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From YouTube: Design Review Board March 7, 2023
Description
Design Review Board
March 7, 2023
6:30 PM
Call to Order
Minutes
Old Business:
A) Executive Session
B) Discussion and possible action on a maintenance plan for Hotel Aiken.
New Business
none
Adjournment
A
Meeting
to
order,
if
you
don't
mind
it's
it's
time,.
A
And
we
will
welcome
you
attendees
to
the
March
meeting
of
the
design
review
board
and
most
of
you
have
been
here
before
and
and
maybe
sat
on
the
board,
and
so
you
understand
that
we're
trying
we're
trying
to
assist
the
residents
and
Property
Owners
with
making
additions
and
improvements
to
their
property
that
are
visible
from
a
public
right-of-way
and-
and
we
generally
have
a
section
of
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
where
we
review
the
minutes
for
the
last
the
last
meetings
and
I'll.
A
Let
my
board
members
be
doing
that.
That's
the
February
21st
meeting
work
session
and
meeting.
Can
we
approve.
A
A
Okay,
the
minutes
are
approved
and
now
typically,
we
have
an
applicant
to
come
forward
to
the
center
microphone
to
give
their
name
and
address
and
to
explain
their
particular
project
and
I
think
we
might
ask
Mr
O'bryant
if
you
would,
if
you
would
set
this
up,
we
know
there's
some
other
Consultants
involved,
but
right
now
we're
talking
about
that
maintenance
plan.
I
believe
sure.
C
C
It's
good
to
keep
you
guys
up
to
date
with
it
and
as
we
work
together
on
it
specifically
to
the
maintenance
plan,
as
we
came
to
during
the
work
session
prior
to
May
31st,
roughly
90
days
from
now,
I
can
commit
within
my
departmental
budget
to
go
ahead
and
affect
the
10
by
12
roof
repair
to
the
large
hole
that
is
in
the
structure
also
to
replace
any
broken
windows
that
are
currently
in
the
facility.
C
And
then
we
have
also
agreed
and
I
could
probably
give
you
an
update.
Far
sooner
than
May
31st,
to
engage
again
from
my
departmental
budget
at
his
hourly
rate,
Glenn
Keys,
a
historic
architect
out
of
Charleston
South
Carolina,
to
evaluate
the
best
means
for
cleaning
the
exterior
of
the
building.
So
we'll
get
get
his
opinion
on
that
and
then
also
the
question
of
the
awnings
and
whether
they
can
or
should
be
repaired
or
removed
in
order
to
stabilize
the
structure.
C
And
then
the
the
unoriginal
porch
structure,
which
is
in
pretty
poor
condition
and
is
suffering
some
rot,
we'll
get
his
evaluation
of
how
much
that
contributes
to
the
building,
whether
it
should
be
removed
for
now.
I
do
have
some
safety
concerns
around
as
well,
and
then
anything
else
that
you
might
wish
to
get
an
opinion
from
the
architect.
C
You
can
share
that
with
me
tonight
or
we'll
I'll
make
sure
to
feedback
when
that
appointment
is
and
then,
if
you
want
to
add
anything
to
the
list,
but
that
would
be
the
initial
maintenance
plan
commitment
and
then
on
May
31st
or
the
next
meeting
thereafter.
We
would
come
with
the
next
steps
to
discuss
and
put
deadlines
to
those
and
make
sure
that
they
get
done
right.
A
Thank
you
so
essentially,
it's
very
close
to
the
draft
that
we
that
we
have
in
as
exhibit
V
and
we're
just
establishing
a
time
period
now
of
90
days
for
both
sounds
like
they
were
broken
down
into
roof,
roof
repairs,
not
replacement
but
roof
repairs
and
then
exterior
reconditioning,
repairs
and
and
windows
there.
So
yes,
that's
that's
good
good.
B
Question
yeah
I
do
Tim
what
was
the
year
that
or
the
fairly
close
time
frame
when
they
put
that
porch
out
there,
like
that
they're
covering
was
in
the
70s
I.
