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Board of Zoning Appeals
October 25, 2022
5:30 PM
Call to Order
Minutes
Old Business:
Final Orders
New Business:
A) App 23- 93002 —Variance request from James & Cora Cunningham to
permit an accessory apartment at 230 Chesterfield St. N. Zoned RMH.
TPN: 120- 17- 15- 010.
B) App 23- 93004 —Variance request from Richard & Lisa Glass to permit a
detached garage at 108 Antietam Drive SW. Zoned RS- 15. TPN: 123-
10- 05- 020.
Adjournment
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F
F
230
Chesterfield
Street
North
is
located
on
an
approximately
0.1
acre
parcel
on
the
east
side
of
Chesterfield
Street
North
between
Edgefield
Avenue
Northeast
to
the
north
and
Barnwell
Avenue
Northeast
to
the
South.
The
property
is
located
on
the
north
side
of
Aiken
and
is
zoned
residential
multi-family
high
density
RMH.
F
F
Pursuant
to
section
341a,
one
accessory
apartment
per
lot
may
be
permitted
in
a
residential
district
in
accordance
with
the
use
tables
and
chapter
3,
Article
1
and
Section
341
of
the
zoning
ordinance
section.
341A1
of
the
zordoning
ordinance
states
that
to
permit
an
accessory
Apartment,
A
Lot
must
have
an
area
of
at
least
10
000
square
feet
and
a
width
of
at
least
75
square
feet.
F
However,
the
footprint
of
the
proposed
structure
is
24
by
36
totaling,
864
square
feet,
or
only
62
percent
of
the
growth
floor
area
of
the
principal
dwelling.
That's
sort
of
indicated
here
on
this
details
sheet
that
was
provided
by
the
applicant,
because
the
structure
is
one
and
a
half
stories.
There
is
a
cumulative
square
footage
here,
however,
the
footprint
itself
is
is
only
864
square
feet,
which
is
62
percent
of
the
gross
floor
area.
F
Section
342-d
states
that
the
height
of
an
accessory
building
may
not
be
more
than
the
primary
building
on
the
lot.
That's
according
to
Ordinance
one
zero,
two
four:
two:
zero
zero
five
b
and
zero
one
one,
two:
two:
zero
zero:
nine,
the
proposed
one
and
a
half
story
structure,
as
previously
mentioned,
will
be
approximately
22
feet,
10
inches
in
height
and
that,
as
the
applicant
has
stated,
would
likely
exceed
the
height
of
the
single
story.
F
Principle
dwelling
on
the
lot
information
provided
by
the
applicant
about
the
site
plan
and
proposed
dimensions
of
the
apartment
this
contained
in
exhibit
B
of
your
agenda
packet.
This
is
a
site
plan
that
was
a
survey
that
was
submitted
by
the
applicant
on
the
left
here.
This
is
the
primary
structure
and
the
proposed
location
and
dimensions
of
the
accessory
apartment.
F
As
indicated
by
the
submitted
plans,
the
accessory
Department
meets
setback
requirements
which
is
10
feet
on
all
sides.
It
would
be
10
feet
from
the
Southern
Property
Line
10
feet
from
the
eastern
and
16
from
the
northern
property
line
addition,
it
meets
all
minimum
building
separation
and
off-street
parking
requirements.
F
In
addition,
the
applicant
has
stated
that
this,
the
design
of
the
apartment
will
match
the
primary
structure
and
will
replace
an
existing
older
accessory
storage
shed
on
the
lot
in
an
effort
to
increase
the
amount
of
living
space
on
the
property
and
to
improve
the
aesthetic
character
of
the
property
and
neighborhood.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
here
on
the
survey
that
there
is
an
existing
structure
here
and
that
will
be
removed.
F
This
is
the
site
plan
of
the
excuse
me.
The
building
plan
for
the
proposed
structure
just
indicating
the
dimensions
and
the
proposed
I
guess
plan
where
the
kitchen
and
all
the
the
different
rooms
will
be,
and
then
this
this
one
on
the
right
here
is
the
the
it's
more
or
less
a
finished
attic.
But
that's
the
second
story,
floor
plan
or
half
story
floor
plan.
F
This
is
a
rendering
of
the
proposed
structure.
It's
my
understanding
that
this
was
provided
by
the
company
that
fabricates
these
structures,
but
that
will
be
approximately
what
it
would
look
like
once
completed.
F
F
F
F
F
Generally
speaking,
the
surrounding
properties
are
privately
owned
and
are
utilized
as
single-family
Residential
Properties
on
this
side
of
the
block
and
office
space
on
this
side
here,
County
records
indicate
a
number
of
pre-existing
accessory
apartments
in
the
area,
including
in
excess.
Excuse
me,
680
square
foot,
accessory
department
at
240,
Chesterfield,
a
722
square
foot
accessory
apartment
at
229,
York
Street
and
a
735
square
foot
accessory
apartment
at
239,
York,
so
I
believe
this
building
here,
two
properties
to
the
north.
F
This
one
and
this
one
are
all
listed
assessed
by
the
county
as
accessory.
Detached
structures
of
varying
sizes
exhibit
D
of
your
agenda.
Packet
contains
photographs
of
the
property
taken
by
staff
depicting
the
existing
conditions
of
the
property,
as
well
as
the
distance
between
the
proposed
apartment
and
the
nearest
residential
home.
This
is
just
a
picture
of
the
front
of
the
structure,
the
primary
structure,
with
our
notice
there
on
the
bottom
corner.
F
F
This
is
looking
East
on
the
north
side
of
the
property
to
illustrate
the
the
building
separation
between
the
applicant's
property.
Excuse
me,
applicants
primary
structure
and
the
neighboring
property
to
the
back.
Here
is
the
accessory
structure
that
will
be
removed
and
replaced
by
that
accessory
apartment.
It
wouldn't
align
quite
with
this
oops
as
depicted
by
this.
It
would
be
considerably
it
would
look
like
it
would
align
more
or
less
with
the
the
footprint
of
the
existing
structure.
F
So
it
would,
you
know,
kind
of
align
right
in
here
and
this
would
be
removed,
and
this
is
just
one
final
picture
to
illustrate
the
separation
between
the
applicant's
home
and
the
adjacent
Property
Owners
home
to
the
South,
so
yeah
planning
staff's
evaluation
of
the
requests,
as
well
as
the
applicant's
response
to
the
required
six
variance
criteria
can
be
found,
starting
at
page
two
of
the
agenda
packet.
F
This
concludes
staff's
presentation.
If
there
are
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them.
A
G
G
F
Be
yeah,
I,
don't
know
this.
The
exact
height
I
assume
that
it's
it's
a
single
story
structure,
so
I
think
those
are
generally
top
out
of
that
maybe
16
feet.
The
applicant
might
be
able
to
speak
about
exactly
how
tall
the
primary
structure
is,
but
County
records.
Don't
have
that
information
and
yeah,
it
wasn't
wasn't
provided
I,
don't
think
it
will
be
a
whole
lot
taller,
but
it
will
will
exceed
that
height.
A
F
Right,
that's
correct,
yeah
and
that
was
included
basically
just
to
account
for
any
any
height
difference.
I,
don't
believe
it
will
be
considerably
higher.
The
applicant
might
know
exactly
how
tall
their
the
the
primary
structure
is.
I
mean
it
could
be
20
feet
and
it's
a
two
foot
difference,
but
that
that
information
wasn't
supplied
to
us
and
I
wasn't
able
to
find
that
record,
but
I
don't
believe
it
will
be
much
taller.
F
It's
it's
a
one
and
a
half
story
structure.
So
it's
really
just
kind
of
like
a
finished
Attic
in
a
sense.
E
I
City,
are
you
aware,
aside
from
the
other,
existing
similar
structures?
Are
there
any
historically
previous
variances
that
have
been
granted
for
this
type
of.
F
As
far
as
I
know,
these
this
is
a
fairly
atypical
request.
Given
the
the
size
of
the
property
I
mean
it
is,
you
are
allowed
an
accessory
apartment
on
your
on
your
property
by
right
as
long
as
there's
it
meets
the
certain
qualifications.
But
this
is
an
older
piece
of
property.
I
mean
it's
a
part
of
an
older
neighborhood,
so
essentially,
all
of
these
existing
I
don't
believe
that
these
were
ever
granted
variances.
These
are
all
kind
of
pre-existing
structures
that
were
in
place
prior
to
the
current
iteration
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
F
When
regulations
were
a
little
bit
different
to
my
knowledge
that
none
of
these
have
been
granted
variances
I
mean
I
have
had
people
inquire
about
this.
Before
to
my
knowledge,
you
know
there
haven't
been
any
recent
applications
for
this
type
of
request,
but
yeah
again,
I
think
it's
it's
the
the
specific
nature
of
the
property.
Given
that
the
how
you
know
small
it
is
that's
unique
about
the
situation.
These
again
are
oops.
Sorry.
F
I
Current
iteration
of
the
zoning
ordinance,
okay,
the
only
other
question
I
had
was.
Can
you
tell
me
if
the
operation
of
airbnbs
are
permitted
in
the
RMA.
F
Airbnbs
are
not
permitted
in
RB.
Excuse
me,
RMH,
they
are
considered
a
residential
district
and
that
is
a
commercial
use
under
our
current
iteration
of
the
the
zoning
ordinance.
Now
it's
my
understanding
that
that
is
currently
being
reviewed,
but
currently
it
is
considered
a
commercial
use.
Short-Term
rental
is
30
days
or
less,
which
is
a
commercial
use.
According
to
our
zoning
ordinance,
which
would
not
be
permitted
by
right
with
with
in
that
District.
Now
they
could
rent
it
out
for
long-term
rental
30
days
or
more
but
yeah.
G
G
One
additional
question
for
the
city:
the
under
341a3.
G
G
F
G
B
H
You
reference
two
or
three
other
from
a
residence
residences
in
that
area.
Yes,.
B
H
And
but
you
reference
the
square
footage
of
the
accessory
Apartments.
H
Is
that
square
footage,
or
is
that
do
you
know
if
that's
total
heated
I'm
trying
to
compare
apples
to
apples
here?
So
what
you
quoted
here
is
that
the
footprint
of
the
other
apartment
accessory
buildings,
it's
a
little
heated
area.
It's.
F
So
unless
it's
on
incorrectly
assessed
based
on
the
counties
how
they
tax
the
property,
it's
not
always
the
footprint
I
mean
some
of
these
could
be
taller,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
those
numbers
come
from
the
County's
assessment
of
the
accessory
structures,
which
includes
all
heated
square
footage.
Okay,.
J
My
name
is
Corey
Cunningham
and
I'm.
Speaking
on
the
request
of
the
variances
for
230
Chesterfield,
Street,
North,
Aiken,
South
Carolina,
and
to
address
some
of
your
questions
when
we
measured
the
height
of
our
house,
we
hadn't
done
that
before
we
submitted
this
appeal
packet,
but
it's
19
feet
8
inches,
so
it's
I
guess
maybe
we
don't
even
need
that
variance
if
you
don't
have
to
have
it
for
more
than
three
and
a
half
feet,
because
the
proposed
structure-
well,
it's
very
close.
At
any
rate,
the
proposed
structure
is
22..
