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B
A
A
B
A
Approval
second,
second,
all
in
favor
hand
posed
okay,
annexation
request
is
approved;
second
application
number
19,
two
zero
zero
one;
seven
and
annexation
request
at
two
one:
one:
eight
Huron
Drive
by
Barbara
and
Claire
hickeys
jr..
Anybody
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
that
annexation,
request:
opposition,
okay,.
C
A
A
second
second,
second,
okay,
all
in
favor
Johanns.
Suppose,
item
is
approved
for
to
be
forwarded
to
the
City
Council,
okay,
application,
C
number
C
application
number
nineteen
day,
six,
zero,
zero,
zero.
Eight
says
a
rezoning
request
at
131,
Silver
Bluff
Road
by
Jennifer
stellar
D
body
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
request
in
favor
of
miss
teller.
A
D
So
the
goal
in
my
opening
this
is
to
get
brown
bags
and
just
bring
home
cooked
meals
back
to
the
table.
I
feel
like
we're
all
so
busy,
and
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
rush
and
get
home
and
worry
about
dinner.
So
I've
been
coming
up
with
Kido,
which
has
been
growing
more
popular
in
the
area
and
just.
E
D
A
low
carb
diet,
low
carb
high
protein,
so
we
make
our
own
bread
and
I
do
a
lot
of
protein
based
casseroles
and
have
them
prepared
with
heating
instructions.
All
you
have
to
do
is
stop
by
and
pick
them
up.
We
also
offer
lunchboxes,
so
you
can
stop
in
and
have
a
sandwich,
and
we
just
have
simple
hours,
11:00
to
2:00
for
lunch
and
then
4
to
6
at
night
for
pickup
for
dinner.
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D
A
D
D
G
D
B
D
D
D
D
D
H
Miss
mr.
chairman,
in
regards
to
application,
1
9
6
0
0
0
8
for
the
rezoning
request
of
tax
parcel
number
1
0
6
1
2
0
6
0
0
4
from
the
Curtin
zoning
limited
professional,
proposed
zoning
limited
business
I.
Ask
that
we
moved
this
to
City.
Council
based
on
the
facts
is
sufficient.
With
our
comprehensive
plan.
B
A
Many
other
problems.
All
right.
Application
number
des
won:
8-1
zero,
one,
zero,
zero,
two
historic
overlay
district
amendment
request:
this
is
the
site
of
the
old
County
Hospital
and
applicants
are
Martin
Buckley
and
Lucy.
Lucy
Knowles
speak
speakers
on
behalf
mr.
Buckley
are
miss
Knowles
or
have
y'all
are.
Do
it.
A
I
No
limit
1141
to
not
Road
in
the
city
of
Aiken
and
I
hope,
you'll.
Forgive
me,
but
I'm
going
to
go
into
the
whole
history
of
this
in
some
detail
to
maybe
help
you
understand
why
we're
here
and
how
we
got
here.
So
my
husband
and
I
are
part
of
a
kind
of
an
ad-hoc
group
that
got
together
to
try
to
preserve
the
old
Aiken
Hospital
and
through
the
efforts
of
some
of
our
members,
including
this
drumming
who's.
I
Here
today,
we
got
over
700
signatures
supporting
reuse
of
the
hospital,
and
so
that
persuaded
County
Council
to
agree
to
sell
the
hospital
on
the
condition
that
the
old
hospital
building
be
preserved
and
so
up
until
the
third
and
last
reading
it
looked
like
Brian
Halterman
from
Augusta
Georgia,
who
is
a
an
experienced
historic
renovation
person?
That's
what
he
doesn't.
A
Gustin
has
done
a
lot
of
very
successful
historic
renovation
in
Augusta.
I
I
And
so
we
had
gone
over
to
talk
to
him
and
he
said
that
it's
key
to
the
historic
renovation
of
this
property,
to
get
the
historic
tax
credits,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
the
the
property
either
has
to
be
listed
on
the
National
Register
or
a
contributing
member
of
a
district.
And
so
it
seemed
that
the
easiest
and
quickest
way
to
get
this
done
would
be
to
expand.