C
Think
it
was
the
70s
and
the
story,
I
recall,
is
the
the
building
inspector
at
the
time
went
home
on
a
Friday
and
drove
back
on
a
Monday,
and
it
was
there
okay,
there
was
no
permit
or
permission,
and
that
is
dot
right
of
way
and
it
was
built
over.
But
so
it's
been
there
since.
C
City
council
is
meeting
you
Monday
there
is.
There
is
not
anything
on
the
agenda
at
this
point,
and
the
agenda
has
not
been
completed
as
far
as
these
proposals,
but
I
will
be
transmitting
it,
and
that
will
be
the
first
opportunity
if
they
wish
to
have
it
on
the
agenda
that
they
would
discuss.
The
further
stabilization
proposals
we've
received
from
McMillan
past
and
Smith
and
team.
C
Firm,
yes,
I
believe
so,
and
also
another
commitment
along
those
lines.
Separate
from
the
maintenance
plan
is
that
I
have
recently
received
the
team
proposal
and
I
will
get
the
drb
membership
and
we
can
post
it
as
well
to
the
website.
A
summary.
Without
the
pricing
details
and
things
for
right
now,
right
until
city
council,
further
considers
that.
B
C
C
C
I'm
I'm,
charged
with
carrying
out
things
that
are
within
my
budget
and
those
would
be
amounts
that
I
feel
like
would
be
within
what
I
have
an
as
an
existing
budget
to
handle
those
kinds
of
issues.
The
larger
proposals
are
just
more
than
I
have
available
to
me
in
in
my
discretion,
that
would
have
to
be
a
specific
action
by
Council.
E
I'm
sorry,
but
Tim
during
the
work
session
you
had
Sanders
Tate
an
architect,
make
a
presentations
to
us
and
just
to
restate
it
for
the
record
here
and
I
will
paraphrase
but
I'd.
Rather
you
elaborate.
He
basically
said
that
you
know
he
felt
like
more
extensive
stabilization
methods
for
more
important
than
cosmetic
changes
to
the
overall
life
of
the
building
and
maybe
I
just
phrased.
C
That
but
yeah
just
about
that
yeah.
Just
to
summarize
what
Sanders
had
to
say,
you
know
he
toured
the
building
with
Craig,
Bennett
and
and
Barbara
price
here
several
weeks
ago.
C
Their
feeling
was
that
the
the
building
is
structurally
sound,
and
although
there
is
some
water
infiltration
that
we
want
to
make
sure
to
to
stop
that,
it's
not
an
imminent
danger
to
that
structure.
Just
because
of
how
strong
it
is
and
I
guess
he
used
the
term.
Don't
throw
good
money
after
bad
saying
that
we
want
to
think
about
a
stabilization
approach
and
adding
value
and
eliminating
risk.
C
I
think
was
the
big
point
that
he
made
when
we
do
put
this
on
the
market,
for
people
to
come
in
and
redevelop
it
as
a
hotel
apartments,
condos,
whatever
they
may
decide
they
wish
to
do.
His
firm
is
going
to
give
us
various
levels
that
we
could
bring
the
building
up
to
from
just
patching
and
repairing
all
the
way
to
doing
some.
Seismic
code
changes
actually
putting
diaphragms
in
the
building,
all
three
floors
and
the
roof
and
white
boxing
the
interior,
which
anybody's
familiar
with
development.
C
C
The,
Architects
and
Engineers
tell
me
that
the
corridor
walls
or
the
load
bearing
walls
in
the
center
and
virtually
everything
else
could
be
pulled
out.
As
we
know,
there
are
Holes
in
the
Floor
holes
in
the
ceiling
that
level
of
project
would
involve
first
putting
in
the
diaphragms
but
putting
in
flooring
closing
up
the
ceiling
and
then,
as
white
boxing
implies,
painting
it
all
white
that
would,
as
far
as
limiting
risk
a
developer
could
come
in
and
go
all
these
things.