J
My
my
parents
are
getting
older
and
my
father
actually
underwent
open
heart
surgery
and
had
some
severe
complications
and
I
was
there
for
several
months
in
the
midwest,
taking
care
of
them
and
I
realized
that
we
aren't
really
prepared
to
take
care
of
my
parents
if
they
get
to
a
point
where
they
need
to
spend
more
time
with
us,
and
so
that
is
why
we
wanted
to
build
this
apartment
and
that's
why
it's
the
size
that
it
is
because
I
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
with
my
dad.
J
Looking
at
different
plans
and
trying
to
see
what
would
be
tolerable
for
a
couple
to
live
in
or
spend
time
there,
the
really
small
500
square
feet
or
less
just
I
didn't
I,
don't
know
they.
They
weren't
very
persuaded
by
that.
J
So
that
and
I'm
a
nurse
and
I
I,
don't
know
I've
just
spent
my
life
taking
care
of
people
and
I
would
like
to
have
this
opportunity
to
build
this
and
be
able
to
take
care
of
my
parents
and
I.
Also,
we
don't
have
any
plans
on
moving.
J
We
really
like
living
here,
and
so
we
would
like
to
you
know,
have
an
apartment
that
maybe
is
a
little
less
to
keep
up
with
or
than
our
current
house
I
know
on
this
there's
a
chimney,
but
I
don't
think
we
would
actually
be
including
that,
let's
see,
do
y'all
have
any
other
questions
or
is
there
I've
included
quite
pretty
much?
All
of
that
in
the
packet
question.
J
No,
we
wouldn't
include
the
chimney.
We
wouldn't
include
the
fireplace
I
think
to
stay
in
this
home
and
to
stay
in
this
neighborhood
and
to
be
able
to
have
a
place
that
my
parents
could
come
to
or
that
family
could
stay
in
for
longer
periods
of
time,
we've
really
at
500
square
feet
or
just
that
small
is
pretty
difficult
to
tolerate
I.
Think
our
house
right
now
looks
pretty
much
like
this
one,
except
we
don't
have
a
finished
attic
I
guess
we
could
renovate
our
attic
or
try
to
you
see.
J
There's
the
window
at
the
top
I
know,
I.
Think
the
house
next
to
us
is
not
the
same
footprint
but
they've
done
a
finished,
Attic
So
I,
guess
that
would
increase
our
square
footage,
but
you
know
I
get
we
we
haven't
looked
into
that,
but
I
think
that's.
The
biggest
difference
is
that
this
Attic
in
our
house
currently
is
unfinished
in
in
this
house.
It
would
be
used
as
a
living
space,
Mr
chairman.
I
I
had
a
question
sure
how'd
you
considered
possibly
adding
on
to
your
house
as
opposed
to
building
a
separate
structure
and
and
and
the
reason
I
ask-
is
I'm
my
dad's
84.
I'm,
taking
into
consideration
similar
things
and
my
thought.
Although
I
love,
the
cottage
proposal
is
If,
he
if
he
does
fall
ill,
he
has
to
go
upstairs
and
my
thought
immediately
was
like.
Well,
how
do
we
get
him
there.
D
I
There's
any
sort
of
issue
there
and
I
was
just
curious.
If
we
would
have
to
you
know,
an
addition
on
a
home
would
be
potentially
a
different
I
hadn't
looked
into
that
part
of
the
ordinance,
but
I
wondered
if
that
was
potentially
a
consideration
to
allow
a
single
level
living
for
the
ease
of
yourself
and.
C
J
Don't
know
Integrity
of
the
home
without
like
gutting
it,
and
you
know
just
completely
tearing
it
apart
and
redoing
it,
and
so
we'd
like
to
I
mean
we
have
plans
to
maybe
try
to
continue
to
keep
the
laugh
and
plaster
and
keep
the
history
of
the
home.
And
so
that's
why
we
wanted
initially
to
have
the
detached
space.
Also
because
I'm
hoping
my
parents
will
come
kind
of
stay
for
longer
periods
over
the
next
few
years
and
I
think
everyone's
a
little
happier
when
you
have
kind
of
your
own
space.
J
Is
my
my
plan.
Don't
tell
them.
I
I
Yeah
I
was
just
curious
as
far
as
if
there
was
a
way
to
accomplish
the
footprint
that
you
need,
because,
as
we've
discussed,
just
briefly
in
our
questions
is
that
jump
from
35
to
82
right
is
significant,
even
though
aesthetically
and
in
principle
I
get
it
yeah.
I
was
just
curious.
If
that
was
an
Avenue,
that
you
had.
J
Sure
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point.
I
would
say,
as
you
were
looking
at
the
other
surrounding
structures
in
the
area
and
the
other
multiple
homes
in
the
area
that,
with
the
coming
of
time,
I
hope.
The
zoning
board
does
allow
people
to
make
improvements
in
the
neighborhood
I
feel
like
the
neighborhood
has
changed.
J
We
moved
here
in
2015,
but
it
just
it
feels
like
there's
a
lot
of
younger
people
that
have
moved
in
it's
affordable,
housing
in
Aitkin
and
it's
close
to
the
downtown,
which
is
really
you
know,
kind
of
unique
and
wonderful.
So,
hopefully,
people
can
continue
to
improve
and
you
know
make
changes
on
existing
structures
so
that
that
neighborhood
will
continue
to
thrive.
I
J
No,
no,
but
so
the
picture
has
steps
going
up
to
the
house,
but
the
plan
says
it's
a
slab
house
and
when,
if
we
actually
get
to
build
the
home
I'm
not
plant,
we
weren't
planning
on
having
the
porch,
because
that
I
think
would
look
kind
of
strange,
so
I
imagine
a
slab
home
means
you're
on
the
cement.
You
don't
have
steps
so
I.
J
J
It
just
makes
the
most
sense
to
try
to
get
permission
to
see
if
this
is
even
possible
before
we
take
up
a
lot
of
anybody
else's
time,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
would
have
steps
or
that
porch
or
the
chimney.
So
those
are
three
things
that
I'm
not
planning
but
we're
not
planning
on
having
as
part
of
the
actual,
then.
J
Well,
I
guess
it
does
say
36
feet
and
the
porch
would
take
some
foot
off.
It
would
take
some
space
off
of
that
and
you
know
if
it
would
I
don't
know
it's
possible
to
didn't
hire
someone
to
I,
got
plans
offline
and
looked
at
them
and
but
I
haven't
had
someone
draw
them
up
or
you
know
for
for
a
builder
yet
so
if,
if
that
would
you
know
make
a
difference,
we
could
definitely
do
that
and
do
this
again.
Maybe.
H
Those
stairs
on
the
back
I
see
the
front
steps.
Oh.
J
Going
upstairs
yeah
yeah
there
still
would
be
stairs
to
a
second
room,
so
my
thought
about
that
was.
If,
if
my
parents
got
to
a
place
as
many
people
do,
if
you
get
to
a
place
where
you
can't
go
upstairs
and
you
have
a
two-story
home,
you
move
a
bed
into
the
living
room
and
that
becomes
where
you
live,
and
that
becomes
where
you
take
care
of
a
person.
J
There's
a
bathroom
there,
it's
a
half
bath,
there's
the
kitchen,
so
I
mean
I
hope
we
don't
I
hope
you
know
I
hope
that
doesn't
become
a
thing
for
my
parents.
My
dad's
been
doing
cardiac
rehab
for
a
year
and
he's
doing
really
really
well,
but
just
that
event
made
me
realize
that
you
know
we're
reaching
a
point
where
I
I
want
to
be
prepared.
J
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
my
parents
need
me
and
I
I
can't
help
them
really
or
or
that
they
come
and
it's
you
know
just
difficult
I
guess:
I'm
trying
to
be
prepared,
I
think
because
I'm,
a
nurse
and
I
see
this
happen
to
people
all
the
time.
I'm
just
want
to
be
prepared
if
I
can't
be,
and
my
husband
Jim
is
very
supportive-
and
you
know
very
nice
I
guess
to
understand
that.
G
Yes,
Miss
Cunningham,
so
the
challenge
for
me,
I,
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
the
board,
is
you're.
Looking
for
the
trifecta
of
variances,
so
you're
looking
for
three
of
them
well,.
J
G
I
I
certainly
think
there's
compelling
you
know
need
to
waver
that
to
allow
you
some
sort
of
accessory
building.
C
G
Certainly
precedent
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I
I
have
don't
have
a
huge
problem
with
that,
the
the
the
size
of
the
accessory
building
in
terms
of
overall
living
area
when
compared
to
your
principal
residence
and,
of
course,
that
ties
into
the
third
variance
getting
up
height,
wise
and
that
those
are
the
those
are
the
challenges
for
me.
So
have
you
looked
at
a
more
of
a
one?
You
know
something
that
would
drop
you.
G
J
C
J
So
maybe
I
guess
you
know
I
think
one
way
to
deal
with
that
maybe
would
be
to
have
just
a
downstairs
and
the
possibility
of
finishing
an
attic
is
a
bedroom
later
is
I'm
is
that
that
would
only
be
two
variances,
I
guess
or
maybe
just
one
and
then
I
also
pointed
out
I
think
I
know
it
is
three
variances
but
I
think
that
it's
going
to
improve
the
area
because
there's
a
basically
a
derelict
shed.
That's
there
right.
C
J
J
So
if
we,
if
we
don't
pass
today,
I
guess
we
would
come
back
and
not
ask
for
the
height
variance,
because
I
don't
think
we
need
it.
So
then
it
would
just
be
two
variances
for
the
lot
size
and
the
size
of
the
structure.
I
have
taught
I
have
looked
at
smaller,
just
kind
of
500
square,
Footprints,
they're,
just
so
they're,
just
very
small
to
actually
live
in
for
fast
Airbnb,
rentals
and
whatnot.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
J
I
know
people
do
that
with
Airbnb,
because
you're
just
there,
it's
kind
of
like
a
hotel
room
and
it's
nice,
but
just
moving
forward
in
the
future.
If
you're
not
wanting
people
to
have
like
Airbnb
and
this
kind
of
area.
Next
to
the
downtown,
where
it's
very
desirable
and
easy
to
rent
out
I
think
reconsidering,
maybe
the
priorities
would
be
advantageous
for
the
city,
because
you
know
again:
500
square
feet
is
not
a
very
nice
thing
to
ask
people
to
live
in.
G
G
J
K
Mrs
Cunningham:
do
you
have
any
plans
or
to
rent
this
for
soup?
No.
J
We
do
not
yeah,
we
don't
have
any
plans
to
rent
it
out.
I
know
there
are
airbnbs
in
our
area,
but
my
husband
and
I
both
work
full
time.
We
don't
really
want
to
have
to
manage
that
and
we
don't
really
want
to
have
to
change
our
existing
home
to
make
it
larger
and
we
would
like
to
have
something
separate
so
that
when
people
come
stay,
it's
just
a
nicer
experience.
So.
J
I
Bit
of
a
hybrid
question,
if
you
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
with
Mr
Witter,
for
example,
and
from
a
aesthetic
design
standpoint,
could
somehow
marry
the
two
buildings
as
a
connection,
yet
independent
I,
wonder
if
there's
space
for
that-
and
this
is
where
it
kind
of
hybrids
back
to
the
city.
Does
that
then
steer
into
rerouting
whatever
those
potential
design
without
I
understand?
