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Athens City Council - November 23, 2020
A
B
You
president
eisley,
welcome
everyone.
I
would
like
to
wish
everyone
a
happy
thanksgiving
week
and
have
safely
hopes
for
safely
staying
home
and
enjoying
with
your
immediate
family,
your
thanksgiving
festivities.
Tonight
we
have
quite
a
few
items
on
our
finance
and
personnel
agenda.
So,
let's
get
right
to
it.
We
are
starting
with
the
athens
county
convention
and
visitors
bureau
agreement.
C
I
saw
this
as
a
unique
opportunity
to
be
able
to
kind
of
present
a
little
bit
about
our
transition
here
so
far,
and
then
what
our
focus
will
be
kind
of
moving
into
the
future
and
into
2021,
so
I'll
start
with
a
brief
history
of
our
transition.
As
many
of
you
are
aware,
we
did
have
a
transition
with
our
executive
director
and
I've
stepped
in
as
an
interim
director
here
for
the
visitors.
C
C
C
We've
gone
through
the
policies
and
procedures
and
the
process
for
placing
folks
on
the
board.
We've
come
up
with
some
new
outlines
for
that,
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
currently
right
now,
just
as
of
last
week,
we
have
three
folks
stepping
in
to
those
roles,
so
so
we're
excited
about
some
of
those
opportunities
for
change
and
some
growth
in
that
we
have
within
the
first
week
of
being
placed
as
an
interim
director,
just
a
quick
little
story
here.
C
Unfortunately,
on
day
one
I
walked
in
in
the
first
hour
and
found
out
that
our
website
was
down
and
it
was
down
forever.
That
was
the
first
hour
of
me
coming
in
as
interim
director,
so
there
was
an
immediate
challenge
there
and
what
we
have
been
able
to
do
is
we
put
up
an
interim
site
and
we're
working
with
a
new
company
on
our
website
development
right
now,
in
hopes
that
we
kind
of
finalize
that
process
sooner
rather
than
later,
there's
some
design
aspects
that
we're
working
on
right
now
related
to
our
organization.
C
C
C
We
have
also
gone
through
all
of
our
budgetary
items,
as
many
folks
are
in
our
community,
going
through
the
budget
challenges
with
covet
impacts
on
different
agencies.
We
went
through
every
single
line
item
down
to
the
penny.
I
was
very.
I
was
very
focused
on
making
sure
that
we
knew
where
that
money
was
going
and
where
the
money
was
coming
from.
C
C
However,
we've
been
able
to
decrease
the
amount
of
money
that
we
are
paying
into
those
different
agencies,
but
we're
still
receiving
receiving
what
those
agencies
are
giving
us.
So
those
contract
negotiations
have
gone
very
well.
It
was
important
to
me
that
we
keep
those
relationships
built
so
as
we
rebuild
in
2021,
we
still
have
those
relationships
with
those
agencies
to
be
able
to
increase
the
funding
or
increase
marketing
through
them.
C
C
C
We
have
seen
some
research
again,
just
in
the
last
two
months
of
being
back,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
research
now
that
there's
a
focus
on
health
and
wellness
and
outdoor
spaces,
and
so
going
into
2021.
We
foresee
this
continuing
and
so
we're
going
to
really
be
promoting
our
outdoor
spaces,
which
we
all
know
athens
county,
has
a
wonderful
outline
for
outdoor
recreation.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
focus
in
2021
and
again
we
see
this
regional
tourism
focus.
C
I
think
athens
is
kind
of
set
in
a
unique
perspective
to
be
able
to
push
that
idea.
So
that's
that's.
In
2021,
we
do
have
a
health
and
wellness
campaign
that
we're
going
to
focus
on
for
the
winter
time.
This
focuses
more
on
mental
health
and
awareness.
Everyone's
working
from
home
they're,
going
through
the
pandemic,
everyone's
been
affected
in
different
ways,
and
we
anticipate
folks
needing
to
kind
of
get
away,
and
so
we're
focusing
on
the
health
and
wellness
and
mental
aspect
of
that
for
our
winter
campaigns.
C
C
So
with
all
that
said
in
our
in
the
marketing
research
in
the
last
two
months,
kind
of
what
we're
going
to
be
focusing
on
really
strongly
is
the
outdoor
recreation,
the
mental
health
and
wellness,
and
then
we
also
realized
that,
in
the
research
analysis
that
we're
kind
of
covering
that
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
focused
quite
intently
on
staying
closer
to
home.
So
our
marketing
outreach
is
going
to
be
for
a
lot
of
those
metro
areas
in
the
state
of
ohio
and
kind
of
surrounding
states.
C
C
D
D
The
second
question
I
did
have
also-
and
this
is
just
to
kind
of
wrap
our
head
around
the
the
financial
hit
that
your
that
your
agency
has
taken.
Can
you
speak
to
kind
of
the?
What
we're
not
seeing
in
t
tgt
tax
like
like,
for
example,
and
I
know
that
we're
not
seeing
the
amount
of
sellouts
in
hotel
rooms
that
we
usually
see.
C
Yeah,
so
I
can,
I
can
kind
of
touch
on
that
a
little
bit,
as
I
mentioned
during
the
summer.
We
we
very
unfortunately,
you
know
the
the
previous
executive
director
was
the
only
person
in
the
office.
The
rest
of
the
office
was
put
on
furlough
for
basically
the
entire
duration
of
the
summer.
We
had
a
fairly
low
hotel
tax
lodging
tax
that
came
in
for
our
previous
quarter.
C
Basically
the
renegotiations
that
we've
had
with
all
those
contracts,
the
the
amount
of
money
that
we've
saved
there,
the
amount
of
money
that
we've
actually
saved
and
payout
for
our
employees
has
been
a
significant
amount
where
we
are
at
right
now.
I
feel
very
confident
that
we're
going
to
make
it
through
the
winter-
and
the
hope
is-
is
that
in
the
turn
of
the
spring,
when
things
kind
of
start
to
turn
the
corner
a
little
bit
we'll
have
more
folks
coming
in.
C
We
also
know,
as
I
mentioned,
the
vacation
properties
and
those
type
of
rentals
are
are
continuing
even
with
the
virus.
Folks
are
still
staying
at
the
airbnb
properties
and
they're
focused
on
that
outdoor
recreation.
They
want
to
be
socially
distant
and
safe
in
a
way,
unfortunately,
for
the
hotels
themselves.
That
is
not
the
case.
We
still
see
hotel
increase,
but,
as
I
mentioned
our
november,
our
november
numbers
increase
substantially,
and
the
hope
is
that
that
will
continue.
E
The
visitors
burial
is
lucky
to
have
you,
and
I
just
cannot
imagine
the
challenges
that
you
must
be
facing
in
this
time
with
that
sort
of
bureau.
So
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
right
now
sounds
like
you're
on
top
of
it,
and
hopefully
things
will
turn
around
for
you
and
just
appreciate
the
work
that
you're
doing.
C
Thank
you
I'll
I'll,
add
something
real
quick
here.
It's
it's
extremely
cheesy,
but
kind
of
one
of
my
focuses
and
a
saying
that
I
follow
is,
is
problems
are
only
solutions
waiting
to
happen,
and
I
very
truly
believe
that
I've
told
everyone
that
I've
talked
to
the
reason
that
I
accepted
this
position
is
because
I
want
to
take
on
that
challenge.
It's
not
going
to
be
easy.
It's
going
to
be
extremely
difficult.
We
have
had
a
decrease
in
the
amount
of
funding,
but
my
goal
is
is
to
to
change.
F
B
G
G
Excuse
me,
but
we
have
approved
those
parklets
for
the
uptown
businesses
to
continue
indefinitely,
so
we're
hoping
that
more
businesses
will
have
outside
tables,
which
might
be
a
really
good
thing
for
people
who
go
to
hawking
hills,
you
know
and
if
we
could
get
a
few
of
them
down
to
come
and
and
have
a
meal
outside.
That
would
be
great
for
athens.
C
Yes,
I
I
am,
and
I've
actually
had
some
significant
conversations
regarding
the
parklets.
We
have
some
folks
that
very
much
enjoy
those
and
we've
kind
of
been
pushing
the
idea
of
like
all
right.
Well,
you
know
several
other
places
could
have
these.
It
gives
a
unique
perspective
to
dining
on
court
street,
so
yeah.
C
C
H
H
You
also
referenced
airbnb
or
short-term
rentals,
as
are
you
tracking
revenue
coming
in
from
short-term
rentals
versus
coming
in
from
the
hotels
or
is
it
just
that
you're?
You
are
getting
100
of
the
tgt
from
the
county
and
certainly
you
get
50
of
the
transient
gas
tax
from
the
city
of
athens.
So
are
you
tracking,
airbnb
or
short-term
rentals
versus
hotels,.
C
The
the
short
answer
to
that
is:
yes,
the
the
way
that
that
comes
in
from
the
county.
We
actually
receive
a
report
when
we
get
that
funding,
and
that
report
is
it
actually
breaks
all
of
that
down
of
where
that
funding
is
coming
from.
That
was
actually
one
of
the
first
tasks
that
I
did
in
the
first
week
was
I
reached
out
to
to
cindy
in
the
auditor's
office
and
was
able
to
request
a
breakdown
of
where
that
funding
was
coming
from.
So
I
do
have
that.
Yes,.
H
B
B
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
also
related
to
the
same
issue
is
the
stop
loss
insurance
contract
also
the
same
organization
that
held
the
contract
in
2021
or
in
2020,
serious
america,
and
this
would
be
a
one-year
contract
to
cover
the
city's
stop
loss
insurance.
