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Athens City Council - August 9, 2021
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
athens
city
council,
it's
monday
night
august,
9
2021,
and
we
have
committee
meetings
followed
by
a
special
session
for
committee
of
the
whole
tonight.
We
have
three
items
to
consider,
the
first
of
which
is
face
coverings,
which
you
may
remember.
Last
july,
athens
city
council
passed
a
resolution
requiring
the
face
masks
and
that
has
since
been
varied.
Some
as
we've
come
through
the
pandemic.
A
B
B
Most
indoor
activities
pose
low
risk,
especially
in
areas
where
there
is
low
or
moderate
transmission
infections
happen
in
only
a
small
proportion
of
people
who
are
fully
vaccinated,
even
with
the
delta
variant
fully
vaccinated
people
who
become
infected
with
the
delta
variant
can
transmit
it
to
others
and
to
reduce
the
risk
of
becoming
infected
with
the
delta
variant
and
potentially
spreading
it
to
others.
The
cdc
recommends
that
fully
vaccinated
people
wear
a
mask
in
public
indoor
settings
if
they
are
in
an
area
of
substantial
or
high
transmission
and
on
our
next
slide.
B
B
Just
a
few
more
things
that
I
want
to
point
out
just
to
to
raise
the
public's
awareness
cases
are
exponentially
increasing
right
now
across
the
united
states
and
we're
now
averaging
more
than
a
hundred
thousand
new
cases
per
day.
You
can
see
at
the
we
had
really
really
high
peak
of
cases
last
winter
and
but
here
in
august,
we're
climbing
very
sharply
again
across
the
u.s.
B
Next,
I
want
to
remind
people
that
children
under
12
are
still
not
eligible
to
be
vaccinated
and
they
are
thus
vulnerable.
Child
hospitalizations
are
at
the
highest
point
that
they
have
been
during
this
whole
pandemic.
I
know
we're
tired.
B
We
feel,
like
we've,
been
doing
this
a
long
time,
but
hospitalizations
of
children
are
higher
now
than
they've
ever
been
and
they're
increasing
very
rapidly.
There
was
a
500
percent
increase
in
child
hospitalizations
in
the
month
of
july.
Now
they
are
still
lower
than
any
other
age
group.
Pediatric
admissions
are
lower,
but
they
are
climbing,
so
we
need
to
be
mindful,
and
finally,
I
just
want
to
highlight
absolutely
absolutely
vaccines
do
work
in
this
first
graph
on
this
page.
B
We
have
disease
incidents
and
we
have
the
the
incidence
of
covid
in
fully
vaccinated
is
the
blue.
The
incidence
in
unvaccinated
is
the
green,
so
we
have
an
eight-fold
reduction
in
incidents
in
vaccinated
individuals
compared
to
unvaccinated
hospitalization.
This
is
where
it
gets
really
really
really
impressive.
How
amazing
our
vaccines
are,
there's
a
25-fold
reduction
in
hospitalization
from
unvaccinated
to
vaccinated,
and
it
is
that
same
25-fold
reduction
in
death
incident.
B
So
please
please,
please
get
your
vaccine,
but
also,
I
think
we
need
to
pick
up
the
discussion
and
talk
about
returning
to
a
mask
requirement
in
indoor
public
settings,
for
everyone
vaccinated
or
not.
So
that
is
the
the
actual
topic
on
the
table
is
is
resuming
a
requirement
even
for
vaccinated
individuals.
A
Thank
you
councilmember
grace,
and
especially
for
the
up
to
date,
information
on
this.
We
also
have
a
letter
from
leanne
lucas
helber
who's.
A
C
Thank
you
president
nicely.
I
would
like
additional
information,
perhaps
from
member
grace
or
anyone.
I
believe
that
the
state
of
ohio
has
preempted
our
ability
to
return
to
a
requirement
in
the
city
of
athens.
Is
that
correct.
B
Member
crowl,
I
believe
that
that
state
preemption
only
applies
to
health
departments
at
the
state
department
of
health.
Ohio
department
of
health
cannot
issue
guidance
that
would
stay
in
place
and
independent
health
departments
cannot
issue
orders.
They
can
only
issue
advisories
on
that.
That
would
be
maintained,
but-
and
I
I
need
to
discuss
for
sure
with
our
law
director,
but
I
don't
believe
that
it
actually
limits
our
ability
to
put
a
mask
order
in
place.