If
you
get
to
a
draftsman
and
architect,
you're
spending
money
before
you
know,
right
right
possible.
I
F
F
However,
the
the
ordinance
does
not
limit
the
size
of
a
primary
structure
on
the
on
the
lot.
Unless
there's
you
know,
irrespective
unless
it
conflicts
with
the
setback
requirements,
so.
F
H
So
what
I
hear
is
that
if
there
was
a
breezeway
between
the
primary
house
and
this
building
here
connected
as
one
that
would
be
considered,
assuming
they
meet
all
the
setback,
requirements
that
would
meet
then
building
code
requirements,
Etc
et
cetera,
without
having
to
come
back
and
yet
ask
for
something
else.
Right.
F
Way
of
a
variance,
that's
my
understanding,
yeah.
As
long
as
it
com
conforms
to
building
code
requirements,
yeah
the
zoning
ordinance
doesn't
regulate
the
size
of
the
primary
structure
on
the
lot
outside
of
setback
requirements.
So,
if
it's
connected
to
the
primary
structure,
it's
in
essence,
part
of
the
primary
structure.
J
Yes,
I
have
a
question
too
well,
can
you
have
a
kitchen
and
everything
is
there
any
because
we
talked
about
that
actually,
but
it
seemed
like
do
you
remember?
Was
it
here
or
did
somebody
just
tell
us
I,
don't
know
that
you
had
there
were
like
limitations
on
what
could
be
in
the
in
your
your
addition
to
your
home,
like
it
can't
be
a
second
kitchen.
Is
that
true,
or
do
you
know,
I.
F
Do
not
know
that
would
be
a
building
code.
Question
I
mean
certainly
not
for
bathrooms
and
and
living
space
additional
living
rooms.
I,
don't
know
if
having
the
additional
kitchen
unit
classifies
as
a
separate
dwelling
unit
right.
F
B
J
It
could
be
like
more
just
like
a
another
bedroom
as
I
understand
it.
I
could
be
wrong.
I
didn't
you
know,
but
as
I
understood
it
it
there's.
There's
limitations
on
that
I
believe,
because
I
think
I
think
to
keep
people
maybe
from
building
another
house
with
a
Breezeway
I,
don't
know
I
could
be
wrong,
but
because.
J
Right
right,
one
yeah-
we
talked
about
that
with
like
some
kind
of,
and
it
has
the
the
the
Breezeway
has
to
be
enclosed
and
it
has
to
be
heated.
You
know,
I
believe,
is
that
right,
yeah,
because
we
we
have
been
I,
mean
I.
Honestly,
I
know
that
you're
just
meeting
me,
but
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
several
years
so
and
we've
it's
it's
been
going
on
for
quite
a
while.
J
But
the
thing
that
I
think
kind
of
spurred
us
to
this
point
is
just
realizing
that
you
know
everyone's
getting
older
and
and
building
takes
quite
a
while
and
so
right.
So
we
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
different
possibilities,
because
the
law
is
small.
The
house
is
small,
but
we
really
don't
want
to
have
to
move
because
I
I
mean
it's
just
nice
to
ride
my
bike
to
the
grocery
store
and
you
know,
walk
around
downtown.
It's
pretty
pretty
amazing.
H
H
C
K
J
So
if
we
so
you're
saying
if
we
expanded
the
home
rather
than
ask
for
an
apartment,
that
that's
what
you
all
are
talking
about,
yes,.
A
I
And
mostly
just
to
State
again
that
I
I
think
in
essence
it's
I
love
everything
about
it.
Aesthetically
the
purpose
I
personally
can't
check
the
boxes
for
all
the
variance
criteria
and
I
would
like
to
strongly
encourage
the
applicant
to
revisit
with
planning
and
with
their
Builder
and
see
if
there
are
some
other
options
that
may
in
the
end,
bode
well
for
the
use,
especially
with
a
single
story,
could
probably
function
better.
I
Looking
ahead
for
accessibility
issues,
I
don't
want
to
deter
the
the
ultimate
goal
at
all,
but
I
I
really
want
them
to
come,
become.
I
I
And
I'm
just
not
sure
if
a
two-story
in
the
end,
if
again
understanding
things
can
happen
and
when
you've
had
a
a
health
issue
and
a
family
member,
you
know
anything
can
happen
and
you
can
break
a
hip
and
still
have
an
issue
and
then
you've
got
to
navigate
stairs
and
bring
the
bed
downstairs
and
I
understand.
All
of
that.
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
a
better
way
to
not
set
a
precedent
but
also
accommodate
the
applicant
and
their
situation.
G
Yeah
I
would
say
I'm
in
agreement
with
those
comments
again,
I
think
it's
a
noble
effort
and
I.
Am
there
there's
room
in
there
to
help
them
work?
G
Something
out,
I
think
their
first
attempt
they
is,
is
kind
of
a
nice
to
have
and
a
beautiful
looking
thing
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
meat
on
this
bone
that
you
guys
can
get
into
with
resizing
and
and
giving
us
a
little
more
ability
to
Grant
some
way,
eliminate
a
waiver
or
two
and
then
give
you
small,
small
ability
and
leeways
to
get
around
some
of
the
other
variances.
C
A
A
A
A
F
We
have,
there
should
be
an
additional
package.
There
were
some
additional
comments
received
after
the
application
packet
was
sent
out.
So
there's
a
separate
group
of
comments
also
in
front
of
you.
B
F
F
The
request
is
for
a
variance
to
zoning
ordinance,
section
342e
to
permit
a
detached
garage,
approximately
1
360
square
feet
in
area
on
the
property,
pursuant
to
section
342e
of
the
zoning
ordinance
all
accessory
buildings
on
a
lot
may
not
exceed
50
percent
of
the
heated
gross
floor
area
of
the
principal
building
based
on
the
size
of
the
primary
residence
on
the
property.
Compliance
with
the
zoning
ordinance
would
require
that
the
total
square
footage
of
all
accessory
buildings
not
exceed
1133
square
feet,
thus
requiring
a
variance.
F
The
applicant
has
stated
that
the
proposed
structure
will
will
comply
with
all
other
requirements
of
section
342
of
the
zoning
ordinance
regarding
accessory
structures,
including
setback
requirements,
minimum
building
separation
and
Building
height.
In
addition,
the
applicant
has
stated
that
this,
the
design
of
the
garage
will
match
the
primary
structure.
F
B
B
F
F
The
zoning
ordinance
other
than
setback
requirements
does
not
have
a
limitation
on
the
footprint
of
a
primary
structure.
Inclusive
of
an
attached
garage.
However,
due
to
the
configuration
of
the
subject,
property
and
the
location
of
the
primary
residence
on
the
site,
with
respect
to
a
20-foot
front
yard
setback
and
a
10-foot
side
yard
setback,
making
the
addition
of
the
attached
structure
difficult
based
on
the
configuration
a
lot.
F
F
Some
variation
exists
regarding
the
development
of
the
single-family
residential
neighborhood
development
along
Antietam.
Drive
Southwest
generally
consists
of
1990s
era.
Single
family
construction
on
Lots
deeper
than
they
are
wide
most
homes
in
the
area
vary
between
around
2000
square
feet
to
upwards
of
3000
square
feet
and
have
attached
garages.
F
And
this
is
a
survey
submitted
by
the
applicant
reflecting
that
purchase
of
property
here,
so
this
section
was
purchased
and
combined
onto
the
existing
parcel,
which
is
why
it
extends
all
the
way
out
to
that
other
buffer
here
on
the
far
side,
which
does
not
apply
to
some
of
these
other
surrounding
properties.
There
are
a
couple
others
in
the
development
that
have
lots
of
similar
size,
but
most
there's
an
additional
kind
of
buffer
there,
but
the
applicant
purchased
that
space
in
2001..
F
It's
reflected
by
that
survey,
exhibit
e
in
your
agenda.
Packet,
contains
photographs
of
the
property
taken
by
staff
depicting
the
existing
conditions
of
the
property,
as
well
as
proposed
location
of
the
new
structure
and
the
distance
between
the
proposed
location
and
the
nearest
residential
homes.
This
is
just
a
photograph
of
our
notice
posted
on
the
property,
a
photograph
of
the
structure
itself.
F
This
is
looking
I
guess,
East
Northeast,
just
to
illustrate
the
distance
between
the
structure,
the
applicant's
home
and
the
nearest
neighbor
here,
and
this
is
a
picture
of
the
side
of
the
home,
and
this
is
a
picture
of
the
for
looking
a
little
bit
farther
west
to
illustrate
the
separation
between
the
primary
structure
on
that
this
lot
and
that
lot
and
the
the
detached
garage
will
go
in
the
back
here.
F
Not
including
changes
to
the
Landscaping,
the
property
appears
relatively
unchanged
from
when
the
applicant
bought
it.
There
have
been
no
significant
changes
to
the
primary
structure
that
would
have
increased
or
decreased
overall
square
footage.
The
applicant
would
have
to
increase
the
overall
square
footage
of
the
primary
structure
by
approximately
453
square
feet
to
permit
an
accessory
structure
of
the
proposed
size.
F
As
previously
mentioned,
the
proposed
structure
meets
all
applicable
building
separation
and
setback
requirements,
and
the
proposed
design
appears
to
be
compatible
with
the
design
of
the
primary
structure.
On
the
lot,
the
applicant
has
stated
that
the
proposed
accessory
structure
will
be
used
for
the
storage
of
personal
vehicles
and
other
personal
property
and
the,
and
that
the
lot
will
remain
residential
in
use.
F
In
addition,
the
construction
is
not
excuse
me.
The
construction
of
the
proposed
structure
is
not
anticipated
to
conflict
with
additional
utilities,
nor
significantly
altered
drainage
patterns.
F
E
F
Lions
right
now
yeah,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
with
this
this
site
plan
here
because
of
the
the
how
dark
it
is
when
it
got
scanned
in
but
yeah
it'll
be
pretty
far
back
here
on
the
lot,
I
will
still
meet
the
10
foot
setback
requirements
on
both
the
side
and
rear.
But
excuse
me
basically
this
this
be
this
sort
of
section
of
property
was
purchased
in
order
to
make
enough
room
on
the
lot
for
this.
This
structure
of
this
size.
F
So,
but
it
is,
it
is,
you
know,
basically
all
the
way
in
the
back
of
the
lot
still
conforming
to
the
10-foot
setback
requirements
but
yeah
it
would
be.
It
would
be
back
back
in
here
pretty
pretty
far
back.
B
K
F
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
I
will
say
typically,
just
in
general,
the
more
restrictive
of
the
rules
or
requirements
apply.
However,
the
city
does
not
enforce
HOA
covenants
and
restrictions
so,
while
that
they
there
may
or
may
not
be
conflicts
with
with
the
established
covenants
of
the
HOA,
the
city
does
not
enforce
those
Covenants
so
that
it's
up
to
the
HOA
to
basically
enforce
all
of
their
rules.
G
G
We're
here
specifically
to
look
at
a
city
ordinance
and
whether
or
not
there's
compelling
reason
to
Grant
a
variance
to
that
ordinance
as
it
pertains
to
the
structure
that
they
want
to
build
correct
the
HOA
stuff
other
than
concerned
citizens.
