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From YouTube: Design Review Board May 4, 2021
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Design Review Board
May 4, 2021
6:30 PM
Call to Order
Minutes
Old Business
Application CERD21- 001030: Applicant Brian L. South requests approval of six single-family residences at the northeast intersection of Cumberland Lane SE and Union St. SE (TMP 121- 30
04-010). CONTINUED FROM APRIL 6, 2021 MEETING
New Business
A) Application CERH21- 046: Applicant Sarah Brennan Heilig requests approval of replacement windows at 223 Trafalgar St SW (TMP 105- 07- 05- 004).
B) Application CERH21- 048: Applicant Nathan Stewart requests approval to replace the roof at the Old St. Mary' s Help of Christians Catholic Church, 125 Park Ave. SE( IMP. 121- 29- 06- 002).
Information
Adjournment
C
C
Okay,
I
got
you,
I
got
them
good
now.
We
want
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
meeting
we're
going
to
transition
from
the
work
session
to
the
actual
meeting
of
design
reborn
here
for
for
may,
and
the
first
thing
we'll
do
is
to
see
if
you
all
would
have
a
motion
on
the
minutes
that
you
have
now
for
people.
C
All
right,
all
in
favor
of
these
minutes,
as
I
submitted,
raise
your
right
hand.
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
one
of
the
mary's
is
gonna.
Read
this
first
application.
Please.
E
E
First
I'll
just
address
the
two
changes
since
the
submission
we
did
a
couple
weeks
ago.
The
first
is
that
the
house
that
you
see
on
the
right
there
with
the
uncovered
balcony,
we've
removed
that
and
we've
also
changed
the
position
of
the
driveway
on
union
street
to
be
between
the
first
and
second
house.
Instead
of
before
both
of
them,
we
have
presented
to
you
five
different
floor
plans.
E
E
This
is
what
we
would
like
the
what
I've
given
you
in
the
in
the
printed
packet
to
be
our
final
product,
but
again
it
can
change.
E
Beyond
that,
I
think
there
were
some
questions
from
last
last
session.
Did
you
want
to
address
those
now
or
when
we
come
back.
C
C
You
don't
have
to
go
room
by
room,
but
you
can
go.
You
could
make
sure,
because
it's
we've
we've
had
a
collection
of
of
plans
and
a
lot
of
times
they're
on
the
back
in
the
front
and
all
that.
So
I
think.
E
That
one's
gone
yeah,
the
blue
one,
the
odd
one
yeah
this
one
is
referred
to
as
the
charleston
floor
plan,
two
storage
inches
on
the
top
story.
It's
a
supreme
court
for
part
of
it
below
is
open,
no
fencing.
It
shouldn't
be
high
enough
to
need
it
open
to
below
staircase
and
the
great
room
entrance
front
doors
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
building
on
the
front,
the
single
storage
plan
we'll
have
a
vaulted
ceiling
and
a
dormer
window
to
accommodate
that.
E
E
The
other
the
next
floor
plan,
I
believe,
is
the
corner.
Building
got
a
wraparound
second
story:
porch
screen
porch
on
the
bottom
master
bedroom
in
the
front
six
foot
tall,
three
foot,
five,
six
over
six.
F
E
Saying
yes,
so
the
the
single
here
can
have
a
gable
or
a
hip,
the
duplex
can
have
a
gable
or
a
hip.
The
one
labeled
hybrid
in
your
packet
can
have
a
gable
or
a
hip.
E
E
The
only
thing
that
changes
is
that
the
bathroom
master
bathroom
configuration
moves
a
bit
to
allow
for
that.
It
still
has
a
70
foot
deep
footprint,
so
it
needs
that
storage
space
in
the
back
two-bedroom
for
each
open
concept,
living
room
kitchen
in
the
front,
eight
foot
deep
porch
on
the
front
balcony
on
top,
I
think
that's
all
of
them,
yep.
