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From YouTube: Aiken Planning Commission Meeting: May 9, 2017
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A
Since
we
do
have
a
number
of
folks
with
us
today,
let
me
go
over
a
few
guidelines.
If
this
is
your
your
first
meeting,
we
will
ask
everyone
to
make
sure
that
their
cell
phones
are
on
mute
or
turned
off
out
of
respect
for
whoever
is
going
to
be
speaking.
And
secondly,
our
process
is,
we
will
call
an
application
or
an
item
of
business
on
the
agenda.
A
I
will
ask
for
those
who
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
application
and,
if
you
want
to
just
raise
your
hand,
you'll
be
called
on
you'll
come
down
to
the
podium.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
I'll
then
ask
for
anybody
who
is.
It
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
to
the
application,
and
then
we
will
let
anyone
who
has
any
other
comment
based
on
those
comments.
Speak
then
it
will
come
back
to
the
Commission
for
a
motion
and
we
will
take
a
vote
all
right.
A
A
A
C
A
D
A
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
tonight.
I'm
Randy,
Wolcott
I
live
at
two
to
one
third
Avenue
and
I'm.
A
real
estate
agent,
representing
the
sale
of
this
property
and
I
appreciate
all
of
the
staff
of
the
planning
director
trying
to
wade
through
this
difficult
process,
because
it's
been
very
confusing,
being
a
ordinance
of
and
how
to
get
this
handled
so
that
they
could
take
care
of
this.
E
Our
main
focus
here
is
that
this
is
a
part
of
an
a
city
ordinance.
It
has
been
taken
out
of
the
ordinance
five
years
ago
by
majority
of
the
land
owners
there
at
the
time,
and
it
is
owned
by
the
developer.
Still
that
owns
a
lot
of
the
out
parcels.
This
is
one
of
maybe
10
or
12
out
parcels
of
the
ridge
at
Rucker
Creek.
Most
of
them
are
walking
trails
that
part
of
the
open
space.
E
This
taking
this
out
still
keeps
the
open
space
at
the
requirement,
above
the
requirement
and
we'd
like
to
sell
it
to
the
people
who
are
looking
to
operate
it
as
a
barn,
the
original
purpose
of
the
of
the
buildings
in
a
development.
It's
part
of
the
open
space
will
remain
open
and
pleasurable
viewing
the
homeowners
association.
I.
Don't
believe,
really
wants
to
take
this
in,
because
there's
an
expense
and
of
maintaining
it
and
now
someone
else
will
take
care
of
that
and
it
will
be
maintained,
beautifully.
E
They've
agreed
to
certain
requirements
from
the
homeowners
association
to
keep
the
fencing
correct
the
way
it
is
now
no
parking
outside
the
fence
line,
keep
the
cars
in-house.
The
number
of
things
keep
the
and,
if
any
buildings,
to
being
concert
with
the
architecture
of
the
current
buildings.
So
we
feel
that
it's
been
sitting
there
empty
for
all
this
time.
It
needs
to
be
used.
E
It's
a
beautiful,
beautiful
building
and
she's
going
to
turn
it
into
something
that
will
be
an
amenity
to
the
homeowners
of
the
area
and
vacant
in
general,
as
it
will
be
a
place
that
you
can
go,
have
lessons
and
board
your
horses
and
she's
going
to
tell
you
more
about
that.
Maybe,
but
so
we
feel
that
it's
going
to
be
a
plus
plus
for
everyone,
so
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
the
sale
happen
and
I
think
we
have
to
get
approval
from
planning
and
the
Queen
City
Council
and
make
this
work.
C
The
you
said
it
was
being
removed
from
the
initial,
the
ordinance
it's
technically
not
being
removed
from
the
ordinance
it
was
removed
from
the
from
the
conditions
and
restrictions
correct,
which
control
the
remainder
of
the
subdivision.
That's
correct!
Now.
Are
you
agreeable
to
going
back
under
those
conditions
and
restrictions,
I.
E
C
C
Here's
here's
what
we're
looking
at
here
here.
One
of
the
conditions
is
the
all
future
improvements
to
the
stable
buildings,
be
consistent
of
harmonious
with
the
general
architecture
and
overall,
overall
aesthetics
of
the
residential
sections
of
the
ridge.
Now,
if
you
put
that
restriction
in
there,
essentially
you're
putting
the
prop
back
into
the
covenants,
they're
going
to
have
the
homeowners
association
of
the
ridge
would
then
have
control
over
changes,
modifications,
restriction
of
adaptations,
buildings,
etc.
You
understand
that
mm-hmm,
it's
not
problem.
C
E
My
decision,
I
wouldn't
be
the
one
that
would
have
the
onus
of
having
to
pay
a
homeowner
association
dues
again
I'm
the
real
estate
agent.
The
new
owner
would
have
to
make
that
decision,
and
they
have
talked
with
the
the
president
of
the
homeowners
association
and
worked
out
this
agreement
because
they
were
talking
about
maybe
making
it
two
parcels
the
two
payments
or
you
know
they
were
back
and
forth
on
the
financial
constraints
of
that,
and
it
wasn't
something
that
they
were
willing
to
do
to
to
buy
this
property
and
then
have
the
homeowner.
E
E
Director
and
I
think
that
they
have
a
good
understanding
and
faith
and
trust
that
they
will
be
be
taken
care
of
the
way
they
want.
They've
had
a
good
talks
and
the
the
buyer
has
gone
and
talked
with.
All
of
the
she's
walked
the
streets
and
knocked
on
doors
and
talked
to
a
number
of
the
residents
there
and
told
them
what
they're
going
to
be
doing
and
got
great
reviews
and
a
lot
of
I.
Don't
think
you'll
hear
a
lot
of
negative
about
what
she's
planning
on
doing
that.
Well,.
C
The
reason
I
ask
the
question:
is
the
planning
director
and
Planning
Department
have
suggested
possible
conditions
to
our
approval
of
the
of
the
the
new
concept
plan,
and
one
of
those
conditions
is
that
future
improvements
be
consistent
in
harmonious
with
the
general
architecture
and
overall
aesthetics
of
the
residential
section
of
the
ridge
and
I
I
mean
that
doesn't
bother
me
if
I
was
buying
the
property
I'm
I'd
say
you
know
they
does
that
mean
they've
got
control
over
what
I
put
there
and
I
think
it
was
I
think
it
probably
does
right.
Thank
you.
E
F
Oh
yeah,
I
say
I'll
jump
just
so
the
way
this
would
work
in
this
case
is
yeah.