Input
on
the
overall
project
is
is
not
what
we're
here
to
interpret
or
to
rule.
H
So
the
issue
and
I'm
glad
that's
all
clarified.
Thank
you
both,
but
the
other
question
I
have
then,
is
a
variance
to
construct
a
building
that
exceeds
the
ordinance
requirements
by
226
square
feet
are
talking.
F
But
I
believe
there
are.
There
may
be
one
or
two
down
in
here
just
kind
of
looking
in
in
in
the
map
previously,
but
it's
it's
an
uncommon
situation.
Most
homes
do
not
have
that
extra
square
footage
on
the
lot.
F
That's
correct,
yeah
I,
assume
that
has
to
do
with
the
topography
or
just
you
know
how
the
developer
initially
went
in,
but
yeah
they're
they're,
not
particularly
rectangular
or
regular
in
shape
I
mean
some
of
the
Lots
on
this
side.
Here
are
pretty
squared
off,
but
certainly
on
this
this
side.
Here
there
there
are
some
abnormal
shapes
and
I
assume
that
has
to
do
with
the
buffer
and
or
the
topography.
B
K
I
I
have
one
more
John
in
under
criteria
two
down
in
staff
response.
You
say
that
all
other
accessory
structures,
meat
requirements
of
three
four
two
e.
B
F
Yeah,
that's
just
again
for
clarification
that
there
are
some
detached
structures
on
on
the
Lots
in
the
neighborhood,
but
given
the
average
square
footage
of
these
hums
in
the
development
there,
they
they're
nowhere
near
50
of
the
square
footage.
It.
K
Whereas
the
applicant
says
there
are
other
detached
structures
that
don't
necessarily
meet
that
it's
contradictory.
F
A
F
I
am
not
aware
of
that.
Why
that
that
200
square
foot
is
is
part
of
the
overall
plan,
the
only
I
and
it
it
may
have
been
brought
up
to
me
before
and
I
just
can't
recall,
but
I
have
I'm
aware
that
sometimes
that,
if
you
start
getting
into
custom
square
footage,
it
can
be
more
expensive
than
kind
of
a
standard
sizing.
So
it's
possible
that
you
know
the
standard
size
down
is
maybe
1.
B
F
Square
feet
and
the
next
size
up
is
that
1360
based
on
prefabricated
material
or
something
like
that,
so
it
would
be
more
expensive
to
go
for
a
1133
square
foot
building,
then
a
larger
one,
because
it's
more
customized
square
footage.
That's
my
guess,
but
the
applicant
may
be
able
to
clarify
exactly.
A
A
L
Hi,
my
name
is
Lisa
glass,
we
live
at
108,
Antietam
drive
and
we
are
requesting
a
variance
of
226
square
feet
due
to
the
square
footage
requirement.
Heated
square
footage,
that's
the
ordinance
when
we
started
the
process,
the
we
were
instructed
by
the
city
and
planning
and
our
Builder
and
the
county.
Frankly
that
the
gross
heated
floor
area
would
be
what
the
what
the
size
was
based
on
and
the
gross
area
of
our
home,
including
our
heated
and
cooled
garage,
is
2839
square
feet.
L
That's
all
Under
One
Roof,
it's
heated
and
cooled,
and
that
was
the
that
was
the
ordinance
and
the
requirements
that
were
that
were
laid
before
us.
And
so
that's
what
we
went
forth
with
to
answer
your
question
about
the
the
size
there
are
no
prefabricated,
except
for
maybe
trusses
materials
that
are
to
be
built.
It
was
for
parking
vehicles
and
being
able
to
exit
them
and
I
mean
there
was
great
care
done
to
measure
exactly
how
much
floor
area
we
needed.
So
that
was
the
difference.
There's
no
prefab
or
metal
or
anything.
L
I
would
like
to
address
the
the
comment
about
the
other
structures
that
that
we
did
not
think
comply.
There
are
a
couple
of
them.
One
is
a
two-story
structure
and
I
based
on
County
records.
L
I
wasn't
able
to
determine
how
much
the
square
footage
is
in
the
in
the
upstairs
portion
of
that
structure,
but
according
to
our
covenants,
to
to
speak
to
that,
our
everything
that
we
have
done,
the
the
specifications,
the
building
materials
and
all
of
that
are
in
compliance
with
our
HOA
requirements
and
I
believe
that
that
was
included
with
the
packet
as
well.
Our
covenants
state
that
any
garage
detached
or
attached
shall
be
a
two-car
garage
and
there
are
other.
L
The
the
two-story
structure
is
a
two
car,
but
it's
two
car
deep,
but
it
has
a
single
garage
door
on
it.
There
are
two
other
garages
in
our
development
and
they're
all
very,
very
nicely
done
and
should
have
been
granted,
but
they
have
two-car
garage
one
one
piece:
two-car
garage
door
and
then
have
an
adjacent
additional
single
car
garage
door,
and
so
that
makes
them
three-car
garages
as
I
say
very,
very
nicely
done
and
in
keeping
with
the
architecture
of
the
neighborhood,
which
is
what
our
intention
also
is
to
be.
A
K
M
K
Square
feet
isn't
a
lot
why,
if
you
had
it
under
200,
if
you
take
off
226
square
feet,
shaved
six
feet
off
the
back
two
feet
up
three
feet
off
the
back
two
feet
on
the
sides:
there's
a
number
of
ways
you
can
achieve
that.
That's
true
still
have
a
a
a
garage.
That's
within
right,
the
zoning
ordinance.
Why
don't
you
just
make
it
220.
L
Because
what
we
wanted
to
do
on
our
property
and
with
the
the
regulations
that
we
were
given
at
the
outset
of
this
is
that
we
were
working
within
the
constraints
of
2000
839
square
feet,
and
so
we
wanted
to
be
below
that.
We
purchased
the
additional
buffer
property,
not
because
the
what
we
wanted
to
build
would
not
have
looked
and
in
balance
with
our
home,
but
because
we
wanted
to
have
the
extra
area.
L
Just
you
know,
to
increase
space
and
I,
don't
see
because
the
because
now
the
the
garage,
the
garage,
heated
and
cooled
space
is
being
disallowed.
We
have
already
gone
to
the
expense
of
heating
and
cooling
the
garage
of
having
some
clearing
done.
We
have
been
working
with
our
our
Builder
having
the
plans
and
all
of
that
done.
L
We've
we
put
sod
along
the
sides
of
our
home
and
we
had
intended
to
put
a
privacy
fence
which
we
shall
do
when
this
is
finished,
so
that
you
really
wouldn't
see
anything
probably
but
the
roof
over
the
fence.
Anyhow.
So
that
would
be
a
moot
point,
but
that's
that's
the
size
and
function
that
would
function
the
best
for
us.
Okay
and
that's
why
we've
made
the
request.
G
Yeah,
a
question
for
Mrs
glass:
did
your
calculation
of
your
square
feet
with
your
garage?
Did
you
get
feed?
Did
the
city
imply
or
did
some
who
I'm
trying
to
figure
out?
G
Who
who
who
guided
that
or
who?
Who
gave
you
feedback
on
that
in
terms
of
being
able
to
count
it
and
then
in.
L
G
F
Making
some
alterations
to
to
heated
square
footage
other
than
just
putting
a
conditioning
unit
would
not
qualify
it
for
the
additional
square
footage
so
I.
It
sounds
like
in
in
that
in
that
process
of
determining
that
and
exactly
what
the
intention
was,
that
they
had
kind
of
operated
on
the
assumption
that
it
would
be
again
it's.
It's
also
comes
from
the
County's
assessment
of
the
heated
square
footage
and
yeah.
G
L
At
that
is
correct,
that
Mike
Jordan
has
the
plans
and
permits
ready
to
be
delivered
to
us
and
when
they
got,
they
were
getting
confirmation
or
certification
from
the
county.
As
far
as
the
heated
and
cooled
square
footage,
the
gentleman
at
the
county
said
that
unless
we
removed
our
garage
door
framed
it
in
that
he
would
not
count
it,
and
although
that
is
not
what
the
ordinance
states,
he
said,
that's
what
they
intended.
G
Is
it?
Is
it
possible
to
now
reconfigure
I
mean
to
my
fellow
board
members.
L
I
I
D
H
H
Off
the
table
and
to
get
within
the
1333
square
feet,
I'm
not
trying
to
redesign
the
thing
but
right
part
I
am,
if
you
kept
the
same
width
that
would
allow
you
garage
doors,
your
your
height,
so
forth.
It's
just
the
depth
of
the
garage
would
be
short,
three
Corrections
seven
feet.
If
you
did
a
34
by
33
again,
you
span
still
right
meat.
I
think
your
Builder
would
be
able
to.
H
C
L
Order
for
it
to
function,
the
way
that
that
my
husband
wants
wants
it
to
and
for
our
family
he's
has
spent
a
great
amount
of
time.
You
know
trying
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
configured
in
a
way
that
will
be
workable.
This
is
going
to
cost
us
and
we've
already
spent
well
over
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
mean
it's
easily
a
ninety
five
thousand
dollar
project
for
us.
So
it's
it's
not
inexpensive
by
any
means,
and
so
we
want
it
spending.
L
Any
amount
of
money
is,
you
know,
is
important,
but
spending
that
level
of
money.
We
want
it
to
function.
The
way
that
we'd
like
to
had
we
known
that
this
was
going
to
you
know
this
could
be
or
would
be,
such
an
issue
and
such
a
process
to
have
to
live
through
I
I
likely
would
have
put
our
house
on
the
market
and
we
moved
that's
not
adoption
at
this
point.
L
L
F
Speak
to
Mr,
chairman
Mr,
chairman,
sorry,
I,
just
quickly
interject.
These
were
additional
comments
that
we
received
prior
to
the
meeting.
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
want
to
enter
this
into
a
separate,
exhibit
and
have
some
time
to
look
at
these.
If
that's
the
protocol
here,
but
these
appear
to
be
additional
comments
received
from
from
Neighbors
in
support
of
the
the
request,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
we
want
to
enter
that
into
a
separate
exhibit
and
but
it
was
just
given
to
me,
you
know,
as
Mrs
glass
was.
A
N
Hey
there,
my
name
is
Brad
Brody
I'm,
the
attorney
for
the
Stratford
Hall
homeowners,
association
and
I
live
at
1447,
Herndon,
Dairy,
Road,
I,
don't
live
in
the
subdivision
and
from
time
to
time.
I
do
some
work
for
the
association
just
in
the
last,
maybe
a
few
months,
and
they
had
contacted
me
about
this
situation.
N
I
guess
some
some
urgency
when
they
saw
the
sign
go
up
about
the
meeting
and
I
guess
some
of
the
association
had
heard
some
some
information
that
maybe
there
was
going
to
be
some
building
planned
over
there,
but
there's
never
been
a
actual
application
made
to
the
association
to
the
Stratford
Hall
homeowners
association.
N
The
the
the
lot
of
the
the
applicants
is
governed
by
some
covenants,
the
amended
Declaration
of
covenants
restrictions
and
conditions
for
Stratford
Hall
subdivision,
which
were
recorded
in
19
around
1990
July
of
1990
and
some
reference
to
those
was
made,
or
it
may
have
been,
even
in
the
application
packet
that
you
got
and
they
in
in
in
a
portion
of
it.