B
So
if,
if
this
were
to
come
before
council
next
week,
I
would
certainly
have
a
complete
discussion
with
our
law
director
to
verify
that.
But
my
understanding
is
that
this
that
that
legislative
action
applies
to
health
departments.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
president
eisley.
I
just
wanted
to
first
thank
member
grace
for
that
excellent
information
and
excellent
presentation.
I
I
I
happen
to
work
in
a
very
public
setting
in
a
coffee
shop
in
town,
and
thus
I
get
to
interact
with
a
lot
of
people
and
I
speak
to
a
lot
of
people
and
it
it.
D
It
doesn't
happen
very
often,
but
it
is
very
frustrating
sometimes
to
hear
people's
reluctance
to
be
willing
to
wear
a
mask
again,
especially
now
that
we
have
had
these
couple
of
months
of
sort
of
blissful
unawareness
sort
of
of
being.
Oh,
we
don't
have
to
wear
a
mask,
we're
okay,
but
we're
realistically
getting
back
to
the
point
where
we
you
have
to
put
one
back
on.
It's
some
people
like
to
say:
oh,
you
don't
necessarily
know
that
the
mask
works
on
kovid,
but
that's
just
patently
false.
D
I
mean
it's
not
like
some
incredible
micro
thing
that
we've
never
experienced
before
it's
the
same
as
everything
else.
It's
a
disease
that
spreads
in
the
air
and
these
prevent
you
from
breathing
a
lot
of
it
in,
and
I
don't
mean
to
get
overly
impassioned
about
this.
But
it's
an
important
thing
and
I
cannot
stand
seeing
some
of
the
misinformation
getting
spread
around
with
people
saying
that
they
don't
work
or
that
they
somehow
make
it
worse.
It's
completely
absurd,
so
I
know
we
haven't
mandated
it
on
council.
D
E
Think,
president
knisley,
if
we're,
if
we
do
find
that
the
city
can
do
this
without
any
prevention
from
the
recent
law
that
we
just
talked
about
I'd,
be
in
support
of
this.
We
have
too
many
of
our
citizens.
They're
still
vulnerable.
As
you
mentioned,
and
appreciate
the
presentations
there
grace
okay.
F
I
just
concur
with
everything
that
everyone
has
said.
You
know
and
look
you
can
go
down
to
the
health
department
and
get
the
vaccine.
The
vaccine
is
available,
get
the
vaccine.
That's
probably
number
one
get
vaccinated.
F
Looking
at
the
numbers
that
council
member
grace
put
up
there,
you
know
should
tell
the
entire
story
for
everyone,
but
in
the
meantime,
wear
a
mask.
You
know
we're
about
to
see
our
population
triple
in
size
on
the
19th
of
august.
That's
right
around
the
corner,
so
I'm
going
to
encourage
people
now
before
the
mandate
comes
when
you're
going
in
places
that
are
open
to
the
public.
Wear
a
face
mask
plain
and
simple:.
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
If
no
other
comments
or
questions,
then
we
will
move
on
and
thank
you
councilmember
grace
for
following
up
with
that,
and
as
always,
we
have
our
ordinances
and
resolutions
always
reviewed
by
the
law
director,
so
that
we'll
be
following,
and
we
appreciate
her
help
with
this.
A
The
next
item
of
business
is
titled
opioid
settlement
and
we
received
word
late
last
week.
I
believe
that
we
needed
we
need
to
consider
passing
legislation
if,
as
part
of
the
settlement
for
the
national
opioid
settlement,
if
we
are
to
take
advantage
of
the
settlement
monies
that
will
be
made
available
through
the
state
and
to
different
counties
in
the
state,
and
so
we
have,
we
will
have
for
consideration
later.
A
resolution.
A
Excuse
me
an
ordinance
of
95
21
that
authorizes
the
mayor
to
accept
and
agree
to.
The
material
terms
of
the
proposed
settlement
is
summarized
in
exhibits,
one
and
two
which
have
been
provided
to
council
members
and
that
verifying,
and
also
in
the
ordinance
that
these
discussions
occurred
in
public
and
that
this
ordinance
would
also
have
an
emergency
measure
so
that
it
could
be
take
effect
immediately
upon
signature.