It
wouldn't
staff
would
because
of
its
a
condition
of
approval.
Any
building
permit.
That's
issued
in
the
city
comes
through
the
Planning
Department
for
consistency
with
with
plans
and
in
zoning.
This
would
be
the
same
way.
So
if
there
were
any
significant
alterations,
then
staff
would
basically
pull
the
covenants
and
restrictions
to
make
sure
that
whatever
being
built
is
consistent,
so
we
can
go
through
the
HOA.
F
C
Area
be
not
personally
I,
don't
you
know
this
doesn't
matter
to
me.
I
was
the
owner
I,
wouldn't
want
necessarily
somebody
other
than
the
city
planning.
The
city
planning
department
is
always
going
to
have
an
issue
here
with
it,
but
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
go
beyond
that,
necessarily
to
a
homeowners
association.
E
C
E
I
went
there
today,
councilman
his
honor
I
I
went
there
today
and
look
at
the
streets
just
to
get
myself
again
revisited
phase
one
where
this
is
beautiful
streets.
That
grass
is
straight
to
the
edge
of
the
curb
the
curbs
have
no
dirt
in
them.
The
storm
drains
are
clear:
they're.
You
know
it's
functioning
in
that
area
where
this
would
be.
E
You
know,
part
of
Phase,
two
and
three
I
still
have
some
issues
but
they're
working
on
that
no
they're,
all
it's
an
ongoing
process
and
what
what
I
think
number
two
is
going
to
do
is
just
kill
this
deal
completely
because
of
the
time
frame.
How
can
we,
when
are
you
going
to
say
when
this
is
right
or
wrong?
Or
you
know,
there's
always
gonna
may
be
issues
for
another
year
out
there,
and
if
she
can't
do
this
and
she's
going
to
walk
away
and
the
ridge
won't
have
an
operating
amenity
that
they're
looking
Wadi.
F
This
was
this
was
recommended
by
the
city
engineer
and
he's
here,
and
he
could
probably
speak
to
that
this
evening
if
you
want
him
to,
but
it's
also
somewhat
tied
to
the
whole
removal
of
the
outlets
concept
across
the
entire
plan.
When
the
concept
plan
was
approved,
the
outlaw
its
did
a
number
of
things.
They
provided
open
space.
They
provided
stormwater
conveyance.
In
some
cases
they
provide
recreational
opportunities,
but
we
have
a
requirement
within
our
plan
residential
zoning
district,
that
there
needed
to
be
a
common
way
for
those
to
be
maintained.
F
There
was
some
concern
that,
without
it
being
under
the
HOA
that
they
were
not
being
maintained
properly
as
a
whole,
particularly
with
regard
to
stormwater
conveyance,
and
so
that's
why
the
city
engineer-
and
you
can
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
that
than
I
could.
But
it's
it's
tied
to
that
issue.
So.
C
G
That
we
might
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
some
others
speak
about
this,
and
maybe
we
can
get
more
information
because
I
don't
want
to
reserve
the
right.
That's
some
questions
for
mr.
wilcott,
but
I
want
to
wait.
They
reserve
the
right
to
call
him
back
again,
because
the
fact
that
I
want
to
hear
what
some
of
these
other
people
have
to
say
certainly.
A
E
From
the
city
are
taken
to
impossible
conditions
here
and
we've
agreed
to
nine
of
them
and
I
think
that
that
number
two
is
going
to
make
them,
decide
the
business
and
for
them
and
walk.
And
then
we
don't
have
anything
left.
The
barn
is
going
to
sit
there
and
deteriorate
and
become
a
problem.
So
all.
H
I
I
My
I
am
a
licensed
therapist
in
Montana
I
have
a
mental
health
background.
However,
my
passion
is
putting
kids
and
horses
together,
and
so
the
goal
for
this
barn
would
be
a
very
small
lesson:
program
for
kids,
adolescents
and
I'm,
not
opposed
to
adults
as
well
as
hopefully,
in
the
future,
continuing
to
make
it
more
and
more
accessible
to
kids,
who
may
not
otherwise
have
the
financial
or
ability
to
take
traditional
riding
lessons
and
it's
a
20
stall
barn.
However,
it's
limited
to
11
horses,
so
it
will
be
a
small.
I
A
small
operation
will
be
horses
that
belong
to
the
business
school
horses
for
riding
as
far
as
parking.
There
is
a
lovely
parking
lot
on
the
on
the
property
through
the
driveway
around
the
barn.
So
obviously
there
would
be
horse
trailers
parked
there
as
are
necessary,
and
when
people
come
for
lessons,
there
would
be
a
little
bit
of
traffic
just
through
the
front
of
the
gate,
not
through
the
main
subdivision
part
onto
the
barn
property.
I
As
far
as
drainage
on
the
property
there's
lovely
storm
drains
built
into
and
around
the
pastures
I
mean
it
was
really
designed.
Well,
so
the
water
drains
off
the
bar
and
those
are
drains,
that's
something
that
we
have
our
due
diligence
to
make
sure
work,
and
you
know
if
they
need
to
be
cleaned
out
or
otherwise
other
things
that
we
have
talked
about
with
the
neighbors
as
I've,
been
through
the
neighborhood
and
gotten
a
chance
to
meet
them.
I
I
As
far
as
safety
concerns,
we've
talked
about
the
fence,
it's
the
Kentucky
four
board.
We
would
like
to
add
a
perimeter
fence
that
matches
but
has
no
climb.
This
is
important
to
keep
kids
dogs
on
one
side,
horses
on
the
other,
and
so
I've
talked
to
the
neighbors
about
that
it
will
blend
it's
really
hard.
It
won't.
The
fence
will
look
the
same,
but
it
will
be
safer
and
I.
A
I
G
I
J
Hi,
my
name
is
Karla
Allah
renewed
whoa
should
I
stay
I'm
a
resident
at
the
ridge
and
I'm
on
the
HOA,
and
we
also
would
feel
the
burn
is
a
very
lovely
place
as
they've
stated,
and
it
sounds
like
they're
interested
in
keeping
it
the
same
way.
We
are,
but
we
request
that
you
keep
in
the
condition
about
the
architect.
Had
architectural
number
two.
D
J
Two
three
four:
four
because,
as
she
stated,
the
it
was
planned
as
part
of
the
community
and
it
looks
like
it
is
part
of
the
community,
even
though
it
has
been
taken
out
and
our
concern
is
that
we
have
it
aesthetically
pleasing
this
owner.
If
she
becomes
the
owner,
it
seems
that
she's
interested
in
doing
the
same
thing,
but
our
interest
is
long-term,
even
if
she
decides
to
sell
at
some
point,
we'd
like
to
keep
it
that
way.
