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Special City Council Meeting
January 17, 2023
5 PM
CALL TO ORDER
NEW BUSINESS: Consideration of:
1) First Reading and Public Hearing of an Ordinance to Amend Section 11-
2 of the City Code Regarding the Governance of the Municipal
Development Commission.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 11-2 OF THE AIKEN
CITY CODE REGARDING THE GOVERNANCE OF THE CITY OF
AIKEN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
ADJOURNMENT
A
Good
afternoon,
everyone
thank
you
for
being
here
today,
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
at
this
time
the
January
17
2023
special
meeting
of
the
Aitkin
City
Council
before
Council.
Today
is
one
item
we
will
read.
The
item
have
discussion
on
it
and
put
on
the
item
and
then
adjourn
is
all
on
the
agenda
for
today.
A
So
we
start
with
new
business
I'm
number
one.
This
is
the
first
reading
in
a
public
hearing
of
an
ordinance
to
amend
section
11-2
of
the
city
code
regarding
the
governance
of
the
municipal
development
commission.
My
title:
this
is
an
ordinance
amending
section,
11-2
of
the
Aitkin
city
code
regarding
the
governance
of
the
city
of
Aiken,
Municipal
development,
Commission
I'd,
look
for
a
motion
at
this
time.
B
C
A
D
You
Council
has
asked
staff
to
review
the
enabling
ordinance
after
recent
commissioner
resignations
left
the
municipal
development
commission
without
a
quorum
after
consultation
with
the
city
attorney
that
was
determined.
That
Council
has
the
discretion
and
authority
to
buy,
to
abolish
the
office
of
Commissioners
for
the
amdc
and
assume
governance.
D
This
amended
ordinance
will
reconstitute
the
amdc
membership
to
consist
of
the
seven
members
of
city
council.
As
voting
ex-officio
members,
the
city
manager
would
no
longer
serve
as
a
non-voting
ex-officio
member.
This
would
also,
and-
and
the
mayor
had
asked
me
to
put
elaborate
on
this-
it
would
also
allow
the
reconstituted
amdc
Board
of
city
council
members
to
as
it
relates
to
assets
owned
by
the
amvc,
which
the
property
owned
is
a
parcel
at
Williamsburg
and
Richland
and
properties
along
Richland
Avenue
between
Lawrence
and
Newberry
and
along
the
100
blocks.
D
Southwest
of
Newberry.
A
portion
of
that
could
continue
to
be
guided
and
managed
under
the
municipal
development
commission
for
transferred
to
the
city
for
ultimate
sale
or
transfer
to
a
third
party
entity.
D
A
You
Mr
beanbo,
we'll
open
up
the
comment
section
at
this
time,
just
as
a
reminder
on
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
agenda
for
questions
and
statements
from
the
public.
All
comments
shall
be
directed
to
the
chair.
If
you
wish
to
speak,
raise
your
hand
and
I'll
certainly
recognize
you
approach
the
podium
and
state
your
name
and
address,
and
each
speaker
should
limit
their
comments
to
the
subject
being
discussed.
Each
speaker
will
be
given
five
minutes
to
address
the
issue.
A
E
Good
afternoon
Linda
Johnson
515
Parkside
Drive
first
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
calling
this
meeting
I
know
everybody's
been
eager
to
find
out,
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
amdc
I
think
doing
what
you're
doing
abolishing
the
Commissioners
taking
it
over
yourselves
is
the
right
thing
to
do:
you're,
responding
to
the
public
and
their
concerns
over
the
past
year.
E
But
I
want
to
remind
you
of
something
as
the
president
of
the
historic
Aiken
Foundation
you've
heard
me
time
and
again
say
that
we
care
a
lot
about
downtown
about
the
preservation
of
our
historic
buildings
and
our
historic
character
now
taking
on
these
properties,
it's
your
job
to
continue
looking
for
opportunities
to
preserve
that
charm,
to
preserve
our
historic
nature,
so
that
we
can
have
a
vibrant
downtown
that
reflects
our
unique
properties
and
and
the
unique
character
of
Aiken.
A
F
Good
afternoon
Louis
ronaldini
4,
30,
6,
38
Magnolia
I
want
to
Echo
what
Linda
said
and
say.
Thank
you,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
things.
F
Part
of
the
reason
we're
doing
this
is
because
we
thank
the
amdc
acquired
these
properties
illegally
and
a
lot
of
other
things
were
done
not
following
the
law
around
that
by
the
way,
including
the
Williamsburg,
property
and
I,
think
it's
great
that
we're
correcting
some
of
those
things
and
that
we're
taking
action
to
respond
to
the
community
in
that,
but,
for
example,
Stuart.
Unfortunately,
when
you
read
it,
you
said
you
know
the
AMD
Zeke
the
council,
taking
over
the
ambc
means
that
the
properties
can
be
managed
in
the
amdc
OR
by
the
council
itself.
F
If
they're
transferred
to
the
city
I
think
it
it.
It
is
important
that
you
tell
the
community
what
you
intend
to
do
so,
if
you
know
I
think
you
should
tell
us
today
whether
you
intend
to
abolish
the
amdc
and
transfer
the
properties
or
whether
you
intend
to
leave
them
in
the
NBC.
That's
going
to
make
some
people
nervous
I
personally,
don't
think
that's
necessarily
A
bad
issue,
because
it
may
have
some
convenience
to
leave
them
in
amdc.
F
But
then
you
should
give
some
assurance
that
it's
going
to
be
a
properly
run,
amdc
I'll,
probably
run
amdc,
would
have
had
no
issues
with
us.
It
actually
is
quite
well.
The
law
is
quite
well
written
to
protect
the
amdc
from
being
misused,
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
that
allowed
us
to
bring
a
lawsuit
is
because
those
Provisions
were
violated
in
our
view,
so
I
think
it's
also
important
for
the
commission
for
the
council,
as
I
said
before,
to
take
personal
responsibility
for
this
and
I
think
it's
beholden
on
you.
