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Athens Board of Zoning Appeals - June 8, 2021
A
A
President
tonight,
our
members,
ms
lisa
carson,
mr
john
good
against
and
mr
joe
krauss,
is
here,
but
he
will
not
be
a
voting
member
due
to
conflict
of
interest
and
alternates
are
mr
aaron
thomas
and
mr
robert
de
lac.
Both
of
them
will
be
voting
tonight.
A
I'm
john
golzi,
the
chair,
also
president,
are
a
zoning
administrator,
mr
david
riggs,
and
is
miss
jake
here.
A
B
A
Okay,
very
good.
The
board
operates
according
to
the
following
procedure.
The
chair
will
name
and
describe
the
case.
The
zoning
administrator
or
secretary
will
state
the
basis
of
the
objection
and
any
applicable
facts
or
conditions
pertaining
to
the
case.
The
applicant
or
their
representative
will
give
reason
why
the
appeal
should
be
viewed
favorably.
A
A
According
to
athens
city
code,
section
23,
703
b,
the
board
has
power
to
grant
variances
from
the
strict
application
of
the
code,
provided
the
variance
will
not
be
contrary
to
the
public
interest.
The
spirit
of
the
code
is
observed,
public
safety
and
welfare
are
secured
and
substantial
justice
is
done.
A
According
to
athens
city
code,
section
230710c
variances
from
the
code
shall
not
be
granted
unless
the
board
makes
specific
findings
of
fact,
based
directly
on
the
particular
evidence
presented
to
it
that
the
standards
and
conditions
imposed
in
this
title,
if
applicable,
have
been
met
by
the
applicant
and
the
six
criteria
that
we
will
discuss
in
detail
later.
But
they
are
exceptional
circumstances,
practical
difficulty
and
undue
hardship,
preservation
of
equal
property
rights,
minimum
variance,
absence
of
detriment
and
not
being
a
general.
A
Nature,
there's
only
one
case
on
tonight's
agenda
and
that's
the
property
at
63,
south
court
street.
The
board
is
required
to
take
testimony
under
oath.
Please
would
anyone
wishing
to
speak
concerning
any
item
on
the
agenda.
Please
unmute
your
microphone
and
respond.
Do
you
swear
or
affirm
that
any
testimony
you
will
present
to
the
board
will
be
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
B
A
Okay,
without
being
able
to
see
or
hear
everyone
and
the
appellants
and
their
representatives
and
those
who
will
speak
for
or
against
the
variants
are
assumed
that
they
are
on
the
road
all
right.
The
case
that
we
have
case
number
one
and
the
only
case
we
have
is
case
21-05
v-
it
is
63
south
courtesy
street
this
zone
is
b2d
and
rbc.
Architects
appellants
are
the
appellants
appellant
is
requesting
a
variance
from
acc
231001
table
b
off
street
parking
to
allow
zero
parking
spaces
where
40
parking
spaces
are
required.
C
Thanks,
mr
chair,
you
did
a
really
good
job
with
that.
The
the
20
efficiency
or
one
bedroom
apartments
are
are
units
that
that
we
have
in
the
code,
and
it
requires
us
to
to
have
two
off
street
parking
spaces
for
each
one
of
those
units.
So
the
20
units
would
require
40
off-site
parking
spaces
and
their
request
was
to
was
for
zero
parking
space.
Okay,.
A
B
Yes,
let
me
just
say
I
think
we're
going
to
have
some
questions.
I
don't
know,
mr
riggs,
if
you
have
information
about
data
on
the
rental
properties
in
the
uptown
area
or
the
b2d
district,
you
might,
if
you
have
access
to
that
information,
you
might
keep
it
handy.
I
would
think.
A
A
Let's
go
to
appellant
first
and
rvc
architects.
Would
you
like
to
state
your
name
and
your
address
for
the
records
and
your
case.
A
A
Yeah,
it's
the
list,
that's
on
his
yeah.
I
think.
Yes,
the
list
that
you
have
a
two-page
narration
here,
that
we
have
received
from
rvc
and
it
goes
through
all
the
findings
and
then
you
have
a
stated
five
different
properties,
and
we
will
discuss
that
when
we
get
to
that
point.
Okay
and
again,
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
comment
that
we
look
at
each
case
by
itself
on
its
own
merits,
and
we
don't
know
at
this
point.
I
don't
know
at
this
point
what
the
circumstances
were
for
those
five
properties.
