
A
What
are
some
ways
in
which
we
can
mold
these
things
together
to
continue
to
advance
that,
because
I
start
to
one
of
the
things
I've
been
talking
about
with
folks.
You
know
just
in
the
environmental
space,
and
we
did
a
session
yesterday
on
this-
is
about
how
we
can
leverage
procurement
right
to
create
the
outcomes
that
we
desire.
A
C
It
it's
interesting
man.
The
timing
is
excellent,
that
you
asked
that
question
grant
before
I
I
got
on
this.
The
show
I
had
a
conversation
with
jen
from
procurement
and
no
one
yeah
jen
ozinger.
Sorry,
we
forgot
we're
on
tv
and
she
had
told
me
that
they
made
a
conscious
decision
to
get
rid
of
styrofoam
cups
and,
and
so
they
use
the
use
of
paper
cups
now
and
to
really
limit
the
use
of
bottled
water.
Only
in
cases
of
you
know
a
public
safety
issue
and
so
forth.
C
You
know
to
be
out
there
and
grab
and
give
someone
a
bottled
water,
and
you
know
I
was
talking
to
jen
about
how
do
you
look
at?
Where
do
we
direct
our
money
for
sustainability
and
resiliency
is
concerned
in
dealing
with
the
ecosystem
and
all
that
and
work
versus
what
we've
been
paying
before,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
the
starts
of
these.
These
conversations.
C
C
So
so,
basically
rotterdam
as
far
as
the
the
country,
the
city
is
concerned
in
the
netherlands
area.
They
look
at
their
procurement
with
a
component
of
how
it
relates
to
the
residents
there
what's
kind
of
the
social
benefit.
Is
it
workforce
development
training?
Is
it
hiring
the
unemployed
in
the
area?
Is
it
upskilling
the
individuals
as
far
as
the
new
technology
and
service
industry
that
that's
that's,
creating
and
so
forth,
and
it's
being
attached
to
the
regular
work?
C
That's
being
done,
so
it's
not
just
being
the
lowest
bid,
it's
actually.
What
type
of
return
are
you
providing
for
the
country
for
the
city
and
so
bringing
it
back
to
pittsburgh-
and
I
didn't
know
this
until
this
morning-
that
I
don't
know
if
we're
familiar
with
the
brookline
memorial
park
yeah,
I
know
where
it's
at
and
there
was
a
pool
there
and
now
it's
being
used
for
deck
hockey
and
so
there's
actually
two
acres,
that's
available
land
with
soil
and
so
forth.
A
C
We
have
a
community
garden
and
so
forth,
and
the
tr
the
challenges
grant
is
that
the
piping
and
getting
the
water
down
to
that
area.
You
know,
and
so
can't.
We
look
at
some
of
the
contractors
that
we've
utilized
in
the
past
few
years
to
be
able
to
deal
with
the
piping
and
irrigation
issues
to
to
to
to
irrigate
this
potential
garden.
And
so
that's
that's.
Where
trying
to
get
the
mindset
together
and
using
examples
like
this,
that
it
has
a
social
benefit.
C
You
know-
and
we
have
a
food
issue
here
and
so
now
we're
kind
of
dealing
with
sdg
on
on
multiple
levels.
Here,
you're
looking
at
probably
three
different
sdgs
just
dealing
with
that
particular
project
and
how
about?
If
we're
able
to
look
at
that
with
that
type
of
lens
across
the
rest
of
the
city-
and
yes,
it's
creative
thinking,
but
you
have
to
be
kind
of
open
to
it
to
see
what
type
of
things
that
will
benefit
that
particular
neighborhood
moving
forward.
That's
right.
A
Yeah
that
that
gets
me
really
excited.
You
know
when
I,
when
I
saw
that
connection
like
with
our
actually
the
little
genesis
and
backstory,
that
our
partners
at
the
urban
transition
alliance,
which
is
a
network
of
post-industrial
cities
working
on
climate
cued
us
into
that
conversation
and
rebecca,
and
I
through
the
hundred
brazilian
cities
network,
had
worked
with
the
city
of
rotterdam
and
my
colleague
arnold
molnar
there,
and
so
that
was
a
connection
that
we
had
to
help
facilitate
that
linkage.
