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Description
Museum Coordinator Lisa Hall, from the Aiken Thoroughbred Racing Hall of Fame, explains her role, the history of the facility, how horses become part of the Hall of Fame, and when it is open to visitors.
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B
A
A
Closed,
probably
in
college,
but
then
you've
worked
with
the
recreation
department.
You
started
out
running
programs
at
Odell
weeks
and
then
part
of
your
responsibilities
became
hopeless
in
the
concert
and
right
patch
and
then
eventually
a
decision
was
made
to
move
your
office
to
write
patch
and
your
responsibilities
just
became
Copeland's
and
right
patch.
That's
correct!
Why
are
you
so
passionate
about
hopeland
Xandra
heights?
Well,.
B
I
grew
up
here
in
Aiken
and
when
you
grow
up
and
akin
you
learn
to
love
the
history
of
Aiken.
It's
a
wonderful
story
and
I've
always
been
passionate
about
history.
I
love,
history,
I
can
remember
when
hopeless
was
first
given
to
the
city
and
going
out
in
Oakland
as
a
young
woman
and
taking
my
nephew's
out
there
to
play
and
feed
the
ducks
and
then
also
had
a
personal
relationship
with
Joan
tower,
who
kind
of
friend,
hope
llins
and
the
hall
of
fame
and
the
right
patch
and
I.
B
A
We're
gonna
talk
primarily
today
about
the
hall
of
fame.
In
a
few
weeks,
david
Taverner
who's,
the
friends
who's,
the
president
of
the
Friends
of
the
hopeland
Xander
eyepatch,
he's
going
to
come
on
he's
going
to
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
the
friends.
He'll
also
talk
to
us
about
the
renovations
that
are
going
on
at
the
stable,
so
we
won't
get
into
too
much
of
that
today.
But
when
did
the
city
take
ownership
of
hopeless?
Well.
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B
B
A
B
That
it,
I
think,
the
the
people
who
lived
in
the
neighborhood
at
the
time
they
had
had
some
concerns
about
you
know
would
it
increase
the
traffic
in
their
neighborhood
and
noise
level,
but
the
city
was
able
to
really
work
with
them
and
get,
I
guess
all
their
concerns
taken
care
of,
and
I'm
grateful
that
they
did
do
that
and
I'm
grateful
the
neighbors
were
willing
to
kind
of
sit
and
listen
to
the
city
and
talk
and
work
together
to
make
it
possible.
I
don't
think
anybody
in
aiken
today
could
imagine
aiken
without
hopeless.
A
A
B
Is
we
had
the
caretakers
cottage?
Was
there
the
dollhouse?
Was
there
the
carriage
house
where
the
hall
of
fame
is?
Was
there
and
the
house
was
there?
Unfortunately,
the
house
had
to
be
demolished.
It
just
wasn't
in
really
really
good
shape
and
unfortunately
back
in
the
80s,
I
think
it
was
when
he
had
historic
property.
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B
A
B
Another
Aiken
jc's
back
in
74
75
was
looking
for
a
project
and
they
had
decided
to
renovate
a
carriage
house
and
I
know
that
money
was
an
issue
back
then
they
didn't
really
have
the
money
to
really
do
everything
they
wanted
to
do.
Well,
then,
Joan
and
Whitney
Tower
moved
to
Aiken
and
mr.
tower
was
a
former
president
of
the
New
York
Racing
Association.
B
He
also
was
the
editor
for
horse
racing
in
Sports
Illustrated
magazine
in
a
noted,
author
and
missed
our
was
very
much
involved
in
the
community,
but
she
also
really
really
loved
horses
as
well.
So
when
she
came
into
town
and
they
saw
that
stable
in
that
carriage
house,
they
were
thinking
wow,
look
at
all
the
national
champion
race,
horses
that
have
been
trained
here
and
there's
nothing
to
recognize
them,
so
missed
our
put
in
fundraising
mode
and
got
the
money
that
was
necessary
to
get
everything
done.
B
B
Did
yes,
she
did.
One
thing
I
learned
about
Miss
tower
is:
if
you
were
respectful
and
polite,
she
was
wonderful
to
work
with.
If
she
really
felt
strongly
about
something-
and
you
didn't
agree
with
her,
she
would
try
to
bring
you
to
her
side
in
her
passion,
for
it
showed
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
She
didn't
have
any
trouble
with
getting
somebody
over
to
her
side,
but
I'm
glad
that
she
was
that
kind
of
person,
because
we
wouldn't
have
hopeland
zan
dry
patch,
the
development
in
the
care
of
it
today.
