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From YouTube: City Of Aiken Planning Commission May15, 2018
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This
is
a
request
for
city
services
by
j
m
properties,
for
the
properties
that
they're
developing
they're
on
chucker
creek,
road
88
town
homes.
As
we
understand
it,
are
you
familiar
with
the
conditions
of
approval
that
the
planning
department
has
recommended?
Yes,
sir,
I
am
and
you
those
are
okay
with
you.
Yes,
okay,.
A
H
Okay,
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
ben
harm.
I
brought
my
son
wells
and
my
daughter
allie
in
the
back.
We
live
in
plantation
south
in
the
city
which
is
at
right,
past
chucker,
creek
elementary
school
down
further
down
chucker
creek
road.
I'm
sure
you
all
are
familiar
that
chucker
creek
road
has
no
other
access
out
to
whiskey
road
other
than
that
one
traffic
light
as
you're
also
aware.
H
The
dollar
general
was
just
built
there
a
couple
months
ago,
so
we've
seen
an
increase
in
volume
in
cars
in
that
area.
So
a
little
history
about
me,
I
retired,
from
public
safety.
I've
got
two
kids
that
attend
chucker
creek
elementary
school,
and
I
also
had
the
fortune
of
volunteering
to
help
with
that
car
line.
You
remember
putting
a
snake
in
a
few
years
ago,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
traffic
and
traffic
patterns
on
that
road.
H
I've
got
some
concerns
that
I've
discussed
with
several
of
my
neighbors
first,
the
egress
whiskey
road.
I
understand
that
a
stub
would
be
required
under
the
approval,
but
my
bigger
concern.
If
you
look
at
the
aerial
map
on
the
back
page
of
this,
you
see
where
the
site
is
this
parcel
if
I'll
show
it
on
over
here
this
parcel
right.
I
G
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H
That's
an
awful
lot
in
that
one
short
little
area
on
that
road.
The
road
is
already
not
in
the
best
of
conditions,
and
so
another
question
I
would
have
is:
would
there
be
any
road
improvements
that
would
go
into
effect
with
this
development
we
have.
I
also
have
some
concerns
from
my
previous
background.
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She
was
very,
very
helpful,
but
that
stub
wouldn't
be
required
to
go
in
until
the
front
part
of
that
would
be
developed.
Well,
that
could
take
an
additional
year
year
and
a
half,
and
the
larger
concern
is,
if
there's
a
collision
at
the
entrance
either
to
dollar
general
or
to
this
neighborhood
trucker
creek
road
would
be
blocked
and
there
would
be
no
access
to
any
homes
either
in
the
ridge,
trucker
creek
road
or
further
down
off
of
oak
brook
in
that
area.
So
those
are
some
concerns.
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That's
I
mean
that's
that's
reasonable,
to
raise
the
issue,
but
you
know
they
they
are
in
compliance.
We
have
in
the
past,
had
a
few
issues
here
with
the
and
you're
familiar
with
the
requirements
for
the
for
the
for
the
big
trucks
and
all
as
as
is
your
buddy
over
here,
mr
besley.
I'm
sure
you
know
yes,
so
he
keeps
us
up
with
all
those
movements
and
those
requirements.
We
have
had
a
couple
of
times
where
we
have
rejected
requests
from
people
because
of
that
very
issue.
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H
Run
an
egress
right
up
here
right
to
that
curb
cut,
sarah's,
probably
wouldn't
object,
because
they
get
all
that
additional
traffic
coming
right
by
their
peach
stand,
but
that
would
be
an
additional
way
for
them
to
go
out.
Then.
If
something
did
happen
here-
and
this
was
blocked,
you
could
exit
this
way.
H
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
have
much
traffic
going
in
that
way,
because
that
means
you
have
to
turn
left
a
left
turn
across
whiskey
road
traffic,
and
if
you
tried
to
do
that
at
five
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
it's
just
not
happening,
so
everybody
will
still
go
to
light
in
addition,
you're
not
going
to
want
to
cut
through
and
go
out
that
way
from
trucker
creek
road
you're
going
to
go
up
to
the
light,
because
it's
a
safer
way
to
go.
