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B
Unmuted
Thank
You
president
nicely
yeah
I'll,
be
brief.
A
conversation
that's
been
going
on
for
quite
some
time
when
I
say
that,
for
roughly
two
weeks
is,
is
the
off-campus
student
move
out
which
most
leases
in
the
city
of
Athens
run
anywhere.
You
know
in
between
May
1
to
May
10th,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer,
depending
on
the
contract
that
was
agreed
upon
with
the
landlord
and
their
tenants.
B
The
the
concern
that
I
have
is
the
number
of
students
who
will
be
moving
out
during
that
time
frame,
which
will
also
be
in
a
period
where
the
we
could
be
near
or
at
or
slightly
beyond
the
peak
of
Kovan
19.
Again
the
models
keep
changing
from
time
to
time.
I
have
been
in
communication,
with
my
contacts
to
reach
out
to
the
governor's
office,
as
well
as
the
director
for
the
Ohio
Department
of
Health
Amy
Acton,
but
also
with
president
Nellis
here
in
the
city
of
Athens.
B
I've
also
been
talking
with
my
counterparts
across
the
state,
the
city
manager
of
Oxford,
the
city
manager
or
the
mayor
of
Bowling
Green,
as
well
as
the
mayor
of
Kent,
to
see
together
in
the
Intel
that
I
could
is
to
planning
that
has
taken
place.
Interestingly,
they
hadn't
been
planning,
or
just
it
wasn't
something
that
had
occurred
to
them.
It
certainly
had
been
something
heavy
on
my
mind,
so
I'm
hoping
that
that
said,
and
during
that
timeframe,
between
basically
the
last
couple
days
in
April
through
May
10th.
B
Something
I
would
certainly
encourage
people
who
are
viewing
certainly
encourage
our
citizens,
everyone
in
our
community,
and
that
would
be
to
make
sure
that
you
have
all
the
food
stocks
and
other
necessities
that
you
might
need
in
the
early
in
the
last
week
in
April,
and
strongly
encourage
people
to.
Even
though
we've
been
doing
a
good
job
of
staying
in
place.
B
C
You
president
Isley
in
the
fall
of
the
early
fall
of
2019,
the
city
administration
convened
a
refuse
and
recycling
task
force
in
order
to
adequately
prepare
for
the
bidding
process
and
what
we
will
hear
in
a
few
minutes
from
from
mr.
Riggs
that
taskforce
and
included
Kathleen
Sullivan,
who
was
an
invaluable
member
as
well
as
Andrew,
Ladd
and
initially
rotten
Lucas.
Until
he
moved
over
to
direct
the
human
resources
department
and
mr.
C
Riggs
took
over,
and
we
continued
to
meet
in
the
spring
to
talk
about
the
bid
process
and
eventually
had
a
what
I
felt
was
a
successful
bid
process.
And
we
are
now
at
the
point
of
being
able
to
make
recommendations
or
the
city
administration
to
make
recommendations
to
Council
about
our
way
forward.
As
many
of
you
may
have
remembered,
we
were
asked
to
explore
adding
composting
to
the
city
services.
C
We
felt
that
as
our
community
went
forward
and
as
we
identified
the
values
of
our
community
and
listened
to
many
constituents
who
had
participated
in
the
pilot
program,
some
of
whom
had
decided
at
a
rather
high
monthly
rate,
to
stay
with
the
composting
program
and
the
we
felt
that
adding
that
third
stream
with
refuse
and
recycling
to
the
city
services
is
going
to
make
our
city
stronger
and
certainly
will
adhere
to
the
sustainability
plan
that
the
city
has
committed
to.
So
we
have
mr.
C
D
D
So
what
we
have
I
think
everybody
has
it.
She
has
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
this
presentation
that
the
information
that
I
sent
there's
a
lot
of
numbers
here.
So
I
thought.
Maybe
we
could
go
through
it
this
evening
and
talk
about
talk
about
the
whole,
the
whole
setup
and
then
maybe
could
provide
us
with
some
staff
with
some
direction
on
which
way
counsel
would
like
to
go.
So
we
opened
bids
the
early
part
of
March
for
solid
waste.
D
We
also
had
an
increase
in
July
of
nineteen
that
that
caused
us
to
have
the
the
fees
that
were
that
we
collect
from
the
solid
waste
fund.
Don't
support
the
new
costs
we
have
with
with
revised
contract
that
we
will
come
up
in
July
of
2020.
So
if,
in
order
to
make
the
solid
waste
funds
self-supporting,
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
increasing
some
of
the
current
fees
that
we
have
for
solid
waste
and
so.
D
The
760,
the
solid
waste
fund,
actually
gets
revenue
from
multiple
sources.
We
get
primarily
from
residential,
solid
waste
and
recycling
fees
and
for
mixed-use,
commercial
and
dumpster
fees,
but
we
all
we'll
have
some
very
variable
fees
that
we
get
money
back
from
the
extra
bags
and
special
halls
that
the
residency
use.
We
also
have
a
solid
waste
fee
and
we
get
some
revenue
back
from
trash
tickets.
D
What
I
did
was
we?
We
will
look.
The
staff
looked
at
a
three-year
period
to
try
to
find
out
where
we,
where
we
were
with
our
with
our
revenue
and
we
what
we've
and
the
current
rates
for
that
we
were
using
for
a
residence
so
currently
the
the
residents
that
use
one
container,
which
is
about
a
thirty
five
gallon
container
or
charged
$10.
That
includes
both
solid
waste
and
recycling
for
one
container
for
two
containers
that
jumps
up
to
$15.50
three
containers
to
1650,
as
you
can
see,
and
on
up
this
actually
helps
us.