J
We
don't
want
it
to
some
point
become
in
disrepair
or
because
it
will
reflect
on
our
community
and
right
now
it
is
a
lovely
place,
although
it
has
not
been
occupied
and
being
used,
we'd
like
to
keep
it
that
that
way.
So
that's
my
request
that
we
please
be
able
to
keep
that
in
its
if
it
has
to
be,
as
mr.
hunter
mentioned,
that
they
would
be
under
the
HOA
or
in
some
way.
If
it
has
to
be
viewed.
J
A
Any
arrangement
that
the
prospective
buyer
and
the
HOA
comes
to
would
certainly
be
between
you
all.
You
know,
and
you
may
want
to
have
that
in
addition
to
this
just
to
protect
your
long-term
interest.
Yes,
but
that
would
be
a
separate
that
would
not
be
a
part
of
you
know.
It
will
be
facilitated
if
we
left
for
in.
J
Okay,
yes,
that's
what
our
intention?
Yes
and
I'm
new
to
the
state,
I
moved
from
Seattle,
so
I,
don't
know
what
the
city
does
when
it
comes
to
approving
out
buildings
and
things.
So
I
was
wondering
if
the
buyer
decided
to
put
various
outbuildings,
because
those
things
are
necessary,
sometimes
to
store
a
tractor
or
to
put
other
equipment.
That's
not
stored
in
the
barn.
Does
the
city
decide
or
take
into
consideration
where
that
outbuilding
would
be
placed
on
the
property
I'll.
F
J
F
J
Okay,
so
just
like
the
others,
we
have
no
issues
with
that.
That's
fine,
too!
We
we
really
I've
lived
there
as
long
as
some
of
the
others.
We
were
one
of
the
first
or
second
houses
in
the
community,
and
there
has
been
times
when
there
were
horses
there
and
there
were
times
it's
not,
and
my
personal
preference
as
well
as
some
of
my
other
neighbors,
have
said.
We
really
like
the
community
when
they're
horses
there.
A
K
Signs
9,
1,
5,
Whitney,
Drive
and
I'm,
actually
representing
the
karremans
and
the
purchase
of
this
property,
getting
through
the
various
hurdles
and
I
guess,
at
least
with
respect
to
the
one
issue
that
was
raised
about
putting
the
property
back
under
the
CCR's
I.
Think
one
of
the
main
issues
with
that
is
it's
difficult
to
say:
well,
we're
just
going
to
put
this
property
in
there
for
the
very
limited
purposes
that
we've
discussed.
K
In
other
words,
if
we
we
put
the
property
under
there,
this
would
be
considered
a
recreational
amenity
and
the
way
the
covenants
have
that
set
up
is
the
the
other.
Homeowners
would
be
responsible
for
the
upkeep
of
the
barn
they
would
have
to
pay
towards
the
maintenance.
That's
just
one
example,
so
there's
a
lot
of
I
guess
you
would
have
to
carefully
redraft
the
CCR's
to
have
it
be
consistent,
I
think,
with
what
the
the
neighbors
want
with
what
the
karremans
would
like.
K
So
we
thought
it
was
an
easier
way
just
to
have
these
three
conditions.
I
think
we
had
conditions
3,
4,
&
5.
We
discussed
that
with
the
HOA.
We
are
fine
with
that
and
I
think.
The
idea
as
well
was
to
have
a
really
would
be
a
license
to
help
pay
our
share
of
the
costs
for
the
community,
because,
obviously,
if
they're
used
roads,
they
feel
they
should
chip
in
with
the
expenses
as
well.
I
think
one
of
the
the
with
respect
to
the
other
conditions.
K
The
carbons
are
completely
okay
with
those
the
one,
the
one
condition:
they're
there
I
guess
a
little
slow
to
accept
is
number
seven
that
deals
with
the
the
access
trails
through
the
property
and
I
guess.
The
concern
is
more
of
a
safety
issue
you're
going
to
have
entry
level
riders.
If
you
have
people
criss
crossing
through
that
property,
let's
say:
there's
a
walking
trail
and
if
they
have
a
dog,
the
concern
would
be.
K
You
could
spook
a
horse
and
it's
more
of
a
safety
issue,
so
they
do
have
an
issue
with
allowing
people
to
pass
through
the
property
and
I.
As
you
look
at
it,
you
know
that
property
is
at
the
entrance.
Really
there
really
wouldn't
be
a
reason
for
any
of
the
owners
to
go
through
there.
I
think
there
is
an
access
trail
that
goes
around
what's
shown
is
marmatan
court.
K
C
C
E
C
K
For
that
to
happen,
you
know
they'd
like
to
get
started.
If
it's
not
going
to
work
out,
they
just
soon
know
about
it
and
move
on
to
something
else,
but
we
just
think
it
would
be
good
for
the
community
to
have
this
operational.
You
know
in
my
mind
the
only
real
difference
in
what's
being
done
is
its
instead
of
being
owned
by
the
HOA.
It's
going
to
be
owned
by
a
private
entity,
but
other
than
that
it
seems
pretty
consistent.
F
Yeah
the
reason,
though,
further
we've
excluded
this
particular
waters,
for
the
reasons
that
he
kind
of
spoke
of
with
her
regarding
the
mechanism
of
the
CCR's
is
that
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
put
it
back
in
just
the
way
it
left.
You
would
have
to
build
it
back
in
as
a
residential
or
actually
probably
some
new
sort
of
property
that
doesn't
currently
exist,
I
mean,
and
so
the
logistics.
M
My
name
is
Alison
hi
and
I
live
at
197,
bakar
Lane,
just
right
down
the
road
from
where
the
barn
is
I
have
a
question
about
number
7:
the
existing
trails.
There
are
multiple
entrances
for
horses
for
pedestrians,
a
long
buck
are
they
mentioned
up
one
of
the
courts
up
there
would
the
horses
as
part
of
the
stables
access
the
roads
through
these?
Would
they
be
able
to
go
through
our
streets
to
access
these,
or
would
they
remain
an
outlaw
B's
access,
I.
G
F
M
That's
just
a
question
that
I
mean
with
the
kids
and
the
traffic
and
I
know
that
she
had
mentioned
that
there's
going
to
be
writers
of
all
levels.
Writing
these
horses!
If
they're
going
to
exclude
residents
they're
going
through
a
lot
B!
Because
of
that
that
concerns
me
as
entering
through
the
neighborhood,
where
the
cars
and
the
kids
are
playing
as
well,
something
to
bring
out.
