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Athens City Council September 28, 2020
A
B
Thank
you,
president
nicely
and
again
in
conversation
with
director
moore
earlier
this
morning.
During
my
staff
meeting,
you
know
she
had
indicated
that
she
didn't
have
really
any
firm,
concrete
updates
to
give
city
council,
although
I
did
ask
for
her
to
send
me
at
least
some
some
information
that
I
can
report
out
in
her
stead.
B
B
And
again,
as
I've
mentioned,
the
council
exploring
the
use
of
the
karazhak
money
to
run
fiber
up
to
arts
west,
also
working
with
the
government
channel
to
see
what
equipments
and
technology
would
be
necessary
in
order
to
do
the
streaming
of
virtual
content
out
of
arts
west.
So
those
are
the
updates
that
I
can
give
council
right
now
and
those
who
are
watching
tonight.
Director
moore,
is
still
working
through
the
remainder
remaining
details
to
bring
the
program
specialist
back
on
board
with
arts.
B
That's
correct:
I
mean
she,
those
are
the
the
items
that
she
shared
with
me,
but
again,
there
are
at
this
point,
still
not
a
concrete
date
that
that
you
know
the
the
program.
Specialists
will
come
back
back
on
set
date
or
anything
along
those
lines,
but
as
soon
as
she
works
through
the
details,
she
will
certainly
provide
those.
B
If
you
it's
interesting,
if
you
look
at
the
arts,
parks
and
recreation,
you
know
there
are
two
different
entities
that
are
involved
with
arts
parks
and
rec,
there's,
certainly
the
athens
municipal
arts,
commission
and
then
there's
the
parks
and
recreation
advisory
board.
One
of
the
the
roles
of
the
advisory
board
is
to
be
kept
apprised
of
employment
decisions,
personnel
within
all
of
arts
parks
and
recreation,
and
she
also
wants
to
make
sure
that
as
she's
working
through
this,
she
gets
that
information.
B
D
Thank
you,
president
eisley.
Thank
you
mayor
for
a
brief
update.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
questions
that
we
can
provide
to
director
moore
in
advance
for
her
presentation
to
council,
but
one
thing
I
would
be
interested
in
is:
I
believe
there
have
been
some
classes
that
have
been
reinstituted
or
have
been
offered
and
I'm
just
interested
in
how
the
decision
is
being
made
in
terms
of
allowing
those
classes
to
go
forward
and
and
and
then
the
decisions
about
closing
down
arts
west.
D
B
B
This
would
correct
that
problem
and
make
sure
that
that
reliable
streaming
could
happen
out
of
arts
west,
but
the
our
director
of
information
technology,
I.t
david
dudding,
is
also
working
on
this
as
well
to
to
explore
fiber
installers
to
be
able
to
get
fiber
up
there.
So
they
are
working
with
companies
that
this
is
what
they
do
for
a
living.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
and
I
I
guess
my
only
question
is:
is
there
then
a
an
adjusted
timeline?
Do
we
have
an
idea
when
director
moore
might
be
coming
forward
with
you
know,
I'd
hate
to
see
this
getting
kicked
all
the
way
down
to
january,
and
that's
just
you
know,
and
I
understand
that
we're
in
a
we're
in
a
process
where
we
do
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
in
motion
that
we
can't
necessarily
control.
But
could
there
be
a
date
selected
that
we
we
might
be
hearing
back.
B
A
E
G
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
add
that
I
know
that
director
moore
has
been
working
on
this
and
we
have
had
several
conversations
over
the
last
couple
months
or
more
about
the
finances,
and
I
just
think
that,
as
the
auditor,
it's
my
duty
to
remind
everybody,
but
the
bottom
line
is
the
cost.
When
you're
not
bringing
in
any
money,
you
know
we
can't
afford
to
keep
the
doors,
open
and
pay
people
etc,
etc.
G
G
G
Any,
but
you
know,
none
of
our
operations
are
really
quite
as
usual
usual,
and
so
I
I
just
want
to
say.
I
hope
people
will
be
patient
and
understand
that
when
she
calls
and
asks
me,
you
know,
do
I
have
the
money
to
do
this
most
the
time
I
have
to
tell
her.
No
a
recreation
and
a
community
center
rely
on
income
tax
revenue
which
we
know
is
going
down
and
and
then
apart
partially
and
then
partially
on
fees
for
classes
and
things,
and
it's
just
like
anywhere
else.
G
If
you
have
to
cut
your
class
size
in
half
or
if
you
have
people
afraid
to
sign
up
to
begin
with,
because
of
what's
going
on,
you
know.
I
just
hope
that
everybody
understands
it's
a
lot
more
to
it
than
just
saying
well,
yeah.
We
all
support
it,
bring
everything
back.
It's
just
not
that
easy!
That's
all
I
want
to
say
and,
like
I
said,
the
bottom
line
is
the
money.