I'm
afraid
of
that
I
would
have
to
do
that.
I'm,
not
sure.
C
What's
here
have
already
been
done
to
do
the
basic
level
stabilization,
the
idea
being
there
potentially,
you
know,
making
it
more
attractive,
adding
to
the
potential
purchase
price,
that's
not
to
say
that
we
will
do
all
of
those
things.
It
is
an
option
and,
as
I
mentioned
during
the
the
work
session,
there
will
be
some.
You
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
organizational
interest
in
the
future
of
that
building
and
its
salvation.
It
may
end
up
being
a
partnership
where
there's
some
fundraising
to
say.
C
B
C
C
Yes,
sir
I
mean
of
the
materials
in
that
building.
I
I
think
that
that
floor
in
the
lobby
is
probably
the
most
significant
piece
in
that
hotel,
I,
don't
know
McDonald,
you
know
more
than
I
do
but
I
think
that's
one
real
asset
that.
A
E
F
B
A
F
If
I
may
be
I
think
the
board
should
keep
his
options
open
on
what
else
to
require
and
if,
for
some
reason
there
is
a
lack
of
responsiveness
in
the
board,
could
take
whatever
accident
deemed
appropriate
to
get
the
results
that
it
wants
to
have.
A
A
F
C
And
just
for
a
scheduling
note,
you
know
I've
been
taking
these
questions.
I
will
not
be
here
on
the
fourth,
so
if
we
do
need
to
schedule
it
we'd
have
to
do
it
some
other
time.
A
Thank
you
no
we'll
see
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak,
then,
with
this
proposal
for
maintenance,
immediate
maintenance
on
the
hotel,
I
guess,
since
we've
heard
the
discussion
about
the
stabilization
plan,
that
would
be
that's
not
part
of
our
vote
tonight.
But
if
we're
welcome
to
speak,
some
would
like
to
speak
you,
yes,
thank
you
I,
believe
we
need
your
name
officially,
although
yes.
G
Ronaldinhi
638
Magnolia
again
I
would
like
to
ask
for
I
think
the
fourth
or
fifth
time
that
you
open
an
investigation
for
demolition
by
neglect
of
the
hotel,
because
I
think
you're
required
to
buy
the
statutes,
I
think
you're
breaking
the
law.
If
you
don't
or
violating
the
law.
Let's
say
a
citizen
has
made
a
responsible,
meaningful.
G
Written
submission
saying
there
is
demolition
by
neglect
going
on
at
the
hotel,
I
believe
when
you
read
the
statutes,
it's
clear
as
day
that
you
are
required
to
make
a
determination
on
that
and
in
order
to
make
a
determination,
you
have
to
start
an
investigation
and
I
admire
everything,
that's
being
done,
but
it's
for
no
point.
You
have
no
process.
G
It's
unclear.
There
is
nothing
in
your
statutes
about
a
maintenance
plan.
You've
been
pursuing
a
maintenance
plan
for
three
months,
but
there's
nothing
that
authorizes
you
to
do
that.
You
wrote
a
maintenance
plan.
That's
not
your
responsibility,
that's
really
the
city's
responsibility,
so
your
job
is
to
make
a
determination
of
demolition
by
neglect.
I.
Think
it's
pretty
clear.
If
you
look
at
what
the
criteria
are
for
demolition
by
neglect
that
it's
happened,
I
think
it
had
happened
in
1980
I
mean
in
2020.
G
G
You
should
correct
it
and
you
should
start
a
process
that
people
can
understand
and
when
I
read
the
statutes,
it
goes
yeah
they're
following
the
statutes,
that's
great
and
I-
think
everybody
would
be
confident
by
that.
You
can
do
exactly
what
you've
been
saying.
You
can
be
more
lenient,
give
people
time
if
they're,
cooperating
and
they're
collaborating.
G
But
citizen
comes
up
here
and
one
of
the
windows
is,
you
know
crooked
and
you
can
go
after
them,
but
demolition
by
neglect
and
you
can
sick
the
zoning
official
on
them
and
here's
a
city-owned
property
that
you're
not
even
starting
the
process.