That's
the
same
reason
why
they
they
want
the
egress
onto
chuckle.
H
A
Well,
you're
talking
about
a
future
you're
talking
about
using
the
curb
cut.
That's
already,
there's
that
curb
cut
is
probably
for
more
than
just
sarah's,
there's,
probably
enough
there.
To
put
something
I
mean
I
don't
know,
that's
a
highway
department
issue
more
than
us,
but
maybe
you
know
something
you
know
anything
about
that.
Curb
cutting.
I
don't
know
whiskey.
I
don't.
I.
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I
also
know,
mr
hunter,
if
it's
not
in
the
plans
to
begin
with,
it
probably
won't
end
up
in
the
plans
to
end
with.
So
I
guess
my
again,
that's
my
concern,
even
if
they
leave
open,
because,
according
to
the
plans
that
they
have
in
this
packet-
and
I
know
there
will
obviously
have
to
be
some
adjustments
to
it,
but
they
will
have
a
couple
of
traffic
circles
even
if
they
could
have
the
egress
going
out
from
the.
H
D
While
they
might
only
be
requesting
city
services,
I
know
the
additional
traffic
that's
generated
by
this
will
affect
people
that
live
in
the
city
of
aitkin,
a
school,
that's
in
the
city
of
vatican
and
the
safety
of
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
vacant.
So
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
the
grand
picture,
even
though
they
might
not
ever
annex
in
the
property.
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Not
in
the
city
we
can
deal
with
this
parcel,
we
can
refuse.
We
can.
We
have
a
couple
options.
We
could
refuse
city
services,
we
could
put
a
another
stub
out,
but
but
I
and
I
don't-
I
I
see
your-
is
I
see
your
problem.
I
mean
this
is
a
big
parcel
of
land
with
no
particular
way
to
get
out.
I
mean
it's
not
landlocked
because
it
sits
on
chucker,
creek
road,
so
they're,
obviously
having
access
on
chucker
creek
road
question
is:
are
they
going
to
have
another
access
back
somewhere
else?
D
Only
other
thing
that
I
think
maybe
we
have
missed
is
that,
even
though
this
might
not
be
in
the
city,
it
will
receive
city
services,
including
fire
protection,
so
we're
making
a
decision
that
would
potentially,
because
that's
all
actually
they're
already
in
fire.
That
would
be
the
city
of
atkins
fire.
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In
their
infinite
wisdom,
our
school
board
just
recently
reduced
the
future
traffic
load
on
chuckle
creek.
A
lot
of
the
future
development
that's
going
out.
There
are
now
going
to
other
parts
of
the
city
and
other
schools.
Everybody
in
the
area
didn't
agree
with
that,
of
course,
but
the
school
board
did
do
it
and
it
was
accepted.
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J
Townhouses
as
they
are
designed,
are
for
single
mothers,
retirees
which
are
single
and
have
fewer
children
in
the
in
the
system
which
makes
less
trips
out
this
project
does
meet.
I
think
most
of
your
requirements
are
all
your
requirements
that
you
have
stated
and
asked
for.
We
hope,
you'll
consider
granting
city
services.
J
The
developer
would,
of
course,
and
has
agreed
when
it
becomes
contiguous.
They
will
become
part
of
the
city
and
I
think,
as
as
you
require,
they
already
have
to
comply
with
city
ordinances
as
far
as
landscaping
and
things
so
they're
preparing
to
annex
because-
and
I
would
sure
they
would
at
this
point
since
outside
the
city-
they
do
pay
more
for
city,
water
and
sewer,
which
goes
into
the
city
farms.
J
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J
D
I'm
just
thinking,
and
I'm
just
an
ignorant
old
man,
I'm
just
thinking
that
that
would
be
a
high
priority
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
Traffic
number
one
we
did
talk
about
in
the
work
session
about
susan
brought
up
a
comment
about
what
people
cut
through
the
development.
You
know
say
going
to
srs
in
the
morning
coming
out
of
chuckle
creek
road
say:
well,
here's
a
quick
way
for
me
to
cut
through.
D
If
that
road
was
there,
you
know,
would
there
be
the
ability
to
block
that
or
have
a
gate
access
gate,
so
that
wouldn't
happen
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I'm
more
worried
about
the
traffic
and
that's
why
I'm
worried
about?
