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A
B
B
B
B
So
again,
and
that's
primarily,
though
it's
a
little
misleading,
because
some
of
those
partials
are
really
big.
I
will
say
that
some
of
those
1300
parcels,
particularly
up
and
down
edgefield
highway
and
columbia,
highway
north
there
and
even
around
the
beltway.
Some
of
those
are
pretty
big
parcels
that
could
be
divided
up
into
other
types
of
development.
B
We've
kind
of
on
on
a
single
case
basis
been
providing
them.
With
this
information
with
a
targeted,
mailer,
saying,
hey,
we
think
you
can
benefit
by
being
in
the
city.
Please
contact
us
so
some
of
the
things
that
you've
seen
come
through
as
annexations
have
been
required
by
the
city
council
policy.
Others
have
been
voluntary
based
on
some
of
our
targeted
contacts,
but
we've
kind
of
worked
in
a
few
specific
areas
and
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
second
as
well.
B
You
can
kind
of
see
the
the
one-time
fees
that
could
be
associated
with
with
connections
if
you
had
to
connect
just
from
the
bad.
You
know
very
rarely.
We
have
a
case
where
it'd
be
you
know
mostly.
I
said
if
we're
looking
at
inhabited
annexations,
you
wouldn't
have
the
full
sixteen
hundred
dollars.
You
know
one-time
fees,
but
you
might
have
the
the
sewer
impact
fee
to
connect,
as
well
as
the
roll
cart
fees.
B
B
E
A
B
E
B
We
are
already
charging
them
a
base,
sewer
rate,
typically
just
for
having
sewer
available
and
and
that
that's
just
again,
that's
kind
of
the
bottom
line
rate,
but
yeah.
If,
if
a
property
is
working
off
of
a
septic
say
if
it's,
if
it
is
working
off
a
septic
system,
then
d
heck
and
in
conjunction
with
the
city,
typically
works
with
them
to
be
able
to
operate.
That
system
until
which
time
it
may
fail,
and
then
they
would
generally
be
required
to
connect.
A
B
Right
and
then
those
cases
I
mean
so,
if
we're
looking
at
like
pursuing
an
annexation
policy
where
you're
trying
to
get
somebody
to
annex
like
as
if
you're
trying
to
get
frankly,
if
you're
trying
to,
I
guess,
promote
somebody
to
annex
now
those
cases
where
somebody
has
water
and
sewer
and
irrigation
to
the
city
limits
I
mean
those
are
those
are
situations
where
they're
gonna,
just
they're
gonna
have
to
they're.
Not
gonna,
really
have
much
other
choice
in
that.
B
B
B
It
so
let
me
yeah,
let
me
move
forward
here,
just
a
second
kind
of
I
just
again.
I
tried
to
kind
of
lay
this
out
as
best
I
could
maybe
logically
on
what
you
know,
types
of
things
we're
looking
at
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
target
property
owners
where
they
have
water
and
sewer
and
where
the
assessed
value
is,
is
350
000
less.
So
these
are
people
who
already
hooked
onto
the
system,
but
they're
still
they're
still
out
in
the
county
right.
So
those
are
typically
single
properties.
B
They're,
you
know
they're
they're,
they're
kind
of
scattered
site,
you
think
about,
like
the
gym
lakes,
donut
holes
and
a
few
other
cases
like
that.
True,
like
single
one,
two
property
doughnut
holes
or
people
directly
adjacent
to
the
city
limits
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
work
to
target
those
folks
on
a
property
property
basis.
I
agree
with
that.
B
So
there
are
a
few
cases
where
we
also
have
donut
holes
where
the
neighborhood
has
water
and
sewer
and
they're
contiguous
to
the
city
limits,
or
at
least
somebody
in
that
neighborhood
is
contiguous
to
the
city
limits.
Now.
Remember
me
telling
you
that
number
is
about
400,
we
think
kind
of
within
the
sphere
of
influence
of
the
city.
B
I
can
identify
about
a
quarter
of
those
in
just
a
few
neighborhoods
and
I
think
if
we
may,
it
may
benefit
us
again.