You
haven't
started
the
process
of
determining
demolition
by
neglect.
Yet.
A
G
A
G
Simple
case
I
read
the
statute.
The
statute
says
you
are
not
allowed
to
allow
demolition
by
neglect
to
occur.
That
is,
one
of
your
duties
is
to
not
allow
demolition
by
neglect
to
occur.
You
are
allowing
it.
You
haven't
even
made
a
determination,
yet
whether
this
building
is
subject
to
demolition
by
neglect,
I
can
go.
Look
at
it
with
my
naked
eyes
and
say
it
is
it
meets
those
criteria
read
the
statute.
It
has
four
or
five
lines.
It's
not
complicated.
If
it
meets
those
criteria,
there
is
demolition
by
neglect.
G
G
A
Just
got
louder
in
the
microphone
shouting
and-
and
we
don't
do
that
down
here
so
so,
I
think,
let's,
let's
we're
listening
to
you
I
know
you're
concerned
about
it.
We're
trying
to
take
steps
quote
me
a
statute.
G
A
A
G
E
Yeah
I
think
thank
you.
Can
I
have
a
question.
Mr
Lewis,
you
know
you,
you
said
we
should
open
an
investigation
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
why
we
would
want
to
do
that.
I
feel
like
we
have.
E
G
I,
you
start
by
the
fact
you
are
a
quasi-judicial
body
right.
You
have
the
right
to
take
away
people's
property
rights,
so
in
order
and
that's
a
very
dangerous
thing
to
do-
to
interfere
with
people's
property
right.
So
to
do
that,
you
have
to
make
sure
you
follow
a
process
that
is
consistent,
you
know,
is
thorough,
is
balanced.
It's
not
biased
in
many
ways,
Etc
citizen
makes
a
claim
that
there
appears
to
be
demolition
by
neglect.
G
If
you
read
the
statute,
it
doesn't
tell
you
what
to
do.
Unfortunately,
it's
not
worded
that
way,
but
it
says
you're
not
allowed
to
let
it
happen
right
and
it
does
give
you
the
power
to
start
an
investigation
and
it
uses
the
word
determination
if
the
board
determines
that.
So
I
think
you
have
to
determine
at
some
point
whether
demolition
by
neglect
is
occurring
or
not,
and.
G
While
but
you
didn't,
there
was
no
motion
to
start
that
in
in
a
public
meeting,
the
public
literally
legally
doesn't
know
that
you've
been
doing
this
stuff
without
a
process
now
you're
supposed
to
act
like
a
court,
you
know
in
a
court,
you
can't
say:
oh,
he
did
this.
No,
you
have
to
introduce
the
record.
It's
tedious,
you
go!
You
build
it
up,
so
that
it's
on
there
it's
in
writing.
Etc!
You
have
to
follow
those.
A
Things
every
time
we've
we've
implemented
demolition
by
neglect,
and
it's
been
about
three
times,
I
believe
it's.
When
we
had
a
non-responsive
owner
and
a
building
getting
ready
to
close
laps,
they
did
not,
they
would
not
respond.
We
would
send
them
letters,
we
would,
you
know,
go
visit
them
and
no
response,
and
each
time
we
we
began
the
clock
to
find
them.
So
the
the
city
or
whoever
is
owning.
The
hotel
right
now
is
responding
they've
committed
to
doing.
If
they
don't
do
it.
We
start
demolition
by
neglect.
I'm,
sorry,.
G
F
Ahead,
if,
if
I
may,
since
we're
getting
into
the
legal
issue
and
your
time's
up,
sir,
thank
you
the
process
that
you're
following
is
appropriate.
F
We
learned
information
tonight,
I
think
it's
relevant
to
demolition
by
neglect
which
the
owner
or
future
owner
has
provided
and
that's
information.