B
F
So
so
briefly,
since
the
city
is
self-insured,
we
take
out
a
stop-loss
insurance
program
to
protect
us
from
an
absorb,
not
exorbita,
catastrophic
injury
or
health
issue
where
the
insured
would
spend
or
we
would
be
required
to
pay
our
own
money
up
to
a
certain
amount
and
and
then
the
stop
loss
kicks
in
and
protects
the
city
from
having
to
pay
all
of
its
reserve
out
for
a
catastrophic
injury
or
health
issue,
and
I
I
I
don't
know
what
that
number
is.
But
I
it's
it's
six
figures.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
just
wondering
is
that
a
like?
Is
it
a
limit
on
a
per
employee
if
the
employee's
individual
insurance
hits
that
amount,
and
is
there
also
a
like
a
whole
city,
like
all
all
city
employees?
If
we,
you
know
sort
of
like
an
individual
and
a
family
deductible
sort
of
thing,
can
we
hit
hit
that
limit
both
both
ways.
B
B
B
B
K
K
The
revenue
we've
had
for
the
last
five
years
has
been
barely
five
thousand,
maybe
seven
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
monument
placement
and
internment.
So
it's
not
enough
to
support
the
electric
bills
and
the
maintenance
and
landscapers.
So
I
put
it
we
we
put
special
account
lines
in
the
general
fund,
but,
as
you
know,
on
the
revenue
side-
and
we
do
have
two
cemetery
revenue
lines
that
we
can
track,
but
we've
only
used
one
of
them
and
the
cost
for
all
of
those
other
expenses
is
50
to
60
000
a
year.
K
K
We
have
created
a
fund,
a
new
fund
and
we
are
going
to
have
to
transfer
money
from
the
general
fund
into
that
fund
to
pay
for
the
expenses
above
and
beyond.
Whatever
revenue
we
get
and
yes,
as
you
said,
you
know,
deputy
service
safety
director
chicky
has
done
a
lot
of
research
on
the
cemeteries.
What
we
can
and
can't
do,
he
knows
a
lot
about
the
operations
and
I
shared
with
him.
K
It
just
was
interesting
that
recently
on
my
list
serve
or
one
of
them,
someone
else
asked
how
people
were
funding
their
cemetery
funds
because
they're,
basically,
basically
a
money
pit,
and
so
several
of
them
did
the
same
thing.
We
did
ones
who
didn't
put
the
funds
in
their
general
fund
were
transferring
money
out
of
their
general
fund
to
put
in
their
cemetery
fund.
Also
so,
and
we
aren't
allowed
to
issue
a
levy
for
that.
K
K
B
D
I'm
sorry
I
just
I
jumped
in
there
at
the
last
second,
the
during
the
conversation
that
I
participated
in
about
this.
There
was
some
talk
about.
Maybe
shifting,
because
currently
aren't
the
the
people
who
are
in
charge
of
the
cemeteries,
are
they
lands
and
building?
Is
that
is
that
correct?
Yes,
let's
see
some
head
nods.
Yes,
thank
you.
Will
they
still
remain
in
that
in
that
same
same
department
or
are
we
are
we
talking
about
shifting?
We.
B
I
Just
just
a
real
quick
reality
check
for
the
city
was
that
we
had
no
choice
but
to
take
the
cemetery
on
it's
in
the
orc
that
that
that's
what
happens
when
other,
like
cemetery
associations
dissolve
and
such
is
that
we
had
no
choice
and
we
need
to
per
orc
and
keep
it
up
to
good
order
for
for
basically
eternity.
So
I
just
it's
not
something
that
we
can
get
rid
of.
It's
a
duty
that
we
have
to.
I
H
Go
figure,
yes,
I
know
you
know.
I
just
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
all
the
work
that
andrew
chicky
has
put
into
exploring
this
he's
done.
A
lot
of
sextant
work
with
the
cemetery
and
he's
also
explored
the
possibility
of
having
a
columbrium
there
in
the
cemetery
that
there
is
room
to
put
one
in.
That
would
be
large
enough
to
accept
300
plus
urns,
with
earned
niches
in
this,
but
so
he's
he
we're
continuing
to
explore
what
can
be
done.
H
He
feels
that
it
might
be
cost
effective
to
do
something
like
this,
but
still
more
work
to
be
had
when
it
comes
to
to
something
like
that.
But
again,
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
all
the
work
that
andrew
has
put
into
this,
which
has
been
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
hours
that
he's
dedicated
to
figuring
this
out
and
where
the
how
the
isles
can
be
used
to
in
turn,
future
deceased.
B
Thank
you,
mayor,
patterson,
a
bit
more
information
to
give
everyone
a
sense
of
the
gravity
of
this.
This
issue.
As
from
the
auditor's
office,
it
appears
that
revenue
is
around
eight
or
nine
thousand
dollars
a
year,
and
expenses
are
sixty
thousand
dollars
sixty
two
plus
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
we
do
need
to
do
something
to
to
fix
this
situation.
B
Other
comments,
okay,
thank
you
all.
Moving
on
to
appropriations
and
transfers,
the
transfer
that
I'm
aware
of
is
this
cemetery
fund.
The
author's
office
is
recommending
transferring
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund
into
the
cemetery
fund
in
order
to
begin
to
track
this
fund
better
than
we
are
now.
B
K
B
B
Okay,
moving
on
to
our
next
item
on
finance
and
person,
now
vacant
staff
positions,
I'll
just
remind
the
public
and
council
that
this
summer
we
made
an
official
request
to
city
administration
for
council
to
review.
It's
a
non-binding
request
to
review
vacant
positions
in
this
time
of
the
pandemic,
and
they
have
worked
very
well
with
council
on
doing
that.
The
service
safety
director
is
recommending
filling
a
number
of
vacant
positions
at
this
time.
F
That
would
leave
us
two
operators
down
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
and
I
recommend
that
we
replace
at
least
one
of
those
positions,
because
it
will
impact
the
job
duties
of
the
remaining
employees
down
there,
including
requiring
them
to
work
considerable
amounts
of
mandated
overtime
and
that's
going
to
have
a
heavy
toll
on
the
staff.
And
so
I
think
we
ought
to
move
forward
with
hiring
a
wastewa
at
least
one
wastewater
treatment
plant
operator.
F
And
then
we
just
realized
a
transfer-
and
I
mentioned
this
also
in
tuesday's
meeting
the
transfer
of
a
maintenance
tech
back
into
a
parking
enforcement
position.
So
the
good
news
is
the
parking
enforcement
position
is
or
the
department
is
fully
staffed
now
again,
but
that
creates
two
maintenance
tech
positions.
F
F
So
there
are
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
I
have
to
say
every
time
we
fill
a
position.
Recently.
It's
been
an
internal
movement,
and
so
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
moving
parts.
Employee
comes
from
this
department
transfers
to
that
department
and
creates
a
vacancy
over
here.
Arts
parks
and
rec
has
a
lot
of
vacancies
and
a
lot
of
candidates
come
from
arts
parks
and
rec
to
other
agencies,
and
so
we're
gonna
have
to
take
a
look
at
apr
as
well.
F
H
F
The
other
position
that
you
mentioned
today,
sam
that
I'd
forgotten
about
was
you
know.
We
are
moving
forward
with
transferring
a
solid
waste
inspector
over
to
arts
parks
and
rec
to
fill
the
facility
operations
position,
and
when
that
solid
waste
inspector
position
is
vacated
it.
You
know
it
might
be
doable
now
with
less
students
in
town,
but
when
we
reach
normal
population
of
students
which
could
happen
anytime
between
now
and
april,
we're
going
to
need
that
solid
waste
inspector.
F
There
are
two:
we
will
lose
one
we're
going
to
need
that
position
filled
because-
and
that
is
a
you
know,
aside
from
other
things,
helping
to
keep
the
city
clean.
It
does
generate
revenue
that
position,
and
so
I
recommend
that
we
fill
that
one
without
delay
as
well
and
that
that
one
we
could
hire
and
test
and
whatnot
in
the
first
few
months
of
of
the
year
and
get
them
on
board
before
spring.
Let's
say.
A
Well,
I
I
I
did
and
I
wondered,
but
I
think
you've
answered
my
question
chief
pyle,
that
you're
saying
move
forward
with
filling
that
solid
waste
position,
because
I
would
agree
the
students
are
coming
back
january
19th
and
we
need
someone
and
the
difference
between
one
solid
waste
officer
and
two
and
the
amount
that
they
can
accomplish.
They're
both
very
skilled,
but
it
makes
it
it
makes
all
the
difference.
So
I
would
just
wholeheartedly
agree.
F
F
You
know
everybody
has
been
working
short,
you
know,
and
and
every
division
has
vacancies
and
take
jessica
dine,
for
instance,
filling
in
you
know
that
that's
a
vacancy
and
kurt
mill
will
be
retiring
and
that
will
be
a
vacancy
and
the
two
mts
and
I
could
go
down
the
list
and,
and
so,
but
we
are
very
considerate
of
budget,
and
so
before
we
considered
filling
the
other
two
positions.
I'd
I'd
really
want
to
get
into
next
year
a
little
bit
and
see
how
we're
doing
budget-wise.
F
K
Oh,
I
was
just
wondering
tom
director
if
you
could
make
a
list
of
all
of
these
positions
in
motion
and
the
ones
that
you
predict
to
be
filled
in-house
and
which
might
open
up
other
new
positions,
not
necessarily
in
that
department,
and
I
don't
know
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
me
in
my
office,
but
I
would
think
that
council
could
use
that
too
and
then
maybe
just
a
quick
blurb
on
these.
I
need
to
do
right
now.
These
can
wait
till
january
a
month
from
now
not
long.
F
Yeah,
absolutely
I
can
do
that
and
you
know
I
started
to
do
that
with
the
budget
and
then
just
got
engrossed
in
in
the
budgeting
and
but
at
last
count
if
I
include
interns
and
and
permanent
part-time
and
then
the
full-time
positions,
we
were
well
over
20
positions
down
now,
a
good
chunk
of
that
I'd,
say
nine
or
ten
of
those
were
part-time
or
intern
positions.