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A
B
B
B
You
know,
if
I'm
stuck
on
something
or,
if
I'm
not
sure
how
to
word
something
or
how
a
poster
should
look,
I
call
them
up
and
they
they're
wonderful
to
work
with,
and
they
let
me
borrow
racing
footage
and
photographs,
and
you
know
if
I
saw
a
poster
that
I
thought
would
work
really
well
at
our
Museum.
They
would
send
me
the
text,
so
I
wouldn't
have
to
retype
everything.
A
B
There's
two
basic
qualifications
have
two
of
one:
an
eclipse
award
in
hip
horse.
The
horse
had
training
taken.
We
have
an
actual
eclipse
award
on
display
in
the
museum,
but
still
a
lot
of
people
ask
what
is
an
eclipse
award?
It's
kind
of
the
equivalent
to
a
football
player,
winning
most
valuable
player
in
the
Super
Bowl
I
mean
it's
a
national
recognize
two
championship
and
we
have
had
40
horses
from
our
little
town
receive.
A
B
B
B
What
I
do
is
I
keep
track
of
what
our
aching
train
horses
are
doing
during
the
year
I
pick
out
who
have
met
the
qualifications,
and
if
there
is
a
tie
for
some
reason,
then
we
go
back
and
look
at
yearly
earnings
and
if
one
horse
wins
more
earnings
than
another
horse
in
a
single
year.
That's
when
it
goes
to
that
horse
in
the
Hall
of
Fame
advisory
board,
works
very
carefully
and
making
sure
we're
picking
the
right
horse.
But
stats
don't
lie
sure.
B
Well,
when
you
come
in
the
front
doors,
the
first
thing
you're
going
to
see
is
actually
the
Hall
of
Fame
room,
which
has
exhibits
on
each
of
our
40
national
champion
race.
Horses
there's
also
an
exhibit
on
the
Aiken
trained
horse
of
the
year
in
the
next
room.
We
have
a
what
we
call
the
gallery
and
we
have
a
display
of
racing
memorabilia
from
the
crib.
Would
stables,
Charles,
engelhard
own
low
stables
in
Mac
Miller
train
form?
We
have
about
100
trophies
from
just
that
one
stable
in
that
room
that
gallery
room
during
the
year.
B
We
also
have
art
exhibits.
We
have
historical,
exhibits,
educational
exhibits
and
then,
as
you
go
up,
the
stairs
ural
he'll
go
up
on
the
Mac
Miller
staircase.
Mr.
Miller
was
a
longtime
trainer
here
in
aiken
train
see
hero
who
won
the
93
kentucky
derby,
so
we
have
the
staircase
you
know
dedicated
to
him
and
at
the
top
of
the
staircase
is
what
I
think
is
a
very
great
exhibit
is
about
Aikens
african-american
community
and
their
contributions
to
the
local
racing
industry.
B
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
about
that
story,
and
it's
very
important
that
people
know
what
that
contribution
is
I
mean
Aiken
horse
industry
and
Aiken
is
amazing
and
we
would
never
have
had
it
had
not
been
for
the
african-american
community.
They
were
the
groom's,
they
were
ever
trainers.
They
were
exercised
riders,
hot
walkers,
there's
also
at
the
end
of
that
hallway
of
an
exhibit
on
equine
dentistry,
where
we
have
some
antique
equine
dentistry
tools
and
some
horse
skulls.
Kids
love
that
room.
They
love
to
go.
Look
at
this
culture.
B
Also
upstairs
we
have
what
we're
getting
ready
to
open
this
fall
is
a
research
room,
Mike
Freeman,
who
passed
away
a
couple
of
years
ago.
He
was
a
longtime
trainer
here
and
his
family
has
donated
all
of
his
blood
horse,
which
is
the
trade
magazine
for
the
Thoroughbred
industry
from
1946
on,
and
if
that's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
research
tool
for
college
students,
high
school
students
trainers
owners
who
want
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
on
history
of
horse
racing
or
the
bloodlines
of
the
horses.
B
Our
newest
exhibit
is
the
dogwood
room
which
opened
up
in
October
of
last
year
and
mr.
Campbell
very
gracious
to
give
us
a
collection
of
trophies
that
his
horses
have
won
over
the
years.
Some
racing
silks
a
lot
of
photographs,
I.
Think
the
neatest
thing
in
the
room
is
the
saddle
blanket
that
Palace
malice
war
in.
A
B
B
We
have
stick
horses
that
they
can
ride.
One
of
the
rooms
we
have
the
bottom
part
painted
with
chalkboard
paint,
so
they
can
go
in
there
draw
their
own
little
race,
horses
and
color
them,
and
we
have
fun
photographs
and
books
and
toys
and
puzzles.
So
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
about
the
children's
room.
We
want
kids
to
go
up
there
and
we
want
them
to
make
all
the
noise
that
they
want.
Sure.