F
I
would
like
to
see
each
of
you
tell
us
today
what
your
view
of
the
situation
is,
what
your
opinion
of
what
we're
doing
is
so
that
we
know
that
we
don't
necessarily
think
that
you
have
to
have
a
consensus
view
or
a
common
view,
but
I
think.
Given
everything
that's
happened,
the
community
is
entitled
to
know
how
you
feel
and
what
you
see.
What
you
think
should
be
done
could
be
done
going
forward.
That
would
be
very
useful.
I
hope
you
can
do
it
today.
You've
had
time
to
think
about
it.
F
F
G
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Don.
Montiak
I
live
north
of
Aiken
in
Aiken
County.
When
was
the
decision
made
to
buy
these
properties?
Is
anybody
willing
to
reveal
that
because
Keith's
wood,
the
former
chairman
of
the
amdc,
said
in
a
letter
to
the
historic
Aiken
Foundation
that
this
property
is
bought
at
the
behest
of
counsel?
G
Now,
if
he
misspoke
or
miswrote,
then
say
so?
But
this
this
property
was
approved
for
purchase
by
city
council.
He
approved
them,
10
million
dollars
to
buy
all
these
properties,
and
when
that
was
approved
that
10
million
dollars,
nobody
said
what
you're
actually
going
to
buy.
Just
the
language
was
property
within
the
parkway
District,
which
is
a
pretty
wide
area.
G
So
that'd
be
one
question
that
everybody
should
know
because
it
was
christopherines
who
also
said
on
September
29th.
The
public
deserves
to
know
the
truth,
and
so
when
is
this
Council
going
to
address
the
issues
raised
by
former
amdc
Commissioners
Keith
wood
and
christopherines,
who
resigned
in
protest
on
December
9th,
stating
that
this
Council
was
unwilling
to
meet
with
them
as
a
whole
to
discuss
issues
of
concern
as
to
how
this
all
fell?
Apart
is
that
going
to
happen.
G
G
G
G
G
Third
issue
goes
back
to
one
of
the
reasons
this
whole
project
fell
apart
and
that's
an
issue
of
ethics
I'm
asking.
Why
are
there
no
recusals
today,
because
mayor
Osborne
in
December
12th
at
the
executive
session?
You
accused
yourself
from
that,
because
property
that
was
involved
involves
your
competitor.
But
it's
not
just
that
if,
if
you're
going
to
be
on
the
amdc
you're,
essentially
going
to
be
one
of
their
landlords,
the
amdc
is
not
just
a
property
owner.
It
is
a
landlord
it
collects.
G
G
H
H
You've
put
taxpayers
into
a
bad
spot
and
I
hope
that
that
indeed
this
is
a
correction,
but
to
me,
I
have
big
concerns
that
this
is
jumping
from
the
frying
pan
Into
the
Fire,
because
there
has
been
no
accountability
and
I
think
project
pascalis,
which
is
now
evidently
a
redactable
term
in
the
foia
office,
has
caused
you.
It's
caused
this
community.
It's
you
know
it's.
It's
been
a
disaster.
So
to
put
yourselves
on
the
committee
that
presented
it
has
it's
a
lot
of
concerns.
I
mean
I.
H
I,
read
you're
filing
your
defense,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
into
that
bigger
lawsuit
and
I
didn't
hear
any
accountability.
I
heard
that
you
had
a
waiver
I
read
that
you
had
immunity.
I
read
that
you
were
the
alter
ego
of
the
city.
I
mean
what
does
that
mean
that
your
evil
twin
Skippy
caused
this?
And
finally,
you
wanted
a
protective
order,
so
there's
been
no
accountability
as
to
how
we
got
here
tonight
with
these
properties
that
you
can't
transfer.
H
The
minutes
and
a
lot
of
you
raised
concerns
about
council
members
being
commission
members,
Miss
broil.
You
said
that
you
do
attend
Planning
Commission
meetings,
but
there
are
not
ex-officio
members,
and
this
is
out
of
the
minutes.
She
said
those
minutes.
She
never
gives
her
opinion.
She
said,
especially
for
the
amdc.
She
felt
counsel
should
not
be
on
the
board.
She
felt
it
gives
the
appearance
of
an
impropriety
later.
H
She
said
she
was
a
former
ethics
commissioner,
now
I
remember
on
May
9th,
when
many
of
us
stood
up
here,
myself
included,
but
Mr
Johnson
and
I
read
the
South
Carolina
laws
on
ethics
into
the
record,
and
not
one
of
you
thought
anything
of
that.
You
went
ahead
and
voted
to
give
away.
Newbury,
Street
and
I
think
that
was
the
beginning
of
all
of
this.
When
people
saw
that
you
were
giving
a
city
street
away,
at
least
for
me,
but
later
in
those
minutes,
Council
councilman
Waltz
stated
he
agreed
with
councilwoman
Royal.
H
So
you
two
had
issues
about
putting
yourselves
on
this
commission
and
then
further
in
those
minutes.
Councilman
Gregory
had
concerns.
She
said
she
never
agreed
with
the
council
being
on
the
municipal
commission.
So
it
seems
like
not
just
conflicts
of
interest.
Are
here,
there's
conflicted
opinions,
so
it
this
is
a
challenge
and
so
I.
Unless
you
can
assure
us
that
this
commission
is
getting
abolished
and
you're,
not
just
changing
the
members
to
yourselves,
which
is
the
way.
H
This
reads:
it's
disturbing
to
me,
because
I
think
it
would
require
public
trust
for
us
and
I
think
that
in
in
my
case
that
is
gone.
So
I
have
been
up
here
more
than
once
asking
you
to
abolish
this
commission,
but
never
did
I.