C
F
F
Madam
chair,
just
to
clarify
kind
of
two
I,
would
say
that
the
immediate
east
there
of
the
subject
property,
as
you
see
on
the
map,
is
where
the
trail
system
kind
of
starts.
So
it
does
have
a
route
from
the
property
without
accessing
the
streets
to
get
into
the
existing
trail
system.
I
think
the
concern
was
that
whether
I
believe
there's
a
current
access
that
goes
through
the
property
cuts
through
the
property.
M
Would
there
be
any
restrictions
on
entering
the
other
trail
entrances
is,
is
mainly
my
concern
because
I
know
some
of
them
are
through
people's
yards
and
with
with
younger
riders.
Who
may
not
be
experienced
that
just
kind
of
concerns
me
with
the
kids,
something
else
that
I
am
curious
about
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
the
answer
would
be
future
implications,
say
she
outgrows
or
barn,
which
would
be
great
for
you.
If
you,
if
your
business
grew,
what
would
happen
to
the
property?
Should
it
be
sold,
would
it
remain
an
equestrian
property?
D
M
F
F
As
part
of
this
concept,
plan
amendment
would
run
with
the
land
to
subsequent
buyers,
and
so
that
this
was
this
would
be
what
their
restriction
would
be,
could
be
commercial
stable
with
residents
up
to
the
mountain
or
tsa's
stated
that
sort
of
thing
and
have
to
it,
for
a
significant
change
occurred
have
to
go
back
through
the
process
like
this.
So.
E
I
believe
that
this
property
is
going
to
be
reason
or
zoned
RSS,
which
is
single,
stable,
single
residential,
stable,
not
commercial.
So
that's
that's
a
zoning
that
we
have
downtown
Aiken
near
the
Hitchcock
woods,
where
there's
horses,
houses
that
have
horses
and
stables,
it's
not
a
commercial
per
se,
so
I,
don't
think
that
you
have
fear
of
it.
Turning
into
McDonald's
or
or
a
manufacturing.
E
E
Here's
an
access
to
the
trail
system
breaks.
The
code
goes
into
this,
which
is
the
premium
preserve,
and
then
this
is
the
trail
system
that
comes
up
and
stops
here,
and
so
she
would
use
that
to
walk
around,
get
up
cross
the
bridge
and
get
into
this.
The
other
thing
is
currently,
those
trails
are
all
owned
by
a
PA
is
private
property,
but
once
it's
given
to
the
HOA,
then
they
will
have
the
right
to
decide
who
can
use
it.
E
E
N
A
O
My
name
is
Melissa
Beecham
and
I
live
at
2283
Tucker
Creek,
which
abuts
property.
Now
my
house
is
quite
old
and
has
been
there
for
over
a
hundred
years.
I
do
you,
I
have
horses
and
I
do
use
the
trails
I'm,
hoping
that
I
would
have
access
still
to
the
trails.
I
have
a
gate
that
opens
into
the
property
being
considered,
so
I
actually
can
use
that
to
get
to
the
back
side
of
the
trails
that,
if
you
want
me
to
I,
can
show
please.
O
O
O
P
C
C
A
Homeowner
association
I,
thank
you
yeah.
You
would
have
to
discuss
that
with
the
homeowners
association
and
in
view
of
all
the
changes
that
are
happening,
it
would
probably
be
who
view
to
contact
them
and
see
if
you
can
formalize
that
that
access,
if
you
think
you
have
it
so
that
there's
no
confusion
right.
O
I
mean
there's,
never
been
anything
right
on
paper
that
says,
but
this
has
been
going
on
for
years
and
everyone,
no
one
has
ever
said.
Hey,
you
know,
you
know
it's.
Just
it's
been
working
out.
I
just
I
would
like
to
hope
that
it
does
work
out,
for
you,
I
mean
I'm
all
about
the
idea
of
it
and
I'd
like
to
see
see
it
be
a
homogenous
situation
for
everybody.
I
think
it
is
a
wonderful
idea
to
keep
it
as
a
barn.
O
O
A
I
So
the
there
is
a
residence
in
the
barn,
so
the
footprint
is
not
going
to
change
at
all.
I,
don't
know
anything
about
building
a
house,
that's
never
anything
that
we
wanted
to
do.
I'd
have
to
give
up
my
arena
or
my
turnouts
and
I'm
not
doing
either
one
so
I
would
live
in
the
barn.
There's
an
apartment.
Okay,
all.
A
A
Q
Absolutely
we've
been
having
a
good
deal
of
problems
with
the
stormwater
runoff
in
this
subdivision,
many
of
the
out
parcels
that
are
shown
here
or
actually
stormwater,
easements
and
they're
eroding
away
a
you
know,
a
pretty
good
rate
also
to
address
you
know
even
on
moment
marmots
in
court
there
you
can
see
a
little
flag
lot.
Looking
thing:
that's
coming
up
from
the
out
parcel,
no.
Q
Q
And
that
particular
location
was
supposed
to
be
a
robust
well
and
no
riprap,
or
anything
like
that.
That
prevent
erosion
is
present.
It's
just
grasped
during
a
storm
event.
Well,
is
that,
like
a
month
ago,
yeah
about
about
a
month
ago
on
storm
event,
came
water
came
through
jumped
the
curb
washed
out,
all
that
grass,
and
now
you
know
you
got
yards.
People's
yards
are
actually
being
washed
away
from
the
storm
water.
That's
coming
down,
marmatan
court
and
you
know,
portion
of
that.
Stormwater
actually
does
come
from
this
parcel
in
question.
A
Q
Lot
of
the
timeframe
would
be
dependent
on
how
quickly
the
seller
could
get
an
engineer
out
there
to
take
a
look
at
this.
We've
already
asked
in
the
past,
and
they
started
down
that
path,
but
it
kind
of
just
fizzled
out.
So
when
I
saw
this
one
I
said
well,
here
we
go
again
so
it's
kind
of
a
reoccurring
issue
there:
okay,
full
cooperation,
it
wouldn't
take
long.
The
developer
in
the
Phase
three
has
been
working
with
us
and
they've
been
making
good
progress.
B
B
Q
Other
fact
that
may
be
interesting
is
that
there
is
still
active
stormwater
permit
from
the
state
on
this
that
the
city
did
not
do
the
review
on
the
stormwater.
It
was
actually
a
state
issued
NPDES
permit,
and
you
know
just
from
observations.
They
have
not
complied
with
all
the
requirements
of
that
permit,
as
far
as
installing
the
riprap
swell
would
be
a
perfect
example.