A
And
auditor
heck,
one
of
the
questions
I
see
in
the
chat
is
that
when
it
was
going
at
strongest
at
arts,
west
did
itself
support,
and
I
think
our
our
answer
is
is
that
it's
subsidized
in
a
way
like
our
athens
transit
system,
and
I
don't
think
it's
ever
been
a
break
even
revenue
in
revenue.
You
know,
expenses
out
kind
of
venture.
G
Right
well
and
that's
the
same
with
the
community
center,
the
classes
and
the
rentals
don't
pay
the
bills,
and
that
was
the
same
at
our
twist
and
it
does
have
a
percentage
of
income
tax
that
we
use
to
support
that.
But
you
know
that's
finite:
it's
not
an
endless
amount
of
money
coming
in
and
the
revenue
has
gone
down,
and
so
you
have
to
look
at
both
sides
of
it.
You
know
you're
right,
that's
why
we
still
have
to
charge
for
classes
and
rentals
and
anything
else
that
we
have
going
on.
A
And
one
of
the
other
comments
in
the
chat
was
there
a
comprehensive
plan
showing
all
revenue
generating
programs
to
be
able
to
see
what
was
the
most
expensive
kind
of
programming?
So
some
certainly
something
for
arts
parks
and
recreation
advisory,
probably
to
take
a
look
at,
maybe
as
they
discuss
that
with
director
moore
other
questions
from
council
members
or
auditor.
Yes,
another
comment.
G
So
I
just
want
to
answer
a
couple
of
these
chats
that
classes
aren't
based
on
the
classes
are.
Are
that's
not
entirely
the
way
it
works?
So
it's
not
based
on
the
number
of
students,
but
actually
it
is
because
we
pay
someone
to
teach
the
classes
and
it's
not
a
rental.
When
a
class
is
sponsored
by
the
recreation
department,
the
city
is
paying
for
the
nobody's
renting
the
community
center.
G
Now,
if
someone
does
just
ask,
if
they
can
do
certain
things
there,
they
might
be
paying
rent,
but
that's
not
typically,
if
the.
If
our
city
is
offering
classes,
it's
not
a
matter
of
the
rental,
it's
the
matter
of
the
revenue
we
bring
in
and
it's
the
same
at
the
community
center
and
always
has
been.
If
they
don't
get
enough
people
to
sign
up,
then
it's
not
worth
paying
someone
to
be
there
and
at
arts
west
it
often
involves
paying
someone
to
be
there
after
hours.
G
G
Some
of
you
might
already
know
this,
but
personnel
is
like
70
percent
of
of
everyone's
budget,
it's
very
expensive
and
what
somebody
makes
an
hour
or
bi-weekly
or
annually.
However,
you
want
to
look
at
it.
You
need
to
add
about
30
percent
on
to
that,
for
what
it
costs
the
city
to
pay
taxes
and
benefits,
so
there's
just
a
lot
more
to
it
money-wise,
but
I
I
don't
know.
I
know
that
terry
and
the
mayor
working
very
hard
to
bring
something
back.
It
just
won't
be
the
same.
G
G
G
So
you
know
there's
just
a
lot
more
to
it,
and
so
I
would
just
ask
that
everybody
know
that
the
director
moore
is
working
really
hard
to
try
to
figure
out
what
she
can
make
work
that
the
city
can
afford,
and
you
know
that's
about.
All
I
can
add.
I
know
the
mayor
is-
is
trying
to
support
her
in
that.
A
But
I
would
like
to
open
that
up.
If
there
are
comments
or
questions
that
you
that
any
of
the
other
panelists
or
the
excuse
me,
the
attendees
would
want
to
voice
to
us
you.
We
would
like
to
provide
that
opportunity
now,
because
we
know
that
many
of
you
waited
patiently
several
weeks
ago
and
heard
some
of
the
initial
discussion.
A
H
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
It's
it's
really
been
wonderful
for
me
to
see
the
council
support
and
city
support
and
and
support
from
the
administration.
Thank
you
mayor
in
in,
and
the
recognition
of
how
important
the
art
center
is
for
everyone
and
and
kathy.
If
memory
serves,
you
were
there
back
in
2005
in
june,
when
mayor
weil
took
down
a
wall,
so
I
know
you
you've
been
deep
in
it
and
your
daughter
took
some
classes
if
I'm
not
mistaken
about
that
either.
H
So
thank
you
for
that
support,
and
then
so,
with
that
I
do
understand
the
budget
constraints.
So
this
wasn't
an
earlier
question,
but
it
sort
of
becomes
one
now.
Is
it
again
goes
to
the
question
of
why
why
arts
west,
and
also,
I
believe,
on
the
child
care,
which
of
course
is
a
different
issue
and,
and
I
intimately
know
how
tough
it
is
for
arts
organizations
throughout
the
country.
H
H
It
can
probably
be
income
neutral,
but
the
city
needs
to
maintain
the
facility
and
they
need
to
maintain
a
staff
person
and
if
there
isn't
a
staff
person
there,
who
knows
how
to
do
art,
programming
and
understands
curriculum
and
understands
the
community
and
the
radical
collaborations
that
are
going
on
with
all
of
us
right
now.
