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From YouTube: Aiken City Council Special Meeting: June 20, 2016
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A
A
Father
we
thank
you
for
this
day.
We
thank
you
for
this
time
for
this
time
that
you've,
given
us
this
appointed
hour
that
we
come
together
to
tend
to
the
business
of
our
city,
we
ask
that
your
blessings
would
be
upon
us.
We
ask
that
everything
that
would
be
said
and
done
here
Lord
would
be
pleasing
in
a
manner
that
represents
what
we
know
that
you'd
want
us
to
represent.
A
Okay,
just
to
briefly
go
over
the
guidelines
of
our
meeting
tonight.
Meetings
are
a
public
forum
and
in
which
many
opinions
are
expressing.
The
business
of
the
city
must
be
conducted
as
such
discipline,
honorable
and
professional
decorum
is
paramount.
Courteous
and
respectful,
respectful
communication
is
expected
during
public
hearings.
All
questions
and
statements
from
the
public
shall
be
directed
to
the
chair.
If
you
wish,
you
speak,
raise
your
hand
and
I
will
certainly
recognize
you.
A
Please
approach
the
podium
and
state
your
name
and
address,
and
in
order
to
allow
opportunity
for
everyone
who
wishes
to
address
Council
Speaker
should
limit
their
comments
to
the
subject
being
discussed.
Each
speaker
will
be
given
five
minutes
to
address
an
issue
and
may
only
address
an
issue
once
and
less
questions
from
Council
or
pose
to
the
speaker.
A
And
moving
down
the
agenda
under
old
business
for
further
consideration
number
one
is
a
second
reading
of
public
hearing
of
an
ordinance
establishing
a
vehicle
maintenance
fee
for
the
city
of
aiken
by
title
and
ordinance
amending
the
city's
bacon
city
code
to
establish
the
road
maintenance
fee.
Is
there
a
motion.
B
A
A
C
D
D
As
a
matter
of
fact,
when
I
was
interviewed
for
this
job,
our
infrastructure
was
highlighted
as
a
major
area
of
weakness
and
neglected,
a
major
area
that
needed
immediate
attention
and
then
last
fall
during
the
race
for
mayor
infrastructure
was
listed
as
one
of
the
important
issues
that
needed
to
be
addressed.
With
the
election
of
our
new
mayor
and
the
drafting
of
a
new
city
council
strategic
plan,
you
identified
the
need
to
address
infrastructure
as
one
of
our
collective
highest
priorities
in
the
area
of
roads.
D
D
We
most
recently
had
a
presentation
by
mr.
Rick
tool,
professional
engineer
who
was
present
this
evening,
who
presented
to
us
a
comprehensive
pavement
management
system
for
our
consideration
with
more
than
80,000
systems
of
government
in
this
country.
Putting
together
a
roads
program
is
neither
a
unique
or
a
complicated
issue.
The
pavement
management
system
envisioned
represents
national
standards
and
best
practices
for
municipal
roads
program
around
the
country.
We
are
prepared
once
again
for
the
third
time
to
both
discuss
the
need
for
and/or
the
components
of
our
comprehensive
road
programs.
D
We
know
that
roads
are
assets
that
need
to
be
taken
care
of
to
be
maintained.
We
know
that
the
cost
of
deferred
maintenance
fire
exceeds
the
cost
of
preventive
maintenance,
and
we
know
that
our
neglect
will
place
future
residents
in
financial
jeopardy
if
we
don't
begin
to
take
care
of
our
infrastructure
system.
D
Over
the
past
year,
we
looked
at
a
variety
of
funding
options
which
started
with
the
possibility
of
budget
cuts
which
are
included
in
this
budget
proposal.
That
is
before
you.
We
cut
personnel
and
expenses
in
a
wide
variety
of
departments,
but,
as
all
of
you
know,
we
were
also
challenged
with
new
and
unforeseen
increases.
D
Vehicles
need
to
be
replaced
that
we've
set
aside
sufficient
money
to
fund
those
annual
needs.
We
were
also
asked
by
more
than
a
few,
for
example,
why
we
don't
use
the
hospitality
tax
for
roads,
since
it
is
a
tax
that
has
been
passed
in
used
by
residents.
Our
roads
are
used
by
residents
and
visitors
alike.
Why
not
use
the
hospitality
tax
that
is
paid
for
by
both
our
residents
and
our
visitors?
D
D
Quite
frankly,
many
have
asked
a
simple
question:
why
haven't
we
implemented
a
Rhodes
program
years
ago
and
why
haven't
we
implemented
a
comprehensive
infrastructure
program
years
ago
in
Aiken?
The
truth
is
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
question
is,
but
that
does
not
excuse
us
from
acting
now.
D
We've
talked
about
the
issue
these
issues
for
a
year.
The
sentiment
has
been
that
we
should
take
up
this
issue
at
budget
time.
I
hope
that
all
of
you
will
agree
that
it
is
time
to
implement
a
rhodes
program
in
the
city
of
aiken,
while
the
cost
of
implementation
is
significant
costs
to
defer
yet
again
is
even
more
mr.
mayor.
The
can
has
been
kicked
long
enough.
A
E
Thank
you
for
mr.
mayor
and
council
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
you.
I
am
concerned
about
the
aggressive
nature
of
the
tax
increases
that
you
are
proposing.
I,
don't
certainly
don't
object
to
them,
but
what
I
am
and
objecting
to
is
the
fact
that
there
are
a
number
of
groups
of
people
within
the
city
that
are
slipping
through
the
cracks
and
are
not
carrying
their
fair
share
of
the
tax
burden.
E
E
E
The
second
group
are
a
number
of
people
that
live
in
South
Carolina,
live
in
the
state
and
city,
but
fail
to
register
their
vehicles
here
they
do
so
because
there
was
a
relatively
high
tax
on
the
vehicles
and
they
know
they
can
avoid
the
tax
by
not
registering
their
vehicles
and
they
simply
get
away
with
it.
I
saw
this
begin
to
develop
when
I
worked
at
the
center
of
sight
in
nineteen
89,
it
was
a
change
in
contract.
E
A
lot
of
new
people
came
to
town,
some
of
them
quite
brazen,
and
they
did
not
register
to
the
vehicles.
The
problem
has
only
gotten
worse
since
then:
I
rode
through
two
apartment
complexes
last
week
and
counted
188
cars
that
were
registered
in
South
Carolina.
In
addition
to
that,
I
counted
27
vehicles
that
were
registered
out
of
state
that's
more
than
fourteen
percent.
That's
a
significant
number
and
I
do
not
believe
that
all
those
are
visitors.
E
They
are
people
who
know
exactly
what
they're
doing
and
they're
avoiding
the
tax
by
avoiding
that
being
in
the
basement.
You
may
say
that
that's
not
in
your
belly
workers
out
of
your
preview,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
the
case,
because
in
fact
it
affects
the
tax
base
and
secondly,
as
I
understand
it.