A
A
A
Okay,
do
we
have
anyone
who's
likely
to
speak
in
in
general,
any
general
comment,
and
now
anyone
who
wants
to
speak
on
opposition
and
by
the
way
before
we
go
there.
I
also
have
a
couple
letters
that
I
like
to
read
into
the
records,
and
so
let's
hear
from
the
public
first
anything
that
you
would
like
to
say
and
then
I'll
be
reading
these
these
letters.
H
Okay,
my
name
is
john
wharton
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
as
a
past
president
of
downtown
business
owners
association
for
like
10
years,
and
I
want
to
convey,
I
guess,
my
concern
with
the
possibility
that
there'll
be
up
to
40
people
living
in
the
building
with
absolutely
no
parking
spaces
provided
anywhere
during
my
10
years
as
the
president
of
ayuba,
we
probably
spent
most
or
a
lot
of
our
time
discussing
parking
issues.
H
H
You
know
trying
to
create
parking
for
merchants
in
front
of
their
businesses,
which
they
felt
was
crucial.
I
had
been
a
landlord
for
41
years,
so
I
think
I
have
a
pretty
good
grasp
on
the
need
for
cars
or
the
need
for
parking.
H
We
either
own
or
manage
about
a
thousand
bedrooms,
and
I
assure
you
there
are
more
students
with
cars
today
than
their
than
there
has
been
in
the
41
years.
I've
been
a
landlord
now
to
say
that
they
all
need
their
car
every
day
is
foolish,
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
this
building
being
developed
and
my
fact
I
called
steve
patterson
six
months
ago
when
it
came
on
the
market
and
said
you
got
to
have
residential
on
the
second
third
floor.
H
H
H
Who
came
up
with
that?
I
don't
know,
okay,
so
that
that
is
ridiculous.
There's
got
to
be
some
provision
for
parking
to
be
relatively
close
to
the
building,
if
not
in
the
building,
not
one
spot
per
tenant,
necessarily
but
some
parking.
H
It
says
it's
practical
difficulty
to
have
parking
on
the
ground
floor
or
in
the
basement,
not
true.
There's
parking
in
the
basement
of
the
cvs
building,
there's
parking
in
the
basement
of
the
brennan's
building,
there's
parking
in
the
basement
of
the
bronies
building.
I
know
because
I
own
it
it's
just
that
it
costs
money
to
do
that
now.
H
H
I
know
that
they're
going
to
go
out
to
kroger
or
someplace
and
buy
groceries,
they'll,
unload
them
in
front
of
their
building
and,
of
course,
they're
going
to
say
that.
Well,
they
don't
get
parking
tickets
till
tomorrow,
we'll
just
leave
it
there
overnight.
Guess
what
next
thing
you
know
it's
nine
o'clock,
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
the
cars
are
still
there,
so
they
need
to
provide
parking,
that's
and
they
talk
about
the
ones
that
have
been
grandfathered.
H
If
you
go
down
to
preservation
of
equal
property
rights,
okay,
look
at
10,
west
union,
12,
west
union
and
16
west
union.
All
three
of
those
properties
were
devastated
by
a
fire.
They
were
an
eyesore
okay.
They
had
to
get
those
buildings
alive
again,
so
a
variance
was
granted,
but
they
were
already
residential.
They
just
rebuilt
them.
H
Okay,
the
14
high
street
that
they
point
out
already
was
grandfathered
for
parking.
My
son
owns
the
building
the
house.
He
took
occupancy
from
nine
down
to
seven,
so
he
reduced
the
density.
The
next
one
39
north
colleges
says
no
parking.
Space
is
required
where
a
minimum
of
eight
parking
spaces
were
required.
Not
true.
He
has
four
deed,
restricted
parking
spaces
to
that
property
on
congress
street
and
a
parking
lot
he
owns.
H
A
A
Thank
you,
mr
wharton.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition?
E
Brian
wharton
and
the
address
is
82.
North
court
is
the
uptown
address.
Okay
and
john
touched
on
a
lot
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
say
my
my
thing
is.
I
would
love
to
see
something
happen
to
with
the
building
it's
right
across
the
street
from
college
green
and
it's
important
that
someone
does
something
with
it,
but
to
not
have
any
parking.
E
It
just
reiterates
everything
he
just
said.
