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Board of Zoning Appeals
May 23, 2023
5:30 PM
Call to Order
Minutes
Old Business:
Final Orders
New Business:
A. Application 23- 93010— Variance request from Dennis Lundblade to permit a fence
on property at 824 E. Rollingwood Rd. SW. Zoned RS- 15. TPN: 104- 17- 15- 001.
B. Application 23- 93011— Variance request from South Aiken Baptist Christian School
to permit a fence on property at 980 Dougherty Rd. Zoned RS- 15. TPN: 106- 16-02-
017.
C. Application 23-93012 — Variance request from Hayden Baptist Church to
permit an electronic readerboard sign on property at 217 Gregg Ave. NW. Zoned
RS- 15. TPN: 087- 16- 10- 001.
D. Application 23- 93013 — Variance request from CH2 Holdings, LLC to reduce
front yard setback on property located at 825 Park Ave. SE. Lot 1. Zoned RML.
TPN: 121- 10- 09- 004
E. Application 23- 93014 — Variance request from CH2 Holdings, LLC to reduce
front yard setback on property located at 825 Park Ave. SE. Lot 2. Zoned RML.
TPN: 121- 10-09- 007
F. Application 23- 93015 — Variance request from CH2 Holdings, LLC to reduce
front yard setback on property located at 825 Park Ave. SE. Lot 3. Zoned RML.
TPN: 121- 10- 09- 008
Adjournment
A
A
B
A
C
A
A
A
F
G
The
subject-
property,
824,
East,
Rollingwood
Road
Southwest-
is
a
0.68
acre
lot
in
the
Maddie
C
Hall
neighborhood,
located
on
the
west
side
of
the
city
between
Richland
Avenue
West
to
the
north
and
Forest
Hill
Drive
Southwest
to
the
South.
The
property
is
on
residential
single
family
rs-15
and
developed
as
a
detached
single-family
residence.
G
The
lot
is
irregularly
shaped
and
is
approximately
one
excuse
me
410
feet
of
roadway
Frontage
along
the
front
of
the
property.
Lot
depth
and
width
varies
across
the
parcel
because
of
its
irregular
shape.
The
primary
structure
is
separated
from
Richland
Avenue
West
by
approximately
160
feet
and
Carolina
Drive
Southwest
by
approximately
63
feet.
G
G
The
location
of
the
proposed
fence
is
along
the
northeastern
property
line,
totaling
190
feet
and
a
portion
of
the
northern
property
line.
Totaling
approximately
15.,
pursuant
to
section
414c
of
the
city
of
Aiken
zoning
ordinance
in
non-historic
residential
districts
in
the
area
between
the
plain
or
the
front
of
the
principal
building
and
any
Street
no
fence
or
wall
shall
exceed
four
feet
in
height,
except
where
a
higher
fence,
conforming
to
these
regulations,
exist
on
a
common
property
line
of
an
adjacent
lot,
in
which
case
the
proposed
fence
may
be
no
higher
than
that
fence.
G
Information
provided
by
the
applicant
about
the
proposed
site
plan
for
the
fence
is
contained
in
exhibit
B
of
your
agenda
packet.
This
is
a
site
plan
submitted
by
the
applicant,
just
indicating
the
portions
of
the
property
line
to
be
fenced
with
the
six
foot
fence.
As
you
can
see,
the
190
foot
section
here
along
Caroline
Avenue
and
a
15
foot
portion
here
at
the
corner,
fences
in
the
immediate
area
by
and
large
conform
to
maximum
vent,
height
fence,
height
requirements
or
exist
as
legal
non-conforming.
G
G
Go
in
here
as
depicted
on
the
attached
zoning
map
found
in
Exhibit,
C
adjacent
properties
to
the
west
or
zoned
residential
single-family
rs-15
and
are
developed
as
detached
single-family
residential
dwellings.
The
adjacent
property
to
North
is
undeveloped.
Excuse
me,
unincorporated
adjacent
properties
to
the
east
and
south
are
also
Zone,
residential,
single
family
and
or
undeveloped.
G
G
It's
kind
of
an
indication
of
the
pre-existing
vegetation
vegetative
buffer
in
the
front
yard.
It's
a
little
hard
to
see
here
too,
but
these
roadway
is
slightly
higher
than
the
the
bottom
of
the
property
here.
So
this
is
slightly
higher
in
elevation
here,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
berm
or
a
hill
here.
G
This
is
just
another
picture
of
the
vegetation
on
the
190
foot,
Frontage
section
of
the
the
property
it's
fairly
dense,
but
just
give
you
an
indication
of
what's
currently
there.
This
is
looking
I
guess
kind
of
North
West
along
the
larger
portion
of
the
frontage.
That's
requesting
the
six
foot
fence
again,
just
to
give
you
an
indication
of
the
amount
of
vegetation
there,
but
also
the
proximity
to
Richland
Avenue
West,
which
is
this
roadway
here.
G
There's
a
picture
of
the
corner.
Again,
it's
the
the
edge
of
the
pre-existing
brick
wall
here.
This
is
a
portion
that
the
15
feet
is
requested.
It
was
previously
requested
to
be
30
feet,
but
because
of
intersection,
visibility
was
reduced
to
15
feet
to
not
conflict
with
the
the
corner,
setback
requirements
for
traffic
visibility.
G
This
is
a
pre-existing
fence
on
the
neighboring
property
that
it
does
appear
to
be
above
the
four
foot
height
requirement,
again
legal
non-conforming,
not
sure
when
that
was
put
in,
but
an
example
of
a
property
in
the
immediate
vicinity
that
does
have
a
fence,
that's
in
the
front
yard.
Technically
above
six.
Excuse
me
four
feet:
that's
in
the
front.
This
is
a
property
directly
across
the
street.
Also,
this
would
be
considered
a
front
yard
because
it
does
front
roadway
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
also
higher
than
four
feet.
G
G
H
G
Well,
there's
numerous
areas
throughout
the
city
that
yeah
basically
are
appear
to
be
in
conflict
with
that
section
of
the
ordinance,
namely
their
vegetation,
is
also
included
in
that
not
just
structures.
So,
theoretically
vegetation
has
to
be
between
three
and
I.
Think
it's
seven
feet.
There
has
to
be
that
that
Gap,
so
to
allow
for
visibility.
G
G
G
Yeah
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
measure
it
you're
talking
about
from
the
roadway
to
the
yeah,
the
property
here
yeah,
but
yeah.
It
is
a
pretty
significant
drop
off.
There.
Yeah
applicant
may
be
able
to
specify
exactly
how
how
tall
it
is,
but
yeah.