B
E
F
Q
Honestly,
Ron
I
don't
know
how
to
answer
that
I
mean.
Is
there
there's
going
to
be
areas
there
that
are
actual
stormwater
easements
that
will
be
dedicated
to
the
city
at
one
point,
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
want
horses
going
across
that
all
the
time
I
mean
there's.
This
is
a
complex
issue.
It
says
you
know.
C
And
it
is
I,
don't
want
to
put
it
on
the
buyer,
but
I
don't
want
to
come
back
on
the
city
either.
I
don't
want
something
to
happen
here
and
I
know
you're
talking
around
the
point.
But
if
you
don't
get
this
straight,
the
city
could
become
a
defendant
absolutely
and
has
become.
That
could
happen.
Well
we're
not
careful
with
this
yeah.
G
E
Again,
this
has
been
a
difficult
terrain
and
they
built
these
roads
to
city
specs
with
the
city.
With
a
with
a
private
engineer,
they
were
all
built
to
those
plans
in
2014.
They
gave
the
developer
four
page
list
of
punch
list
of
things
that
they
wanted
him
to
complete.
He
made
all
those
repairs
and
I
gave
just
last
night,
the
Planning
Board.
E
It
wasn't
in
your
packet,
but
a
letter
from
the
city
engineer,
agreeing
that
everything
had
been
done
to
the
engineering
plans
and
been
corrected
appropriately
and
they
thanked
him
for
taking
care
of
it
all.
So
he
has
done
work
in
the
past
and
he
says
position
is
it
was
engineered.
He
did
it
to
the
engineer.
They
asked
him
to
make
some
changes
and
then
they
signed
off
on
it.
So
there's
been
some,
you
know.
Maybe
it
wasn't.
There
were
some
engineering
things
that
weren't
done.
You
know
thought
through
completely
but
and
heavy
rain.
E
So
you
know
there's
a
little
bit
of
both
ways,
but
you
know
it
did
try
and
do
it
and
yeah
I
went
out
there
today
and
there's
grass
up
to
the
curbs
it's
a
beautiful
there's,
not
any
dirt.
In
the
and
they've
gutters
the
drains
are
open.
It
looks
beautiful,
I,
don't
see
an
issue,
I
see
an
issue
on
the
and
the
new
phase,
the
phase
three,
where
there's
construction
going
on
now,
but
I
took
a
lot
of
pictures.
Q
The
state
permit
was
issued
through
deaq
doing
a
expedited
review
process.
Palm
that's
Ron
Monahan
holds
the
NPDES
coverage
for
both
phases:
1
2,
&
3.
To
my
knowledge,
none
of
these
things
have
been
closed
out.
They're
all
active
NPDES
permits.
It
was
all
get
gathered
at
one
time,
a
lot
of
the
plans
that
have
been
approved
through
the
city
since
that
time
are
slightly
different.
Yet
they
never
went
back
and
updated
the
stormwater
plans
to
reflect
that.
So
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
contention
there
a
little
bit
of
discrepancy.
C
K
R
C
K
C
S
C
S
T
E
C
K
C
B
D
C
B
B
A
C
G
I'd
like
to
sit
and
Lady
come
on
in
and
join
the
city
of
Aitkin
have
that
in
there
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
concerns
that
the
engineering
department
has
presented
us
tonight
and
any
future
issues
that
the
city
of
Aitkin
might
incur
as
a
result
of
us
recommending
City
Council
that
this
be
accepted
in
that's
my
biggest
concern
and
I
like
the
idea,
but
it's
just
that's
a
concern
and
then
number
seven
for
me
is
still
I'd
like
to
discuss
that
I'd
like
to
hear
more
for
y'all.
What's
your
feelings
on
that
honor,
let's.
B
Say
I
totally
agree
with
you,
Bob
and
I.
Think
the
more
important
thing
is
the
city
engineer
to
I
mean.
Obviously
this
is
a
huge
concern.
However,
I
think
from
a
common
sense
lead
legal
kind
of
connotation
here
and
we've
signed
off
on
it
from
a
city
perspective,
I
mean
how
can
you
hold
an
a
buyer
to
to
potentially
got
there's
been
this
type
of
money
or
hold
them
up
for
something
that's
party
in
play
and
they're
not
moving
dirt
for
a
new
footprint?
B
D
C
C
Contract
is
probably
all
contingent
upon
and
I.
Don't
know
this
for
a
fact,
but
I'll
bet
you.
This
whole
contractors
continued
upon
this
happening
and
that
not
being
in
there
so
I
think
what
you're
doing
is
you're
you're,
basically
telling
the
seller,
which
is
which
is
the
corporation,
that
they
got
to
fix
it
yeah.
U
With
the
city,
engineering
and
what
he
said
is
for
us
do
we
have
any
recourse
to
go
back
to
the
developer
and
if
we
do
I
think
we
need
to
proceed
it
proceed
with
that.
Also
I
think
we
need
to
proceed
with
the
documentation
that
they
said
that
came
forth.
That
everything
was
signed
off
on.
I
would
like
to
see
our
that
before
I
could
make
a
decision,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
think
we
need
to
put
it
on
the
buyer.
It
suppose
these
condition,
but
we
do
need
something
in
here
to
protect.
G
A
C
I
would
like
to
approve
it
I
think
it's
a
great
I
think
it's
a
great
proposal.
I
think
it
I
think
the
neighborhood
seems
to
want
it.
I
thought
there
might
be
some
opposition
from
the
neighborhood
frankly,
but
there's
nice
neighborhood
seems
to
want
it.
Everybody
seems
to
want
it,
but
we
have
a
city
engineer,
we're
just
a
visor
each
sort
of
body.
C
Here
we
have
another
city
engineer
telling
us
that
there's
issue
that
there's
problems
and
I'm
not
willing
to
second
I,
can't
support
the
motion,
because
I
can't
second-guess
the
guy
he's
the
he
knows
a
lot
more
about
it
than
I
do
and
so
I
have
to
respect
his
opinion
and
that's
why
I
couldn't
support
it.
I'd
have
to
leave
it
in
I.
A
G
A
C
G
G
And
I
believe
that
that
was
it
Beechum
told
us.
You
know
she's
concerned
about
access,
I
mean
she
doesn't
live
in
the
city,
not
that
that
would
even
make
a
difference
even
as
you
did.
We
certainly
would
encourage
her
to
come
into
the
city,
but
it's
just
you
know
it
doesn't
really
make
a
difference,
because
the
fact
that
is
she
going
to
have
access
or
is
someone
else
not
going
to
have
access
anywhere,
let
it
be
miss
Beecham
or
anybody
else
to
these
trails
that
they
have
going
now.