E
My
point
is
that
you
really
taken
the
easy
route
so
far
and
that
you
are
taxing
the
people
that
are
willing
to
pay
and
I.
Don't
have
any
problem
with
the
road
tax.
I.
Don't
have
any
problem
with
increasing
the
benefits
of
this
in
the
city
and
improving
the
infrastructure
and
I.
Don't
think
many
people
do
it's
just
that
we
will
see
a
fairness,
and
we
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
people
that
are
avoiding
the
tax
base
and
you
all
have
the
power
to
change
that
you
can
do
it.
E
Consequently,
what
I
am
suggesting
to
put
some
pressure
on
you
is
that
you
not
implement
any
new
taxes
until
you
really
bite
the
bullet
and
go
after
these
freeloaders
and
that's
exactly
what
they
are
they're
freeloaders
they're
benefiting
from
the
city
and
not
willing
to
pay
the
taxes.
That
would
be
a
great
service
to
people
in
the
city
into
the
county
into
the
state
I.
F
F
G
F
A
F
An
issue
I
want
to
dress
our
city
manager
on
this
tax.
You
know
I've
done
budgets
for
40
years,
I
had
a
vector
down
in
Nairobi,
Kenya
I
had
a
guy
from
MIT,
he
came
in
and
he
could
always
identify
the
problem,
but
he
could
never
solve
the
problem.
He
was
a
master
even
till
he
had
stacks
of
problems,
but
he
could
always
identify.
A
conservative
budget
is
one
that
you
take
the
money
that
you've
got
and
then
you
match
it
to
in
a
conservative
matter.
F
F
You
know
tax,
it
was
just
an
added
on
tax
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
appropriate,
you
know,
you'll
have
something
else
going.
You
know
what
all
these
little
white
pickups
running
around.
Why
didn't
somebody
get
a
half
load
of
coal
asphalt
and
start
passing
some
of
these
potholes?
It's
just
I
think
it's
think
you
can
find
a
different
way
to
approach.
A
conservative
like
you.
A
H
C
H
D
The
vehicle
maintenance
that
the
maintenance
fee
is
for
the
rip
here
of
existing
city
roads,
ok,
simply
to
fund
the
maintenance
program
for
the
roads
that
we
now
have
the
franchise
fee.
The
proposal
for
the
franchise
fee
is
to
construct
new
roads.
For
example,
there
are
several
proposals
to
significantly
alleviate
the
traffic
on
whiskey
road
and
so,
but
you
asked
the
question:
is
it
only
for
roads?
The
program
design
is
for
roads
and
infrastructure,
which
might
mean
sidewalks
bike
paths
or
anything
else.
D
A
I
Nick
ingles,
nylon
and
alfred
street
a
couple
comments
and
questions,
but
the
maintenance
fee,
I'm
I'm,
all
for
putting
you
guys
forward
to
a
particularly
a
progressive
plan
to
fix
the
roads,
which
they
are
definitely
need.
Maintenance
and
I
assume
that
they're
going
to
go
towards
a
lot
of
through
fair
roads,
the
main
roads
in
that
such
as
York
whiskey.
You
know
pine
log
and
Brooke
to
the
main
roads
such
as
those
but
in
my
particular
condition.
I
I,
don't
live
on
a
city-owned
Rhode
Island
on
a
state
maintained
Road
and
when
I
pay
this
fee
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
getting
the
most
bang
for
our
buck
sort
of,
but
if
there
is
a
condition
that
arises
where
everyone
agrees
that
a
not
City
maintained,
Road
needs
to
be
maintained,
the
state
isn't
doing
a
well
job
with
it
could
be
theoretically
used
for
those
conditions
or
as
a
state,
strictly
dissipate
at
well.
It.
A
I
I
I
A
L
Name
is
Maggie
Walker
live
at
five-thirty,
whiskey,
road
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
while
I'm
not
exactly
thrilled
about
the
twenty
dollar
tax
I
do
support
it
and
hope
there
to
go
quickly
and
aggressively
to
building
and
repairing
the
roads
and
taking
care
of
the
infrastructure.
Thank
you.
Funky,
like
this
woman.
M
They
were
worried
because
they
are
on
fixed
incomes
and
young
families
that
are
just
starting
out
having
to
have
two
vehicles,
both
working
both
need
a
vehicle
and
having
to
pay
the
fee
for
each
vehicle
and
already
struggling,
and
then
the
other
type
was
the
families
that
have
two
vehicles
for
the
husband
and
wife
and
then
to
have
a
teenager
there
in
a
home
that
they
are
trying
to
teach
responsibility
and
having
to
get
an
additional
vehicle
and
pay
that
fee
on
that
as
well.
I'm,
not
against
the
fee.
M
I
know
that
we
have
to
be
proactive.
I
was
just
concerned
that
might
be
a
little
bit
too
much
or
the
number
of
vehicles
that
a
family
has
for
those
who
have
three
big
vehicles
that
could
present
a
hardship
but
I
know.
We
are
tired
of
all
tired
of
traveling.
On
crumbling
roads
and
just
the
thought
of
them
getting
any
worse
concerns
all
of
us.
C
N
Answer
is
yes,
and
no
there's
so
many
factors
that
go
into
that.
If
you're,
this
is
not
your
primary
residence.
However,
there
is
a
program
that
the
county
does
go
through.
Neighborhoods
goes
through
apartment
complexes
to
identify
these
areas
that
the
gentleman
address
earlier
and
we
we
do
enforce
this
law
on
a
regular
basis.
When
we
come
in
contact
with
people
may
be
accidents
or
maybe
a
different,
maybe
traffic
citation
or
something
to
that
effect.
I.
C
O
M
G
J
The
language
that
is
in
there
with
those
exemptions
tracks
verbatim
the
language
in
the
county
they
and
just
to
keep
it
consistent
with
people
who
are
already
paying
it
in
the
county
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
same
exemption
is
applied
in
the
city
that
apply
in
the
county.
That's
why
it's
trapped
in
that
way.
This.
M
J
Exemptions
apply
to
antique
cars
that
are
exempt
from
the
payment
of
the
road
maintenance
fee.
It
also
goes
into
detail
about
a
wartime
disabled
veteran
who
may
be
entitled
to
compensation
for
the
loss
of
legs
and
arms.
That
sort
of
thing
it
goes
into
more
detail
than
that,
but
those
are
really
the
two
exemptions
that
apply
to
the
faith.
C
J
J
C
I
would
say
finally
that
we
ought
to
make
an
effort,
not
not
any
time
soon,
because
the
county
has
its
own
budget
issues,
but
we
ought
to
make
an
effort
to
recognize
that
they're
taking
a
lot
of
money
from
City
residents
and
it's
not
coming
back.
It's
staying
in
the
county
for
maintenance
of
County
roads,
there's
only
two
miles
of
county
roads
in
the
city
limits.