But
you
know
some
of
them
are.
Are
you
know
these
positions
that
are
now.
K
K
He
was
the
one
that
I
always
saw
up
in
the
bucket
trucks,
switching
out
our
banners
hanging
christmas
lights
and
things
like
that.
We
had
really
dark
hair.
So
if
any
of
you
remember
seeing
someone
like
that
working
in
town
in
the
bucket
truck,
you
know
they
did
many
other
things,
but
that
was,
I
don't
know
nice
memory
of
mine,
of
ray
yeah.
B
H
Well,
auditor
heck:
you!
You
opened
that
door,
so
I'm
going
to
walk
through
it.
You
know
just
to
kind
of
put
an
exclamation
mark
on
what
other
heck
just
said.
A
story
was
shared
with
me
from
my
executive
assistant
to
where
ray
would
go
so
far
as
to
use
the
bucket
truck
and
a
a
several
small
juvenile
squirrels
were
trapped
up
on
a
power
line
and
ray
even
got
the
squirrels
off
the
power
line
and
got
them
to
safety.
H
I
mean
those,
that's
the
kind
of
that's
the
level
of
care
that
ray
guerin
had
for
for
our
community
and
and
otter
heck
yeah.
I
I
I
would
always
chat
with
ray
when
ray
was
was
done
hanging
banners.
I
wouldn't
chat
with
him
when
he's
up
in
the
bucket
truck,
because
that's
a
perilous
place
to
be,
but
yeah
ray
will
be
missed.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Any
other
council
comments
on
the
vacant
positions.
Okay,
well
we'll
segue
right
into
the
next
item,
which
is
the
environmental
coordinator.
This
is
not
a
vacant
position.
This
is
a
new
position,
but
I
do
want
to
let
council
and
the
public
know
that
this
position
has
been
contemplated,
has
been
sort
of
described
for
well
over
a
year
director
stone
prior
to
being
deployed.
I
think
even
in
early
2019
was
already
thinking
about
the
necessity
to
have
this
position.
B
B
Pollutant
discharge
elimination
system,
the
npdes
program-
this
is
a
permit
that
the
city
holds.
The
ohio
university
also
holds
the
permit
and
it
has
to
be
managed.
They
can
also
will
coordinate
and
and
serve
as
the
city's
inspector
for
the
ms4
program.
The
municipal
separate
stormwaters
system
program
again,
which
ohio
university
also
does
and
then,
as
I
said,
they
will
be
connected
to
the
wastewater
treatment,
biosolids
program
and
other
environmental
connected
programs
for
the
city,
including,
as
I
mentioned,
testing
in
the
in
the
city's
water
and
wastewater
laboratory.
B
B
B
We
have
a
lot
of
vacant
positions
right
now
and
here
is
a
new
position,
but
I
believe
this
new
position
also
fills
a
need
in
the
city
for
for
all
of
these,
all
of
these
roles
that
the
environmental
coordinator
will
play
are
there
any
questions
from
finance
and
personnel
about
this
position?
Remember
katzis,.
D
Yes,
member
crowl,
thank
you
and,
and
thank
you
for
jogging,
my
memory
about
director
stone
talking
about
this
some
time
ago
and
and
please
director,
pyle
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
this
this
als.
The
this
conversation
was
kind
of
thought
about,
as
it
was
a
retirement
that
was
coming
up
with
in
the
soil
and
conservation
agency.
Is
that
correct?
D
F
D
K
And
I
was
just
going
to
add
to
that
that
our
contract
had
probably
more
to
do
with
reporting
requirements
which
are
strict
and
a
lot,
and
if
we
don't
comply
with
our
testing
and
reporting,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
issues
for
the
agencies
that
we
have
to
to
do
that
with
for
water,
sewer
and
storm
water,
that's
correct!
That
was
the
contract.
You
know
our
con.
J
J
That
right
now
definitely
gives
me
considerable
pause
if,
if
there
are
other
ways
that
we
could
meet
our
our
reporting
and
safety
obligations
for
a
bit
longer
than
I
I
would,
I
would
like
to
hear
those
options,
because
I
know
that
that
the
cost
of
this
new
hire
is
is
significantly
more
than
than
the
contract
with
athens,
soil
and
water.
And
I
understand
that
the
new
employee
would
be
responsible
for
significantly
more.
B
B
F
F
B
B
K
K
So
right
now
the
law
has
been
that
we
tax
employees
who
work
for
entities
in
the
city
if
even
if
they
work
from
home-
and
so
obviously
there
are
people
who
would
like
to
change
that
and
yes,
the
suburbs
around
bigger
cities
would
be
able
to
collect
those
taxes
but
areas
around
us.
If
you
don't
already
have
a
tax
in
place,
they
won't
get
anything.
These
people
won't
be
paying
any.
You
know:
income
taxes
or
local
income
taxes.
K
So
I
believe
last
I
heard
it
hasn't
gone
through.
The
center
hasn't
passed,
we're
at
the
point
where
a
lot
of
things
aren't
necessarily
going
on
at
that
level
so
depending
on
what
happens
there,
but
in
the
meantime,
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
this
come
january
1st,
if
it's
still
the
law.
We
need
this
wording
in
our
in
our
tax
code
that
this
and
it
would
be
a
temporary
one
and
we
have
set
it
up.
K
So
it
would
be
its
own
section
and
can
just
be
deleted
as
the
whole
section,
and
we
have
talked
to
debbie
about
that,
and
so
for
the
time
being,
we'd
like
to
continue
to
be
able
to
collect
those
local
income
taxes-
and
you
know,
see
see
where
things
go
from
there
and-
and
it
probably
is
a
covet
thing.
I
suspect
a
lot
of
people
will
continue
to
work
from
home
employee
pla.
Employers
will
find
out
that
certain
employees
can
can
do
everything
they
do
from
home
and
will
not
necessarily
come
back.
K
They
won't
have
to
provide
them
office,
space,
etc,
etc.
So
you
know
there
will
that
will
probably
happen
across
the
country.
I
suspect
some
of
my
kids
will
have
that,
but
anyway,
for
the
time
being,
it's
just.
We
have
enough
losses
already
that
we
just
really
need
to
continue
this.
For
the
time
being-
and
I
don't
know
I
I
I
don't
unless
somebody
has
specific
questions,
it's
probably
enough
for
me
to
say.
B
G
I
have
a
question
out
of
curiosity.
One
thing
that
I've
wondered
that
might
be
a
really
helpful
kind
of
a
sort
of
a
help
for
our
economy.
Here
in
athens
is
because
we
have
such
a
high
quality
of
life
here
in
athens.
Maybe
remote
workers
from
other
states
would
like
to
move
here,
and
if
somebody
comes
from
out
of
state,
but
is
you
know
working
remotely
for
a
company
in
their
past
state?
G
K
It
depends
not.
Everybody
collects
income
taxes.
The
way
we
do,
because
ohio
is
a
home
rule
state
we
have
588
or
so
entities
who
collect
their
own
income
tax,
and
that
is
not
the
case
in
in
every
state.
So
it
depends
on
on
what
they
have.
The
other
part
about.
Our
collection
is
when
people
come
in
temporarily,
if
they're,
here
more
than
20
days,
they
have
to
start
paying
our
tax
anyway,
so
we
would
probably
yeah
there's
just
not
a
lot.
K
A
I
Paul
is
paul
logan's
here
to
describe
the
process
and
and
the
findings
some
of
the
findings
that
have
come
out
of
the
the
process
that
we've
been
in
for
the
last,
oh
most,
probably
two
years,
if
not
more,
and
so
I
just
want
to
to
set
it
up
to
talk
briefly
about
why.
Why
do
we
put
so
much
time
and
energy
into
a
comprehensive
plan?
I
I
They
put
hours
and
hours
of
work
into
this,
and
I
think
that
it
helps
for
people
to
understand
that
when
we
talk
about
policy
like
complete
streets
or
some
other
type
of
policy,
wastewater
sustainability,
bike
trails,
bike
paths
and
when
we
say
well,
we
know
our
community
wants
these
things.
That's
because
we've
gone
through
this
planning
process.
That's
when
we
say
in
our
sustainability
plan.
I
L
Chris
council,
good
evening,
it's
been
a
really
long
day,
for
I
think,
a
lot
of
city
employees
with
the
passing
of
ray
karen
and
everything
else
going
on
in
the
world.
So
I
will
try
to
be
brief
this
evening.
I
know
council's
been
already
on
for
over
hour
and
ten
minutes,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
this
down
to
about
10
minutes
and
then
allow
for
some
discussion.
Of
course
I
do
have
just
a
couple.
L
L
Just
so
everybody
is
clear.
That's
a
that's
a
that
document.
Upon
adoption.
We
will
be
cleaning
that
up
and
making
it
into
an
attractive
glossy
type
document
with
maps
pictures
and
nice
graphics.
We
have.
We
have
a
few
different
versions
of
that,
but
what
I
found
out
was
every
time
I
would
make
an
edit
here
or
there.
It
would
take
hours
to
try
to
reconfigure
all
that
and
communicate
with
the
person
who
is
assisting
me
with
desktop
layout
layout.
L
H
L
Fall
mentioned
just
you
know,
give
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
on
the
plan.
Our
current
comprehensive
plan
was
was
completed
by
a
consulting
firm
pogomeyer
out
of
the
toledo
area.
Was
it
a
very
expensive
process?
I
know
budgets
are
really
a
concern
for
council
and
for
the
administration
that
cost.
I
believe,
the
price
for
that
plan
back
in
the
early
2000s
exceeded
000
to
consultants.
L
L
L
Excuse
me
hold
on,
and
the
city's
affordable
housing
committee
for
our
plan.