It
reads
on
page
five
that
paragraph
six,
that
all
garages,
whether
attached
or
detached
from
the
residents
shall
be
two
car
garages
period.
N
No
carports
shall
be
erected
on
any
residential
lot
in
the
development
and
then
so
the
the
the
board.
N
N
That's
kind
of
what
the
house
looks
like,
but
it's
really
the
fact
that
the
objection
is
not
not
that
they
can't
have
a
garage
it's
over
the
size
of
this
garage
that
in
essence,
it's
a
hundred
percent
greater
than
what
the
covenants
provide
for
that
are
recorded
and
there's
not
ever
been
a
like
I,
said
an
application
to
the
association.
N
It's
my
understanding
that
the
house
already
has
a
two-car
garage,
and
this
would,
you
know,
would
add
a
a
sizable
building,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
I
guess
concern
about
it,
the
so
it's
really
to
give
some
some
sense
of
the
scale,
because
it's
hard,
sometimes
to
think
about
when
you
you
just
look
at
a
number
on
a
plot
of
how
big
this
is
I,
think
it
was
34
feet
by
by
40
feet
is
our
car.
Maybe
it's
36..
N
34
feet
yeah.
Is
that
right,
it's
either
34
or
36
34
34..
So
if
you
were
to
look
at
this
room
here
like
these,
the
size
of
this
room,
this
sort
of
the
part
in
the
inside
here
the
is
those
those
are
two
feet
panels
right
there,
so
I
counted
them
out.
While
I
was
sitting
there.
That's
32
feet
wide
right
here
at
16
of
those
and
then
you'd
have
to
count
back
20,
which
is
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
the
building.
Here,
almost
it's
about
four
short.
N
You
know
of
that
back
wall
is
the
size
you
know
of
a
30
4
by
40.
garage.
So
it's
it's
not
a
two-car
garage,
it's
four-car
garage
and
that's
really
the
objection,
and
it
you
know,
does
have
that
other
room
in
it.
But
that's
really
the
objection.
You
know
the
the
neighborhood
tries
to
run
a
nice.
You
know
a
neighborhood,
they
take
good
care
of
it
and
they're
proud
of
it,
and
that
is
the
board
doesn't
want
it
approved.
N
They
don't
want
to
be
arguing
about
it
with
the
applicants
who
are
residents,
but
they
just
want
it
to
comply
with
the
covenants
and
and
would
ask
that
you
deny
the
requests
for
the
for
the
variants
and
some
of
them
want
to
speak
briefly.
G
N
I
mean
I
think
the
covenants
just
call
for
a
two-car
garage.
You
know
which
would
be.
N
You
know
it,
the
I
would
say
it's
probably
you
know,
a
normal
garage
is
probably
24
to
26
foot
wide
by
22
foot.
Deep,
this
is
is,
this
is,
is
double
what
a
normal
garage
would
be,
and
so
you
know
they
would
just
you
know
they
haven't
seen
the
application
they
they
they
got.
They
got
the
the
plans
from
the
city
and,
and
so
that
was
then
we
had
something
to
look
at
and
then
the
materials
when
I
looked
at
them.
N
It
looks
pretty
Oak,
you
know
pretty
straightforward,
but
it's
just
the
the
size
of
this
is
it
was
my
greatest
concerned.
Some
of
the
residents
may
have
other
concerns,
but
from
from
my
standpoint
it
was
just
it's
just
too
big
and
and
I
think
they
would
if
they
would
apply,
and
then
they
would
certainly
Entertain
You
know
their
a
proper
two-car
garage.
Like
the
Covenant
say.
G
C
N
K
But
the
two-car
garage
issue
opposed
to
four.
That's
a
that's
HOA
issue
right.
N
Well
I
mean
it's
you
know
just
like
he
had
said
it's
generally
they're
more
restrictive
of
the
of
the
standards.
You
know
the
HOA
has
rights
themselves,
but
it's
it's
they're
asking
for
essentially
a
hundred
percent
more
than
what
the
covenants
say:
they're
asking
for
200
and
whatever
30
feet
more
than
I
guess
what
the
city
ordinance
says:
okay,.
K
N
Well,
no
I
think
you
can
have
a
separate
building
too
I
think
you
can
have
a
two-car
garage
and
you
can
have
another
two-car
garage,
but
you
can't
have
a
you
know.
Four
to
you
know
this
is
this
is
double
I
mean
you
can
look
at
it
and
just
look
at
those
the
size
of
this
room
here
and
you'll
see
that's
it's
quite
sizable,
and
so
if
they
could
adjust
it
down,
I,
don't
I,
don't
you
know
and
apply,
then
the
board
will
address
it
fairly.
N
O
O
Yeah
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
I'll
say
your
name
right.
John
wrecked
I
really
appreciate
your
your
opening
comment
to
the
city
about
the
HOA
play
in
this.
We've
got
a
city
ordinance
that
says
about
what
a
detached
structure
can
be
on
a
property
to
me,
I
think
the
intent
is
is
that
the
secondary
building
doesn't
overpower
that
main
resonance
and
and
from
what
I've
seen
from
the
property
owner
they.
They
didn't
even
know
that
the
statute
existed.
O
So
so,
then
they
went
forward
and
I
think
the
the
car
left
the
pavement
with
the
discussion
with
the
homeowners
association
and
therefore,
through
those
discussions
we
eventually
ended
up
with
understanding.
There
was
this
size
limitation
and
that's
when
they
again
tried
to
mitigate
that
by
what
they
thought
with
the
information
they
had.
They
didn't
just
put
a
simple
window
unit
in
for
their
heated
and
cool
space.
O
They
pulled
a
split
unit
in
trying
to
buy
good
faith,
meet
the
intent,
I
think
at
this
point
you
know
looking
at
what
they've
invested
their
focus
on
the
on
the
sensitivity
to
what
they're
doing
they've
coordinated
with
the
neighbors
on
their
left
and
the
right
first,
because
those
are
the
most
impacted.
They
even
went
to
the
Brookhaven
the
backside
to
ensure
that
that
homeowner
was
satisfied
for
my
way
of
thinking
that
the
HOA
side
of
it
is
a
separate
issue
for
you
all
in
this.
O
In
this
variation
on
on
size
to
the
two
structures
ought
to
have
some
mitigating
factors
on
the
fact
that
they've
increased
their
lot
size
and
they're,
putting
it
all
the
way
in
the
back,
and
they
will
have
landscaping
and
a
privacy
fence
they
got
they've
got
three
teenage
boys.
You
can
imagine
how
many
Rolling
Stock
that
adds
to
your
to
your
driveway
and
that's
what
they're
trying
to
accommodate
and
the
size
was
laid
out
that
way.
Their
intent
is
to
make
sure
that
they
meet
the
HOA
I.
O
Disagree
with
what
the
lawyer
for
the
HOA
has
said:
I
I
I've
been
there
since
95.
I
went
through
Ted
Morton,
who
was
the
original
Builder.
He
was
then
acting
for
the
covenants
and
the
HOA
as
the
Builder,
because
he
had
the
maximum
number
of
Unfinished
Lots
undeveloped,
Lots.
It
went
to
the
bank
when
he
forfeited
right.
O
After
the
closing
on
my
house
last
house,
he
built,
and
then
it
went
to
don
Shafer
and
and
to
Gerald
Waters,
and
during
that
period
the
structures
and
I
can
I
I
would
say
to
the
city.
I
know
they
were
friends
of
ours.
O
They
they
had
a
pool
and
they
put
in
a
single
car
garage
two
floors,
two
levels:
it's
got
to
be
at
that
or
more
than
what
the
property
only
108
is
asking
for
for
the
HOA
they've
already
breached
this
issue
as
far
as
the
vet
catch
garage
but
of
the
two
properties.
I
know
that
are
in
this
situation,
one's
on
Sparrow
Circle
one's
on
Antietam.
O
O
I'm
one
of
the
other
owners
who
bought
that
extra
piece
of
property
behind
their
their
house
that
that
was
available
through
Schaefer.
There
was
a
third
man
who
left
he
bought
up
in
the
cul-de-sac.
It's
a
huge
piece
that
he's
added
and
he's
put
his
RV
on
it.
It
it's
I
think
the
focus
should
be
on
what
the
statute
is
actually
trying
to
achieve,
and
the
fact
that
the
property
owner
has
been
sensitive
that
and
has
taken
mitigative
actions
to
the
best
of
their
ability
to
ask
for
a
small
variance
on
the
overall
square
footage.
O
P
P
I
would
like
to
address
that.
There's
been
a
numerous
or
several
points
made
regarding
the
expense
that
has
been
made.
I
would
ask
the
board
to
neglect
or
not
neglect,
to
ignore
those
I.
Don't
think
that,
as
as
you
said,
the
HOA
is
you
know
it's
not
your
purview
to
enforce
the
HOAs
covenants.
I
also,
don't
think
that
the
cost
that
they've
incurred
at
this
point
is
has
any
bearing
on
these
proceedings,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
NASA
City,
if
that's
the
case,
but
I
believe
I,
don't
believe
it.
It
should
be.
P
Let's
see
so
we
talked
about
the
spirit
of
the
zoning
oranges.
Rather
what
the
statute
is
trying
to
achieve.
In
my
view,
what
the
statutes,
what
zoning
ordinances
are
trying
to
achieve
is
to
maintain
the
re,
in
this
case
the
character
of
a
residential
neighborhood
the
size.
As
the
attorney
pointed
out,
the
side
of
this
garage
is
Far
and
Away,
not
even
close
to
a
residential
garage
I've,
never
seen
a
residential
Garage
in
the
neighborhood.
P
This
large
personally
of
that
that
size-
that's
that's
over
and
above
so
another
Point
made,
is
the
adjoining
neighbors
are
in
favor
of
this
or
or
neutral
towards
it
like
to
point
out
to
the
applicants
and
to
the
board
that
we're
we're
a
neighborhood
of
95
Lots
93
homes,
we're
all
Neighbors.
We
have
one
entrance
and
one
exit,
and
it's
the
same
so
therefore
we
are
all
Neighbors.
P
So
the
fact
that
in
the
adjoining
neighbors
are
okay
with
it
I
think
is
not
quite
I
hope
I'm,
not
up
five
minutes
already
all
right,
so
the
structure
itself
is
a
garage
or
is
claimed
to
be
a
garage.
This,
in
my
view,
is
an
automotive
Workshop.
P
Some
of
the
fixtures
they
intend
to
put
in
electrical
is
30
amp,
220,
volt
circuits
two
I
believe
it
is
I,
believe
it's
eight
110,
volt
or
120
volt,
15
or
20
amp
circuits
I,
don't
know
about
your
allos
garages.
Mine
does
not
have
20
amp
circuits
220.
Volt.
Excuse
me.
30
amp
220
volt
circuits,
my
dryer
has
one
my
oven
has
one
my
garage
does
not
oh
yeah.
Excuse
me
I
left
out
my
air
conditioning
unit,
that's
a
50
amp,
so
what
they're
proposing
is
significantly
more
than
a
residential
garage.
P
P
P
I've
seen
many
many
trucks
driving
through
our
neighborhood
of
their
friends
and
I've,
seen
it
because
I've
seen
them
parked
in
front
of
their
garage
in
front
of
their
house
in
their
driveway
in
their
garage
as
they'll
walk
around
the
neighborhood
they've
got
their
garage
doors
up
the
present
garage.