I'm
you
know,
I'm
concerned,
you
know
I've
seen
it
people
spending
the
night,
friends
girlfriends
boyfriends,
whatever
they
spend
the
night
and
they
think
that
you
know
they're
gonna
get
up
early
and
they
don't
get
up
early
and
I've
seen.
You
know
you
can
go
up
court
street
every
morning
and
see
the
tickets
on
cars,
and
this
just
encourages
more
congestion
up
there
and
businesses
like
he
mentioned.
E
I
just
bought
the
building
next
door
at
65
and
67
south
court
remodeling
that
now,
but
two
businesses
there
little
professor
court
street
coffee.
E
E
If,
if,
if
there's
friends
or
whomever
that's
spending
the
night-
and
it
will
happen
also
behind
the
building
at
67,
there
are
there's
parking
spots
behind
there
and
they're
gonna
look
out
their
window.
They're
gonna
see
that
hey
these
five
spots
aren't
used
from
six
at
night
till
seven
in
the
morning
and
then
they're
gonna
park
there
and
then,
when
the
employees
or
the
owners
of
those
businesses
come
there
to
park
their
car.
E
They're
gonna
have
someone
parking
in
their
spot,
and
you
know
it's
just
it's
a
headache
for
everybody
involved
and
then
the
the
thing
I'd
like
to
touch
on
is
you
know
when,
when
we
did
the
the
building
where
the
greenery
used
to
be,
which
is
now
the
overhang
we
we
put
20
bedrooms
above
the
the
commercial
space
and
we
needed
parking
off
site
for
that.
E
When
we
did
the
lamborn's
building,
I
would
have
a
bigger
commercial
space
on
the
first
floor
or
multiple
commercial
spaces.
On
the
first
floor,
if
I
didn't
have
to
devote
three-fourths
of
the
back
of
the
main
floor
for
a
parking
garage
just
so
I
could
do
the
the
bedrooms
upstairs
and
then
again,
like
39
north
college,
the
victorian
house
next
to
malika
golf
salon
and
hillary.
It's
you
know
it's
a
beautiful
place.
E
It
needed
it
needed
to
be
remodeled
and
restored
restored
it,
but
I
met
the
parking
requirements
to
do
so,
so
I'm
all
in
favor
of
it.
If
they
would
just
come
up
with
some
parking,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
within
the
250
feet,
because
I
think
that
would
be
impossible,
but
maybe
like
a
long-term
lease
at
hdl
center
or
you
know
the
city
at
the
fairgrounds
wherever
it
may
be.
So
that's
all
I
have.
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
Blake
hodgson
one
north
court
street,
I
own
several
properties
up
on
port
street.
This
is
a
very
similar.
This
is
not
a
new
issue,
as
you
guys
know.
This
board's
heard
this
issue
several
times
the
board,
before
this
heard
this
several
times
the
board.
Before
that
heard
this
several
times,
you
know
unless
the
city
is
willing
to
rewrite
the
code.
I
To
take
this
requirement
out,
I
don't
know
how
you
can
unilaterally
make
exceptions,
because
what
you're
doing
is
you're,
basically
determining
values
of
property
so
about
you
know
if
that
property
has
a
variance
for
40
parking
spaces,
it's
a
lot
different
value
than
if
it
has
zero,
not
to
mention.
I
If
you
grant
the
variance
it
gives
the
developers
of
this
property
an
unfair
advantage
over
the
ones
that
have
played
by
the
rules
the
whole
time
and
who
are
leasing,
long-term
leasing,
parking
spaces
for
their
bedrooms
because
they
don't
have,
they
can
rent
their
units
cheaper
than
we
can,
because
we
have
to
pay
for
those
bedroom
units.
So
you
know
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
all
do
and
the
consistency
that
you
have
showed
it's
just
a
dangerous
precedent
to
set,
in
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
A
B
J
Yeah
art
oh
strike
on
behalf
of
best
of
court
south
make
compound
or
may
avenue
compound
and
andy
squared.
You
know,
I
think
everyone
who
spoke
before
me
spoke
eloquently
in
for
all
the
reasons
that
this
doesn't
make
sense,
and
I
would
just
like
to
agree
with
them
and
second
them
and
support
the
need
for
people
to
acquire
spaces
up
there
like
the
rest
of
us
have
had
to
do
for
years.
Thank
you.
D
L
G
My
name
is
charlie
folks
67
south
court
street.