If
we
push
this
to
january
4th,
the
cold
start
is
going
to
make
it
even
more
difficult
and
even
more
difficult
for
writing
grants
all
the
programming
grants.
A
I
A
A
J
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
see
man
of
my
camera's
working.
I
thought
it
was
raised.
Sorry
yeah!
No!
I
I
appreciate
everybody
just
talking
about
this
and
you
know
I'm
on
the
arts
park
and
rec
advisory
committee
with
with
terry
and
we've
been
discussing
some
of
that
stuff
in
our
meeting
last
thursday.
I
do
wonder,
are
we
gonna
hear
before
the
next
meeting,
because
we
are
meeting,
I
believe,
thursday
october
15th?
J
You
know
so
that's
about
three
weeks
from
now,
but
the
one
statement
I
want
to
share.
I
really
just
want
to
reiterate
we're
going
we're
in
covid
and
we
really
need
to
think
about
art
in
a
different
way.
There's
a
reason.
These
cuts
were
here
and
not
somewhere
else.
I
don't
know
if
it's
it's
a
different,
you
know
if
it's
amac
and
arts
park
and
rec
or
a
different
committee
or
something
or
a
merging
of
the
two
or
something,
but
it
just
seems
like
art
is
just
at
the
very
very
bottom.
J
It
doesn't
have
the
support,
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
time.
You
know.
Emily
princess
spoke
about
grants
and
everything
like
that.
Another
way
to
just
look
at
what
how
we
do
this,
how
we
fund,
I
think,
with
you,
know
the
the
broadband
we're
gonna
have.
If
that
goes
through,
that's
gonna,
be
fantastic.
You
probably
can't
see
my
screen
or,
if
you
can,
I
have
a
poster
behind
me
from
geek
week.
J
That's
a
movie
series
I
did
that
was
actually
born
at
arts
west
and
it
cleared
5k
in
our
first
year.
Those
are
just
different
ideas
that
can,
I
think,
be
made
that
that
space
or
whatever
so
but
it
needs
support
and
support
in
people.
Not
just
you
know
some
money
or
you
know,
a
part-time
person
needs
to
be
ideas
and
people
who
know
the
facility,
so
they
can
bring
those
people
in
so,
and
I
know
this
is
a
challenging
time.
J
F
Yes,
yes,
president
nisly,
thank
you
and
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
speaking
out
of
term,
but
I
was
as
this
conversation
was
progressing.
I
remembered
a
a
I
spoke
with
a
citizen
a
few
weeks
ago
and
they
spoke
about
the
idea
of
having
a
friends
of
group
that
would
be
supporting
the
arts
and
arts
parks
and
rec,
because
when
you
look
at
some
of
these
grants,
well,
you
know
a
non-profit
can
apply
for
them,
but
a
but
a
you
know
a
government
entity
cannot
and
so
having
having.
F
F
I
don't
know
you
know
it's
just
something
that
that
I
found
interesting
and
and
I've
seen
it
a
lot
in
you
know,
in
in
parks,
in
in
recreation,
because
recreation
also,
even
at
the
state
level,
they
try
to
convince
people
to
do
non-profits
that
help
help
our
state
parks.
So
it's
it's
a
viable
platform
and
it
might
be
something
that
we
need
to
look
to.
If
we
don't
have
the
funding
to
to
do
what
we
want
to
do.
A
Thanks
for
the
comments
council
member
consists-
and
it
looks
like
brandon-
responded
that
yes
they're
working
on
the
friends
of
the
arts
parks
and
recreational
council
through
the
advisory
council.
So
that's
good
good
to
hear
that
update.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
I'm
doing
one
more
check
through
our
list.
Chelsa
morahan.
You've
got
your
hand
raised.
Would
you
like
to
speak?
You've
got
up
to
three
minutes.
If
you
would
like
to
join
us.
K
K
So
your
gym
and
your
art
and
your
music
and
things
like
that
and
how
one
of
the
board
members
was
a
little
frustrated
with
the
the
term
specials,
because
that
means
it's
the
first
to
get
cut
and
it
is
traditionally
the
first
thing
to
get
cut.
Are
the
arts
and
the
music
and
the
gym,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
that
really
hit
a
point
with
me,
because
that's
kind
of
what
my
entire
life
has
been
working
for:
non-profit
arts,
as
well
as
for
arts,
west
and
now
within
higher
education.
K
K
So
thank
you
so
much
everybody
who
is
attending
as
well
as
all
of
our
city,
council
persons.
We
appreciate
that
you
are
continuing
this
conversation.
I
really
hope
that
we
are
able
to
come
up
with
a
solution
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
we
we
do
have
a
time
crunch
here.
I
appreciate
everything.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
good
night.
A
L
Nicely,
yes,
might
I
make
a
comment
sure
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
I
agree
with
one
thing
that
chelsea
morihan
just
mentioned.
She
made
an
excellent
point:
I'm
the
city
council,
member
that
serves
on
the
arts,
parks
and
rec
advisory
board,
and
I
would
be
very
happy
to
talk
with
director
more
about
the
possibility
of
letting
people
who
really
support
arts
west
collaborate
with
us
on
the
advisory
board
so
that
we
could
write
grants
or
or
just
talk
about
this
possibility.
