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Athens City Council September 15, 2020
B
Thank
you.
First
one
we
have
a
a
somewhat
long
agenda,
but
we
can
it's
very
interesting
and
it's
the
end
of
a
lot
of
projects
that
have
been
bubbling
and
stuff.
So
the
first
one
is
the
university
estates
tiff
that
would
that
has
been
recommended
from
the
administration
in
the
area
of
the
university
of
states
for
a
new
development.
B
A
tif
attacks
incremental
financing
is
something
that
we
use
out
on
east
state
street
and
we
have
our
planner
planner
paul
logue
here
to
also
describe
some
of
it.
I
think
that
this
has
been
working
for
a
while
and
then
cove.
It
happened,
and
so
it's
now
coming
back
up
this
particular
program
for
these
units.
These
housing
units
up
in
university
states
also
has
been
recommended
by
the
affordable
housing
commission
in
their
their
strategy
planning
document
that
the
council
has
adopted.
C
Sure,
thank
you.
Council
representative
fall
good
evening.
Council
paul
load
planner
for
the
city
of
athens.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
be
present
this
evening,
not
sure
how
long
we
want
to
spend
on
this.
So
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
to
what
council
representative
falls
said
the
she's
correct
that
back
in
2019
the
affordable
housing
commission
gave
some
recommendations
to
city
council
about
strategies
that
the
affordable,
housing
commission
thought
would
be
effective
means
of
trying
to
create
affordable
housing
within
our
community.
C
There's
a
few
things
that
the
affordable
housing
commission
noted
about
the
challenges
of
of
having
affordable
housing
in
our
city,
two
of
the
big
ones,
was
had
to
do
with
the
city's
zoning
code
and
our
subdivision
regulations,
which
are
essentially
designed
to
build
detached
single-family
residential
homes
on
what
are
on
larger
lots.
C
And
so
you
know
the
land,
the
home.
All
of
those
things
cost
a
lot
of
money
in
order,
so
affordability
is
lost
also,
when
we're
building
new
subdivisions
in
athens,
there's
infrastructure
that
the
developer
is
required
to
cover
the
cost
for
so
that
includes
streets,
curb
gutter,
sewer,
sidewalks.
All
of
that
infrastructure
is
expected
to
be
borne
by
the
developer,
which,
of
course,
they
pass
that
they
pass
those
costs
on
to
the
home
home
potential
home
buyers.
C
So
when
we're
requiring
larger
lots
when
we're
requiring
single-family
detached
things
like
that,
basically,
you
have
to
build
more
infrastructure
because
of
the
length
of
your
roads,
the
the
length
of
the
the
frontage
of
a
single-family
residential
lot,
and
so
all
those
costs
are
being
are
typically
carried
upon
to
the
buyer.
C
What
the
affordable
housing
commission
was
recommending
is
there's
a
strategy
under
ohio,
revised
code
for
what's
called
a
residential
tiff
tax
increment
financing,
in
which
a
portion
of
the
the
increased
value
and
property
tax
is
taken
and
put
into
the
tif
district
to
cover
the
cost
of
that
infrastructure.
So
it
covers
so
that
that
that
cost
is
not
carried
upon
to
a
homeowner.
So
it
covers
the
cost
for
streets,
curb
gutter,
sidewalks,
etc.
C
What
you've
got
before
you
is
a
copy
of
the
the
the
agreement
that's
been
drafted.
The
city
worked
closely
with
representatives
from
bricker
and
eckler
law
firm
in
columbus,
as
well
as
with
our
law
director
and
with
cornerstone
properties,
which
is
a
housing
development,
local
housing
developer.
Who
was
looking
to
do
some
a
project
in
university
estates?
C
This
is,
what's
called
a
if
I'm
not
mistaken.
I've
got
several
different
files
up
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
what's
called
a
it's
a
75
exemption
for
a
period
of
10
years,
which
means
that
for
any
increased
value
in
real
estate,
75
percent
of
the
the
taxes
that
would
typically
be
paid
to
the
school
district
to
the
to
athens,
county,
etc.
That
that
increased
collection
would
be
reinvested
back
into
the
tif
to
cover
the
financing
charges
for
all
that
infrastructure.
C
At
the
end
of
the
10
years,
the
tif
is
dissolved
and
the
the
the
county,
the
tax
collectors
are
all
the
monies
are
distributed
as
they
normally
would
from
that
point
forward,
what's
important
to
note
that
it's
only
on
increased
property
value,
so
if
you're
building,
you
know
if
you've
got
a
single
family
residential
lot,
that
right
now
is
priced
at
is
valued
at
35
or
50.
000
that
first
fifty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
value
depend
as
assessed
by
the
county
auditor.
C
All
of
that
money
would
continue
to
be
to
be
going
towards
standard
tax
up
or
break
down,
as
they
would
be
today.
It's
only
on
that
increased
value.
So
if
you
build
a
home
on
it
and
the
property
is
now
is
sold
to
somebody
for
a
value
of
150
000,
then
that
additional
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
property
tax
assessment
would
then
be
transferred
into
the
tif
75
of
it.
Excuse
me
before
I
go
any
further.
Is
there
any?
Can
I
answer
any
questions
from
members
of
the
planning
and
development
committee.
B
And
I
want
to
especially
talk,
have
sarah
because
she's
been
working
on
this
too
so
for
grace,
if
you
have
anything
to
say
about
it,.
D
So
I
I
just
want
to
say
that,
yes,
after
lots
and
lots
of
research
and
discussion
through
the
affordable
housing
commission,
this
is
is
definitely
one
of
the
best
tools
available
to
us
to
increase
the
the
number
and
availability
of
affordable
housing
units
in
our
area
and
that
there's
there's
no
loss
to
any
entity
that
would
have
been
receiving
some
of
those
property
tax
dollars
and
that
that's
important
to
keep
in
mind.
D
It's
like
whatever
was
being
collected
previously
like
on
on
the
empty
lots
or
whatever
that
is
still
collected
and
distributed
in
the
same
way,
and
so
any
entity
that
was
receiving
that
property
tax
money
continues
to
receive,
and
then,
in
the
case
of
a
75
percent,
they'll
they'll
receive
more
because
they'll
receive
each
entity
will
receive
their
share
of
the
other
25
percent.
Is
that
correct,
paul
yeah?
So
and
then,
once
once
the
tif
ends,
there
will
be
a
significant
increase
in
to,
for
instance,
our
school
districts.
D
Whereas
if,
if
these
improvements
the
buildings,
the
housing
was
never
put
on
the
property,
there
would
not
be
an
increase
in
in
the
tax
assessment
and
in
collections.
So
it's
it's
not
a
loss
to
any
entity
and
and
will
certainly
be
a
benefit
in
the
long
run.
So
yeah.
B
And
one
of
the
things
that
should
be
pointed
out
is
that
the
units
will
be
universal
design,
which
is
good,
because
that
helps
with
senior
affordability
with
seniors-
and
you
know,
they're
they're,
smaller,
so
they're
not
meant
for
five
different
college
people
living
together,
so
they're
definitely
a
segment
that
we
need
so
right
right.
Any
other
questions,
mr
reisner.
C
It's
roughly
50
jeff,
yeah,
okay,
we're
treating
this
as
a
as
a
trial
we've,
because
we've
never
done
this
before
so
the
with
the
affordable
housing
commission
was
kind
of
looking
at
in.
In
my
opinion,
we
know
that
we've
done
tips
for
economic
development
for
east
state
street.
That's
how
east
state
street
was
widened
from
three
to
five
lanes.
That's
how
the
infrastructure
was
built
out
there
to
accommodate
development,
but
we've
never
tried
this
for
housing
in
the
pa
in
athens.
C
What
we
know
again,
we
from
the
affordable
housing
commission's
position,
we're
not
providing
this
type
of
housing.
That's
needed!
It's
a
it's
a
barrier
to
economic
development.
We
can't-
and
so
we've
had
some
problems
with.
How
do
we
make
affordable
housing?
C
F
Thanks
member
fault
appreciate
everyone's
work
on
this,
and
it
sounds
like
a
really
great
creative
way
to
try
to
address
some
of
our
problems
and
challenges
that
we've
had
do.