B
All
of
that
we
will
now,
probably
within
the
next
two
weeks,
have
all
27
silks
up
some
of
our
staples
owned
more
than
one
national
champion
like
green
tree
had
five
but
we'll
have
those
up
on
the
doors,
and
one
thing
new
that
we're
doing
is
we're
putting
a
little
placard
underneath
each
one.
It
has
the
name
of
the
stable
or
the
owner
to
a
little
bit
about
the
history
and
a
little
bit
about
the
horses
that
represented
that
stable,
so
I'm
excited
about
that.
That
should
be
available
for
anybody
to
come.
B
Look
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
Another
thing
we're
doing
is
we're
taking
one
of
the
stalls
and
we're
creating
an
exhibit
inside
about
the
agent
training
track
and
about
trainer
Mike
Freeman,
that's
going
to
be
a
really
neat,
exhibit
bacon
training
track
last
year
got
a
new
sign.
They
asked
if
we
wanted
the
old
sign,
like
yeah.
B
One
whole
wall
is
basically
nothing
but
this
training
tracks
on
and
when
you
have
a
stall
door
open
and
you
walk
by
can't
help
but
see
it.
We
have
the
original
safe
that
the
post
brothers
had
from
1942
at
the
training
track
office.
We've
got
an
aerial
photo
of
the
training
track
itself.
Talking
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
where
the
the
furlong
markers
are
wear
blue
Peters
tree
is.
A
B
B
Oh
yeah
it'll
definitely
be
open
by
Christmas
and
hope.
One.
A
Good
good
part
of
the
renovations-
I
guess-
and
I
don't
want
to
say
this
in
a
negative
way,
but
prior
to
a
big
event
that
happened
in
2008,
was
there
wasn't
a
lot
that
was
going
on
out
there?
Some
things
were
just
sitting
and
displays
not
stagnant,
but
we
weren't
changing
them
out
as
much
but
and
I
loved
it
because
you
could
tell
me
the
exact
minute
when
you
got
the
phone
call
in
own
December,
the
29th
at
two
o'clock,
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
afternoon.
B
A
B
B
B
The
hall
of
fame
was
closed
for
about
three
or
four
months,
because
we
had
to
take
all
our
photographs
and
take
him
to
a
room
at
the
week
center
and
just
label
tables
and
leave
them
alone
and
let
them
just
dry
out,
and
luckily
the
State
Museum
in
Columbia
offered
to
securely
house
all
our
trophies
until
we
could
come
back
and
get
them
and
reopen
them,
which
was
they
reached
out
to
us
during
that
time
and
I
thought
that
was
very
nice.
I
forgot.
A
B
A
B
The
restrooms
actually
are
open.
Now
we
used
to
have
just
one.
We
had
two
bathrooms
in
one
of
the
stalls
at
the
Museum,
so
this
kind
of
funny
visitors
would
come
in
and
say
and
where's
the
restroom
on
just
stalls
are
in
the
stall,
but
we
did
renovate
and
took
another
stall
and
made
them
handicapped
accessible
our
parts
division
kind
of
watched
over
that
project
and
did
a
great
job
with
it.
B
A
B
Was
a
quite
a
line
when
you
it's
kind
of
hard
to
get,
you
know
that
many
people
into
one
restroom,
but
they
look
great
I
mean
they
look
great
and
they
maintain
the
integrity
of
what
the
inside
of
the
stall
looked
like.
They
didn't
really
change
the
look
other
than
pouring
a
concrete
slab,
so
that
was
really
a
great
thing
that
happened.
Is
they
really
didn't
change?
The
look
of
it
and.
A
B
B
You
cannot
bet
on
it.
We
have
had
people
come
into
museum
before
that
will
watch
a
race
and
you
can
see
them
reach
for
their
wallet
and
we're
like.
No.
We
can't
do
that
here,
but
yeah
you
can
watch
life
horse
racing.
We
also
are
working
on
our
Facebook
page.
Our
website
is
fixin
to
go
undergo
a
new
design.
We
have
received
races
from
Kentucky
Derby
Museum
in
the
National
racing
Museum
and
in
Keeneland
of
different
races
for
most
of
our
champion
race
horses.
B
So
we
would
try
to
keep
things
interactive
and
to
keep
things
interesting
so
one
day,
I
would
love
to
have
complete
touch
screen
technology
in
there,
where
people
can
do
that
on
their
own,
pull
up
whatever
they
want
to
inside
the
museum.
So
we'll
see
what
happens
with
that,
you
never
know
we
might
develop
a
hall-of-fame
app
and
very.
B
B
I
have
to
go
out
and
raise
donations
and
sponsorships
for
that,
and
we've
been
very
successful
with
it
had
a
lot
of
great
people
here
in
aiken,
stables
and
organizations.