A
Since
we
have
to
have
this
ordinance
to
the
state
by
friday,
this
friday
and
part
of
the
this
settlement
is
the
the
opioid
litigation
with
amerisource
bergen
cardinal
health
and
mckesson.
Those
were
the
distributors
and
eight
hundred
four
million
eight
hundred
sixty
five
thousand
four
hundred
twenty
nine
dollars
will
be
provided
to
the
state
of
ohio
as
part
of
this
settlement,
and
as
I
understand
it,
we
will
be
athens.
A
A
B
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
this
is
a
much
needed
in
our
region.
The
numbers
of
thus
far
in
2021
for
overdose
death
rates
have
many
of
the
counties
in
southern
ohio.
We're
very
fortunate.
Athens
county
is
not
one
of
them,
but
many
of
the
counties
surrounding
us
are
in
the
the
top
10
overdose
rates
in
in
the
state
and
we've.
We
have
record
numbers
of
overdose
deaths
in
our
region,
and
so
I
I
really
hope
that
this
can
can
go
to
addressing
the
really
serious
need
here.
A
G
G
We
were
trying
for
a
fee
rate
increase
that
caused
created
a
net
zero
balance
in
our
760,
the
solid
waste
fund
and
as
we're
looking
at
this,
we
monitor
this
all
the
time
as
we're.
Looking
at
this,
we
found
a
small
but
persistent
deficit
in
our
rates.
I
went
back
to
try
to
find
out
what
the
cause
of
that
was,
and
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
slides
up
here,
and
sometimes
this
helps
me
to
be
able
to
see
to
see
graphs.
G
And
then
this
year
we're
seeing
that
again
where
we
did
have
a
little
bit
more
with
mostly
the
solid
waste
revenue
comes
in
from
move
out
and
it
was
a
little
more
like
normal,
but
not
nowhere
near
what
you
would
typically
see.
And
so
we
were
expecting
125
000
in
revenue,
and
we
got
about
half
of
that.
So
a
little
less
than
half
of
that
and.
D
G
The
next
slide
also
because
our
students
weren't
here
we
we
have
to
train
the
students
every
year,
and
so
we
do
that
with
a
carrot
and
a
stick,
we
try
to
make
sure
that
they
clean
up
after
themselves
and
if
they
don't,
we,
we
attach
trash
tickets
and
we
generated
revenue
from
that
because
the
students
weren't
here
as
you
can
see,
revenue
was
significantly
less
than
what
we
had
anticipated
and
we
think
this
is
because
of
covid.
So
if
you
look
at
the
next
slide,
this
is
where
we
are
right
now.
G
G
Because
we
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
we
we
think
we're
going
to
be
40
or
50
000
in
the
negative
and
then
we'll
have
to
make
up
for
that
in
some
way
in
this
fund.
So
one
of
the
things
I
looked
at
was
a
small
adjustment
to
the
fees,
which
was
a
be
a
five
percent
increase
to
all
the
rates
and
then
a
two
dollar
increase
to
the
recycle
fee
that
goes
to
people
that
don't
participate
in
the
actual
solid
waste,
solid
waste
collection.
G
So
if
we
make
those
two
adjustments,
we
think
we
can
get
back
on
track.
We
would
like
to
see
we're
going
to
keep
we'll
keep
monitoring
this
stuff.
We'll
keep
looking
at
this
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
stay
on
course,
but
we
really
would
like
council
to
look
at
adjusting
solid
waste
rates,
so
we
can
get
a
net
get
back
to
a
net
zero
balance
in
our
760
solid
waste
fund.
G
A
E
E
G
We
had
discussed
that
we
also
have
some
additional
costs
this
year
that
should
go
into
this
fund.
That
would
be
the
replacement
of
big
bellies,
so
we
have
to.
We
have
some
some
money
we
have
to
outlay
for
that,
and
I
have
made
some
suggestions
that
maybe
we
could
use
coveted
funds
to
to
cover
some
of
that.
I
don't
know
where
we
are
with
it.
F
F
But
I
see
that
we
do
have
an
opportunity
that
we
can
discuss.
You
know
using
the
american
rescue
plan
dollars
because
it
does
with
the
guidance
from
the
treasury
that
it
can
be
used
for
demonstratable
deficits
created
by
the
pandemic
and
given
the
work
that
david
has
done,
which
is
outstanding,
you
know
that
there
might
be
several
ways
we
can
approach
this
in
terms
of
making
this
up.