L
A
A
E
E
The
three
plots
have
road
frontage
on
on
harold,
but
there's
going
to
be
two
city
right-of-ways
to
help
with
other
traffic
through
the
the
little
industrial
park,
and
that
will
be
deeded
to
the
city
as
as
city
right-of-ways
everybody's
signed
off
on
it.
The
health
department
has
no
problems
because
it
has
water
and
sewer.
So
it's
it's
pretty
straightforward.
C
E
E
I
have
not
been
told
of
any
plans
per
se,
so
I
would
expect
that
most
people
who
are
doing
this
sort
of
development
would
want
to
go
through
this
process
before
going
through
a
city
permitting
process,
because
weapons,
if
they
didn't
get
to
there,
was
something
wrong
with
being
able
to
split
it
sort
of
thing
too.
So
this
is
kind
of
the
first
process.
E
I
B
E
E
Other
questions
great
second
on
our
agenda
is
the
as,
as
you
know,
we've
been
going
through
this
process
of
annexing
land
down
on
lurik
road
across
from
the
university
states
for
to
woda
with
development
for
affordable
housing,
multi-home
multi
apartment
development.
There
run
through
the
process,
they
have
gone
and
woda
and
their
legal
team
have
gone
before
the
trustees,
the
township
trustees
and
the
count
and
the
county
commissioners
county
commissioners
are
going
to
release
the
land.
E
Woda
has
made
all
the
arrangements
with
the
different
types
of
services
that
they
will
be
getting
and
not
getting.
So.
The
last
sort
of
thing
that
needs
to
happen
is
because
it's
gonna
become
our
land.
We
need
to
zone
it,
and
so,
when
it
comes
into
the
city,
it
will
be
zoned
for
multi-family
housing.
So
that's
an
r3
zoning
designation.
E
C
E
B
That
is
that's
an
outstanding
question.
Member
costas.
I
will
check
in
with
the
acting
director
at
epw
to
find
out
if
that
is
the
case,
that
we
would
be
in
receivership
of
part
of
lauric
road.
I
I
don't
have
an
answer
to
you
on
that.
I
suspect
not
that
it
is
just
an
adjoining
property
up
to
lyric
road,
but
I
will
find
out
that's
a
that's
a
interesting
question.
E
E
They
plan
to
use
it
as
part
of
their
site,
so
it
will
be
a
used
nice,
nice
site,
not
swimming,
I'm
not
talking
about
swimming,
so
kind
of
a
nice
water
feature
so
I've
what
I've
done
other
work
with
woda
because
they
have
done
other
projects
in
the
area
and
they
do
really
do
a
good
job
in
this
whole
process
and
something
that's
in
line
with
our
comprehensive
plan
and
our
affordable
housing
plan.
So
other
questions
so
well.
That's
all.
I
have
for
my
agenda.
D
D
The
contract
that
was
signed
did
indicate
that
that
was
the
price
for
the
individual
truck
bed
liner.
So
the
second
truck
was
already
being
fitted
and
they
have
canceled
the
plans
to
have
the
third
bed
installed,
but
the
this
is
a
prior
year
bill
to
pay
for
that
second
truck.
That
was
already
in
the
process
of
of
being
fitted
and
has
been
fitted.
So
this
is
an
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars
that
epw
is
asking
council
to
to
pay
for
as
a
prior
year
bill.
D
F
President
nicely
thank
you,
it's
been
a
while,
so
I
might
be
a
little
rusty,
but
we
have
two
bullet
points
to
discuss
tonight
for
transportation
committee,
the
first
one
temporary
sidewalk
extensions.
So
council
will
remember
right
before
recess
that
we
that
we
voted
in
the
ability
for
business
owners
to
to
apply
for
a
permit
and
purchase
parking
meter
space
time
to
allow
their
businesses
to
do
things
more
outside,
and
so
that
pilot
program
expires
on
the
30th
of
september.
So
this
this
kind
of
came
up
on
us
rather
quickly.
F
M
F
M
M
We
kind
of
got
a
late
start
on
it,
but
it
was
a
result
of
the
uptown
business
association,
the
mayor
asking
us
to
think
outside
the
box
and
considering
what
other
cities
have
been
doing
and
how
we
can
make
something
on
the
court
street
area,
both
usable
for
businesses
to
create
additional
space
outside
of
their
businesses,
specifically
eateries,
but
also
looking
at
what
is
something
sustainable
in
the
long
term.
What
can
we
do
beyond
some
of
the
things
that
were
thrown
out
early
in
the
summer
as
far
as
shutting
down
the
streets?
M
M
M
Many
of
the
businesses
that
I
discussed
this
with,
and
we
measured
things
and
looked
at
it
really
closely
one
in
particular,
they
decided
to
close
their
doors
soon
after
taking
out
an
application
temporarily,
even
though
they're
very
enthusiastic
about
it
another
business.