You
can
take
into
effect
into
consideration,
and
you
know
the
and
then
the
final
determination,
if
it
ever
gets
to
that
point
of
demolition
by
neglect,
is
something
that
you
decide
based
on
your
judgment
and
your
discretion
based
on
a
record,
and
we
have
been
gathering
information.
F
You
have
the
discretion
of
judgment
to
make
that
determination
when
it's
appropriate,
so
I
think
the
process
we're
following
is
appropriate.
There
could
be
other
options
and
all
may
not
agree
with
it.
But
the
objective
in
the
end
is
to
fix
the
issue
and
I
think
you
do
have
discretion
to
to
determine
how
best
to
get
there,
even
though
it
may
not
satisfy
the
concerns
of
some
people.
A
A
All
right,
okay,
right
and
we're
voting
on
a
plan
to
make
repairs
and
stabilize
portions
of
the
building
that
that
are
at
risk.
The
roof
leaks
are
one
that
have
gotten
considerably
worse
and
almost
require
full-time
supervision.
So,
at
any
rate,
any
other
members
of
the
audience
would
like
to
speak
here.
E
Like
to
make
a
motion,
Mr
chairman
I'd,
like
to
move
that.
F
E
Been
well
let
me
just
State,
like
this
I'd
like
to
move
in
regards
to
the
hotel
Aiken
property
that
that
we
allow
the
city
the
90
days.
That
they've
requested,
however,
to
encourage
the
city
to
act
faster
than
90
days
to
affect
the
temporary
repair
to
the
hole
in
the
proof
of
at
least
a
10
by
12
area,
and
to
replace
all
the
broken
or
damaged
or
missing
Windows.
E
We
would
also
like,
and
all
also
part
of
the
motion,
I'd
like
to
request
the
city
go
ahead
and
engage
the
preservation
architect
in
order
to
obtain
some
additional
information
about
cleaning
and
maintenance
and
the
proper
way
to
do
that
and
and
also
determine
if,
if
we
can
remove
the
the
Portico
area
and
the
awnings
and
in
the
places
around
the
building
that
are
that
are
unsightly,
you
know
and
and
see
what
their
advice
is
on
doing
that.
H
E
Later
than
the
January,
oh
with
next
steps,
June
I'm,
sorry,
thank
you.
This
is
June
6.
That
weed
was
way
too
far,
June
6
meeting,
which
is
right
after
the
90-day
period,
with
with
what
your
next
steps
are,
because
we
don't
view
this
as
a
completion.
We
blew
this.
We
review
this
as
a
is
a
a
process.
E
Okay,
and
so
we
want
to
know
what
what
the
Architects
and
are
recommending
for
the
next
process,
and
that
that
all
this,
these
motions
be
legally
binding
on
the
city
in
terms
of
holding
them
responsible
to
to
to
live
up
to
this.
What
we're
voting
on
tonight
right
and.
B
A
H
E
H
E
Work
faster
than
that,
and-
and
so
that
was
the
end
of
my
motion
and
I'd
like
to
discuss
it
a
little
bit.
Okay,
well
I'll!
Second,
so
we
can
discuss
it.
E
Okay,
and
so
you
know
the
reason
I'm
making
this
motion
here
tonight
is
the
fact
that
that
the
architect
that
spoke
with
us
in
the
work
session,
Mr
Tate,
led
me
to
believe
that,
although
the
water
infiltration
is
a
problem
and
the
Cosmetic
things
are
a
problem
that
there
are
not
critical,
that
if
we
don't
do
something
within
a
week
or
two
we're
going
to
have
a
devastating
result,
building
is
basically
sound
and
in
that
we
have
time
to
work
through
this,
and
so
I
I
think
that
we
have.
E
We
owe
it
to
the
community
to
try
to
get
the
building
cleaned
up
and
presentable.