Where
is
this
stub
out
road
and
where
is
it
going
to
go?
Is
it
just
a
public
safety.
D
Right,
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
cart
before
the
horse
comes,
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
the
theoretical
cart
before
the
horse.
I
would
I'm
kind
of
having
to
question
whether
or
not
I
could
support
that
if,
in
fact,
the
access
road
wasn't
going
to
whiskey
road
because
I
don't
know
where
else
it
would
go-
I
mean
from
the
diagram
here.
Otherwise
I
would
think
that
there
would
be
a
plan
into
the
other
neighborhood
is
it
you
know
out
to
whiskey
road,
because
I
mean
I
just
don't
unders,
I
don't
know.
D
B
J
And
it's
then
installed
it's
about
now
required
to
an
undeveloped,
commercial
piece
and
and
economics
are
going
to
drive
the
development
of
that
of
that
commercial
piece.
We
may
have
the
greatest
business
in
the
world
that
needs
to
be
27
feet
more
to
the
left
than
than
to
the
right
right
and
so
future
the
stub
out
would
be
if,
if,
if
it's
required-
and
if
it's
done
it
would
be
in
phase
two,
I
mean
there's
no,
there's
nothing
up
there
yet
to
be
developed
right
and,
of
course,
it's
a
different
two
different
property
owners.
J
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D
I'm
just
worried
about
that
property
that
you
all
explained
to
me
is
commercial,
that
front's
whiskey
road.
All
of
a
sudden.
We
get
somebody
that
comes
in
here
and
buys
that
whole
strip
of
land
and
it's
all
commercial
and
now
there's
no
room
for
a
road
or
a
pig
path
or
anything
else
to
get
back
out
to
whiskey
road
because
somebody's
put
a
shopping
mall
in
there
or
a
row
of
stores.
That's
my
only
concern
because
then,
where
is
it
going
to
go?
Is
it
going
to
is
this
potential
road
connecting
to
the
next
neighborhood?
D
J
Behind
it,
of
course,
that
25
acres
that's
being
discussed
is
a
total
different
owner
and
a
total
different
entity,
and
there's
been
discussions
at
times
that
that
can't
be
developed
because
of
some
reasons
or
restrictions.
But
I'm
not
really
customer
and
that
would
have
to
be
totally
considered
when
it's
developed
is.
Will
you
allow,
because
of
traffic.
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A
Jerry
running
down
all
right,
you
you're
going
south
on
whiskey
road,
you
take
a
ride
on
chucker,
creek
and
right
there
on
the
corner.
Is
the
dollar
general?
Yes,
all
right,
then,
then,
going
down
whiskey
road
from
the
dollar
general
is.
That
is,
is
that
the
piece
you're
talking
about
the
there's
no
cut
through
there
to
whiskey
road?
I
mean
that
property
doesn't
have
access
to
whiskey
road
at
this
point
either.
Do
they.
A
A
J
A
E
Would
be
sorry
so
if
and
when
that
the
the?
What
we're
calling
we'll
call
it
the
whiskey
road,
frontage,
undeveloped
property.
At
this
point,
if
and
when
that
were
to
want
to
be
developed,
it
would
also
have
to
come
before
this
board
for
city
services
and
the
city
council.
And
so
you
would
have
this
kind
of
same
level
of
scrutiny
over
what
went
there
with
access
a
stub
out
from
this
site
to
that
site
would
require
that
that
site
coordinate
with
wherever
that
would
occur.
E
A
Yeah,
I
mean-
and
I
think
that
is
that
is
to
my
the
way
I
see
this
is
the
maximum
we
can
do
with
regard
to
a
stub
out.
We
can't
we
can't
make
them
put
a
stub
out
to
a
piece
of
property.
They
don't
even
own.
I
mean,
and
the
only
reason
we
can
stub
this
out
is
because
it's
it's
owned
by
the
same
owner
as
this
one
right
all
right.
That's.
A
F
G
A
A
Can
you
recommend
it?
We
can
require
it.