Fairness
would
dictate
that
that
they
provide
some
of
that
money,
which
is
about
almost
half
a
million
dollars
to
the
city.
A
O
First,
as
you
all
know,
and
his
public
who
knows,
I
voted
against
this,
and
the
franchise
fee
increase
on
first
reading
and
impaired
to
vote
against
both
on
second
reading,
although
I
think
there's
some
credit
that
should
be
given
on
to
our
city
manager
and
mayor
and
others,
for
taking
the
bull
by
the
horns
on
something
that
is
an
absolute
responsibility
that
the
city
has.
This
is
not
an
optional
thing:
it's
an
obligation.
O
If
we
don't,
if
we
didn't
know
that
before
we
certainly
had
that
front
and
center
during
the
discussions
about
the
gym
lakes
extension
roads
problems,
this
is
not
something
that
we
can
sweep
under
the
rug
or
avoid.
I
don't
happen
to
agree
with
the
method
of
funding.
I
think
this
is
a
maybe
a
more
regressive
tax
than
I'm
comfortable
with
I.
O
You
know
it
just
seems
to
hit
them
hardest,
so,
while
I
will
jealously
defend
the
priorities
that
this
council
has
placed
on
these
tags
on
these
fee
increases
and
I
think
has
taken
courage
from
all
counseling
from
the
city
manager
to
initiate
it.
I
don't
agree
with
the
particular
funding
methods,
so
I
still
plan
to
vote
against
it,
but
I
do
say
that
that
taking
responsibility
for
what
we
are
responsible
for
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
K
Will
tell
you
that
I
I
struggle
with
this
and
several
folks
on
in
the
publican
and
my
colleagues
on
council
know
that
I
struggle
with
this
proposed
increase
both
with
the
franchise
fee,
and
this
point
all
fee
I've
received
calls
from
individuals
that
are
opposed
to
it
and
in
my
asking
for
options
whatever
option
I
present
it.
It
was
rejected
whether
it
was
decreasing
yet
to
$15
ten
dollars.
They
wanted
no
fee
and
I've
SAT
here
longer
than
anyone
here
on
so
John
and
part
of
the
process
of
kicking
the
can
down
the
road.
K
Don't
mind
telling
you
I'm
up
for
re-election
next
year
and
as
a
person
that's
up
for
re-election.
I
can
do
the
things
that
I'm
pushed
to
do
and
say
I'm
not
going
to
support
this,
because
the
voters
will
not
support
me
if
I
don't
go
along
with
with
this
this
increase,
but
that
would
not
be
the
right
thing
to
do.
That's
what
many
have
done
over
the
years
kicking
the
can
down.
The
road
I've
talked
with
folks
who,
who
have
told
me
their
cars,
have
gotten
out
of
line.
K
They
busted
tires
and
you
have
to
assume
the
cost
of
a
busted
tire
on
a
bad
road
and
your
car
needing
realignment
and
look
at
the
factors
that
are
involved
there.
So
with
that,
I
am
NOT
going
to
kick
the
kind
that
can
down
the
road
I'll
get
some
I,
no
comments
more
comments
about
it,
but
I
will
support
this.
Twenty
dollar
increase
and
I
will
support
the
the
franchise
fee.
Thank.
A
You
can
small
in
price,
alright,
no
further
comments,
all
those
in
favor
begin
to
reread.
This
is
second
reading,
a
public
hearing
of
an
ordinance
establishing
a
vehicle
maintenance
fee
for
the
city
of
Aiken
Nord,
submitting
this
Aiken
city
code
to
establish
the
road
maintenance
fee.
All
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
hand,
let's
council,
on
the
price,
councilman
homoki
councilman
de
war
cuz
when
edner
in
the
mirror,
all
those
in
counseling
dicks
all
those
opposed,
councilman
fight,
I'm,
sorry
sit
close,
bury.
A
All
the
cross
and
it
passes
you've
been
cold.
Oh
heck
yeah.
Thank
you
number
200
businesses,
the
second
reading
and
public
hearing
of
an
ordinance
amending
the
franchise
agreement
with
Aiken
electrical
cooperative
by
title.
This
is
an
ordinance
amending
ordinance,
number
02,
08
99
a
to
increase
the
franchise
fee
owned
by
a
candlelit
record
of
their
emotion,
I.
D
Mr.
mayor,
as
you
know,
through
numerous
discussions
that
we've
had
in
public
workshops
over
the
past
few
months,
the
second
part
of
our
budget
proposals
include
a
request
for
funding
for
what
we
call
the
transportation
in
Public
Safety,
Improvement
Program,
it's
very
clear
and
talking
about
some
of
our
community
needs
that
there
are
opportunities
out
there
with
no
funding
for
the
construction
of
new
roads,
for
example,
to
alleviate
traffic
congestion
in
terms
of
the
issues
that
I
that
we've
all
heard
about
over
the
last
year,
litter
being
one
road
maintenance
and
infrastructure
being
another
traffic.
D
Congestion
is
an
issue
that
we
continue
to
to
hear
about
in
Aiken
and
very
specifically,
as
surrounding
the
whiskey
road
corridor.
We've
also
had
many
requests
from
citizens
to
consider
putting
in
sidewalks
to
ensure
the
safety
of
our
youngsters
walking
in
the
neighborhood.
There's
been
a
put
big
push
in
terms
of
where
we're
headed
into
it
towards
the
future.
D
For
for
bike
paths
and
walking
trails,
there's
been
the
very
strong
interest
in
continuing
our
program
of
underground
utilities
and
the
truth
is,
while
all
of
those
are
fine
and
needed,
there's
no
funding
source
to
tackle
any
of
them.
The
truth
is
out
of
all
of
those
things
that
I
mentioned.
That's
what
that's
only
the
transportation
part
of
the
program,
the
others,
the
public
safety
part
of
the
program
and
sidewalk
certainly
would
be
included
in
that.
D
But
we
also
know,
although
we
don't
know
what
the
answer
is
yet
that
we're
going
to
be
facing
a
major
request
for
funding
to
deal
with
a
antiquated
and,
quite
frankly,
embarrassing
facility
that
we
call
our
Department
of
Public
Safety
headquarters
doesn't
be
code,
doesn't
meet
requirements,
isn't
meeting
the
department's
needs
today
to
remind
10
or
15
years
into
the
future,
and
so
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
requests
for
funding
to
to
undertake
a
major,
rehab
and
or
the
building
of
a
new
facility.
Whatever
this
council
decides
is
in
this
citizens
best
interest.
D
So
this
transportation
and
public
safety
program
was
designed
to
address
those.
Now
we
have
been
slow
to
respond
to
requests
for
issues
such
as
sidewalks
bike
paths,
undergrounding
utilities
and
the
like.