We
have
a
better
map
to
to
show
what
it,
what
parcels
it's
it's
capturing,
the
the
maps
in
the
documentation
was
a
little
hard
for
me
to
figure
out
where
exactly
where
it
was.
C
I
think
I
can
get
you
one
if,
if
I
don't
have
one
available
immediately,
though,
if
that's
okay
but
I'm
happy
to
share
one
with
deb
walker
and
she
can
send
it
out.
G
H
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
believe
it
was
at
a
ohio
municipal
league
meeting
back
in
2016,
which
is
when
I
first
learned
about
these
non-traditional
tips
and
what
can
be
used
with
them.
As
paul
had
indicated.
You
know
that
we
have
a
traditional
tiff,
which
is
east,
8th
street,
and
I
was
very
keen
on
wanting
to
have
something
like
this
use,
something
like
this
in
the
city
of
athens.
I
think
this
pilot
is
a
smart
one
to
work
forward
to
see
how
we
can
really
remove
that
barrier.
H
That's
going
to
get
in
front
of
a
developer
to
where
they're
not
going
to
want
to
it,
doesn't
pencil
out
to
build
50
units
and
have
to
build
the
streets
and
all
the
utilities.
It's
just
in
this
day
and
age,
and
with
some
of
the
current
lot
sizes.
H
In
areas
that
are
ready
for
development,
it,
it
became
a
significant
barrier
and
so
with
having
something
like
this
to
where
the
money
that
is
captured
under
that
75
percent
capture
helps
the
developer
to
offset
defray
those
costs.
And
actually
you
know,
as
long
as
it's
being
built
to
our
specifications
for
the
roadway
itself
and
sewer
and
water
and
storm.
H
We
believe
that
this
is
a
good
tool
moving
forward
and
and
if
successful,
this
is
something
we
can
certainly
be
using
elsewhere
in
the
city
where
we
know
there's
developable
land,
but
again
it
just.
The
challenges
that
get
in
the
way
of
a
developer
are
the
overall
cost
of
a
project.
If
they
had
to
do
if
they
had
to
build
out
everything
and
try
and
make
it
work.
B
Well,
I
think
that
being
a
model
is
a
really
important
things
and
we
are
keen
on
being
models
in
athens.
We
can
also.
It
would
also
be
something
that
could
be
used
for
redevelopment
or
read.
You
know
re-densification
and
that's
something
that
this
particular
project
is
that
it's
making
the
most
use
of
that
property
that
it's
going
to
be
on
because
they're
townhomes
and
that
they're
they're,
you
know
relatively
small
those
and
that's
another
reason
why
it
can
be
something
that
is
for
the
affordable
housing
part
of
it
too.
So
any
other.
J
Path
perhaps
this
was
mentioned
before,
but
what
is
the
square
footage
of
these
apartments.
B
Oh,
I
don't
remember
they're
like
two-bedroom
and
then
lots
of
bathrooms
and
three-bedroom
and
lots
of
bathrooms
is
that.
J
B
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah
tiny
bathrooms,
so
any
other
questions,
okay,
so
I'll
be
bringing
this
monday.
Thank
you.
Next,
on
our
on
our
agenda,
is
the
the
having
siemens
become
a
historic
building?
B
I'm
I
one
thing
that
I
really
like
about
the
two
or
the
three
things
that
we
are
four
things
we're
covering
tonight
is
that
they've
all
bubbled
up
out
of
either
people
citizens
who
brought
ideas
forward
or
they
came
from
the
commissions
that
we've
created
in
the
city,
to
bring
forward
ideas
and
that's
why
it
makes
it
so
exciting.
B
So
we
had
the
housing
from
the
affordable
housing
people,
and
now
this
from
the
historic
commission
who've
been
working
super
hard
on
the
siemens
project
and
another
project
that
we'll
talk
about
in
a
minute.
Everybody
knows
and
loves
siemens,
so
this
particular
historic
designation
will
be
able
to
qualify
that
area
for
drd
and
we
have
done
several
downtown
redevelopment.
B
That
was
a
one
and
I
think
the
best
one
that
people
know
right
now
is
is
stu
mac
and
their
incredibly
beautiful
restoration
of
that
of
that
building.
So
this
is
really
exciting,
because
siemens
is
an
awesome
local
place
forever,
but
it
has
some
really
classic
architectural
things,
but
also
they
have
like
nicely
neon.
We
don't
have
much
neon
in
the
city,
so
we
have
somebody
from
the
historic
commission
here,
john
ballinger,
would
you
like
to
say
anything
please
thank
you.
C
K
Yep,
yes,
we've
just
like
the
stumac
building
and
we
reviewed,
and
we
try
to
review
these
structures
that
are
actually
not
within
the
actual
downtown
district.
Where
we're
designated
to
review
but
and
see
the
potential
of
keeping
and
saving
and
at
least
being
a
part
of
transitions
that
happen
in
buildings
that
have
historical
significance
in
athens.
K
B
The
owner,
mr
siemens,
has
written
a
letter
asking
us
to
do
this
also,
and
I
think
that
it's
probably
once
now
it's
out
into
the
community.
It
will
be
highly
thought
of
and
very
much
supported,
because
we
do
especially
now
in
covent
time
we
all
are
trying
to
rediscover
our
local
qualities
and-
and
siemens
is
one
of
the
gems.
So
any
questions
miss
medley.
F
Thank
you,
member
fall,
and
thank
you,
mr
valentor,
for
being
here
tonight.
I
was
super
excited
to
see
this.
Obviously
you
know
having
this
business,
which
is
on
the
west
side,
be
highlighted
in
this
way
and
I'm
a
frequent
patron
of
seaman.
So
I
was
excited
for
that
reason
as
well,
could
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
the
benefits
of
a
drd?
F
C
I
know
I
was
on
mute.
Yes,
I
can.
I
can
cover
that
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
mayor
patterson
may
as
well
the
downtown
redevelopment
district,
that
is
it's
a
economic
development
tool
under
ohio,
revised
code
that
has
a
lot
of
flexibility
with
it.
It
actually
has
more
flexibility
than
a
tiff,
but
it's
a
similar
concept
as
a
tiff.
As
far
as
how
the
financing
works,
a
drd
district
needs
to
be
10,
acres
or
less.
That
real
estate
needs
to
be
contiguous
and
within
a
drd.
C
It
needs
to
have
either
a
locally
designated
state
designated
or
nationally
on
the
national
register.
Historic
property,
and
one
of
the
goals
of
that
is
from
is
in
the
state's
perspective,
is
to
try
to
protect
historic
buildings
within
within
municipalities.
C
We
had
several
conversations
with
the
siemens
family
to
explain
what
that
meant
when
you,
the
benefits
to
them,
as
well
as,
like
mr
valentor
referenced,
the
that
they
would
have
to
be
reviewed
by
our
historic
preservation.
District
or
excuse
me,
our
historic
preservation
board
if
they
wanted
to
make
changes
to
their
property
and
seaman
family
is
well
aware
of
that.
They're
they're
invested
in
that
neighborhood
they're,
three
generations
strong
right
now,
and
they
don't
expect
to
go
anywhere.
So
that's
to
them.
C
This
was
really
exciting,
with
revenues
from
a
drd,
the
similar
to
the
tiff,
the
same,
the
the
existing
value
of
a
property
that
money
will
continue
to
be
distributed
as
normal
to
to
the
taxing
authorities.
Any
increase
in
value
portions
of
that
would
be
set
aside
for
the
drd
for
a
period
of
I
believe,
10
years,
and
then
it
would
go
back
to
a
regular
tax
assessment,
split,
cutting
the
pie,
the
drd
for
siemens
I'll
try
to
bring
that
up.
C
While
we're
talking
here,
you
may
have
to
bear
with
me
for
a
moment
or
two.
C
I
know
I
have
it
on
my
folder,
my
files
somewhere,
but
it
incorporates
the
siemens
property,
which
is
goes
all
the
way
to
what's
actually
the
the
old
athens
canal
that
runs
parallel
with
the
driveways,
the
main
driveway
into
from
union
street
onto
the
parking
areas
of
oblena's
hospital,
as
well
as
the
the
real
estate
to
the
immediate
east
of
there,
which
includes,
where
there's
a
new
oblenas
building
being
under
under
construction.