You
know
for
the
for
the
whole
Community,
not
just
the
adjacent
Property
Owners
in
a
safe
and
secure
machine
manner,
where
things
aren't
falling
off
the
building
and
injuring
people,
but
that
for
the
building
itself,
I
feel
like
we
have.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
We've
had
a
professional
to
go
in
and
look
at
it
and
said
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
let's
take
a
deliberate
approach
to
it
for
the
major
work
right.
C
I
can't
say
that
about
any
building,
it
is
secure
as
we
can
make
it.
It
is.
E
C
Guarantee
that
it's
the
most
recent
addition
to
the
alarm
system
was
an
audible
siren
that
will
make
your
brain
leak
out
of
your
ears.
If
you
intrude
into
that
building,
so
the
there
hasn't
been
an
intrusion
since
that
went
in.
B
C
And,
and
to
the
the
point
you
know:
I
I
see
the
90
days
as
a
maximum
okay
not
to
exceed,
but
any
of
this,
if
I
can
accomplish
it
tomorrow,
I
will.
B
C
A
Good,
we
talked
about
purely
cosmetic
things
like
removing
the
awning
and
and
the
the
porch
thing
is.
That
is
that.
Are
you,
including
that
in
here,
because.
E
E
Included
in
here
is
that
we
would
get
a
recommendation
from
the
right,
the
preservation
architect
this
to
to
what's
appropriate
to
do
and
if
we
can
get
that
recommendation
sooner
well.
C
I
intend
and
I
don't
know
about
your
next
meeting,
but
I
I
do
I,
haven't
scheduled
the
visit
from
the
architect
yet,
but
as
soon
as
we
can
get
that
done,
yes,
I
I
would
feel
much
more
comfortable
having
a
formal
vote
from
the
drb.
Regarding
those
exterior
appearance
changes
right,
so
I
will
bring
that
back
to
you
as
quickly
as
I.
E
C
F
F
Point
of
clarification,
the
90
days
is
that
to
also
affect
the
cleaning
and
and
or
removal
of
portico
and
awnings
and
cleaning
of
the
building
within
90
days.
Well,
the
not
just
the
opinion
of
the
expert,
but
the
actual
accomplishment
of
it.
If
the
expert
approves
of
it.
F
E
Thank
you,
you
know,
but
I
would
like
to
have
that
recommendation
sooner
and
I
think
Katie
alluded
to
that.
But
the
reason
I
said
90
days
was
because
that
was
what
Tim
was
willing
to
commit
to.
Okay.
A
And
you
have
a
couple
more
meetings
in
between
now
and
May
31st,
but
you
can
come
back
and
say:
I'd
like
to
remove
the
all
names.
Are
we
vote
on
adding
awnings
I?
Guess
we
vote
on
we're
moving.
B
F
Is
as
long
as
as
it's
determined
that
it's
not
subject
to
certificate
of
appropriately
or
other
requirements
like
Building,
Inspections,.
D
B
Think
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
positive
move
forward
for
the
community
to
see
that
something's
going
on
yes
and
it's
cleaned
up
and
if
it
could
do
it
before
Masters.
That
would
be.
H
F
Think
if
I
think
we're
going
to
need
to
amend
the
motion
to
make
it
clear
if
somebody
would
do
that,
but
I
think
that
any
it
would
be
that
any
alterations
of
the
exterior
of
the
hotel
or
the
property
that
are
part
of
this
plan
will
be
subject
to
the
applicable
provisions
of
the
the
preservation
ordinance
in
the
related.
F
I
understand
so,
if
maybe
we
just
put
that
on
the
record
here,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
part
of
the
motion
that
we
put
on
the
record
here
that
anything
because
it
would
apply
anyway,
as
you
point
out,
Mr
Lott,
that
the
those
Provisions
would
apply
to
any
change,
no
matter
who's,
making
them
to
the
exterior
of
a
property
in
this
location.
In
this
area,.
A
E
F
A
A
Okay,
I
think
that
concludes
our
business
for
tonight,
and
we
thank
you
all
for
your
participation
and
we'll
look
forward
to
seeing
you
at
the
next
meeting
a
couple
weeks.
I
guess,
foreign.