Looking
at
how
we
have
the
language
structured,
we
may
need
to
before
we
adopt
it
permanently
or
if
council
decides
to
go
that
route,
we
may
want
to
tweak
some
of
the
language
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
permissible.
M
We
discovered
that
the
slopes
of
athens
are
a
little
challenging
and
we
kind
of
knew
that
at
the
outset,
but
the
language
that
we
used
was
a
little
prohibitive
for
one
business
in
particular
that
their
frontage
is
on
a
much
steeper
slope.
We
have
to
maintain
accessibility
so
throwing
some
cones
out
and
some
barriers
and
calling
that
good.
Just
is
not
good
enough
for
athens
and
we
want
to
make
it
both
usable
but
also
visually.
M
Appealing
again,
this
is
a
sustainable
idea,
sustainable
program
that
we
want
to
to
make
it
so
I'm
gonna,
give
jessica
thomas,
is
here
this
evening,
maybe
josh
as
well,
but
I
see
her
her
picture.
So
I'm
gonna
go
that
it's
jessica,
this
time
to
discuss
how
the
the
program's
worked
for
her
business
the
impact.
I
hope
that
all
of
you
have
had
a
chance
to
drive
by
or
at
least
stop
and
sit
in
the
space.
It
is
amazing,
so
jessica,
if
you
could
just
fill
us
in.
N
Thanks
andrew
yeah,
I'm
here
josh,
is
kind
of
lurking
around
back
here,
so
yeah
it
went
really
well.
First,
I
mean
we
really
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
you
did,
because
you
getting
everything
filled
out
and
turned
around
so
quickly
made
it
really
great.
We've
had
a
really
good
response.
N
N
We
really
thought
going
in
at
the
end
of
august
that
we
would
be
taking
it
in
and
then
you
know.
Obviously
things
have
continued
a
lot.
A
lot
more
outdoor
dining
is
needed.
The
weather's
been
pretty
decent
for
ohio
right
now.
So
if
we
can
extend
that
longer
and
see
how
long
it
can
go,
that
would
be
helpful
until
until
it's
cold,
you
know
if
it
when
it
gets
cold
people
don't
want
to
sit
outside,
then
obviously
it
won't
have
a
use.
I
think
some
people
been
hanging
out
in
the
evenings.
N
After
we
close
and
later
in
the
night,
we
haven't
had
any
issues
with
any
major
major
vandalism
or
anything.
So
that
was
nice.
We
had
a
couple
small
things:
our
cute
little
bike
ornament
was
broken,
but
nothing
major.
So
that
was
really
nice
to
see
extending
it
through
a
little
longer.
Does
give
us
a
little
more
time
with
slightly
increased
students
to
see
you
know
how
it
goes
in
the
late
evening?
Hours
which
is
kind
of
our
was
our
concern
early
on,
but
yeah
I
mean
it's,
I'm
really
glad
the
city
did
it.
N
D
D
I've
had
lunch
there
and
it
works
perfectly.
One
of
my
big
concerns
with
the
parklets,
were
you
know
how
close
they
would
be
to
traffic
and
how
you
dealt
with
that
separation
between
the
traffic
and
it
feels
you
know.
I
didn't
even
notice
the
traffic
when
I
was
eating
lunch
there.
One
of
my
questions
is
obviously
andrew,
worked
very
hard
on
this,
as
did
jessica
and
josh.
D
If
there's
some
way
that
we
can,
you
know
video,
I
don't
know
you
know
remember
how
well
that
they,
that
they
did
this
installation
and
recommend
I'm
sure
other
business
owners
in
town
have
seen
it
and
have
realized
how
nice
it
is,
and
you
know
really
what
it
adds
to
the
downtown.
Quite
frankly,
I'd
love
to
see
more
of
these
just
like
that,
one
so
that
I
just
want
to
say
great
job.
M
So
to
answer
your
your
question:
councilmember
crowl,
we
give
a
packet
to
business
owners
that
includes
design
standards.
A
lot
of
what
we
used
were
other
larger
cities,
and
we
had
photos
of
examples
from
philadelphia
from
seattle,
vancouver,
I
believe
so
having
the
brennans
included
in
that
packet.
N
Yeah
that
that
would
be
great,
I
think,
the
more
we
have
the
more
you
know
this
year
is
what
it
is.
But-
and
you
know
next
summer
you
know
we'll
still
be
kind
of
unknown,
but
in
the
future
years,
the
more
of
them
we
have
it's
it's
another
way
to
attract
people
in
you
know
the
bailey's
grows,
hocking
hills
visitors
are
coming
down
and
if
we
can
build
that
habit
now
and
in
the
spring
and
early
next
summer
and
have
more
of
those
around,
I
think
really
gets
a
lot
of
people.
N
The
visitors
bureau's
been
actively
trying
to
do
that,
so
this
is
definitely
a
way
that
could
get
people
down
here,
more
yeah.
We
wondered
about
the
traffic,
I
know
when
sam
was
saying
like
you,
don't
you
think
about
it
and
it
moves
pretty
quick
and
when
you
sit
out
there,
you
really
don't
notice
it
it's
a.