C
Right
so
you
have
the
the
dupe:
that's
the
duplex,
which
is
a
two-story
version
of
the
single
story
right
more
or
less
okay,
and
then,
as
we
said,
we
aren't
quite
sure
until
you
get
your
purchaser
on
board,
whether
they'll
go
with
the
gable
or
the
or
the
hip.
C
Can
I
ask
you
a
question:
this
is
just
a
minor
detail
if
you
put
that
dormer
up
there
like
that,
can
you
can
you
not
connect
the
ridge
of
the
dormer
with
the
ridge
of
the
house?
C
And
then
you'd
have
metal
on
the
little
roof.
I
guess
the
the
single
store
is
going
to
have
a
single
roof.
Probably
metal
almost
has
to
be
yeah.
Okay,
okay,
do
y'all
see.
Are
we
okay
on
that?
As
far
as
the
concept
we
already
know
what
the
house
is
like
over
on
chesterfield,
I
think
our
concern
last
time
was,
and-
and
this
would
be
the
thing
you
all
bring
back
in
terms
of
some
dimensions
of
well.
C
Even
even
we
don't
know,
we
think
y'all
are
going
to
have
nine
foot
ceilings,
but
we
aren't
sure,
but
this
this
will
show
dimensions
to
the
ceiling
height
and
also
the
dimensions
which
makes
a
big
difference.
How
much
overhang
you
know
the
soffit
has,
and
if
it
has
a
gutter
that'll
help
to
know.
C
Okay,
so
when
we
you
know,
if
we,
if
you
said
well,
this
is
the
one
we
want
to
start
with
that
that
there
might
be
one
you
could
bring
back,
because
that's
apparently
the
one
you
want
to
build.
First
up
on
plot.
C
C
E
Especially
with
material
costs.
C
Well
tell
you
what
that'll
be
on
your
next
submittal,
because
that'll
be
telling
us
four
inch.
Soffit
we've
got
our
nine-foot
ceilings
vinyl
and
we'll
vote,
but
not
tonight
I
don't
think
we're
not
quite
there
yet
so
now,
the
next,
the
next
little
plan,
which
one
do
y'all
want
us
to
to
consider
next,
because
I
think
we
could
go
through
and
conceptually.
C
Do
you
all
see
that
in
your
packet,
it's
it's
sort
of
in
the
middle?
I
guess
this
is.
It's
got
the
wrap
around
porch
on
the
second
floor.
C
Brian,
what
do
you
think
about
the
door
there
without
any
cover
over
it,
some
sort
of
little
portico
yeah?
Okay,
that's
kind
of
thing
that
you
know
I
think
we
might
can
approve
conceptually,
but
then,
when
you
brought
back
drawings
it
would
clarify
yeah.
So
the
front
door
you
see
is
is
right
on
the
face
of
the
building
that
it
will
be
difficult
to
weather.
Proof
like
that,
so
downstairs
has
a
screen.
Porch
upstairs
has
an
open
porch.
Is
that
right?
That's
right!
Yep,
okay,
okay,.
C
One
little
dormer,
that's
interesting:
what
is
that?
What
is
that
little
dormer
on
the
left
that
would
be
it
would
be
up
in
an
upper.
E
C
C
So
the
balcony
that
that
actually,
the
there's
not
much
that
opens
down
into
there
is
there
it
may
that
open
space
is
primarily
for
the
benefit
of
the
people.
On
the
first
floor,
exactly
but
there's
no
opening
not
not
presently,
no,
not
opening
down
from
the
second
floor,
other
than
stairs.
E
Katie,
I
believe
it
would
be,
could
be
on
the
side
where
the
long
stretch
of
kitchen
counter
is.
But
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan
it
could,
it
could
go
together.
B
E
C
Well,
there's
there's
a
potential
of
a
door
because
your
parking
space
is
going
to
be.
Is
there
a
way
you
can
get
a
door
next
to
that
kitchen
counter.