D
We
want
residents
to
use
less
to
provide
less
solid
waste,
so
we're
trying
to
give
our
residents
a
discount
or
pay
less
if
you're,
if
you
produce
less
solid
waste,
if
you
produce
more
solid
waste,
then
you're
going
to
be
charged
a
little
bit
more.
So
that
is
the
the
current
rates
and
then
there
we
have
300
accounts
that
people
are
using
for
composting.
That
was,
that
trial
composting
program
and
it
netted
a
revenue
of
sixth
just
a
little
over
six
thousand
dollars.
D
We
also
have
commercial
revenue
accounts
and
we
actually
there's
there's
a
whole
lot
of
these.
There
are.
There
are
14
commercial
rate
codes
that
76
accounts
use.
There
are
69
different
types
of
dumpster
rate
codes
with
86
different
accounts,
27
mixed
use
rate
codes,
and
this
would
be
like
for
apartments
and
that
kind
of
a
stuff
where
you
have
a
little
bit
of
commercial.
A
little
bit
of
residential,
combined
and
they're
340
counts,
as
all
we
did
was
it
kind
of
averaged
out
what
those,
rather
than
try
to
give
you
each
one
of
those
details.
D
We
averaged
out
between
2016
and
2018
three-year
average
of
what
the
income
was
coming
in
to
the
utilities
billing,
and
it
turns
out
to
be
just
a
little
little
over
half
a
million
five
hundred.
Thirteen
thousand
is
the
is
the
amount
of
income
that
we
get
from,
that
there's
also
variable
costs
or
variable
extra
bags,
and
again
we
average
this
out
over
2016
to
2018
three
year
period,
we
average
about
fifty
five
hundred
extra
bags
that
we
we
charge
a
residence
for
and
forty
two
hundred
cubic
yards
on
average
per
year
of
special
halls.
D
This
is
mattresses
and
you
know
heavy
big,
couches
and
chairs
and
other
types
of
furniture.
So
this
is
a
total
of
the
variable
revenue
that
we
get
seventy
one
thousand
and
then
other
revenue
as
I
said,
the
solid
waste
fees
we
have
just
a
little
over
a
hundred
thousand
and
our
trash
tickets,
although
they've
been
going
down
from
year
to
year,
still
run
about
eighty
two
thousand,
so
total
other
revenue,
one
hundred
eighty
three
thousand
five
hundred
seventy
eight
and
so
combining
all
those
together.
D
We
have
residential
revenue,
commercial
revenue,
variable
revenue
and
then
the
other
revenue,
which
was
the
solid
waste
fees
and
the
trash
tickets.
The
total
income
coming
into
our
760
account
is
one
million
three
hundred
eighty
seven
thousand
eight
hundred-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
an
average.
It
changes
a
little
bit
from
from
year
to
year.
So
that's
what
we
that's,
what
we
are
generating
and
revenue
for
this
account,
and
then
we
wanted
to
start
talking
about
the
the
solid
waste
contract
cost.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
up
to
this
point?
D
A
lot
of
numbers
you,
okay,
so
so
this
would
be
the
new
2020
bid
for
solid
waste,
and
we
have.
This
is
Athens
Hawking
recycling,
their
cost
for
solid
waste
and
recycling
has
jump,
has
bumped
up
to
1
million
five
hundred
forty
three
thousand
six
hundred
ninety
two
dollars
the
the
two
lines
underneath
are
their
estimates,
but
we
end
up
with
a
total
cost
or
fee
of
1
million
six
hundred,
sixteen
thousand
four
for
this
new
contract.
D
In
addition,
the
other
money
that
comes
out
of
the
solid
waste
fund,
we
have
some
salaries,
the
the
utility
utilities
billing
their
salaries
come
from.
This
I
think
the
deputy
safety
service
director,
some
of
his
salary
comes
out
of
this
and
a
couple
other
places
all
my
my
solid
waste
officers
there,
their
salaries
come
out
of
here.
Supplies
would
be
tickets,
you
know
incidentals
for
the
office
and
then
equipment.
D
We
have
about
I.
Think
it's
about
fifty
thousand
a
year
for
big
bellies
that
we're
still
gonna
have
to
spend
forty
five
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
for
the
big
bellies
and
I
also
included
in
here
an
option
for
residential,
solid
waste
containers.
So
that's
different.
We
this
this
would,
you
know,
unify
all
of
the
solid
waste
containers
rather
than
people
have
in
their
own
individual,
solid
waste
containers
Rumpke
would
supply
those
and
would
maintain
those,
so
that's
included
in
here.
D
So
the
total
costs
would
be
this,
which
is
the
contract
costs,
plus
the
other
fees
costs
associated
with
that.
So
taking
that
information
together,
you've
got
your
total
revenue
for
the
fund.
Your
total
costs
for
the
fund
we're
ending
up.
We
think
with
a
shortfall
of
about
$600,000,
and
so
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
try
to
balance
that
make
it
more
net
neutral
and
so
I've
got
a
couple
of
options
that
I
wanted
to
wanted
to
send
by
you
guys
to
give
me
your
opinion
on
option
number
one.
D
It
would
be
a
break-even
balance,
so
this
would
be
trying
to
get
the
fun
down
to
zero
at
the
end
of
every
year
or
close
to
it
and
broke
that
up
into
because
we
have
an
option
for
composting
with
and
without
composting.
Then
option
number
two
would
be:
let's
just
try
to
go
five
percent
above
our
breakeven
with
them
without
composting
and
an
option
three
would
be
to
fund
the
have.
This
fund
produce
ten
percent
above
the
break-even
with
and
without
composting.
So
let's
go
through
those
numbers,
real
quick.
D
If
we
tried
to
so
what
I
try
to
do
is
come
up
with
a
with
a
proposed
rates
for
for
a
break-even
fund
and,
as
you
can
see
these,
the
new
numbers
are
you
can
round
those
up
or
down.