Basically,
it
appears
that
cars
on
the
roadway
you
know
are
driving
at
a
higher.
You
know,
height
than
than
the
property,
the
Basin
of
the
property
down
here.
G
Yeah
I'm
not
aware
of
that,
it's
probably
fairly
close
to
that
applicant
may
be
able
to
to
address
that
a
little
bit
better
without
without
it
being
staked
off
as
a
recent
survey.
But
this
this
appears
to
indicate
that
it
might
actually
even
be
a
little
bit
closer
to
the
roadway
than
the
Cedars
themselves.
It
looks
like
the
Cedars
might
be
a
little
bit
farther
back.
I
believe
that's
in
this
section
here.
G
I
G
Potentially,
yet
kind
of
we'd
have
to
determine
whether
or
not
that's
actually
on
the
property
I
mean
it
appears
to
indicate
that
they
are
in
in
this
case
now,
that's
only
for
intersections,
though,
not
necessarily
the
frontage
of
of
the
Carolina
Drive
side.
Really,
the
intention
is
to
maintain
a
visibility
for
motorists
as
they're
approaching
the
intersection,
so
that
one
can
see
you
know
diagonally
across
so,
but
yeah
we'd
have
to
make
a
determination
whether
or
not
the
the
bushes
there
are
actually
on
the
property.
G
G
Yeah,
that's
just
to
illustrate
that
this
this
portion
here
this
triangle
is
considered
an
intersection.
It's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
here,
but
basically
in
these,
this
portion,
like
where
the
where
the
triangle
makes
the
point
the
90
degree
angle,
the
the
height
of
structures
and
vegetation,
has
to
be
somewhat
reduced
in
order
to
allow
for
greater
visibility.
So
that's
why
the
applicant
has
decided
to
only
go
the
15
feet
on
this
side,
rather
than
all
the
way
to
the
corner.
Okay,.
D
G
J
My
name
is
Dennis
lomblade
I
live
at
824,
East
Rollingwood,
Road,
Aiken,
South,
Carolina
and
I'd
like
to
put
a
fence
up
approximately
190
feet,
which
would
actually
be
from
what
you've
seen
a
while
ago,
those
Cedars
probably
six
inches
to
12
inches
to
the
right,
which
is
on
a
slide
Hill
all
the
way
down
to
where
it
turns
onto
Easter
only
wood.
The
trouble
is
with
the
trees.
J
There
has
been
there
for
50
years
and
after
Seng
and
quite
a
few
other
people
have
pruned
it
because
of
the
power
lines
up
ahead
above
they're
very
thin.
If
you
look
at
it
from
my
house,
it
looked
very
thick
if
you
look
at
it
from
the
road
and
down
the
street,
when
you
look
at
it
from
where
I'm
living
at
my
bedroom,
my
living
room,
it's
very
thin.
You
see
the
cars
coming
through.
J
You
see
the
headlights
at
night.
You
hear
the
noise.
If
anything
along
Richland
Avenue
30
years
I've
been
there
plus
years.
They
have
taken
down
full
foliage
along
and
made
more
of
a
parking
lot
up
at
the
tip
where
you're
talking
about
where
the
Cedars
are.
Anyway.
All
this
stuff
here
over
the
years
have
made
traffic
very
annoying,
also
the
noise
very
annoying
and
that's
the
reason
I'd
like
to
put
a
fence
up
to
try
to
block
the
view
of
it
and
also
try
to
get
it
a
little
quieter.
J
If
I'm
standing
up
I
can
see
the
windows
on
the
car
right
here
when
they
come
by
I
mean
it's
very
it's.
It
looks
good
from
the
outside.
Okay,
but
from
the
inside.
The
trees
have
got
too
wide
along
there
and
they're
been
when
they've
been
cut
from
overhead.
They
just
did
not
Bush
out
there
very
Cedar,
just
the
limbs
itself
on
the
inside.
J
J
We
even
know
we
trim
them
back,
fertilize
them
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
usually
lower
pedalums
Advance,
very
fast
or
bigger
than
they
are
I,
was
hoping
if
they
got
more
light
by
taking
the
limbs
off
the
top,
but
doing
that
it's
going
to
be
very
nasty.
Looking
on
the
inside
the
fence,
but
also
I'm
between
the
noise.
The
noise
is
the
biggest
thing,
sir,
without
I.
Don't
want
to
get
into
that
right
now,
but
also
the
lights
at
night
time.
The
vehicles-
it's
it's
quite
annoying.
J
Is
correct
if,
if
my
fence
line
my
property
line
is
basically
a
foot
on
the
right
of
those
cedar
trees
when
you
look
down
with
a
road
on
the
right,
what
I
was
planning
to
do
was
I
want
to
keep
the
top
up,
because
there's
a
power
line
up
above
it
just
to
keep
it.
My
idea
is
to
try
to
cut
straight
down
through
there
and
anything.
J
A
D
J
J
J
I'd
like
to
see
from
your
lot
I
went
and
put
markings
on
different
trees
out
there
and
four
foot
and
six
foot.
That's
the
reason.
I
made
the
determination
I'd
like
to
go
with
a
six
foot,
because
the
four
foot
from
inside
my
house,
you
can
still
see
the
top
of
the
car,
the
good
part
of
the
top
of
the
car.
So
at
six
foot,
the
ordinary
car
you
do
not
see.
J
J
J
H
J
K
Yeah
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
feel
for
I
mean
when
you're
sitting
down
on
a
hole
like
that,
certainly
sympathetic
to
to
trying
to
get
a
little
taller
fence
when
the
traffic
situation
is
above
you
but
I'm
just
trying
to
determine
if
you're,
if
you're
going
to
the
top
of
the
mound,
then
requesting
the
additional
footage
is
more
problematic
for
me.
But
now
now
I've
got
at
least
a
fix.
K
K
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Worse
is
190
feet
that
part
right
there
I'm
not
planning
to
go
190
feet
if
you,
when
he
showed
you
that
wall
a
while
ago
that
wall
is
put
there,
because
there's
a
big
10
foot
drainage
dish
going
through
the
front
of
my
yard,
well
that
what
I
was
planning
to
do
is
actually
run
it
up
to
that
fence
was
probably
more
hundred
170
feet,
180
feet
there
approximately
then
follow
the
follow.
The
line
of
the
fence
just
in
front
of
the
fence,
all.
J
G
E
F
J
J
D
D
D
A
flooded
a
flooded
area,
I
mean
literally
it
flooded
out
homes,
I,
don't
know
where
they
got
yours
or
not
a
couple
of
your
neighbors,
so
that
area
your
area
has
been
reconfigured,
so
to
speak,
to
allow
for
proper
drainage
to
keep
it
from
going
in
your
yard,
as
well
as
the
adjacent
homes.