E
There
is,
but
we
don't
have
a
walkway
there,
that
if
you
look
at
the
pathway
that
you
would
take,
it's
just
the
same
to
go
to
the
street
and
walk
to
the
front.
E
No
impacted
dirt.
B
C
Yeah,
okay,
so
now
we
can,
I
think,
conceptually
where
you
put
doors,
it's
not
a.
F
C
C
C
E
That
could
be
a
walkway,
but
it
it
wouldn't,
it
might
seem
shorter,
but
it
it
actually
isn't.
It
would
just
be
a
corner
going.
The
other
way
well.
E
F
E
B
Yeah,
so
the
colors
that
you
have
on
the
handout
are
those
denoting
where
there
will
be
individual
lights.
G
C
Okay,
we
really,
I
believe
we
we
would
advise
that
you
have
a
way
to
get
to
three
units
three
and
four,
without
going
out
to
the
street
and
across,
and
I
just
as
a
practical
matter.
One.
C
Do
you
all
understand
what
what
I'm
talking
about
those?
Certainly,
if
you
park
in
front
you'd,
be
probably
okay,
but
it
it
it.
It
seems
like
something
now
that
would
be
easy
to
address.
H
E
Spaces
I
mean
it
it's
either
or
question.
B
So
is
there
a
sidewalk
there
now,
no.
B
F
C
Okay,
well,
I
think
y'all
heard
comments
about
about
parking,
accessibility,
yeah.
We
are
reviewing
the
site,
layouts
and,
and
we
and
we're
gonna
have
more
and
more
of
a
dense
development
and
they
work.
They
work,
fine
they're,
nice
scales
and
all
that,
but
you
do
have
to
think
about
how
you
know.
How
do
you
get
from
here
point
a
to
point
c
out
to
point
g
before
we
get
back,
you
know
to
to
be
here.
H
E
Be
grabbed.
We've
got
monkey
grass
on
either
side
there's
about
a
foot
and
a
half
of
space.
If
you
do
the
walkway
well,.
C
A
G
Okay,
just
see
that
walkway
modified
as
you
as
you're
discussing
it.
Now,
because
if
we
come
back,
we
have
to
approve
the
site
plan
with
changes
or.
C
You
mean
here
we'll
see
where
I
I
can't
say
without
some
when
we
get
to
the
motion,
we'll
have
discussion
and
and
and
y'all
can
respond,
but
the
yeah.
C
C
See
what
the
motion
includes,
but
personally
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
the
ability
to
get
to,
for
instance,
my
house
here
if
I
do
park
back
there,
and
I
don't
think
I
want
to
leave
my
car
out
there
necessarily
all
night.
Maybe
I
would
but
I
I
might
like
it
more
secure,
but
at
any
rate
be
nice.
If
you
could
walk
through
there.
E
Yeah,
but
we
don't
know
exactly
which
houses
will
go
in
which
space
so
we'd
have
to
come
back
to
it.
You're.
E
C
I
think
I
thought
brian
was
saying:
does
he
yeah
we,
we,
I
believe
we
we
see
what
what
you're
presenting
prove.
F
C
As
a
concept,
but
I
think,
as
a
concept,
that's
my
comment
is-
is
a
maybe
some
more
practical
access,
yeah.
B
B
B
C
B
E
A
A
So
it's
this
plan
plus
the
you
know
the
concept
of
the
various
building
plans,
which
can
change
a
little
bit.
F
B
And
I
was
sitting
here
making
some
notes,
it's
that
we
approve
the
overall
concept
with
up
to
six
houses.
You
know
you
know
to
consist
of
various
design
houses
that
are
similar
to
the
concepts
that
you
have
submitted
here
and
I,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what
you
guys
are
looking.
B
B
A
G
To
do
another
single,
we
would
have
a
choice
if
we
put
it
on
the
far
right.
F
C
C
You're
going
to
have
an
eight
foot
or
seven
foot,
eight,
maybe
one
to
head
height.
If
you
think
and
nine
foot
ceilings,
okay
and
then
y'all
can
decide
d.
