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From YouTube: Design Review Board Work Session February 2, 2021
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Design Review Board Work Session
February 2, 2021
5:30
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A
B
D
C
Okay:
okay,
well
welcome
to
the
february
2021
work
session
for
the
design
review
board,
and
we
may
have
some
other
board
members
joining
the
meeting
and
mary
katherine.
Hopefully,
can
we
can
let
them
in
you
all?
Have
your
agenda
package
suspect
and
one?
Maybe
one
good
starting
point-
is
the
the
new
matrix
the
new
and
improved
matrix
in
which
mayor
catherine
has
highlighted
some
of
our
previous
comments
and
then
questions
of
whether
you
want
to
adopt
some
changes.
C
You'll,
probably
see
that
ones
we've
already
approved,
are
in
green
and
then
over
on
page
three,
I
believe
the
ones
that's
where
we
I
believe
we
left
it,
there's
a
question
that
we
had
about
whether
this
would
be
a
demolition.
C
Yeah
yeah.
Well,
I
think
it
if
it's
let's,
let's
give
that
a
minute,
because
if
it's
a
landmark,
let's
just
let's
just
act
like
it's,
it's
partial
on
a
landmark
if
it
were
partial,
it
wouldn't
matter
whether
be
complete
or
or
partial.
If
it's
a
landmark-
and
I
think
the
same
would
hold
true
on
contributing.
D
C
That
that
it
would
come
to
our
design
review
board
and
now
the
the
non-contributing,
it
looks
like
that
we
tentatively
had
said
it's:
okay
for
the
for
the
staff
and
the
chairman
to
to
review
a
demolition
of
a
non-contributing
property,
or
we
all
still
good
with
that.
C
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
we
we
we
ended
up
now,
I'm
going
to
go
right
down
that
page
and
then
at
the
very
bottom
garage
without
additional
living
space,
just
just
a
garage
if
it's,
if
it's
with
a
landmark
or
contributing,
I
think
the
whole
board
looks
like
we.
We
want
the
whole
board
to
to
agree
to
that
and
then,
if
it's
non-contributing
it
could
be
a
staff
and
chair
recommendation
unless
we
decide
to
refer
it
back
to
the
board
now
once
again,
mayor
catherine's
wanting
clarification
is
that
right.
D
Yeah,
I
believe
lucy
maybe
suggested
possibly
differentiating
between
garages
with
living
space
versus
those
without.
C
D
Yeah,
the
next
page
has
garage
with
additional
living
space-
okay
and
that's
new,
and
I
I
differentiated
between
new
construction
or
demolition
and
then
just
modifications
to
existing.
C
And
you're
saying
that,
let's
just
let's
call
it
right
now,
garage
apartment,
that's
with
additional
living
space
landmark
requires
drb,
full
board
contributing
is
is
drb
now
this
is
this
is
a
new
new
building,
our
demolition
of
this
of
same
non-contributing,
of
a
garage
apartment
in
a
yeah,
an
a
historic
district.
C
D
A
E
C
C
E
C
So
really
the
way
it's
set
up
the
way
you're
showing
it
is
probably
the
way
we
want
to
have
it,
but
okay
modifications
to
an
existing
one,
a
landmark
yes
contributing,
yes,
maybe
non-contributing,
I
say
contributing.
Yes,
we
had
a.
We
had
an
option
there
of
saying
contributing
would
be
located
to
to
have
the
director
and
staff
review
for
guru.
This
is
this
is
confusing
when
we
say
with
or
without,
I
think,
there's
a
difference
if
it's
a
just
a
plain
garage
as
opposed
to
garage
apartment.
C
Different
okay:
now
should
we
go
down
to
the,
I
think,
where
we
were,
we
really
needed
to
pick
up
this
down
with
handicapped
ramps.
Well,.
C
Well,
if
we
can
change
that,
instead
of
lumping
them
together-
let's
say:
let's
say
it's
a
garage
apartment
with
it's
traditional
living
space
now
drb
would
would
would
approve
it
for
either
a
landmark
or
contributing,
and
these
are
modifications.
C
Okay,
that's
what
that's!