A
And
you
know
the
thing
that
excites
me
about
what
you're
talking
about
is
these
as
you
integrate
the
sdgs
into
kind
of
the
workflow.
You
start
to
allow
yourself
into
this
higher
level
of
integrative
thinking
right
where
you
just
like
you're
talking
about
you're
connecting
three
or
four
sdgs
in
in
one
one
project
right
like
it,
it
really
starts
to
bring
the
community
not
just
like
from
a
neighborhood
perspective,
but
the
different
components
of
a
community
together
which
is
really
exciting
to
hear
rebecca
you've
been
involved
in
a
project
recently
too.
B
One
is
the
methane
which
you
can
use,
you
know
for
heating,
or
we
are
starting
to
use
that
for
our
refuse
trucks,
which
is
also
a
pretty
cool
circular
thing
to
do
with
it.
The
other
by-product
is,
is
like
carbon,
like
almost
a
soil
amendment,
and
so
our
proposal
to
the
epa
that
we
put
in
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
was
to
work
with
alka-san
to
add
this
infrastructure,
which
is
a
biodigester.
B
There's
a
big
push
now
to
reduce
food
waste
and
use
anaerobic
digestion,
so
part
of
the
proposal
is
to
look
at
the
feasibility
of
having
a
garbage
disposal
subsidy
program.
Philadelphia
does
something
similar
to
that,
so
that
at
your
house,
when
you
have
food
scraps
instead
of
putting
it
in
the
trash,
we
can
then
put
it
down
the
garbage
disposal
it'll
get
sent
to
alpha
sand,
and
then
you
know
we
can
get
all
of
that
effluent
over.
B
To
a
I
mean
this
is
the
theory
we
could
get
it
over
to
a
biodigester,
which
is
you
know
relatively
close
to
it,
but
what's
cool
about
it?
Is
that
it's
you
know
circular
right
so,
like
we
have
a
food
waste
issue,
we
are
all.
We
also
have
a
you
know:
100
renewable
energy
charge
that
we're
trying
to
fulfill
an
energy
use
reduction
charge
and
then
we're
also
trying
to
get
to
a
fossil
fuel
free
fleet.
So
wouldn't
it
be
cool?
B
If
you
know
rick
you're
like
eating
breakfast
in
the
morning
and
then
you
have
some
scraps
and
you
throw
that
bacon
and
egg
the
rest
of
it.
I
don't
know
why
you
would
waste
that.
But
if
you
did,
you
know
down
the
garbage
disposal,
it
gets
sent
over
to
the
sewage
treatment
plant
and
then
it
gets
sent
over
to
our
biodigester
and
then
there's
some
methane.
And
then
we
put
that
in
our
garbage
trucks
power
our
garbage
trucks
with
it,
and
then
it
comes
around
and
picks
up.
A
Be
me
that'd
be
pretty
cool
the
other
piece,
though
too
with
that,
and
I
that's
what
I
think
is
you
know
the
the
other
piece
of
the
circularity.
There
is
the
workforce
development
component
right
so
like
as
you're
thinking
through
like
what
these
byproducts
are:
they're,
not
waste
their
feedbacks
for
other
other
types
of
businesses
that
could
be
developed
and
rick.
You
talked
about
kind
of
the
ecosystem,
it's
it's!
How
do
you
take
advantage
of
really
you
know
developing
that
ecosystem,
whether
it's
through
other
entrepreneurial
opportunities
or
or
contracting?
A
That
would
be
really
great
to
intersect
on
hey,
so
so
we're
pushing
against
time
here.
So
I
just
want
to
be
conscious
of
that.
You
know
I
want
to
want
to
pivot,
to
kind
of
the
the
the
big
question
that
we
always
ask
here
at
the
end
of
the
end
of
the
show
for
for
both
fun
and
kind
of
benefits,
but
rick
we're
interested
in
what
what
you're?
Listening
to
what
you're
reading
anything
and
same
thing
with
you
rebecca
is
there
you
know
kind
of
books
movies.