We
can
require
it
connect
to
the
piece
of
property,
but
we
can't
require
that
the
piece
of
property
we
don't
know
where
their
connection
is
going
to
be
to
whiskey,
okay,
but
we
know
one
place
is
going
to
be
down
there
opposite
that
south
meadows,
it's
going
to
be,
there
could
be
another
one.
There
could
be
another
connection
to
whiskey.
Besides
that,
one
from
what
mr
waters
has
said.
G
F
A
A
D
D
D
The
property
would
only
have
one
entrance
in
egress
at
this
point
and
that
it
is
uncertain
as
to
whether
or
not
they'd
ever
be
able
to
obtain
egress
off
the
back
of
that
property
out
to
whiskey
road.
Nor
was
the
applicant
able
to
provide
me
an
answer
or
provide
the
commission
an
answer
as
to
where
that
potentially
could
go
to.
A
A
C
What
we
can
do
is
just
trust
and
hope
that
the
developers
will
keep
in
mind
what
they
said
and
what
they
said
that
they
would
consider
that
they
realize
it's
a
problem
and,
if
he's
willing
to
look
at
it
and
say
well,
you
know.
Maybe
we
will
flip
that
cul-de-sac
and
put
a
couple
of
less
units
down
there.
B
E
Really
all
we
can
do
okay.
That
actually,
I
said,
mr
chairman,
I
think
this
might
be
getting
what
you
were
talking
about
too.
Are
you
talking
about
the
the
commissioner,
the
fact
that
it
might
be
vague
as
to
which
undeveloped
parcel
the
stub
out
would
be
going
to
whether
it
be
the
whiskey
roadside
or
the
other
adjacent.
A
B
A
B
D
D
They're
going
to
have
to
come
out
on
the
chucker
creek
road
there's
no
way.
I
can
see
that
entrance
the
traffic
backing
up
now
mind
you.
The
school
is
only
about
two
hours
worth
of
traffic
five
days
a
week.
You
know
I
understand
that,
but
it's
look
at
the
time
that
that
is
in
the
morning
specifically
and
the
amount
of
traffic
that's
going
to
be
there
in
one
entrance,
one
egress.
C
So
it's
yes,
it's
a
it's
a
traffic
nightmare,
but
because
this
is
reduced
traffic
I
don't
feel
that
they're
going
to
be
fake
and
then
at
the
time
when
the
people
in
the
I
would
think.
If
I
lived
in
that
town
home,
I
would
know
when
to
leave
and
go
shopping
and
when
not
to
leave
and
go
shopping.
So
I
would
know
not
to
leave
my
house
between
1
30
p.m
and
three
o'clock,
because
I
would
know.
C
B
B
C
A
A
A
Yeah,
I
mean
look,
I
I
think
I
I
think
it's
a
we
can.
We
can
discuss
it,
it's
it's
not
an
ideal
situation.
Traffic
is
a
problem.
If
you
think
traffic
is
a
problem
here
right
over
to
evans,
traffic
is
a
problem
where
growth
occurs.
Traffic
is
a
problem,
it
is
and
I,
but
I
think
you
you
know,
we
need
to
be
real
careful
before
we
totally
throw
out
a
a
proposed
subdivision
based
on
perceived
traffic
issues.
This.
D
Would
have
made
it
a
lot
easier
for
me
to
make
a
decision
if
the
applicant
had
owned
that
one
little
tenth
of
an
acre
where
he
could
have
a
road
going
out
of
the
you
know
the
whiskey
road
or
if
he
had
some
kind
of
agreement
with
the
owner,
that
they
would
allow
that.
You
know
that
way,
even
in
if
it
was
commercial,
we
have
lots
of
properties
that
go
from
residential
into
commercial
and
they
use
their
egress
all
the
time.
So.
C
C
C
A
Whether
the
hoa
would
be
interested
in
incurring
that
additional
expense,
I
don't
know
my
experience
with
hoas.
Is
you
better
if
you're
going
to
get
money
from
them?
You
better
put
it
in
there
up
front
and
you
better
collect
100
a
month
from
every
one
of
them
or
you're,
going
to
have
an
awful
hard
time
raising
that
money
when
it
comes
time
to
put
that
gate
in,
are
we
going.