The
district
to
include
the
hospital
in
the
hospital
clearly
is
historic
and
meets
the
criteria.
I
I
Heard
that
that
there
may
be
somebody
who's
interested,
but
I
haven't
actually
been
in
touch
with
him
to
find
out
if
he
is,
but
I
actually
did
speak
to
him.
You
know
recently
and
I
have
no
reason
to
believe
he
isn't
interested.
B
B
A
I
J
Chairman,
you
know
we
talked
about
the
low-income
housing
tax
credits.
Essentially
they
function
very.
Similarly,
in
that
it
provides
a
dollar-for-dollar
reduction
in
tax
liability
for
a
partner
in
that.
So
sometimes
that's
somebody
with
equity,
putting
money
into
the
project
to
make
it
feasible
to
then
be
able
to
claim
the
credit.
Sometimes
the
organization
doing
the
rehab
themselves,
help
them
with
their
I
guess
the
long-term,
more
long-term
or
immediate
annual
financing
of
it
by
reducing
their
liability.
So
there's
a
couple
different
ways
that
that
works,
but
it's
the
credits
work
very.
Similarly,
in
that
manner,.
A
A
I
I
I
L
Throat
and
Aiken
I
think
Lucy
covered
it
quite
well.
I
have
very
little
to
add
other
than
the
fact
that
this
is
a
these
are
historic
properties,
the
nurses,
home
and
the
hospital
itself,
and
keeping
them
using
them
profitably
would
be
the
best
thing
that
we
could
do
we're
talking
about
the
west
entrance
to
ache,
and
it's
it's
a
significant
spot
there
it
would
be
to
do
this
properly
would
be,
would
be
the
best
thing
that
could
happen
to
not
just
pave
over
the
history
and
so
forth.
L
There
are
in
your
handout,
you
have
a
bit
about
the
history
and
it's
significant,
and
there
is
a
letter
in
there
from
mr.
Chandler
at
the
South
Carolina
archives
office.
Who
basically
says
this
is
all
for
National
Register,
so
forth,
I'm,
sorry
I've
got
to
open
to
it,
but
I
can't
tell
you
what
page
it
is
because
pages
aren't
numbered,
I
thought
I
read
it,
but
it
it
is
significant
and
it's
worth
worth
trying
to
put
in
a
little
effort
into
using
it
properly
and
I'd,
be
glad
to
try
to
answer
questions.
A
A
couple
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
I
thought
your
your
petition
was
well
done
and
it
was
a
lot
of
information
I
enjoyed,
reading
it
and
enjoyed
looking
back
at
some
of
the
old
leak
and
standard
copies
of
the
old
waking
standards
that
you
have
in
here.
Let
me
ask
you
this:
is
there
asbestos
in
the
building?
You
know
the
answer
to
that
I.
L
L
L
A
L
B
L
L
B
That's
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
about
this
that
if
the
entire
property
is
designated
to
start,
then
they
would
have
to
go
through
a
lot
of
Hoops
to
be
able
to
get
rid
of
the
insignificant,
a
relatively
insignificant
new
wing
that
was
built
much
later
than
the
original
building
and,
quite
frankly,
has
no
little
to
no
aesthetic
value
added
to
the
front
part
of
the
building.
I
love
the
main
building
I
think
it's
one
of
the
most
beautiful
buildings
in
Aiken,
and
it
just
it
reminds
me
of
the
old
Columbia
hospital.
L
L
A
A
It
appears
to
me
it
could
be
renovated,
anything
can
be
renovated,
but
it's
gonna
be
expensive
and
it's
gonna
be
it's
gonna
take
a
and
a
sort
of
developer,
such
as
mr.
Haldeman,
who
is
some
expertise
in
these
areas?
No
question
your
average
developer
is
not
going
to
it's
not
going
to
be
interested
in
it.
So
I've
got
to
balance
out
the
the
value
of
the
designated
as
a
historic
building
versus
the
cost
and
expense,
and
we
don't
have
really
anybody.
A
We
all
have
opinions
as
to
what
it
would
cost
and
whether
it
is
renovated.