Do
you
happen
to
have
transoms
over
your
doors
at
chesterfield
unit
and
those.
C
B
C
B
C
Yeah
so
now
we've
we've
really
discussed
a
lot
of
the
detail
here
and
the
hybrid.
I
was
curious.
Why
is
it
called
a
hybrid
number
on
lot.
E
Yeah,
so
it's
a
one
and
a
half
story.
This
is
this.
Isn't
it
right?
That's!
No!
Not
in
what!
What's
on
your
slides?
It's
it's
all
in
your
printed
package,.
F
C
C
C
C
C
Most
healthy
now
and
I
know
you'll
have
to
switch
some
colors
around.
Potentially,
I
think
the
variety
of
it
is
is
it
actually
is
helpful
for
the
overall.
G
I'm
gonna
try
to
stick
to
the
the
paint,
benjamin
moore,
historic
collection.
C
Now
you
don't
have
to
side
sheena
cut,
although
you've
listed
black,
do
you
all
feel
like
they
need
to
have
all
the
same
color
shingles?
C
C
A
variety
can
be
different
right:
okay,
okay,
does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
we'll
see
if
anybody
else
would
like
to
speak?
Thank
you,
brian
yeah.
Thank
you.
Yeah,
we've.
J
Just
for
staff's
clarification,
what
would
constitute
an
amendment
to
to,
if
you're,
approving
a
concept
plan
tonight
and
different
footprints,
you
know
building
floor
prints
end
up
getting
selected
for
each
of
these
spaces
with
that,
in
addition
to
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
new
construction.
For
that
lot,
would
would
we
also
have
to
amend
the
concept
plan?
C
B
C
We've
got
five
plans,
and
currently
you
would
bring
back
the
you
know,
your
your
your
construction,
drawings
or
at
least
design
development
drawings
of
whichever
ones
you
want
to
proceed
with.
You
could
bring
all
five
back
or
one
one
or
two,
and
then
we
would
vote
that's
when
we
would
actually
approve
that
particular
project.
That
particular
house
r5.
C
E
Would
they
need
to
be
approved
in
their
placement
as
well
or
could
we
bring
back
come
back
with
five
construction
plans.
G
Well,
positioning
the
houses
again
goes
back
to
the
pre-sale,
so
we
either
have
the
flexibility
to
shift
houses
to
different
lots.
That
will
accept
those
plans
or
we
don't.
A
The
anybody
else
have
we
determined
if
anybody
else
wants
to
speak
on
this.
B
B
Yeah,
whoever
the
is
submitting
for
the
building
permit,
it
seems
like
to
be
the
owner
of
record.
C
C
B
F
C
C
G
E
H
H
C
And
y'all
can
do
and
we're
approving
we
haven't
voted
yet,
but
presumably
we'll
approve
five.
These
five
houses,
okay,.
A
Well,
this
is
what's
approved
right
right,
depending
on
how
the
motion
goes
sure,
and
so
next
time,
if
you
come
back
and
you
say
well,
I
want
to
put
the
single
house
where
one
of
the
charleston
houses
is.
We
can
vote
on
that
and
amend
this
then,
but
I,
but
I'm
not
into
you,
know,
moving
stuff
this
this
is
what's
approved
and
when
you
I
mean
you
have
the
flexibility
to
come
back
and
ask
for
something
different
yeah.
E
A
E
J
C
C
You've
got
five:
if
you
got
five
buyers
next
month,
bring
all
five
in
and
say
we
got
here:
here's
where
they
go,
but
I
don't
see
how
we
can
approve
it.
If
you
don't
don't
even
know
where
it's
going
to
go,
I
think
you've
got
to
have
a
site
plan
where
we
need
to
approve
a
site
plan
yeah
with
the
house,
but
we're
not
negating
necessary
that
you
shift
some
around.
I
think
you're,
maybe
you're
misinterpreting
what.
