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From YouTube: Aiken Planning Commission Meeting: October 10 2017
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A
A
A
When
you
are
wishing
to
make
a
statement,
if
you
would
come
up
to
the
podium
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
after
you
finish
your
comments,
if
you
would
just
pause
for
a
moment
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
the
commissioners
once
the
all
folks
who
want
to
be
heard
have
been
heard,
then
it
will
come
back
to
the
Commission
for
a
vote
and
let
me
be
real
clear.
We
are
a
recommending
body
to
City
Council.
A
So,
if
you're
here
on
behalf
of
an
application,
if
we
approve
it,
we
are
approving
a
recommendation
to
Council
and
council
will
have
the
final
vote.
So
you
may
want
to
attend
the
council
meeting
at
which
agenda
it'll
be
all
right.
So
let
us
begin.
Our
first
item
of
business
is
the
minutes
of
the
September
12th
work
session
and
the
regular
meeting-
and
these
are
extremely
brief,
so
I
know
all
of
you
have
had
a
chance
to
review
them.
Are
there
any
changes
or
Corrections
or
additions
to
be
made?
B
A
All
right,
all
in
favor
all
right
will
now
move
to
application,
a
which
the
applicant
is
Charita
H
grant.
The
location
is
533,
East,
pine
log
Road,
and
this
is
a
request
for
annexation.
Its
application
18-2
zero,
zero,
zero
five
is
there
anyone
present
who
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
application.
B
C
A
Our
next
application
item
B
on
your
agenda
is
application.
18-6,
zero,
zero,
zero
one.
It's
a
rezone
request.
The
applicant
is
Sheila.
How
des
us
I
hope,
I
haven't
missed,
pronounced
that
terribly
the
owner
is
currently
Joe
and
Gladys
Norman.
The
current
zone
is
RS
8
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
Oh.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
application.
D
After
researching
some
of
their
rezoning
choices,
I
picked
office
because
I
need
to
be
able
to
have
a
parking
lot,
because
a
lot
of
my
clients
are
older
and
I,
didn't
when
I'm
walking
on
dirt
and
all
that.
So
that's
why
I
had
to
choose
between
limited
professional
and
office,
and
that's
why
I
went
with
office.
D
A
G
A
A
Okay
and
our
next
item
is
application:
18,
a
zero,
zero,
zero
six
Frank
annexation
item
18,
two:
zero:
zero,
zero,
seven
for
annexation
and
18-6
zero,
zero,
zero,
two
for
rezoning
and
18,
two:
three:
zero:
zero
concept
plan:
the
applicant
is
Paul
Simon's
jr.,
the
owner,
Marsha
T
Hopkins
and
Swan
Works
LLC
for
the
rezone
and
concept
plan.
Location
is
Owen,
Street
and
whisky
Road.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
application.
H
Paul
Simon's
nine
one,
five
Whitney
drive
Aiken
to
ninety
two:
three:
here's
the
agent
for
Swan,
Works,
LLC
and
Marshall
Hopkins.
This
involves
the
base
on
whiskey
road,
where
the
existing
Aiken
motorcycle
sales
and
services,
and
in
behind
that
which
is
the
old
skating
rink,
because
I've
known
it
to
be
the
project
is
for
the
development
of
a
36,000
square
foot,
Lidl
grocery
store,
which
would
essentially
be
in
the
same
location
as
where
the
skating
rink
is,
except
back,
maybe
a
little
further
but
approximately
the
same
location.
H
H
The
developer
is
gone,
but
we
feel
above
and
beyond
where
they
could.
They
do
have
for
access
points.
They've
set
aside
portions
of
the
rear
of
the
property
for
a
future
through
Road,
which
is
noted
on
the
concept
plan
there
and
you'll
notice.
They
also
have
reserved
space
on
the
southern
boundary
line
for
a
expansion
of
the
Owen
Street
right-of-way,
and
we
think
the
the
potential
for
any
traffic
impacts.
C
I
We
studied
every
access
point.
We
had
three
access
point.
Sorry
with
the
fourth
access
point
was
through
a
needs
into
the
Walmart
and
the
back
access.
The
future
was
not
analyzed
the
see
Owens
Street
had
access
some
one,
so
the
internal
access,
no
its
own
Street,
is
operating
at
level
service,
A's
and
B's,
which
is
really
small
delays,
12
seconds
ability
per
vehicle
which,
if
you're
looking
at
a
grading,
that's
that's
great,
especially
uncivilized
that
would
operate
capably
is.
I
I
I
Yeah
so
whenever
I
say
for
this
create
a
greater
part
of
this,
the
level
service
a
is
about
10
seconds
or
less
of
delay.
Okay,
so
that's
two
per
vehicle
B
ranges
from
I'll
call
it
ten
to
twenty
I'll.
Give
you
the
signal
eyes,
because
that's
still
in
order
of
us
yeah,
oh
they're,
10
to
20
C
is
20
to
35
D
35
to
55.
He
is
55
to
80
and
that's
greater
than
80
and
then
at
an
uncivilised.
An
F
is
greater
than
50
seconds
of
delay
per
vehicle.