I
just
wanted
to
agree
with
everything
that
john
warden,
brian,
blake
and
art
have
all
said
up
to
this
point
as
much
as
I
would
love
to
have
that
building
and
I
want
to
see
something
great
happen-
I'd
love
to
have
those
space
or
the
apartments
above
there.
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
have
student
rentals
up
there.
G
I
currently
am
employed.
My
family
owns
court
street
coffee
and
I
currently
see
exactly
what
brian
was
referring
to.
We
have
students
that
their
friends
will
stay
at
their
houses
or
save
their
apartments
on
court
street,
and
I
get
up
and
get
to
work
at
6
30
and
I
have
people
parking
in
those
back
spaces.
G
I
have
to
bug
brian
first
thing
in
the
morning
or
I
have
to
call
the
police,
because
people
are,
you
know
they
have
four
tickets
on
their
car
in
front
of
all
three
of
my
parking
spaces
me
and
little
professor
out
front,
and
I'm
just
concerned
that
that
will
continue
and
it'll
actually
become
more
of
a
problem.
If
we
have
more
students
living
up
there
and
more
potential
for
cars
to
be
there,
if
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
park
anywhere,
that's
encouraged
for
them
to
park.
G
G
A
A
Yes,
no
okay.
This
letter
was
sent
to
me
on
june
4th
by
mr
andrew
e
grillo
and
from
the
k
robert
toy
attorney
at
law,
address
50
and
a
half
south
korean
street
suite
a
athens,
ohio,
45701
and
it
says
hello.
Mr
golsey,
mr
wharton
has
retained
our
office
in
regards
to
case
number
21-5
v,
mr
wharton
is
an
interested
party.
A
A
A
The
continuance
requested
is
merely
one
of
30
days.
We
are
asking
that
the
hearing
be
held
next
month
to
provide
our
client
and
other
party
of
interest
time
to
prepare
an
argument.
Our
position
is
that
it
would
only
be
fair
to
the
parties
of
interest,
given
the
fact
that
rvc
architects
has
had
months
to
prepare
their
case.
A
So
let
me
go
to
the
next.
This
was
an
email
was
sent
by
the
code
office
to
the
appellant
attached.
Please
find
the
letter
requesting
the
june
8
bca
meeting
be
postponed
for
30
days,
and
then
this
was
the
response
which
was
received
on
the
same
day.
Yesterday
june
7th
from
mr
john
stevenson,
I
says,
kerry,
I
have
consulted
with
my
clients
and
we
would
like
to
proceed
with
the
previously
scheduled
hearing
date
and
time
we
have
read
the
letter
address
to
mr
golsey,
from
mr
gorilla
and
based
upon
the
individual
represented
feel.
A
This
is
more
of
a
personal
attempt
at
hindering
the
process,
as
he
was
unsuccessful,
of
acquiring
the
subject
property
himself.
There
are
also
timeline
limitations
in
the
current
purchase
agreement
with
monetary
penalties
on
getting
the
proposed
renovation
and
use
approved
by
the
city.
A
A
D
I
guess
the
only
thing
that
I
see
that
I
don't
know
that
whether
a
full
variance
is
granted
or
partial
or
offs
you
know,
off-site
somewhere
in
a
different
location,
is
a
a
possible
resolution.
D
However,
I
I
mean
I
still
feel
that,
with
the
amount
of
city
parking
available
for
just
general
public
that,
regardless,
if
this
additional
apartment
complexes
is
uptown,
that
I
still
feel
that
the
parking
situation
with
people
using
spots
over
extended
periods
of
time
and
doing
the
whole
ticketing
calling
the
police
situation,
I
think
it
happens
regardless
of
this.
If
this
variant
is
allowed
or
not-
and
you
know
my
clients
and
are
are
willing
to
you
know-
we've
attempted.
D
Other
routes
for
parking,
and
just
as
a
lot
of
you
know
that
doesn't.
A
Again,
mr
andrew
graylo's
letter
they
would
like
to
have
time
to
to
prepare
for
the
presentation
and
also
for
the
appellant.
A
A
A
You
know
even
one
space,
and
I
think
that,
were
you
saying
here
who
own
a
vehicle
shall
obtain
a
parking
permit
from
ohio
university.
I
not
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
process
and
I
think
what
we
are
looking
for
is
at
least
maybe
from
of
some
parking
spaces,
and
then
that
would
be
another
case
that
we
could
look
at
it.
So
do
we
have
a
motion
from
the
board
to
continue
this
case.