H
Think
that
would
mean
you
becoming
the
commission
so
before
you
move
forward
in
this
I
would
look
at
how
you
could
write
this
to
make
those
of
us
that
have
concerns
about
you,
all
being
the
commission
itself
feel
more
at
ease
and
if
you
truly
are
just
going
to
change
the
properties
over
then
see
if
that
can
be
written
into
the
ordinance.
But,
as
is
I,
have
many
many
concerns.
A
I
I
I
I've
been
fortunate
to
work
for
four
public
companies
as
an
executive
and
having
responsibility
for
creative
plans,
creating
projects,
managing
projects,
overseeing
projects
and
usually
projects
start
with
a
vision,
and
then
you
create
a
plan
and
then
down
to
objectives
and
more
Tactical
tomorrow.
If
you
pass
this
ordinance
you're
going
to
read
in
the
paper,
probably
that
you
know
the
amdc
and
the
council
is
now
kind
of
the
amdc
or
whatever
and
people
are
going
to
read
it
and
say:
oh,
that's,
nice.
What
does
that
mean
so
I'm
asking
you
Mr
Mayor?
I
What
exactly
is
the
vision
when
you
get
responsibility
for
what
had
been
the
members
of
the
amdc
now
you're
become
the
members?
What
is
your
vision?
Don't
you
think
the
public
deserves
to
know
what
the
vision
is.
What
your
intentions
are?
Don't
you
have
a
plan?
So,
wouldn't
you
want
to
lay
out
a
plan
or
if
you
don't
have
a
plan,
yet
at
least
division?
What
is
your
intent,
sir
I'm.
A
A
I
think
I'll
say
this:
a
lot
of
it's
going
to
be
addressed
at
the
state
of
the
city
next
Monday,
which
everyone's
invited.
A
Yeah
right,
don't
you
it's
the
first
reading
it
is
but,
but
let
me
speak
to
your
question
on
what
my
vision
is
for
for
this,
that
we're
dealing
with
tonight.
The
amdc
heard
requests
you
should
abolish
it.
Maybe
that
might
be
it,
but
the
most
important
thing
is:
you
can't
abolish
amdc
as
long
as
they
have
assets.
Those
assets
need
to
be
turned
over
to
the
city.
We
are
the
elected
body
of
of
our
citizens,
and
so
my
first
order
of
tasks
would
be
with
am
regarding
amdc.
A
Is
the
council
puts
themselves
in
place
those
assets
come
over
to
the
city
at
that
point,
and
then
it
does
lead
the
decision.
What
do
you
do
with
amdc?
Do
you
leave
it
in
a
state
where
there's
no
Holdings
it's
just
there
or
is
it
a
tool
that
you'd
want
to
use
for
for
some
other
project?
I
don't
know,
but
our
I
can
tell
you
I
I,
think
the
intentions
are
at
this
point
to
certainly
step
in
move
those
assets
over
to
the
elected
body.
I
I
That's
what
I'm
hearing
that's
what
I'm
interpreting?
Okay!
Now,
when
we
do,
when
a
a
plan
is
done
in
most
corporations,
they
don't
make
it
up
as
they
go
along
right.
They
have
the
vision,
they
have
at
least
a
framework
of
a
plan.
So
all
we
know
all
the
public
is
going
to
know
is
oh
great.
This
has
been
all
these
properties
are
going
to
be
now
the
responsibility
of
the
council
or
the
MDC,
or
a
combination
of
both
or
right.
I
However,
the
legal
and
I'll
leave
that
up
to
Gary
Smith
I
guess
what
the
legal
structure
is
here,
but
I
think
the
public
deserves
to
know
where
you
are
heading.
That's.
I
A
J
Good
afternoon
I'm
Martin,
Buckley
I
live
and
vote
in
Aitkin.
First
I
would
like
to
thank
mayor
and
Council
for
relieving
Lucy
Knowles
of
her
duties
on
desire
review.
J
It
saves
her
of
being
in
the
awkward
position
of
being
both
a
defendant
and
a
plaintiff
in
the
action,
the
legal
action
which
has
been
so
you
have
my
thanks
for
that.
It
would
be
kind
of
awkward
for
a
lawyer
to
be
in
that
position
and
I
I'm,
not
too
happy
with
the
secrecy
executive
sessions,
the
secret
meetings
all
along.
J
We
have
been
left
pretty
much
in
the
dark
about
this
whole
thing,
and
there
might
be
a
lot
more
happiness
and
good
feeling
about
this
if
if
it
could
be
shared
and
if
it's
worth
sharing,
let's
share
it.
Let's
all
know
about
it.
J
It
seems
to
me
the
major
reason
for
most
of
this
is
the
derelict
Hotel
and
that
doesn't
require
a
parking
lot
or
a
parking
deck,
Texas,
donut,
Ferris
wheel
or
any
of
that
sort
of
stuff.
We
ought
to
get
to
work
on
that
hotel
and
get
the
job
done,
narrow
it
down
to
something
that
can
be
done.
J
J
I
think
that's
a
very
good
idea
and
I
think
the
city
maybe
should
consider
demolition
by
neglect
and
so
forth,
and
make
sure
that
it
is
not
an
ongoing
problem.
I'd
love
to
see
that
hotel
come
back
as
a
what
it
should
be
in
town,
a
marvelous
piece
of
our
downtown
fabric.
We
don't
need
anything
new
or
different.
We
need
that
fixed
up.
J
That
would
be
a
wonderful
start
for
heading
the
downtown.
The
right
direction.
J
I
think
that
a
40-room
hotel,
42
room
Hotel
there,
just
as
it
was,
would
be
a
wonderful
thing.