The
one
that
truthfully
is
of
greatest
concern
is
the
lack
of
funding
to
significantly
alleviate
some
of
our
traffic
congestion
problems
in
the
city
and
the
problem
with.
That
is
that
if
we
wait
too
long,
the
options
that
now
exist
to
acquire
land
to
work
with
property
owners
to
to
get
some
some
roads
built
will
be
foreclosed.
D
We
know
that
as
the
econ,
the
economy
and
the
in
the
marketplace
return
to
each
and
every
year
that
they'll
be
greater
and
greater
pressure
to
develop
land
remaining
land,
but
now
is
available
for
the
possibility
of
road
construction.
So
the
truth
is
is
that
if
we
don't
act
on
a
funding
source
to
construct
several
major
roads,
the
possibility
will
probably
be
foreclosed,
and
we
know
that
not
by
just
looking
into
our
crystal
ball.
D
We
know
that
by
talking
to
the
landowners
property
owners
that
are
willing
to
work
with
us,
but
are
at
a
point
with
the
return
of
our
economy,
that
there's
people
knocking
on
their
doors
and
decisions
will
be
made.
If
the
city
doesn't
act,
my
point
to
you
is
that
I
don't
think
as
a
city,
we
want
to
be
in
a
position
where,
for
the
next
30
years,
people
remind
us
on
a
weekly
basis.
You
know
if
we
had
just
worked
with
certain
property
owners,
we
could
have
dealt
with
the
issue
of
traffic
congestion.
D
That
we
could
be
looking
at
a
an
impact
of
a
reduction
of
up
to
thirty
percent
of
the
traffic
on
whiskey
road,
and
some
of
you
may
think
that
whiskey
road
needs
to
be
attended
to
in
some
of
you
may
not.
The
fact
is
with
the
growth
that
continues
along
that
corridor.
There
is
reason
to
believe
that,
if
you
don't
think
a
whiskey
road
has
a
problem,
wait
five
or
ten
years
and
ask
yourself
whether
there's
a
problem,
and
the
truth
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
other
communities
that
we
could
have
pointed
to.
D
D
Some
of
the
information
is
still
protected
in
executive
session
because
we're
dealing
with
negotiations
with
landowners,
but
that's
the
purpose
of
the
transportation
and
public
safety
improvement
program
to
try
to
be
more
responsive
to
our
citizens
that
are
asking
for
sidewalks
and
bike
paths
and
underground
utilities,
and
asking
us
to
do
something
about
some
of
our
major
corridors
where
traffic
congestion
in
safety,
quite
frankly,
is
becoming
an
important.
We
have
here,
as
I
mentioned,
a
mr.
D
H
I'm
back
again
my
name
is
Lane
Bradford.
Is
you
live
in
the
county,
but
between
my
father
and
myself
and
other
family
members,
we
own
quite
a
few
pieces
of
parcels
inside
the
city
and
issue
that
him
and
I
also
know
Nathan
counseling
group
together,
and
you
know,
I'm
going
to
hit
on
a
few
different
points
here,
but
the
first
one
is
that
there
was
a
talk
about.
H
H
You
know
somebody
might
say:
well
it's
only
two
percent,
that's
it
it's
not
much,
but
for
our
building
that
we're
located
and
that
would
have
put
laid
out
to
four
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
a
year
extra
that
we're
going
to
be
paying
in
and
we're
not
getting
any
more
money
for
many
other
sources,
we're
stuck
with
what
we
have.
So
it
really
kind
of
titans
things
in
for
us
and
makes
us
work.
It
out
now
and
we
hope
we
can
keep
on
working.
You
know
if
the
fees
keep
them
going
up.
H
Then
they've
got
now
this
additional
two
percent
on
top
of
that,
and
it
just
keeps
adding
up,
and
you
have
to
sit
back
at
some
point
and
say
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
put
my
business
in
the
city
or
does
it
make
sense
to
put
it
in
the
county?
It's
something
that
you
know
I.
Think
as
we
keep
on
adding
these
fees
and
taxes
that
we
need
to
really
kind
of
consider
the
question
I've
got
for
you
is
the
Capital
Improvement
funds,
the
one
percent
for
that?
Why
are
we
not
looking
at
using
that?
H
You
know
the
other
issue.
I've
got
with
this
tax,
or
these
fees
is
that
it's
not
really
laid
out
exactly.
We
took
you
know
mr.
you
talked
about
where
there'd
be
used
for,
but
you
know
I
remember
when
we
talked
about
the
hospitality
tax.
There
was
talk
about
you
know
and
we
were
told
we're
going
to
give
new
businesses.
You
know
a
rebate
on
their
licensing
fee.
You
know,
is
somebody
it's
a
hundred
percent
first
year,
75,
the
second
50,
the
third
I
called
the
licensing
department
today
and
I
said.
So.
H
Where
do
we
stand
on
that?
They
said?
Well,
we
didn't
want
to
really.
You
know.
Council
has
a
lot
going
on,
so
he
sent
to
a
sub
count
committee
and
it's
taken
committee.
It
hasn't
came
out
Isis.
Is
there
any
plan
for
that
to
come
out?
He
says
no
not
at
this
time,
and
that
was
part
of
what
the
hospitality
tax
was
sold.
As
you
know,
we
were
going
to
help
trail,
businesses
and
other
things
along
those
lines
and
now
we're
finding
out
that.
That's
not
really
the
case.
H
It's
never
went
anywhere
and
you
know
we
talked
about
having
a
couple
meetings
for
people
to
have
input
on
this
and
I
read
the
standard
every
day
and
I
looked
on
the
city's
website
and
I
did
not
see
any
informational
meetings.
I
saw
the
meeting
about
the
budget,
but
it
was
talked
about
at
that
point,
but
not
even
beatings
for
really
citizens
to
come,
say
I'm
for
this
I'm
against
this
here's.
Why
and
I
think
it'd
be
prudent.
H
We
did
and
I
hate
to
keep
on
going
back
hospitality
tax,
but
we
did
that,
but
there
really
wasn't
a
list
of
what
was
going
to
be
what
a
prepared
food
was
and
I
was
the
one
that
was
at
fresh
market
that
bought
tea
bags
and
got
charged
to
hospitality
tax
on
a
tea
bag.
You
know-
and
that
was
before
the
list
was
put
up
on
the
site-
saying
here's
what
it's
for
here's,
what
you
can
charge
what
you
cannot
charge.
H
So
I
think
you
know
to
be
really
good
for
council
to
sit
down
and
say:
okay,
here's
the
exact
projects
we
want
to
do
with
this
franchise
fees.
Here's
how
much
they're
going
to
cost
very
much
like
the
capital
improvements
where
you
guys
say
here
is
what
we're
going
to
do
this,
how
much
it's
going
to
cost-
and
you
know
going
back
to
the
capital
prevalence
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
it
may
not.
It
may
have
some
resistance
when
it
comes
up
for
a
vote
again.