C
As
we
speak
and
the
dials
hearing
clinic
and
the
gas
station
that
the
siemens
family
owns
there
as
well,
10
acres
isn't
a
lot
of
real
estate
when
all
is
said
and
done,
and
so
the
nice
thing
about
this
is
that
if
there
is
additional
development
that's
to
occur
in
that
area
in
the
next
10
years,
if
ohio
health
decides
to
build
an
additional
facility
on
their
campus,
this
money
can
be.
C
The
drd
will
help
cover
costs
for
infrastructure,
signage
on
union
street
things
like
flowers
and
landscaping
that
could
make
sidewalks
all
of
those
things
would
be
opportunities
or
things
that
the
drd
money
can
be
used
for.
C
If
the
siemens
family
were
interested
in
building
an
addition
onto
their
building
and
it
needs
to
go
before
the
historic
preservation
board,
the
rd
monies
could
be
used
to
support
to
cover
the
to
help
cover
the
cost
of
architecture
or
the
design
that
might
be
needed.
Those
additional
costs
it
can
help
set
up,
set
some
of
the
defray
some
of
those
costs
for
building
in
the
proper.
In
that
district,
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
for
a
minute
and
see
if
I
can
find
that
file.
If
that's
okay.
H
Well,
while
you're
looking
paul
as
as
paul
had
indicated,
you
know
the
name
downtown
redevelopment
district,
it's
kind
of
a
misnomer-
I
mean
it's,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
attached
to
the
downtown
it
just
has
to
have
within
its
10-acre
footprint
a
designated
historic
building
which
can
be
locally
designated.
It
can
certainly
be
a
nationally
designated.
H
We
a
lot
of
you,
are
aware
that
the
the
downtown
redevelopment
district
that
is
called
234
washington,
that
is
the
one
that
uses
the
building
in
which
the
cider
house
exists.
That
is
the
historic
structure
that
is
inside
that
drd
the
drds
they're
created
for
economic
development.
That's
what
they're,
for
so
grants
could
be
administered
to
the
historic
building
for
renovation
or
expansion.
H
It
can
also
be
used
to
incentivize
other
businesses
to
move
into
the
downtown
redevelopment
area,
incentivize
developments,
as
paul
indicated
they
run
for
10
years,
and
then
they
sunset
and
then
all
that
increased
property
valuation
goes
back
to
all
the
entities
that
are
entitled
to
that
in
that
property
tax
increase
over
time.
These
are
good
tools
again.
This
is
one
that
I
learned
of
back
in
2016
at
the
same
conference
that
I
learned
about
the
tiffs,
the
neighborhood
tiffs.
H
So
we
feel
this
is
a
valuable
way
to
again
incentivize
economic
development
in
the
city
of
athens,
we're
exploring
some
others,
which
I
won't
get
into
any
details,
but
this
will
make
for
the
third
of
third
drd
in
the
city
of
athens.
C
Can
you
all
see
that
so
just
to
orient
you
the
top
left
hand
corner
of
the
that
within
that
blue
boundary?
Is
you
can
see
the
siemens
grocery
store
in
there,
as
well
as
their
parking
lot
and
gas
station
dials
hearing
center
as
we're
continuing
to
move
east
and
then
what's
currently
the
used
to
be
called
the
gwandy
clinic,
I
believe,
but
now
it's
an
ohio
health
express
care
or
urgent
care
and
to
to
the
south
there.
C
You
can
see
the
very
really
the
opportunity
area
within
the
drd
for
with
a
lot
of
available
real
estate
for
development,
which
includes
a
piece
of
real
estate
where
ohio
health
is
under
construction.
As
we
meet
this
evening.
G
B
L
There
we
go.
Thank
you
so,
during
during
this
process
of
develop
of
developing
the
the
property
lines,
was
there
any
discussion
about
going
across
the
street
and
including
a
portion
of
the
fairgrounds,
or
is
that
just
wasn't
wasn't
as
please
mayor?
No.
H
No,
the
one
thing
we
learned
early
on
when
we
were
exploring
drd
is:
we
did
file
for
a
third
drd
which
captured
part
of
this
property
that
you're
looking
at,
but
we
attempted
to
use
west
union
as
a
way
to
connect
in
the
historic
buildings
were
going
to
be
the
uptown
historic
district
which
is
permissible,
but
what
we
found
out
after
the
fact
from
dsa
is
that
we
could
not.
H
We
would
get.
The
roadway
would
would
get
counted
in
the
overall
acreage
and
so
to
to
cross
over
to
the
other
side
and,
as
you
can
see,
remember
katz's
we're
already
at
9.78
acres,
so
we
really
couldn't
bring
in
more
property
into
this
drd.
We
explored
it
for
sure,
but
this
was
as
good
as
we
could
get.
Okay,
perfect.
Thank
you.
B
Other
questions,
okay,
great
I'll,
bring
this
forward.
It
does
need
a
public
hearing,
so
I
think
if
it
does
we'll
have
one
how's
that
okay,
the
next
on
our
list,
is
the
downtown
historic
district
that
the
map
is
now
up.
For.
B
This
is
another
long
run
plan
that
the
house,
the
historic
preservation
commission,
has
been
working
on
diligently
at
one
point:
they
did
hang
out
hand
out
flyers,
pre-covered
time,
and
so
this
has
been
kind
of
on
the
back
burner
during
that
and
now
we
want
to
bring
it
forward.
B
It
is
the
traditional
uptown
area,
a
kind
of
our
festival
area
I
like
to
think
of
and
that
I,
that
district
would
be
a
national,
historic
district
and
another
reason
john
valentor
is
here
so
is
he
can
discuss
it
in
more
detail
from
the
recommendation
that
they
have
made
to
council.
Thank
you,
john.
K
Okay,
as
you
can
see,
actually
we
were
working
on
creating
a
larger
version
of
a
local
district
for
some
time,
and
then
we
were
in
the
very
beginnings
of
having
public
meetings
and
we
had
previously
met
with
property
owners
from
the
uptown
districts
and
the
outlying
area.
But
because
of
everything,
that's
happened.
We
decided
that
maybe
we
should
ask
council
or
recommend
to
council
at
this
point
in
time
to
accept
the
national
historic
district
which
was
created.
K
The
president
preservation
board
will
be
able
to
review,
provide
oversight
and
review
for
projects
that
occur
in
this
district
to
the
exterior
of
buildings.
It
seems
long
overdue
that
we
should
probably
create
this
local
district.
The
thing
that
a
lot
of
people
get
nervous
about
is
well.
What's
this
going
to
do?
Is
this
going
to
make
it
more
difficult
for
people
to
do
development
in
the
uptown
district
and
as
a
person
who
has
worked
a
lot
in
the
uptown
district
of
athens
over
the
years?
K
One
of
my
primary
objectives
is
to
make
sure
that
that
is
not
the
case
that
the
I've
worked
with
the
code
office
to
develop
a
integrate
the
review
process
from
our
board
into
the
reviews
that
are
already
required
by
the
city
of
athens.
So
it's
not
to
create
delays
in
construction
schedules,
but
actually
to
provide
assistance
to
people
in
terms
of
what
the
exterior
development
of
these
buildings
should
be.
We
have
such
a
variety
of
architecture
in
athens.
K
It's
not
like
we're
trying
to
preserve
some
moment
in
time,
because
so
many
of
the
buildings
are
from
all
different
periods
in
architecture,
but
preserving
the
character
and
nature
of
athens
as
best
as
possible.
Is
our
objective
here
and
it's
necessary
that
city
council
will
adopt
this
district
as
a
local
district
for
our
jurisdiction.
J
Okay,
I
I
have
one,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see:
okay,
okay,
I
guess
any
of
the
three
of
you
could
answer
this.
Whoever
prefers
to,
but
I
I
guess,
if
a
new,
if
a
new
business
or
owner,
wants
to
come
in
and
put
a
business
in
that
district,
exactly
what
would
they
have
to
do?
Would
they
have
to
make
the
business
kind
of
historical
looking
or
are
there
certain
parameters
that
they'd
have
to
fit
in
or
you
know,
how
would
we
talk
to
the
new
business
owners.
K
K
J
I
C
C
Those
guidelines
offer
a
lot
of
flexibility,
specifically
paint
colors,
and
things
like
that
are
not
part
of
those
guidelines
just
to
be
on
that
scenario,
specific
that
that
you're
asking
about
okay,
that
is
something
when
communities
and
neighborhoods
have
additional
guidelines.