I
So
we're
with
that
with
the
improvements
that
we're
recommending
it's
the
maximum
level
of
improvements
that
we
can
do
without
doing
a
traffic
7
weather
traffic,
so
it
wouldn't
be
warranted.
So
we
wouldn't
consider
it
there
for
recommendation
purposes
and
in
in
the
traffic
world
having
a
side
street
with
level
service
F
in
the
the
62nd
range
is
is
expected
when
you
have
a
lot
of
throughput
like
on
a
like
on
a
road
like
whiskey
row.
That's
a
it's
an
expectation.
E
I
Did
not
consider
people
cutting
through
the
Walmart
to
get
there
now
people
who
are
familiar
with
the
area?
That's
not
to
say
that
they
won't
do
that.
But
we
didn't
consider
that
because
that's
not
like
you're
saying
just
too
recognizable.
Okay,
that's
how
I'm
gonna
get
to
the
site,
but
they
could
do
it.
But
we
considered
it
hard
to
not
consider
it
in
the
study.
Probably.
I
I
G
C
As
someone
who
goes
to
a
can
motorcycle
frequently
I
know
that
if
I'm
coming
north
and
I'm
gonna
take
a
left,
I
have
to
wait
for
that
light.
I've
got
to
wait,
I'm
looking
down
the
street
for
that
light
to
turn
red.
Oh,
it's
turning
red
hope,
no
one's
taking
a
ride
out
of
Walmart.
Oh
no,
that
guy!
So
that's
not
an
easy
place
to
take
a
left.
It's
not.
J
I
Reflects
multiple
times
so
we
did
an
AM
peak
hour.
So
we
do
traffic
counts
from
7
to
9
a.m.
to
capture
the
peak,
and
then
we
do
traffic
counts
from
4
to
6.
So
we
take
the
highest
peak
hour
between
those
time
periods,
count
it
and
then
we'll
put
background
growth,
which
is
a
2
percent
annual
growth
on
what's
already
there
today.
I
So
we
said
2%
for
2
years,
assuming
a
site
build-out
of
2019,
and
on
top
of
that
we
added
an
approved
development,
which
was
the
multifamily
site
off
of
Owens,
and
then
on
top
of
that
we
add
our
site
traffic,
and
so
these
numbers
I'm,
giving
you
are,
is
considering
all
that.
So
it's
considering
existing
background
growth
and
approved
development,
our
site
and
those
are
the
numbers
that
I'm
getting
out,
and
so
it's
considering
what
the
peak
peak
hour
is
so
the
highest
volumes
that
we
saw
was.
C
Mr.
planning
director,
this
might
predate
you
I,
do
have
a
question,
and
maybe,
madam
chairman,
you
could
help
me
to
that
new
roads
supposed
to
be
going
in
back
there
and
I
think
we've
all
anticipated
that
and
when
we
approved
the
apartment,
complex,
I,
think
I
don't
know
well
speaking
for
myself,
I
don't
know
if
I
would
have
voted.
Yes
had
that
road
not
be
coming
through
to
keep
some
of
that
traffic
off
of
dougherty
road
and
going
north
and
so
forth.
C
K
And
just
to
kind
of
follow
up,
I,
think
kind
of
back
to
your
question.
There
was
a
Doherty
Road
study
that
was
done
once
a
2012-2013
and
roughly
in
that
range
that
did
identify
traffic
alternatives
as
a
effective
way
of
relieving
the
traffic
pressure
on
Dougherty
Road
specifically,
so
it
was
a
general
way
to
try
to
get
really
even
in
an
increased
level
of
service
by
providing
traffic
options
again
more
outlets
for
traffic
instead
of
funneling
them
into
one
location.
C
L
Connor
prep
instructor
of
real
estate
for
Aledo
us
3500,
South,
Clark
Street
in
Arlington
Virginia.
All
these
I
mean
I
can't
speak
to
a
specific
square
footage,
but
all
these
to
me
very
varied
from
12,000
to
16,000
square
feet.
A
large
store
will
be
36,000
square
feet
so
we're
usually
at
least
double
the
size.
Okay,.
C
A
Well-
and
you
know,
we
do
need
to
think
about
that
particular
area
of
whiskey
down
toward
the
mall.
You
know,
we've
we've
heard
a
lot
of
concerns
about
congestion
and
y'all.
Remember
when
the
Krispy
Kreme
came
in
that
everybody
said
it
was
just
an
awful
bottleneck,
but
you
know
conventional
wisdom
says
it
is
initially
while
people
check
it
out,
but
after
that
initial
period,
it's
it's
not
an
issue
there
anymore.
A
C
D
F
F
G
G
That's
not
unusual
to
find
50
cars
at
various
times
of
the
day,
so
I
hope
that
this
will
be
used
mainly
off
for
whiskey
and
and
back
through
the
Walmart
you're
right
people
come
into
Walmart
coming
from
the
south
side,
the
final
off-road
area.
They
don't
go
to
whiskey,
they
cut
back
in
through
there
and
work
their
way
back
past
up
past
Academy
Sports
and
me
not
Academy.