F
I
should
also
add
I
mean
david-
has
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this,
and
this
is
what
david
you
know
has
done
for
many
years
prior
to
coming
here
to
athens
when
he
was
doing
this
in
the
city
of
mason
ohio.
So
he's
no
stranger
to
looking
at
the
revenues
and
the
expenditures
that
we
have
that
the
city
has
when
it
comes
to
trash
recycling.
E
C
Thank
you,
president
knisley.
I
also
appreciate
director
riggs,
taking
a
close
look
before
the
end
of
the
year
at
what
your
budget
is
doing
and
trying
to
you
know,
it's
got
a
balance
right
and
I
and
I
appreciate
you
coming
forward
with
this
information
couple
of
questions.
If
covid
caused
it
and
we
get
beyond
covid,
are
we
worried
about
then
having
rates
that
are
too
high
and
that
will
create
then
a
surplus
of
money
in
the
garbage
fund.
G
That's
something
that
we
should
should
look
at.
Yes,
I
don't
and
and
again
I
knew
we
never
expected
covet
to
covet
to
occur
and
we
did
have
a
little
bit
of
fat
in
that
fund.
It's
gone
down,
we
don't
have
it
anymore
and
it's
because
of
you
know:
what's
happened
in
the
city
in
the
last
18
months.
G
C
Okay
and
one
mother
follow-up,
if
I
could,
you
showed
the
projections
for
special
halls,
for
example,
they
seem
to
be
considered
projected
to
be
considerably
higher
than
previous
years.
Is
there
a
reason
why
125
was
projected
instead
of
75
or.
G
Yes,
yes,
we
had
a
50
increase
in
our
in
2000
in
the
rate
for
solid
waste
special
halls,
so
it
went
up
from
750
or
eight
dollars.
It
went
up
significantly.
H
All
the
work
that
you
put
in
on
this
when
we
talked
about
this
last
year,
you
also
sent
out
a
matrix
of
what
our
garbage
rates
are
compared
to
many
of
the
other
cities
and
towns
around
us,
and
I
think
that
reviewing
every
year
the
fees
makes
sense,
because
for
a
lot
of
years
we
didn't
do
any
review
and
athens
has
historically
been
under
valued
with
the
the
garbage,
hauling
and
stuff.
H
When
you
compare
all
the
other
cities,
we
get
a
great
deal
and
we
are
like
leaders
in
composting
and
those
sort
of
things
when
you
look
at
the
prices-
and
these
are
probably
even
more
skewed-
is
that
we
get
a
great
deal
from
what
you
guys
have
been
doing
and
contracting
for
so
it's
something
that
we
should
for
sure
support
going
ahead.
Make
sure
that
we
support
it,
how
it
needs
to
be
every
year
with
an
eye
of
not
letting
it
fall
behind.
I
Thank
you
and
thank
you
director.
You
mentioned
that
there
might
be
a
fee
for
folks
who
have
not
participated
in
the
collection,
and
I
was
wondering
what
percentage
of
athens
residents
wouldn't
participate
in
garbage
trash
recycling
pickups.
G
Sure
so
this
was
this
was
one
of
the
ones
that
was
kind
of
complicated.
For
me,
there
are,
there
are
a
lot
of
counts
that
that
you
have
for
water
and
sewer
that
you
don't
have
for
solid
waste,
and
that's
because
we
consider
commercial,
solid
waste
to
be
like
an
independent,
separate
from
the
residential
solid
waste.
So
this
would
be
the
folks
that
get
a
water
and
sewer
bill,
but
contract
out
their
solid
waste
to
to
another
entity
yeah.
Thank
you.
G
There's
there
is
currently
they
currently
pay
a
fee,
so
this
would
just
be
an
increase
to
that.
Okay,.
J
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
remind
council
when
we're
talking
about
raising
these
raids,
that
all
of
a
sudden
we're
going
to
be
flush,
that
we
are
councils
in
the
process
of
transferring
150
000
from
the
general
fund
into
the
garbage
fund
to
shore
it
up.
So
we
we've
really
got
some
make-up
time
to
do
and
it's
time
to
move
forward
with
these
rates.
I've
looked
at
these
rates-
it's
not
up
to
me
at
all,
but
they
seem
very
reasonable.