L
John
I'm
just
a
little
confu
I
mean
I
don't.
It
seemed
that
the
desire
for
continuance
was
expressed
by
someone
who
was
representing
mr
wharton,
and
that
was
the
only.
That
was
the
only
request
that
was
made
for
a
continuance
and
the
appellant
did
not
want
a
continuance.
Mr
wharton
has
spoken.
L
A
L
It
may
be
that
mr
wharton
still
wants
to
have
one,
and-
and
maybe
we
should
do
that
on
his
behalf
or
I
don't.
I
just
don't
know
what
under
what
circumstances
we
would
feel
should
feel
like.
We
want
to
continue
the
case.
A
We
cannot
say
how
the
vote
will
be
tonight
if
we
review
the
case,
but
I
think
it
might
be
on
benefit
for
both
sides
that
if
they
could
consider
a
continuation,
but
if
you
like
to
hear
for
more
from
mr
wharton,
mr
wharton,
could
you
please
state
what
you
can.
A
H
Yes,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
my
the
I
no
longer
want
a
continuance.
My
concern
was
we.
We
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time.
I
was
hoping
we
could
get
a
week.
H
We,
it
became
pretty
evident
to
me.
We
were
not
going
to
get
a
continuance.
The
meeting
was
scheduled
to
go
so
I
told
the
attorney
that
hey
I'll
I'll
be
on
the
zoom.
Call
I'll
explain
my
position.
I
don't
need
a
continuance.
I've
explained
my
position.
I
appreciate
the
fact
you've
asked
me.
I
do
want
to
clarify
one
thing
that
was
in
the
letter
that
you
read
in
reference
to
me:
making
an
attempt
to
buy
the
building.
I
did
not
make
an
attempt
to
buy
the
building.
H
H
If
it
cost
a
million
dollars,
then
maybe
instead
of
spending
2.8
million
on
the
building,
you
need
to
spend
1.8
million
on
the
building
and
still
develop
the
building
and
have
parking
I'm
not
here
to
raise
as
much
money
as
I
can
for
the
owner.
I'm
here
to
say,
look
parking
is
possible
and
I
I
don't
agree
with
my
son,
whoever
brought
up
the
idea
of
the
fairgrounds,
because
that
is
not
going
to
work.
Okay,
you
can't
put
people
a
mile
away
from
the
building
and
expect
them
to
use
that
parking.
H
L
Have
a
question
john:
yes:
does
it
matter
whether
the
building
I
mean
is
the
building?
Has
it
been
sold
or
is
it
it
says
something
about
proposed
purchaser?
Is
that
something
that
we
should
does
that
matter
to
us
whether
someone
is
contemplating
buying
the
building
or
whether
they
have
already
bought
the
building.
A
Yeah
that
was
actually
one
of
my
questions
in
here.
If
we
were
going
to
continue,
which
seems
we
are
and
and
by
the
way
I
see,
there's
some
storm
coming
and
rain
in
case
I'm
oh
yeah
lost.
If
I'm
not
here
lisa,
would
you
mind
if
you
continue
with
the
with
the
case?
We
never
know
how
you
can
lose
your
internet,
so
I
would
like
to
ask
the
the
appellant,
if
he's
representing
the
person
who
wants
to
purchase
the
building
or
the
owner
or
both.
D
D
K
D
Who
has
a
binding
purchase
agreement
to
be
the
new
owner
of
the
property?
Okay,
there
are
some
timeline
conditions
in
that
purchase
agreement
that,
as
I
stated
in
my
letter,
have
some
monetary
penalties.
If
we
can't
come
to
some
resolution
to
make
this
project
go
through.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
did
you
get
your
answer,
lisa,
okay,
just
to
make
a
quick
comment
on
that.
You
know
whether
you
had
a
contract.
We
are
not
really
interested
in
the
content
of
that
contract
or
the
penalty
monetary
penalty,
and
those
are
not
the
items
that
we
consider
on
this
board.
A
B
A
B
So
I
would
like
to
hear
if
there
has
been
any
analysis
of
the
parking
in
the
area
that's
available
and
could
potentially
be
acquired.
40
spaces
is
a
lot
and
I
don't
imagine
there
is
that
much
available
in
the
near
area,
but
has
the
appellant
looked
at
the
availability
of
parking
to
figure
out?
If
there
is
maybe
a
minimum
variance
here,
they
could
meet
as
opposed
to
asking
for
the
full
40
spaces.