What
we're
reading
right
here,
okay
and
and
now
non-contributing
we're
we're
saying:
if
it's
modifications
and
it's
a
non-contributing
property,
would
it
be
okay
for
just
the
staff
to
to
review
it
and
and
then
that's
that's
with
living
space.
B
C
So
actually
we
need
to
move
the
bottom
line
over
the
bottom
x
moves
over
for
with
additional
living
space
and.
A
B
C
E
C
You
got
that
mary
catherine,
yes,
okay,
now
we're
down
at
handicap
ramps.
I
think
that
y'all
you
all
may
want
to
see.
This
is
the
way
the
matrix
is
currently
written
with
the
drb
doesn't
see
handicap
ramps
y'all
wanted
on
a
landmark.
Do
you
want
to
see
the
ramp
yeah.
C
No
well,
I
don't
think
we're
we're
we're
you
have
to.
We
can't
really
have
any
it's
hard
to
verify
how
long
it
will
stay
there.
I
think
you
have
to
assume
it
might
be
there
for
a
while
they
may
they
may
be
able
to
sell
their
solution
a
little
more
easily
if
they
say
it's.
You
know
I
have
a
an
in-law
who's
living
here
temporarily,
but
but
I
think
in
terms
of
the
matrix
it
it
sounds
like
we.
C
B
B
And
I
have
seen
no
permanent
okay,
so
the
temporary
ones
or
ones
like
the
hay,
hats
and
all
that,
and
that
was
none
and
really
that
the
see
what
were
the
permanent
ones,
I
would
go
with
with
any
horse
feeder.
A
B
C
B
B
A
C
B
B
D
A
A
C
Light
fixtures:
I
do
see
a
question
mark
on
light
fixtures.
What
was
I
think
we
decided
that
no
certificate,
so
somebody
suggested
it
and
then
we
realized
that
would
be
a
bunch
of
light
fixtures
that
the
staff
would
have
to
review.
If
not
the
bull,
the
board.
So
did
we
decide
to
maybe
just
take
light
fixtures
off
or
we
want
to
keep
it
for
landmarks.
C
A
F
C
C
Yeah,
it
could
have
a
little
house
so,
but
we're
not
saying
that
the
designer
reborn
needs
to
see
the
doghouse.
B
Well,
I
think
I
think,
that's
planning
you
know
if,
if
it's
a
huge
kennel,
then
the
the
chairman
can
send
it
to
the
board
if.
B
D
Yeah
you
there
are,
mr
chairman,
two
two
applicants
potential.
C
B
A
C
The
board,
okay,
so
mayor
catherine,
that's
where
we're
stopping
we're
stopping
down
at
the
bottom
of
of
page
five,
I
believe
yeah
before
we
got
into
patios
and
there's
quite
a
bit
there's
more
than
we
can
do
tonight.
Okay,
so
now
the
I
know,
we've
got
a
couple
of
you
that
have
joined
us,
and
just
we
mentioned
earlier,
even
before
the
work
session,
that
there
are
a
couple
of
letters
that
came
in
regarding
the
sumter
street
garage
relocation
is
being
shifted.
C
You
know
more
to
the
middle
of
the
lot,
it's
no
longer
and
it's
rotated,
and
so
we've
gotten
two
letters
that
mayor
catherine
sent
you
all
and
they
will
not
be
on
your
screen.
So
we
may
discuss
those
if
we
have
time
we'll
discuss
them
in
the
work
session.
They'll
they'll
obviously
come
up
during
the
main
meeting.
But
if
you
have
a
moment-
and
you
can
find
those
on
your
on
your
on
your
computer
on
your
screen,
then
that
would
be
good
to
to
have
seen
them.
Have
you
all?
D
C
Yeah
and
it's
kind
of
cumbersome
to
read
the
whole
for
mary,
katherine,
to
read
the
whole
thing:
there's
not
really
a
mechanism,
you
know
to
you,
know
to
put
it
in
into
the
slides,
but
just
want
to
make
you
aware
of
them.
So
when
we
get
to
that
point
you'll
you
will
have
have
seen
those
letters.