So
you
could
make
this
1275
or
$13,
but
I
was
just
trying
to
get
it
to
get
too
close
to
a
net
zero,
and
so
by
doing
it,
by
doing
this
option
number
one
breakeven.
We
would
have
an
increase
of
two
dollars
and
69
cents
for
one
container,
the
majority
of
the
counts
of
our
two
containers.
D
As
you
can
see,
we've
got
twenty
three
hundred
and
sixty
two
accounts
that
look.
That
rate
would
jump
up
from
fifteen
fifty
to
twenty
three
forty
four
for
an
increase
of
seven
dollars
and
ninety-four
cents,
and
you
can
see
as
we
go
up.
Those
increases
go
up
as
well
and
because
we
have
so
many
commercial
codes,
we're
going
to
just
increase
those
by
56
percent
rather
than
rather
than
try
to
give
you
each
individual
one
we're
just
going
to
average
those
over
over
the
increase
to
fit
56%.
D
We
also
want
to
increase
the
extra
bags
the
charge
for
extra
bags
from
$3,
which
is
what
it
currently
is
to
$5,
and
the
special
halls
would
go
to
$12
$12,
a
cubic
yard
to
$50
or
$15
in
cubic
yard.
So
if
we
did
these
increases,
we
would
end
up
with
almost
a
net
zero
I
got
I
got
plus
five
hundred
and
eleven
dollars
here
and
again.
These
are
estimates,
so
it
could
vary
from
year
to
year,
depending
on
how
many
extra
bags
we
get.
D
How
many
trash
tickets
are
our
done,
and
you
know
some
other
stuff,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
variable
cost
but
I'm
trying
to
get
it
to
get
it
to
close
to
a
break-even.
So
in
order
to
get
to
break-even,
we
would
have
to
have
these
increases
in
our
existing
residential
rates
and
a
56%
increase
in
all
of
our
commercial
rates
in
order
to
get
to
a
net
near
zero
balance
for
our
for
a
fund
without
composting.
D
If
you
wanted
to
do
composting,
we
included
this
as
an
option
and
we
assumed
that
we'd
have
about
1,500
accounts
that
would
actually
use
the
would
would
use
the
service,
and
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
we
wanted
to
break
out
that
total
cost
across
all
the
residential
accounts?
All
these
3,500
accounts.
If
you
do
that
this
one
hundred
and
one
hundred
and
thirty
nine
thousand
dollars
averages
out
to
be
about
three
dollars
and
twenty-nine
cents
per.
D
D
I
will
say
this
right
here
that
you
know
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
other
communities
that
provide
solid
waste
and
recycling
they're
going
to
be
in
this
range
in
the
28
to
$25
a
month
range.
So
it's
not
something
that
other
communities
are
it's
not
outside
what
other
communities
are
charging
their
residents.
D
D
You'd
go
from
four
one
container
from
$10
a
month
to
1347,
which
is
$3,
47
percent
$3
47
cent
increase,
two
containers
will
jump
up
to
increased
by
9
dollars
and
36
cents,
and
all
the
commercial
rates
would
increase
by
66
percent
extra
bags
again
going
from
$3
to
$5
special
hauls
from
$12
a
yard
to
$15
er.
This
would
give
us
a
gain
in
the
account
on
average
of
just
a
little
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
one
hundred
four
thousand
eight
hundred
ninety
one,
which
is
about
a
five
percent
increase
every
year.
D
This
would
account
for
the
cost
of
you,
know,
cost-of-living
increases
or
any
increases
in
and
costs
us
as
they
go
up
through
throughout
the
throughout
the
years.
This
is
a
this
is
going
to
be
a
three
year
contract
for
Athens
talking
with
options
to
renew
afterwards,
so
this
would.
This
would
make
us
solvent
for
the
next,
at
least
for
the
next
three
years,
so
that's
option
without
composting.
D
If
we
wanted
to
do
composting
at
5%
about
break-even,
you
can
see
these
increases
here
and
then
I
also
did
a
another
option,
which
is
a
10%
above
breakeven,
which
would
change
our
rates
to,
for
instance,
a
one
container
would
go
from
ten
dollars
to
four
dollars
and
seventeen
cents
increase.
The
extra
bags
would
go
from
three
to
five
dollars.
Special
hauls
for
twelve
to
fifteen
and
commercial
rates
would
increase
right
would
need
to
increase
by
seventy
four
percent
to
match
what
we're
doing
over
here.
D
So
that
would
give
us
a
ten
percent
increase
would
be
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
annual
gain
in
the
fund
and
then
with
composting.
Your
rates
would
go
from.
Four
one
container
will
go
from
$10
to
seventeen.
Forty
six
two
containers
would
go
from
fifteen
fifty
to
twenty
nine
forty,
five
thirteen
other
ninety
five
cent
increase
and
on
as
you
see
so
those
are
our
three
options
that
I
can
I
can
give
you
lots
of
more
options.
If
you
want,
we
can
do
this
without
you
know,
without
having
the
dollars
and
cents
here
we
can.
D
We
can
average
this
out.
We
also
have
some
suggestions.
Maybe
if
you
could
look
at
because
these
rates
are
going
to
are
going
to
increase,
we
may
want
to
recommend
a
discount
to
senior
citizens
aged
65
or
older.
This
could
actually
be
managed
to
the
utility
billing
office
and
could
help
out
some
of
the
people
that
are
on
fixed
income.
We
also
would
recommend
we
franchise
areas.
D
Working
are
working
really
well,
but
if
we
had
some
additional
incentives
to
put
more
containers
in
the
downtown
area,
I
think
that
would
even
help
even
more,
and
so
we
would
I
would
ask
that.