They
sometimes
they
create
guideline
books
that
are
specific
to
the
architectural
features
and
character
of
their
specific
district.
When
they
get
into
that
level
of
detail,
they
can
they
can
look
at
those
requirements
and
say
you
know
these
are
the
these.
C
Are
the
traditional
paint
colors
of
this
type
of
architecture
from
the
early
1900s,
or
something
like
that,
and
they
can
have
some
control
over
that?
That
being
said,
department
of
the
interior
standards
in
this
situation
would
not
apply
bright,
orange
et
cetera
they
they
could
in
theory
they
could.
They
could
do
that.
The
goal
of
the
preservation
board
at
that
point
would
be
to
have
a
conversation
about
those
pros
and
cons.
C
Second,
to
your
point
about
the
economic
development
standpoint,
there
is
countless
studies
out
there
that
show
that
that
historic
districts
that
have
that
have
local
control
over
design
review,
that
the
properties
are
worth
more
money
that
the
rents
are
higher
and
that
they
are
more
advantageous
to
businesses,
to
open
up
in,
to
draw
tourists
to
them
and
they're
incredibly
important
to
the
surrounding
community
to
the
campus
et
cetera.
And
so
when
we're
thinking
about
how
does
the
city
of
athens
be
competitive?
C
How
do
we,
how
do
we
put
our
best
foot
forward?
How
do
we
put
our
best
look
forward?
One
of
the
best
things
we
have
is
our
uptown
district
and
so
looking
at
it.
From
that
perspective,
it
actually
does
make
us
more
competitive.
C
It
makes
the
city
more
attractive
to
parents
who
are
looking
at
locations
for
their
kids
to
go
to
college
and
for
people
who
want
to
they
want
to
come
up
town
and
visit.
They
want
to
spend
their
money
in
our
stores
and
participate
in
the
local
economy.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
and-
and
so
I
just
I
don't-
I
don't
know
if
I
should
announce
this
or
not.
I
just
returned
from
sanibel
island
down
in
florida,
and
they
they
adopted
something
somewhat
similar
to
this,
where
they
wanted
to
maintain
a
certain
look
throughout
the
their
main,
their
main
street
periwinkle
and
the
the
largest
largest
companies
you
know,
dairy
queen
they
comply
their.
Their
signs
are
no
more
than
two
feet
off
the
ground,
so
it's
not
the
brand
of
the
of
the
specific
business.
L
B
Right,
yeah
and
and
other
places
have
done
the
same
thing
even
around
in
ohio,
too
member
senator
smedley.
F
Thank
you,
member
paul,
and
thanks
again,
mr
ellington,
for
the
explanation.
My
main
question
had
was
going
to
be.
Why
do
we
need
a
local
designation
if
we
have
the
national
designation
and
you've
answered
that?
For
me,
it
provides
that
local
control.
Currently.
Is
there
a
process
that
businesses
have
to
go
through
to
make
those
exterior
changes
based
on
the
fact
that
they
have
the
national
designation,
or
will
this
local
designation
create
that.
K
Currently,
there
is
none
the
only
time
businesses
would
go
through.
Our
board
is
if
they
want
to
get
a
national
some
kind
of
national
assistance
in
their
buildings.
West
union
street
did
and
required
the
board.
At
least
the
board,
helped
to
the
owners
with
providing
documentation
to
the
national
district
for
historic
preservation,
to
get
grants
and
to
get
assistance
and
renovation.
K
Right
now,
there's
none.
We
have
no.
We
have
no
authorization
whatsoever
as
our
board
to
do
anything
uptown
unless
people
ask
for
it,
but
there's
no
requirement-
and
I
understand
both
your
concerns
and
that's
why.
I
think
that
making
the
person's
procedure
as
easy
as
and
understandable
and
as
possible,
is
going
to
increase
the
ability
of
the
property
owners
to
run
the
modifications
through
the
system.
K
K
I
know
that
because
I've
had
to
go
through
these
kind
of
things,
and
I
know
that
that's
not
good
for
the
economics
of
this,
the
the
district,
so
we've
already
talked
to
the
board
about
expediting
any
kind
of
reviews,
and
in
my
experience
I
I
I
find
I
found
in
the
past
that
most
property
owners
are
always
looking
for
advice
as
to
what
what
can
I
do
here,
and
I
don't
think
that
our
participation
will
be
anything
but
beneficial
for
not
only
the
athens
but
for
the
owners
of
the
businesses
that
are
moving
in.
B
Right,
thank
you.
Paul
did
you
have
some
comments.
C
Yeah,
just
just
to
be
clear,
a
building.
That's
on
the
national
registry
that
there's
that's
essentially
just
recognizing
that
a
building
is
was
historic.
There's
no,
there's
no
requirements
that
that
a
property
owner
of
a
historic
building-
that's
on
the
national
registry,
do
do
any.
They
can
make
any
modifications
that
they
want
to
to
a
historic
building.
They
can
tear
it
down.
They
can
they
can
build
additions
to
it.
They
can
put
siding
on
it,
that's
inappropriate.
They
can
do
change
windows.
C
The
federal
government
puts
the
the
requirement
for
for
for
review,
of
of
historic
districts
and
historic
properties
on
on
municipal
governments
to
to
identify
them
to
locally
designate
them,
and
then
from
that
point
forward,
then
you
know
if
the
city
has
a
historic
preservation,
ordinance
which
we
do
title
45
and
qualified
historic
preservation
board,
which
we
do
meets
the
standards
of
the
the
state
of
ohio's,
historic
preservation,
board
or
historic
preservation
office.
C
It's
also
possible
that
modifications
are
that
are
inappropriate
for
a
historic
building
that
so
many
of
them
are
made
that
the
that
a
district
could
actually
lose
its
status
as
a
historic
district
or
a
building
could
lose
its
status
because
it's
no
longer
so
many
changes
have
been
made
that
the
historic
integrity
is
gone.
H
C
Seen
some
of
that
over
the
last
ever
since
1982.,
some
of
those
buildings
have
been
changed
significantly,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
really
the
only
opportunity
we
would
have
to
try
to
slow
that
down
to
try
to
make
sure
that
that
these
buildings
remain
historic,
and
it
is
also
important
to
note
that
when,
when
work
is
done
on
historic
buildings,
that's
appropriate
for
them
that
property
owners
are
then
eligible
for
historic
preservation,
tax
credits
from
the
state
and
from
the
u.s
department
of
the
interior.
So
there's
there
are
financial
benefits
to
them.
B
Right
well
also,
I
think,
in
the
future,
when
there's
in
the
future,
there
might
be
grants
that
are
associated
with
it
because
of
better
increased
funding
of
certain
things
in
the
future.
So
any
other
questions.
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you,
john
for
being
here.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
work
that
the
commission
has
been
doing.
It's
awesome.
Thank
you.
So
the
next
thing
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
solar,
solar
power
and
solar
access
for
athens.
B
This
is
this
was
put
forward
by
yet
another
committee
that
that
sam
works
with
sam
crowell
works
with
the
sustainability
commission
and
they
put
it
forward
right
now.
We
are
a
soul,
smart
city,
meaning
that
we
support
solar
access
and
solar
power
and
through
processes
and
and
different
things,
it's
been
suggested
that
if
we
change
our
title
23
zoning
code
in
just
a
little
few
ways,
then
we
can
begin
the
process
of
being
making
soul
smart
silver.
So
this
is
something
that's
been
put
forward
by
the
commission.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Sorry,
sarah,
okay,
the
big
things
are
that
it
changes
the
definition
of
what
a
solar
energy
system
is.
It
puts
solar,
so
solar
energy
systems
under
title
23.04,
permitted
uses
and
permitted
accessory
use.
So
that
means
that
you
don't
have
to
go
and
get
a
special
building
permit
or
go
through
different
go
through
like
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
If
you
want
to
do
it,
it's
an
ex
it's
an
approved,
accessory
condition
and
there's
a
height
exemption
from
height
for
certain
types
of
solar
panels
on
flat
and
pitched
roofs.
I
Thank
you.