Is
that
right?
Yes,
sir.
J
B
D
The
location
of
the
improvements
be
consistent
with
any
site
plan.
The
final
order
shall
run
with
the
land
and
final
order
shall
be
recorded
at
the
Aitkin
County
RMC
office
and
Mr
chair
I.
Don't
think
I
reference,
the
the
App
application
number.
If
that's
the
proper
way
to
do
it,
application
23-93010.
A
E
B
B
G
G
G
The
location
of
the
fence
is
along
the
southern
property
line,
fronting
Doherty,
Road
totaling
approximately
140
feet,
pursuant
to
section
414c
of
the
city
of
zoning,
ordinance
and
non-historic
residential
districts
and
the
area
between
the
plane
or
the
front
of
the
principal
dwelling
and
any
Street,
no
fence
or
wall
shall
exceed
four
feet
in
height,
except
where
a
higher
fence,
conforming
to
these
regulations,
exists
on
a
common
property
line
of
an
adjacent
lot.
In
which
case
the
proposed
fence
may
be
no
higher
than
that
fence.
G
G
That's
approximately
140
feet,
along
that
southern
property
line
there
kind
of
in
between
those
two,
the
two
brackets
there
fences
in
the
immediate
area
by
and
large
conform
to
maximum
height
requirements
exist
as
legal
non-conforming
or
located
on
unincorporated
properties
outside
the
jurisdiction
of
the
city's
zoning
ordinance.
The
pre-existing
fence
is
approximately
five
feet
in
height
the
playground
area,
which
the
defense
currently
houses
does
also
sit
lower
than
the
roadway
grade,
which
makes
the
current
fence
appear
lower
than
five
feet.
G
Generally.
Maximum
fence
height
requirements
have
been
established
for
two
reasons.
The
first
is
to
promote
a
standard,
aesthetic
for
residential
and
Commercial
development
within
the
city
of
Aitkin,
which
facilitates
the
creation
of
a
convenient,
attractive
and
harmonious
Community,
while
providing
for
adequate
light,
air
and
open
space.
G
The
second
is
to
preserve
line
of
sight
along
roadways
and
sidewalks
to
minimize
accidents
that
occur.
That
may
occur
as
a
result
of
reduced
sight
distance
as
depicted
on
the
attached
zoning
map
found
in
exhibits
packet
adjacent
properties
to
the
north
are
a
mixture
of
General
business
or
residential
multi-family,
both
rml
and
h,
and
are
developed
as
either
commercial
establishments
or
apartments.
Slash
duplexes,
the
adjacent
properties
to
the
South
are
primarily
unincorporated.
G
Adjacent
properties
to
the
East
are
either
unincorporated
or
Zone
residential
multi-family,
low
density,
rml
and
properties
to
the
west
across
Silver
Bluff,
our
Zone
General
business
and
developed
as
commercial
establishments
exhibit
D
in
your
agenda.
Packet
contains
photographs
of
the
property
taken
by
staff
depicting
property.
G
This
is
just
a
photograph
of
our
notice,
as
well
as
a
the
the
corner
portion
of
the
the
current
fence,
as
well
as
the
playground
area
to
the
left.
This
is
Dougherty
Road
to
the
right,
as
you
can
kind
of
see
here,
there's
a
similar
situation
where
the
roadway
sits
higher
than
the
property
itself,
as
I
mentioned.
That
does
make
this
fence
appear
as
though
it
is
smaller
than
than
five
feet
again.
Just
a
picture
of
the
the
corner
itself.
G
So
the
approximately
this
section
here
leading
down
to
about
here,
probably
about
140
feet,
is
the
section
that
falls
technically
in
the
front
yard
in
the
front
plane
of
the
of
the
property,
and
so
because
of
that
it
they
do
need
the
variance
to
increase
the
fence
height
again.
This
is
just
looking
I
guess:
sort
of
East
down
Doherty
Road,
just
depicting
the
existing
conditions
of
the
foot
fence,
it's
proximity
to
the
playground
here
and
again,
sort
of
the
discrepancy
and
the
height
of
the
roadway
and
the
surrounding
property.
G
This
is
looking
West
up,
Dory
Road
back
towards
the
the
primary
structure
on
the
lot
can't
see
it
because
of
the
it's
obscured
by
the
tree,
but
essentially
because
of
the
orientation
of
the
primary
structure.
Further
up
the
road
here,
this
this
portion,
you
know,
cut
at
an
angle,
is
considered
in
the
front
yard
so
because
of
that
it
requires
the
variance.
G
This
is
just
again
a
picture
of
the
fence
and
the
the
playground
on
the
the
church
property,
just
a
close-up
of
the
pre-existing
fence,
approximately
five
feet
in
height
just
its
current
condition.
These
are
the
surrounding
properties.
To
the
South,
these
are
all
unincorporated,
so
fall
outside
the
jurisdiction
of
the
City
Aiken,
but
I
believe
it's
a
mixture
of
commercial
and
and
residential
use,
but
the
commercial
uses
are,
are
more
office
based.
G
G
G
E
G
G
G
G
Well,
I
I
spoke
to
to
somebody
an
employee
or
a
teacher.
I
can't
remember,
but
I
believe
their
plan
is
to
to
fence
off
additional
portions
with
on
it
within
the
property
for
security
of
the
children,
so
I
think
they're
going
to
probably
overhaul
most
of
it,
but
this
is
the
only
section
that
would
require
our
oversight,
because
it's
it's
technically
in
the
front
yard.
G
D
G
The
space
between
the
structure
and
the
roadway
is
considered
the
front
yard,
so
that
would
be
required
to
go
down
to
four
feet.
So
if
you,
if
you
draw
a
straight
line,
all
the
way
to
the
the
corner
of
the
property,
there's
a
portion
of
the
fence,
that's
on
the
property
line.
Here,
it's
kind
of
like
a
really
sharp
angle.
Like
a
triangle.
F
G
Would
fall
in
the
front
plane
of
the
of
the
property,
so
all
of
this
is
considered
side
and
rear,
but
because
there
is
a
portion
of
the
fence
in
here,
just
a
slight
section
here,
that's
in
front
of
it's
closer
to
the
roadway
than
it
is
the
the
structure
here.
Basically,
it's
in
front
of
the
the
structure.
D
G
G
Yep
yep
and
that's
I
mean
I
suspect.
Also,
that's
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
history
of
the
of
the
the
building,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
it
it's
a
little
more
oriented
towards
Silver
Bluff.