Maybe
you
consider
a
20%
discount
for
owners
that
allow
central
sites
in
the
downtown
area,
and
then
we
would
take
responsibility
to
repair
those
private
areas
that
are
damaged
by
the
refuge
trucks
using
private
property.
You
probably
wouldn't
account
for
very
much,
but
at
least
we
could
offer
to
to
do
that.
D
We
could
actually
do
a
lot
of
that
in-house
with
our
with
our
Public
Works
staff,
and
then
another
recommendation
would
be
that
that
the
change
increases
includes
a
annual
2%
increase
in
order
to
keep
up
with
the
cost
of
living
increases.
So
that's
the
information
that
I
have
I'm
bailable.
If
you
have
any
questions.
C
C
That
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
composting
pilot
and
and
talking
about
what
it
might
cost
to
add
composting
services
across
the
city
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
introduction,
a
number
of
residents,
approximately
a
hundred
residents
are
continuing
their
composting
services
today,
at
the
rate
of
I,
believe
a
little
under
$20
a
month.
As
we
see
these
Cerie
rates
across
the
board,
refuse
recycling
increasing
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
understands
that
if
we
do
add
composting
to
our
city
services,
these
increases
are
not
just
because
of
the
composting.
The
increases
are.
C
Nitin
vary
because
of
costs
that
have
gone
up
across
the
board.
We
know
many
of
us
know
what
has
happened
to
the
recycling
industry
and
Debbie
Walker
helped
me
look
at
some
of
our
past
rates.
We
haven't
increased
our
rates
since
2010,
so
it
has
been
a
decade
since
we've
had
any
rate
increases,
I
think
that
the
city
of
Athens,
being
the
first
city
and
to
have
curbside
recycling
that
we
can
continue
to
be
a
leader
in
Ohio
and
an
offer
composting
services.
This
is
my
personal
recommendation.
C
That
is,
our
goal
is
to
have
more
recycling
and
more
food
waste
collection
and
less
solid
waste
for
the
landfill.
The
last
point
I'll
make
is
that
I
understand
just
like
recycling
30
years
ago
was
a
relatively
new
thing
and
people
weren't
quite
sure.
Why
would
we
would
do
it
composting?
A
lot
of
people
don't
understand
either
that
it's
not
just
sort
of
keeping
the
the
odorous
material
out
of
your
trashcan.
C
It
is
that
organic
material
in
the
landfills
that,
in
the
absence
of
oxygen,
encourages
methane,
producing
bacteria
to
thrive,
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
greenhouse
gases
are
produced
in
our
landfills
that
do
have
organic
matter
in
them
and
that
that
is
you
know,
the
food
waste
still
has
value,
and
we
can
we
can.
We
can
extract
that
value
if
we,
if
we
are
able
to
separate
it,
and
we
have
a
good
service
through
our
provider.
F
A
couple
things
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
It
was
very
well
organized
easy
to
follow
and
I
learned
a
lot
so
I
appreciate
that
the
proposals
that
have
us
bringing
in
and
some
surplus
what
sort
of
things
would
be
be
spending
that
those
surplus
dollars
on
and
remember
Crowell
mentioned
the
possibility
of
using
some
of
that
deserves
some
households,
and
so
that
partially
answers
that
question.
F
C
David,
do
you
want
to
take
that
on
I?
Just
answer
members
medley
that
and
the
mayor
and
mr.
Eisner
and
and
and
president
Isley
can
speak
to
this-
perhaps
is
that,
for
example,
there
are
very
large
blue
recycling.
Containers
came
out
of
I
believe
mayor.
If
this
is
correct,
the
the
funds
that
were
in
760
that
were
sort
of
not
extra,
but
were
there
because
they
were
collected,
and
we
can
so
I-
think
things
like
that
can
be
used
for
those
funds.
D
So
whenever
you
try
to
get
a
fund
to
zero
balance,
you
can
sometimes
end
up
in
the
red
and
sometimes
end
up
in
the
black.
So
if
you
really
try
to
try
to
stay
on
that
razor's
edge,
there
could
be
times
for
you
to
have
to
supplement
the
solid
waste.
That's
the
760
fund
from
the
general
fund
from
your
from
your
regular
taxes,
and
that
means
you're
going
to
be
pulling
income
away
from
some
other
essential
services
that
the
city
provides.
So
it's
nice
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer.
D
So
you
don't
need
to
worry
about
doing
that.
Secondly,
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
have
a
small
buffer
and
then
we're
not
talking
about
a
very
large
amount
here
at
a
5%
above
breakeven
I,
think
we
were
going
to
be
just
over
on
average
just
over
$100,000
in
black.
But
if,
if
as
we've
seen
the
trash,
for
instance,
our
trash
tickets,
we
want
to.
We
want
the
citizens
to
do
a
good
job
with
their
trash
collection,
and
we
would
want
to
be
able
to
write
less
tickets.
D
D
As
councilmember
corral
indicated,
we
we
did
have
an
opportunity
to
come
up
with
some
of
those
blue
containers,
because
we
had
some
funds
in
the
black
and
this
fund
and
you'd
be
able
to
do
that
with
with.
If
you
had
any
of
the
extra
fund
available
in
there
and
again
these
numbers
are
fairly
small.
You
know
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
sounds
like
a
lot,
but
as
far
as
the
financial
budget
for
a
community,
it's
it's
not
a
real
large
amount.
G
Yes,
so
in
general,
I
think
that
these
increases
sound
fairly
reasonable
because
we
haven't
increased
the
prices
in
ten
years
and
I'm
really
happy
that
we
will
be
supporting
the
Athen
talking
recycling
center
and
I'm
I
agree
with
Sam,
with
member
crowd
that
it's
wonderful
to
to
expand
the
curbside
composting
program,
all
over
town
for
anyone
who
wants
to
do
that
I'm
one
of
the
few
people
who
are
still
doing
that
because
I
think
it's
really
great
to
help
the
environment.