These
are
folks
that
are
already
on
the
systems
generally
and
are
in
paying
some
form
of
race.
So
here's
here's
one.
For
instance
this
is
you
see,
town
creek
road
coming
here
from
the
north,
so
up
at
the
top
of
the
screen
off
the
map
here
is
is
well.
B
Let
me
go
back
is
is
pine
log
road
and
then
this
is
where
town
creek
turns
and
starts
to
head
towards
silver
bluff
there
at
the
bend,
elmwood
drive
so
there's
15
parcels
there
that
are
adjacent
to
the
city.
Limits
are
hooked
onto
city
sewer,
but
we
haven't
annexed
them.
So
that's
one
case
where
you
know
it
seems
like
it.
It
would
be,
it
makes
sense
to
approach
them
for
for
annexation.
B
B
Okay,
it
now.
The
other
thing
is,
this
is
a
little.
This
is
a
little
more
of
a
reach,
but
it's
look
at
policies
to
expand
to
or
into
donut
holes
and
try
to
make
it
more
of
a
benefit
to
for
them
to
connect.
So
so,
for
instance,
me
mentioning
those
five.
You
know
four
to
five
thousand
units
in
kind
of
the
briar
cliff
gen,
the
greater
briar
cliff
area.
B
Again
this
is
pine
log
road
to
the
north
and
then
kind
of
town,
creek
kind
of
cuts,
bisection
cuts
down
the
middle
of
it.
For
instance,
this
is
400
parcels
that
are
essentially
surrounded
by
the
city
on
three
or
more,
almost
almost
completely
surrounded
by
the
city,
but
we
just
don't
have
sewer
in
the
area.
So
it's
it's
that's
the
main
reason
it's
kind
of
remained
a
donut
hole.
These
are.
These
are
ones
that
you
know
we
can
approach
them,
but
generally,
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
B
It's
going
to
be
hard
for
us
to
make
a
case
on
an
annual
basis.
They're
not
going
to
be.
You
know
they're
not
going
to
be
saving
money
on
an
annual
basis
by
annexing
into
the
city.
They
might
want
the
services
and
things
like
that,
and
we
generally
try
to
pitch
that,
but
financially
it
and
the
other
one
is
kind
of.
B
I
guess
you
know
fairly
well
known
as
this
tamiya
area
again
another
800
to
1000
parcels
in
here
that
are
again
not
100,
surrounded
but
mostly
surrounded
by
city,
the
peninsula
that
sticks
down
into
the
city.
That's
you
know
it's
just
never!
You
know,
we've
just
never
made
it
a
priority
to
run
sewer
to
these.
Now
again,
that's
probably
the
most
costly
and
and
a
little
more
controversial,
because
then
you're
going
to
cause
people
to
force
to
eventually
hook
on.
B
B
You
know
we
we
talked
it
could
take
generally
two
to
five
years,
maybe
to
recoup
some
of
the
costs
associated
with
that.
These
are
so
they
have
access
to
sewer,
but
they're
not
connected
to
sewer
again
that
that
is
the
connection
fees
on
our
side.
But
a
lot
of
it's
also
connected
fees.
Like
you
said
the
the
the
couple
thousand
dollars
you're
going
to
spend
to
plumb.
Your
house
to
you
know,
hire
a
contractor
to
do
that.
B
B
We
not
specifically,
but
I
think
I'm
I'm
also
looking
at
john
here.
I
think
we
have
areas
that
we
know
based
on
when
the
house
was
built,
probably
about
how
old
some
of
those
septic
systems
are
right,
and
I
think
you
know
those
those
areas
that
we
kind
of
pointed
out
the
kami
area
and
the
the
I
guess,
the
kind
of
briar
cliff
neighborhood.
E
Yeah
there
are
some
neighborhoods
that
are,
you
know
not,
I
guess
not
immediately
in
the
city
vacant
but
close
by
that
are
on
septic,
but
generally
these
these
things
are
kind
of
looked
at
as
a
case-by-case
basis.
You
know
we
haven't.