H
People
are
feeling
like
you're
taxing
here:
they're,
nickel
and
dime
nickel
and
dime
naman
dime
and
automatic
eventually
becomes
a
whole
dollar.
So
you
know
I,
maybe
instead
of
rushing
into
this
sitting
down
and
actually
putting
together
planned
posting
on
the
website.
Having
some
median
saying
this
is
exactly
what
we're
going
to
use
the
money
for
it
won't
be
used
for
anything
over
here
over
here.
H
This
is
what
we're
going
to
use
it
for,
and
that
way
we
kind
of
know
the
two
percent,
where
it's
going,
how
it's
going
to
be
spent
and
there's
some
accountability.
I
mean
I-
do
have
to
admit
that
I
was
very
upset
today
when
I
talk
to
business,
license
people
that
you
know
that
was
never
acted
upon,
and
that
was
one
thing
that,
as
I
said,
council
did
say:
there's
going
to
be
in
there.
Let.
H
M
C
M
C
It
was
that
was
a
reason
given
for
passing
of
the
hospitality
tax.
When
we
sat
down,
I
couldn't
come
up
with
anything
fair.
I
chair
the
finance
and
administration
committee.
I
can't
come
up
with
a
fair,
fair
way
to
to
put
in
a
business
license
tax
rebate,
that
we
have
the
money
for
number
one,
and
it
would
be
fair
to
the
existing
businesses.
I
mean
if
you
you,
if
you've
got
a
business
and
all
of
a
sudden,
a
competitor
moves
next
door,
that
business
gets
a
benefit
from
the
government
and
the
business
has
been.
C
H
C
As
was
the
garage
at
the
time,
but
please
keep
in
mind
that
the
business
in
defense,
hospitality
tax
is
online.
It's
the
amount
of
money
we
get
in
is
posted
online
on
the
monthly
basis
and
what
we
do
with
it
is
posted
or-
and
we
can
only
spend
it
in
accordance
with
the
law
and
that's
what
we're
doing
and
I.
G
H
Part
of
the
sale
and
now
that
part
of
the
sales,
not
there
you
know
outside
where
I
remember
back
in
the
day
when
we
had
the
hospitality
tax
before
the
this
new
one,
it
was
said
if
we
passed
capital
improvements
will
get
rid
of
the
hospitality
tax
and
then
counseled
for
all
the
hospitality
tax
back.
You
know
we
were
told.
H
H
You
know
kind
of
going
for
you
know
these
fees
do
not
attract
businesses
or
young
professionals
to
move
into
the
city
and
I
think
it
really
would
behoove
Council
to
sit
back.
Lay
this
out
a
little
bit
better
present
it
in
a
couple
open
forums
before
the
vote
is
taken
on
this
and
it's
pushed
through.
H
You
know
somebody
talked
about
the
donut
holes
a
little
bit
earlier.
We
talked
about
the
car
tax
in
the
car
fees.
You
know
question
I've
got
for
you
is.
If
this
keeps
going
and
going
and
going
is
there
a
way
for
somebody
to
annex
himself
out
of
the
city?
You
know
because
you're
paying
taxes,
you
know,
county
taxes,
city
counts,
access,
you've
got
all
these
different
ones
coming
on
and
that's
question
I've
got
is:
is
there
a
way
for
somebody
to
annex
out
of
the
city
if
this
keeps
on
going
and
I?
H
Think
that's
saying
that
council
needs
to
really
think
about.
You
know
you
can
only
bleed
the
pig
for
so
long
and
in
you
know,
we're
really
starting
to
feel
the
pressure.
So
I
would
implore
counsel
to
please
put
this
out.
Have
some
informational
meetings
clearly
lay
out
where
the
money
is
going
to
go
and
so
that
we
know
that
not
that
we
have
things
that
you
know
if
you
pass
this
we're
going
to
do
this,
but
then
it
never
comes
to
fruition.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
You,
Lane.
A
All
right,
this
is
second
reading
a
public
hearing,
an
ordinance
amending
the
franchise
agreement
with
akin
electric
co-op
again,
the
by
title,
an
ordinance
amending
ordinance,
number
02,
08,
99
a
to
increase
the
franchise
fee
owned
by
a
current
electric
cooperative,
all
those
in
favor.
Second
reading,
it's
councilman
price
councilman
hinoki
council
on
the
digs
councilman
to
ward
councilman,
editor
the
mayor
for
all
those
opposed
house
with
Mary.
Thank
you
moving
down
to
number
three.
A
B
A
Number
400
business
is
the
second
reading
public
hearing
of
an
ordinance
to
set
the
millage
rate
for
fiscal
year,
2016-17
by
title,
an
ordinance
to
provide
the
levy
of
taxes
for
for
ordinary
city
purposes
in
the
city
of
aiken.
For
the
fiscal
year
beginning
july,
one
2016
set
the
millage
at
62
mills
and
to
provide
for
the
expenditures
thereof.
Is
there
a
motion.
D
From
staff
mr.
mayor
every
year,
the
aiken
city
council
adopts
a
budget
for
the
following
fiscal
year
by
a
separate
ordinance.
Council
sets
a
millage
rate
to
ensure
proper
revenue
to
meet
anticipated
budget
expenditures.
Based
upon
the
information
we
have
at
this
time,
we
appear
prepared
to
proceed
with
continuing
our
millage
rate
at
62
Mills,
the
amount
that
we
can
adjust.
Our
millage
rate
is
governed
by
state
law.
At
this
time,
the
value
of
a
mill
is
167,000,
ten
dollars,
which
is
thirty
seven
point.
D
A
B
Mr.
mayor,
like
for
vista
beaten
by
to
show
a
graph
that
I
had
made
up
a
couple
years
ago,
it's
that's
not
only
the
city
finances,
but
there's
been
a
number
of
comments
about
the
people
how
to
fix
them.
The
effect
is
the
same,
is
the
same
ratio?
If
you
will,
this
came
from
the
previous
city
manager
mood
a
little
bit
sugar
yeah
and
you
can
see
from
2008
forward.
Are
they
were?
B
There
were
no
tax
increases
and,
of
course
the
hospitality
attack
was
last
year,
and
then
we
have
the
two
taxes
this
year,
you
can
see
the
blue
line,
and
then
you
see
the
red
line
is
a
to.
Perez
is
a
two
percent
inflation
rate
and
you
can
argue
it
up
or
down,
but
the
lines
just
get
further
apart.
That
affects
all
of
us
that
are
sitting
in
the
room
and
all
the
citizens
really
not
beyond
the
city
of
Aiken.
I
just
wanted
to
point
this
out.
This
is
what
is
occurring
in
the
city.
B
P
C
P
G
A
G
Q
K
Q
K
Q
K
Know
right
and
we
have
constantly
reduced
that
millage
rate
and
I.