But
yes,
thank
you.
G
G
G
If
we,
if
we
raise
these
fees
so
much,
and
then
we
say
oh
by
the
way,
you're
going
to
have
to
get
a
different
trashcan
that
may
just
annoy
a
lot
of
people.
I
know
and
I
say
that,
because
I
remember
when
we
all
had
to
get
the
same
recycling
bins,
and
so
many
of
my
friends
just
just
went
off
about
that.
I
couldn't
believe
how
annoyed
people
were
really
calm.
Measured
people
just
just
got
very,
very
angry
and
I
know.
G
I
personally,
I
have
a
very
narrow,
1950s
garage
with
just
room
for
my
car
and
room
to
squeeze
by
sideways
I
had
to
rearrange
my
whole
garage
to
fit
that
in
there
I
don't
have
room
for
two
of
those
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
talking
about
a
similar
bin.
But
if
we
I
guess
I
would
be
suggesting
for
your
consideration
that
we
at
least
make
the
idea
of
getting
a
new
bin
optional
and
not
force
people
to
do
it,
because
that
might
take
some
people's
annoyance
from
the
increase
to
actual
anger.
G
D
Yeah
I
can
absolutely
do
that
if
you
guys
would
like
to
see
these
numbers
again
with
without
the
containers,
if
they
would,
it
would
save
a
little
bit
of
money
and
that's
it's
entirely.
It's
an
option.
It's
entirely
up
to
you
to
you
all
to
try
to
make
a
decision
on
what
you
want
to
do.
So
let
me
give
you
some
revised
numbers
on
on
that
without
the
containers
and
I
can
get
that
to
you
fairly
shortly.
C
C
And
we
don't
have
a
contract,
so
we
know
that
the
costs
are
already
going
up.
They're
gonna
have
to
be
raised
in
order
for
those
services,
which
is
an
important
public
health
service
as
well,
but
I
appreciate
your
thinking
about
how
maybe
not
to
include
all
the
costs
with
maybe
the
extra
bins.
That's
an
excellent
point.
I
think
president
Isley
had
her
hand
up
nicely
just.
A
To
make
a
comment
from
having
watched
Council
for
years
and,
yes
I
do
remember
people
being
upset
by
the
blue
bins,
but
but
in
regards
to
standard
trashcan
sizes,
there
has
consistently
been
a
comment
you
know.
I
may
put
out,
you
know
in
one
size
been,
you
know
a
30
gallon
trash
bin,
but
then
there
are
others
who
are
using
much
larger
bins
and
that
just
to
make
it
equitable
for
everybody,
I
think
has
been
the
argument
and
mr.
Riggs,
if
I'm,
remembering
correctly
as
the
grand
total
cost
$25,000
for
the
standardized
bins,
yeah.
D
A
H
It
is
there
in
any
wiggle
room
any
way
that
we
could
just
implement
the
fees
a
bit
later,
anticipating
that
5%
cushion
basically
being
used
up
immediately
like
for
the
first
half
year
or
something
by
implementing
with
the
fees
a
bit
later,
just
to
give
people
time
to
hopefully
get
back
on
their
feet,
hopefully
get
our
students
back
to
town
and
businesses
back
to
normal
operations.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
wiggle
room
with
that.
H
But
I
would
also
like
to
support
members
medleys
comment
about
considering
a
discount
for
individuals
who
are
maybe
on
a
disability
as
their
only
source
of
income
and
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
that
would
be
evaluated,
but
that
option
and
then,
as
far
as
the
universal
containers,
I
I,
think
that's
a
really
good
thing.
If
they're
good
quality
heavy-duty
with
attached
lids,
because
for
a
lot
of
rental
property
areas
getting
really
good
quality
containers
at
a
rental
unit,
it
is
a
significant
cost
and
the
lids
always
disappear.
Are
they
getting
run
over?
H
Oh
and
and
so
you
in
in
being
a
significant
problem
in
closed
in
communities
with
a
lot
of
containers
and
so
I
think,
even
though
there
is
an
adjustment
period
and
I
understand,
member
clogged
filters
comments
and
I
I
have
neighbors
who
who
have
retained
their
orange
containers
and
I,
think
we
could
sort
of
do
that
on
an
individual
basis
like
if
someone
just
doesn't
have
a
room
in
their
garage
and
doesn't
need
the
larger
universal
container.
Maybe
a
few
people
would
keep
their
current
container
but
I
think
having
a
universal
container.
That's
it's.
H
B
B
B
You
know
possibly
possibly
I
mean
we'll
look
to
see
what
we
have
good
to
see
how
far
we
can
stretch
that
I'm
hearing
everything
that's
being
said
and
I
agree
that
if
there
is
a
way
that
we
can
kind
of
get
ourselves
through,
you
know
the
next
four
or
five
six
months
and
then
go
into
the
higher
percentage.
I
would
also
like
to
add
really
quick-
and
this
has
been
touched
on
and
I
really
appreciate.
This
being
mentioned
is
the
fact
that
the
rates
haven't
changed
since
2010.
B
You
know
at
a
bare
minimum
I
believe
there
should
have
been
a
2%
cost-of-living
increase
every
year
across
them,
because
if
you
do
that
math
and
look
to
see,
we
would
be
there
already
in
terms
of
this
particular
rate.
Increase
I.
Think
that
that
is
important,
as
you
guys
are
having
this
conversation,
that
we
look
at
something
that
that
at
least
matches
cost-of-living
increases.