Had
anybody
come
to
us
as
a
group
saying
we
want
you
to
provide
sewer
to
our
neighborhood
and
that
would
kind
of
you
know
kick
off
a
project
if
you
know
at
least
to
look
at
the
feasibility
for
that.
E
If
they
did
most
of
it's
been,
you
know
kind
of
like
independent
homeowners
that
come
and
say
hey.
I
have
a
failings,
septic
system
and
do
you
have
sewer
available?
And
you
know
we
look
at
what
assets
we
have
and
if,
if
they're
within
reach,
if
they
are
we'll
talk
to
them
about
the
connection
fees-
and
you
know
when
you
start
looking
at
the
connection
fees
versus
the
the
the
the
cost
of
repair,
the
the
septic
tank.
E
A
B
Right
so
I
think
then
you
know
if
we're.
If
we
are
not,
I
guess,
then,
that's
that's
why
we
kind
of
have
the
sex
bullet
point
in
here
where
we
do
look
at
the
financial
incentives.
You
know
if
you
have,
if
you
have
properties
where
they
may
be
in
that
situation,
where
they
have
a
failing
septic
system
and
they're
adjacent
to
city
sewer,
we
can
probably
kind
of
enumerate
over
time.
B
Maybe
maybe
something
people
might
take
a
short
term
gain
there
for
the
for
the
purposes
of
annexing
into
the
city,
and-
and
you
know
getting
a
you
know,
if
it
may,
you
know
there
might
be
a
financial
incentive
available
there,
but
again
it's
kind
of
it's
got.
I
think
it
may
have
to
be
enough
to
make
them.
B
You
know
you
know
occasionally
run
into
somebody
who's
in
this
situation.
That
just
wants
a
you
know.
They
want
the
city's
trash
and
refuse
service
and
and
yard
debris
pick
up,
and-
and
we
actually
had
a
couple
of
those
come
through
the
last
couple
months,
where
somebody
they
didn't
have
sewer,
but
they
wanted
to
hook
on
the
city,
city,
water
and
annex
I
mean
sorry,
they
already
hooked
on
city
water.
B
They
wanted
to
annex,
they
didn't
have
sewer,
but
they
wanted
the
services,
so
those
cases
are
out
there
and
I
think
we
continue
to
reach
out
to
them,
but
I
do
think
it
becomes
kind
of
a
more
difficult
sell
on
you
know:
a
large
bulk,
like
70
percent
75,
sorry
annexation,
method,
kind
of
annexation.
I
think
this
is
again
kind
of
where
we
may
be
nibbling
at
the
edge
to
try
to
try
to
get
those
in.
B
Those
are
kind
of,
I
guess,
the
only
logical
recommendations
that
I
had
looking
at
this
and
and
I'm
kind
of
looking.
You
know,
we've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
and
I
I
you
know
be
glad
to
take
any
feedback
from
the
board
the
commission
about
whether
you
think
I'm
missing
out
on
anything
that
may
incentivize
somebody
or
a
method
of
kind
of
approaching
folks
that
that
would
be
effective
in
trying
to
persuade
them
to
to
annex
again.
B
I
I
think
when
we
make
the
case
on
the
on
the
those
folks
that
those
property
owners
that
do
have
water
and
sewer
and
have
a
certain
valuation
of
property,
we
can
definitely
make
a
case,
and
I
think
we
should
probably
reach
out
and
try
to
fill
in.
You
know
if
there's
a
whole
neighborhood
or
a
whole
street.
I
think
we
should
probably
reach
out
and
try
to
try
to
get
them
get
them
in
as
a
whole,
but
I
think
those
cases
are
a
little
bit
more
limited
than
meets
the
eye.
B
I
think
we
see
these
donut
holes
and
things,
but
there's
a
you
know
a
lot
of
times
that
there
is
water
and
sewer
available
to
all
these,
but
in
most
cases
there's
that
we
found
that
there's
really
not
a
lot
of
people
just
have
water
in
these
donut
holes,
but
they
don't
have
sewers.
So
then
it
kind
of
comes
down
to
is
there
a
financial
way,
maybe
or
some
other
benefit
that
we
can
provide
them
to
incentivize
them
into
into
joining
the
city.