There's
no
doubt
in
my
mind
it
is
run
available,
but
at
what
cost
and
it
would
expense
and-
and
that
would
be
you
can
renovate
anything
you
know-
Bill
Gates
could
renovate
anything
he
wants
to
renovate.
But
your
average
developer
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
spend
that
kind
of
time
and
money
and
renovate
it.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I
am
oh
I.
F
He
would
not
undertake
this
if
he
could
not
complete
it.
This
as
simple
as
that
I
think.
The
choice
that
you
have
is
do
you
want
the
building
to
remain
or
do
you
want
to
be
knocked
down
if
you
want
to
be
knocked
down,
there's
no
reason
to
consider
Brian's
doing
this.
If
you
want
him
to
do
it,
it
would
have
to
be
designated
a
historic
district
in
order
for
him
to
take
care
of
all
the
problems
that
you've
very
appropriately
mentioned.
That's
what
we
do.
We
we
manage
the
asbestos.
F
F
A
B
M
Charlotte
Weidman
66,
painting,
Avenue,
president
of
historic
Aiken
foundation.
Last
Thursday
I
delivered
four
boxes:
1800
historic
Aiken
to
her
maps
to
the
chamber
of
commerce
into
the
visitors
center
and
both
of
those
locations
were
ecstatic.
When
I
did
they
say
that
they
were
the
hardest
item
that
they
stocked
to
keep
in
stock.
They
were
the
most
popular
item.
They
have
it's.
What
people
come
to
those
locations
looking
for
historic
egg
areas
or
what
draw
people
to
a
town?
They
are
what
create
the
charm
and
an
akin.
They
are
most
highly
valued
areas.
M
So
I
don't
understand
where
the
idea
of
progressive
loses
something
when
we
say
you
know
we're
just
you
know
going
to
slap
up
something.
Could
progress
not
be
protecting
an
area
so
that
we
have
a
higher
value
and
the
improvements
that
come
historic
areas
draw
people
in
so
by
extending
this?
It
also
keeps
in
touch
with
a
comprehensive
plan
that
the
city
did
and
I
would
hope.
M
That's
what
the
Planning
Commission
is
charged
with
it's
following
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
in
that
comprehensive
plan
it
says
one
of
the
goals
was
to
protect
our
cultural
resources
and
that's
what
the
hospital
and
the
nurse's
building
are.
They
give
a
very
important
reference
to
what
was
happening
in
this
town.
At
that
time
there
was
a
lot
of
development
and
a
lot
of
things
it
turn
of
the
century
that
we
would
not
see
in
a
town
of
this
size,
but
something
more
in
urban
areas.
M
Ie
the
nurse's
building,
you
see
those
in
large
urban
centers,
but
not
in
a
small
town.
So
protection
of
all
of
that
speaks
to
our
history
in
the
people
who
were
here
developing
this
town
so
again
back
to
the
comprehensive
plan
in
your
charge.
Sticking
to
that
comprehensive
plan
planning
for
our
future
and
not
just
taking
these
things
as
they
come
up
to
any
developer.
Does
it
work?
Does
it
not?
Where
does
Aiken
wanna
be,
and
what
do
we
want
to
look
like?
What
is
our
feel
want
to
be?
M
How
do
we
attract
people
and
it's
the
protection
of
these
things,
as
it
says,
in
the
comprehensive
plan
protecting
our
historic
charm
and
our
cultural
resources
and
I?
Think
that's
what
extension
of
the
historic
district
does
improved
property
values
protecting
charm,
protecting
cultural
resources?
This.
B
M
Because
that
a
nurse's
building
is
like
I
said
something
you
would
see
in
urban
areas,
it
was
to
attract
nurses
to
bring
them
in.
They
were
very
poorly
paid,
but
in
exchange
for
their
education,
they
were
offered
a
place
to
live.
So
it
speaks
to
something
that
was
happening
in
turn-of-the-century,
United
States
and
in
many
cities
both
in
the
United
States
in
the
United
Kingdom
front
of
the
century.