So
it's
obviously
they're
working
on
cars,
I've
seen
that
as
I
walk
the
neighborhood
and
enjoy
the
evening
stroll.
P
P
P
P
F
Yeah,
this
is
the
only
plan
that
was
submitted
to
the
planning
department.
They
may
have
included
the
height
to
the
with
the
building
permit,
but
this
is
what
was
given
to
us
by
the
applicant
and
does
not
appear
to
indicate
the
height,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
it
will
not
be
taller
or
any
higher
than
the
the
primary
structure
on
the
lot.
Pursuant
to
the
requirements
of.
P
P
P
P
A
couple
final
points,
this
the
expense
that
they've
made
I
want
to
go
back
to
that
a
little
bit.
They've
they're,
proposing
they've
they've,
said
they've
already
gone
to
a
significant
expense
and
that
it's
a
hardship,
I
believe,
was
the
term
they
used
in
their
proposal.
P
If
that's
a
hardship,
then
spending
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
a
garage
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
that
fits
and
I
believe
there's
also
wording
in
there.
If
you
give
me
just
a
moment
how
much
time
I
have
left,
but
there's
also
a
wording
in
there
about
if
they
do
not
the
front
page
here,
I
think
I
highlighted
it.
P
How
do
you
get
a
return?
A
hundred
thousand
dollar
garage
unless
you're
going
to
use
it
as
commercial
I?
Don't
know
how
you
do
that
not
in
this
neighborhood
this
this
type
of
structure
out
in
the
county
would
be
fantastic
or
in
a
more
commercial
edge
of
commercial,
but
not
in
an
rs-15
neighborhood
of
the
character
that
we
have
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might.
P
Okay,
we
would
never
have
done
all
this
without
the
expectation
that
our
compliance
would
generate
final
approval.
This
is
called
as
hardship
with
no
fault
of
our
own.
How
would
you
with
an
X?
The
word
expectation
leads
me
to
believe
that
they
expect
to
spend
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
get
a
return.
P
H
P
G
We'll
certainly
have
maybe
an
opportunity
to
ask
the
the
applicant,
but.
P
P
P
P
No,
but
I
would
like
to
make
the
point
that
the
first
application
tonight
that
that
woman
came
in
and
she
said,
I
haven't,
spent
much
money.
If
anything,
I
would
I
I
want
I'm
just
trying
to
get
approval
for
something
before
I
spend
a
bunch
of
money.
I
think
she
said
so.
She
came
forward
before
she
spent
anything
of
significance
to
find
out
if
it
would
be
approved.
P
It
will
be
up
to
the
HOA
to
determine
what
and
what
and
how
much.
That's,
not
your
purview
I
understand
that,
but
they
should
have
come
to
the
HOA
before
they
spent
fifteen
thousand
dollars
as
well.
They
have
done
neither
or
they
have
until
now,
they've
come
to
you,
but
they
have
ignored
their
neighbors.
In
my
view,
with
the
exception
of
a
few
but
they're
they
as
I
point
out,
you
have
93
neighbors,
not
five
or
six.
A
M
My
name
is
Ray
Kent
I
live
at
237
sessions,
Drive
lived
there
for
10
years,
I
walked
the
neighborhood
just
about
every
day
and
I
see
seven
cars
out
five
to
seven
cars
out
there
a
day
in
front
of
this
house,
most
of
them
are
in
the
driveway.
I
saw
a
picture
earlier
that
you
had
up
that
had
just
two
cars
in
it.
That
was
interesting,
but
there's
usually
four
there
and
a
couple
out
front
of
the.
M
And
if
you
look
at
the
car
on
the
left,
the
white
car
it
looks
like
the
bumper
is
off
and
many
of
the
cars
that
I've
seen
there
are
either
on
Jacks
for
an
extended
period
of
time
or
other
kinds
of
repairs
are
needed.
I've
never
said
anything.
I've
never
had
a
problem
with
it.
These
are
my
neighbors,
but
when
I
see
a
facility
going
up
like
that,
it
looks
like
everything
is
going
big
time.
It's
just
going
to
be
getting
more
cars
there,
it's
going
to
be
a
business,
so
that
is
my
concern.
M
I
have
a
very
severe
hearing
problem.
If
you
ask
a
question,
I'm,
not
sure
I'm
going
to
even
hear
it
so
do
you
have
any
questions,
that's
just
from
my
observations
from
walking
around
but
five
to
seven
cars
and
there's
a
good
example
of
what
you
see
so
I'm
thinking,
there's
a
repair
shop
or
something
but
I
never
said
anything
until
I
saw
the
size
of
that
building
going
in
there.
So.
M
D
I
understand
that
the
ruling
is
for
the
zoning
I
guess
where
I'm
coming
from
is
that
the
issue
is
that
it
was
never
brought
to
the
HOA.
My
husband
and
I
purchased
in
this
subdivision
because
of
the
Aesthetics
because
of
the
beautiful
trees
and
all
the
lots
and
and
as
as
trees,
were
getting
flattened
and
and
everything.
D
That's
one
thing,
but
over
the
last
two
or
three
years
the
amount
of
cars
that
are
there
and
the
amount
of
noise
that's
there
has
has
become
it's
become
very
noticeable
when
I
saw
the
public
notice
is
when
I
looked
it
up
and
then,
when
I
saw
what
it
was
for.
My
immediate
reaction
was:
is
there
going
to
go
commercial,
they
might
not
say
they're
going
to
go
commercial
but
they're
going
to
go
commercial?
And
now
this
is
going
to
be
impending
on
the
neighborhood,
and
that
is
not
going
to
help
our
property
values.
B
G
F
That
yeah
that's
correct,
I
mean
we.
The
city
is
only
considering
the
The
increased
square
footage
but
like
us,
pursuant
to
the
the
covenants
associated
with
the
HOA
I
mean
that's
a
separate
matter.
That's
the
HOA
is
required
to
enforce
whether
they
choose
to
or
not
but
I
mean,
as
far
as
I
understand,
they're
they're
within
their
legal
right
to
enforce
that
as
part
of
the
covenants.
Okay,.
E
F
O
I,
don't
want
to
in
any
way
think
that
you
guys
have
been
asking
some
really
good
questions.
I,
the
the
statement
was
brought
up
about
the
power
that
was
in
the
garage,
my
two-car
garage,
which
is
attached
to
my.
O
Your
name
again
for
the
records
John
Melvin
136
Antietam.
Thank
you.
I
put
a
50
amp
breaker
in
my
two-car
garage
is
attached
to
my
house,
because
I
got
a
five
horsepower,
compressor
and
and
a
blasting
box
for
my
hobby
stuff,
I
weld
in
there
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
go
to
almost
any
neighborhood.
In
fact,
inside
a
Woodside
you'll
find
some
hobbyist
who's
managed
to
stick
a
lift
in
his
garage
I.
Don't
know
whether
the
property
owner
is
planning
to
do
that
or
not.
O
But
when
I
told
you
the
car
left
the
pavement
that
happened
way
early
on
when
they
were
trying
to
work
with
the
HOA
president
brought
it
up,
and
there
was
all
the
speculation
about
what
they
would
do.
You
all
don't
issue
commercial
permits.
They
can
operate
a
commercial
business
there
if
they
do
they're
going
to
be
in
trouble.
O
It
I
don't
understand
all
the
speculation
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
what
the
the
the
requirement
is
been
put
in
place
for
and
whether
or
not
the
property
owner
has
done
some
other
actions
that
warrants
the
variance
and
and
I
believe
the
fact
that
the
other
structures
that
we
have
that
don't
comply
with
the
Covenants
all
complied
with
the
Architectural
Review
Board,
and
this
one
will
too
two-car
garage
with
proper
siding
proper
finish.
O
But
if
they
want
those
cars
off
the
street
there's
their
answer,
but
if
they
don't,
if
they
don't
get
the
extra
size,
I
I
think
it's
going
to
hamper
what
he's
planning
to
do
with
his
boys
back
there
and
the
reason
why
more
cars
are
coming.
They
just
got
another
boy
old
enough
to
drive,
appreciate
it.
Thank.
A
J
N
For
the
Stratford
homeowners
association,
the
the
the
interior
height
of
the
garage
is
12
feet
according
to
the
plan
and
then
the
the
rise
and
run
on
the
roof
is
a
512.
N
N
It
would
have
been
helpful
to
have
it
on
there,
but
the
reason
I
say
this
is
because
I
guess
the
the
gentleman
from
the
city
had
said
it
can't
be
taller
than
the
house
and
it
looks
to
be
taller
than
the
house
because
the
house
looks
to
have
like
a
eight
foot
or
nine
foot
ceilings.
Maybe
the
applicant
could
say
what
size
their
ceilings
are,
but
it
looks
like
this
structure
is:
maybe
he
maybe
the.
N
Maybe
he
could
clarify
that
about
the
if
there's
a
height
requirement
or
limitation
too,
but
it
looks
like
it's
19
feet
tall.
That's
all.
C
P
You
Mike
mayerhoff
204
sessions,
Drive
in
Aiken,
so
two
things,
as
he
said,
the
height
as
calculated
would
be
above
so
again
make
that
point
again.
It
appears
to
be
a
commercial
garage.
The
second
thing
I
would
like
to
say-
or
second
second
point
I'd
like
to
make-
is
that
the
the
size
of
this
is
so
large
that
it's
again
out
of
character
for
the
neighborhood
and
if
it's
a
hardship
to
build
than-
and
you
have
as
you've
asked
several
times
about
alternative
plans
build
a
slab,
the
backyard,
that's
plenty
of
parking
area.
P
A
I
L
L
L
So
what
we're
and
that's
their
additional
garage
that
they
added
so
ours
would
only
be
four
feet
deeper
and
I
realized.
It
would
be
20
feet
wider,
but
the
gentleman's
comments
about
the
the
cars
in
the
driveway
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
would
alleviate
that
condition
to
exist,
and
it
would
also
allow
my
husband
to
be
able
to
or
my
sons
to
be
able
to
work
on
their
cars
and
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
any
requirement
in
a
neighborhood
that
you
can't
do
maintenance
on
your
own
cars
at
home.
L
My
husband
was
a
30-year
mechanic
for
General
Motors.
He
left
there
five
years
ago
and
he
is
an
employee
at
Emerson.
He
is
not
a
paid
mechanic,
he
is
a
Master
Mechanic.
Therefore,
we
have
a
lot
of
tools
and
equipment
that
he
can
use.
We
most
certainly
are
not
going
to
put
that
kind
of
equipment
outside
on
a
concrete
pad
to
be
ruined.
L
There
was
we
with
this
hundred
thousand
dollar
investment
that
we
are
making
our
basis
is
256
thousand
dollars
a
home
that
was
just
rehabilitated
around
the
corner
from
us
sold
for
479
thousand
dollars,
so
that
is
increasing
our
property
value.
It
increases
our
equity.
On
our
personal
balance
statement.
We
have
no
in
intention
nor
expectation
that
there
will
be
income
derived
from
that,
just
the
fact
that
we
would
be
able
to
enjoy
our
own
property
and
the
things
that
we
have
worked
for
to
be
able
to
conduct
Our
Lives.