We
did
take
a
20-year
approach
to
the
plan,
looking
at
it
as
basically
saying
where
do
we
want
to
be
in
the
year
2040
and
it's
year,
2020,
so
a
20-year
plan
we're
right
on
on
on
pace
there,
and
then
it's
also
it's
a
comprehensive
plan.
It's
so
it's
comprehensive
in
nature.
We're
looking
at
a
lot
of
different
issues,
a
lot
of
different
topics
and
then
trying
to
put
all
of
that
together.
L
Some
of
these
topics
are
rooted
in
land
use.
Others
are
rooted
in
policies
and
and
goals
that
the
city
wants,
or
policies
that
the
community
expects
us
to
have
when
we
were
going
through
the
plan,
the
process,
strategies
for
public
engagement.
Things
like
that
there
was
a
few
things
that
I
was
keeping
in
mind,
the
entire
time
that
that
I
thought
were
really
important
from
my
understanding
of
the
last
planning
process,
but
also
to
my
goals
as
a
as
a
planner,
one
of
which
was.
L
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
citizen
engagement
in
the
plan.
We
I
we
try
to
be
flexible
on
that.
Not
just
have
people
come
to
meetings
at
seven
o'clock
at
night
on
a
week
night,
knowing
that
people
are
really
busy
have
a
lot
of
other
things
that
they
need
to
do
every
evening,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
could
be
heard
even
if
they
couldn't
attend
a
public
meeting.
L
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
made
sure
that
we
had
contributions
from
people
who
are
often
underrepresented
in
planning
processes
that
can
be
people
of
low-income
minorities,
black
people,
people
dis
with
disabilities.
Also
in
athens.
It
means
college
students.
We
typically
don't
ask
college
students
their
opinions
on
things
and
for
our
this
plan.
We,
that
was
a
goal
I
had
was
to
make
sure
that
we
had
feedback
from
college
students
and
about
their
thoughts
and
experiences
living
in
athens.
L
The
plan,
of
course,
that's
responsive
to
our
citizens,
concerns
their
thoughts
about
the
future
of
athens
and
we
we
were
caught.
We
were
aware,
of
course,
that
there's
external
influences
that
impact
our
community
things
that
city
council
may
not
have
control
over
the
city
administration
mike
some
of
those
can
be
totally
unexpected.
Things
such
as
scooters
and
ride,
share
and
things
along
those
lines
that
are
kind
of
technological
changes
that
come
out
of
silicon
valley
that
are
kind
of
thrust
on
us,
other
things,
of
course,
external
influences.
L
L
For
sake
of
time,
I'm
going
to
jump
forward
to
what
I
think
is
probably
the
most
important
thing
for
city
council
to
be
aware
of
at
this
point-
and
these
are
the
broad
takeaways,
the
the
really
big
picture
of
what
this
plan
means.
What
is
really
important
for
us
to
be
focused
on
as
elected
officials
and
as
administrators
and
as
leaders
in
our
community,
the
first
of
which
is
the
need
to
diversify
the
economy.
L
We're
running
through
that
right
now,
of
course,
with
budget
cuts
at
ohio
university
and
just
how
important
it
is
that
we
have.
We
have
options
for
people
to
to
have
businesses
in
this
community
and
to
grow
businesses,
and,
although
we
are
very
ohio
university,
of
course,
is
a
key
component
of
what
athens
is.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
other
options
there.
So
when
ohio
university
runs
has
a
downturn,
we
have
ways
to
to
minimize
that
it's
also.
L
L
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
options
for
us
to
really
say
how
do
we
want
to
grow
out,
but
we
do
have
and
we're
also
a
relatively
built
out
community
already.
There's
not
a
lot
of
available
land
within
our
city.
Limits
should
also
be
noted
that
renewable
energy
sustainability
initiatives
things
things
along
those
lines,
getting
us
towards
carbon
neutrality,
getting
us
off
of
carbon
or
off
of
coal.
L
That
is
incredibly
important
to
our
community.
I
think
we
probably
are
aware
of
that
by
now,
however,
we
we
kept
hearing
that
there's
more,
that
we
should
be
trying
to
do
to
get
us
off
of
off
of
carbon
and
then
towards
renewable
energies
should
also
be
noted.
Of
course,
public
art
is
very
well
received
by
our
community.
L
We
get
a
lot
of
compliments
when
we
do
public
art.
Historic
preservation
is
very
important
to
the
citizens
of
athens.
Those
are
two
of
the
things
I
think
that
make
us
look
good.
You
know
if
we're
thinking
about
how
do
we
show
off
athens,
and
so
that's
important
to
note
we're
also
going
to
have
some
change
coming
forward
within
our
corridors,
especially
with
union
street
and
simpson
avenue
we're
seeing
some
change
on
stimson
already
we've
got
a
brand
new
gateway.
L
What
I
think
is
really
interesting
about
this
bullet
point,
because
it's
a
question
of
how
do
we
make
athens
a
home
for
people
not
not
just
a
place
that
they
live
or
a
place
that
they
think
is
nice
but
a
place
where
they
feel
they
are
part
of,
and
so
that
has
to
do
come
down
to
the
core
of.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
people
feel
included
welcome,
but
also
that
they
can
be
complete,
complete
people
living
in
our
community?
L
And
we
there's
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
need
to
address.
I
think
when
it
comes
to
conclusions,
but
we
also
heard
that
a
lot
of
people
think
we're
working
really
hard
on
that
also
keep
key
takeaway
when
we,
when
we
plan
for
people
who
are
not
as
able-bodied
as
most
of
us
might
be
right
now,
but
we
have
benefits
for
everybody,
and
so
when
we
focus
on
the
needs
of
people
with
disabilities,
we
we
are
making
a
community
that's
more
accessible
for
them,
but
also
is
safer
for
everybody
else.
L
And
lastly,
one
more
key
takeaway
is:
it
has
to
do
with
our
housing
needs
and
what
we
heard
and
what
we've
seen
through
this
planning
process
is
that,
on
the
whole,
our
housing
needs
are
not
being
met
very
well
in
athens.
There's
about
two
there's
two
types
of
housing
that
we
typically
do.
We
do
single-family
residential
and
we
do
off-campus
student
rentals,
that's
about
it.
L
If
somebody
is
looking
for
different
housing,
styles,
adults
looking
for
apartments
or
townhouses
or
condominiums,
or
seniors
looking
for
housing
or
people
who
have
low
incomes.
There's
a
lot
of
challenges
there
to
to
actually
getting
housing
in
athens.
People
who
are
moving
here
for
jobs
have
a
very
difficult
time
finding
housing
here
we're
also
seeing
there's.
L
You
know:
we've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
already
today,
but
people
we
think
there's
people
who
want
to
live
in
athens
because
they
cannot
tell
the
commute
to
jobs
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
housing
available
to
them
so
focusing
on
housing
for
everybody,
making
sure
that
we
have
housing
options
for
people
and
different
just
a
little
bit
more
variety.
Besides
single-family
residential
and
off-campus
student,
rentals
will
go
a
long
way
towards
making
athens
a
better
community.
L
E
E
L
Just
just
to
point
out
to
the
council
representative
lee's
comment
about
participation
in
the
plan
we
had,
I
believe
over
400
people,
different
people
participate
in
the
plan
and
one
way
or
another.
Some
of
that
was
some
small
group
discussions.
Of
course,
some
of
it
was
in
town
hall,
style,
large
meetings.
We
did
a
lot
of
stakeholder
engagement
online
survey
work.
We
did
meetings
on
campus,
where
we
sat
down
and
talked
to
students
both
in
classes
and
we
tried
to
catch
them
between
classes
and
better
understand
their
issues.
L
L
My
goals
were
met
with
that
I
can
also
say,
as
a
planner
one
of
the
nice
things
about
working
in
a
community
like
athens,
is
people
actually
do
want
to
participate
in
this
stuff?
I
know
some
of
my
colleagues
who
work
in
planning
are
constantly
frustrated
that
they
they
can't
get
participation
and
stuff
like
this.
So
one
of
the
things
I
always
say
is
my
job
is
a
lot
easier
in
athens,
because
people
have
opinions
and
they
don't
want
to
talk
about
it
and.
L
Parts
of
planning
come
up
from
ideas
we
that
we
hear
in
these
meetings.
There's
no
doubt
about
the
community
shapes
a
lot
of
this
and
they're.
They
know
what's
going
on
and
they
they
also
travel
around.
They
see
they've,
seen
a
lot
of
different
communities
and
a
lot
of
different
experiences,
so
they
have
good
insight
into
things
that
might
work
well
in
athens.
B
Thank
you,
member
follow
yeah.
I
just
want
to
echo
thanks
to
planner
paul
and
his
staff,
and
I
wanted
to
specifically
say
that
I
really
like
that
you
came
to
campus
and
that
you
came
to
our
neighborhoods.
I
mean
I
feel,
like
you
didn't
just
do
it
online
or
do
it
at
the
community
center
and
say
come
to
us
yeah.
You
know
you
you.
You
came
to
the
community
and
I
I
really
appreciate
that.
J
D
D
You
know
it
to
not
to
beat
a
dead
horse,
but
when
I
attended
the
first
actually
I
participated
in
the
and
I'm
sure
some
other
people
here
also
did
the
same
thing,
but
I
did
participate
in
that
original
planning
document
that
was
back
in
the
early
2000s
and
when
I
attended
the
meeting
for
the
to
to
kick
this
one
off.
Everyone
at
my
table
had
participated
in
the
last
plan,
and
so
I
do
really
like
that.
D
You
figured
out
other
ways
to
engage
with
people
that
didn't
necessarily
want
to
go
to
a
big
meeting.
You
know
you
got
everybody
from
the
early
2000s
in
that
first
meeting
and
I
feel,
like
you,
picked
up
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
other
people
along
the
way
and
I
think
about
what
we
have
to
do
as
a
council,
and
I
always
when
people
ask
me
what
are
some
of
the
more
difficult
tasks.