Do
you?
Would
you
all
like
to
just
go
straight
into
the
criminal
9?
C
I
believe
there
are
ten.
It's
like
five
five
buildings
with
they're
they're
two-story
and
there's
some
pretty
good
drawings
in
here.
This
is
on
from
brian
south
and
he's
listening
in
and
he
may
be
able
to
answer
questions
if,
if
we
had
them,
are
we
doing
that.
D
C
C
Do
you
all
you
all
see
those
board
members
and,
and
they
they
really
are
very
similar
to
the
ones
now
that
are
on
on
chesterfield
yep.
A
C
Okay,
now
the
ones
I
may
want
to
ask
our
applicants
the
ones
on
chesterfield
those
were
hardy.
Well,
that's
not
hardy
board
siding
yes,
okay
and
there's
the
lot
now
it's
actually.
If,
if
you're
going
down
park
avenue
you
go
just
past
the
railroad
depot
it'll
be
right
across
the
park
they'll
front
on
the
park.
G
E
C
That's
right
and
and
the
railroad
track
is
the
bottom
of
our
screen
right,
correct,
okay,
so
that
so
it
faces
unions.
They
face
union
street,
not
the
park,
like
I
said
a
while
ago,
so
your
little
driveway,
your
little
driveway
comes
comes
in
or
it
probably
comes
in
off
of
cumberland
and
goes
out
onto
union.
G
A
C
E
You
know
you
just
said
that
cumberland
is
in
the
lower
portion
of
the
screen.
We
see
right
now
right.
A
A
C
C
Yeah
typically
downtown
you,
you
do
have
some
of
that
for
guest
parking
and
all
now
back
to
the
question,
because
I
noticed
that
this
is
vinyl
siding,
I
believe,
and
and
I'm
thinking
the
ones
downtown
on
chesterfield
or
hardy
board
did
y'all
say
that's
correct.
C
Okay,
now,
why
did
you?
Let
me
just
preface
this
with
we,
we
haven't
approved
a
lot
of
vinyl
siding.
You
know
in
the
last
few
years
for
for
various
reasons,
certainly
not
in
the
historic
district.
This
is
not
an
historic
district,
but
is
that
is
that
is
that
a
just
an
economic
issue?
There.
G
Well,
it's
really
more
than
that.
You
probably
think
five
years
back
would
people
be
selecting
vinyl
flooring,
blue
hardwood,
that's
just
an
example,
but
the
vinyl
exteriors
we've
used
over
the
years
in
subdivisions
and
the
neighborhoods
seem
to
be
better
maintained
because
they
can
be
pressure
washed
versus
painted,
there's,
also
a
cost
factor.
We've
had
a
serious
bump
in
material
cost
recently
and
per
unit
per
building.
I
mean
savings
is
about
eight
to
ten
thousand
dollars
and
our
proposal
would
be
a
four
inch.
G
G
C
C
C
Let's
do
this,
why
don't
we
have
because
this
is
in
the
work
session?
This
is
a
good.
I
I'm
I'm
real
glad
that
you
came
in,
but
this
it's
hard
for
us
to
see
this,
your
your
sample
on
zoom.
So,
if
you
could,
you
I'm
sure,
have
a
piece
of
this.
Do
you.
C
Yeah
they,
you
know,
if
you
call
them
sometimes
it'll,
come
here
and
come
almost
the
next
day,
so
they're
interested
in
selling
their
product.
So
that
would
be
a
good
thing
for
you
to
do
to
turn
into
staff
and
and
then,
if
you
you're,
anticipating,
maybe
bringing
the
the
full
application
next
month.
Is
that
right,
brian,
okay,
okay!
Well,
let's
let's
move
on
then
I
didn't
want
to
get
hung
up
on
that,
but
I
think
that
would
that
would
have
been
a
question
to
come
up.
Do
you
all?
C
Have
you
all
have
other
other
questions.
E
A
We
have
ques
colors.
A
G
We
have
not
made
a
final
selection
on
card
we're
thinking
seriously
about
white
with
the
dark
architecture,
but
we
have
not
made
a
decision
on
color.