There's
enough
parking
there
there's
enough
land
to
take
care
of
the
parking
on
the
ground
level
and
not
have
the
problems
of
a
parking
garage
which
is
which
would
be
hard
to
clean
to
monitor
to
police.
J
So
far,
the
town
hasn't
any
experience
with
anything
like
that,
and
if
they
jump
right
into
it,
they
might
find
they
had
a
little
more
than
they
knew
exactly
how
to
handle.
I
think
the
project
should
be
something
that
can
be
gotten
done
and
gotten
done
quickly
and
efficiently,
and
adding
on
copping
on
is
not
going
to
help.
We
need
to
take
care
of
what
we
can
do
and
do
it
well.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
Anyone
else
yes
ma'am
and
then
Jacob
I'll
get
you
next.
Yes,
ma'am.
K
My
name
is
Valerie
Roble
I
live
in
South
Aiken
I'm
here
to
address
many
of
the
same
things
that
you've
heard
already,
but
I
do
want
to
ask
you
Mr
Smith,
do
any
of
your
law
Partners
still
own
property
on
the
pascalis
Block
I
think
that
we
all
deserve
to
know
that
answer.
K
Also
as
far
as
accountability,
you
know
the
the
rfps
for
this
project
were
put
out
after
you
guys
have
already
chosen.
Who
you
want
to
use
doesn't
seem
quite
right
or
Fair,
and
then
you
know,
additionally
entering
into
a
contract
with
your
law
partner,
his
Corporation
for
half
price
of
what
the
taxpayers
have
paid
for.
It
seems
really
Shady
it's
the
best
word
I
can
think
that
does.
Why
would
you
do
that?
Why
would
this?
Why
would
the
amdc,
or
why
would
this
council
do
that?
K
You
know
we
paid
almost
10
million
dollars
for
that
property
and
we're
going
to
make
an
agreement
to
sell
it
to
a
law
partner,
his
new
Corporation
brand,
new
Corporation
for
half
price.
That
doesn't
seem
quite
right.
You
know,
and
also
as
as
mentioned,
giving
away
a
city
street
until
the
citizens
were
so
upset
that
we're
basically
having
to
fight
for
it
to
get
it
back.
K
K
You
know,
I
I
am
a
believer
that
we
should
abolish
the
amdc
but
I'm
also
quite
concerned.
As
you
know,
the
citizens
here
tonight
about
what
happens
after
that.
You
know.
I
agree.
We
need
some
of
your
thoughts,
your
input,
what
your
plans
are
I
certainly
agree
with
this
gentleman
that
we
should
keep
that
a
beautiful
Historic,
Hotel
and
refurbish
it
as
a
beautiful
Historic
Hotel.
That
would
be
what
would
draw
people
to
this
town.
People
come
here
for
the
historic
beauty
of
it.
K
K
Let's
see
another
question:
if
you
abolish
the
amdc,
how
do
you
I
guess
that
Mr
beadenbaugh
addressed
this?
But
how
do
you
do
you
quick
claim
those
deeds
back
over
to
the
city
I?
Would
let's
just
clarify
how
that
happens?
Can
that
just
can
you
guys?
K
Can
they
can
you
guys
put
yourself
as
amdc
members
quick,
claim
those
properties
back
over
to
the
Town
Council
or
to
the
city
of
Aiken
and
then
abolish
the
amdc
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
know
how
that
happens,
and
you
know
again,
we
want
you
to
do
the
right
thing.
We
hoped
all
along
that
you
all
would
do
the
right
thing.
That
was
the
goal,
but
that
hasn't
proven
to
happen.
K
It's
been
one
sideway
Street
after
another
and
again
just
you
know,
throw
in
the
taxpayers
under
the
bus
for
half
the
cost
of
the
properties
to
sell
them
to
a
Affiliated
member
of
Town.
Council.
Here
is
a
you
know:
it's
just
a
huge
loss
of
public
trust.
We
want
to
trust
you
we
wanted
to.
We
tried
but
I
think
it's
gone
too
far
at
this
point,
so
anyway,
we
want
you
to
do
the
right
thing.
K
We
hope
you
do
the
right
thing,
so
I
hope
you
abolish
the
amdc
I
hope
you
find
a
way
to
put
this
project,
maybe
just
refurbish.
What's
already
there,
instead
of
trying
to
create
a
new
wheel,
we
we
have
a
good
wheel.
We
just
need
to
refurbish
it.
It
just
has
a
flat
tire.
We
just
need
to
refurbish
this
and
make
this
come
back
to
life.
Again,
we
don't
need
to
redesign
what
we
already
have.
We
just
need
to
refurbish
it
remodel
it,
bring
it
back
to
what
it
once
was.
K
A
L
Hi
everyone,
I'm
Jacob,
Ellis
I,
live
on
the
south
side
of
Aiken
and
I'm
wondering
a
couple
of
things.
Please,
these
buildings
that
are
about
to
be
turned
back
over
to
City
Council
of
this
first
reading,
then
the
second
reading
goes
through
or
recognized
by
the
state
as
historic
preservation
intended
property.
L
If
y'all
get
control
of
them,
will
you
be
preserving
them
or
demolishing
them
initially,
because
we
have
a
list
of
developers,
historic
preservation-minded
developers
who
are
interested
in
Saving
and
preserving
these
properties
and
I'm
going
to
assume
that
if
we
can't
come
to
an
answer
by
if
we're
going
to
save
them
or
not
by
tonight's
meeting
or
the
second
reading,
that
they
are
going
to
again,
unfortunately
try
and
be
demolished.
So
that
is
my
statement
and
questions
for
y'all
tonight.
If
anyone
could
give
me
a
fraction
of
an
ant
here
would
be
wonderful.
A
I
mean
I'll,
I'll
say
this:
we
we
also
have
been
contacted
by
by
developers
who
are
certainly
his
historic,
historically
minded,
as
far
as
as
far
as
saving
buildings
certainly
favor
that
in
in
instances
when
we
can,
the
Johnson
Building
is
certainly
important
to
our
history.