L
Are
there
any
other
questions
that
I
can
answer
or
concerns?
We
are
more
than
happy
to
and
and
to
the
point
about
the
HOA.
We
had
numerous
numerous
conversations
with
Nicole
Dre,
who
is
the
HOA
president?
She
knew
to
the
letter
to
the
size
exactly
what
we
intended
to
do.
I
used
to
serve
on
the
HOA
committee
I'm,
a
realtor
I
am
very
well
versed
with
our
covenants
and
the
processes,
as
is
our
Builder.
L
We
went
through
the
to
the
Builder
talked
about
plans
went
through
the
city
and
the
county
as
to
what
we
would
be
able
to
do,
based
on
our
intentions
and
then
and
I.
Have
the
packet
here
prepared
for
our
HOA.
That's
the
process,
there's
no
reason
that
we
would
have
submitted
plans
to
them
that
would
have
not
been
approved.
That
would
be
an
exercise
in
futility
and
a
waste
of
other
people's
time.
L
Have
three
children?
They
all
have
their
own
cars.
We
have
seven
cars
yeah
and
it's
a
family
of
five.
Our
neighbors
on
the
corner
are
a
family
of
two
and
they've
pointed
out
to
us,
and
they
have
five
vehicles.
It
is
not
uncommon.
We
are
most,
certainly
not
the
only
ones.
We
are
absolutely
not
the
only
ones
who
have
street
parking
but
to
the
points
that
have
been
made
here.
That
is
not
of
dispute.
For
for
this
proceeding,
the
HOA
is
not
of
dispute
for
this
proceeding.
My.
Q
Drive
she
was
referring
to
the
garage
that
we
put
in
three
years
ago.
I
did
go
to
the
board
before
I
did
anything
and
that's
the
way
I
think
the
covenants
should
operate.
That's
why
our
plan
is
so
nice
I,
don't
know
whether
you
read
Nicole's
letter,
our
president
she's
our
way
on
business
in
Chicago
she
wrote
a
four-page
letter
to
you,
folks,
I,
don't
know
whether
you
read
it
but
it'll
State
a
lot
of
information
in
there.
That
isn't
true
that
she
has
been
saying.
R
My
name
is
Scott
Glass
108
Antietam
I
am
the
property
owner
in
question
just
to
come
up
to
maybe
solidify
some
things.
Let
me
first
off
it
apologize
to
the
board,
because
I
spoke
to
the
president
face
to
face
several
times
telling
her
to
process
that
my
Builder
told
me
to
Embark
upon
at
first
is
not
I
didn't
know.
We
did
this
variance.
R
I
did
not
that
that
came
after
the
fact,
but
he
said
to
get
your
permit
and
we
already
have
the
plans
and
if,
if
you
know
allowed
we're
going
to
give
them
right
now
to
the
board,
but
I
did
speak
to
Nicole
did
tell
her.
The
process
did
tell
her
what
my
Builder
and
what
the
city
did
advise
hey.
R
The
process
is
because
I've
never
done
this
before
so
I
took
them
a
good
faith
and
I
told
her
what
the
process
is
and
we
did
start
clearing
the
land,
because
we
did
get
in
a
positive
indication
from
the
city
how
you're
good,
but
our
property
is
suffers
from
fungal
blight.
Our
pin
oaks
have
been
decimated
by
it,
and
this
is
something
since
about
2007.
We've
been
clearing
the
trees
because
they're
very
susceptible
there's
much
more
clearing
to
what
I
wanted
to
do.
I
didn't
need
a
approval.
R
I
was
told
from
this
city
they're
diseased
I
have
two
arborists
that
came
out,
confirmed
that
so
we
did
take
them
down,
but
the
bonus
of
that
losing
the
pretty
trees
and
I
agree
with
the
young
lady.
That's
Pope,
pardon
me
I,
don't
remember!
Your
name
is
that
we
were
able
to
get
the
topography
level
a
nice
drainage
slope.
We
paid
a
lot
of
money
to
do
that,
the
neighbor
to
our
left.
If
you
look
at
the
picture,
it's
on
the
right,
we
went
ahead
and
we
cleared
out
trees.
His
trees,
falling
on
my
roof.
R
There's
a
patch
of
grass
that's
actually
on
his
property
I,
had
that
graded
level
and
put
that
up
for
him
he's
a
dear
friend
and
he
was
very
happy
and
I
graded
the
side
of
his
yard,
or
had
it
done
so
anyway
in
in
back
to
I,
guess
the
thing
in
question:
I
want
to
I,
know:
I,
can't
quell
the
fears
that
yes,
I
was
automotive
mechanic
for
32
years,
child
performing
enjoyed
it
loved
it
and
that's
something
I
used
to
do
with
my
dad
and
I
want
to
do
my
sons
and
there
are
a
lot
of
vehicles.
R
I,
think
we
own
12
or
13.
I,
don't
buy
them
to
fix
them
up.
We
have
some
antique
vehicles
and
luckily,
for
us
we
do
not
have
we're
not
prohibited
to
parking
on
the
street,
but
I
hate
it.
It
looks.
Nasty
I
would
that's
why
the
shop
is
configured
as
it
is.
A
lot
of
time
was
spent
trying
to
maximize
square
footage.
That's
why
their
square
footage
really
matters
to
us
because
we're
able
to
stock
them
in
and
there
is
a
if
you
pull
up
the
diagram.
There
is
a
room
on
the
right.
R
My
wife
is
a
realtor
on
the
right
hand,
side
where
her
staging
items
that
cannot
get
dirty
cannot
get
the
smell
of
any
car.
That's
going
to
you
know,
effervesce
fumes
that
is
going
to
be
air
conditioned
and
it's
the
items
can
be
sequestered
and
we're
paying
in
excess
of
500
I.
Think
it's
in
your
pocket
receipts
to
what
we
spend
on
storage
and
part
of
that
is
from
my
wife's
Endeavor
and
part
of
is
my
equipment
and
when
I
say
equipment,
tool,
boxes.
R
Things
like
that
I
do
not
do
commercial
work
and
there's
a
lot
of
letters.
I
think
almost
15
percent
of
the
neighborhood
sign
letters
and
I
asked
them
not
to
attend
and
we
had
Mr
Melvin
felt
very
strong
and
I
appreciate
him
showing
up,
but
we
didn't
want
the
way
we've
been
attacked
and
singled
out
and
I
know.
Part
of
this
is
a
neighborhood
issue
and
I
know
I'm
uphill
battle
with
them,
but
I
have
tried
to
meet
every
letter
of
the
law
and
at
the
same
time
we
have
legal
counsel.
R
R
Oh,
when
I,
when
I
stayed
talk
to
her
I
did
not
I
talked
to
her
on
three
separate
occasions.
She
was
very
insistent
that
we
needed
to
come
to
her
first
and
I
felt
like
it
was
a
Fool's
Folly,
because
the
city
usurps
any
HOA
and
I
told
her
that
I
said
just
as
soon
as
we
have.
We
told
her
exactly
what
the
structure
was
going
to
be,
but
it's
going
to
be
used
for
and
so
I
don't
think.
R
She
really
gave
me
deference
on
that
and
I've
told
her
in
front
of
my
wife.
So
at
least
we
can
corroborate
a
witness
but
she's,
very
insistent
that
I
needed
to
come
to
him
first
and
I
felt
that
that
was
out
of
Step,
but,
like
I
said,
we've
been
so
planned.
We
got
the
affirmative
back
in
into
June
July
and
every
month
that
goes
by
I'm,
storing
my
wife's
items,
my
items
and
so
that's
what
the
the
continuing
cost
basis
is,
but
and
quite
honestly
it
it
is
quite
a
structure.
R
I
would
say
that,
but
it
is
set
way
back
in
the
property.
It
will
be
hidden
it.
The
height
is
very
low,
and
that's
why
I
was
intentionally
done
that
way
set
back.
You
can't
see
it.
It's
not
going
to
be
something
we're
in
and
out
of
every
day.
I.
Don't
do
it
like
I,
said
repair
work
for
for
money,
but
I
do
do
it
with
my
sons
and
I.
Don't
leave
cars
jacked
up
in
my
driveway
there
there
was
one
as
of
recent,
and
they
they
do
have
just
cause
to
complain.
R
But
I
do
not
do
that
and
it
would
be
a
garage
well
insulated
to
where
I
can
shut
the
door
in
the
winter
time.
There's
no
noise
and
I've
never
had
any
noise
complaints
from
my
Endeavors
with
my
boys
out
in
the
driveway
and
I'm,
just
merely
a
dad
trying
to
enjoy
my
sons
by
the
time
I
have
and
that's
why
we're
putting
so
much
of
an
investment,
because
this
is
the
place
where
I
want
to
retire.
R
R
Trucks
are
going
to
go
right
over
it,
but
my
indication
is
I
wanted
to
try
to
make
the
appearances
look
better
for
our
neighbors
and,
and
they
have
I
know.
They're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
the
building.
If
we
do
this,
but
they
still
can
look
better,
I
can
fix
the
grass
later
but
I
put
in
like
I
said.
Both
sides
were
over
five
thousand
dollars
worth
of
grass,
because
I
wanted
to
enhance
it
just
being
a
dust
bowl.
I
R
My
wife,
okay
and
we've
spoken
to
them
together
many
times.
Okay,.
I
Again,
I
need
to
kind
of
cross
over
and
ask
a
question
of
the
city.
At
the
same
time,.
I
For
my
own
edification,
when
you
met
with
the
Builder
and
the
protocol,
is
such
that
this
property
is
in
the
city,
that's
why
we're
here.
R
I
Because
it's
being
built
in
the
city
is,
is
it
not
standard
procedure
to
then
take
Plans
by
a
builder
who's
licensed
in
the
city
to
go
to
the
city
building
department
to
get
the
required
permits?
Etc.
B
O
I
Okay,
so
then
I'm
just
kind
of
clarifying
for
my
own
understanding.
So
essentially
your
Builder
based
on
this
proposal,
went
to
the
county
and
from
whatever,
from
what
you've
described.
The
discrepancy
in
the
square
footage
was
based
on
the
county
numbers
so
that
this
226
.5
that
you
were
led
to
believe
you
could
have
is
then
now
leading
you
here,
because
the
Builder
essentially
well.
R
F
R
Mike
Jordan,
we
spoke
to
him
and
he
said:
would
they
would
include
it
because
you
know
we
weren't
just
putting
like
I
said
a
window
unit
in
and
we're
actually
in
the
process
of
putting
more
insulation
in
our
our
garage
and
I
can't
put
this
structure
I
would
love
to
put
the
structure
on
the
house
and
it'll
be
a
non-issue
right,
but
with
setbacks
and
roof
line,
that's
just
it's
not
doable
I.
R
H
R
K
May
I
address
your
point:
I
think
if
the
Builder
went
to
the
county,
the
county
and
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
would
send
him
away,
send
them
back
to
the
city,
saying
what
you
know
there
you
so
whatever
assurances
he
got
from
the
county,
I,
don't
know
that
he
would
have
gotten
anything
just
to
just
to
inform
you
yeah.