C
And-
and
you
have
you
have
a
a
vinyl
window,
I
believe
that'd
be
a.
I
guess,
appropriate.
G
C
E
Bullet
the
first
bullet
on
the
screen
down
at
the
bottom
says:
durable
wood
frame
system.
C
But
pelham
makes
both
big
both
okay,
okay
yeah.
That's
that's
another
thing
that
to
submit
preferably
well
you'll,
be
doing
this
because
of
the
application
deadline
ahead
of
time,
be
nice
to
have
a
sample
of
the
window.
If
that
was
possible,
what.
C
G
Soon,
to
be
all
occupied
very
soon,
probably
we'll
have
one
unit
available
for
three
weeks
or
so.
A
G
E
Okay,
so
you're
going
to
mark
that
up
for
this
application.
C
Yeah
he's
his
he's,
bringing
it
in
as
a
work
session
kind
of
sample,
but
we
understand
you've
got
to
you,
know,
refine
and
correct.
No,
I
think
if
we
can
coordinate
through
mary,
katherine
and
maybe
one
afternoon
if
anyone
would
like
to
go
see
for
the
windows,
for
instance,
looks
like
the
doors
are
going
to
be
wood,
real
wood
doors
inside.
G
G
C
G
Street,
so
we
can
penetrate
with
what
is
on
the
giles
park
side,
as
well
as
the
end
unit,
closer
up
to
wrestling
avenue.
C
Yeah
yeah
because
you'll
be
looking
across
the
park
at
at
the
one
on
the
end
now,
but
but
you
because
of
the
fire,
the
building
code
you're
not
allowed
to
have
any,
is
that
none
at
all
on
in
on
these
interior
units.
Is
that
correct.
C
A
F
H
H
Right
so
the
approvals
necessary
are
one
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
regarding
how
they're
constructed
architecturally
from
the
drb,
and
then
there
is
a
administrative
approval
of
a
preliminary
and
final
plat.
That
would
deal
with
the
utilities
and
side
improvements.
C
C
G
That's
what
we
have
on
on
chesterfield
as
well,
and
we
planted
some
monkey
grass
on
both
sides
of
the
walkways
to
absorb
from
the
gutter.
C
C
A
C
D
G
G
C
Well,
why
don't
we
get?
Why
don't
we
brian
can
get
some
probably
a
little
bit
more
answers
on
things
like
that
in
terms
of
runoff,
of
where
these
downspouts
are
going
to
connect
or
not,
and
they
might
connect
with
underground
barrel
or
something
right?
Yes,
yeah
so,
but
we
we
may
need
to
move
on,
because
we
have
a
couple
of
other
things
to
if
y'all
don't
mind
it's
getting
to
where
it's
about
almost
10
after
six.
Is
that
okay
to
move?
C
E
F
A
C
Now,
the
the
corner,
we
have
a
single
family
home
that
is
on
corner
of
carlaton
and
east
boundary
sort
of
down
where
colleton
makes
a
jog.
I
guess
is
that
right.
D
Yes,
it's
right
across
from
the
little
park
yeah
on
carleton.
A
C
Okay-
and
you
all
see
this
is
this-
is
a
preliminary
now
she's
got
some
photos
of
other
cottages.
C
And
the
the
building
has
a
nice
steep
roof
and
it's,
I
hope
it's
gonna
be
elevated
off
of
the
ground
like
it's.
Would
that
be
correct.
I
Can
you
see
me
yeah,
I
offered
either
wood
siding
or
hardy
board
depends
what's
available,
how
much
it
costs
what
I
can
get
quicker.
I
E
I
I
C
I
C
C
E
Merry
will
you
show
us
the
the
lot
plan.
E
That
this,
this
rendering
you
have
here
is
facing
carlaton.
E
You
have
looks
like
a
metal
roof
over
that
front
entrance.
There
is
that
going
to
be
the
same
for
the
rest
of
the
house.
I
Yeah
I'd
like
a
standing,
seam
metal
roof.
You
know
aluminum.