F
C
C
G
A
B
G
And
jerry
smith
comes
in
and
wants
to
buy
the
charleston,
but
he
wants
it
on
the
corner.
We
have
to
wait
a
month
to
get
that
approved.
Yeah,
that's
right.
B
Just
just
to
throw
the
another
concept
in
here:
what's
the
opportunity
for
if
we
do
exactly
like
lucy
said
and
there's
some
change
in
there,
that
it
can't
be
administratively
approved,
because
we
do.
G
B
You
have
to
come
back
to
the
full
committee.
This
is
administrative
approval,
that's
that
was
my
question
yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
outside
to
try
to
coordinate,
because
you
know
this.
This
probably
won't
be
the
last
time
we
deal
with
an
issue
just
like
this,
and
we
you
know,
I
hate
I,
I
guess
being
you
know
when
you
own
your
own
business
and
you're
out
there
doing
things.
You
know
it.
B
C
That
that's
not
an
easy
answer
over
there.
Yeah,
let's
ask
we're
still
in
in
you
know,
not
quite
in
discussion
yet,
but
can
we
not
all
agree
that
that
the
that
the
two
on
union
street
and
three
on
cumberland
should
be
to
story
and
that
the
single
story
they
would
be
on
the
ends?
C
Now
that
that
I
think
we
we
even
lucy
said
it'd
be
okay
if
this
end
was
and
there's
a
single-story
house
right
beside
it?
Okay,
now
like
that,
that's.
B
C
E
Two
plans
can
fit
on
the
corner
and
that
would
be
charleston
and
the
and
the
one
that's
there
boston
and
this
one
now
yeah
just
the
rules.
I
mean
that
they
fit
already.
I
think,
with
what's
possible,
yeah.
C
So
now
I'm
I'm
asking
you
all
to
think
through.
That
is
that
a
problem?
If,
if
he
moves,
we
don't
know
that
he's
going
to
move
any,
we
might
be
talking
about
something
not
ever
going
to
happen,
but
right
if
he
just
if
one
of
the
owners
started
talking
about
wanting
that
unit.
There
is
that
is
that
a
problem
they're
all
just
see.
That's
what
we
don't
want
right.
There
correct
correct
right
for
several
reasons,
but
but
this
is
a
big
improvement,
and
so
I
think
we're
close
to
a
consensus
of
their
understanding.
C
C
And
then,
and
then
you
guys
as
you
come
back,
I
think
when
you,
when
you
get
your
drawings
done
and
you
get
some
interest
you
you
this
will
begin
to
fit
into
a
puzzle.
B
I
don't
think
this.
Like
mary
catherine
said,
I
don't
think
it
buys
you
anything
to
come
in
and
get
planned
approved
if
you
still
have
to
come
back
and
get
that
same
plan
approved
again
to
go
with
a
site
plan
that
you
know.
Why,
don't
you
just
wait
and
do
it
when
you
have
it?
Why
would
you
come
in
and
have
the
plans
approved
in
advance.
C
C
B
E
They're
nine
feet
wide
eight
feet:
eighteen
feet,
deep,
twenty
four
feet
behind,
plus
all
of
them.
C
And
I
don't
believe
that
maybe
mary,
the
two
mary's
in
the
downtown
business,
why
don't
you
clarify
they're,
not
required
to
have
all
street
parking,
but
if
they
do
they
need
to
and
it's
back
in
the
back,
do
they
even
need
to
landscape
it?
Are
there
some?
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
requirements,
some.
J
B
C
Yeah
there's
some
common
area
that
that
is
relevant
to
a
site
plan
review,
but
I
don't
believe
that
technically
they
required
to
have
any
off
street
we'll.
Let
you
all
you
guys!
We've
gone
at
this
now
an
hour
almost
so
we'll
we'll
go
ahead
and
see.
If
other
people
would
like
to
speak
and
then
we
can
have
a
vote,
then
we
can
vote
right.
We're
supposed
to
be
voting
on
this.