Well.
D
A
So
we're
granting
access
to
something
that
doesn't
exist,
okay,
leave
it
off
and
then,
if
they
want
to
at
a
later
date,
pursue
some
other
arrangement
between
the
residents
and
Miss
Harmon.
That
would
be,
you
know
on
them
to
do,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
lock
them
into
doing
that,
and
it
doesn't
exist
right
now
that
that
would
be
my
concern.
Please,
like
Ramos,.
C
D
T
A
S
C
Well,
I,
would
you
know
you
know
we're
an
advisory
body.
I
would
still
have
to
say
that
I
would
want
it
left
in
the
City
Council.
Obviously
they
can
appeal
that
to
the
City
Council
our
decision,
and
that
is
the
place
for
it
to
be
discussed
in
front
of
the
campus
City
Council
with
all
parties
there.
There.
A
G
G
E
I'm
only
involved
with
the
developer,
with
the
sale
of
the
bar
and
I'm
not
intimate
with
the
sale
of
all
the
Lots
in
the
building
there.
So
I
hesitate
to
comment
on
that.
I,
don't
have
that
information,
but
again,
I
went
there
today,
it's
fairly
built
out,
and
maybe
one
or
two
open
Lots
there
but
I
think
everything's
very
stable
in
in
phase
1,
and
you
know
like
I
say
there
are
issues
with
the
rest
of
the
Lots
are
salted
a
homebuilder
and
that's
his
problem.
E
F
C
A
C
A
C
D
H
Speaking
this
yes
ma'am
Ellen
people's
I
live
on
Lachlan
and
all
of
you
see
me
on
the
three
wheel.
Bike
and
I
just
have
a
very
personal,
selfish
thing
to
say
last
year,
this
time
I
was
in
the
cast
because,
if
I'd
been
in
a
bike
lane,
maybe
it
wouldn't
have
happened
but
I
got
rear.
End
didn't
ended
up
with
a
broken
arm
and
had
months
of
you
know,
recovery
time
and
being
in
a
cast,
and
maybe,
if
I'd
been
in
a
bike
lane,
it
wouldn't
have
happened.
So
that's.
P
P
There's
people
that
use
that
area
for
bike
area
now,
every
day
I
see
bicyclists
people
that
don't
have
a
car
either
financially
can't
afford
one
or
maybe
they
don't
have
a
driver's
license,
whether
that's
being
used
by
bicycles,
all
the
time
right
now,
I
take
that
road,
at
least
each
direction
every
day
and
it
needs
a
bike.
Lane
is
part
of
the
development
of
a
modern
poundin
city.
It's
a
safety
issue
for
all
ages
and
all
parts
of
our
society,
because
that
part
of
town
has
people
that
are
poor.
They
use
that
bicycle
lane.
P
P
F
F
What
they
with
shared
lane
markings,
the
the
actual
marking
on
the
road
is
called
ash
arrow.
It
does
two
things:
it
tells
a
motorist
where
they
could
expect
a
cyclist
to
be
in
the
road
and
it
tells
cyclists
the
preferred
location
for
the
cyclist
to
ride
within
the
through
lane
as
part
of
state
law.
It
says
that
cyclists
who
utilize
roadways
are
to
ride
the
furthest
to
the
right
as
feasible
or
as
reasonably
possible,
and
so
the
share
lane
markings
are
are
just
that.
F
F
V
Isn't
there
one
on
Haines,
Avenue
I?
Guess
people
get
a
different
idea
about
what
where
they
should
park
where
they
can't
park
and
we
have
a
parking
problem.
So
as
long
as
this
doesn't
affect
our
business
they're,
not
you
know
it
may
be
feasible
to
do
this,
but
if
it
becomes
an
issue
with
parking,
I
think
it
would
be
a
problem
and.
V
V
H
I'm
also
a
business
owner
I
bookstore
near
her
business,
apparently
and
I,
don't
see
where
the
parking
would
be
a
problem
parking
on
York
down
there
right
now
is
our
serious
problem
because
of
the
bridge
construction,
yes,
but
that
presumably
went
to
an
end
sometime.
Okay,
we
live
long
enough
right,
it's
sometime
in
our
lifetime.
It's
okay.
L
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Richard
parks,
I
live
on
the
northwest
side
of
Hampton
Avenue
and
I
want
to
tell
the
Commission.
We
are
not
opposed
of
the
bike
lanes,
but
our
main
concern
is
safety,
and
we
will
I
have
worked
with
previously
city
managers,
engineers,
City
Council,
for
about
20
years
and
I'm.
A
main
concern
and
issue
is:
we
need
sidewalk
and
lighting
in
that
area,
because
it's
mainly
a
foot
traffic
area
on
we've
had
many
accidents,
even
death
on
Hampton
Avenue,
and
it
would
be.
L
It
would
just
be
a
dream.
Come
true
that
if
we
could
get
even
this
the
bike
lanes,
we
need
sidewalks
and
lighting,
because
most
of
the
people
in
our
neighborhood
I
have
been
there
48
years
on
Hampton
Avenue
and
most
of
the
people
in
that
area
have
been
there
for
two
plus
years
and
they
when
we
walk,
we
have
to
walk
in
the
streets
and
because
there's
no
area
in
people's
you
are
to
to
walk.
You
don't
want
to
invade
anyone's
privacy
and
also
since
Dollar
General
is
there.
You
even
got
more
foot
traffic.
L
There's
children,
people
coming
from
Senate
representative
drive
and
walking
to
Dollar,
General
and
down
from
say,
North,
Carolina,
Avenue
and
up
near
the
convenience
stores,
walk
in
that
area
and
it
just
become
a
real
safety
issue,
and
we
would
just
like
to
request
if
you
spoke
to
miss
unless
it
price
about
it's
been
an
ongoing
thing.
I
even
spoke
to
our
city
manager
on
previous
sentence.
Sending
managers
have
promised
us.
The
one
says
one
cent
tax
bond
that
it
would
develop
these,
this
on-site
walking
lighting
for
that
area.
L
They
were
going
to
work
with
the
city
because
one
half
is
the
city.
One
half
is
on
one
side
of
the
county
and
they
were
going
to
try
to
work
with
the
state
and
see
what
could
they
come
up
with
where
when
the
time
come
came,
it
was
no
funds
that
was
available,
but
over
the
years
they've
had
expert
funding
for
other
revitalizations
in
this
city
area
and
from
cameo
area,
Hampton,
Avenue
all
the
way
down
to
University
Parkway,
and
they
had
said
in
the
beginning
that
118
bypass
would
be
our.