Don't
know
that
the
public
understands
the
impact
of
reducing
that
rate
and
what
has
had
on
the
long-term
planning
of
our
city
and
dollars
to
operate
effectively
our
city
with
road
maintenance
and
all
those
other
things,
because
we've
constantly
because
of
public
input
reduced.
That
rate
to
where
it
is
right.
Now,
in
six
of
two
wheels
for
hundreds
of
miles.
P
G
G
A
Again
to
restate
this
is
an
ordinance
revived
for
the
levy
of
Texas
for
ordinary
city
/
positions
in
the
city
of
aiken,
for
the
fiscal
year
beginning
to
allow
one
2016
set
the
millage
at
62
mills
and
to
provide
for
the
expenditures
thereof,
all
those
in
favor
and
that's
unanimous.
Thank
you
moving
to
number
five
under
old
business.
A
This
is
second
reading
and
public
hearing
loving
ordinance,
adopting
a
budget
proposed
by
the
city
manager,
containing
estimates
of
proposed
revenues
and
expenditures
by
the
city
of
aiken
for
the
fiscal
year,
beginning
july,
one
2016
and
ending
june
30
of
2017
and
declaring
that
it
shall
constitute
the
budget
of
the
city
of
Aiken.
Is
there
a
motion
I
so.
D
You
are
well
aware
that
this
is
our
actually
our
ninth
meeting
I
discuss
our
budget,
the
first
three
a
dealt
with
the
format
of
the
budget
itself,
which
had
been
changed
in
many
decades,
and
we
now
have
a
format
that
is
much
more
in
accordance
with
the
guidelines
of
the
government
government
finance
Association,
which
is
the
preeminent
municipal
budget
head
to
tea
in
the
connect
in
the
country.
As
you
know,
the
past
year
has
been
one
of
true
transition
with
a
new
mayor
and
manager,
and
several
new
department
managers.
D
Every
member
of
this
city
council
has
made
it
abundantly
clear
to
me
that
you
expect
management,
reform
and
continuous
improvement
in
better
budget
preparation
and
presentation.
You
have
also
introduced
the
new
commitment
to
fund
our
significant
infrastructure
assets
and
complete
major
capital
projects
on
time
that
have
been
lined
neglected.
D
Their
guidance
and
import
were
both
appreciated
in
value.
Thanks
to
our
dedicated
staff.
There
are
numerous
major
accomplishments
that
we
have
all
witnessed
over
the
past
year,
including
being
recognized
by
the
government,
finance
Officers
Association
once
again
and
receiving
the
award
for
excellence
and
financial
reporting.
We
you
to
implement
our
water
meter
change
out
program.
D
We
have
fairly
radically
changed
financial
operations
and
the
use
of
credit
cards
with
the
elimination
of
over
100
cards.
As
you
know,
through
the
leadership
of
mr.
griten,
we
have
implemented
a
purchased
and
implemented
a
software
program
that
is
assisting
us
in
evaluating
our
infrastructure.
In
the
city
we
received
a
FEMA
grant
for
the
historic
railroad
soil
stabilization
project.
We
successfully
negotiated
a
cell
tower
lease
bringing
in
over
twenty-four
thousand
dollars
a
year.
The
downtown
alley
renovations
are
being
completed
as
we
speak,
the
right
patch
stables
project
phase,
one
was
completed.
D
We
acquired
the
site
for
the
hour
north
side
recreation
park
and
have
begun
the
planning
and
design
process
for
that
project.
In
accordance
with
the
vote
of
our
citizens,
we've
acquired
a
five
acre
site
adjacent
ins
to
use
this
park
for
our
community
center.
We
have
been
awarded
a
bid
to
extend
the
citizens
park,
walking
trail
all
projects
that
come
from
our
capital
project
sales
tax,
all
of
which
were
approved
by
our
citizens
and
our
taxpayers.
D
We've
entered
into
discussions,
as
you
know,
with
the
new
owners
of
the
Aiken
mall,
and
hope
that
that
project
will
bear
fruit.
Over
the
coming
year,
we
competed
in
were
awarded
membership
into
the
main
streets
program
to
further
improve
our
wonderful
downtown
area.
We
have
retained
a
planning
entity
to
assist
our
Planning
Commission
and
they're
legislatively
required
rewriting
of
our
comprehensive
plan.
D
This
council,
through
your
leadership,
created
a
citizen's
review
board
to
review
complaints
that
are
filed
with
our
Department
of
Public
Safety
operational
audits
are
underway,
evaluating
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
and
public
services.
We
were
awarded
a
two-million-dollar
from
the
Federal
Aviation
Administration
to
expand
the
terminal
apron
at
our
Airport.
We've
installed
sanitary
and
storm
water
lines
on
BD
lane
and
Oak
Grove
Road,
allowing
for
commercial
development
we've
upgraded
storm
sewer
infrastructure
on
Olga
hit
Lane
Fabian
drive
in
millbrook,
allowing
for
several
new
businesses
to
develop.
D
On
that
section,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
fairly
radically
changed
the
format
of
our
budget
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
to
our
citizens.
Not
only
is
the
budget
and
has
the
budget
is
and
has
been
on
the
website
for
citizen
review.
For
months
we
will
be
putting
on
a
section
that
allows
for
our
citizens
to
offer
a
commentary
about
what
is
lacking
or
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
next
year's
budget.
Teve
improve
approve
the
document
even
further.
D
Some
initiatives,
through
the
leadership
of
individual
members
of
this
council,
include
in
next
year's
budget
a
comprehensive
review
of
our
pension
plan.
Obviously
we
all
know
that
that
pension
costs
are
significant
line,
item
costs
in
our
budget
and
we
believe
we
need
to
comprehensively
review
our
city's
pension
system
to
not
only
take
a
fresh
look
at
at
it,
but
also
to
compare
it
to
other
cities
and
towns
across
the
country
and
entities
in
the
private
sector
as
well.
D
We
will
continue
our
ongoing
program
to
conduct
operational
audits
under
the
philosophy
that
not
none
of
our
departments
are
perfect.
All
are
able
to
continuously
improve
and
I'm
honored
to
say
that
that
is
the
philosophy
of
every
one
of
our
senior
managers
next
year,
we'll
be
looking
at
finance
in
our
human
resource
functions
as
well.
D
In
conducting
the
second
part
of
our
public
services
on
it
that
look
at
the
cost
for
us
to
transfer
transport
our
waste
in
whether
there
are
cost
savings
measures
that
might
be
employed
to
reduce
the
costs
to
our
residents
and
taxpayers.
I
mentioned
a
project,
that's
ongoing.
That
is
in
need
of
immediate
attention
and
that's
our
headquarters
at
public
safety.
We
know
that
we
need
to
make
a
decision
in
that
regard.