I
E
You
know
it
doesn't
really
look
like
many
of
the
houses
in
the
neighborhood
in
terms
of
fitting
in,
but
I
also
don't.
I
don't
find
it
unappealing
at
either.
I
you
know,
I
don't
think
I
really
have
an
issue
with
it.
Even
though
it
you
know
it
doesn't
really
match
the
style
of
the
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood.
D
E
C
Yeah
we
always
get
back
to
where's
the
car
park
and
and
the
driveway,
but
you
can
flip
that
it
wouldn't
matter
to
us.
If
you
had
to
flip
it
reverse
it.
So
the
porch
is,
on
the
right
hand,
side
or
vice
versa.
You
know
thinking
about
where
you,
where
your,
where
you
come
in,
I
guess
you'll
come
in
the
front
door,
that's
where
the
little
kitchenette
is.
Isn't
it.
A
A
C
Comments:
okay,
okay,
yeah;
we
have
a
few
more
minutes
and
I'm
trying
to
go
through
the
normal.
I
know
we've
got
some
of
our
applicants
here.
That
burke,
I
believe
mr
burke
and
wesley
baldwin.
C
Yeah,
that's
they're
in
on
the
work
session,
now:
okay,
why
don't
we
go?
Why
don't
we
go
back
to
the
well?
We
have
time.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any
were
any
real
outstanding
questions
on
these
others,
but
the
main
thing
is
the
shift
that
we
wanted
to
bring
people's
attention
to
the
to
joe
harrison's
garage.
C
Minute,
we've
we've
approved
the
design;
now
he
changed
the
design
and,
and
he
had
he
wrote
he
had
rotated
it.
I
guess
so
that
he
had
his
little
balcony
facing
the
rear
of
of
the
main
residence
and
the
new
one.
C
The
new
one
now
he's
realizing
he
felt
like
he.
There
were
some
concerns
with
automobile
automobile.
Turning
to
get
in
turning
making
a
a
left
turn
to
get
in
the
garage
in
and
out.
Okay,
there
we
go
now.
They
you
see
on
the
left-hand
side,
was
the
the
approximate
location
of
in
the
little
balcony,
she's
actually
dashed
in
and
read
the
little
balcony.
The
way
we
voted
and
approved
it.
C
Okay,
now
the
the
he
he's
he's
wanting
to
shift
it
over.
It
has
to
be
10
feet
off
the
side
off
the
right
hand,
side
and
off
the
rear.
So
that's
what
you
see
on
the
right
hand
side
of
this
drawing
so
the
vehicle
will
actually
have
to
make
a
little
a
little
hook
as
as
you
come
down,
the
drive
it'll
make
a
little
turn
to
get
into
the
garage
and
and
then
I'm
not
sure,
we've
discussed
how
you
turn
whether
you
turn
around
or
just
back
all
the
way
back
out.
E
A
sight
plant
exhibit
b
that
you've
got
in
here,
mary
catherine.
That's
got
it
drawn
a
little
different.
E
E
D
C
E
Yeah,
well,
the
last
one,
the
last
one
that's
and
I'm
I'm
not
at
exhibit
b,
I'm
actually
at
exhibit
a
it's
labeled,
exhibit
b,
there's
two
pages
in
there
and
there's
one
that
looks
like
it's
a
cold
creek
nursery
plan.
That's
got
a
garage
with
a
turnaround,
but
it
still
faces
the
road.
Do
you
see
that
when
mary
katherine.
C
D
Well,
he's
doing
the
driveway
up
to
the
up
to
the
the
lot
line.
C
D
C
Okay,
if
you
can
hear
us
good
yeah
this
one
now,
we
that
we,
we
believe
is,
is
the
one
that's
up
on
the
screen
now
that
shows
the
sod
on
the
left-hand
side
and
it,
and
it
shows
a
little
jog
in
the
driveway
and
but
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
coal
creek
quote
coal
creek
nursery
landscape
plan
is,
is
that
the
one
that
was
originally
approved
way
way
way
back?
You.
C
E
That
we
got
screen
shows
the
the
addition
of
the
deck.