It's
like
pretty
parallel
with
Silver
Bluff
here
the
front,
but
this
is
that
you
can
kind
of
see,
there's
like
an
angle
here
so
potentially
that
could
have
been
alleviated
if
they
had.
You
know
oriented
everything
towards
Doherty
Road.
G
D
G
Me,
the
blue
line
is
the
the
perimeter
of
the
the
property
that
could
have
a
six
foot
fence,
because
that
is
all
either
side
or
rear
yard,
but
anything
in
the
front
kind
of
outlined
with
this
red
here,
that's
the
space
between
the
roadway
and
the
structure,
the
primary
structure
on
the
lot,
so
that
has
to
come
down
to
four
feet
per
the
ordinance,
but
because
there's
a
section
of
the
fence
that
is
in
that
area
that
four
foot
area
because
of
this
line
here,
that's
the
request.
The
the
reason
for
the
request.
Okay,.
G
I
believe
they're
gonna,
there's
gonna,
be
some
additional
fencing
as
part
of
their
overall
plan,
but
we
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
necessarily
I
mean
unless
it's
you
know,
eight
feet
tall
or
something
I
mean,
but
they
could
have
it.
They
could
have
a
six
foot
fence
back
in
here.
I
mean
that,
wouldn't
that
wouldn't
we
wouldn't
get
involved
in
that
because
that
conforms
to
the
ordinance
I
think
they
have
a
larger
plan
to
you
know
just
generally
increase
fencing
on
the
property,
but
the
applicant
might
be
able
to
clarify
that
as
well.
D
G
E
L
G
G
E
G
G
D
There's
another
question:
so
they
could
the
applicant
technically
then,
could
mark
off
that
140
feet
along
that
fence
line
and
from
where
that
the
corner
is
on
that
140
feet.
Then
from
that
point
they
left
that
fence
alone.
That
section
of
fence
which
is
five
feet,
then
they
could
take
the
rest
of
that
fence
and
move
it
to
six
feet
and
stay
within
the
ordinance.
Is
that
correct.
G
G
K
G
K
D
G
M
I
think
I
can
add
a
little
Clarity,
the
short
section
on
daughtery
Road.
The
plan
is
to
move
that
entire
fence
map
back
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
playground
a
little,
but
the
more
important
reason
is
to
provide
better
security
for
cars
coming
off
of
daughtery
Road,
whether
intentionally
or
unintentionally.
The
results
could
very
well
be
the
same.
You'd
have
children
injured
on
a
playground,
but
we
can't
to
get
past
that
corner
section.
We
would
have
to
cut
the
playground
in
half.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
M
M
Then
we
can
put
some
security
measures
along
the
face
of
the
fence
that
if
a
car
did
come
off
of
daughtery,
it
would
not
be
possible
for
it
to
get
on
the
playground.
My
background
is
law
enforcement
I'm
a
volunteer
for
the
school
I
also
have
two
grandchildren
there,
Miss
Bryant,
who
is
the
principal,
is
here.
M
You
can
also
answer
your
questions,
but
the
school
is
in
the
process
of
trying
to
improve
security
where
we
can
without
building
a
new
school.
This
originally
started
as
a
church
school
developed
almost
50
years
ago
now,
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
hodgepodge
so
we're
having
to
do
things
that
make
the
most
sense
to
offer
additional
security
without
spending
40
fortunes.
M
M
M
And
this
is
being
done
exclusively
for
safety
concerns,
we're
not
interested
in
Aesthetics
the
fence
that
goes
back.
My
understanding
would
also
be
chain
link.
It
would
mimic
the
fencing
that's
already
out
there
of
that.
Playground
has
been
there,
probably
since
the
school
was
formed,
so
we're
not
asking
to
change.
Appearance,
looks
blocked
view
for
cars.
Any
of
that
we're
just
asking
to
be
able
to
make
that
playground
a
safer
entity
for
the
kids
that
go
out
there
every
day
and
staff
is
also
on
that
playground.
D
D
M
M
B
D
M
M
I'm,
hoping
not
they've
been
talking
about
widening
daughter,
recents
I
joined
the
police
department.
If
they
do,
we
may
have
to
adjust
again,
but
right
now,
daughter
erode.
If
that
slide
is
up,
you
can
see
just
how
close
it
is
to
that
fence
and
that
chain
link
fence
will
not
stop
a
car
and
that's
a
concern,
we're
kind
of
taking
our
biggest
concerns
and
addressing
those
first.
M
M
M
Some
other
issues
we
discussed
was
entry
into
the
building,
how
we
allow
that
and
what
we
do
to
prevent
the
wrong
person
from
getting
through
the
door.
There
was
no
incident
that
prompted
any
of
this.
It
was
foresight
on
Miss,
Bryant's
part
and
trying
to
make
some
positive
steps
to
move
forward.
If
you
listen
to
the
news,
you
know
there's
problems
like
this
all
over
the
country
and
we
don't
want
to
be
one
of
the
problems.
M
I
F
M
Is
a
another
layer
on
the
layers
we've
already
built,
and
we
have
some
more
that
we
want
to
add
on
top
all
of
those
occur
on
the
church
property.
So
it's
not
something
we
would
have
to
address
before
this
body
again,
but
it
it
is
one
of
those
things
where,
let's
do
it
now
before
we
have
a
problem.
Instead
of
waiting
till
we
have
a
problem
and
say
well,
I
wish
we'd
have
taken.
Some
looks
at
that
fence
on
daughter
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
evil
person
doing
evil
things.
D
M
Again,
this
is
a
private
school
funds
are
limited,
so
we
can
do
so
much
with
the
money
we
have
and
in
this
instance
I
think
we
might
be
at
that
point
where
we
do
nothing
or
do
as
much
as
we
can,
but
we
can't
move
the
whole
world
gotcha
it
if
you'd
like
to
make
a
sizable,
no
Nation,
we'll
move
it
completely
off
adultery.
But
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
money
to
do
that.
Sir.
M
I
E
Yes,
Mr
chairman
Nancy
I
have
a
problem
with
number
four.
The
final
order
shall
run
with
the
land.
Let's
just
suppose
that
this
church
slash
School
moves.
Something
else
goes
there
and
I.
Just
don't
want
them
to
be
able
to
put
a
six
foot
tall
fence
there
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
the
motion
maker
might
consider
changing
that
that
it
should
run
with
this
particular
School.
I
Ask
the
motion
maker
and
the
second
sure
I'm
not
sure
what
the
correct
etiquette
here
is.