D
We've
all
committed
to
all
of
you
that
we
will
complete
capital
project
sales
tax
projects
that
have
been
languishing
too
long,
starting
with
the
eustace
park
community
center,
with
a
goal
of
getting
that
done
in
the
next
fiscal
year
and
I
want
to
thank
the
council
for
your
leadership.
But
in
those
issues
we
want
to
complete
the
evaluation
and
ask
the
council
to
make
an
ultimate
decision
on
the
issue
of
City
Hall.
D
With
a
consolidation
of
city
hall
functions,
we
want
to
reestablish
the
public
works
department
with
all
of
the
the
projected
work
in
all
of
our
major
areas.
We
think
a
consolidated,
Public
Works
will
increase
efficiency
and
effectiveness,
and
that
proposal
is
included
in
our
budget.
I
mentioned
our
discussions
with
the
Aiken
mall
and
also
implementation
of
the
recommendations
of
a
main
street
programs.
M
D
Would
just
like
to
end
by
thanking
every
member
of
this
council.
I
know
how
many
hours
and
days
and
months
that
you've
spent
reviewing
this
document
I
suspect
that
maybe
our
citizens
aren't
aware
of
how
much
time
you
put
into
things
like
that.
But
I
just
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
employees
and
sincerely,
thank
all
of
you
every
one
of
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
to
push
us
to
make
this
document
the
best
budget
that
it
can
be
so
mr.
D
A
You
mr.
Klem
and
I'll
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
you
mr.
Beaton
ball.
This
ad
me,
of
course,
all
of
our
department
heads
who
are
represented
here
also
the
Planning
Commission
in
this
council
I'll
tell
you.
There
were
many
meetings
and
probably
even
more
questions
as
we
shape
this
document,
but
this
is
a
budget
that
was
shaped
by
everyone
by
the
input
of
this
council
and
others.
Our
citizens
I
hope
that
everyone
takes
a
pride
in
this
final
product.
It
was
a
good
process
for
Council
and
it's
a
budget
dump
I'm
proud.
A
C
Would
just
want
to
say
what
it
says
what
a
delight
it
is
to
come
out
of
the
dark
ages
and
look
at
a
new
budget
and
a
new
format.
As
many
of
you
know,
I
would
frequently
come
with
a
budget
with
the
list
of
questions
that
would
bore
most
of
you.
I
finally
stopped
doing
that
and
then
dealt
directly
with
the
city
manager,
but
I
am
really
really
pleased
with
a
with
a
format,
we're
not
complete
and
will
probably
finish
it
up
next
year.
C
G
B
C
Narrative
much
more
narrative
than
the
last
budget
last
budget
was
full
of
numbers
and
accounts
and
so
forth.
Some
narrative,
but
not
very
much,
not
nearly
as
as
much
as
we
have
with
this
budget,
so
I
thank
staff
for
their
hard
work.
If
I
thought
I
would
get
support,
I
would
make
a
motion
to
remove
the
unfunded
mandate
of
thirteen
thousand
dollars
that
the
state
is
asking
us
to
pay.
C
But
in
a
couple
of
comments
I've
made
in
work
sessions,
I
didn't
get
a
sense
that
there
would
be
a
lot
of
support
to
to
remove
that,
but
it
frustrates
frustrates
me
no
end
for
a
higher
level
of
government
to
say
we
want
you
to
do
this
and
not
pay
for
it,
but
I
won't
beat
up
the
state
and
then
plenty
of
people
beating
them
up
well
deserved.
In
my
opinion,
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
Thank.
K
The
south
side
is
doing
very,
very
well
in
terms
of
growth
and
if
anyone
know
of
any
ideas
that
we
can
put
into
place,
you
have
our
business
vitality.
A
person
in
the
audience
visit
his
office
share
as
input
share
your
input,
but
we
need
some
ideas,
some
innovative
ideas
in
terms
of
how
we
can
get
the
excitement
going.
I
know
we
have
to
project,
but
that's
not
enough.
It's
small
businesses,
diversity
and
those
businesses
that
we're
looking
for
and
that
we
need
ideas
for
the
folks.
Are
you
Thank
you
Thank.
A
Restate
the
motion:
this
is
an
ordinance
adopting
a
budget
proposed
by
the
city
manager
containing
estimates,
a
proposed
revenues
and
expenditures
by
the
city
of
vacant
for
the
fiscal
year,
beginning
july,
one
2016
and
ending
june
30
2017,
and
declaring
that
it
shall
constitute
the
budget
of
the
city
of
aiken.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all,
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
hand
and
that's
unanimous.
Thank
you.
B
I
had
several
and
I
think
it
was
passed
him
passed
on
to
you
sure
and
I've
had
experience
in
my
background
of
dealing
with
the
pumping
chemical
tree
and
once
whatever
state
you're
in
gets
their
claws
in
you,
they
don't
go
away
and
I
read
your
your
narrative
on
that
about
the
brownfield
and
I
assume
it
will
come
to
council
whenever
we.
If
we
decide
together,
it
has
some
extenuating
circumstances.
My
biggest
concern
was:
if
we
do
go
down
that
path,
it
does
two
things
one.
B
It
helps
you
in
one
way
because
it
makes
the
liability
with
in
the
property
and
any
chemicals
that
go
downstream
and
there's
health
issues
the
original
owner.
In
this
case,
the
school
system
will
probably
be
around
a
lot.
Sorry,
but
the
other
caveat
of
that
is
the
new
owner
has
to
take
care
of
whatever
goes
off
site
all
right,
and
my
concern
is
if
we
do
have
to
do
something
of
the
nature
here.
B
Can
we
build
on
that
property
by
that
a
structure
and
I'm
not
amount
of
parking
lot
or
something
I'm
talking
about
the
building
we're
proposing
most
times
that
gets
restricted,
and
I
can
point
to
the
charlotte
in
richmond
virginia
numerous
other
places
where
brownfields
come
on
and
make
good
golf
courses
or
that,
but
they
won't
let
you
build
anything
other
than
a
little
gazebo
or
something
that's
very
removable,
and
here
we're
talking
a
major
building.
Well,.
R
So
in
that
aspect,
you're
really
just
confined
to
what
you
do
when
we
first
had
the
initial
conversations
with
DHEC
about
approaching
the
state
brownfields,
so
we're
not
sort
of
in
the
federal
brownfields
realm.
They
were
actually
excited
about
this
project.
This
is
the
type
of
redevelopment
that
they
like
to
see.
The
sort
of
you
know
return
to
a
green
fields,
use
as
it
were,
so
we
told
them
what
you
want
to
do,
and
they've
actually
seen
your
plans
and
they've
seen
the
results
as
part
of
the
application
process.
R
B
I
understand
the
asbestos
and
lead
paint
and
council
talk
about
that
when
we
both
are
property.
Certainly
I
still
go
back.
If
we
go
through
this
and
I'm
all
for
cleaning
it
up-
and
we
did
this
in
this
city
or
the
chamber
of
commerce
was
there's
an
old
filling
station
and
we've
done
a
couple.