C
I
have
a
comment
just
on
on
two
of
the
possibilities.
The
first
one
would
probably
be
the
the
lowest
hanging
fruit,
the
400
that
have
both
water
and
sewer.
Where
would
make
the
most
financial
sense
for
them
to
join
and
what's
keeping
them
away?
Is
that
connection
fee?
I
know
that
we've
spoken
about
this
before
on
our
work
sessions.
I
also
know
that
going
back
to
the
joint
session
that
we
have
this
city
and
this
planning
commission
we
talked
about
either
waiving
those
fees
or
reducing
those
fees.
C
I
think
to
get
those
400
people
in,
and
you
know
basically
pluck
that
low
hanging
fruit,
which
would
almost
be
10
of
our
total
donut
holes,
either
reducing
it
or
outright
waving.
It
might
be
a
quick
way
to
get
them
in
moving
forward
to
kind
of
cover
a
lot
of
the
others.
I
think
investing
in
sewer
within
our
city
limits
within
the
donut
holes
might
be
the
best
thing
to
do.
I
mean,
unless
I'm
mistaken,
the
city's
you
know
in
the
process
already
has
run
water
and
sewage
all
the
way
past
I-20.
C
B
B
I
can
point
out,
you
know
several
donut
holes
in
my
off
off
the
top
of
my
head
right
now
that
you
know
you
just
have
you
don't
have
enough
homes
in
one
location
to
warrant
the
cost
of
creating
a
lift
station
for
everybody
to
be
able
to
pump
up
to
a
line,
but
there
are
probably
some
areas
that
we
just
kind
of
stopped
running
sewer.
That
may
be
more
of
a
gravity
situation,
but
it's
it
would
take.
I
I
don't
think
we've
done
an
assessment
of
those.
E
You
know
deep
sewer
over
here,
but
you
don't
get
benefit
for
over
here,
because
you're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
run
it
that
deep,
the
entire
way
to
get
back
over
to
these
houses,
so
they
usually
go
pretty
deep
like
in
that
we
got
some
trunk
mains
to
sand
river.
You
know
it
goes
out
towards
dibble
road
and
crawf
mill,
but
but
basically,
once
you
start
getting
out
to
the
collection
system,
there's
some
deep
areas,
but
as
a
rule
of
thumb,
it's
pretty
pretty
shallow.
E
So
a
lot
of
the
areas
that
we
have
now
sewer
service
is
due
to
lift
stations.
So
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
lift
stations
already.
But,
like
was
ryan's
point
is
you
know,
a
lift
station
to
pick
up
an
additional
three
houses
or
additional
you
know
cul-de-sac,
sometimes
it
just.
It
would
never
recoup
its
cost.
E
B
So
I
have
one
more
thing
here:
I
kind
of
wanted
to
share.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
residences,
but
we
haven't
really
talked
about
the
business
side
of
things,
so
businesses
have
a
whole
different
calculation
about
how
they
they
pay
for
water
and
sewer
rates
in
the
city.
But
I
ran
one
for
a
business
or
potential
business
here,
fairly
recently
and
they're
on
the
fence.
They,
you
know
they
they
they
were
fairly
close
to
sewer,
but
maybe
not
had
direct
access
to
sewer.
B
So
they
were,
they
were
inquiring
about,
you
know
being
in
the
city
versus
out
of
the
city,
and
so
here's
kind
of
what
some
of
that
that
looked
like
again,
we
shared
these
sheets
with
you
at
the
beginning,
but
here's
kind
of
the
main
thing
is
that
they're.
This
is.
This
is
a
a
a
business,
for
instance,
that
has
a
half
million
dollar
valuation
assessed
value.
B
It's
one,
one
acre
in
size.
We
we
have
our
minimum
20
green
space
requirement,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that
goes
into
calculating
this
so
based
on
just
taxes
and
fees.
Again,
this
is
not
not
with
sewer.
This
is
just
with
water
that
business
would
be
about
a
thousand
dollars
to
the
good
being
in
the
city.
B
I
think
once
I
do
that
we
can
kind
of
better
discuss,
maybe
the
the
non-residential
side
of
things
and
just
for
a
comparison.