C
E
C
J
C
Because
it's
it's
partially
on
the
way
up
to
the
second,
you
see
the
second
floor
dash
lines.
Yes,
so
it's
not
up
there,
yet
it
has
to
go
up
for
another
flight
of
stairs.
So
it's
in
the
range
of
what
a
fence
do
you
have
an
idea
of
what
height
of
your
fence,
yeah.
J
Yes,
there
is
a
there's,
an
eight
foot,
privacy
fence
in
the
rear,
and
I'm
going
to
continue
it
the
right-hand
side.
My
neighbor's
already
put
a
six-foot
fence:
okay,
the
left-hand
side,
I'll,
have
a
fence
there
as
well,
and
the
folks
that
are
concerned.
J
C
Yeah
and
and
you're
and
you're
it'll
be
looking
sort
of
over
toward
the
apartments.
Yes
and-
and
you
may
have
an
a
you
you
you
almost
said
you
would,
you
might
continue
the
eight
foot
fence.
C
Okay,
okay,
all
righty,
so
yeah
that
whole
corner
is
an
eight-foot
corner
and
you're
in
your
balcony's
gonna
be
a
couple
feet
below
that.
That
is
true!
All
righty!
Do
you
just
for
our
information?
What
sort
of
we
we
see
all
these
shrubs
and
all,
but
that
may
or
may
not?
I
don't
think
we're
really
voting
on
a
landscape
plan
necessarily,
but
what
but
do
you
have
plans
for
some
shrubbery
across
the
back.
J
C
A
C
Now,
let's
see
if
others.
E
Yeah
I
got
a
question
about
the
looking
at
the
floor
plan.
I'm
not
sure
what
page
that
is
mary,
catherine,
but
the
second
floor
floor
plan.
E
A
A
J
Shows
it
turning
in
yeah.
E
E
Why
you
had
the
stairs
on
the
inside
of
the
house
rather
than
going
up
to
the
deck
to
start
off
with
I
mean
because
you
can
get
some
more
square
footage.
You
know
if
you
put
your
stairs
outside.
J
A
E
J
E
C
I
C
Okay,
the
do
you
all
have
other
questions
here
about
this
change,
because
this
is
a
it's
an
amended
application,
so
we'll
have
to
vote
on
the
change
in
the
orientation
and
the
the
shifting
to
to
the
to
the
setback,
the
10-foot
setbacks
and,
and-
and
you
have
to
be
aware-
that
we've
had
a
couple
of
letters
that
have
been
sent
to
mary,
katherine.
C
Yeah,
okay-
and
I
guess
our
other
board
members,
maybe
have
seen
them
mainly
they
the
concern.
C
Is
that
that
perhaps
people
would
be
able
to
see
from
that
balcony
into
the
backyards?
C
I
don't
think
the
people
in
the
apartments
are
so
concerned,
but
it
sounds
like
the
neighbors
directly
to
the
rear
are
then
then
the
sten,
cabbage
and
and
and
james,
I
believe,
with
the
letters
are,
are
caddy
cornered?
Is
that
right,
diagonally,
yeah,
they're.
E
A
J
We
made
it
lower,
so
we
could
get
from
the
apartment
out
to
the
deck.
That's
where
the
grill's
going
to
be
the
way
if
the
stamps
went
all
the
way
up.
I
couldn't
cross
the
steps
I
had
to
have
a
landing
in
there
and
you
got
to
have
room
to
work
with.
So
that's
why
it's
only
six
feet:
two
inches
off
the
floor.
Yeah.
J
C
E
J
Ben,
I
think
it's
eight
feet.
I
thought
it
was
10
because
it's
just
so
massive
and
big,
but
I
was
out
there
earlier
today
and
the
eight
foot
fence.
That's
on
the
rear
of
this
lot
looks
like
it's
the
same
height
as
my
neighbors
okay.
They
might
be
a
few
inches
taller
than
me,
but
not
much
more
than
that.
J
C
All
right
you
all
now
now
we
can.
We
can
sort
of
refer
to
that.
C
C
Yeah
yeah:
we
are
about
time
to
go
into
to
take
our
break
one
minute
break.
I
believe.