Others
around
town
and
those
are
hydrocarbons
which
are
much
easier
to
take
care
of.
G
R
Them
under
roof
parking,
lots
or
buildings,
or
things
like
that,
because
the
DX
concern
is
physical
contact
with
those
soils,
so
the
best
place
to
put
them
is
under
buildings.
So,
in
our
initial
conversations
with
DHEC
you,
they
realized
that
we
had
some
issues
in
soils.
We
can
take
those
and
move
them
under
the
building,
and
then
you
know
we
we
tell
DHEC
is
part
of
an
ongoing
site
management
plan
which
will
follow
the
property.
R
Okay,
we
know,
there's
impacted
soil
underneath
this
building
as
long
as
the
buildings
there,
we
don't
have
to
do
anything
about
it
or
as
long
as
the
parking
lot
is
there,
it
restricts
physical
access
to
the
property
so
that
be
that
then
becomes
the
cleanup
so
to
speak
of
the
actual
voluntary
cleanup
program.
It's
an
engineering
control.
B
But
I
would
suggest
to
Jolie
into
the
city
manager.
You
know
your
statements
you're
making
here
about
the
the
use
of
buildings
on
now
I
think
it's
very
important
for
future
council
needs
and
mr.
Mary
had
some
of
the
similar
question
because
he's
had
experienced
even
with
it
too,
and
obviously
we
want
to
go
down
the
right
path
and
I
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
so.
That
answers
my
question
and
then
because
we're
due
to
close
july
first
I
think
Leonard's
were
soon
engagement
and
I
guess.
B
O
I'm
alone
same
yeah,
I
mean
I'd
shared
that
same
questions,
though
I
was
particularly
concerned
about
just
the
unknown,
but
I
do
think
that
the
document
most
recently
sent
to
us
middle
or
last
week.
I
guess
a
lot
about
the
voluntary
cleanup,
explain
the
voluntary
cleanup
program
and
particularly
the.
O
O
Abner
had
said
to
heart-
that
if
we
do
find
something
with
the
further
testing
that
we
do,
worst-case
scenario-
that
we
could
leave
that
ground
undisturbed
or
put
it
under
a
parking
lot
or
something
I,
don't
think
I'd
ever
want
to
put
a
building
over
it
because
15
25
years
from
now
that
requirements
are
going
to
change
for
what
to
do
with
chemicals
on
the
ground.
I
don't
want
to
tear
a
building
down
to
fix
it,
but
a
parking
lot
or
something
like
that
might
might
be
reasonable
to
put
over
it.
O
R
It
can
sometimes
be
an
obstacle
to
work
with,
but
this
particular
group
I
work
with
them
a
lot
for
private
developers,
and
this
is
a
very
popular
program
for
private
developers
because
of
the
tax
incentives
that
are
involved
with
that
the
city
can't
take
advantage
of
those,
but
this
particular
program
moves.
They
move
at
the
pace
of
business
or
as
close
to
the
pace
of
business
as
the
state
can
and,
and
they
want
to
work
and
and
see,
projects
be
successful.
They
are
not
there
to
be
an
obstacle
they
want
to.
R
K
R
Oh,
so
we
did
our
phase
one
and
asbestos
survey.
That
was
the
initial
thing
we
did
for
the
due
diligence
and
we
followed
up
with
our
initial
testing,
which
was
some
soil
and
groundwater
and
groundwater
ground-penetrating
radar.
And
then
the
additional
testing
is
what
DHEC
requires
for
participation
and
I
program.
That.
R
O
O
If
you
suddenly
find
yourself
obligated
to
do
a
phase
till
you
do
that
and
if
you
are
asked
by
D
had
to
go
further,
I
commented
that
it
meant
that
there
was
something
to
be
afraid
of
there's
something
in
ground
or
whatever.
What
that
I
learned
from
that
document
that
y'all
sent
was
that
this
in
order
to
participate
in
the
voluntary
cleanup
program
that
this
level
of
testing
beyond
the
regular
phase
two
protocol
was
a
voluntary
thing.
O
It
wasn't
prescribed
by
DHEC
as
a
result
of
any
particular
findings
or
any
particular
existence
of
anything
in
the
ground.
But
having
known
what
the
site
had
been
used
for
and
participated
as
voluntary
cleaning
program,
it
was
a
voluntary
step
beyond
phase
two,
not
a
mandated
step
beyond
phase
two.
The.
R
One
of
the
issues
that
DHEC
was
having
years
ago
before
the
brownfields
laws
really
came
into
effect
was
when
you
did
that
phase
two
and
it
didn't
fit
into
any.
You
know
box
at
DIA,
candy
regulatory
program.
They
weren't
sure
what
to
do
with
it,
so
it
just
kind
of
hung
out
there
and
if
you
did
some
kind
of
cleanup,
you
may
do
it
to
your
own
satisfaction,
but
nobody
was
ever
buying
off
on
it.
R
It,
for
example,
groundwater.
We
know,
we've
studied
groundwater,
there's
very
minimal
impact
in
the
areas
that
we've
studied.
We
probably
don't
have
to
do
anything
to
groundwater
because
it's
40
feet
out
there.
So
as
long
as
we
don't
put
it
in
a
well
and
put
in
some
kind
of
sprinkler
that
we
all
go
and
drink
from
you
know,
there's
there's
not
really
anything
to
do.
The
risk
is
already
there
are
already
minimized.
Excuse
me.
B
Guess
I
would,
as
a
mentioned
before,
up
to
the
city
matter,
if
you
have
missed
Gillespie,
I.
Think
summarize
a
report,
even
though
it's
on
the
public
record,
I
like
it
summarized
about
the
use
of
buildings
in
the
program.
I
was
much
of
a
stir.
I'm
mary
said
a
very
good
explanation
of
what
we
can
do
and
of
course
that
is.
The
liability
was
a
big
issue
to
with
that
seem
like
that's
mitigated
so
very
good.
Thank.
J
B
J
J
R
R
City
does
this
is
a
new
for
lack
of
a
better
term
time,
zero
and
the
environmental
liability
for
this
project.
So
everything
up
to
the
point
when
you
filled
out
the
voluntary
cleanup
contract
application
that
that
liability
is
for
the
current
owner
and
everybody
who
owned
it
prior
to
them,
so
your
your
liability,
you're
protected
from
all
those
past
uses.
R
Now,
if
you
know,
if
the
city
in
50
years
goes
out
there
and
puts
in
a
gas
station
or
it
becomes
another
maintenance
shop
than
you
would,
you
would
be
liable
for
anything
that
you
did
to
the
property.
But
anything
from
this
point
backwards
is
what
you
get
the
liability
protection
from
and
that
those
went
into
effect
when
you
fill
out
the
application-
and
they
said
yes,
you
are
a
non
responsible
party.
Okay,.