If
they
do
have
sewer,
that
number
gets
a
lot
better.
It's
like
three
thousand
dollars
a
year
based
on
kind
of
average
use
for
like
again.
This
is
a
this
is
an
office
this,
so
this
is
fairly
low
user.
So,
if
somebody's
you
know
a
user,
that's
got
a
higher
water
and
sewer
rate
usage.
B
I
think
the
benefit
would
be
even
higher
to
being
in
the
city
again,
there's
a
number
of
assumptions
that
have
to
go
along
with
this,
but
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
staff's
gonna
research
more
and
get
back
to
you
on
is
what
those
business
license.
Fees
look
like
for
different
kind
of
categories
of
businesses.
A
B
A
B
You
know
public
comments
on
that.
I
was
kind
of
hoping
that
we'd
get
around
to
being
meeting
in
person
again
in
case
there
were
anybody
who
wanted
to
come
and
speak
on
behalf
or
have
some
ideas
along
these
lines
and
then
be
able
to
forward
that
information
to
city
council,
and
I
think,
we'll
have
to
talk
it
through
with
them
at
some
length.
But
it's
it's.
We
had
a
budget
work
session
last
night
at
city
council.
We
have
the
last
three,
but
it
was.
B
A
A
B
Yeah,
that's
what
I
kind
of
want
to
get
your
feedback
on
is,
if
you're,
if
you,
if
you
kind
of
think
we
may
be
summarizing
things
in
the
right
direction,
we
can
try
to
put
that
in
more
of
a
report,
format
that
you
can
look
at
and
then
we
can
kind
of
take.
I
kind
of
before
I
did
that.
I
kind
of
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
this,
the
the
board
kind
of
thinks
that
staff
is
thinking
of
the
along
the
right
lines.
C
Yeah,
just
my
personal
opinion,
everything
that
we've
talked
about,
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track.
Why
not
put
pen
to
paper,
because
we
can
always
make
adjustments
at
the
next
meeting
as
far
as
what
we
actually
want
to
push
forward
the
city.
So
it's
not
even
like
the
recommendations
that
you'll
come
up
with
will
be.
You
know,
necessarily
the
final
draft.
That's
right.
A
A
B
B
D
F
D
A
A
A
The
first
one
is
an
annexation
request.
That's
on
marvin
drive,
that's
pretty
straightforward.
I
think
then
b
and
c
are
is
an
annexation
request
and
a
concept
plan
approval
request
on
a
senior
living
center
out
off
a
whiskey
road
before
you
get
before
you
get
to
the
hotel
right
before
you
get
to
the
holiday
inn,
it's
on
the
right.
B
Right-
and
I
know
we
have
some
folks
on
here-
and
I
I
and
they're
listening
so
this
is
just
to
kind
of
clarify
for
anybody
who's
who's
representing.
That
is
that
right
now
we're
just
kind
of
going
through
the
materials.
There
will
be
a
public
hearing
and
ability
to
discuss
later
at
the
next
meeting,
which
starts
at
six,
but
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
here
to
kind
of
just
talk
about
this
one,
real
quick.
B
I
will
say
that
you
did
get
a
couple
of
things
for
me
based
upon
you,
you
would
have
got
them
today.
So
if
you
have
not
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those,
I
can
kind
of
summarize
those.
So
we
have
a
single
family,
but
here
we
go
so
this
the
property.
It
would
be
divided
out
from
a
larger
property.
Now
this
is
as
again
as
you're
going
south
on
whiskey
road
yeah.
Here's
the
holiday
inn
express
the
adjacent
vacant
lot.
B
This
is
the
approximate
location
of
next
to
the
church,
essentially
where
five
acres
will
be
carved
out
for
approximately
60
units
of
senior
restricted
housing,
the
biggest
thing
from
staff's
point
of
view.
As
far
as
comments
we've
received
came
from
d.o.t
on
this
and
that
they
are
concerned
about
preserving
and
limiting
access
for
the
remainder
parcel
that
would
be
left
over,
they
want
it
to
be
shared
from
wine
court
and
from
this
they
they're
they're
they're.