I
think
that's
something
that
came
up
through
this
process
that
maybe
everybody
didn't
realize,
or
maybe
maybe
it's
just
me
who
didn't
realize
I
always
saw
actually
I
always
saw
the
pharmacy
somewhere
else.
A
I
didn't
realize
it
was
that
building
I
found
that
out
through
this
process,
but
I
think
there's
an
intention
on
Council,
certainly
leaning
and
favoring
I
mean
I.
I
can
tell
you.
I
can
only
speak
for
myself.
I've
certainly
moved
through
this
process
to
recognize
the
historical
factor
and
importance
of
some
of
those
buildings.
So
I
I
can't
tell
you
on
everything,
because
we're
just
not
there
yet
but
I
think
as
owners
of
those
buildings.
We
can
do
things
incentive-wise
and
planning-wise
that
that
makes
sense
for
historical
preservation,
because.
L
B
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
Gail
King,
330
Kershaw
in
Aitkin
I,
must
confess
you
all
look
a
little
bit
like
deer
caught
in
the
headlights.
Not
surprisingly,
perhaps
I
know
that
you
know
that
a
lot
of
us
are
very
concerned,
as
evidenced
by
everybody
here
tonight.
This
has
whole
project
has
been
deeply
concerning
and
has
not
made
any
of
you
look
particularly
fine.
B
You
have
an
opportunity
here
to
turn
this
around,
for
all
of
you
and
for
all
of
us
and
I
urge
you
I,
don't
know
why
this
core
question
and
answer,
because
nobody
seems
to
really
be
answering
the
questions.
But
my
question
not
my
question.
My
sort
of
hope
is
that
you
have
a
huge
opportunity
here
to
put
this
mess
to
bed
and
to
make
it
right
and
I
urge
you
so
to
do.
Thank
you.
M
All
right,
Jenny,
stoker,
331,
Kershaw,
Street
and
I
just
like
to
follow
up
on
a
little
bit
on
what
my
friend
just
said,
and
that
is
to
say
it's
disappointing
20
years
ago,
when
I
used
to
come
to
council
all
the
time
there
was
discussion.
People
would
ask
these
questions
and
council
members
would
answer
now.
If
we're
lucky
at
the
end
of
the
whole
thing,
you
might
give
a
little.
You
know
a
little
crumb
of
what
you
were
thinking
about
it,
but
there's
no
discourses.
M
You
know
this
fence
has
made
a
big
difference
in
the
attitude
and
the
way
that
things
are
happened
down
here
and
it's
it's
unfortunate
because
I
think
we
all
learn
a
lot
from
each
other.
When
there's
you
know
when
there's
conversation
we
you
know
so
many
good
questions
were
asked
and
I
hope
that
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
you
will
be
able
to
answer
some
of
them.
It's
frustrating
for
all
of
us
and
I.
Think
that's
how
we
got
here
today.
M
I
think
one
of
the
other
big
problems
or
big
changes
in
the
last
20
years
is
the
boards
and
commissions
that
you
appoint
used
to
be
very
productive
and
they
had
a
lot
of
people
on
them.
With
a
lot
of
varied
opinions,
there
were
Devil's
Advocates
on
every
boarding
commission.
Who
would
ask
the
hard
questions
and
make
sure
that
everybody
on
that
commission
knew
that
there
were
a
lot
of
different
things.
They
should
be
looking
at
now.
M
Somehow
the
borders
and
commissions
have
gotten
cleaned
up
handily
before
this
project
pascalis,
so
that
you
were
fed
only
one
Viewpoint
from
the
bottom
to
the
top
from
design
reviewed,
Planning,
Commission,
everybody.
It
was
all
reading
from
the
same
piece
of
paper
and
all
the
things
that
these
people
have
had
to
come.
Every
meeting
and
pound
and
pound
and
pound
just
doesn't
sound
right.
M
What's
going
on,
your
boards
and
commissions
should
have
been
asking
you
that
and
and
asking
for
the
questions
it
shouldn't
have
to
be
citizens
who
don't
get
answers
and
I
can't
I
mean
I
have
a
hard
time,
believing
that
none
of
you
had
any
inkling
that
this
was.
You
know
not
the
way
it
should
be,
but
if
that's
the
case,
you
really
do
need
boards
and
Commissioners
who
have
you,
know,
varied
viewpoints
and
not
just
the
the
company.
M
You
know
the
company
say
so.
M
I
look
forward
to
hearing
and
I
wish.
We
were
going
to
hear
tonight
what
you're
planning
to
say,
Monday
night
I,
think
it's
unfortunate
you've
got
the
people
right
here
who
want
to
know
so
I
think
you
know,
I'll
watch
it
on
TV
on
Monday,
but
I
would
sure
would
love
to
know
tonight
because
you're,
it's
right
paper
is
not
going
to
give
not
going
to
give
people
what
they
want
to
know
they're
going
to
get
a
couple
of
sound
bites
and
it
may
or
may
not
be
accurate.
N
Lucy
Knowles
504
Berry,
Road
Aiken,
so
one
of
the
things
that
people
are
very
concerned
about
is
the
condition
of
the
hotel
Aiken
and
the
fact
that
perhaps
the
amdc
has
not
been
totally
diligent
in
making
sure
that
the
hotel
doesn't
suffer
from
Demolition
by
neglect.
N
A
O
Good
evening
David
Blake
Two,
Notch
Road
anyway,
I
wasn't
going
to
say
anything
tonight,
but
it's
interesting
to
me
that
I'm
trying
I'm
new
here
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
why
all
of
these
questions
that
have
been
posed
tonight
by
the
Dozen.