Turn
of
the
I'm
sorry
20th.
M
Century
they
were
something
that
was
done.
It
was
well,
it
came
up
popular
in
the
1890s
and
then
progressed
through,
but
in
big
cities,
both
United
States
and
the
United
Kingdom.
They
have
started
placing
these
buildings
on
the
National
Register.
So
there's
no
reason
why
a
conduce,
something
like
that.
The
fact
that
we
have
one
alone
is
pretty
remarkable.
N
My
name
is
Mandy
drumming
I
live
at
412,
Northwest,
Pendleton
Street
in
these
conversations
or
discussion,
I'm
hearing
from
what
I
gather
and
I'm
in
I'm
a
30-year
old
that
new
construction
is
really
so
kind
of
last
year.
That
adaptive
reuse
really
is
the
hot
thing.
Now
it's
what
attracts
young
creatives
that
are
seen
as
what
will
revive
and
stimulate
economic
development,
and
in
this
day
and
age,
with
our
current
economy,
young
Millennials,
especially
are
spending
money
on
experiences.
Not
so
much
retail
so
and
historic.
N
N
The
architecture
and
the
history
of
the
aiken
hospital
site
demonstrates
appeared
in
Aitken
overlooked
by
most
a
time
when
akin
emphasized
traditional
values
and
yet
forward-thinking,
rural,
yet
modern,
while
akin
is
commonly
known
as
the
place
where
the
wealthy
came
during
the
during
the
Gilded
Age
downtown
historic
taken
and
the
akin
hospital
site
as
a
whole
in
their
world
nests
architecture
at
ethos
provide
evidence.
The
formation
of
the
winter
Cohn
Aiken.
O
N
Gilded
Age
in
many
ways,
with
the
culmination
of
the
Industrial
Revolution,
which
occurred
between
1861
and
1900,
yet
the
Aiken
winter
connie
thrived
between
1880
and
1941.
The
same
time,
the
American,
Arts
and
Crafts
movement
took
root
as
a
movement
against
the
ill
effects
of
urbanization,
industrialization
materialism
and
gender
race
and
class
inequalities,
presumably
created
by
the
Industrial
Revolution,
compared
to
the
Gilded
Age
architecture
exemplified
by
mansions,
lavish
machine-made
ornament
to
manicured
lawns,
most
buildings
and
historic.
A
can
demonstrate
modesty,
craftsmanship
and
harmony
with
nature
in
their
pre-industrial
and
craftsman.
N
Styles,
amid
tree-lined
streets
and
Hitchcock
woods,
and
while
the
Rockefellers
and
Van
der
Bilt's
reigned
in
Newport
and
visited
Aiken,
it
was
a
group
of
wealthy
progressive
women,
reformers
from
various
American
cities,
not
just
the
north,
who
who
aware
Aitken's
history
as
a
place
for
health
through
nature
and
climate
climate
work
to
cultivate
akin
in
a
way
that
ensured
Aitken
provided
a
genuine
lifestyle
for
all.
It
was
Celestine
Eustace
who
brought
her
niece
Louise
Eustace,
who
the
Hitchcock
taken
for
her
health
first
and
foremost,
even
before
the
horses.
N
It
was
Lewis
Hitchcock,
who
rode
astride
a
horse.
First,
who
created
the
Aiken
horsey,
set
comprised
of
both
men
and
women
from
all
over
the
world
and
who
established
a
can
prep
a
Country,
Day
School,
which
was
very
progressive
for
the
time
period.
Country
Day
schools
is
a
progressive
educational
movement.
It
was
animus
done.
It
was
Louise's
cousin,
Marie,
Hoffman,
wife
of
Fame
romanticist
pianist,
who
founded
fermata
school
for
girls,
also
a
Country
Day
School
to
see
it
to
it.
N
Now
the
Fermata
club
clubhouse,
designed
in
the
Craftsman
style
and
the
first
Aitken
hospital
building,
which
is
a
Colonial
Revival
style,
and
it's
an
arts
and
crafts
dish
in
itself,
and
it
was
the
Fermata
school
for
girls
who
shared
ideals
with
and
donated
furnishings
to
the
new
nurses
home.