My
reticence
to
change
the
motion
is
that,
based
on
my
understanding
of
Doherty,
if
the
school
should
relocate
and
that
becomes
a
viable
property,
I
think
it's
still
relative
to
possibly
what
goes
in
its
place
and
I
think
it's
still
relevant
to
the
topography
in
relation
to
the
road
so
Max,
you
may
have
to
guide
me
here.
I'm
I'm
I'd
like
to
keep
the
motion.
E
E
G
Yeah
not
to
my
knowledge,
I
mean
we
really
don't
regulate
material.
The
ordinance
doesn't
regulate
material
unless
it's
in
a
historic
or
the
whole,
they
can
overlay,
in
which
case
it
would
be
subject
to
design
review
board
approval.
So
the
ordinance
only
speaks
to
maximum
Heights,
not
Material
yeah.
E
I
E
K
I
A
A
K
K
G
G
I
A
A
G
A
G
The
property
currently
has
a
legal
non-conforming
manual
reader
board
sign
located
on
the
Eastern
side
of
the
property
in
the
road
right-of-way.
However,
in
order
to
better
identify
the
site
and
provide
messages
to
parishioners
and
the
public,
a
new
freestanding
reader
board
sign
is
proposed
to
replace
the
existing
sign
information
provided
by
the
applicant
about
the
dimensions
oh
sign
is
contained
in
exhibit
D
of
your
agenda
packet.
G
As
indicated
by
the
submitted,
rendering
the
proposed
sign
is
a
non-monument
freestanding,
sign
approximately
32
square
feet,
an
area
that
will
include
an
electronic
reader
board,
which
totals
approximately
88
of
the
sign
area
since
Greg
Avenue
is
not
considered
a
main
arterial.
The
proposed
sign
cannot
contain
a
reader
board
by
right.
G
The
subject
property
is
developed
and
utilized
as
a
church,
slash
religious
institution.
Currently,
the
message
is
displayed
on.
The
sign
must
be
manually
changed
the
site's
development
and
use
predate
the
current
zoning
District
designation
as
Illustrated
in
the
attached
zoning
map.
The
current
zoning
is
rs15,
but
this
zoning
designation
limits
the
size
and
sign
top
typology
in
order
to
minimize
the
impact
to
surrounding
residential
districts.
G
Zoning
restrictions
on
signs
are
based
on
zoning
classification,
not
intensity
of
use,
which
prohibits
the
installation
of
the
proposed
sign
in
the
district
as
zoned
as
depicted
on
the
attached
zoning
map
here
is
Exhibit
C.
Most
of
the
surrounding
properties
are
unincorporated
and
are
therefore
not
subject
to
the
city's
zoning
ordinance.
G
However,
city
council
has
the
authority
to
permit
electronic
reader
board
signs
in
areas
of
and
residential,
which
would
include
these
properties
to
the
South,
which
is
a
residential
development
through
approval
of
a
concept
plan
in
compliance
with
zoning
ordinance.
Section
447e
religious
institutions
are
permitted
by
special
exception
in
residential
districts,
but
are
permitted
by
right
in
certain
non-resident.
Excuse
me,
non-residential
districts,
including
office,
General,
business
plan,
commercial
and
downtown
business
generally
speaking,
sign
requirements
are
less
restrictive
in
non-residential,
districts
exhibit
in
your
agenda.
G
G
G
G
It's
just
the
reverse
side
of
the
the
sign
looking
South
down
Greg
again,
just
to
illustrate
the
the
current
nature
of
the
sign
and
once
again
looking
North
up
Greg
Avenue,
just
to
illustrate
the
current
conditions
of
the
sign
and
as
as
I
mentioned
going
back
here,
it's
a
little
tough
to
see
on
this
aerial
here,
but
that's
the
location
you
can
kind
of
see
that
it
is.
It
is
currently
in
the
right
of
way.
G
So
it's
it's
a
legal
non-conforming
sign.
That's
that's
not
technically
on
the
property.
Now
this
line
might
fluctuate
a
little
bit.
These
aerial.
Excuse
me.
These
digital
representations
of
the
property
lines
are
are
not
100,
but
it
seems
pretty
clear.
At
least
a
portion
of
it
is
is
outside
of
the
off
property.
G
H
G
B
G
H
G
G
So
the
ordinance
states
that
identification
signs
for
for
institutions
or
schools
are
required
to
be
ground-mounted,
Monument
sign,
I
suspect
to
preserve
some
sort
of
aesthetic
quality,
but
yeah
as
as
proposed.
It's
not
technically.
A
monument
sign
I
believe
the
base
has
to
be
a
certain
size
larger
than
the
the
side
phase.
A
D
G
No,
that
that
would
actually
not
be
permitted.
They
would
have
to
come
into
compliance,
it's
not
on
their
property
so
because
it
is
being
replaced,
it
would
have
to
be
moved
on
to
the
property
line.
There's
not
really
any
way
around
that
now.
Theoretically,
they
could
put
it
really
anywhere
they
want.
G
Neither
neither
roadway
is,
is
arterial
but
I,
don't
believe
they've
quite
determined
exactly
where
they
want
it,
but
in
in
speaking
with
with
with
individuals,
I
believe
it
was
a
pastor
I
think
it's
going
to
be
approximately
the
same
like
along
the
same
line,
just
kind
of
move
slightly
back
to
make
sure
that
it
is
on
the
property.
Okay,.
G
A
F
G
A
D
G
Reader
board
I
believe
that's
the
case,
yeah
it's
it's
not
clear.
100
here
and
I
did
reach
out
to
the
signed
company,
but
they
weren't
unable
to
provide
me
with
that
specific
measurement
at
the
time
before
the
meeting,
but
yeah
just
doing
rough
math
I
mean
it
exceeds.
It
exceeds
that
60
threshold
regardless.
If
that's
basically
like
you
know
three
and
a
half
or
three
feet
regardless
that
would
that
would
still
exceed
60
percent.
D
G
D
G
That
I'm,
not
sure
I,
mean
I,
believe
this
I
don't
know
to
what
degree
that
that
the
sign
is
customizable
in
that
sense.
In
order
to
conform,
though
it
would
have
that
this
portion
would
have
to
be
reduced
to
sixty
percent
of
the
overall
sign
face
which
it's
higher
than
that
currently,
as
submitted
okay,
foreign.
N
N
So
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that,
but
we're
going
to
move
the
sign.
If
you
can
go
this
page,
we're
gonna
move
it
from
where
it
is
now
back
towards
the
church
about
the
way
the
cross
is,
so
it
would
be
further
away
from
the
highway.