Now
none
of
them
have
been
answered
and
is
there
do
you
all
intend
to
answer
these
questions
tonight?
I,
don't
see
how
you
possibly
could,
unless
Mrs
Rideout
could
list
them
all
for
you
and
one
by
one
answer
them.
P
We
counsel
shares
in
that
blame,
and
one
of
you
at
one
of
these
meetings
said
people
make
mistakes,
and
you
need
to
admit
counsel
that
you've
made
some
mistakes
and
had
that
done
been
done
early
in
the
game.
We
would
not
be
where
we
are
at
this
point
and
at
this
time,
there's
nothing
worse
than
losing
the
trust
of
your
spouse,
your
children,
and
especially
especially
this
community.
P
We
do
not
want
to
do
that,
and
we
do
not
want
to
be
a
part
of
that.
We
want
to
build
trust
amongst
you,
as
one
council
member
I
am
apologizing
to
you
for
the
mistakes
that
we
have
made
now
the
amdc
has
been
trying
to
meet
with
us
since
July,
so
you
can't
fault
the
amdc
they've
been
trying
to
meet
with
us
since
July.
P
They
still
maintain
that
they
have
additional
information
to
share
with
us,
and
you
know
and
I
know
that,
if
you're
moving
forward,
if
you
don't
have
all
the
information,
you're
bound
to
repeat
the
past-
and
that
is
what
I
I
think
some
of
you
are
asking.
Are
you
repeating
the
past?
What
plans
do
you
have
to
move
forward?
P
I
am
trusting
that
wherever
we
go,
we
have
plans
to
meet
the
to
move
forward.
As
the
mayor
has
said,
you
hear
those
plans
at
the
state
of
the
city,
but
what
you're
asking
is?
Why
can't
we
see
those
plans
on
paper
and
you
titled
to
that
as
Citizens?
And
hopefully
we
will
not
repeat
the
past,
but
not
by
not
allowing
you
to
see
what
is
planned
and
that
you
have
input
with
some
of
those
plans.
P
I
wanted
to
I
want
to
go
home
tonight.
Feeling
peaceful
and
I
realized
that
if
I'd
walked
out
of
this
room
tonight,
not
saying
anything,
I
will
not
be
at
peace
for
some
time.
Knowing
what
I
know
about
the
amdc,
you
have
a
group
of
Holly
and
I
emphasize
that
word
highly
ethical
volunteers.
Serving
on
that
board
highly
ethical
people,
you
can't
buy
that
and
I
will
put
my
paycheck
on
that.
Q
On
1202
South
Boundary,
thank
you
Ms
price
now,
I
have
a
question.
We
have
Mr
Bryant,
Mr,
beaden,
Bao
and
Mary.
Catherine
all
have
degrees
Masters
in
public
administration
and
I.
Looked
at
this
LinkedIn
for
all
these
people.
Now,
how
did
we
get
here,
Mr
bedenbau
as
a
city
manager?
What
were
your
responsibilities
for
guiding
the
city
council
with
your
masters
that
you
say
you
tout
as
far
as
auditing
you
can't
audit
or
review
these
contracts?
That's
what
I'm
amazed
at
and
Mr
Smith
I've
liked
you
for
a
long
time,
but
I
had
no
idea.
Q
You
were
in
private
practice.
So
how
do
we
resolve
this?
Do
we
bring
in?
Do
we
pay
for
I,
know
Mr
Smith
that
you've
probably
done
with
us
by
now,
but
should
we
bring
in
a
paid
for
City
attorney,
I
mean
he's
been
a
good
counsel
for
years,
and
will
you
have
and
whatever
came
about?
Is
Mr
O'brien?
So
you
have
skills
in
this.
So
did
you
not
know
how
to
administer
an
am
I
mean
the
development
Commission.
Q
R
R
There
are
two
restaurants:
there
is
the
onion
alley
and
then,
next
to
it,
there's
the
wild,
scallion
and
they've
got
up
upstairs
dining,
upstairs
bar
the
whole
bit
and
they're
right
next
to
each
other,
and
they
have
bands
there
regularly
and
the
whole
town
shows
up
to
just
hang
out
and
and
be
friends
with
one
another
and
that
included
Paul
Newman
Martha
Stewart
as
well
as
all
the
locals.
It
was
just
a
great
place
to
be
now
when
I
first
came
to
Aitkin
close
to
25
years
ago.
R
R
So
I
understand
that
a
by
top
preservation
architect,
construction
company
did
a
complete
entire
Hotel
and
they
said
you
know
for
a
few
million
dollars.
We
can
renovate
all
the
piping,
the
wiring,
the
mold
remediation
whatever
and
then
maybe
for
a
few
million
dollars
more.
A
Thank
you
for
the
thoughtful
comments
tonight.
At
this
time,
I
opened
up
for
comments
from
Council.
L
S
O
S
Sir
I
want
to
say
I
make
sure
I
turn
this
on
I
I,
just
Echo,
Miss
Price's,
sentiments,
I,
couldn't
say
it
better,
myself,
I
agree
with
her
and
I
think
we're
taking
a
step
back
to
rear,
look
at
this
project
and
understand
where
we're
coming
from
so
this
is
this
action
tonight
is
a
step
back
to
reevaluate
and
then
move
forward
so
give
us
our
time
we'll
try
to
get
it
better.
This
time
and
thank
Mr
price
for
what
she
said.
T
Thank
you.
Are
we
allowed
to
respond
to
public
comment
sure?
Because
that
was
not
my
understanding.
Well,.
G
T
There's
two
there's
two
portions:
to
that:
there
is
your
public
comment
and
then
Council
comment
right
so
to
clarify
as
city
citizens
are
asking
questions
is
Council
able
to
address
those
questions
on
the
spot,
or
do
we
have
to
wait
for
our
turn
to
when
you
open
it
up
to
console?