As
note
in
this
Aiken
stand
review
that
was
printed
1939.
The
Aiken
hospital
said
yes,
it's
important
indeed
because
of
its
history
and
architecture,
but
but
it's
more
important,
I
think
because
of
its.
N
E
Mr.
chairman
rocket
appear
won't
take
much
of
your
time.
Pediatric
dentist,
143,
Trafalgar,
Street
Southwest
for
the
past
30
years.
I
think
the
proposal
before
you
tonight
meets
all
of
the
minimal
criteria
for
the
designation
that's
being
requested,
and
it
should
be
granted
as
it
is
being
requested.
The
diversionary
arguments
about
whether
or
not
Betts
is
worth
granting
the
proposal.
I,
don't
really
think
falls
under
the
purview
of
this
group.
This
committee
and
therefore
I
believe
for
that
reason,
also
that
the
proposal
that's
being
made
tonight
should
be.
E
B
B
A
A
Yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
accept
the
argument
necessarily
that
it's
either
place
the
historical
designation
on
it
or
we
just
saw
the
whole
site.
Then
it's
gonna
just
turn
the
crowd
right.
I!
Don't
accept
that
argument,
I
think
the
site
can
be
developed
appropriately
either
way,
I,
don't
think
it's
an
either/or
situation,
Willis
or
Irving,
just
as
a
curator
thumbing
through
this.
Mr.
Boddy's
information
is
also
designed.
The
the
original
Aiken
County
Jail,
the
new
J,
will
be
a
handsome
building.
The
one
that
is
up-to-date
Macon
can
be
should
be
proud
of
it.
A
A
Okay!
Do
we
have
a
motion?
We
can
suspend
the
rules
if
you
wish
to
discuss
it
or
we
can
make
a
motion
and
discuss
it.
Then
are
we
going
to
opposition
yeah
opposition
I'm?
Sorry,
I
didn't
see
anybody
raising
waving
their
hand
back
there.
I
may
have
missed
somebody.
Well,
yes,
ma'am!
Oh
yes,
sir,
yes
ma'am!
Yes,
sir
I'm.
K
K
Jacob
at
least
I
live
at
the
resort
court
on
the
south
side
of
town.
I
know
he's
not
technically
the
area
that
we're
talking
abut.
My
family
has
been
here
since
the
late
18-hundreds
I've
seen
he
can
go
up
down
in
between
all
around
my
great-grandmother.
Only
soldiers
dress
shop,
which
cater
to
this
winter
colony.
That
built.
K
But
I
can't
I
can
go
up
down
with
good
things,
bad
things,
one
of
the
worst
things
I've
seen
the
city
or
county,
don't
know
who's
to
fault,
for
it
he's
been
neglecting
of
West
Richland
Avenue.
We
have
poured
probably
billions
of
dollars
over
the
years
into
lowering
Street
and
the
alley
and
Park
Avenue.
Maybe.
K
Billions
that
is
gorgeously
done
and
kept
up
fantastically,
but
that
part
of
West
Richland
acts
like
it
doesn't
isn't
part
of
a
kinnor,
since
when
did
West
Richland,
which
is
young,
the
west
side
of
town
which
downtown
is
not
become
part
of
the
city
anymore.
And
if
we
were
to
do
the
hospital
redevelopment
for
apartments,
what
better
way
to
ascertain
the
revitalization
of
West
virtualmin
Avenue
than
by
starting
with
the
old,
akin
hospital
and
turning
it
into
apartments?
K
A
P
Hello,
everybody
I
know
it
look
a
little
bit
younger
than
the
crowd
that
has
preceded
me.
My
name
is
Judah
Londo
I
live
at
one
to
three
GS
for
Street
and
just
like
my
preceding
speaker,
I'd
like
to
bring
the
council's
attention
to
the
continued
degradation
of
Richland
Avenue.
These
are
my
neighbors.
These
are
the
people
that
I
care
deeply
about
recently
I've
lost
neighbors
because
of
lack
of
business
on
their
Richland
Avenue
businesses
and
I.