C
C
You
know,
as
we
look
at
the
lives
of
of
different
people
that
she
measured
in
regards
to
effort
and
talent
and
so
forth
and
kind
of
what
breeds
success
you
know
and
what
breeds
you
know,
master
being
a
master
level
as
far
as
the
work
is
concerned
and
there's
different
arguments
in
in
that
space,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
great
read.
You
know
I
really
enjoyed
that
book
at
first.
C
I
didn't
because
she's
talking
about
west
point
and
so
forth
and
how
they
go
through
things
and
they're,
and
why
people
don't
make
it
through
the
class
and
so
forth,
but,
as
I
kind
of
read
it
through,
you
know
I
really
understood
the
psychology
of
it
and
then
having
different
subject
matter.
Experts
talk
about
things.
C
C
C
Yeah
he
would
watch
film,
you
know
he
would
watch
film
and
say:
okay,
you
know,
I
know
russell
westbrook
moves
more
to
the
left.
I'll
play
him,
a
certain
position
that
you
know
I
could
cross
him
on
the
court.
You
know
so
I
mean
I
mean
he
would
dissect
certain
people
that
he
would
work
on.
You
know
that
he
would
work
against.
You
know.
You
know
something
like
he
was
talking
about
lebron
james,
on
how
physical
lebron
james
is,
and
he
was
using
it
against
him.
You
know.
B
C
Cases
his
training
ethic,
you
know
his
whole
approach
in
that
how
he
sacrificed
his
family.
You
know
himself
to
serve
his
family,
I
mean
he
would
get
up
early
in
the
morning
like
three
four
in
the
morning
and
work
out
before
his
his
family
wakes
up.
You
know,
because
quality
time
was
very
important
to
him,
and
so
you
know
those
are
the
type
of
books
that
kind
of
got
me.
C
A
A
Yeah
for
grant
the
author
of
grit
on
there
and
she
was
really
terrific
and
it
was
just
I
have
that
on
my
reading
list.
So
it's
it's
good
to
hear
that
the
other
one
too.
It's
funny
you
reading
kobe.
I
just
started
the
last
dance,
the
other
night
on
on
netflix
about
the
about
the
bulls
last
championship
season,
so
like
I'm,
I'm
I'm
knee-deep
in
that
right
now.
So
those
are
two
good
recommendations,
rebecca
how
about
you?
B
I
am
a
really
big
fan
of
there's
a
radio
station
in
seattle.
That's
called
ke
xp.
They
were
one
of
the
first.
I
believe
one
of
the
first
radio
stations
to
move
to
like
an
online
platform.
You
know
like
10
or
15
years
ago
I
lived
in
washington
state
and
used
to
listen
to
it
there
and
then
revisited
it
one
time
in
in
new
york.
They
would
broadcast
it
over
there
as
well,
but
they
have
podcasts
live
streaming.
B
They
have
a
really
good
platform
and
it's
interesting
to
listen
to
what's
going
on
in
seattle,
because
they've
been
in
the
news
a
lot
lately,
you
know
for
multiple
reasons
throughout
this
lockdown.
So
I
listen
to
that
a
lot.
It's
a
a
lot
of
really
good
like
independent
music,
but
I
recommend
that
highly
they
have
some
really
good
djs.
B
Yeah
they
do
like
live
concerts
there.
I
think
they've
moved
to
like
people's
lawns
in
the
past
couple
of
months,
but
yeah
it's
very
music
focused,
but
the
djs
are
really
thoughtful
and
reflective
and
they
kind
of
start.
They
talk
a
lot
about
current
events
and,
what's
going
on
in
seattle,
and
you
know
that
people
call
in
and-
and
you
know
to
talk
about-
you
know
the
just
the
current
situation
of
what's
going
on.
A
B
Yeah
this
is
really
interesting
because
each
dj
kind
of
has
their
own
their
own
flavor,
so
you
could
be
listening
to
something
totally
different
than
they
were
playing
in
the
morning
like,
for
example,
it
was
george
clinton's
birthday
the
other
day,
so
full
of
parliament,
which
is
great.
You
can't
can't
argue
with
that.