N
It
is
a
very
vacationy
feel
we've
enjoyed
looking
at
it.
We
haven't
sat
there
very
often
ourselves,
but
we
really
enjoyed
looking
at
it
a
lot
but
yeah,
video
or
pictures.
I
would
encourage
everyone,
you
know
anyone
would
talk
to.
I'm
like
you
really
should
put
one
out,
because
it's
it's
really
helpful
and
with
all
the
cases
going
up
right
now,
having
extra
seat
outs
extra
seats
outside
has
been
really
helpful.
L
I
I
agree
with
everything
that
jessica,
thomas
just
said.
I
think
during
this
coveted
pandemic,
providing
more
outdoor
seating
is
one
of
the
safest
things
that
we
can
do
to
both
support
our
locally
owned
restaurants
and
to
try
to
keep
people
safer
and
prevent
them
from
getting
the
virus.
So
I
really
applaud
brennan's
for
being
the
ones
to
move
on
this.
I
really
like
what
you
put
up.
I've
I've
just
kind
of
done
little
little
very
non-scientific,
surveys
of
people
sitting
there,
I've
chatted
with
a
few
of
them.
They
all
love
it.
L
They
said
traffic
isn't
a
problem,
they
really
like
it,
and
I
did
talk
to
some
people
who
had
come
down
from
hawking
hills.
And
I
agree
that
if
we
could
have
more
of
those
parklets
and
have
more
people
provide
more
people
a
chance
to
eat
outside
on
court
street
and
the
surrounding
streets,
that
that
could
help
athens
become
more
of
a
destination
to
come
and
have
dinner
or
have
lunch.
And-
and
you
know,
because
hey
let's
go
eat
outside
they're
at
court
street
in
athens
or
you
know
around
court
street.
L
L
N
N
F
B
So
I
I
to
have
spoken
to
josh,
thomas
and
jessica.
To
some
extent,
I
would
concur
with
jessica's
plan
you
know
to
where,
if
the
weather
holds
through
october,
you
know-
and
I
would
recommend
the
council
as
we're
working
on
this
ordinance
to
not
have
it
be
october,
31st
that
it
it
it
terminates,
but
likely
you
know,
have
it
extend
into
say
november
15th,
so
that
so
that
the
thomases
have
time
to
dismantle
it
and
to
take
it
apart.
So
they're
not
feeling
rushed
to
get
it
taken
down
either.
B
B
In
turn,
I've
heard
nothing
but
favorable
comments
on
on
that
particular
parklet.
So
again,
I
I
commend
the
thomases
on
what
they
have
done.
I
think
they
have
kind
of
set
set
the
standard
as
this
moves
forward,
but
I
want
council
to
consider
the
success
of
the
pilot
and
consider
you
know
moving
it
into
something
that
is
permanent,
as
opposed
to
waiting
until
later
on,
to
make
that
act
at
a
different
point
in
time.
B
B
Well,
we
we
can
certainly
council
memorizer.
We
can
certainly
work
through
the
timeline
details
for
for
a
permanent
program
that
allows
for
this
and
again
we
can.
We
can
start
working
on
that
right
now
or
we
can
just
deem
this
as
being
well.
Council
can
choose
to
decide
whether
or
not
you
you
feel
this
was
a
successful
project
and
warrants
you
know,
making
it
turning
it
into
a
permanent
program
here
in
the
city
of
athens,.
O
O
B
C
C
My
question
was
going
to
be
if
there
was
if
we
were
still
interested
in
just
extending
the
pilot,
but
I
guess
this
question
can
apply
too
if
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
explore
making
it
permanent.
If
there
was
time
between
now
and
and
next
session
to
make
those
changes.
That
andrew
mentioned
that
were
problematic,
given
the
terrain
and
if
there
was
time
to
do
that
before
either
extension
of
the
pilot
or
the
review
of
the
permanent.
M
It's
it's
really
pretty
minor
in
nature,
and
we
did
have
some
businesses
that
were
on
a
wait
and
see
approach.
They
wanted
to
see
how
it
worked
with
brennan's
and
kind
of
use
them
as
the
guinea
pig
and
not
have
to
put
any
skin
into
it.
I
get
that
we
have
several
more
that,
at
least
from
the
feedback
that
I've
received
so
far
are
have
full
intention
of
participating.
Next
year,
they've
been
working
on
some
plans,
and
it's
not
just
for
eateries.
M
That
is
one
component.
It's
a
major
component,
but
I
spoke
to
a
business
owner
uptown
that
does
not
run
an
eatery
and
he's
looking
at
it
as
a
way
to
have
outdoor
sales
space
and
turn
that
over
into
park
space
and
when
his
business
isn't
open.
So
it's
supposed
to
be
versatile.
The
the
purpose
is
for
it
to
be
mobile
to
what
the
businesses
need.
C
That's
okay
and
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
the
main
concern
that
was
raised
when
this
was
introduced
was
what
this
will
do
with
parking
and,
as
was
presented
early
on
when
we
were
first
talking
about
this.