D
We
have
done
different
areas
and
then,
as
mr
wharton
even
stated
about
the
whole
fairgrounds-
and
you
know
the
distances,
obviously
very
lengthy.
I
know.
D
Correspondence
back
on
those,
but
we
have
been
trying
to
look
for
parking
in
the
nearby
area.
The
one
problem
like
with
this
whole
property
is,
you
know
it's
completely
landlocked.
D
The
only
option
would
be
to
then
eat
up.
40
parking
spots
would
take
up
more
than
two-thirds
or
three-quarters.
N
This
is
ali
rap
lee.
My
address
is
51
madison
avenue
in
athens.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
hear
me,
it's
raining
really
loudly
where
I
am,
and
so
let
me
know
if
I'm
audible,
yeah.
A
N
Okay,
good,
thank
you.
I
am
a
real
estate
agent
representing
the
current
owners
of
the
property,
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
I'm
I'm
glad
to
hear
from
the
other
court
street
property
owners
and
renters
that
everybody
wants
this
building
put
to
good
use.
I
think
there's
a
way
to
do
that.
That
will
meet
the
needs
of
everybody.
I
I
I
do
feel
that
the
the
parking
situation
at
the
as
they've
described
it
is
a
problem,
but
I
don't
know
necessarily
that
that
problem
will
ever
necessarily
go
away.
N
The
density
of
the
residential
housing
up
there
is
pretty
dense
those
folks,
don't
all
have
parking
and
they're
going
to
have
guests
partners
etc.
Come
over.
The
problem
is
more
with
illegal
parking
and
not
necessarily
the
fact
there
are.
There
are
people
over
there
having
guests,
and
I
think
that
it
is
worth
looking
into.
N
We've
had
a
couple
of
offers
for
of
rentable
spaces
nearby,
so
I
think
it's
worth
looking
into
a
way
to
make
this
work
for,
for
the
parties
that
doesn't
necessarily
involve
waiving
all
of
the
spaces
required.
So
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
that
I
think
there
are
spaces
nearby
that
aren't
necessarily
as
far
away
as
the
fairgrounds,
and
that
would
give
these
property
owners
and
the
buyers
the
right
to
develop
their
property
in
a
way
that
would
benefit
everybody.
Uptown.
A
Okay,
thank
you
just
a
quick
comment
on
that
is
that
at
this
point
tonight
we
don't
have
any
a
specific
plan
for
the
parking
or
whether
it's
going
to
be
leased
or
so
on.
There's
a
speculation
that
there
might
be
or
not,
but
we
are
not
going
to
consider
unless
we
have
something
in
writing
is
something
a
contract.
Sometimes
people
bring
for
a
release
and
then
we
can
view
that
for
our
variants,
but
as
of
tonight,
we
don't
have
anything
in
the
packet
that
addresses
the
parking
other
person.
K
John
john,
I
want
to
chime
in
so
I
want
to
address
the
pellet
when
the
potential
buyer
was
looking
at
this
space.
Was
this
variance
mentioned
to
them,
or
did
they
seek
any
options?
While
looking
at
that,
because
this
is
not
the
first
and
definitely
it's
not
gonna-
be
the
last
time
for
parking
uptown
for
apartments,
but
did
y'all
even
consider
that
many
spaces
or
try
to
find
anything.
D
Yeah,
like
I
answered
to
lisa
before
there,
we
did
scout
out
the
the
vicinity
and
within
the
current
code
requirements
and
achieving
40
spots
within
any
area.
D
Said
that
we
maybe
pick
up
a
couple
for
use
of
everyone,
but
there's
just
achieving
the
amount
required,
as,
as
we
all
know,
virtually
impossible.
D
E
Okay
hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
just
real
quick!
This
is
brian
wharton,
again
82
north
court.
I
don't
know
that-
and
I
just
thought
of
this
as
I'm
listening
in
the
current
owners
of
the
building
owned,
the
masonic
lodge
at
the
very
bottom
of
court
street
and
they
have
a
bunch
of
parking
behind
the
building
and
they
just
built
a
parking
lot
to
the
left
of
the
building,
and
so
I
mean
that's
parking
on
court
street
within
probably
what
three
blocks.
E
So
I
don't
know
if
they've
looked
into
that,
but
maybe
they
can
make
some
sort
of
agreement
in
the
purchase
to
have
their
40
spots
in
one
of
those
two
lots
or
both.