D
D
My
only
I
guess,
my
only
question
that
I
have
is:
is
there
any
time
that
say
we
did
see
a
large
shift
in
in
what
the
city
did
as
for
like
employment
or
or
something
else
is
there?
Is
there
any
type
of
readjust
or
amendment
or
anything
like
that?
That
gets
approached
part
way
through
the
through
the
document
timeline.
L
L
L
Also,
you
know
what
major
changes
might
have
occurred,
that
we
weren't
anticipating,
and
so
I
think,
as
long
as
we're
kind
of
going
along
that
route
of
you
know,
if
a
significant
change
happens
with
our
employment
mix,
for
example,
or
a
large
employer
comes
into
our
community
or
something
major
like
that,
we
might
want
to
look
and
see
and
see
what's
happening
there.
I
can
think
of
some
communities,
especially
especially
in
the
south
and
out
west
in
texas,
georgia,
where
communities
is
booming.
L
You've
got
some
towns
in
texas
that
had
like
a
thousand
people
for
40
years
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
now
they've
they've
grown
by
20
to
50
000
people
within
within
10
years
because
of
migration
into
the
dallas
metroplex
area.
So
I
think
if
you
know,
if
there's
some,
if
there's
a
major
change
with
our
population
or
demand,
I
do
think
we.
We
probably
want
to
be
looking
to
say.
Well,
you
know
what
what
do
we
need
to
do
here
and
then
having
some
discussions
on
that.
I
Right
well
and
something
that
will
go
forward
after
the
city
adopts.
The
plan
is
that
we
will
develop
a
ad
hoc
what
we
did
with
the
last
plan.
We
developed
an
ad
hoc
committee
that
went
through
the
plan
developed
baselines
for
what
was
being
looked
at
in
the
plan
and
what
was
being
proposed,
established
priorities
and
some
of
the
stuff
that
we
did
for
council
came
right
out
of
that
process.
I
The
sustainability
commission
came
out
of
that
process,
and
that
was
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
from
the
other
plan
was,
as
city
council
put,
that
forward,
so
that
there
is
ways
to
update
and
also
when
we
do
another
plan
like
a
pedestrian
plan
or
a
safe
route
to
school
pro
plan
in
the
future.
That
information
goes
back
and
can
be
put
back
into
this,
so
that
you
can
update
things
fairly
easily.
So
that's
that's
one
process,
so
mayor.
H
You
know
just
to
add
to
to
paul's
comment,
and
yours
remember,
fall
to
pete's.
Remember
kotzis's
question
is
that
you
know
in
2015
and
into
2016.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
I
I
passed
paul
with
was
to
go
through
city
planner,
paul
luke,
to
look
at
the
comprehensive
plan
to
see
where
we
were,
and
that
was
year
11
into
the
current
comprehensive
plan,
and
we
realized
that
we
were
about.
H
We
had
accomplished
approximately
80
to
85
percent
of
the
objectives
in
the
comprehensive
plan
and
not
wanting
to
wait
until
the
year
2026
to
come
up
with
a
new
comprehensive
plan.
You
know
we
we
set
to
work
on
a
new,
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
it's
it's
pretty
dynamic
member
consists,
or
I
agree
with
paul.
We
should
constantly
be
reviewing
the
comprehensive
plan
to
see
where
we're
at
to
see
what
has
already
been
delivered,
but
also
to
look
at
things
that
are
in
the
comprehensive
plan
and
better
understand
why
they
may
not
have
been
achieved.
H
That
was
another
thing
that
the
planner
logan
I
sat
down
and
tried
to
get
our
heads
wrapped
around.
What
were
the
stumbling
blocks?
What
are
some
of
the
issues
that
were
difficult
to
accomplish
and
a
good
example
of
that
would
be.
The
rezoning
of
the
north
block
of
court
street,
which
was
b3
and
of
lately,
was
rezone
b2d,
and
that
was
in
that
comprehensive,
the
current
comprehensive
plan
and
trying
to
understand
what
was
going
on.
So
we
will
continue
to
monitor
this
annually.
H
If
not,
you
know
every
other
year,
because
I
think
that's
important.
The
speed
at
which
we
got
through
80
of
the
current
comprehensive
plan
is
pretty
impressive
and
you
know,
hopefully
we
can
hopefully,
as
a
as
a
progressive,
forward-thinking
community.
We
can
continue
to
accomplish
a
lot
of
what
is
in
the
the
comprehensive
plan,
vision,
2040.
H
I
True,
so
other
questions
or
comments,
so
the
reason
I
call
planner
paul
planner
paul
at
one
point
had
three:
we
had
two
pauls
and
one
pauline
aunt,
paula
in
city
council,
the
city
administration,
so
it
got
very
confusing,
so
they
kind
of
got
their
nomenclature
of
planner,
paul
and
mayor
paul.
And
so
that's
why
it's
my
it's
my
planners
are
awesome,
but
I'm
very
particularly
so.
I
I
recommend
that
everybody,
especially
because
this
with
this
particular
update.
I
think
that
the
presentation
for
the
neighborhoods
is
going
to
be
a
lot
more
accessible
for
people
and
and
such
than
the
last
one,
and
so
that's
kind
of
like
a
recipe
that
a
lot
of
people
can
look
at
and
then
work
with
with
people
in
the
community
who
are
interested
in
it.
And
I
think
that
that
will
go
forward
and
get
a
lot
more
community
involvement
and
stuff.
I
I
think,
on
the
other
side
of
covid
people
are
going,
and
the
community
and
working
together
and
being
able
to
see
somebody
in
person
is
really
important
and
that
we're
going
to
be
a
stronger
community
afterwards
and
be
able
to
go
forward
with
a
lot
of
of
the
work
that
paul's
been
putting
forward.
Chris.
A
A
comment
that
we,
we
are
very
fortunate
because
we
have
a
planner
paul,
but
we
also
have
a
planner
chris,
and
so,
thanks
to
you,
I
think,
for
helping
energize
this
whole
process
paul
for
creating
the
document
that
shows
just
from
the
very
physical
structure
of
the
the
written
document
itself.
Here's
what
we
heard
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
by
neighborhood,
which
is
really
exciting
and
you're
right
chris.
I
think
it
will
energize
people.
A
I
H
I'll
be
brief,
it's
worth
noting
that
this
did
come
through
the
planning
commission.
We
met
at
least
three
times
as
paul
walked
us
through
every
chapter,
which
was
wonderful,
paul
city
planners,
typically
at
the
planning
commission
meetings
anyway.
But-
and
it
did,
you
know,
pass
unanimously-
well
majority
vote,
it
went
through
planning,
commission
and
on
to
city
council,
and
it
didn't
really
necessarily
have
to
go
through
the
planning
commission,
but
I
deemed
it
important,
so
we
can
at
least
get
it
out
to
the
public
as
much
as
possible.
I
A
J
Thank
you,
president
nicely.
We
have
one
agenda
item
this
evening
and
that
involves
proposed
changes
to
city
water
and
sewer
rates
and
other
rates
related
to
those.
So
I
will
just
briefly
state
what
the
the
proposals
that
have
been
sent
to
me
and
so
for
the
sewer
rate.
The
proposal
is
a
four
percent
increase.
J
The
the
rate
is
two
dollars
and
the
proposed
increase
would
take
it
to
four
dollars
for
commercial.
It
is
currently
for
both
commercial
and
industrial,
and
the
new
rate
would
be
six
dollars.
So
that's
those
are,
are
the
proposed
increases
on
the
storm
water
rate,
and
then
there
are
some
additional
fees.
Also
septage
receiving
is
currently
five
cents
and
is
proposed
to
go
to
six
and
a
half
delinquency.
Letters
are
currently
a
fifteen
dollar
fee,
with
a
proposed
increase
to
a
25
fee.
J
For
instance,
if
there's
a
plumbing
emergency
at
a
location
and
the
plumber
needs
to
have
the
water
shut
off
at
the
meter,
then
someone
from
the
city
goes
and
we
don't
currently
charge
a
fee.
For
that.
That's
my
understanding,
but
of
course
the
city
does
pay
for
that
employee
to
go
to
do
that,
perform
that
service
and
it
as
as
emergencies,
tend
to
happen.
It's
often
probably
night
weekend
things
like
that.
So
so
there
is
a
cost
to
the
city
and
that
that
proposed
fee
would
be
either
forty
or
fifty
dollars.
J
I,
the
information,
I
have,
has
it
undecided
at
this
time.
My
my
questions
related
to
these
different
increases
are
are
about
one.
I
I
understand
that
you
know
like
our
storm
water,
increa
storm
water
rate
hasn't
increased
for
some
time,
but
the
sewer
and
trash
have
have
both
increased
recently
and
these
go
on
the
same
bill
to
the
consumer
to
our
residents.
J
I
I
honestly
I'm
concerned
about
even
having
a
15
fee
on
that,
let
alone
increasing
it
to
twenty
five
dollars
and
if,
if
I'm
misunderstanding,
what
is
involved
in
the
delinquency
letter
fee,
someone
please
correct
me
on
that,
but
and
and
then
also
the
transfer
turn
on
fee,
because
that,
as
far
as
just
the
cost
for
establishing
a
new,
a
new
resident
that
to
pay
50
to
get
your
water
transfer
to
your
name.
If
again,
if
that's
correct,
that's
what
that
fee
is
that
also
seems
pricey.
J
The
first
time
that
this,
if
if
this
is
put
into
legislation
the
first
reading
for
this
would
be
december
7th,
and
so
I
I'm
concerned
about
the
timing
of
this
I'm
concerned
about
passing
legislation
right
before
the
holiday.
That
is
a
rate
increase
on
our
customers
as
soon
as
like
the
the
very
next
billing
cycle
right
after
the
first
of
the
year,
and
so
well,
while
introducing
the
the
information
that
is
had
it's
been
sent
to
me.