P
Think
that
has
two
lot
to
do
with
the
new
construction
that
goes
on
in
Richland
Avenue
one
two,
three
Jasper
Street
was
my
first
home,
the
first
time
I
ever
purchased
and
that
area
along
Haines
Avenue
is
a
historic
gem
that
should
be
protected
at
all
costs
and
I.
Think
that
encompasses
also
the
Richland
Avenue
area.
P
Hill
area
and
we
had
saw
the
infill
properties
that
had
taken
place
there,
and
we
were
turned
away
by
the
fact
that
these
infill
properties
had
taken
a
part
of
the
historic
landscape
of
that
area
and
recycled
them
into
new
properties
and
I,
hear
the
arguments
that
this
property
can
be
repurposed
without
a
historic
designation
being
put
or
placed
upon
them
and
currently
I'm
working
on
a
project
to
oppose
the
city's
project.
200
demo
200
program
and
we've
noticed
a
sincere
lack
of
oversight
when
it
comes
to
sort
of
properties
in
this
town.
P
P
As
my
houses,
property
value
is
at
cost
of
what
these
decisions
are
made
and
I
think
that
it
is
easy
for
people
that
don't
live
in
this
area.
To
say:
oh,
it's
on
the
other
side
of
town,
I'm
not
worried
about
it.
Whether
or
not
it's,
this
historic
area
or
whether
or
not
it's
repurposed
into
a
Jamba
Juice
juice
bar.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
the
reason
why
that
place
is
historic
is
the
same
reason
why
my
place
on
one-two-three
Jasper?
That's
almost
a
hundred
years
old
is
historic.
P
A
J
G
Appreciate
everyone's
interest
in
this
historic
piece
of
property:
it's
one
reason:
I
love,
Aiken
people
care
and
it
appears
to
me
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
on
the
hospital
and
the
nurses,
home
and
the
property.
But
we
don't
know
what
the
intended
use
for
that
property
is
going
to
be
I
mean
we
all
know
it's
up
for
sale
by
the
county
and
they're
losing
$5,000
a
month.
G
While
it
sits
there
to
me,
it's
premature
to
designate
this
as
a
historical
district,
because
we
might
be
shooting
ourselves
in
the
foot
if
we
were
just
arguing
whether
it
should
be
historical
or
not,
and
it
wasn't
for
sale.
That
would
be
one
thing,
but
for
that
reason,
I
would
propose
for
designated
application
des
one:
eight
zero
one:
zero
zero,
two
applicant
martin
buckley
and
lucy
knowles
tax
parcel
one.
Oh
four,
two
zero,
two
one:
zero
zero
one
I
would
make
the
motion
that
we
deny
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
historical
district.
Three
second.
B
I
agree
with
you,
I
think
I
think
jumping
the
gun
on
this
is
gonna
cause
us
to
shoot
ourselves
in
the
foot
if
a
sale
can
be
made
and
someone
purchases
this
with
the
intent
of
developing
it,
then
I'm
sure
that
some
sort
of
agreement
can
be
reached
as
to
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
preserve
this
building.
It
was
done
before
it
can
be
done
again.
You
know,
I
understand
the
importance
of
the
nurses
building.
B
My
aunt
was
a
nurse
her
entire
life
and
in
fact
she
stayed
in
a
nurse's
building
in
Colombia,
and
that's
why
I
mentioned,
but
anyway,
however,
I
don't
think
that
one
small
building
should
control
the
outcome
of
the
larger
building.
You
know,
and
it
may
be,
that
someone
who
purchases
that
property
can
incorporate
that
nurses
building
into
it
and
turn
it
into
a
little
retail
shop
to
serve
the
people
who
live
in
the
community
that
will
probably
be
built
as
far
as
the
way
Richland
Avenue
West
corridor
goes.
I.
Think
and
I
agree
with
you.
B
It's
one
of
the
saddest
places
in
Aitkin.
It
brings
me
no
joy
to
drive
from
downtown
Aiken
to
Augusta.
There's
nothing
in
joyous
to
look
at
it's
not
pretty
it's
not
attractive.