Not
wanting
to
give
a
lot
of
curb
cuts,
dot's
not
wanted
to
provide
a
lot
of
curb
cuts.
B
So
the
largest
thing
for
staff
is
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
drive
for
this
gets
pushed
as
close
to
the
property
line,
as
we
can,
so
it
can
be.
Shared
they've
responded
with
a
kind
of
a
revised
concept
plan
that
that
just
shows
a
kind
of
revision
with
an
interpartial
connectivity
here,
that's
something
that
we
can
continue
to
work
through
through
the
site
plan
process.
If
this
is
annexed
and
approved
in
the
concept
level,.
C
A
Now,
yeah
that
seemed
to
be
addressed
in
the
recommendations
that
that
it
would
be
on
on
or
near
the
property
line.
So
we
don't
know,
I
guess
that
other
property
right
between
the
hotel
and
this
property
that
could
be
further
subdivided
too.
We
don't
know
that
there's
going
to
be
one
person
in
our
one
business
there
or
more
than
one
business
in
there.
B
That's
exactly
right,
so
some
of
the
comments
you
received
from
neighbors,
for
instance,
were
concerned
about
from
for
additional
access
onto
size.
I
mean
onto
stratford
drive
things
like
that.
I
think
a
lot
of
that
is
premature
right
now,
but
the
one
thing
that
we
do
know
is
that,
if
this
is
subdivided
dot
is
going
to
limit
the
number
of
curb
cuts
from
whiskey
road
into
that
property,
so
where
we
can
get
them
to
share
access
points
with
some
of
these
adjacent
parcels,
d.o.t
has
been
pushing
for
that.
B
No,
this
one
does
not,
so
this
would
be
divided
out
of
a
larger
parcel
that
does
so.
This
parcel
the
parcel
that
this
would
be
divided
from
wraps
all
the
way
around
back
behind
right
behind
the
hotel
behind
the
hotel,
but
this
is
divided
out
of
that.
The
adjacent
parcel
that
I'm
talking
about
that
will
be
a
remnant
parcel
from
this
does
not
have
a
concept
plan
that
is
part
of
this
application.
B
We
don't
we
do
know
in
talking
with
the
county
that
it
will
likely
be
and
with
vot
this,
this
will
likely
be
limited
to
a
single
access
point
as
well,
which
is
kind
of
again
crucial
to
to
kind
of
coordinate
that,
as
as
this
becomes
a
a
more
a
busier
stretch
of
road
in
this
community
east
pinelog
road.
The
bypass
all
the
way
around
continues
to
to
kind
of
increase
in
our
level
of
service
studies,
and
things
like
that.
B
So
we
would
access
management
from
us
from
the
managing
the
driveways
between
us
and
the
county
and
d.o.t
are
going
to
be
critical
to
be
able
to
maintain
traffic
flow
through
there,
but
it's
a
fairly
low
user.
We
are
going
to
need
to
kind
of
probably
look
once
we
get
into
the
site
plan
stage
with
the
county
you
do
have,
you
know,
tend
to
have
maybe
more
larger
vehicles
that
do
come
in
and
pick
up
different
landscaping,
materials
and
things
like
that.
B
G
Hey
ron,
this
is
john
dangerfield,
I'm
with
the
engineer.
That's
representing
carolina,
fresh
farms.
I
have
jason
gray
here
and
that's
what
you're
correct.
That's
the
sanitary
sewer
is
northwest
the
citizens
park
and
that's
what
we're
we
have
a
dhec
permit
in
hand
for
the
septic
system
on
site,
but
we're
here
to
address
any
questions.
You
have
you're
correct.
It's
a
very
low
volume.
We
just
did
it
looked
at
the
trip
generation
that
they
generate
on
site
at
their
existing
store,
that's
less
than
57
trips
per
day.
So
it
is
a
very
low
volume.
A
A
B
So
yeah
they
would
they
do.
They
are
not
contiguous
to
the
city,
but
they
are
requesting
water
and
sewer.
This
is
for
about
71
units.
These
are
close
to
half
acre
lot
so
they're
fairly
large
in
in
in
the
counties
zoning
in
that
area.