That
is
what
I'm
trying
to
clarify.
A
Yeah
we
we've.
T
Both
right
by
the
way,
great
thank
you,
I'm
answering
a
question
because
obviously
I
get
a
lot
of
emails,
actually
asking
that
and
I
thought
it
was
two
separate
sessions.
I
do
want
to
address
about.
Somebody
made
a
comment
about
us
putting
ourselves
on
the
commission
for
months.
T
I
have
articulated.
There
is
a
statute
to
go
about
what's
happening
now,
and
this
statute
is
the
empowering
State
Statute
that
follows
that
ordinance.
Okay,
it's
basically
the
behind
the
scenes
statutes,
and
so
we
don't
really
have
a
choice
on
how
to
proceed
to
dissolve
the
amdc
and
I'm.
Going
to
tell
you
me
as
one
council
member
My
ultimate
goal
is
to
dissolve
the
amdc.
I
will
resonate
that
I
appreciate
each
member
of
the
amdc's
time,
volunteership
their
expertise
and
their
Public
Service
I
do
I
think
it
got
really
messy.
T
Whatever
happened,
I
will
stick
to
the
point
that
I
think
we
all
just
tripped
up
on
each
other.
I
do
believe.
Nothing
was
done.
Intentional
and
I
will
stand
by
that.
I
never
participated
in
any
amdc
meetings,
because
I
didn't
agree
that
Council
should
have
been
involved.
I
was
very
vocal
about
that.
T
T
So,
yes,
we
all
need
to
step
back,
revisit,
revamp
and
re-envision,
and
that
happens
in
many
aspects
in
business
in
school
in
life
it
was
a
cluster,
so
I
am
personally
recognizing
that
we
pull
it
back,
but
I
don't
ever
want
to
give
a
a
notion
that
we
didn't
support
the
gentlemen
that
were
part
of
amdc,
because
we
did
I
am
one
council,
member
and
I
have
been
requesting
to
meet
since
the
end
of
June
hasn't
happened.
When
it
finally
happened,
the
request
came
in
November,
it
was
too
late.
T
I've
been
asking
to
dissolve
amdc
for
about
two
months:
I,
don't
want
to
meet
with
anybody.
It
was
too
late.
So
the
statute
very
clearly
reads
upon
adoption
of
the
ordinance
establishing
a
commission.
The
governing
body
of
such
municipality
shall
provide
for
the
governance
of
such
commission
by
either
of
the
following
methods.
T
In
the
event,
the
governing
body
initially
elects
to
appoint
Commissioners,
which
is
what
we
did
to
operate.
The
commission,
it
may,
at
any
time,
in
its
sole
discretion,
abolished
the
office
of
the
Commissioners
and
assume
the
direct
responsibility
for
the
operation
of
the
commission,
because
we
have
properties
involved.
That
is
the
step.
T
This
change
in
ordinance
today
I
plan
on
supporting
the
second
reading
of
this
ordinance
and
immediately
after
the
reading
of
the
second
ordinance
if
it
passes
or
the
first
of
course,
but
immediately
if
it
passes
the
first
and
the
second
I
plan
to
request
staff
to
put
on
the
agenda
to
abolish
the
amdc,
we
need
to
start
fresh.
We
need
to
go
back
to
basics.
We
need
to
own
these
properties.
G
C
Okay,
I
I
appreciate
all
your
questions.
It's
a
little
bit
mind-boggling
and
sometimes
you
don't
know
like
Andrea
just
pointed
out.
We
don't
know
whether
the
Blurred
out
answers
or
whatever
we
try
to
get
on
the
same
page
great
completely
with
Lassie.
Is
the
bug
stops
with
us?
It's
not
the
amdc's
fault.
They
did
the
best
they
could
and
it
didn't
turn
out
all
that.
Well,
it
didn't
turn
out
as
well
as
any
of
us
thought,
but
that's
the
way
it
goes
now.
C
I
was
one
of
the
three
that
got
nominated
to
be
on
it
and
it
didn't
take
us
long
to
figure
out.
We
don't
need
to
be
on
this
commission.
You
couldn't
vote.
If
we're
going
to
vote
on
that,
and
then
it's
sent
to
council
out
in
the
world.
Can
we
vote
on
that?
Then
we're
just
recusing
ourselves.
So
let
me
just
say:
obviously
you
know
what
we're
planning
on
doing
with
getting
the
property
back
in
our
name.
This
is
a
process
that
has
to
happen.
It
has
to
be
done
this
way.
C
It
doesn't
happen
as
fast
as
I
want
it
or
anybody
up
here
wants
it.
We
want
it
to
be
done,
then
great
if
it
had
been
months
ago,
but
it's
a
process.
It
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
moving
parts.
So
after
we
get
that
done,
I
I
don't
want
to
sit
on
it.
I
don't
need
to
be
on
amdc
I.
Don't
think
anybody
up
here
wants
to
be
on
amdc,
it's
tough
enough
just
being
on
City
Council.
C
So
from
that
perspective
you
can
sort
of
read
into
it.
We
got
to
go
through
these
processes,
but
we're
not
interested
in
that
and
I
certainly
wasn't
interested
in
nominating
more
people
to
be
on
an
amdc
just
to
say:
okay,
now
we're
going
to
give
the
property
back.
That
is
what
had
to
happen,
and
it
only
made
sense
that
for
us
to
be
appointed
to
the
MDC
to
get
the
business
done,
there's
a
process
and
I
over
the
five
years.
I've
been
involved.
C
It's
been
a
learning
experience
and
things
don't
happen
as
fast
as
I
would
like
to
see
them
done.
It's
just
the
way
it
is
so
we
have
to
get
through.
All
of
that.
As
far
as
you
know,
what
are
we
going
to
do
here
or
there
anyway,
I've
been
here
for
60s?