D
I
could
just
thank
you
if
I
could
just
add
that
I
absolutely
get
that
this
is
a
bad
time
to
be
doing
this
and
I
had
some
conversations
with
Athens
talking
recycling
about
maybe
not
doing
the
containers
this
year,
maybe
doing
them
a
year
later
or
something
so
that
remains
an
option
for
us
as
well.
If
we
think
this
is
just
a
bad
time
to
be,
containers
are
important.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
we
don't
want
to
do
it
right
now.
We
can
do
that
in
year,
two
or
year,
three
of
the
contract.
E
You
I
like
that
the
pricing
structure
is
slanted
towards
people
who
use
less
containers,
I
think
that's
a
very
important
thing
to
retain
in
this
process.
We
do
have
a
like
a
an
ordinance
that
updated
other
language
in
our
code
about
having
lids
on
garbage
cans,
because
that
is
a
really
big
health
problem.
E
E
C
C
F
You
I
just
wanted
to
a
second
what
was
suggested
earlier,
a
member
grace
of
seeing,
if
there's
a
possibility
of
postponing
the
increase
and
I
appreciate
the
bear
chiming
in
on
being
open
to
exploring
that
as
an
option,
because
yeah
I
understand
if
we
had
considered
the
cost
of
living
increased
ten
years
ago,
we
would
be
where
we're
trying
to
get
now,
but
we
also
you
know
facing
a
really
unique
time
and
there's
a
way
that
we
can
help
people
out.
That
would
be.
J
Yeah,
my
question
is
a
little
different
going
back
to
the
very
beginning.
How
does
Athens
Hawking
recycling
justify
their
their
increased
like
this,
maybe
I'm
a
little
confused,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
a
major
part
of
their
cost
would
be
the
the
tipping
fee
and
the
tipping
fee
is
I
believe
based
upon
the
the
cubic
yard,
each
of
trisys
being
put
in
the
landfill.
J
J
B
You
want
to
take
that
one.
Well,
no
I'm,
not
gonna.
Take
it
I'm
going
to
defer
to
David
on
this,
but
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
would
be
for
David
to
explain
with
the
two
bids
that
did
come
forward.
The
difference
between
those
two
in
terms
of
the
the
amount
of
the
bid
David
sure.
D
D
What
we've
seen
over
the
last
year
or
two
is
that
the
value
of
the
material,
the
recycling
material,
is
it's
not
paying
for
itself
anymore.
So
we
we
have
seen
historically
where
we
were
getting
and
we
were
getting
some
benefit
from
the
funds
for
recycling.
We're
not
seeing
that
anymore,
so
we're
having
to
pay
for
the
solid
waste
tipping
fees,
as
you
said,
plus
there's
really
not
much
in
the
way
of
income.
D
D
J
Well,
are
we
I'm
sorry
I
belabor
this
point,
but
in
terms
of
the
tipping
fee,
the
the
landfill
is
charging
a
tipping
fee.
Correct
I,
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
it's
a
fixed
amount.
Yes,
is
that
fixed
amount
set
in
the
contract
or
is
no?
No
yes
stuff
doesn't?
Are
they
taking
the
the
tipping
fee
and
then
saying
okay
I'm,
going
to
take
the
tipping
fee
as
a
basis
now
I'm
going
to
add
an
extra
ten
twenty?
Thirty
percent
to
that?
Is
that
what's
happening.
D
That
would
be
a
great
question
for
the
contractor.
I
think
what
they're,
what
the
contractor
is
trying
to
do.
There
are
not-for-profit
company,
so
they're
not
trying
to
make
killing
on
this
they're
trying
to
break
even
with
a
with
the
you
know
and
pay
their
guys.
A
reasonable
amount
of
money-
and
you
know
still
continue
to
do
their
recycling
and
solid
waste,
so
I
think
what's
going
on.
G
G
I
called
the
executive
director
of
the
Athens
Hocking
recycling
center,
who
I
know
because
I'm
a
I
will
say
I'm
a
former
board
member
of
that,
and
he
said
in
addition
to
the
just
a
tremendous
impact
of
the
bottoming
out
practically
of
the
recycling
prices,
which
means
that
market
hasn't
recovered,
they're,
just
they're,
really
not
getting
much
money
at
all
from
the
recycled
materials,
and
that
really
does
change
the
dynamics.
But
there
are
two
things:
two
specific
things
going
on
that
are
affecting
the
cost
right
now.
G
One
is,
and
they're
kind
of
this
is
getting
in
the
weeds
a
little
bit.
But
to
answer
your
question,
one
is
that
the
bonding
agent
that
owns
the
Athens
talking
recycling
center
is
insisting
that,
rather
than
paying
their
bond
year
by
year,
they
have
to
pay
it
all
upfront
and
so
and
they've
raised
it.
And
so
that's
a
factor
for
year.
One
is
there.
They're
gonna
have
this
much
larger
payment
to
a
third
party
that
has
to
be
paid
in
order
for
them
to
accept
and
complete
the
contract.
G
And
yes,
apparently,
the
contract,
the
contract,
language
mandates
that
they
run
a
single
axle
truck
uptown,
and
that
means
that
they're
going
to
have
to
send
an
additional
truck
and
an
additional
crew
to
take
care
of
the
Uptown,
and
that
is
going
to
have
a
number
of
associated
costs
on
a
daily
that
right.
There
raises
the
costs.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
much,
but
it's
a
significant
amount
of
money
to
to
comply
with
that
requirement
of
the
contract,
and
that's
all
no
I
was
going
to.
D
C
We
did
look
at
the
sort
of
social
impact
of
the
wages
that
the
Sanitation
refuse
and
recycling
workers
were
making,
and
so
there
was
I
think
for
the
first
time,
director,
Riggs
I
know
at
least
$14
per
hour,
which
would
also
perhaps
mean
that
the
labor
that
we
mandated
that
the
labor
costs
go
up.