C
Now
would
anyone
else
like
to
speak
regarding
the
the
new
you
all
are
calling
it
cumberland,
green?
Okay,
I
don't
see
anyone
now
we
could
have
a
motion
and
if
y'all
want
to
discuss
some
more,
that's
fine.
J
J
C
We
we
would
want
some
elevation
scale
drawings
with
some
dimensions,
just
just
like,
as
we
said
a
while
ago
ceiling
heights,
and
it's
even
helpful
to
have
window
head
heights
and
and
and
soffit
yeah
simple,
simple
elevations,
really,
which.
C
Yeah
yeah
a
little
bit
more.
This
is
this
is
good,
since
you've
got
a
sort
of
multi-family
type
approach,
it's
good
to
see
it
as
in
a
three-dimensional
format,
but
I
believe
that
technically
we
need
to
see
as
we
vote
on
an
individual
house
and
you
all
have
to
do
that
to
build
it.
So
does
that
answer.
C
We
have
you
said
windows
in
here.
We
still
are
standard.
C
C
G
C
C
It
he's
actually
in
his
in
his
description,
he's
talking
about
some
vinyl
windows.
Similarly,
divided
lights,
that
was
sort
of
critical
and
he's
also
talked
about
the
potential
of
having
a
first
unit
out
of
vinyl,
but
I
believe
you,
you
could
clarify
that
in
your
in
your
construction
document
submittal
next
time.
C
If
we,
if
y'all,
don't,
want
to
include
that
in
this
motion,
you
can
leave
it
out.
Okay,
now
you
were
just
asking
that
question
to
clarify.
Okay,
are
you
just
want
to
clarify
the
what
the
motion
include?
Okay,
well,.
B
H
G
F
G
F
C
And
in
actuality,
then,
you
can
address
in
your
motion
if
we,
if
we
do,
approve
the
the
concept
plan
and-
and
he
puts
it
in
just
like
this-
he
almost
doesn't
need
another
vote
on
the
site
plan.
Would
that
be
correct
or
you
want
a
little
bit
more
on
the
next
on
the
final
site
plan.
B
C
Okay,
that's
all
we
have
yeah
so
just
as
you're
getting
we're
getting
drawings
with
scales
and
dimensions.
I
think
you
know
that's
a
legitimate
request
to
to
show
exactly.
You
know
how
how.
G
We
will
have
to
submit
a
proposed
plan
to
planning
for
signing
off.
Yes,.
B
B
G
G
G
C
But
I
believe
tonight
that
the
motion
then
would
would
approve
the
concept
that
we
see
of
of
one
two
three
four
two
stories
up
to
five
two
stories
and
up
to
two
single
story
on
the
ends.
C
Almost
you
got
to
do
a
plan
like
that
to
get
a
permit,
but
we'll
just
have
to
approve
it
as
you
get
as
you
get
specifics,
we'll
vote
on
it
and
hopefully
we'll
it'll
it'll.
I
think
what
we'll.
G
End
up
doing
is
coming
back
with
the
construction,
drawings
and
the
site
specifics
all
at
one
time,
in
order
just
because
of
timing.
B
C
Because
because
you're
going
to
have
a
site
plan,
I
believe
to
do
that.
Yeah
yeah,
all
right,
we'll
try
to
attempt
to
make
a
motion
then.
B
I
said
I'm
willing
to
let
someone
else
do
it,
you
will
let
do
it.
No
I'm
saying
you
knock
it
out.
You're
right,
I
don't
know
if
I'm
ready
or
not
so,
mr
chairman,
I
recommend
that
we
approve
certificate
cerd.
B
We
would
be
amenable
to
having
two
single
stories
on
the
end.
I
mean
two
single
story:
homes
on
the
end,
lots
with
two-story
homes
on
the
infield
lots.
B
F
A
So,
just
for
clarification,
the
the
the
two
charleston
houses
could
be.
Single.
Houses
could
be
substituted
for
the
charleston
houses.