Member
fall
you're,
not
missing
anything
that
I
am
aware
of
I'll
just
say
that
sarah
connolly
blue
has
worked
very
hard
and
done
her
due
diligence
on
this,
and
this
will
just
continue
to
make
our
community
very
solar
friendly
and,
as
we
move
into
further
projects,
this
designation
from
soul
smart
will
be
very
good
for
the
city
to
have
so.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward.
J
I'm
really
glad
to
see
this
proposal
coming
up.
I
was
talking
to
sarah
conley
blue
about
it
last
fall,
and
I'm
just
really
glad
to
see
that
it
is
now
being
considered
by
city
council
yeah,
the
more
we
can
do
to
help
people
go
solar,
the
better
and
and
it
will
make
our
our
community
much
more
attractive
to
future
companies
and
and
people
who
want
to
do
remote
work.
So
this
is
fantastic.
C
All
I
want
I
just
would
like
to
to
two
comments
to
make,
one
of
which
is
that
this
this
has
been
vetted
by
two
of
your
boards
and
commissions,
the
sustainability
commission,
as
well
as
the
city's
planning
commission.
So
I
don't
know
if
we've
ever
had
that
happen
in
the
12
years,
I've
been
in
athens,
so
that
alone,
I
think,
is
pretty
cool.
C
Secondly,
just
as
a
reminder
to
the
to
council,
when
several
of
us
and
sarah
sarah
connolly
believe
was,
was
the
lead
on
this,
we
severals
were
having
meetings
to
try
to
move
some
of
this
forward.
Our
initial
strategy
was
actually
to
bring
this
forward
as
a
legislative
item
to
commemorate
earth
day
in
april,
and
everything
got
put
on
hold
because
of
coronavirus,
and
so
now
we're
we're.
C
This
was
trying
to
get
this
back
on
track
from
something
that
we
we
we
thought
would
have
been
settled
four
or
five
months
ago,
so
that
itself.
I
think
I
look
at
that
as
a
success
that
we're
able
to
be
working
upon
things
from
earlier
this
year
that
we
lost
track
of
for
a
few
months.
H
You
know
when
I
go
to
the
national
league
of
cities
conferences
I
always
meet
with
the
soul,
smart
people
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
really
trying
to
have
them.
Consider
you
know,
for
the
city
of
athens
is
our
carbon
fee,
which
they
are
quite
impressed
with,
but
unfortunately
it
doesn't
fit
in
any
of
the
boxes
that
are
required
to
check
off
to
go
from
bronze
to
silver
and
then
to
gold.
H
But
hopefully
they
will
reconsider
and
at
least
acknowledge
that
the
city
of
athens
is
doing
far
more
than
some
other
communities
across
the
nation
when
it
comes
to
trying
to
be
as
sustainable
and
responsible
as
possible.
B
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
for
all
your
your
and
I'm
going
to
write
a
letter
to
sarah
and
tell
her
that
I'm
really
super
sorry
about
butchering
her
last
name
so
anyway.
The
last
item
on
our
very
long
list
is
weeds.
We
always
are
worried
about
weeds.
This
is
actually
a
change
to
the
general
rules,
title
ix
in
our
code,
which
is
the
weed
section
that
says
you
shall
mow.
B
If
it's
over
a
certain
height,
we
are
changing
it
to
include
three
basic
things
so
that
it
matches
with
the
landscaping
ordinances
that
are
being
changed
and
coming
through,
so
they
can
all
go
together
it.
It
says
that
the
height
restrictions
and
such
are
that
if
you
are
a
native
and
pollinator-friendly
athens
yard
program,
member
that
you
are
exempt
from
the
height
and
and
that
the
height
and
those
those
issues.
However,
if
you,
you
cannot
have
noxious
weeds
or
invasives.
I
Yeah,
I
would
just
like
to
make
sure
I
understand:
not
only
can
you
not
have
a
full
garden
of
of
invasive
species
such
as
not
wood,
but
you
you
need
that
that
you
need
to
be
in
the
registration
program
to
have
a
a
a
registered
native
and
pollinator
friendly
yard
to
be
exempt
from
the
restrictions.
I
B
Right-
and
that
goes
with
the
new
program
that
we
we
talked
about
a
couple
weeks
ago
at
the
at
the
other
committee
meeting,
so
they're
all
kind
of
catching
up
and
when
they
all
catch
up,
then
I'll
introduce
it
to
council,
but
I
think
there's
another
one
that
needs
to
catch
up.
B
So
you
pull
on
one
string
and
there's
other
stuff
that
comes
out,
but
I
I
do
want
to
say
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
when
sam
was
talking
about
is
that
when
covet
hit
and
everything
closed
down,
it
was,
you
know
the
earth
day
celebration
and
the
athens
beautification
day,
which
was
going
to
try
to
you,
know,
plant
800
trees
and
all
those
things
just
got
completely
blown
up,
but
now
we're
getting
back
on
track
and
that
there's
other
programs
like
the
some
of
the
stuff
that
sam's
and
the
sustainability
office
has
been
working
with
so
we're
going
forward.
B
You
know
fulfilling
that
the
resolution
that
we
passed
in
january
resolution
to
you
know
having
a
climate
emergency
because
we
still
do
you
know.
Thank
you.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
putting
up
with
stuff.
Remember
personally.
F
Thanks
member
paul,
my
only
concern
which
I
think
you
addressed
already
was
seeing
that
the
inch
allowable
height
that
it
that
a
non-designated
yard
could
grow
to
went
from
eight
to
ten.
But
when
you
explained
it
was
part
of
a
best
practice
change
and
also
mentioning
it
mean
less
mowing.
That
does
make
sense.
But
I
was
just
primarily
concerned
with
people
who
who
are
have
a
problematic
yard
in
their
neighborhood,
and
then
they
just
have
to
wait
that
much
longer
for
it
to
be
addressed.
F
But
I
don't
know
how
prevalent
that
is
even
an
issue.
So
that
was
the
only
thought
that
I
had,
but
your
explanation
made
sense.
Thank
you
great.
E
This
may
be
slightly
off
track
and
not
covered
by
what
you're
proposing,
but
I've
noticed
in
the
last
few
years
among
at
least
in
my
neighborhood
and
some
others,
people
are
using
a
particular
long
leaf
bladed.
I
think
they
call
pampas
grasses
that
grow
very
tall.
They
look
great
in
the
spring.
B
E
Possibly,
I
don't
know
the
name,
but
I'm
not
I'm
not
a
botanist,
even
though
I
pretend
to
be.
But
to
me
this
looks,
looks
very
dangerous,
especially
at
this
time.
The
climate
change
we
see
the
the
entire
west
coast
is
is
basically
on
fire.
We're
getting
drier
and
drier
spells.
We've
had
a
recent
rain,
but
I
keep
track
of
the
rainfall
and
I've
been
noticing
that
we
get.
E
B
When,
when
you
look
at
on
a
private
property
residential
private
property,
there
are
few,
the
state
has
preeminence
when
it
comes
to
those
sort
of
things.
Just
like
the
state
has
pre
pre
ex,
you
know
has
exempted
them
our
ability
to
say
like
to
lowe's.
You
can't
plant
those,
but
individual
citizens
can
complain
to
the
state
that
somebody
is
selling
really
invasive
species
because
they're,
you
know,
so
that's
something
that
we
don't
have
control
over.
This
is
mostly
the
landscaping.
Ordinance
is
mostly
for
commercial,
ordinance
and
stuff.
B
G
I
just
wanted
to
publicly.
D
And
I'll
acknowledge
a
comment
that
that
came
through
that
people
might
want
to
check
with
the
athens,
soil
and
water
conservancy
for
information
on
pollinator
plots
and
perhaps
seed
packets
for
non-invasive
pollinators.
B
Well,
and
with
the
pro
when
the
pollinator,
we
have
to
figure
out
a
shorter
name
for
that
program.
When
that
comes
up,
it
will
have
guidelines
and
and
examples
and
those
sort
of
things
it's
it's
a
model.
It
is
modeled
after
a
b
city
usa
program
that
they
do
so.
Okay,
any
other
questions
great
well.
Thank
you
for
hanging
out
with
me.
A
All
right
we're
going
to
move
on
to
finance
and
personnel
and
council
member
crowl
is
chairing
this
and
council
members
reisner,
kotzus
and
smedley
are
also
on
that
committee.