Also-
and
you
know,
our
complaint
is
about
light,
the
light
is
that's
the
front
of
the
church
and,
from
my
understanding
is
that
the
person
that's
complaining
is
further
back
behind
the
church.
N
N
Basically,
we
don't
have
any
problems
with
any
of
the
neighbors
and
they've
all
been
very
nice
to
us.
So
we
we'd
have
no
complaints
about
that.
Except
for
this
one
that
and
like
I
said
they
are
in
the
back
and
the
lights,
and
anything
from
the
sign
would
be
exactly
where
it's
at
now
in
the
front
of
the
church.
N
So
it
would
not
make
a
big
brighter
sign
a
spot
than
it
would
without
it,
because
the
lighting
we
have
lights
on
the
both
sides
of
the
church,
both
sides
of
the
lot-
and
that
is,
is
up
high
and
it
shines
down
on
it
on
the
church.
So
that
excuse
me
so
that
we,
the
cameras,
will
work
properly
and
if
something
happens,
we
would
have
it
on
camera.
B
N
A
N
N
C
Good
evening,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
William
Robinson
Junior
I
serve
as
the
senior
servant
and
pastor
of
the
Hayden
Baptist
Church
on
217
Greg
Avenue
Northwest
in
Aiken
South
Carolina
I
currently
reside
in
Columbia
South
Carolina
at
seven
eight
780
fashion,
Drive
in
Columbia,
South
Carolina,
so
I
commute
here
back
and
forth
for
the
last
five
or
six
years,
and
so
grateful
for
the
opportunity
for
what
the
Lord
has
been
doing
through
us
and
with
us.
C
Definitely,
the
neighborhood
that
we're
in
has
not
been
our
existing
neighborhood
for
over
140
years
that
we
have
been
in
the
shaw,
Community,
Aitkin
County,
but
definitely
after
the
horrific
fire
in
2012
that
took
the
original
building
at
175,
Greg
Avenue.
It
caused
us
to
come
into
town,
but
under
the
understanding
when
I
started,
you
know
researching
that
we
were
all
in
in
the
county
until
we
started
going
with
this
project
that
we
found
out.
We
were
in
the
city
which
we're
grateful
to
be
in
the
city.
C
We
get
so
many
different
updates
to
what's
going
on
in
the
city,
and
we
display
that
on
Sunday
morning,
so
immediate
releases
that
we
get.
We
display
those
on
Sunday
mornings,
and
so
we
like
to
also
display
that,
on
the
sign,
we've
had
the
chance
to
speak
with
Mr
Plankton
I've
reached
him
for
all
that
he
has
done
with
helping
us
try
to
get
this
done.
C
We
got
the
sign
from
Stewart's
sign
out
of
Florida
Florida
out
of
Florida
and
within
that
not
sometimes,
just
when
you
don't
know,
you
don't
know,
not
understanding
the
process
of
having
to
go
through
the
variants
and
all
of
that,
but
I
think
everyone
that
has
helped
us
and
assist
us
with
that
and
the
company
out
of
Moncks
Corner.
That
will
be
helping
us
assist
with
installing
the
sign
with
the
sign.
C
We
are
definitely
going
to
look
to
move
it
after
speaking
with
Mr
planky,
and
definitely
we're
looking
at
the
corner
of
Hudson
and
Greg
Avenue
to
actually
place
it
there,
based
upon
some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
looking
to
do
in
the
future,
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
with
renovating
the
inside
of
our
church.
It
was
previously
The
Seventh-Day,
Adventist
Church,
so
we
have
done
some
upgrading
within
our
sanctuary
and
even
outside
our
sanctuary.
C
If
you
notice
on
the
a
couple
of
pictures
back
with
the
sanctuary
on
the
side
with
the
church
van,
we
have
been.
Definitely
if
you
see
those
windows,
those
are
brand
new
windows
that
we've
been
able
to
install
and
it
has
helped
enhance
and
beautify
the
sanctuary
as
well.
I
wish
I
had
some
pictures
of
the
inside
that
we've
been
able
to
do
as
a
church,
but
I
have
several
members
that
are
here
with
us
that
have
helped
us
do
some
tremendous
work.
C
I
remember,
living
in
Lugoff,
South
Carolina,
and
there
was
a
Presbyterian
Church
on
highway,
34
right
down
the
street
from
Iron,
and
it
was
a
senior
Statesman,
a
senior
man
that
every
week
would
change
that
sign
manually,
and
that
was
six
years
ago.
I
rode
past
that
same
Presbyterian,
Church
the
other
day,
and
they
have
changed.
The
sign
no
longer
is
that
senior
Statesman,
which
he
I
mean
I
mean
quotes
out
of
this
world,
would
just
blow
your
mind,
touch
your
hearts.
A
C
Off
yeah,
we
will
set
the
time
I
mean
as
relates
to
if
it's
something
in
accordance
with
what
you
guys
need
us
to
do.
That
would
be
no
problem
with
doing
that
at
all,
and
even
with
the
information
that
we
will
be
placing
on
it,
it's
just
general
information.
Nothing
to
you
know,
keep
flashing
just
only
the
time
or
to
change
to
the
next
slide
to
the
next
slide.
H
I'm
very
sensitive,
create,
and
especially
in
a
neighborhood
like
that
and
my
own
home
is
adjacent
to
a
limited
professional
establishment
and
in
the
winter
time,
when
the
Sun
goes
down
early
and
people's
headlights
are
shining
in
my
window.
It's
annoying
and
I
would
think
the
same
thing
would
be
of
a
sign
like
that
that
nature
and
I
don't
know
the
only
reason.
The
only
way
I
could
really
kind
of
swallow.
This
is
if
you
could
adjust
the
on
and
off
absolutely
seasonally.
C
B
C
Definitely
was
a
pleasure
in
the
evenings.
Normally
we
have
choir
rehearsals
different
events
in
the
evening.
That
area
is
just
really
really
dark.
I
mean
really
dark.
We've
definitely
added
the
security
lights
that
have
helped
enhance
the
lighting
during
the
night
time
and
definitely
our
neighbor
Mr
Bush.
Unfortunately,
I
spoke
with
him
this
morning
and
definitely
he
was,
he
got
the
notice
and
he
was
excited,
gave
me
a
call
and
said:
Pastor
Will
man
I
got
a
letter
that
you
guys
are,
and
he
wanted
to
be
here
this
morning.
C
Just
wasn't
feeling
feeling
well
and
got
us
a
notice
about
you
guys
trying
to
get
a
sign.
He
said
well
about
time,
and
so
he
said
so,
whatever
I
need
to
do
to
support
that.