J
G
If
somebody
I
mean
remember,
grace
already
said
it
basically,
but
I
guess
I
just
want
to
reiterate
if
somebody
is
struggling
financially
enough,
that
it's
hard
to
pay
the
water
bill,
then
increasing
a
fee
that
I
think
might
be
better
not
to
have
at
all
would
make
it
even
harder
for
them
to
catch
up
and
they
would
perhaps
be
more
likely
to
have
their
water
turned
off.
So,
if
there's
a
way
not
to
increase
that
delinquency
letter
fee,
I
think
that
would
be
kinder
for
people
who
are
struggling
right
now.
J
I
I
raising
my
hand
forgetting
that
I'm
sharing
this
current
meeting
so
on.
I
do
believe
that,
because
the
city
is
is
not
currently
doing
any
shutoffs,
I
I
don't
believe
that
any
delinquency
letters
are
going
out
at
this
time
because
there
are
no
offs
happening,
and
I
I
see
the
mayor
nodding
and
confirming
that.
I
Thank
you.
I
want
to
kind
of
explain
explain
why
a
stormwater
fund
is
an
important
fund.
Basically
well
part
of
it.
Is
that
the
epa
does
you
require
certain
regulations
and
rules
to
be
followed
and
reporting,
but
at
the
same
time,
stormwater
is
a
significant
contribution
to
to
non-point
water
source
pollution,
which
impacts
not
only
the
hawking,
but
all
our
smaller
rivers
margaret
river,
margaret
creek,
is
an
excellent
example
of
that
sort
of
thing.
With
runoff
going
in
and
causing
fecal
people
high
fecal
counts
those
sort
of
things.
I
That's
why
we
don't
that's
why
we
have
a
stormwater
system
that
we're
trying
to
develop
and
manage
in
a
more
holistic
approach,
and
so
it
really
is
important
to
not
only
the
city's
health,
the
environment's
health,
but
also
downstream,
because
what
goes
into
the
hawking
usually
is
being
drinken
by
somebody
else
downstream.
So
we
all
have
to
you
know
think
about
that
when
we're
changing
our
oil
that
goes
into
the
storm
water
that
goes
into
the
hocking,
which
is
very
bad.
So
that's
why
we
have
that.
Thank
you.
D
J
I
I
do
think
that
that
is
definitely
a
possibility.
With
this.
The
stormwater
rate
increase
that
perhaps,
if,
if
small,
incremental
increases
to
adjust
for
just
cost
of
management,
changes
were
made
along
the
way,
then
we
we
wouldn't
have
more
significant
increases
all
done
at
one
point
in
time
which
which
we
saw
that
the
same
thing
happened
with
our
garbage
rates
earlier
this
year
that
when,
when
general
cost
of
of
operating
things
gradually
increases
but
the
the
rates
don't
we
do
hit
these
these
points
at
time.
F
That
is
that's
my
understanding
as
well:
okay,
council
member
cops.
This
is
right.
I
had
tina
rogers
from
utilities
billing
reach
out
to
nelsonville,
albany
and
other
entities
that
charge
rates
like
this,
and
we
definitely
had
lower
rates
than
those
entities,
and
so
the
rate
suggestions
were
simply
based
on
comparisons
to
other
locales
in
athens
county
and
then
some
of
them
did
charge
for
a
call
out.
After
our
call
out
where
we
didn't.
F
I
talked
with
just
specifically
about
that
fee.
Jessica,
dyne
indicated.
That
would
be
very
helpful
because
there
are
contractors
who
will
call
at
the
last
minute
at
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
for
a
water
shutoff
across
the
city,
overtime
dollars
to
perform
that
function,
and
so
she
felt
this
would
be
a
good
deterrent,
for
you
know
that
kind
of
fee
for
preventing
contractors
from
from
poor
planning,
and
things
like
that.
F
F
I
think
the
auditor
reviewed
it
and-
and
I
didn't
hear
any
any
negative
criticism
of
andrew
chicky's
numbers,
but
when
he
factored
in
the
proposed
rates
in
his
in
his
review,
the
the
average
2000
gallon
a
month
customer
for
water
sewer
and
storm
water
fees
would
realize
a
3.87
increase
would
go
from
53.52
for
2,
000
gallons.
That's
all
three
fees
raised
to
57.39.
F
We
can
verify
those
numbers
and
have
the
auditor
look
at
that
if
with
his
numbers,
if
they
haven't,
but
pretty
sure
they
that
he
sent
that
to
him.
So
you
know
these
are
just
proposals.
I
will
say
that
that
the
auditors
done
their
run
their
own
numbers
on
this,
and
I'm
sure
the
auditor
heck
will
speak
to
this
and
they
recommend
that
we
raise
these.
The
water
and
sewer
rates
to
to
stay
in
the
black
with
those
funds.
B
B
We
had
a
contract
that
we
needed
the
fees
from
residents
to
pay
for
so
that
was
you
know
a
new
contract
and
you're
right
member
grace
that
cost
of
services
had
increased,
but
we,
the
the
director
riggs,
set
the
increases
for
trash
and
recycling
to
be
able
to
pay
the
contract
that
athens,
talking.
Recycling
centers
had
had
won
the
rfp
process
and
I
think
we're
in
a
somewhat
unfortunately,
similar
situation
with
sewer.
B
Is
that
the
especially
with
the
the
the
work
that
we've
had
done
at
our
wastewater
treatment
plant?
We
we
have
rates
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
pay
our
pay
our
bills,
but
we
can
hear
more
specifically,
I'm
also
interested
in
what
other
communities
rates
are.
We've
looked
at
that
very
closely
when
we
went
through
the
recycling
and
waste
process,
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
instructive
for
this
process
as
well.
B
I
did
want
to
ask
if
the
city
administration
knew
at
all
if
the
delay
in
the
counties
sewer
project
going
to
the
east
of
the
city
and
the
tap
fees
that
the
city
might
have
seen
for
the
sewer
have
impacted
our
our
sewer
budget.
If,
by
that
process,
not
happening
as
quickly
as
we
thought,
whether
that's
also
impacted
the
amount
of
money
we
have
in
our
sewer
fund
to
pay
our
debt.
If,
if
that
makes
sense,
thank
you.
Member
grace.
J
Thank
you
and
yes,
I.
I
appreciate
those
comments.
Member
crowl
and
I
I
certainly
understand
if
much
like
in
in
the
situation
we
were
in
with
the
garbage
fund
when
we
have
a
an
obligation-
and
in
that
case
we
we
are
obligated
to
provide
sanitary
services
for
the
city
and,
and
we
have
have
reviewed
the
options,
the
contracts
the
proposals
submitted.
Then
then
we
do
need
to
to
take
the
steps
necessary
in
order
to
pay
for
those
services,
and
it
is
the
same
with
our
sewer
and
water
rates.
I
Go
along
with
that,
maybe
we
could
phase
in
the
the
increases,
instead
of
it
being
four
percent
in
the
first
month-
phase
it
in
over
three
months
or
something
so
that
people
can
budget
better,
because
it's
hard,
it's
really
hard
to
budget
right
now
and
christmas
is
going
to
be
really
hard
and
stuff.
So
thank
you.
J
K
Issues
well,
several
things.
First
of
all,
the
environmental
control
environmental
control
officer
position
is
is
important.
We
are
already
taking
35
000
we're
paying
for
that
contract
will
be
towards
that
position.
So
that's
you
know
a
help
right
there.
I
think
that
if
anybody
knows
the
lab
tax,
they
realize
you
know
how
important
their
positions
are
and
that
we
could
very
easily
be
left
with
no
backup
for
those
positions,
and
it's
important
that
we,
we
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that,
and
this
was
one
of
them.
K
To
my
knowledge,
we
have
increased
sewer
rates
every
year
same
with
water
rates,
although
that's
not
a
council
issue
every
year,
because
that's
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
We
cannot
not
increase
those
rates
when
we
have
a
lot
of
employees
in
that
department
who
have
automatic
contract
raises,
just
as
the
non-union
people
are
going
to
get
their
increase
in
this
year
cost
of
living.
You
know
it's
and
when
we
do
that,
that
means
we
pay
more
for
everything
else
for
all
their
their
benefits.
K
We
we
jessica
and
andy
did
a
you
know
a
spreadsheet
and
went
out
actually
30
years.
20
years
is
a
normal
planning
for
that,
but
and
looked
at
what
we
would
need
to
increase
every
year
to
pay
for
those
24
million
dollar
improvements,
and
some
of
those
increases
were
five,
eight
nine
percent
on
their
chart.
They
have
more
than
that.
I
asked
them
to
redo
it
and
never
make
it
double
digits.
K
You
know,
I
just
think,
that's
a
lot
for
people
to
take,
but,
and
so
they
did,
but
we
have
an
obligation
to
fund
these
operations
and
they
are
supposed
to
be
self-supporting,
and
so
I
I
can't
imagine
why
we
wouldn't
increase
the
rates
every
year.
I
know
this
is
a
terrible
time
and
I
get
that,
but
I
think
that
the
the
three
percent
is
kind
of
like
what
we
did
all
the
time,
whether
we
were
sure
we
needed
it
or
not.
You
know
we
probably
did,
but
you
know
I.
K
K
Sewer
has
been
struggling
in
my
mind
for
several
years,
and
maybe
it
is
partly
because
of
those
improvements
that
we're
still
paying
off,
but
the
debt
service
in
these
funds
is
just
phenomenal
and
our
water
plant
improvements,
loan
payments
or
bond
payments
actually
start
in
january.
That
is
a
6.7
million
million
dollar
project.
K
The
bond
payments
are
extensive
and
I
can
send
you
whatever
you
want.