I
will
note
briefly
that
we
do
have
two
other
items
that
came
up
that
are
rather
pressing
that
chair
crowl
will
mention
on
one
on
appropriations,
went
on
mending
and
mou,
and
I
for
our
cares,
act
legislation
passed
last
week
and
council
member
crowl.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
president
nicely.
Yes,
we
do
have
a
number
of
appropriation
and
transfer
issues
that
I
will
all
handle
together,
but
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
pumper
truck.
I
We
have
a
one-year
note
that
note
is
due
on
october
16th,
the
total
that
we
owe
on
that
note
is
226
thousand
six
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
and
ninety
six
cents.
I
believe,
maybe
that's
forty
six.
I
can't
read
my
own
writing.
I
In
the
past
we
have
paid
down
100
000,
and
that
is
the
amount
that's
already
appropriated
in
the
budget.
The
auditor
and
the
mayor
recommend
that
we
do
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
again
this
year.
Note
that
fifty
thousand
dollars
comes
from
ohio
university,
so
we
would
be
matching
ohio
university's
amount
for
that
for
paying
down
that
note.
So
is
there
any
questions
from
the
committee
about
the
pumper
truck
note,
okay,
anyone
else
on
council
like
to
address
anything
about
the
bumper
truck.
I
We
need
our
pumper
truck
and
we
are
glad
we
are
paying
down
our
note
on
the
pumper
truck
okay.
Well,
we
will
move
forward
then.
So
the
next
item
is
a
transfer,
a
cdbg
transfer.
Those
are
community
development,
block
grants
and,
just
to
remind
everybody,
we
receive
as
part
of
cdbg
grant
funds
that
we
receive.
They
include
funds
to
administer
those
grants
in
the
past.
I
We
have
simply
left
those
admin,
specific
funds
for
administration,
of
the
grants
in
the
general
cdbg
fund
for
to
use
for
other
projects,
but
the
city
was
audited
this
year
and
the
the
grand
tour
wants
that
those
specific
administrative
funds
actually
transferred
to
the
departments
that
do
the
paperwork,
and
we
just
need
to
do
this
before
the
end
of
the
year.
I
It's
a
total
of
eleven
thousand
three
hundred
dollars,
and
this
is
really
just
an
accounting
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
these
funds
are
in
the
in
the
in
the
departments
in
the
in
the
funds
that
they
need
to
be
for
auditing
purposes.
I
I
We
all
know
the
changes
that
have
happened
during
the
pandemic
to
different
departments
in
the
city,
and
the
community
center
has
been
hit
pretty
hard
in
terms
of
on
the
revenue
they're
able
to
generate
with
their
programs
just
to
remind
everyone
that
we
have
transferred,
I
think
either
60
or
80
000
already
since
may,
into
270
to
to
meet
the
community
center's
requirements.
I
I
can
double
that,
but
we
will
be
discussing
next
monday,
this
transfer,
where
we
will
be
putting
this
forward
any
discussion
on
this
request.
Yes,
remember:
smedley.
F
I
I
do
not.
I
do
believe
that
director
moores
will
be
joining
us
in
a
couple
of
weeks
and
we
could
get
some
additional
information.
I
don't
believe
auditor
hecht
is
with
us
today.
I
don't
know
if
the
mayor
has
any
additional
information
about
that.
Okay,
so
no
I'm
sorry,
members
medley.
I
don't
have
any
additional
information.
A
I
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
did
find
my
note
that
by
transferring
that
20
that
would
make
a
total
of
80
000
that
has
been
moved
into
270
since
may,
so
it
would
not
be
a
hundred
thousand.
It
would
be
a
total
of
eighty
thousand.
I
Also
discussion
that
the
the
auditor
and
again
I
apologize-
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
on
this
either,
but
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
items
that
are
of
an
emergency
nature
as
we
as
we
deal
with
our
changes
to
our
revenue.
But
the
the
auditor
did
indicate
that
there
is
an
appropriation
shortage
in
our
internal
service
fund
fund
865.
I
You
know
that
is
a
good
question.
It
came
in
a
little
bit
late
to
me
and
I
was
not
able
to
do
research
on
it.
No,
it's
fine
yeah.
A
E
I
believe
I
believe,
you're
right
president
nicely
that
different.
We
have
many
different
departments,
but
we
all
share
certain
features
like
the
internet.
The
web
servers
copying
services
that
sort
of
thing
so
somehow
there's
a
magic
formula
that
has
been
derived
that
says
that
each
department
has
has
used
a
certain
percentage
and
should
share
the
cost
thereof
of,
and
so
it's
split
out
that
way
so,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
having
a
hard
time
wrapping
my
head
around
how
there
could
be
a
shortage,
though,
if
anything
at
the
beginning
of.
E
Part
of
the
budget
set
aside-
and
I
anyway
I
hope
to
hear
more
about
this
later.
I
I
appreciate
your
information
member
eisner.
This
was
late
friday
when
the
auditor's
office
became
aware
of
a
shortage
in
865
the
internal
service
fund
that
we
could
bring
up
today.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
have
additional
information
on
it,
but
we
will
ask
the
auditor
to
get
that
information
to
everybody
so
that
we
are
prepared
for
the
concrete
information
next
week.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
another
item
that
came
up
rather
quickly
is
that
we
have.
The
hap
cap
has
been
reviewing
the
contract
for
the
utilities,
assistance,
emergency
relief
grant
program
that
we
have
started
with
them
and
they
have
found
a
portion
of
that
contract
that
they
believe
needs
to
be
reworded.
I
And
the
hold
on
here's,
the
second,
the
issue
is
on.
I
The
percentage
of
let's
see
I'm
sorry
here,
it
is.
I
Lisa
has
has
indicated
that
this
kind
of
change
would
have
to
go
back
through
council
as
an
amendment,
so,
which
is
why
I'm
bringing
up
today
the
language
they
would
like
to
change
is
under
section
17
compensation.
The
language
should
be.
The
grand
tour
will
compensate
the
grantee
for
administration
services
for
project
implementation
based
on
actual
expense,
not
to
exceed
seven
percent
of
the
total
grant
award
or
five
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
hapcap
director.
I
Hattis
does
believe
that
this
was
our
understanding
between
the
city
and
hapcap,
but
the
clarification
has
been
asked
to
be
made
in
the
contract
language
from
hapcap's
chief
financial
officer.
So
if
we
are
agreeable
to
that-
and
we
can
send
them
a
new
page
of
that
contract,
then
they
can
do
that.
Get
that
executed
quickly.
So
I
believe
on
monday
president
nicely.
I
We
would
suspend
the
rules
to
to
pass
that
quickly
so
that
we
don't
have
any
delay
in
getting
the
program
moving
to
get
funds
to
people
who
do
need
that
utility
assistance.
A
Right
and
as
I
understand
looking
at
the
wording,
I
mean
it's
minor,
but
I
understand
how
hapcap
thinks
it's
significant
and
so
that
that
seems
fine.
It
seems
to
me
that
they've
rearranged
several
of
the
phrases,
so
the
administrative
fee
remains
seven
percent
right.
The
cap
remains
5,
250
that
they
have
inserted
the
clause
based
on
actual
expense.
A
Change
that
we're
going
to
be
amending
that
ordinance
to
incorporate
that
yeah.
L
Yes,
thank
you
so
where?
Where
does
the
program
stand
right
now?
Are
people
reaching
out
for
it
and
are?
Are
they
being
engaged
with
with
the
status
of
it?
Because
I
assume
we
can't
go
forward
with
it
until
this
contract
has
been
amended.
H
That's
accurate
that
it
can't
go
forward
until
this
is
amended
and
we
do
get
the
language
changed,
but
there
are.
There
are
people
who
are
interested
in
applying
for
this
much
like
people
who
have
already
applied
for
and
received
funding
for
mortgage,
slash,
rent
relief.
H
So
if
we
can
get
this
through,
it's
and
I
agree
with
president
nisly-
I've
looked
it
over
as
well.
The
language
change,
just
you
know,
act
the
the
statement
of.
Is
it
actual
expenses.
I
mean
it's,
it's
pretty
simple,
the
changes
that
are
in
place,
but
I
again
I
believe
that
it's
this
the
cfo
for
hapcap.