He
said
because
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
you
know
definitely
with
the
lights,
it
has
helped
us
right,
he's
right
next
door
on
the
left
of
us,
there's
a
white
fence
that
divides
us
right
there,
but
it's
right
there.
Yes
right
there,
that
has
helped.
C
You
know
just
brighten
up
his
area,
some
as
well
and
even
across
the
street,
those
those
vegetation.
Those
trees
really
had
blocks
any
other
light
cup.
You
know
from
coming
on
the
street
on
the
road,
so
it's
very
dark
right
in
front
of
on
the
main
road
and
even
on
the
side
and
I
think
that
would
also
you
know,
help
with
enhancement,
but
also
any
other
alerts
and
notifications.
We
need
to
give.
B
K
To
update
the
sign,
I
think
it's
certainly
for
a
good,
a
good
cause
that
you
want
to
broadcast
your
message
and
and
news
Etc
to
not
only
your
congregation
but
to
the
public
at
Large.
So
my
question:
it's
always,
however,
my
question
is:
where
are
you
at
with
this
sign
as
I'm
looking
at
here
sitting.
C
K
C
K
The
the
variance
to
having
a
reader
board
is
determined
upon
being
on
a
you
know,
major
artery
there,
traffic
I
mean
you're
at
55
percent
of
the
need
there,
2
700
trips
into
needing
five
thousand
I'm,
just
I'm
trying
to
get
creative
and
finding
a
way
I
I
hate
when
people
have
a
good
cause
and
have
jumped
into
something
that
is
far
from
having
been
approved.
So
this
would
be
a
lot
easier
working
with
you.
K
If
you
come
back,
if
you'd
been
here
maybe
six
months
ago,
and
we're
talking
about
what
kind
of
sign
can
you
have
right,
I
think
the
board
would
have
been
released.
I
would
have
been
very
willing
to
where
it
made
sense,
try
to
stretch
some
things
and
do
some
things
and
allow
you
to
get
some
stuff
done,
but
boy
what
you
got
now
is
a
tough
one
to
to
get
to
get
by,
at
least
at
least
on
my
behalf.
F
D
D
A
C
You
know
definitely
explaining
to
them
that
we're
just
we've
been
waiting
to
do
this
with
the
variants
and
all,
and
even
when
asking
I
think
when
we
asked
the
question
a
couple
of
months
about
a
month
or
so
ago
about
the
adjustments
that
the
thing
was
trying
to,
they
were
trying
to
just
keep
keep
their
promise
as
ways
to
their
contract.
As
relates
to
you
know:
we've
already
produced
it.
It's
there.
You
know
we
we
would
like
to
have
the
rest
of
our
money.
C
E
Mr
chairman,
before
I
found
out,
my
main
concern
was
the
size
of
the
sign,
because
I
knew
that
I
could
request.
If
I
made
a
motion
that
the
lights
come
off
and
on
at
a
certain
time,
yeah
but
and
I
know,
our
decisions
are
not
supposed
to
be
based
on
any
Financial
reasons.
They
have
a
sign
that
works.
F
C
C
C
I
C
K
Done
to
my
fellow
board
members
saying
I
having
dabbled
in
the
signed
business.
That
is
a
responsibility
now,
whether
that's
was
written
in
writing.
That
is
a
contractual
responsibility,
but
but
I
I,
don't
really
think
you're
in
as
big
a
pickle,
as
you
think
you
are
I
mean
you
can
commit
the
money
that
you've
made
it's
a
four
by
eight
can
I've
made
millions
of
them,
they
can
use
that
can
if
it's
made
for
something
else,
you
know
if
there's
some
specific
graphics
on
on
plexiglass.
You
know
your
top
part.
K
It's
not
a
your
your,
however.
The
size
configuration
of
the
reader
board
that's
been
made
that
those
can
be
pieced
into
other
signs,
so
I,
don't
think
you're
trying
to
I,
don't
think
you're
stuck
with
lost
money.
The
money
just
needs
to
be
redirected
with
the
the
the
city's
Dr.
You
know
directives
here
in
terms
of
how
and
to
get
it
a
lot
closer.
What
it
needs
to
look
like.
Okay,
generic
cans
of
that
are
four
by
eight
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
free
stand.
That's
that's!
K
K
I
A
F
K
E
K
K
A
B
H
F
D
F
A
A
I
Chairman
I
would
say
probably
to
help
guide
them.
The
talking
points
sound
like
the
negotiation
of
the
lease
points,
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
conversation
they
can
have
to
modify
the
design
based
on
their
agreement.
It
would
be
worth
investigating
that,
and
perhaps
at
that
time
they
can
address
what
light
noise
can
be
modified.
C
K
K
A
sign
sitting
on
a
on
a
stub
pedestal
like
that
is
not
aesthetically,
I
mean
and
it
costs
nothing
to
lay
out.
What's
quote
unquote
of
Monument
you
could
just
literally
I,
don't
know
you
can
you
can
lay
out
a
a
a
a
mini
little
brick
thing
and
just
sit
the
can
on
it
and
that's
another
variance.
You
don't
have
to
worry
about
and
it
looks
better
on
top.
C
G
A
B
A
O
O
I
wanted
to
point
out
in
the
you
can
see
on
this
slide
in
the
100
block
the
to
the
north,
which
is
right
up
if
I
get
the
laser
there.
It
is.
This
is
the
block
to
this
is
the
subject:
property
and
right
up
here
on
the
hundred
block.
You'll
see
these.
These
are
historic
buildings
early
20th
century,
which
have
a
similar
setback
to
what's
being
requested.
O
The
lot
one
on
the
corner
and
I'll
zoom
in
this
okay,
the
property
on
the
corner,
has
a
commercial
structure
which
is
to
be
removed.
The
second
law
is
currently
undeveloped.
The
third
lot
I
had
the
report
says
undeveloped,
but
actually
there's
a
portion
of
another
commercial
structure
in
the
back
corner
and
that's
also
to
be
removed.
O
B
O
O
O
O
The
the
lot
is
the
first
slot
is
60
foot
wide
by
74
foot
deep
and
the
others
are
50
foot
wide
by
the
same
depth
and
on
on
this
one
lot,
three,
the
the
mitered
corner
there
has
actually
been
squared
off
now.
So
there's
a
newer
plot
that
was
recorded
last
year.
It's
it's
more
of
a
square
shape.
Now
it's
a
little
different
there,
but
the
first
lot
size
is
about
44
65
square
feet.
So
it's
about
a
thousand
square
foot
larger
than
the
minimum
lot
size.
O
O
O
O
B
O
O
A
O
O
D
O
It's
actually
the
same
for
the
front
yard,
20
foot,
lr10,
rear
yard,
20
of
the
lot
depth,
not
two
seed
50
feet.