Every
spot.
That's
taken
by
parklet
is
then
replaced
by
a
spot
somewhere
else,
so
we
don't
lose
any
parking
out
of
this
project,
we're
just
enhancing
the
outdoor
space
and
using
it
in
a
different
way.
So
that's
another
reason
to
look
forward
to
something
like
this
being
more
permanent.
I
Thank
you,
member
contest,
you're,
doing
a
great
job,
keeping
track
of
members
raising
hands,
and
thank
you,
jessica
and
andrew
for
for
being
here.
I
I
have
been
a
big
supporter
of
parklets
and
of
this
idea.
I
think
the
brennan's
parklet
is
is
beautiful
and
I
I
would
really
be
thrilled
to
see
more
of
them.
The
thing
that
I
wonder
as
we
as
council
considers
making
this
a
permanent
option.
I
A
permitted
opportunity
is
whether
we
would
want
to
impose
specific
opening
and
closing
dates
based
on
season,
because
the
seasons
can
be,
and
the
temperatures
can
really
fluctuate
a
lot
in
ohio.
We
could
have
some
nice
days
during
the
times
of
years
that
that
would
traditionally
be
considered
unseasonable
or
not
outdoor
seating,
weather
and
I've
also
been
in
places
where
they
have
outdoor
seating
with
outdoor
heaters.
I
And
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
we
would
want
to
consider
the
opportunity
so
that
maybe,
when
some
someday,
when
we
get
back
to
having
horse-drawn
wagon,
rides
uptown
for
the
holidays,
if
they're
outdoor
parklets
that
people
wanted
to
sit
in
while
they
sip
hot
cocoa,
that
you
know
sit
outside
and
listen
to
the
christmas
carols.
So
I
don't.
I
I
don't
view
outdoor
seating
as
an
only
warm
weather
opportunity,
and
so
I
think
I
I
would
just
be
interested
in
hearing
other's
thoughts
on
that,
and
I
I
know
brennan's
has
some
delicious
hot
beverages
that
can
can
warm
you
up
when
it's
chilly
outside
so
yeah.
I
I
just
wanted
to
throw
out
there
that
that
we
might
not
need
to
specify
specific
months
when
well
that
it's
only
available
or
only
an
option
during
specific
months.
L
I
I
like
member
grace's
suggestion
that
she
just
made,
I
think,
with
climate
change.
Our
climate
has
just
gone,
has
gotten
much
less
predictable
right.
We
can
have
days
in
the
50s
and
60s
in
december
or
january
or
february,
maybe
not
for
the
whole
month,
but
maybe
several
days
in
a
row
that
might
be
enough.
L
I
mean
it
would
be
up
to
the
business
owners,
but
they
might
be
willing
to
haul
out
the
parklit
again
and
set
it
up,
and
people
might
just
flock
to
those
parklets
on
those
rare
warm
days
that
pop
up
now
and
again
in
the
winter
so
yeah.
I
too
think
that
largely
because
of
climate
change
that
maybe
we
should
be
a
little
more
flexible
about
the
dates,
but
I
was
also
wondering-
and-
and
if
you
don't
like
this
idea-
that's
completely
fine-
the
the
thomases
have
done
an
exceptional
job
with
their
parklet
right.
L
I
don't
think
we
could
have
asked
a
business
to
provide
a
better
initial
example
of
how
this
could
work
well,
but
we've
got
a
pretty
small
amount
of
data
right.
We've
got
one
business
that
has
done
it.
I
wonder
if,
if
there,
if
it
could
be
worth
considering
extending
the
pilot
for
one
more
year,
andrew
said
that
there
are,
I
believe
you
said
there
were
five
or
six
other
businesses
who
were
considering
it.
L
I
wonder
if
telling
them
that
it
would
definitely
happen
in
2021
would
be
enough
to
encourage
them
to
make
the
investment
to
create
the
parklets
or,
if
they
would
need
to
know
it
would
be
permanent,
because
it's
possible
that
not
everybody
would
do
it
as
well
as
the
thomas's
right,
and
so
I
I
just
wonder
if
we
might
want
to
get
a
little
more
data
before
declaring
that
it
should
be
a
permanent
fixture,
though
I
will
say
I
am
all
for
it
becoming
a
permanent
fixture.
Don't
get
me
wrong!
L
F
F
You
know,
I
know
that
not
you
know
not.
All
the
parklets
would
interfere
with
every
street
closure,
but
I
would
assume
that
there
are.
There
are
some
instances
where
parklet
wouldn't
work
with
what
was
already
being
proposed.
You
know
in
those
in
those
those
block
closures,
so
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
anything
there.
The
other
thing
that
I
was
wondering
too,
is
just
since
we
haven't
seen
the
tear
down,
or
we
haven't
seen
a
full
season
yet
of
of
what
how
these,
how
these
work?
F
M
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
thomases
since
jessica
is
here,
but
they
had
told
me
that
the
time
it
takes
for
them
to
remove
their
structure
is
very,
very
short.
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
only
a
couple
of
hours.