B
The
motion
was
that
we
would
do
two
story-
houses
in
the
middle
and
and
could
do
single
stories
on
the
ends,
but
they
could
come
back
and
say
well.
We
want
to
do
two
stories
on
the
ends
or
whatever,
but
they
could
ask
for
anything.
They
want
to
ask
for
right
we're
just
basically
approving
a
concept
of
six
houses.
B
C
B
Now
what
I
specifically
left
out
of
my
motion
is
vinyl:
siding
grid
patterns
windows
right,
that's
all
part
of
the
construction.
That's
what
we'll
approve
later
right,
you
know,
and
so
I
didn't
get
any
specifics
or
features
other
than.
F
F
C
Yes,
yes,
yeah.
I
think
I
think
everybody
is
responding
favorably
to
what
y'all
the
work
y'all
have
done.
The
modifications
you've
done
the
scale
of
especially
exhibit
d
here.
So
any
other
discussion.
We've
got
motion.
Second,
okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
prove
the
concept
as
presented
in
exhibit
d
and
the
motion
in
favor
raise
your
right
hand.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
We
are
back
to
now
miss
heilig
and
would
you
mary,
would
you
read
her
application?
Please.
C
All
right
now
miss
haddock.
Would
you
come
to
the
lectern
now
and
give
us
your
name
for
the
record
and
your
address
please.
C
Right
this
is
being
recorded.
The
other
was
not
thank
you
now.
You
probably,
I
think
most
of
us
know
the
situation,
but
you
you
have
some
vinyl
windows
that
you've
ordered
they
currently
have
muttons
inside
the
glass
you're
in
the
historic
district.
C
We
we
understand
that
the
the
condition
of
the
windows
and
they
do
need
replacing.
C
I
C
Yeah,
so
that
might
be
a
way
to
get
squeeze
through
the
you
know
the
door
here.
So
do
you
all
have
questions
you'd
like
to
ask
cylic,
I
think
we've
been
able
to
discuss
it.
We
sort
of
know
the
situation,
it's
an
attractive
house
and
a
really
good
good
location
too.
H
B
I
I
C
Okay,
any
other
questions
then,
and
we'll
we'll
see
if
anyone
else
would
like
to
speak
with
regard.
Thank
you
we'll
we'll
go
ahead,
and
if
we
have
another
question,
I
think
we
were
able
to
get
most
of.
A
Our
information
I
just
have
one
it
looks
like
some
of
them
in
the
back.
Don't
have
the
device
divided
lights
now,
so
those
you
wouldn't
have
to
remake
right.
That's
that's.
I
C
C
C
Thing
they're,
just
on
the
top.
I
think
I
think
you're
saying
that
you've
already
gotten
buttons
ordered
for
the
top
of
these
in
the
back
that
don't
have
them
currently
in
the
top
at
all,
but
you've
got
them.
H
C
C
Yeah,
that's
right:
we've
had
some
experience
with
them
and
they
do
improve
the
appearance
of
the
house.
Yeah.
Okay,
so
now
we'll
see
if
anyone
out.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We'll
we'll
have
a
vote
in
just
a
second
anyone
else
like
to
speak
with
regard
to
replacement
windows
on
trafalgar
street.
If
not,
we
could
have
a
motion
on
this.
C
C
Well,
they
actually
are
would
be
simulated
divided
like
right
yeah.
They
they
would
rather
than
just
in
the
glass,
in
other
words,.
C
Okay,
we've
got
a
motion.
Second,
okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
amended
application
raise
your
right
hand.
Okay,
you've
got
a
motion
on
that
good,
and
now
we
have
one
more
and
I
believe
we
have
the
weight.
B
C
B
Still
nathan,
stewart
from
jamie
stewart
builders
representing
saint
mary's
church
we've
been
employed
to
oversee
the
procurement
and
the
execution
of
the
total
roof
replacement
of
the
metal
tile
shingles
on
the
old
sanctuary
at
125
park.