J
I
very
much
agree
with
mayor
patterson
that
we
should
try
to
expedite
this
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
nobody
gets
their
water
shut
off
in
the
town
of
athens.
I
just
think
it's
really
important
to
help
people
right
now
during
this
economic
turn
down,
and
so
I
just
wonder
if
there's
any
appropriate
mechanism
by
which
we
might
be
able
to
approve
this
tonight.
If
everybody
who
has
seen
the
document
is
okay
with
it.
D
H
We
are
not.
We
are
not.
We
have
not
shut
off
water
to
any
resident
due
to
covet
19
the
city
of
athens,
although
there
again
I've
shared
with
council
there's
certainly
need,
because
we
have
citizens
that
are
struggling
with
with
a
lot
of
their
bills
and
to
include
their
utility
bills.
F
Thanks
member
crowd,
could
we
get
a
report,
a
status,
update
next
committee
or
next
regular
session,
whenever
it's
appropriate
on
the
how
much
progress
we're
making
on
getting
folks
connected
with
the
mortgage
and
rent
assistance?
And
then
maybe
after
a
month
of
the
utilities,
one
get
a
sense
of
how
many
people
are
taking
advantage.
Just
I'm
just
curious
if
the
words
getting
out
or
if
there's
as
much
of
a
demand
as
we
think
there
is,
that
kind
of
thing.
H
I
I
would,
I
would
be
absolutely
in
favor
of
giving
you
a
monthly
report
and
I
can,
at
the
next
city
council
meeting
regular
session.
I
can
give
you,
or
at
least
provide
that
information
that
I've
received
from
glenn
crippen
to
date,
so
that
people
are
aware
of
what
has
been
used.
Some
interesting
information
that
I
just
was
made
aware
of
last
week
is
that
the
center
for
disease
control
cdc
has
come
out
with
a
moratorium
on
evictions,
and
so
that
is
helpful
as
well.
H
So
we
may
not
see
well
that
moratorium
is
is
predicated
upon
individuals
taking
advantage
of
any.
You
know,
any
assistance
programs
that
are
out
there
so
we'll
see
how
the
remainder
of
our
housing
assistance,
rent
and
mortgage
assistance
program
continues
to
work.
So
I
will
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
give
updates
on
both
of
these
on
a
monthly
basis.
If
council
thinks
every
month
is,
is
adequate.
I
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
member
smedley.
That's
excellent
excellent
question
would
be
nice
to
have
those
updates
and,
as
coveted
relief
funds
come
in.
Obviously
we
all
want
to
use
them
and
help
the
population
as
possible,
and
these
two
grant
programs
are
certainly
one
way
to
do
that.
I
I
This
is
an
annual
bid
of
council
business.
Last
year
we
authorized
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
2020
calendar
year
for
the
public
defender's
office.
I
We
we
expended-
or
we
actually
will
end
up
expending
in
the
2020
calendar
year-
seventy
seven
thousand
four
hundred
and
twenty
four
dollars
and
sixty
two
cents.
So
we
will
have
leftover
money
from
the
appropriation,
so
we
will
need
to
determine
whether
we
want
to
for
2021
do
again:
100
000
for
this
contract
or
or
perhaps
go
a
bit
lower.
I
It's
been
proposed
that
we
do
90
000
again.
I
would
appreciate,
I
only
know
last
year's
actual
expenditures.
It
would
be
obviously
helpful
to
have
a
series
of
years,
so
we
could
look
at
what
the
the
target
amount
should
be
for
for
this
coming
year.
E
Yeah,
I
have
one
remember
eisner
go
ahead,
but
don't
we
share
the
cost
with
the
county
or
public
defender.
I
Yes,
this
is
this,
isn't
a
in
a
I
mean
this
is
the
mayor's.
You
know
it's
authorizing
the
mayor
to
have
an
agreement
with
the
county
commissioners
right,
but
that
100
000
is
fully
from
the
city,
so
I
don't
know
what
portion
right.
But,
yes,
it
is
with
the
county
commissioners
and.
I
E
Like
we're
off
like
three
or
four
months,
we're
off
step
by
for
for
some
strange
reason
and
and
consequently
the
amount
of
monies
that
we
are
going
for
are
not
necessarily
a
12-month
calendar
year.
Are
they
it's
sort
of
it's
a
strange
system
to
mine?
I
and
you
know,
for
I've,
been
doing
this
for
nine
years
and
I
still
haven't
figured
it
out.
I
When
you
well,
unless
members
medley
knows
what
the
answer
is,
mr
reisner,
I
don't
have
an
answer
from
my
members.
Medley.
F
Thank
you
amber
kyle.
I
do
not.
I
was
just
curious
to
know.
We
don't
have
to
answer
it
tonight.
If
we
don't
know
it,
obviously,
as
if
the
difference
with
actual
versus
budgeted,
if
we
know
that
had
something
to
do
with
covid
or
if
that
was
if
it
was
other
reasons
why
it
was
different
and
the
recommendation
for
for
90
000,
you
said
was
that
coming
from
the
auditor's
office
that.
I
G
D
I
I
know
that
the
public
defender's
office
recently
had
an
attorney
leave
their
office
to
go
somewhere
else,
and
I
know
that
they
have
been
understaffed
even
before
that.
So
I
I
would
just
hope
that
we
have
communication
from
the
director
there,
because
I,
I
believe,
they're
advertising
to
hire
at
least
one
public
defender,
and
so
I
I
I
just
wonder
if,
if
we
have
communication
from
their
office,
that
would
suggest
that
there
would
be
a
change
going
forward
if,
if
their
staffing
levels
have
changed.
I
Okay,
any
other
commentary
on
the
public.
Yes,
remember
cloud
phone.
J
J
But
if,
if
by
chance,
we
get
a
green
light
from
that
director,
then
I,
my
two
cents
are
that
90
000
would
be
appropriate
because
they
didn't
use
all
of
the
100,
but
that
would
give
them
a
little
more
leeway
and
it
wouldn't
make
them
think
that
they
have
to
count
every
penny
and
dime.
So
I
think
that
sounds
like
a
good
compromise
figure.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
the
last
item
on
the
finance
and
personnel
agenda
is
an
archwest
update
and
I
would
like
if
member
smedley
would
like
to
speak
to
this
first
or
we
can
just
go
right
to
the
mayor
and
ask
him
to
mayor.
Please
tell
us
about
arts
west.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
member
crawl,
so
to
give
everyone
an
update,
kind
of
an
overview.
You
know
due
to
the
covet
19
pandemic
and
the
series
of
orders
that
came
down
or
directives
from
governor
dewine's
office
in
terms
of
closures
of
a
whole
sundry
of
different
businesses
and
operations.
H
Arts
west
fell
under
that
that
arts
west
was
closed
and
on
august
25th,
the
interim
health
director
came
out
with
a
rescinding
order
of
that
particular
the
particular
element,
that
is
entertainment
venues,
and
so
that
has
been
walked
back.
There
are
pretty
detailed
guidelines
as
to
how
entertainment
venues
can
be
reopened
again.
H
H
H
Since
arts
west
doesn't
have
seating
fixed
seating,
we
will
likely
use
something
similar
to
the
fire
code
capacity
number
and
work
it
that
way,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
still
has
to
follow
in
line
with
the
six
foot
separation
between
individuals,
the
social
distancing
that
is
also
part
of
the
entertainment
venue
directive
that
has
come
down
so
that
went
into
a
place
into
effect
at
11,
59
p.m.
On
august
25th.
H
So
now
that
that
is
is
has
changed
that
we
I've
given
direction
to
the
director
of
arts,
parks
and
recreation
since
director
moore
this
is
her
venue,
at
least
she
manages
it
overall,
along
with
all
the
other
portions
or
elements
that
fall
under
arts
parks
and
recreation.
H
H
Luckily,
as
I've
been
tracking
it,
it
isn't
going
up
as
steep
as
what
we
saw
back
in
july,
but
it
is
going
up.
It's
significant.
I
I
think
that
needs
to
be
also
mentioned,
as
I'm
talking
about
the
reopening
of
arts
west.
H
But
what
what
I
think
we
see
as
a
real
opportunity
is
that,
under
the
cares
act,
funding
guidance
we
can
use
the
cares
act,
money
for
things
that
are
I.t
related,
and
so
what
I
am
exploring
is
having
possibly
and
I'm
saying
possibly
having
fiber
go
from
the
city
building
up
to
arts
west,
which
will
certainly
allow
for
the
the
ability
to
do
virtual
programming
out
of
arts
west
and
having
arts
west
become
a
true
virtual.