L
You
know
the
version
from
Hampton
Avenue,
but
it
is,
it
has
increased
the
traffic.
You
know
with
Walmart
on
that
area,
the
hospital
University
of
South
Carolina.
It
has
increased
that
traffic
and
mainly
we,
you
know
it's
a
foot
traffic
area
and
it's
just
very
dangerous
in
that
area
and
I
just
bring
I'm
bringing
forward
to
the
Commission.
L
If
you
could
talk
to
the
city
about
mainly
the
sidewalks
in
the
area,
because
it's
even
on
footing,
city
buses,
school
buses,
the
city,
county
and
emergency
vehicles,
that's
the
main
route
to
any
area
that
they
got
to
there
go
into
is
Hampton
Avenue
and
it's
no
speed
limit.
You
know
it's
kind
of
like
open
season.
You
know
going
down
through
there,
especially
an
emergency,
and
we
can
understand-
and
you
have
a
lot
of
children.
L
I
have
nine
grandchildren
in
the
evening
that
plays
out
in
that
you
know
on
the
side
and
they
don't
know
danger
and
I've,
even
gotten
some
of
the
officers
to
talk
to
them
about
safety,
the
children
on
that
area,
but
children
they
just
play.
And
if
it's
some
time
it's
a
lot
of
people
at
my
house
and
people
run
off
the
edge
of
the
road
between
our
house
and
other
house
when
they're
going
around
that
curve
near
a
Dollar
General.
So
that's
that's
our
main
concern.
Well,.
A
D
L
G
We
have
is
a
commission.
We've
talked
about
that
when
we
brought
knowledge
eneral
in
we
talked
about
sidewalks,
although
to
go
back
to
the
chairman.
You
know
that's
not
before
us
tonight,
but
right.
What
I
need
to
know
from
you
is:
are
you
for
the
bike
lanes
and
the
enhancement
of
these
lanes
being
designated
on
Hampton
Avenue
I.
Never
did
hear
that
specifically.
L
A
L
L
They
want
to
give
this
persona
of
being
this
beautiful
city,
and
but
they
weren't
concerned
about
the
infrastructure
on
further
down
and
and
I
was
even
in
a
meeting
with
them
during
that
time,
because
if
even
if
we
said
lighting
would
help
and
if
it
was
just
something
like
down
on
Richland
Avenue,
where
they
put
their
little
sidewalks
down,
that
would
help
a
lot,
because
we
don't
have
that
much
footage
there.
You
know
from
the
road
to
our
homes,
but
you
know
anything
with
help,
so
people
wouldn't
have
yet
other
applications.
A
L
And
also
you
know
we're
proud
of
our
area
too
and,
like
one
lady
spoke
for,
that
is
a
lot
of
underprivileged
people,
children
there,
but
still
we
have
pride
in
what
we
have.
We
have
pride
in
what
we
have
and
we
want
it
to
be
safe
for
the
residents
and
also
we're
working
at
and
now
to
some
areas.
That's
not
that
presentable.
We
still.
We
want
we're
working
with
that
also
to
try
to
tear
down
some
van
vacant
homes.
L
A
W
Yes,
my
name
is
Mike
Costigan
I'm,
located
at
4:03,
Park
Avenue,
a
question
I
have
no.
Nowhere
on
any
of
these
maps
can
I
tell
where
these
lanes
are
going
to
be
running
from
pain,
Avenue
around
the
corner
on
Park.
The
reason
I
say
that
is,
it
appears
that
this
is
going
to
be
connected
to
what
is
currently
on
eighth
Avenue.
Is
that
correct.
C
W
The
concern
I
have
is
that
if
you're
familiar
with
ain't,
Avenue
people
come
down
there
pretty
fast
when
they
get
to
right
near
where
it
turns
the
corner
under
park,
it's
25
miles
an
hour.
Nobody
goes
25.
They
come
around
that
corner
and
in
front
of
my
office
and
all
those
offices
right
there
on
Park.
We
have
angle
parking
now
when
you're
in
the
car
and
you're.
Looking
back
over
your
right
shoulder
and
there's
a
car
parked
right
to
your
right,
you
can't
see
a
car
coming
around.
W
That's
very
dangerous,
now,
I
assume
from
what
I
can
see
and
when
I'm
read
here
that
that
would
be
out
beyond
where
those
angled
parking
markings
are
okay,
says
here
in
paragraph
3,
Motor
Vehicles
may
not
block
the
bicycle
lane
to
oncoming
bicycle
traffic
and
she'll
yield
to
a
bikes
yield
to
a
bicyclist
in
the
bicycle
lane
before
entering
or
crossing
the
lane.
If
you're
in
your
car,
you
can
barely
see
a
car
coming
around
the
corner.
Backing
up
my
concern
is
cyclists.
G
Agree
with
you,
as
a
retired
police
officer,
I'ma
tell
you
I,
agree
with
you,
however,
that
bicyclists
by
state
statute
law
has
just
as
much
right
as
you
do
that
automobile.
So
this
is
just
enhanced.
Hey
everyone,
you're
coming
down
the
road
bicyclists
could
potentially
be
here
and
that's
what
these
markings
are
about.
It's
not
right
away
issue
or
whatever
the
law
is
not
going
to
change
based
on
markings.
I,
understand.
G
W
It's
a
safety
issue
to
me
I'm
going
to
have
people
out
in
front
of
my
office
as
it
stands
right
now
many
times
with
some
of
my
older
clients,
I
have
to
walk
outside
with
them.
I
have
to
get
out
into
the
middle
of
the
road
and
stop
traffic,
so
they
can
back
out
safely.
Now,
if
that's
four
cars,
imagine
what
it's
going
to
be
like
for
cyclists
coming
around
that
corner,
really
quick
and
what
I'm
asking
is.
A
G
F
R
Tom
Lix
125
Live,
Oak,
Road,
Aiken
I'm,
also,
chairman
of
the
Aiken
County
bicycle
pedestrian,
Advisory
Committee.
First
of
all,
share
the
lane
markings.
It's
not
it's
not
a
bike
lane,
therefore,
and
bye-bye.
The
design
guides
that
these
will
be
installed
by
they're
spaced
about
every
every
200
feet
and
they're
in
the
in
the
lane
designating
a
location
where
bicycles
are
expected
to
ride.
In
the
case
where
there's
parallel
parking,
the
sharrows
would
be
far
enough
out
in
the
lane,
so
the
cyclist
is
not
in
the
door
zone.