J
What
what
david
has
put
together
in
my
mind,
but
yeah
we're
actually
coming
from
behind
we're,
not
just
deciding
to
add
some
extra
money
in
there.
So
we
have
it
available
and
if
we
do
want
to
spend
money
or
need
to
on
anything
in
the
next
couple
years,
we're
not
going
to
have
it
with
this,
and
you
know
we're
really
coming
from
way
behind.
K
Thank
you,
madam
president.
I've
been
on
council
long
enough.
I
remember
when
I
first
came
on
council.
K
K
K
So
I
I
see
nothing
wrong
with
building
up
a
surplus
now,
obviously,
if
it's
extreme,
we
need
to
adjust
rates
down,
but
if
we
can
build
up
a
surplus
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
cushion,
because
it
didn't
take
very
long
for
our
cushion
at
that
time
to
disappear.
In
fact
it
disappeared
within
about
a
year.
K
C
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
for
the
public
and-
and
maybe
director
riggs,
if
he
has
this
number
on
the
top
of
his
head,
can
confirm
this.
I
believe
that
for
most
of
us
one
container
rate,
it
would
be
a
73
cent
in
73
cents
increase
over
our
current
rates
for
one
container
and
I
believe,
a
dollar
and
five
cents
increase
for
those
who
have
two
containers
so
just
to
get
it
down
to
the
you
know
what
it
really
means.
C
B
Yes,
thank
you.
I
I
was
going
to
make
the
same
point
that
member
carl
made,
and
but
I
do
want
to
clarify
that's
for
owner-occupied
units
that
have
either
one
or
two
containers
and
rental
units
do
have
different
rates
based
on
on
the
number
of
occupants
that
the
rental
property
is
zoned
for
and
those
those
rates
would
also
change.
But
it's
between
one
and
three
units.
It's!
B
They
have
two
containers,
so
it's
the
same
as
as
an
owner
occupied
a
two
container
which
goes
up
a
dollar
and
five
cents
and
then
for
four
to
six
occupants.
It
goes
up
a
dollar
and
twenty
cents.
Seven
to
nine.
Is
I'm
doing
math
quickly
here
from
a
dollar
and
twenty
eight
cents,
so
it
there's
a
five
percent
increase,
but
from
for
most
the
owner
occupied
it's
a
very
minor
increase.
A
A
We'll
now
move
on
to
our
finance
and
personnel
committee
and
that's
chaired
by
council
member
crowl
and
joined
by
council
members,
reisner
and
smedley
and
our
other
council
members
will
join
us
at
the
table
down
below,
and
I
know
we
have
instructions
from
our
director
of
our
government
channel
to
make
sure
we
speak
up
if
we're
going
to
make
comments
from
the
table
below
at
those
microphones.
Thanks.
C
Thank
you,
president.
Nicely
first
item
on
our
agenda
for
finance
and
personnel
tonight
is
2021
staffing
position
modifications.
C
I
think
everybody's
aware
that
our
service
safety
director
andrew
stone,
is
back
in
town
and
we're
starting
to
get
people
into
the
positions
that
they
have
been
primarily
doing
for
for
for
many
many
years,
and
the
city
administration
is
looking
closely
at
this
issue
of
of
staffing
positions
and
on
top
of
having
a
few
resignations
recently
in
the
city
of
athens
and
the
city,
administration
is
looking
at
how
to
not
only
fill
positions
but
perhaps
reorganize
going
forward.
C
The
first
position
to
discuss
tonight
is
the
chief
information
officer
for
the
city,
mr
david
dudding,
who
has
been
with
the
city
for
quite
a
while
has
recently
resigned,
and
the
city
administration
is
looking
at
perhaps
outsourcing
information
technology.
Both
you
know
most
of
the
positions,
as
well
as
the
management
of
our
network.
C
F
Sure,
well,
you
you
kind
of
hit
on
it
in
that
you
know,
I'm
constantly
getting
emails
from
companies
that
this
is
what
they
do
for
a
living
that
they
are.
You
know
third-party
managers
of
your
I.t
system,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
necessarily
everything
is
going
to
move
to
the
clouds.
You
know,
there's
certain
things
we'll
maintain
be
maintained
here,
physically
other
things
can
migrate
to
the
cloud
and
it'll
be.
F
We
want
to
look
at
this
over
a
six
month
period
of
time.
You
know
the
service
safety
director
and
chief
tom
pyle
who's
fairly
tech
savvy
as
well.