F
B
C
Okay
and
then
I
believe
everybody
was
here
earlier
and
understood
the
discussion
about
the
two
different
types
of
metal
shingle.
They
have
on
the
steep
on
the
steeple
itself
and
on
the
main
sanctuary,
roof
so,
and
you
have
to
you've,
actually
got
two.
C
B
C
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
consensus
of
two
or
three
folks
so
far,
including
your
roof
consultant
that'd,
be.
I
think
it
maintains
the
distinction
between
the
two
that
you
have
now
right
and,
and
the
only
other
thing
was
are
y'all
are
y'all
wanting
to
and
do
you
need
us
now
to?
C
I
don't
know
that
we
have
firm,
strong
feelings
about
about
the
color.
It's
almost
something
we
leave
the
chair
up.
The
church,
we'll
see
how
you
guys
want
to
make
the
motion.
B
C
And
you
had
you,
had
you
have
the
real
shiny
one
that
may
not,
I
think,
may
not
be
a
vice
favorite,
it's
a
straight
galvalume.
I
believe.
Then
you
have
a
weathered
galvalume
and
then
you
have
a
premium
metallic
or
something
like
that
sort
of
in
between.
B
Right
yeah,
the
galvalume
we
discussed
that
probably
is
not
the
best
option.
So
what
we're
looking
at
is,
let's.
E
B
B
There
are
the
thinking
is
or
any
of
the
colors.
Is
there
a
difference
in
the
longevity
of
the
colors
at
all?
I.
B
So
I
think
they
all
hold
a
standard
20-year
finish
warranty,
I'm
not
sure
what
I'm
sure
they
have
different
weather,
tightness,
warranties
that
you
can
purchase
obviously,
but.
F
A
So
I
would
suggest
that
if
they
change
their
mind
that
they
could
have
another
color
approved
administratively.
B
C
Okay,
good
now
we
then
we've
got.
I.
C
And
we'll
soon
have
a
color.
C
B
C
C
B
Which
includes
and
everything
and
so
actually
you're
going
to
do,
I'm,
I
think,
I'm
just
asking
a
question:
the
steeple,
which
would
do
in
the
the
classic
and
then
the
main
roof
and
the
main
bodies
in
the
victorian
and
in
certain
areas
you
do
the
modified,
bitumen
roof
roofing
right
if
they
elect
to
well
now
the
trim
and
the
coping
will
get
cleaned
and
re-coated.
F
B
The
spray
it's
it's
a
well,
it's
a
either
a
roll-on
or
brush-on
coat.
Okay,
okay,
the
right-
and
we
would
so
we
would
match
that
to
the
finish
of
the
metal,
the
the
low
slope,
roofs
they
may
or
may
not
elect
to
do
those
right,
but
those
would
be
tiki,
overs,
cpo,
okay,
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
mention
that
in
our
motion
do
we.
C
C
B
There
something
else
that
you
were
going
to
do.
You
were
going
to
repaint
yeah
the
coping
and
the
the
the
detail,
the
finial
detail.
C
We're
matching
the
new
color
this
time
right:
yeah,
okay,
good,
okay,
any
anyone
else
like
to
speak
with
regard
to
this.
I
don't
see
anyone.
Thank
you,
nathan.
I
believe
we've
got
more
than
enough
information,
and
would
someone
be
kind
enough
to
make
a
motion
about
the
two
shingles.
A
Cerh21-048,
I
move
that
we
approve
the
application
as
submitted
and
specifically
that
the
steeple
will
be
roofed
in
the
classic
shingle
and
the
main
part
of
the
church
will
use
victorian
and
the
color
is
to
be
of
the
shingles
are
to
be
zinc
coat
and
a
sherwin
williams
paint
coating
to
match
the
zinc
coat
will
be
used.
C
Good
that
covers
all
the
bases.
I
believe
we
have
a
motion.
Second,
any
other
discussion:
okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
shingle
replacement
at
st
mary's,
raise
your
right
hand,
good.