I
R
R
That's
why
I
first
of
all
got
with
HOA
president
now
my
name's
sullied
and
they
have
there
I'm
in
bad
light
with
them,
no
matter
what
I
do,
but
I
did
try
the
process,
but
we
thought
was
in
the
correct
manner,
but
and
that's
just
like
the
the
air
conditioned,
you
know
heat
in
a
cool
space
that
puts
us
well
over
the
board
and
that's
that
made
sense
to
me.
But
I'm,
not
I,
don't
know
this
process,
yeah.
C
H
Mr
chair
good,
but
correct
me
if
I
heard
this
right,
the
city
did
I
did
I
understand
that.
H
The
space
that's
heated
and
cooled
in
the
garage
if
it
were
framed
up
such
that
it
was
an
additional
room
to
the
house,
not
just
a
heated
garage.
If
you
will
that
square
footage
would
be
counted
but
as
as
I
think
helped
me
with
this
max.
If
it
were
not
framed
up,
if
the
door
was
still
there
and
it
could
still
function
as
a
garage
Cooling
in
it
that
space
is
not
counted
by
the
Mr
Jordan.
That's.
F
My
understanding,
both
both
from
the
city's
perspective
in
terms
of
our
building
code
and
the
county
in
terms
of
assessing
the
the
value
and
square
footage
of
the
property,
the
requirement
is,
is
not
it's.
It
states
that
it
has
to
be
heated
and
cooled
square
footage,
but
according
to
building
code,
as
far
as
I
understand,
that's
simply
putting
a
unit
on
the
building.
Whether
it's
you
know
a
mini
split
or
a
window
unit
does
not
constitute
living
heated
living
space.
F
In
that
sense,
because
the
the
structure
itself
has
not
been
framed,
there's
still
the
garage
door,
there
might
be
insulation
issues
ETC
so
from
the
city's
building
code
it
wouldn't
be
considered
and
the
county
would
not
assess
it
as
heated
square
footage.
So
I
think
that's
where
the
kind
of
some
of
that
confusion
happened,
that
they
were.
F
You
know
told
that
perhaps
I
don't
know
by
whom
specifically,
but
that
it
may
or
may
not
qualify,
but
in
conversations
we
had
with
the
county
that
they
would
not
basically
assess
that,
and
so
that
would
not
count
towards
the
square
footage
and
it's
a
similar
practice
with
with
our
building
code
building
officials.
That's
not
considered,
you
know,
heated
living
space,
heated
and
cooled
living
space.
The.
F
I
believe
that's
the
distinction
yeah,
not
just
the
fact
that
it's
it's
conditioned,
you
know
it's
it
has
to
be.
There
are
other
qualifications
that
would
transfer
it
from
a
garage
to
part
of
the
struct
of
the
home.
Essentially
that's
my
understanding
anyway,
but
you
know
I'm
not
familiar
I.
R
Think
we
had
some,
let
me
defer
to
my
wife
but
I
think
we
had
some
correspondents.
That
said
it
was
under
who
under
roof
heated
and
conditioned
space
was
what
we
got
it.
It
didn't
say,
living
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
know,
semantics
are
real
important
and
you
know
but
I
think
that
was
the
correspondence
we
got.
R
Yes,
yes,
nothing
with
living,
and
that's
that's
why
I
came
to
us
okay,
we
do
we
spend
this
and
you
know
I
thought
we
had
done
due
diligence.
I
mean
obviously
there's
a
little
matter
of
semantics
here,
but
I
certainly
would
have
spent
the
money
in
all
this
endeavor.
If
I
thought,
I
was
gonna,
jeopardize
myself
and
you
know,
taking
the
structure
and
pushing
it
down
for
a
guy
that
wants
to
retire
there
and
to
house
my
wife's
Endeavors.
R
You
know
it's
I
know
200
square
feet,
we
say:
oh,
we
could
just
squish
down,
but
I'm
I'm,
an
Alberta
I
have
you
know
Five
drivers
soon
to
be
and
12
13
cars
and
I
paid
a
storm
and
I
don't
want
my
house
to
look
like
a
junkyard
and
they
are
true.
Sometimes
there
is
five
cars
out
in
a
lot.
Well
are
out
in
the
driveway,
I
mean
it's.
What
I
do
with
them?
I
spend
enough
money
as
it
is,
storing
them
and
here's
a
solution
for
the
neighborhood
they're
out
of
your.
R
R
P
Hi
once
again,
my
name
is
Mike
merhoff
204
sessions,
Drive,
so
just
a
very
quick,
quick
Viewpoint.
So
the
testimony
just
now
about
the
HOA
president
I'd
ask
you
to
pay
more
attention
to
the
letter
that
the
HOA
president
has
sent
to
you,
rather
than
the
testimony
of
the
applicant
I.
P
Don't
think
that's
fair
to
refer
to
her
comments
to
him
when
she
sent
you
a
letter
detailing
her
own
comments
as
a
as
a
homeowner,
neighbor,
and
also
the
HOA
president
I
think
the
applicant
just
stated
that
something
about
12
to
13
cars
and
up
to
now
all
I've
heard,
was
seven
cars,
so
I'm
curious
how
we're
suddenly
up
to
12
or
13
cars,
and
if
we're
going
to
have
12
or
13
cars
by
my
math,
they
have
a
two-car
garage
they're
going
to
have
a
four
car
garage.
P
If
this
is
built,
that's
six!
Where
are
the
other
seven
going
to
go
so
I
question
that
and
back
to
my
last
point
or
my
previous
points
about
the
fact
that
I
believe
this
is
a
commercial
nature.
H
Mr
chair,
so
that
we
can
enter
a
period
of
discussion,
but
thank
you,
sir
I
moved
to
approve
variance
to
section
3.4.2
Point
e
of
the
zoning
ordinance
to
permit
an
approximately
1300.
H
On
property,
Zone,
residential
single
family,
RS
15
in
general,
located
at
108,
Antietam,
Drive,
Southwest
that
the
location
and
design
of
the
structure.
Let
me
go
back
the
correct
item
number
one:
the
approximately
1300
square
feet,
I
corrected
to
say
not
to
exceed
1360
square
feet.
K
A
G
Well,
I
think
the
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
here
is
I
mean
there's
clearly
a
lot
of
antipathy
with
the
home.
Unfortunately,
with
the
homeowners
group
and
and
the
applicant
that
I'm
just
trying
to
compartmentalize
I
mean
those
are
hurdles
that
this
applicant's
going
to
have
to
deal
with
I
think,
regardless
of
what
what
we
come
up
with
I
think
it
I
mean,
even
if
we
were
to
deny
this
variance
and
and
and
force
the
applicant
to
go
back
with
something
that's
slightly
smaller.
G
The
homeowners
group
is
still
going
to
have
a
petition
in
front
of
them
to
build
this
garage,
that's
not
significantly
smaller,
so
all
their
concerns
and
doubts,
and
all
that
you
know
these
two
parties
are
going
to
have
to
come
together
and
and
deal
with.
But
that's
not
what
I'm
trying
to
concern
myself
with
so
the
the
compelling
thing
for
me
is
is
generally
I
would
have
told
this
homeowner
that
hey
you're
just
going
to
have
to
shrink
the
size
of
the
garage.
G
It's
not
a
huge
sacrifice,
but
you
know
the
the
issue
around
being
led
to
believe
that
they
had
come
up
with
a
workaround
to
that
and
I
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
if
they
didn't
believe
that
or
weren't
told
that
that
they
would
have
invested
the
you
wouldn't
be
heating,
your
garage
for
nothing
I
mean
that
they
clearly
got
that
inference
somewhere.
G
G
K
John
Mr,
chairman
I
I,
agree
with
Brendan's
point
of
view:
I've
had
three
teenage
kids
and
I've
I've
managed
a
fleet
of
six
or
five
family
vehicles
in
a
in
a
1940
truck
making,
six
and
and
I
I
get
all
that.
You
know,
I
I
appreciate
that.
However,
we've
got
to
look
at
the
criteria.
K
At
least
I
am
when
I'm
forming
my
decision
here
and
we
have
got
to
base
our
decision
on
these
six
criteria
for
variance
and
I
find
three.
Four
of
them
are
questionable,
but
the
one
that
really
I
can't
I
I
think
they
they
don't
meet
is
for
conditions
were
not
the
result
of
the
applicant's
own
actions.
K
They're
they're
good,
but
their
inability
to
do
that
to
me
kind
of
I
can't
based
on
on
that
the
size.
C
H
That
I,
really
that
and
and
the
applicant
got
the
package
yes
I
made.
The
motion
I
want
to
get
out
here
to
discuss
for
the
record,
but
the
applicant
and
those
the
owners
must
understand
that
a
variance
must
meet
all
six
criteria,
not
five
out
of
six,
not
four
out
of
six.
All
that
correct,
Mr,
Jerry.
A
H
I
I
think
with
what's
being
said.
If
you
downsize
the
size
of
the
building
to
meet
the
ordinance,
then
you
would
not
be
unreasonably
restricted
in
the
utilization
of
your
property
and
again
I
go
back
to
the
point
that
all
six
requirements
must
be
met.
I
The
frustration
I
have
is
with
the
due
diligence,
because
I
I
have
no
doubt
due
diligence
was
done
and
I
think
everybody's
intent
is
in
the
right
direction
and
so
far
as
getting
the
information
from
the
sources
they
trusted.
I
You
know
as
I
think
John
said
that
no
or
perhaps
it
was
you
Brendan
you,
you
don't
just
arbitrarily
heat
a
garage
just
for
the
fun
of
it,
there's
a
there's,
a
reason
for
it
that's
an
additional
expense,
and
that
was
based
on
information
that
they
were
given.
I
just
wish
that
there
was
a
bit
of
a
paper
trail
for
that,
not
so
much
to
point
fingers
or
to
lay
blame,
but
it's
it
obviously
has
led
to
a
series
of
events.
I
That's
got
us
here,
I,
concur
that
I
too
agree
that
three
of
these
are
not
met.
These
criteria
are
critical
and
we
have
to
be.
We
have
to
go
by
that,
but
I
did
want
to
point
out
for
the
record
that
in
the
future
it
would
be
helpful
and
we
trust
you
know
a
word
of
not
necessarily
word
of
mouth
but
information
that
we
communicate
just
through
phone
calls
or
in
person.
I
But
I
I
also
want
to
put
a
little
bit
of
the
responsibility
on
the
Builder
and
the
people
that
were
hired,
that
if
that
was
verbalized
that
this
this
information
from
pointed
out,
Mike
Jordan,
for
example,
that
needed
to
be
written
down
somewhere,
because
this
has
created
a
huge
discrepancy
that
has
led
us
here.
I
I'm,
not
the
only
thing
I
will
say
about
the
HOA
side
of
it
is
that
I
hear
all
of
it
and
I
think
taking
the
HOA
out
of
the
picture
as
a
as
a
group
we've
had,
we've
had
feedback
from
residents
and
people
in
the
area
before
and
we've
taken
that
into
consideration.
We
hear
them.
So
it's
not
that
we're
disregarding
that
I
think
we've
all
heard
everybody's
concerns,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
to
rule
for
what
you
know
the
city
ordinance
is
and
what
it
isn't.
I
A
C
C
A
A
C
A
A
We've
got
a
number
of
items
here
to
us
from
the
homeowners
association.
That's
basically
say
they
have
not
been
informed.
They
don't
know
anything
about
this
on.