The
most
well
part
is
the
actual
physical
loading
it
onto
a
trailer
more
so
than
the
deconstruction
piece,
and
that
was
in
part
thinking
about
some
of
our
major
events
that
happen.
M
When
we
were
first
approaching
this
and
we
took
a
hard
look
at
what
our
parking
stock
looked
like,
we
know
the
parking
garage
is
rarely
if
ever
completely
full.
We
looked
at
our
college
street
lot,
but
that
isn't
to
say
that
a
business
doesn't
still
want
parking
nearby.
We
want
to
see
what
it
looks
like
when
we
have
a
full
load
of
students
and
we've
discussed
that
before
so
having
a
starting
date.
M
So
there's
a
lot
of
positive
and
again,
the
adjustments
that
we
would
need
to
to
make
in
the
language
is
very,
very
minor.
We're
talking
a
few
pin
strokes
really
if
the
transportation
committee
wants
to
to
make
adjustments,
I'd
encourage
them
to
to
just
send
me
a
message
directly
with
what
you'd
want
to
propose
and
and
we
can
vet
it,
and
I'm
sure
the
mayor
will
task
me
over
over
to
this
and
away
from
some
other
things
temporarily.
So
we
can
make
this
successful
so.
F
Okay,
and-
and
I
would
also
want
to
remind
I'm-
not
the
the
timeline
that
we're
that
we're
looking
at,
because
the
program
expires
in
two
days.
We
would
be
looking
at
an
extension
on
the
on
the
first
monday
of
the
month,
and
we
would
also
be
asking
for
a
suspension
at
that
time,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
can.
We
can
continue
the
pilot
program.
You
know
in
that
in
that
time
frame.
F
F
B
That
is
not
private
property
to
where
we
have
vending
that
goes
on,
and
they
were
asking,
as
I
said,
to
see
if
the
rates
temporarily
under
covered
19
to
give
them
some
relief
and
given
the
fact
that
ohio
university
is
not
back
to
full
student
enrollment
on
campus,
that
it
would
certainly
offset
the
decrease
in
customers
that
they
would
see
at
their
vending
trucks
their
food
trucks.
I'm
not
opposed
to
this.
I
think
that
this
personally,
I
believe
it.
D
D
B
There
is
not,
there
is
no
permitting
process.
The
the
guidance,
as
I
recall,
councilmember
crowl,
is
that
table
and
chairs
can
be
five
feet
out
from
the
the
facade
of
your
building.
I'll
get
the
actual
footage
for
you,
but
there
are
as
you're
aware
several
businesses
in
the
uptown
area
that
already
have
cafe
tables
and
chairs
out
in
front.
That
did
not
require
permitting
the
one
caveat
with
that.
Again:
it's
not
a
permit
issue.
B
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
information.
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
parklets,
and
it
is
great
that
some
of
our
businesses
have
outdoor
patios
and
things
that
are
in
the
back
that
nobody
sees
and
it's
wonderful
when
you
find
out
that
they're
there
and
you
can
go
sit
outside
and
but
they
don't
bring
in
like
the
parkland
in
front
of
brennan's.
It's
not
this
kind
of
welcoming.
Oh
look
what's
happening
out
on
the
street.
You
know
so
more
parklets
and
more
tables
on
our
sidewalks.
B
E
Great
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
you
cannot
drink
alcohol
on
cities,
so
someone
like
some
of
the
ones
who
would
really
like
to
do
this
would
probably
be
the
bars
but
they're
the
ones
who
you
know
a
lot
of
them
have
space
in
the
back,
and
that
is
something
that
we
can't
really
change.
E
I
Thank
you,
member
katis,
I'm
wondering
what
time
frame
is
being
considered.
Our
is
the
request
for
relief
in
in
the
current
calendar
year,
so
currently
active
permits
or
moving
forward
into
next
year
is
this:
are
we
talking
about
a
change
to
code
to
to
permanently
alter
the
cost
of
the
permits
or
just
a
provide
relief
in
for,
like
the
dura
the
remainder
of
this
year?.
B
B
O
C
B
Councilman
riser,
I
am
not
sure
I
can
certainly
get
that
number
for
you
and
and
email
each
of
you
or,
if
you're
interested.
There
are
some
that
are
out
there
and
they're
being
held,
even
though
they
may
not
be
vending.
Currently
that's
kind
of
typical,
especially
when
we
get
into
the
colder
months
of
the
year
into
the
winter
season
that
they
will
carry
that
permit
over
into
the
following
spring.
So,
but
I
can
get
that
total
number
to
you.
O
B
D
There's
nobody
who
is
currently
vending
on
east
union
street
there.
I
pointed
it
out
to
director
riggs,
because
the
signage
doesn't
indicate
that
currently
we
don't
have
a
parking
problem
uptown.
So
I
don't
think
it's
been
an
issue,
but
he
was
gonna,
look
into
the
signage
and
why
they
are
all
facing
the
street.
Even
though
there
are
no
current
vendors
who
have
purchased
licenses.
That's
a
good
question.