However,
if
you,
if
anybody
wants
to
see
how
what
the
operations
involve
they're
in
the
reports
that
my
office
sends
out
monthly
and
if
you
even
just
look
on
your
abbreviated,
you
know
the
budget
ordinance
you'll,
see
that
water
and
sewer
broken
out
into
three
sections.
We
have
plans,
we
have
maintenance
and
we
have
administration,
so
the
costs
are
are
they're
extensive.
K
Those
are
big
operations
and
I
just
I
don't
think
that
what
we're
asking
for
is
any
more
than
we
should
be
asking
for
anyway,
and
as
tom
said,
it
might
come
out,
and
maybe
we
should
look
into
that
people
do
like
specific
amounts.
We
like
it,
you
know
we
live
right
in
town
and
you
see
what
it
really
means
to
people,
and
you
know
work
around
that.
K
I
thought
the
stormwater
fees
were
going
to
go
from
two
to
three
dollars
for
residential
and
you
had
about
two
to
four.
So
I
don't
know
when
that
got
changed,
but
you
know
we
could
rethink
that.
Maybe
you
know
I
get
what
you're
saying
I
live
on
the
west
side.
I
know
how
people
live
in
athens,
not
everybody
lives
out
in
university
estates,
and
but
I
I
just
feel
that
we
have
a
legal
obligation
to
to
fund
these
operations
and
everybody
wants
water.
Everybody
wants
their
toilet
to
flush.
K
K
Oh
my
gosh,
you
know
we
we
need
a
10
increase
and
I
hate
when
they
do
that
to
me
you
know-
and
it's
just
like
we
have
to
do
at
least
a
minimal
increase.
As
I
said
you
know,
our
sewer
debt
is
about
1.25
million
a
year.
That's
just
our
debt,
that's
not
all
of
those
employees
and
the
operations,
the
cost
of
vehicles.
K
The
total
in
those
three
water
and
sewers,
like
1.7
plus
million
dollars,
and
you
know,
water's,
taking
on
154
000
a
year
new
payment
for
the
water
treatment
plant.
That
stuff's
not
not
cheap,
and
I
just
think
that
I
think
that
january
1st
is
the
absolute
appropriate
time
to
do
that.
And
that's
when
we've
always
done
that,
except
for
times
in
between
when
we
had
something
special
like
plant
improvements
and
that's
how
some
of
those
other
ones
came
about,
and
I
don't
know
what
else
to
tell
you.
K
I
just
feel
like
there's
no
way
around
this
one,
and
you
know
if
you
want
to
maybe
work
with
the
administration
on
on
some
of
the
other
fees.
You
know
and
hold
off,
or
I
don't
know.
They're
they're
certainly
not
unreasonable,
but,
as
you
said,
maybe
now
is
not
the
time
to
bring
them
up
to
everybody
else's
costs,
but
the
fees
that
we
have
to
have.
K
We
just
really
have
to
have-
and
I
think
four
and
three
percent
are
really
minimal
and
I
can
research
and
go
back
and
see
what
those
increases
wherever
you,
because
I
have
to
fill
out
a
survey
for
owda
every
year
and
show
any
increases.
I
have
to
include
any
ordinances
or
letters
from
the
ssd
showing
the
increases
and
how
much
we
brought
in
how
much
our
operating
costs
are,
how
much
debt
service
we
carry
and
how
many
customers
we
have
number
of
delinquent
customers.
K
They
want
to
know
that
we
are
collecting
enough
money
to
pay
our
debt
obligations,
so
I
you
know,
I
can
send
you
copies
of
those
too
and
we
have
to
have
insurance
and
you
know
all
kinds
of
stuff.
So
I
don't
know
what
else
to
tell
you,
but
in
my
mind
the
water
and
sewer
increases
are
really
not
unreasonable
and
not
avoidable.
K
For
january
1st,
we
are
we're
going
to
be
in
trouble,
especially
in
the
sewer
fund,
and
I
I
think
just
to
put
another
spin
on
it
is
we've
got
more
than
twice
the
number
of
delinquent
accounts
right
now
than
we
did
pre-covert
we're
gonna.
We
have
seen
a
reduced
amount
of
revenue
in
water
sewer
and
storm
water,
just
like
you
know,
in
lots
of
other
areas
like
parking
and
meters
and
tickets
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
K
I
will
send
you
anything
extra
that
you
want
and
I
think
I've
gotten
in
the
habit
of
sending
information
to
the
finance
committee.
That
doesn't
I
mean
I'm
fine
if
that
stuff
is
forwarded,
forwarded
it's
all
public
record,
but
I
feel,
like
some
council
members
might
be
like.
What's
she
sending
me
this
for,
but
we
keep
a
debt
schedule
can
show
you
all
of
our
debt
interest
rates,
payments,
etcetera.
K
Our
inappropriate
balance
sheet
is
very
helpful.
Our
fund
balance
sheets,
our
fund
balance
amounts,
are
you
know
in
our
monthly
reports,
but
those
might
be
helpful
to
everyone.
I'm
happy
to
send
those
out
now
to
give
you
an
idea
what
what
our
debt
service
looks
like
for
next
year.
You
know
we've
taken
on
another
500
000
loan
in
the
general
fund
for
fire
equipment,
and
you
know
so
we
just
can't
stop
operating
and
we
have
to
fund
it,
and
we
just
have
to
do
what
we
can.
K
J
One.
Would
this
also,
then
have
to
have
an
emergency
clause-
clerk
walker
yeah.
So
so
I
I
I
would
really
appreciate
adequate
time,
for
if,
if
this
is,
is
an
expected
increase
that
we
need
to
do
to
cover
our
debt
obligations,
then
I
feel
we
should
have
adequate
time
for
it
to
go
through
the
process
in
a
in
a
timely
manner,
without
emergencies
or
special
special
meetings
being
required.
And
ideally,
I
think
like
this.
J
H
H
I
know,
but
the
the
lion's
share
of
the
customers
or
taps
are
going
to
be
in
the
first
phase
and
once
they
get
a
good
bid,
I
mean
that's.
The
whole
thing
is
that
they
have
gone
out
twice
already.
Hopefully,
a
third
time's,
a
charm,
and
if
they
come
in
with
acceptable
bids,
then
part
of
that
agreement
is
that
the
tap
fees
for
the
first
four
phases.
H
As
we've
worked
this
through
with
chief
pyle
and
the
county
commissioners,
is
that
the
remaining
four
phases,
the
the
county-
has
three
years
total
in
which
to
have
those
phases
in
place
with
the
customers
online,
so
that
we
are
able
to
recoup
those
remaining
tap
fees
in
short
order
and
again,
there
are
very
some
some
clauses
in
there
that
are
helpful,
I
think
to
city
council.
So
this
conversation,
these
rates
is
not
necessarily
tied
to
that
county.
H
Sewer
extension,
although
you
know
that
is
another
piece
of
the
equation
because
of
the
increases
in
load
that
will
be
coming
into
the
city,
but
that's
through
again.
These
tap
fees,
as
well
as
as
some
other
things
that
are
in
that
agreement
with
ini
and
are
metering
at
the
three
connection,
points
for
the
new
sewer
extension.
A
Oh
just
to
mention
that
cleric
of
counsel,
debbie
walker
has
provided
the
debt
payment
due
dates.
That's
a
very
useful
document.
Auditor
heck
and
thank
you.
We've
got
it
on
the
shared
google
drive
and
I
urge
people
to
I
I
always
make
a
copy.
It's
got
its
own
file
folder
for
me
because
it's
a
big,
it's
a
huge
obligation
and
it
is
a
huge
responsibility
to
to
make
sure
we're
bringing
enough
money
in
and
those
proprietary
funds
to
be
able
to
pay
the
debt.
And
the
other
thing
is
the
unappropriated
balance
document.
A
J
K
To
reply
to
your
you're
absolutely
right
about
timing,
I
have
felt
like
a
lot
of
things
have
come
up
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
are
are
later
this
year
than
usual,
and
I
I
just
think
that
you
know
we're
not
leading
the
same
life.
A
lot
of
people
in
this
city,
including
me,
have
worked
from
home.
It's
not
the
same
as
being
there
all
the
time,
and
it's
been
harder,
sometimes
for
me
to
get
a
hold
of
people
to
find
out.
K
What's
going
on
who's
in
charge
of
things,
because
they're
not
available
at
work-
and
you
know
it's
just
kind
of
the
nature
of
what's
happened
and
you're
right,
it
seems
late,
but
I
guess
in
my
mind,
after
all
the
years
of
doing
this,
it's
kind
of
business
as
usual.
This
is
nothing
new,
increasing
water
or
I'm
sorry.
Sewer
rates
is
just
nothing
new.
I've
been
doing
this
18
years
and
it's
19
actually
with
two
years
on
council.
It's
just
nothing
new
and
it's
something
that
we
do.
K
I
think
bringing
up
a
new
position
like
environmental
control
position,
brand
new,
no
precedence
for
us.
You
know
that
takes
more
discussion.
I
I'm
not
sure
this
needs
that
much
more
discussion.
On
the
other
hand,
you're
right
these
are
difficult
times
and
it's
just
really
tough.
So
my
thing
is,
you
know
it's
up
to
council.
K
So
it's
not
up
to
me
to
come
up
with
these
things.
We
have
a
new
service
safety
director
and
it's
one
of
those
things
you
can
sit
in
the
audience
at
council,
as
I
did
every
week
for
for
for
a
year.
But
when
you
get
up
on
that
podium,
it
is
night
and
day-
and
you
know
you
think
you
know
what's
going
on
in
the
city
but
actually
doing
the
job.
K
Is
it's
a
lot
harder
and
I
I
think
there
have
been
a
lot
of
extra
things
that
we're
all
dealing
with
this
year,
two
cobot
funding,
not
the
least
of
them,
and
so
you
know
I
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
things
have
come
up
late
and
on
short
notice.