It
has.
It
does
nothing
to
attract
businesses
other
than
people
that
move
in
and
out
of
the
cement
boxes
that
are
already
there.
You
know,
there's
no
reason
for
people
to
want
to
build
restaurants.
There
there's
no
reason
for
people
to
want
to
build
anything
there.
It's
the
sore
spot
of
Aiken,
it
is
and
it
needs
to
be
developed.
B
So
for
that
reason,
I
tend
to
agree
with
you.
You
know,
I
would
love
to
see
that
area,
revitalized
and
I'd
love
to
get
some
of
those
people
who
are
moving
into
North,
Augusta
and
Augusta
and
who
are
here
with
Fort
Gordon
I
would
love
to
see
them.
Looking
at
Aiken
and
saying
this
is
a
viable,
vibrant
community
and
I
can
see
myself
living
here
is
what
I'd
like
to
see.
H
Mr.
chairman
I
want
to
make
a
couple
comments
yes,
and
to
get
a
clarification
on
one
thing.
I
agree
with
Bob's
point
here,
however,
I
do
I
did
hear
Lucy's
comment
that
she
would
rather
us
table
this
than
deny
it,
because
it
could
potentially
I
want
to
make
sure
ryan
clarifies
this.
Would
this
potentially
be
an
issue
if
mr.
Holtzman
is
in
play
with
the
purchase
to
have
this
come
back
before
us,
as
submitted
within
the
next
12
months?
So.
J
A
city
council
denial
of
the
application
to
extend
would
correct.
It
would
prevent
somebody
from
reapplying
for
a
year
for
the
same
designation
now
so
there's
multiple
ways
that
it
could
be
designated
similar
to
what
you
heard
them.
Maybe
the
Marianne
group
talked
about
they
had
planned
on
going
for
national
designation
on
their
own,
which
can
be
done
without
doing
it
with
the
the
going
through
the
local
overlay
district.
J
In
this
case,
we
do
happen
to
have
an
overlay
district
that
is
derived
from
a
nationally
registered
district,
and
so,
in
that
sense,
as
Ms
Knowles
asserted
that
it
would
likely
be
easier
to
amend
that
national.
The
existing
nationally
recognized
district
to
include
this
property
than
the
process
of
individually
listing
a
property.
J
You,
the
the
planning
commissioners,
are
recommending
by
your
recommendation.
Your
recommendation,
along
with
the
design
review
board's
recommendation,
would
both
go
to
the
City
Council,
along
with
the
application,
as
presented
by
business
mr.
Buckley,
and
then,
if
they
were
to
deny
it,
then
that
has
a
cooling-off
period
of
a
one-year
one
year
before
somebody
could
refile
a
similar
application.
B
G
A
B
A
H
That's
my
that's.
My
only
issue
with
it
and
I
have
a
hard
time
designating
this
this
property,
as
is
currently
before
us
and
I,
think
that's
the
big
key.
We
may
be
missing.
We
can
talk
about
as
best
as
we
can
talk
about
how
what
the
cost
is,
but
that's
really
not
what's
in
front
of
us
I
mean
that's
up
to
the
developer,
to
determine
I
think
their
intention
is
is
good.
H
However,
I
think
the
fact
that
this
application
was
intended
for
the
developer
of
Brian
Halterman
and
what
he
intended
to
do
is
not
something
that
we
need
to
be
considering
at
this
point.
So
that
would
be
my
reasoning
of
potentially
tabling
this,
not
necessarily
denying
it.
However,
if
the
denial
is
more
apparent
this
evening,
I
think
that,
unfortunately,
that's
the
way
out-
that's
a
lien,
but
it
would
be
my
I
guess,
privy
to
just
say
that
I
would
rather
didn't
to
table
it
then
or
continue
it
and
denial.
H
A
D
A
Okay,
we
have
motion
motion
is
on
the
floor.
Tiffany
to
deny
the
proposed
amendment
to
historical
district
3
on
the
Aiken
historical
register.
All
in
favor
of
that
motion
raise
your
hand
opposed.