Yes,.
D
D
The
difference
between
Union
and
non-union
rates
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
both
both
of
the
bidders
on
what
they
thought
was.
A
reasonable
and
fair
rate
took
that
information
and
I
think
what
we
asked
for
was
a
minimum
of
$15
an
hour
that
all
their
solid
waste
collectors
would
be
paid,
and
that
is
in
that
in
the
contract,
and
that
is
new
this
year.
C
I
D
Correct
there's
no
increase.
We
ask
them
to
maintain
that
at
a
continuous
annual
cost
for
three
years
we
did
look
at
maybe
having
a
base
cost
and
then
an
increase,
as
the
Mayor
was
talking
about
you
know
like
just
like
we'd,
have
an
increase
of
two
percent
as
a
cost
of
living
for
the
fees
we've
done
that
before
in
other
contracts,
where
you
have
an
extended
contract
date,
the
contract
length-
you
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
with
with
the
cost
of
fuel,
or
you
know
the
cost
of
living.
D
I
I
And
so
Jessie
Schmidt
sir
gets
to
join
us
this
evening.
I
saw
that
Jesse
did
loop,
everybody
in
on
council
about
this
conversation.
So
this
is
our
the
annual
ask
of
$7,500
to
to
help
in
a
partnership
to
pay
for
the
mobile
mobility
manager,
for
the
for
the
county
and
and
she
did
list
some
of
the
successes.
But
I
thought
it
would
be
even
better
for
for
Jesse
to
be
present
to
kind
of
talk
about
what
the
current
status
is
of
transportation.
I
K
K
Program,
so
the
big
one
everybody
knows
line
seven
was
a
huge
success.
We
were
able
to
not
only
get
that
running
with
local
funds
completely,
but
to
get
it
funded
completely
through
the
state
of
Ohio.
For
this
entire
year,
which
is
awesome
and
they're
really
excited
about
the
partnerships
we
were
able
to
get
together
to
collaborate
and
that
we
were
able
to
fund
it
completely
so
that
lens
still
going
strong.
K
We
were
able
to
do
that
and
then
last
year
another
big
success
was
you
know,
with
the
mobility
management
program,
I'm,
always
looking
for
new
ways
to
kind
of
take
the
funding
burdens
off
of
trying
to
figure
out
different
ways
that
you
can
fund
that.
So
one
big
project
that
we
completed
last
year
was
combining
Athens
public
transit
and
Athens
on-demand
transit
under
the
same
funding
source.
So
what
that
did
is
it's
really
a
more
stable
funding,
source,
5311
funds.
K
In
terms
of
right
now,
where
we
are
with
mobility
management,
the
importance
of
it,
as
you
know,
we're
all
going
through
this
really
unprecedented.
You
know
it's
the
same
thing,
just
we're
doing
it
at
a
completely
different
level.
There's
35
mobility
managers
now
in
the
state
of
Ohio
whorl
representing
different
counties,
the
big
first
thing
is
advocating.
We
just
got
done
advocating
massively
working
really
closely
with
to
make
sure
that
in
the
Care
Act
public
transportation
was
definitely
included
in
that
we
were
really
lucky
that
they
listened
they
did
advocate.
K
You
know
425
million
for
transit
across
the
across
the
country,
so
we're
all
kind
of
seeing
the
same
thing.
There's
a
huge
decline
in
ridership
there's
a
lot
of
contracts
that
are
on
hold,
meaning
that
local
funding
that
you
know
we
typically
get
to
fund
the
system,
isn't
really
there
right
now.
So
this
is
a
great
way
to.
You
know
make
sure
that
we
have
that
funding
there
when
this
kind
of
you
know,
hopefully
slowly,
you
know,
gets
better,
we'll
still
be
there.
K
K
That's
been
really
important
on
the
other.
Big
thing
right
now
is
collaborating
so
because
we're
under
a
sea
of
emergency
transportation
providers
can
use
these
vehicles
for
things
they
normally
a
really
great
collaboration.
That
I'm
working
with
right
now
is
with
Athens
on
demand,
transit,
United,
seniors
in
the
Athens
village,
we're
at
the
Athens
village
and
United
senior.
Have
you
know,
volunteers
go
to
grocery
stores,
get
food
for
seniors
drop
it
off
down
at
the
Athens
village
office
at
Easton
and
Athens
on
demand.
K
Transit
can
use
the
vehicles
to
pick
up
those
groceries
and
drops
them
off
directly
to
people's
homes
and
that's
completely
free
of
charge.
So
that's
a
really
great
collaboration
that
we're
doing
right
now,
so
we're
not
having
as
many
riders,
which
is
great,
because
we
don't
want
people
to
be
that
close
in
proximity.
If
they
don't
need
to
be,
but
we're
you
know
working
on
ways
to
use
the
vehicles.
K
And
other
things
we're
working
with
United
seniors
and
using
their
vehicles
to
take
people
out
of
County.
You
know
RSVPs
not
operating
right
now,
a
green
cab.
It's
not
really
operating
right
now,
but
people
still
need
to
get
up
so
we're
working
with
them
to
kind
of
keep
that
going.
So
has
it
right
now
the
public
transportation
is
so
operating.
Some
hours
have
been
cut
and
we're
only
allowing
a
certain
number
of
people
in
the
vehicles.
K
All
fairs
are
free
right
now
for
people,
so
we're
gonna
keep
trying
to
operate
as
long
as
we
can
as
long
as
we
feel
that
it's
safe
and
trying
to
make
sure
I
drivers
are
safe
and
for
a
mobility
management,
it's
really
important
for
us
to
try
to
keep
it
going,
especially
throughout
the
year.