To
be
honest,
I'm
surprised
that
we
got
our
budget
to
council
starting
in
started
in
october,
honestly
or
november.
I
mean
you
know,
starting
november.
I
mean
it
often
does
three
readings
in
december.
So
and
those
are
even
in
better
times.
K
So
you
know
it's
just
it's
difficult,
but
you
know
it's
up
to
you,
but
that
you
know
those
are
my
opinions
that
about
moving
forward
now
or
not
it's
not
I'm
not
gonna
lose
any
sleep
over
it.
I'm
not
gonna
be
mad
at
anybody.
You
know.
I
have
learned
very
well
that
you
know
I
don't
always
get
my
way
and
I
can
live
with.
J
D
D
D
That's
that's
due
on
june
1st
for
175
000
to
help
pay
for
some
of
those
those
improvements,
we're
not
going
to
make
it,
and
so
administration
has
looked
over
the
what
we
currently
charge
for
our
monthly
users
of
the
parking
garage.
So
this
is
no.
This
is
no
we're
not
looking
at
raising
any
of
the
meter
rates,
so
the
majority
of
short-term
parkers
people
that
would
be
coming
uptown
just
for
for
things
here
and
there
they're
not
going
to
be
impacted,
but
what
we're
looking
at
is
three
different.
D
Three
different
monthly
rates-
one
is
the
reserved
rates
which
are
on
the
first
level
and
below
the
other.
One
are
parking
permits
that
are
on
that
that
are
paid
for
monthly
and
they
park.
I
believe
it's
it's
one
of
the
threes,
it's
one
of
the
third
levels
and
above
they
have
the
option
to
park
there,
and
then
the
last
one
is
the.
Is
the
monthly
parking
spaces
on
on
the
college
street
lot
that
we
that
we
lease
that
whole
area
from
the
presbyterian
church
so
as
follows:
the
the
lower
level
reserve
spaces.
D
D
D
The
final
thing
that
I've
seen
in
the
draft
legislation
that
I
did
want
to
ask
the
service
safety
director
about
this
was
an
added
added
point
where
the
service
safety
director
would
be
allowed
to
do
written
agreements
to
lease
multiple
non-reserve
parking
spaces.
So
that's
three
and
above
and
offer
appropriate
just
an
appropriate
discount,
but
the
minimum
cost
could
not
be
less
than
a
hundred
dollars.
D
So
I
would
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
since
that
wasn't
discussed
to
me
when
I
talked
with
andrew
chicky
or
anyone
else,
just
kind
of
what
kind
of
scenario
we
might
be
looking
at
for
having
that
that
type
of
arrangement
past
that
I
will
say
that
currently
we
do
have
125
000.
We
need
175
000
by
by
june
1st.
They
believe
that
the
rent
increase
might
net
an
additional
33
000.
D
D
G
D
Current
currently
right
now
of
the
50
spaces,
39
of
them
are
are
rented
by
the
county,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
that
means
there's
an
additional
11
spaces
that
are
still
available
for
rent
or
or
does
the
county
take.
The
lion's
share
of
you
know:
do
they
take
80
of
our
of
our
permits,
ssd
pile,
please.
F
F
They
were
essentially
provided
to
the
county
through
an
arrangement
under
previous
administration
and
ssd,
and
so
when
we
looked
at
it,
the
we
thought
the
business
model
could
change
slightly
the
county
employees
rent
those
by
each
department.
So
so
each
you
know
the
like.
For
instance,
one
of
the
common
pleas
judge
may
rent
five
spaces
or
the
sheriff's
office
might
rent
three,
and
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers,
but
that's
how
it's
done.
We
thought.
Maybe
there
would
be.
F
So
as
an
individual
you,
you
would
pay
a
higher
rate,
but
if
an
entity
rented
on
your
behalf
and
did
it
through
bulk,
we
could
provide
a
discount,
and
so
that
would
incentivize
entities
entering
into
those
types
of
agreements.
Currently,
we
have
no
knowledge
of
any
written
agreement
with
the
county
that
that
explains
all
this,
although
we
looked
so,
it
was
apparently
just
done
through
arrangement
of
the
administration
at
the
time
and
that
ordinance
that
exists
now
that
provides
for
50
non-reserved
permit
spaces
for
the
upper
floors.
G
I'm
just
curious,
I
I
really
don't
know
what
the
demand
would
be
for
that.
I
don't
know
if
there'd
be
enough
people
to
get
a
hundred
to
get
50
spots,
but
just
in
case
as
kind
of
a
contingency
plan.
What
if
there
is
a
lot
of
demand
and
more
than
50
people
would
like
those
reserve
spaces?
Do
you
have
a
plan
for
that.
F
You
know
short-term
meter,
rental
people
with
long-term
permit
holders,
but
seems
pretty
consistent
that
there's
175
185
spaces
on
a
daily
basis
available
in
the
parking
garage
when
we're
at
regular
use,
which
is
part
of
the
issue
where
battlings
were
not
at
regular
use.
Parking
garage
hasn't
been
full
since
the
pandemic.
People
there's
just
not
a
demand
for
parking
right
now,
not
at
the
meters
nor
in
the
parking
garage,
and
so
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
raise
revenue
in
the
parking
garage.
G
I
think
overall,
I
think
it's
a
really
smart
approach
and
I'm
glad
you're
thinking
creatively
about
this.
It
will
yeah.
I
think,
you're
really
smart,
to
try
to
balance
the
the
parking
places
that
people
put
their
money
into
versus
the
monthly
rates.
But
I
agree
that
maybe
we
could
have
an
even
higher
number
of
people
who
would
pay
monthly
rates
because
even
before
covid
the
the
garage
was
rarely
full,
except
maybe
for
graduation
or
homecoming,
or
you
know
the
big
weekends
at
ou
but
yeah
it
would
be.
F
So
so
our
hope
is
to
market
it
the
right
way,
because
this
is
you
know,
covered
parking
where
a
lot
of
employees
who
work
in
the
downtown
area
rent
private
spots,
maybe
not
through
their
employer,
but
just
through
you
know
they
bring
them
for
convenience
for
themselves
and
they
have
to
walk
several
blocks
and
their
cars
out
in
the
elements
and
in
wintertime.
We
all
know
how
that
goes,
yeah
and
so
to
be
able
to
lease
a
spot
in
the
parking
garage.
F
Even
if
it's
at
the
125
rate,
as
an
individual
and
have
cover
is
it
could
be,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
attract
new
parkers,
not
move
parkers
from
the
street
into
the
garage
or
move
them
from
meters
to
leases
where
we
don't
really
see
an
increase
in
revenue,
we're
hoping
to
attract
through
this,
this
model,
new
parkers
and
new
entities.
Perhaps
you
know
an
office
at
ohio
university
would
like
to
rent
ten
spaces
for
their
employees,
and
so
my
thought
as
far
as
the
sliding
fee
or
the
discount
would
be.
F
We
would
just
set
a
rate
one
through
five.
Is
this
five
through
15?
Is
that
15
through
25?
Is
that
and
anything
over
whatever
is
100,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
council
had
tight
control
over
the
minimum
because
would
stand
to
reason
if
we
were
going
to
raise
those
50
non-reserve
spots
right
now
from
75.
F
I'm
just
going
to
say
my
my
thinking,
and
that
was
is
that
way.
If
we
did
have
high
demand,
we
wouldn't
have
to
come
back
to
council,
but
also
there'd
be
some
control
of
it
that
we
wouldn't
just
initially
release
out
150
spaces,
we'd
we'd
lease
out
up
to
maybe
100,
maybe
even
75,
to
start,
but
that
gives
us
control
over
how
many
we
release
that,
and
if
we
see
that
we
can
lease
out
150,
then
we
would
do
that,
but
not
at
the
cost
of
the
short-term
progress.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
D
J
F
So
I
believe,
I'm
probably
going
to
give
you
the
wrong
answer
here,
because
I've
heard
so
many
different
rate
increases
and
permit
renewals
and
stuff,
I
believe
they're
initially
a
year,
but
there
is
an
escape
clause
in
the
rental
agreement
that
requires
30
30
days
notice.
So
if
you
get
out
early,
it
costs
you
a
30.
You
have
to
stay
in
for
30
days
from
the
date
of
your
notice.
F
J
And
I
just
wonder
like
right
now
during
covid,
there's
really
low
demand
for
parking.
If
there
are
enough
employees,
though
uptown
that
would
like
to
have
reserve
spaces
right
now,
I
mean
it'd
be
fantastic
if
we
could
run
out
150,
but
maybe
maybe
come
summer
well
summer's,
usually
pretty
slow,
maybe
by
next
fall,
which
is
less
than
a
year
from
now
or
less
a
year
from
when
these
would
be
rented.
There
would
be
higher
demand
for
more
meter
usage
in
the
in
the
garage.
So
that's
what
made
me
wonder
about
the
length
of
the
so.
F
F
You
know
25
people
and
say
hey
we're
we're
not
going
to
lease
your
permit
after
next
month
or
renew
your
permit
after
next
month,
and
they
would,
you
know,
have
to
go,
find
other
parking,
but
and
that's
exactly
why
we
we
wanted
it
that
way
so,
but
that's
all
language
rather
than
putting
it
in
the
ordinance
we
consulted
with
the
law.
Director
she's
been
part
of
this
conversation
and
she
agreed
that
that
would
be
part
of
the
rental
agreement
of
the
lease
agreement.
So
that's
typical.
K
K
Those
are
the
long
term
meters,
and
so
if
something
was
going
on,
and
even
though
you
have
a
hang
tag,
if
you
drive
up
there
and
there
are
no
spaces,
you
know
you're
out
of
luck.
That
won't
happen
again
anytime
soon,
although
it
has
happened
like
if
you're,
like
a
city,
employee,
you
go
out
to
lunch
and
come
back.
Sometimes
you
can't
find
a
space,
but
that
would
be
people.