C
Well,
I'm,
not
going
to
count
the
first
two
years
but
60
years
or
so
that
I've
lived
in
Aiken
I
want
to
see
the
hotel
burnt
turned
down.
I
have
a
professional
that
I'm
going
to
bring
in
for
sure
and
I'm
sure,
there's
other
ones
about
looking
to
preserve
it.
The
person
I
know
is
from
Aiken
and
he
does
this
kind
of
thing
and
it
would
be
beautiful
if
he
could
get
the
thing
worked
out
so
that
that's
on
the
gym.
C
I've
already
talked
to
him
about
when
the
day
comes,
I
wanted
to
be
involved
for
that
matter,
he's
interested
in
the
the
hospital
the
old
hospital
too,
and
we
made
an
offer
on
it.
We
didn't
win
the
offer.
Obviously
somebody
else
did-
and
he
said
at
that
point-
that
guy
will
never
do
it,
and
here
we
are
at
that,
but.
C
I,
don't
want
to
get
into
a
thing
where
we're
blaming
County
Council.
By
any
stretch
of
the
imagination,
we
hear
what
you
say:
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
and
go
through
the
process
because
we're
just
like
you,
we
want
what's
best
for
the
city
and,
as
the
mayor
alluded
to
he's,
going
to
talk
about
it
in
the
state
of
the
city,
address
I.
Think
you're,
going
to
like
what
we've
tried
to
put
together.
It's
not
a
something
that
you
can
just
say.
C
Well,
here's
what
we're
going
to
do
because
we
don't
really
know
until
it's
all
said
and
done,
and
we
get
to
that
point
and
I
appreciate
your
patience
to
this
point.
We're
going
to
get
there.
Everything
will
be
fine,
I'll
State,
my
reputation
on
it
I.
You
know
we're
going
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
just
like
we
intended
to
when
we
started
this
hadn't
worked
out
exactly
according
to
plan.
That's
for
sure,
but
we'll
move
forward.
U
I,
don't
want
to
repeat
too
many
things
that
my
colleagues
have
already
said,
but
we
do
hear
you
and
we
have
been
hearing
you
and
to
piggyback
off
councilwoman
price.
That's
been
upsetting
and
a
lot
of
why
we
could
not
communicate
was
the
lawsuit
we
were
advised
not
to
speak
about
it.
So
you
have
to
understand
when
your
attorneys
are
telling
you
one
thing
you
most
of
the
time
should
take
your
attorney's
advice,
but
we
appreciate
your
coming
and
talking
to
us.
U
There
is
no
reason
that
we
cannot
all
work
together
for
the
betterment
of
our
city
and,
as
I
said,
one
of
the
other
meetings.
We
all
love,
Aiken
and
we
all
are
invested
and
having
this
be
something
good
and
I
think
that
only
one
other
city
had
ever
done.
This
in
my
is
that
correct,
I
can't
remember
someone
saying
that
I
think
it
was
Columbia,
so
you
know
it
wasn't
like
this
had
been
done
with
the
MDC
and
the
Redevelopment,
and
all
of
that,
so
we
were
doing
the
best.
U
We
could
did
we
make
mistakes,
yes,
and
we
are
not
blaming
anyone.
The
buck
stops
with
city
council.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
as
we
go
forward
and
I
think
we
can
make
Aiken
better
building
on
what
we
have
the
history
that
we
all
love
I
mean
there's
just
so
much
here
tonight
we
had
this
at
our
seat,
our
chairs,
from
the
Rye
patch
in
hopeland's
gardens
and
when
we
were
the
city
was
thinking
about
doing
that.
Oh
it
was
a
horrible
thing.
U
U
A
I
think
you've
heard
a
lot
from
where
council
members
hearts
are
right.
Now,
anyway,
you
know
I
wanted
to
say
Mr
Davis.
Your
comments
were
respond.
What's
your
plan
I
think
once
we
get
the
property
in
while
we
may
have
an
outline
and
I
think
some
ideas
have
been.
You
know,
let's,
let's
deal
with
the
hotel,
let's
find
a
competent
person
to
redevelop
or
develop
and
come
through,
maybe
some
smaller
bites
of
the
Apple
type
thing
and
and
really
do
something
that
we
you
know.
We've
we've
heard
the
comments.
A
This
allows
us
to
do
that
as
a
first
step
and,
frankly,
the
way
we
can
get
that
I
think
you'll
see
certainly
an
open
ear
to
a
lot
of
stakeholders
who
have
been
patient
through
this
and
and
maybe
didn't
feel
like
they
got
the
proper
say
in
the
first
go
so
I
think,
as
that
plan
is
developed
as
it's
back
in
the
city,
I
think
you'll
see
that,
with
the
input
from
a
lot
of
people
in
this
room
at
least,
we
hope
so
and
I
would
Echo
I.
A
Think
again,
what
all
the
council
members
have
said,
I
think
they've
all
spoken
well
for
themselves,
appreciate
Miss
price,
our
comments
and
agree.
I
mean
I,
no,
no
fault,
in
anything,
apologies
to
amdc
members
because
of
the
position
we
put
them
in
with
this
vehicle
because
they
are
people
we
respect,
respect
in
the
community
with
their
integrity,
and-
and
you
know
this
isn't
in
no
way
of
a
a
slap
to
to
them.
A
I
mean
we
understand
the
position
that
we're
in
and
the
buck
does
stop
with
Council
on
the
buck,
because
mayor
certainly
stops
with
me
and
I
set
that
responsibility.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
input
and
time
through
through
this
and
I
know
as
we
move
forward
get
this
done,
get
the
property
moved
forward.
A
Look
forward
to
maybe
not
just
meetings
like
this,
where,
where
we
have
the
barrier
here
Jenny,
but
some
meetings
at
the
table
also.
So
thank
you
for
that.