Individuals
give
us
money
to
help
keep
things
fresh
over
there.
They
support
the
hall
of
fame
and
know
how
important
it
is.
You've.
A
B
A
B
Missed
our
left
amazing
records
of
every
artist
that
had
ever
been
over
there
while
she
was
the
director
of
the
museum,
so
I
was
able
to
go
back
through
that
and
get
some
some
artists
from
that,
and
they
had
already
been
here.
They
know
what
the
whole
thing
was
like
they
loved
Aiken,
so
they
were
willing
to
come,
but
also
I
have
people
on
my
advisory
board
who
know
artists,
have
a
personal
relationship
with
them
or
know.
B
Somebody
who
knows
somebody
and
we're
able
to
use
them
to
get
artists
in
peb
was
a
coup
to
have
him
in
here.
He
is.
His
name
is
Pierre
block,
but
he
goes
by
peb,
but
he
used
to
do
the
daily
race
form
all
the
the
caricatures
for
the
daily
race
form.
They
did
that
for
like
40
45
years
and
so
I'm
friends
with
someone
who
is
friends
with
the
person
who
does
his
website.
B
So
you
know
you
got
to
get
a
work,
your
contacts
and-
and
we
also
have
people
who
call
us
and
say,
hey
I
came
to
this
show
where
I
saw
something
on
your
website.
I'm
an
artist
I
would
like
to
display.
Have
them
send
me
a
packet
of
information?
We
look
it
over
with
the
advisory
board
and
they
help
make
that
determination
of
whether
yes
or
no
we're
going
to
have
a
particular
artist
come
in.
Ok,.
B
A
B
Have
a
wonderful
docent
program:
our
docents
are
people
who
volunteer
to
open
and
close
the
museum
answer
customer
questions.
They
don't
have
to
know
anything
about
horses,
but
if
they
have
an
interest
in
them,
well
will
train
them
or
a
lot
of
times.
They
just
have
an
interest
in
history
and
we're
real
lucky.
We've
got
about
25
right
now,
and
the
majority
of
those
are
from
the
senior
city
of
aiken
senior
tax
worker
program
and
they
receive
customer
service
training.
B
They
received
training
about
the
horses,
the
hall
of
fame,
so
they
can
answer
questions
for
the
public
on.
They
greet
the
public
and
it's
been
a
great
great
program
and
I
like
that.
I
can
trust
someone
to
be
there
and
open
this
facility,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
love
the
whole
thing.
The
way
that
I
do
and
they're
going
to
take
care
of
it,
and
I've
been
very
lucky
in
that
in
that
way
to
be
a
docent
we're
starting
to
have
trainings,
usually
on
the
third
monday
of
each
month.
B
A
B
A
B
Do
it's
it's
really
one
of
our
board
members
called
it.
You
know
the
horse.
Racing
may
have
its
triple
crown,
but
Aiken
has
a
gym
in
the
Hall
of
Fame.
It's
a
unique
museum.
We
try
to
make
things
self-guided.
If
you
want
a
personal
tour,
we
can
do
that,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
people
walking
oakland
gardens,
but
they
see
that
the
museum
and
they
think-
oh,
that's,
not
open
or
that's
private
residence
or
something
new
come
on
in
you
know,
see
what
Aiken
is
and
see
how
the
horses
have
contributed
to
Aiken
you'll.
B
A
A
B
They
were
looking
for
something
to
do
and
they
came
on
an
off
our.
They
called
me
and
said
my
daughter
really
loves
horses,
so
I
went
over
there
and
spent
about
30
minutes
with
two
people.
That's
fine,
I,
don't
care.
If
it's
two
people
I
don't
care.
If
its
twenty
people,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
30
people,
if
it's
an
off
time
and
that's
you
know,
you
can't
come
during
regular
business
hours-
call
me
I'll
set
up
a
day
and
time
to
go
over
there,
because
I
love
sharing
the
story.
It's.
A
Been
good
I
know,
working
with
you,
like,
we
said
for
30-something
years,
your
passion
for
this,
the
Hall
of
Fame,
not
just
the
Hall
of
Fame
I,
think
that's
your
primary
passion,
but
for
hope,
lens
itself
and
right
and
everything
that
goes
on.
It's
been
nice
to
have
someone
on
staff.
It
really
is
passionate
about
what.
A
Know
here
today,
let
me
just
mention:
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we've
got
Stewart
beaten,
Bo,
the
assistant
city
manager,
coming
on
Alicia
Davis,
our
human
resources
director
and
we're
very
excited
to
have
the
mayor
who's
going
to
join
us
in
a
few
weeks.
Mayor
Cavanaugh
be
join
us.
So
thanks
for
watching
and
have
a
great
week.