Now.
One
thing
you
can
do
if
you
have
an
existing.
If
you
have
existing
buildings
along
the
block,
you
can
average
with
those
existing
houses,
so
that
helps
you
if
the
other
houses
are
already
up
close
historically,
you
can
put
a
new
house
in
in
between
that
would
be
along
with
that
line.
O
H
D
I,
don't
know
that
there
was
an
established
building
line
on
that
particular
lot
in
that
I'm
questioning
right
now.
It
just
appears
that
the
home
that
was
moved
there
and
I
think
it
came
before
this
board
regarding
setbacks
and
so
forth
that
it
appears
without
pulling
a
tape
or
looking
at
a
plaid
or
anything
like
that.
It
appears
that
that
home
is
closer
to
the
street
than
say
the
duly
constructed
homes
to
the
south.
Of
that.
F
D
B
K
O
O
K
K
K
See
it
again,
I
don't
know,
I
saw
it
in
the
photo.
I
just
saw
it
on
the
property,
so
I
was
curious,
where
the
actual
property
line
was
but
looks
like
the
applicant
definitely
can
be
able
to
tell
me
that,
as
to
board
member
cowards,
that
I
I
did
put
a
tape
on
that
house
bud
and
it
was
not
quite
19
feet
from
the
street,
considering
the
property
lines
at
least
a
few
feet
in
from
there.
That
was
probably
more
like,
maybe
15
feet
or
so,
but
it
wasn't
10..
K
K
P
O
K
P
P
We
purchased
this
property
about
eight
years
ago
and
had
originally
spoken
with
Ryan
Bland,
who
of
course,
is
no
longer
with
the
city
and
started
the
process,
and
then
life
and
two
children
happened.
So
we
have
not
built
yet.
But
to
answer
your
question,
the
survey
pin
is
actually
right
on
the
corner
of
the
fence
and
the
fence
is
in
line
with
the
fence
that
goes
down
the
property
of
the
Horse
farm
next
to
us
adjacent
to
us,
and
the
tape
on
that
is
14
feet
to
the
street.
K
P
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K
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P
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K
K
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From
roof,
Eves,
okay,
yeah,
okay,
I
mean,
and
it
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
house
is
dead
straight
on
the
lot
it
appears
like.
Maybe
it
angles
a
little
bit
towards
the
concrete
block
structure
in
lot,
one
that
we're
taking
down,
but
without
trespassing
on
their
property.
We
can't
quite
verify
that
we
have
knocked
on
the
door
in
total
about
six
times
over
the
course
of
three
past
years.
We
have
never
been
able
to
get
anyone
to
come
to
the
door.
L
L
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I
mean
we
are
so
I'm
an
interior
designer
with
a
construction
background,
I
own
bespoke,
fine
Interiors.
It's
been
11
years
this
year
in
the
city
of
Aitkin.
My
husband
is
a
partner
in
industrial
Contracting,
firm
based
out
of
Alpharetta
Georgia,
and
when
we
bought
this
property,
you
know
our
our
idea
was
to
put
Cottages
that
were
cogent
with
the
historic
Aiken
style
and
so
we've
in
the
extra
time
we've
had
to
think
about
this
development.
P
L
P
P
P
P
P
We're
required
to
have
two
off-street
parking
spaces
and
with
the
setback
already
set
on
the
street
and
the
additional
10
feet,
we'll
have
plenty
of
room
to
bring
two
cars
off
and
so
we're
thinking
we
prefer
gravel
over
over
pavement.
So
you
know
we're
thinking
a
gravel
parking
area
with
Landscaping.
I
P
P
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K
K
K
K
B
B
I
O
A
L
I
I
P
Since
you
know,
our
thought
was
the
15
feet
in
the
back
to
allow,
for
you
know,
fire
access,
but
the
actual
setback
requirement
is
10..
So
if
you're
more
comfortable
with
us
having
12
in
the
front
which
12
is
a
standard
depth
for
a
parking
space,
you
know
an
e-standard
parking
space.
If
you're
more
comfortable
with
that,
then
you
know
we
could
accept.
12
I
mean
you
know.
The
goal
is
to
give
the
most
room
to
the
dilapidated
house.
Yeah.
B
P
B
P
K
D
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F
O
D
K
K
O
O
We
need
it's
nine
by
18.
I,
don't
see
any
historic
parking
on
Williamsburg
Street.
You
know
some
downtown
areas.
We
have
parking
on
the
street,
but
I
don't
see
any
here.
Do
you
want
to,
instead
of
them
maybe
having
to
come
back
for
another
variants?
Do
you
want
to
make
sure
we
can
get
parking
on
these
Lots?
O
O
B
D
I
O
K
K
K
F
K
P
P
I
And-
and
you
do
you
know
logistically
right,
I'm
speaking
from
experience
with
clients
who
we've
gone
through
due
diligence
with
certain
properties
and
not
that
you're
making
assumptions,
but
we
essentially
like
that.
You
know
historically
how
the
parking
was
occurring
on
like
Ori
and
other
places
right
and
we
found
out.
There
was
actually
a
conflict
where
people
like.
I
Oh
it's
two
wheels
on
the
greenway
you're
fine
as
long
as
you're
off
the
main
road,
if
it
was
say
spillover
from
the
main
area,
I
just
to
be
efficient
and
not
approve,
and
then
you
guys
find
out.
Okay,
we've
submitted
our
plans
and
then
it
gets
flagged
because
you've
got
vehicles
that
one
department
is
saying
like
Public
Safety
might
be
like
if
you're,
if
you're,
if
you're
parking
this
way
we're
gonna
ticket
you
but
you've
had
approval.
You
know
I,
just
I.
I
F
I
Well,
and
and
again,
my
concern
is,
if
you
submitted
site
plans
and
then
find
out
that
there's
some
sort
of
stipulation
of
permitting
that
type
of
parking,
and
you
find
out
after
the
fact
that
so
I
didn't
know.
If
officially
you'd
spoken
to
somebody
in
either
engineering
or
planning
to
say
here's
our
parking
need.
Are
we
in
compliance.
I
P
I
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L
F
K
M
K
I
guess
be
crystal
clear
on
what
the
exact
parking
requirement
is.
There
seems
to
be,
and
maybe
a
little
nebulous
nail
down
with
the
city,
the
appropriate
Department,
what
that
is,
and
then
how
you're
going
to
do
it
with
that
come
back,
then
I
think
we
can
pretty
easily
figure
out
the
best
setback
type
of
situation
for
you.