R
So
somebody
opening
hard
or
will
not
impact
cyclists.
In
the
case
where
there's
head
in
parking,
the
Sherrill's
will
be
approximately.
In
the
center
of
the
lane
space
every
200
feet,
a
car
backing
out
is
going
to
have
to
look
and
be
just
as
cautious
as
they
would
when
they're
backing
out
from
motor
vehicle.
The
fact
is,
if
the
Sherrill's
are
not
in
the
lane
are
not
their
bicycle.
People
who
ride
bikes
are
still
going
to
be
in
n
lane.
They
still
ride
that
road.
R
As
you
stated,
the
purpose
of
the
sharrows
is
to
alert
motor
vehicle
operators
when
they're
coming
around
that
curve,
they've
seen
the
sharrows
spaced
at
the
irregular
intervals.
It
gives
them
the
alert
that
there
can
be
and
will
be
bicycles
in
the
road,
so
leaving
them
out
in
one
particular
location,
is
actually
going
to
increase
the
the
potential
and
reduce
the
the
safety
given
by
spacing
them
at
the
regular
interval
of
every
200
feet.
R
As
far
as
hey
Navin
ooo,
hey
Navin
ooo,
it
has
Cheryl's
coming
off
of
Richland
Avenue
up
to
the
point
where
it
widens
out
where
we
didn't
put
bike
lanes
in
the
bike
lanes
got
removed.
The
intent
is
to
restore
sharrows
in
that
portion
where
the
bike
lanes
got
removed.
So
we
would
have
a
continuous
route
off
of
Richland
Avenue
marked
with
sharrows
on
hain,
continuing
on
in
the
park
all
the
way
the
Union.
So
it's
a
it's
a
consistent
marking.
R
It
increases
safety
for
people
who
ride
their
bikes
any
way
along
there,
and
it's
all
part
of
the
of
the
the
overall
plan
to
create
connectivity
for
people
who
ride
bikes
in
the
city
of
Aiken,
and
it
just
so
happens
at
Park
Avenue
in
Hampton,
were
to
the
higher
priorities
that
we
can
cover
with
the
federal
dollars
that
we
have
access
to
and
and
it's
basically
the
limited
scope
that
we
can
accomplish.
While
I'm
here
I'll
also
say
that
one
moment
yeah.
R
You
can't
you
don't
want
to
open
up
and
leave
a
space.
That's
unmarked
once
you
start
marking
on
your
mark
them
every
200
feet.
Okay
and
I
will
say
that
a
lady
who
comment
about
sidewalks
on
Hampton,
the
bicycle,
pedestrian
Advisory
Committee
also
believes
we
need
sidewalks
there
and
we
have
recommended
sidewalks,
be
installed
there
and
taken
on
as
a
separate
project
can't
be
done
as
part
of
this
project,
because
it's
different
dollars
and.
W
Yes,
in
a
way
still
concerned
about
the
safety
issue,
pain
is
very
wide.
You
can
have
the
sharrows
there
and
you
come
down
to
right
where
pain
turns
onto
Park
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
of
you
have
ever
been
there.
That
space
is
very
limited.
I
realized
state
law
says
they
have
as
much
right
to
the
road
as
an
automobile
or
motor
vehicle.
W
However,
I
am
concerned
that
that
corner
which
people
fly
around
that
corner
all
the
time
and
fly
right
in
front
of
my
office
and
turn
the
corner
on
Park,
going
in
the
300
block
up
towards
Lawrence,
it's
a
very
dangerous
area.
It
really
is,
and-
and
it's
my
concern
that
if
these
sharrows
are
put
in
there,
this
would
obviously
now
not
be
close
to
the
curb.
W
It
would
not
be
near
the
current
parking
it
would
be
out
in
the
middle
of
the
road
from
what
I'm
hearing
I
just
I
wish
just
be
aware
that
there
it
is
a
dangerous
situation
and
I'm
concerned
that
motor
vehicle
operators
are
not
going
to
be
that
concerned
with
bicyclists
and
having
that
in
that
area
it's
dangerous.
I.
W
Also
I
heard
him
say,
of
course,
this
is
going
to
be
an
extension
of
what
was
already
started
on
Haines
Avenue
I
understand
all
that
we
all
know
what
happened
last
year
when
all
of
this
came
up,
it
was
not
well
liked
by
the
neighbors.
I,
certainly
am
concerned
about
the
safety
issue,
I'm
just
telling
us
my
concerns
well,.
A
T
G
N
T
B
X
Hi
I'm
Betty,
Ryberg
I'm,
also
on
the
bicycle,
pedestrian,
Advisory,
Commission
and
I
just
like
to
address
the
business
concern
first,
which
that
no
parking
will
be
lost.
I
think
that
everybody
here
understands
that
we
are
also
pro-business.
The
second
thing
that
Mike
to
address
my
Costigan's
is
sharrows
and
share
the
lanes
slow
down
traffic.
It's
just
the
visibility
and
the
sight
of
those
markers
really
does
slow
people
down.
X
So
I
think
that
that
where
he
is,
which
we're
very
familiar
with
I
think
he
will
see,
people
will
actually
slow
down,
not
a
cyclist,
not
a
person
on
a
bicycle.
Just
the
actual
Chereau
slows
people
down.
That's
what
studies
show
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
parking,
the
people
that
are
way
down
on
Park
Avenue
by
the
railroad
museum
they
got
together,
and
they
were
actually
really
excited
about
this.
X
As
long
as
no
parking
was
lost,
one
thing
that
has
not
been
brought
up
and
I'm
good
friends
with
the
parks
family
for
40
years
I
have
kept
up
with
those
hit
their
children
who
are
our
children's
age.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
do
not
have
automobiles
in
this
town.
They
come
from
Vocalist
Road
and
one
of
the
things
that
kept
Bruce,
Duchess
wha,
keeping
his
piece
of
property
where
it
is,
is
because
people
could
walk
and
ride
their
bikes
and
go
to
work
there.
They
come
from
all
parts
of
the
city.
X
There
is
no
safe
place
to
drive
on
whiskey,
Road
ride
your
bike
on
whiskey
Road,
but
you
can
ride
your
bark
safely
to
Bruce's
field
down
Park
Avenue,
and
if
we
are
able
to
drive
in
a
car
and
get
to
work,
somebody
that
walks
and
also
rides
a
bicycle
to
get
to
work
should
be
safe
as
well.
So
I
ask
you
to
consider
those
routes
as
the
safest
routes
from
people
to
come
if
they
want
have
employment
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.