Virtually
programmed
venue.
H
Also
looking
at
some
other
things,
but
you
know
that
what
I
really
need
is
for
director
moore
when
she
comes
back
from
her
family.
Medical
leave
she'll
be
coming
back
and
I
would
like
for
her
to
to
speak
directly
to
council
as
to
what
that's
going
to
look
like,
but
I've
given
her
the
direction
that
we
do
need
to
look
at
reopening
arts
west.
H
Soon
and
again,
like
I
said
I'd
mentioned,
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
is
sorely
needed
at
arts
west
would
be
something
like
having
fiber
to
the
building
itself
so
that
we
have
reliable
broadband
at
that
building,
which
could
open
up
the
opportunities
by
the
way
for
there
to
be
community
wi-fi
in
the
parking
lot
area
of
arts
west,
which
would
certainly
complement
what
I
know
our
school
system
is
having
to
work
through
with
making
sure
that
k-12
was
able
to
get
their
homework
accomplished,
work
accomplished
whatever,
but
again
we
seize
an
opportunity
in
utilizing.
H
I
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
member
smedley,.
F
Thank
you,
member
crowl,
and
thank
you
mayor
for
that
update.
I'm
sorry,
director
moore
couldn't
be
here,
but
I'm
glad
to
know
that
she's
slated
to
to
be
here
in
the
future.
F
F
F
So
I
appreciate
mayor
you're
revisiting
that.
So
I
have
a
few
questions
and
you
may
not
know
the
answers
right
now
and
that's
okay.
F
Do
you
have
a
timeline
for
a
reopen-
and
I
know
you
mentioned-
that's
also
part
of
director
moore's
directive
at
this
point,
and
would
that
include
bringing
back
the
program
specialist,
and
I
say
that
with
the
understanding
that
we
just
talked
about
having
to
move
funds
into
the
arts
parks
and
rec
budget
because
of
its
struggles
financially.
F
So
I
understand
that,
but
I'm
just
curious
to
know,
to
what
extent
would
that
could
we
see
that
happening
anytime
soon?
Thank
you.
H
What
staffing
would
look
like
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
everyone
needs
to
be
aware
of
is
that
you
know
the
one
department
in
the
city
that
is
heavily
dependent
upon
programming
and
you
know
generating
revenue
that
comes
into
arts
parks
and
rec
through
the
programming.
H
You
know
the
the
we
recognized
early
on
as
an
example
that,
when
the
order
came
down
for
what
would
be
required
for
a
swimming
pool
aquatic
center
or
whatever
that
financially,
that
just
was
not
going
to
work
in
terms
of
the
guidelines
that
we
receive
from
the
ohio
department
of
health
and
from
the
governor's
office
it
financially
again,
and
it's
a
facility
that
everyone's
aware
of
this,
the
pool
is
a
facility
that
relies
heavily
on
family
memberships
season
memberships,
and
we
realized
that,
with
the
capacity
limitations
that
that
pool
would
have
that
it
would
not
be
financially
conceivable
to
have
that
particular
asset
open.
H
The
same
holds
true
with
other
functions
of
arts
parks
and
rec.
You
know
the
community
center
with
with
you
know,
with
yoga
with
cardio
kickboxing.
You
know
name
the
different
things
that
go
on
in
the
community
center,
I'm
sorry
yeah
at
the
community
center.
You
know
trying
to
make
sure
that
they
can
socially
distance,
especially
in
a
in
an
area
where
you
are
exerting
yourself
and
breathing
heavy.
And
you
know
the
potential
for
spread
is
certainly
there.
H
But
again
I
really
believe
that
for
us
to
have
have
a
reliable
broadband
up
to
that
building,
it's
certainly
going
to
make
it
easier
to
do
virtual
programming
out
of
that
particular
site
itself,
so
we'll
explore
the
other
thing
too.
You
know,
I
think
that
council
needs
to
recognize
is
that,
unfortunately,
the
strings
attached
to
the
cares
act.
H
Money
in
some
cases
almost
put
unrealistic
timelines
in
which
to
utilize
that
money,
but
I
think
that
worth
something
like
this,
because
I've
seen
one
estimate
as
to
what
fiber
could
cost
up
to
the
arm
up
to
I'm
sorry,
the
arts
west,
that
it
is
achievable,
it's
just
having
to
to
you,
know
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time
working
on
making
that
happen.
David
dudding,
the
director
of
it
he's,
engaged
we're
actually
meeting
wednesday
to
discuss
this
in
particular,
I
too
have
I.
H
I
need
to
acknowledge
that
I
have
heard
from
received
emails
from
a
lot
of
citizens,
and
I
am
certainly
appreciative
of
everything
that
people
have
said.
I've
actually
met
with
groups,
some
of
them
who
are
are
participating
or
participants
here
tonight,
I've
met
with
at
length
with
individuals
and
and
kind
of
thinking
through
how
we
can
get
arts
west
up
and
running
again.
F
F
So
I
appreciate
that
what
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
be
again
just
given
the
community
response,
and
I
think
this
might
be
appreciated
of
others
as
well-
is
just
a
plan
in
place
just
to
give
us
a
sense
of
what
what
does
the
future
of
arts
west
look
like,
whether
it's
phased
or
or
what,
in
terms
of
you
know
when
you
start
virtual,
and
then
you
expand
on
to
allowing
programming
in
person,
so
we
have
a
road
map
as
we
move
forward.
F
The
other
comment
I
wanted
to
make
too
was
you
know.
On
friday
I
saw
a
lot
of.
F
I
saw
a
post
from
the
community
center's
facebook
page
about
the
programming
that
they're
doing
and
it's
relating
to
sports
and
activities
that
are
being
done
in
person,
and
so
then
my
question
is:
if,
if
we
can
do
it
there
can
we
can
we
do
this
at
arts
west
too,
and-
and
I
hope
that
will
all
be
answered
soon,
once
director
moore
has
a
chance
to
to
outline
what
she,
what
what
will
be
the
future
of
arts
west.
H
Oh
sure,
yeah
absolutely,
and
I
I
personally
don't
see
it
necessarily
as
phased,
because
we
do
have
the
southeast
ohio,
music
lending
library
there.
But
you
know
that
too
poses
its
own
challenges
under
a
virus
that
we
still
don't
completely
understand,
behaviorally
how
this
virus
is
behaving.
We
all
used
to
think
that
it
was
droplets
at
first
and
now.
We
know
that
it
is
airborne
as
well.
So
it's
just
that's
forever
changing.
H
But
again
we
when
director
moore
is
is
back.
This
is
I've
already
instructed
her
that
to
her
that
this
is
the
top
of
the
list.
This
is
the
top
of
the
list
to
get
things
going
again.
I
Any
other
comments
on
the
arts
west
update
I'll
just
say
that
I
appreciate
the
conversation
and
the
information
from
the
mayor.
I
also
appreciate
the
mayor's
office
thinking
creatively
about
use
of
some
of
the
funds
available
from
kovid.
The
public
should
know
that
it's
quite
a
challenge
to
not
only
meet
the
deadlines
that
are
been
put
in
place
by
the
state
and
the
federal
government,
but
also
the
restrictions
as
to
how
you
can
use
some
of
those
funding.
I
So
I
appreciate
the
mayor's
office
looking
creatively
and-
and
you
know,
support
the
use
of
those
funds
for
for
broadband
and
arts
most,
but
I
realize
that's
a
later
conversation
and
that
I
look
forward
to
hearing
directly
from
director
moore
and
having
a
a
good
conversation
with
her
in
two
weeks,
and
I
hope
the
community
comes
back
to
engage
in
that
conversation.
I
The
community
should
also
know
that
the
communications
that
are
sent
directly
to
the
mayor's
office
or
the
city
council
are
sent
to
all
of
us
and-
and
I
read
every
one
of
them
and
and
respond
to
the
vast
majority
of
them,
and
I
really
appreciate
hearing
from
the
community.
So
please
continue
to
do
so
and
that
will
close
finance
and
personnel.
Thank
you
president
nicely
thank.