It's
not
a
large
enough
traffic.
These
are
so.
These
are
single-family
homes.
They're
generally
80
foot
wide
lots.
B
B
Water
is
in
is
immediately
available
to
the
property.
The
the
biggest
thing
here
is
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
you
know.
Chucker
creek
is
something
we're
gonna
have
to
keep
an
eye
on
with
the
county
over
time
and
continue
to
keep
an
eye
on
to
make
sure
that
the
flow
of
traffic
is
it
works
because,
as
anybody
knows
who
who,
who
is
in
the
chuckle
creek
school
district,
that
that's
kind
of
a
big
cul-de-sac,
checker
creek
road
essentially
is
there's
no
real
other
outlet
to
it.
B
B
However,
our
be
because
of
the
location
and
just
the
the
known
traffic
issues
are
a
transportation
engineer,
and
I
believe
the
county
is
in
this
in
the
same
position
in
d.o.t,
all
we
kind
of
got
our
heads
together
and
we
we
think
at
least
a
turn.
Lane
warrant
study
is
a
good
idea
there
again
to
get
people
kind
of
out
of
the
through
lanes,
if
necessary.
If
again,
if
it
warrants
it,
we
need
to.
We
would
like
to
take
a
look
at
that.
B
That's
right
so,
on
a
case-by-case
basis
like
this,
we
just
need
to
look
at
what
mitigation
may
be
available
to
get
again.
You
know
available
to
get
people
out
of
some
of
those
through
lanes
to
to
so
so
you
know
you
can't
get
through
as
people
look
to
turn
off
of
the
main
road
yeah.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
like
to
point
out
in
here-
and
this
is
something
that
I
think
you're
going
to
hear
from
the
applicant.
B
I
believe
they'd
like
to
request
a
waiver
of
that
from
the
the
board
and
city
council
due
to
the
generally
larger
lot
sizes
that
they
are
going
to
be
pursuing
for
this
kind
of
in
lieu
of
of
being
in
in
a
quantity
of
common
open
space.
They
they
they
feel
like
the
the
the
intent
of
that
may
be
met
by
just
the
kind
of
development
pattern
they're
proposing.
B
B
D
B
B
And
so
the
sewer
connection
is
somewhere
back
in
this
general
area.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
so
sooner
this
case,
it's
another
one
of
those
things,
it's
not
in
checker
creek
road.
It's
it's
it's
kind
of
down
it
kind
of
comes
down
through
whiskey,
road
and
kind
of
wraps
around
a
back
route
to
get
here
so.
B
A
B
They
may
it
may
just
not
be
you
know
they.
You
know
there
might
be.
There
might
be
some
ways
to
do
that,
but
I
think
they
feel-
and
I
would
defer
to
them,
that
during
the
public
hearing
portion
of
this
they
they
may
be
able
to
present
an
alternative
method
that
they
think
may
meet.
Some
of
the
intent,
such
as
you
know,
through
some
perimeter
buffering
and
things
like
that.
B
C
B
Or
could
they
be
so
it
kind
of
varies,
but
our
our
our
so
subdivisions
say
like
jim
lakes
is
our
rs15.
It
requires
a
15,
000
square
foot
lot
size.
A
lot
of
the
kind
of
the
newer
developments
are
kind
of
more
of
the
10
000
square
foot.
We
even
have
8
000
6
000
square
foot
lot
size
available
in
our
residential
single
family
district.
So
you
know
so.
If
you're
talking
about
it'd
be
kind
of
similar
to
an
rs15
district,
it
wouldn't
be.
H
D
A
H
B
Worry
about
it
and
we'll
have
either
paul
or
marianne
email,
you,
the
recusal
form,
and
you
can
fill
out
the
reason
why
okay,
thank
you,
and
so
just
kind
of
to
on
that.
We'll
probably
we'll
just
turn
off
your
your
microphone
and
your
you'll
you'll
kind
of
go
blank
for
that.
For
that
item,
that's
cool
those
will
just
hang
out
and
we'll
bring
you
back
in
when
when
that's
time.
Okay,.