Yeah
I
can't
work
that
way
back
in
there
through
Walmart.
A
G
A
J
K
By
the
way
we
end
up
doing
like
the
various
agreements
related
to
these,
we
would
like
to
see
the
annexation
portions
of
the
applications
separated
out.
This
is
a
separate
motion
because
they
typically
don't
have
the
same
conditions
place
on
them
as
the
reasoning
in
the
concept
plan.
So
I
think
you
could
probably
get
it
probably
separate.
J
Madam
chairman,
with
that
said,
then,
on
application,
18-2,
zero,
zero,
zero,
six,
an
annexation
request
and
number
18,
two
zero,
zero,
zero,
seven,
an
annexation
request.
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
forward
this
to
City
Council
and
approve
it
based
on
several
different
things
and
you'll
have
to
be
a
little
patient
with
me.
I
apologize
that
I
feel
that,
and
this
is
coming
from
the
document
that
we
have,
that
the
plan
commercial
zoning
that
City
Council
has
adopted
in
the
past.
J
This
would
be
consistent
with
that
that
the
Whiskey
Road
corridor
would
be
a
pc
or
p
or
zoning,
and
that
this
actually
is
a
feeder
to
that.
So,
and
I
feel
like
that's
the
frontage
of
that
particular
establishment
for
the
proposal,
one
that
would
come
out
after
or
potentially
through
the
next
voting,
also
that
it
would
be
compliant
with
the
plan,
commercial
visions
that
we
currently
have
on
him
and
actually
in
the
rezoning
of
that.
J
If,
in
fact,
we
got
it
voted
into
the
city
vacant
that
it's
my
understanding
of
what
these
folks
want
to
do
with
it
would
be.
Inconsistent
would
be
consistent
with
that.
So,
as
far
as
the
annexation,
we'll
both
to
zero
zero
six,
two
zero
zero,
seven
I'd
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
it
and
recommend
the
City
Council
its
approval.
F
G
G
A
A
J
Madam
chairman,
on
that
one
on
18600
to
the
rezoning
and
on
23
there's
our
to
the
concept
plan,
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
would
recommend
it
favorably
to
City
Council
with
the
following
stipulations,
and
also
the
fact
that
I
believe
it
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
that
we
currently
have
that
the
zoning
and
the
conforming
uses
of
nearby
properties
that
are
in
that
area.
So
it
would
be
basically
the
same
into
the
character
of
that
surrounding
area
and
that
also
that
my
approval
would
include
those
four
entrances
minimum
of
those
four
entrances.
J
If
I
can
add
that,
because
I
feel
that
traffic
is
a
concern,
it
will
be
concerning
people
down
there,
but
I
believe
those
four
entrances
will
hopefully
based
on
the
information
we
received
tonight
would
satisfy
that
and
then
also
the
criteria
that
we
have
been
provided,
which
would
include
one
through
six.
On
pages.
C
J
I
think
that,
having
listened
to
someone,
that's
a
whole
lot
smaller
than
I,
am
on
traffic
and
does
that
for
a
living.
The
fact
that
we've
identified
clearly
that
there'll
be
multiple
entrances.
The
fact
that
other
grocery
stores
on
whiskey,
Road
and
there's
a
couple
I'll
have
approximately
4
or
less
interested
into
them.
I
feel
like
that.
J
I
mean
the
light
at
Walmart
I,
don't
normally
see
more
than
a
few
cars
one
or
two
three
cars,
maybe
at
the
most
backing
up
at
the
exit
or
the
egress
out
of
Walmart,
and
if
those
are
two
connected
in
that
road
that
we've
identified
that
mr.
moehner
spoke
about.
If,
in
fact,
that
is
connected
back
out
to
Daughtery
Road,
you
know
your.
J
J
If
you
came
around
the
gas
pump
to
Kroger
more
than
one
on
whiskey,
because
you'd
have,
if
you
came
in
through
Home
Depot
and
then
maybe
one
from
the
side
street,
where
the
other
side
were
Home
Depot
is
so
that
would
be
five,
but
that
would
be
no
different
than
this
application.
Where
they're
saying
there
could
be
four
or
more
based
on
parking
lot
access,
and
that
comes
tough.
That's
how
I
come
across
that
okay.
J
J
G
G
J
H
M
H
J
B
B
N
H
H
N
E
G
N
G
Let's
not
get
ourselves
if
Walmart
can
shut
it
off,
they
might
shut
it
off
I'm,
not
saying
they
will
or
won't
I.
Don't
know.
Walmart's
big
boy,
I
mean
you
know:
they're
gonna
do
what
they're
gonna
do,
but
I
would
like
to
have
as
much
information
that
we
can
guarantee.
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
thing
is
open,
because
I
think
that's
significant
I,
don't.
N
A
The
bottom
line
is,
the
traffic
study
is
based
on
ingress
and
egress.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
point
we're
discussing
this
out.
So
in
I
mean
it's.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
that
additional,
but
it
isn't
going
having
it
or
not
having
it
is
not
going
to
alter
the
results
of
the
traffic
study.
Is
that
not
that's.