A
We're
not
even
discussing
it
tonight
because,
like
I
said
it's
just
a
suggestion,
it's
not
something
that
is
before
us
and
again.
If
the
appellant
would
like
to
continue
the
case
to
find
out
about
all
those
other
options,
we
will
be
happy
to
to
continue
the
case,
but
at
the
moment
we
don't
have
anything
solid
to
go
by.
D
D
D
That's
probably
the
best
case
for
this
whole
situation.
Okay,
I
would
just
proceed
and
then
we
can,
if,
based
on
what
the
conclusion
is,
we
can
go
from
there.
A
Okay,
very
good,
any
final
questions
for
the
appellant.
I
still.
A
H
Okay,
john
wharton
again-
and
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this,
but
it
seems
like
we've
sort
of
skimmed
over
this
rbc
architects
was
the
firm
I
employed.
When
I
bought
the
bronies
building,
which
used
to
be
the
in-town
body
shop,
it
was
an
eyesore.
H
H
A
Thank
you,
sir,
with
that
we
are
going
to
just
give
a
chance
to
appeal
and
to
rebuttal
whatever
just
mr
warden
said
just
now,.
B
No
yeah,
I
think
I
want
to
say
something
here
about
this:
it's
clearly.
The
requirement
is
extremely
difficult
in
the
b2d
zone
in
the
city
to
provide
the
kind
of
parking
that
the
city
code
calls
for
here,
and
it
seems
to
be
to
me
to
be
in
the
interest
of
the
public
to
grant
some
kind
of
variance
here.
That's
my
feeling,
I
don't
know
if
it's
for
that
full
40,
but
it
certainly
makes
sense
to
to
somehow
enable
this
project
to
go
ahead
with
some
kind
of
minimal
parking
weight
of
variance,
for
example.
B
Here
you
know,
anytime,
you
add
parking
or
parking
requirements
like
this.
It
means
really
it's
not
that
the
landlord
or
the
owner's
problem
it
becomes
the
tenant's
problem,
so
the
tenant
is
paying
for
that
parking
and
it
increases
the
cost
to
the
student
and
student
housing
is
what
we're
talking
about
here
and
that's
been
stated
in
the
documents
I
was
just
at
the
bobcat
student
orientation
today.
A
A
We
are
only
focusing
on
this
six
criteria,
exceptional
circumstances
and
so
on,
which
I'm
going
to
go
through
every
one
of
them
and
based
on
those
only
on
those
six
criteria.
If
we
could
find
that
there
is
exceptional
circumstances
and
we
can
satisfy
all
of
those,
then
we
vote
based
on
that.
But
yes,
you
know,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
issues.
That
again
city
council
probably
can't
answer
those
much
better.
M
John,
if
I,
if
I
could
they're
not
asking
for
a
reduced
amount
of
the
40
they're
asking
for
zero,
I
mean
that's
what
we're
voting
on
right.
That
should
be
of
no.
If,
if
the
the
they
don't
get
it,
then
they
could
alter
their
opinion
at
that
point
as
to
how
many
they're
looking
for
for
variance,
but
I
think
the
duty,
even
though
I'm
not
going
to
vote
the
duty,
is
that
we're
looking
at
somebody
that's
asking
to
go
from
40
to
zero,
not
not
anything
else.
L
Now
could
I
respond
to
what
rob
said
sure
I
see
your
point
rob
and
yeah.
I
can
see
the
difficulty
of
these
kinds
of
development,
but
I
really
agree
with
john
that
these
are
questions
about
uptown
parking
are
it's
already
very
difficult,
and
I
think
you
could
say
that
it
is
of
a
general
nature.
Anyone
who
wants
to
develop
up
there
I
mean
develop
apartments
on
the
upper
floors.
L
Is
you
know
in
the
past,
they've
had
to
find
some
parking.
These
guys
are
saying
they
cannot
find
any.
That's.
I
think,
a
matter
of
enough
significance
for
everyone
who
lives
in
athens
that
it's
not
really
best
addressed
by
us
like.
Like
the
last
case
we
had.
I
think
that
these
kinds
of
issues
are
pretty
pretty
big
and
that
city
council
are
the
appropriate
people
to
be
considering
whether
we
just
say
you
don't
have
to
have
any
parking
places.
L
A
L
L
A
Very
good
do
we
have
a
second
I'll?
Second,
that
john
okay
aaron?