So
this
is
my
ask
that
I
do
every
year.
I
know
I'm
coming
to
you
a
little
later
than
usual:
oh,
not
change
their
application
date
once
again,
I
never
know
what
day
it
is
because
they
change
it
every
year.
D
K
I
F
I
G
I
would
like
to
second
remember
Smedley
on
that
I
think
the
fact
that
you
made
the
fares
free
must
be
greatly
appreciated
by
a
lot
of
people
right
now.
I
love
the
safety
percussions
you've
taken
by
limiting
the
number
of
people
who
can
get
on
and
I
love
it
that
you're
so
passionate
about
keeping
it
going.
I
think
it's
gonna
take
advocates
like
you
to
make
sure
that
public
transportation
continues
to
get
funding
and-
and
congratulations
on
your
success
in
this
latest
bill.
That's
getting
25
billion
sounds
fantastic.
G
I
did
have
one
little
specific
or
two
little
specific
questions.
One
has
there
been
any
or
what
kind
of
feedback
have
you
gotten
about
the
fact
that
only
five
people
can
get
on
each
bus?
Do
you
ever
have
people
getting
stranded
and
having
to
wait
an
hour?
And
secondly,
I've
heard
that
in
New
York
City
they're
only
allowing
people
to
enter
their
public
buses
from
the
rear
door
to
keep
the
drivers
safer
and
I
wondered
if
that
had
been
considered
here,
yeah.
K
K
We
would
be
doing
that,
but
we're
not
operating
that
right
right
now,
some
portion
aliy
that's
not
an
option
with
the
smaller
buses,
so
we
would
be
doing
if
we
had
the
longer
buses
and
then
for
your
first
question
with
the
five
people
on
the
bus
there
has
been.
You
know
a
bit
of
feedback.
People
want
to.
K
You
know
want
to
hang
out
together,
so
we're
really
working
with
the
drivers.
You
know
to
kind
of
have
that
habit
ready
the
conversation
when
that
does
happen,
one
so
it
doesn't
escalate.
You
know
into
those
so
that
people
understand
that
this
is
for
their
own
safety,
as
well
as
the
drivers
safety
too.
So
it's
definitely
been
a
learning
curve
for
a
lot
of
people.
K
B
I
H
Our
engineering
and
Public
Works
they
are
in
the
process,
making
it
be
very
specific
plans
to
replace
a
water
booster
station
for
the
Kimes
reservoir
and
my
internet
just
said
it
was
unstable.
Can
everyone
still
hear
me
so?
Okay,
the
contractor
for
needs
a
new
booster
station,
and
if
we
can
put
the
new
booster
station
at
a
lower
elevation,
Robert
Hetty
has
has
said
that
it
could
improve,
pump
suction
pressure
and
allow
us
to
serve
more
areas
to
the
south
and
west.
H
So
as
long
as
we
need
to
replace
this
station,
it
seems
that
we
should
do
it
in
the
best
possible
location.
However,
in
order
to
evaluate
that,
we
need
to
do
some
soil,
borings
and
those
need
to
be
performed
on
land
that
is
owned
by
the
Kimes
convalescence
Center,
and
they
have
asked
that
we
sign
an
entry
agreement
in
order
to
do
those
borings.
H
The
entry
agreement
was
prepared
by
them
was
sent
to
our
law,
director
law,
director,
Elias
and
reviewed.
It
requested
a
few
changes
and
sent
it
back,
and
the
representative
from
Kimes
has
approved
and
signed
the
revised
entry
agreement,
and
our
engineering
department
has
requested
that
we
bring
this
up
to
approve
his
signature
on
this
and
at
next
council
meeting.
B
No
I
think
you
hit
everything.
As
you
mentioned,
we
did
get
the
signed,
a
signed
copy
of
that
that
agreement
from
Richard
Buckley
president
at
Kimes-
and
this
is
to
do
our
due
diligence
with
soil
borings
in
that
area.
To
put
this
we've
also
just
to
share
to
lower
this
and
have
greater
access
to
water
in
that
area
off
of
the
crime's
reservoir.
With
this
in
particular,
we
have
had
conversations
with
property
owners
in
that
area
as
well
that
that
were
interested
in
possibly
seeing
some
housing
development
more
to
come
on
that
in
the
future.
B
B
H
A
C
They
hoped
today
to
have
the
updated
costs,
since
the
Stimpson
roadway
design
is
final
and
they
were
going
to
try
to
have
other
project
costs
of
the
Stimpson
project
for
discussion
today.
I
don't
have
those
costs
or
any
information
on
that
discussion
personally,
so
if
director
heady
isn't
able
to
be
here
and
no
one
else
has
any
information
I'm
afraid
that's
all
we
can
do.
A
We
can
do
I
know.
I
know
that
I
did
convey
the
message
to
the
government
channel
that
he
was
to
be
invited,
so
he
was,
but
something
may
have
happened
and
that
with
this
afternoon
so
I'm
sure
we
can
get
that
update
in
writing
from
director
heady
and
then
we'll
get
that
to
all
the
council
members
immediately.
So
thank
you
and
that
ends
our
agenda
for
the
committee's
and
we'll
meet
next
week.
A
April
20
in
regular
session
and
I
would
comment
that
as
we
publish
these
agendas
and
make
them
available
to
the
public,
we
also
do
give
the
public
an
option
that
if
they
have
questions
or
comments,
we
do
have
there's
an
email
on
that.
It's
listed
on
that
agenda
and
it's
ask
questions
at
CI:
Athens
dot,
o
H
dot
us,
so
the
public
can
submit
questions
and
participate
in
that
way.
We
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
it's
good
to
see
you
all.
If
not
impersonally,
spiritually,
okay,
good
night.