Second,
all
right,
let's
go
over
the
findings
unless
there
is
any
more
discussions,
exceptional
circumstances,
there
are
exceptional
or
extraordinary
circumstances
or
conditions
applying
to
the
property
in
question
or
to
the
intended
use
of
the
property
that
do
not
apply
generally
to
other
properties
or
classes
or
uses
in
the
same
zone.
B
I
think
there
are
exceptional
situations
here.
Some
some
properties
have
similar
problems,
but
many
others
have
some
adjacent
property
where
they
could
have
parking
or
do
have
parking,
and
this
there's
just
no
opportunity
for
that
whatsoever.
So
I
think
it
is
pretty
exceptional.
A
Can
the
property
be
utilized
in
a
different
way
that
would
not
require
so
many,
as
you
know,
we're
trying
to
establish
exceptional
circumstances.
That
only
applies
to
this
building
and
if
it
has
applied
to
the
other
buildings
in
the
past,
you
know
they
were
able
to
provide
some
kind
of
a
parking
space,
maybe
off-site
or
in
other
situations.
F
A
Practical
difficulty
and
undue
hardship
because
of
exceptional
or
extraordinary
circumstances
or
conditions
pertaining
to
a
specific
piece
of
property.
A
literal
enforcement
of
these
regulations
will
result
in
practical
difficulty
or
undue
hardship
that
is
unnecessary
to
the
achievement
of
public
purposes.
A
Okay,
any
other
comments,
preservation
of
equal
property
rights.
Literal
interpretation
of
these
regulations
would
deprive
the
appellant
of
rights
commonly
enjoyed
by
others
in
the
same
zone
and
the
same
vicinity,
while
the
granting
of
the
requested
variants
will
not
confer
on
the
applicant
any
special
privilege
that
is
denied
to
other
properties
in
the
same
zone
and
the
same
vicinity.
A
L
The
speakers
I
mean
the
people
who
spoke
were
making
the
argument
that
they
themselves
were
required
to
provide
parking
at
their
businesses
and
so
on,
and
so
I
think
that
would
suggest
that
they
at
least
feel
that
that
granting
this
variance
would
be
giving
a
special
right
to
this
new
development
that
that
they
would
be
required
to
supply
no
parking
at
all.
Right.
L
F
Affect
the
businesses
too,
that's
the
thing
you
know
we
were
talking
about
the
students
and
everything
you
know,
when's
the
last
time
you
drove
uptown
and
had
to
drive
out.
I
do
it
all
the
time
just
because
I
can't
find
parking.
I
want
to
go
to
a
place
and
eat
and
all
the
time
so
that,
along
with
the
new,
the
new
delivery
cars
that
are
just
hanging
out
in
that
intersection
at
chipotle
trying
to
get
good,
runs
and
stuff
is
it's
kind
of
an
unnerving
already.
B
Always
really
now
see
regarding
this,
wouldn't
really,
I
think,
impact
the
parking
on
the
street
yeah
substantial
amount,
and
this
recent
parking
study
by
the
city
showed
that
there's
plenty
of
empty
parking
in
the
street
at
any
given
time.
So
I
don't
think
that's
a
real
problem,
but
I
think
it's
otherwise
an
issue.
A
A
Not
of
a
general
nature,
the
condition
or
situation
of
the
specific
piece
of
property
or
the
intended
use
of
the
set
property
for
which
variance
is
solved.
One
or
the
other
or
in
combination,
is
not
of
a
general
or
recurrent
nature.
So
to
make
reasonably
practicable
the
formulation
of
a
general
regulation
for
such
conditions
or.
L
I
think
it's
of
a
very
general
nature
and
the
uptown
parking
situation
is
such
that
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it's
within
our
mandate
or
whatever
it
is
that
we
hold
to
make
decisions
about
providing
agreeing
to
provide
so
much
extra
residential
space
to
people
without
addressing
the
question
of
parking
uptown,
which
affects
pretty
much
everyone
in
athens.
That's
that's
a
decision
that's
best
made
by
city
council
if
they
want
to
change
those
regulations.
L
A
No,
mr
john
good
against,
I
vote.
No,
mr
aaron
thomas
vote.
No,
mr
robert
de
lac,
oh
no
and
I
would
know
as
well
I'm
sorry
you
don't
have
the
variance.
But
again
you
have
some
time
to
revisit
your
project
and
maybe
come
up
with
the
solution.