The
two
of
them
are
going
to
vet
a
number
of
these
companies
and
decide
whom
we
might
want
to
enter
into
a
six-month
trial
period
with,
and
if
things
go
well,
we
would
enter
into
a
long-term
contract.
F
Certainly
we'll
have
to
have
council
authorization
to
go
through
an
effort
like
this
and
when
we
get
to
that
point,
we
would
maintain
an
I.t
technician
position
here,
we'll
increase
at
one
pay
grade
because
we're
going
to
increase
the
responsibilities
of
that
individual
as
we
move
forward,
and
then
we
also
have
a
system
administrator.
That
council
has
authorized
at
this
point
in
time.
We're
going
to
have
it,
keep
it
on
the
books
on
in
within
the
staffing
ordinance.
F
But
at
this
point
keep
that
unfilled,
because
this
is
where
we're
looking
for
guidance
from
whomever
we
enter
into
contract
with.
They
may
recommend
that
we
have
more
technicians
working
in
the
city,
and
so
we
would
use
that
systems
administrator
for
something
such
as
that.
So
that's
the
cio
piece
of
this
for
council.
C
And
if
I
understand
correctly,
the
salary
that
goes
to
the
cio
position
might
be
enough
to
cover
the
outsourcing.
That's
what
we're
hoping!
Okay.
A
Well,
it
didn't
work
last
time
because
or
here's
what
we
found
or
you
know,
and
so
to
be
looking
for
those
things
as
we
go
to
interview
other
companies
and
how
we're
going
to
take
care
of
that,
I
think,
would
be.
F
Yeah-
and
I
will
follow
up
with
that,
if
I
may,
I
will
certainly
be
reaching
out
through
the
mayor's
partnership
for
progress
and
see
what
other
cities,
as
well
as
the
ohio
mayor's
alliance.
You
know
what
cities
are
outsourcing
their
id,
you
know
and
who's,
not
you
know
who
may
have
done
it
and
went
back
to
having
you
know:
full-time
I.t
staff.
A
E
Yes,
member
smedley,
thank
you,
member
crowl,
anytime.
You
have
a
vacancy,
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
reassess.
So
I
appreciate
you
guys
being
thinking
creatively
and
trying
to
see
what
might
be
a
good
fit.
I
do
like
the
idea
of
doing
a
six-month
trial
that
seems
to
make
sense
see
if
it's
going
to
work
out
for
us,
I'm
remaining
flexible
and
as
you
as
we
move
forward,
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
what
safety
measures
are
in
place.
E
L
K
C
K
To
have
something
to
say,
I
guess
yeah.
I
have
mixed
feelings
about
this,
because
our
track
record
with
outsourcing,
I
don't
know-
has
been
kind
of
frankly
abysmal
and
I'm
very,
very
reluctant
to
see
data
that's
sensitive,
such
as
social
security
numbers
and
other
things
like
that
numbers
physically,
leaving
the
place
once
they're
on
the
cloud
you
don't
know
where
they're
at
I
mean
you
literally
have
no
idea,
because
the
systems
that
are
set
up
are
distributed,
parts
of
it
could
be
in
new
jersey.
K
The
other
problem
I
see
is
that
cloud
storage
facilities
are
the
ones
that
the
the
hackers
really
like
to
target
they're.
The
big
targets
I
mean-
we've
been
hacked
we've
been,
we've
been
breached
a
couple
of
times,
but
we're
pretty
small
fry.
It's
almost
not
even
worth
it
a
hacker
to
come
in
here,
but
you
have
the
big
guys.
K
They
think
well,
we'll
just
send
them
something
that
says:
you're
shut
down
until
you
pass
a
hundred
thousand
million
dollars
and
you
know
they're
paying
these
companies
that
are
being
hacked
and
get
ransomware
the
way
they're
getting
around.
It
is
they're
not
solving
the
problem
with
a
better
I.t
solution,
they're
paying
the
ransom.
K
Now,
there's
some
people
in
congress
are
saying:
well,
we
need
to
pass
a
law
to
make
that
illegal.
I
suspect
it
already
is,
and
I
don't
think
such
a
law
but
would
even
be
enforceable,
because
all
you're
going
to
do
is
just
simply
drive
someone
underground,
we've
been
hacked
ransomware,
don't
tell
anybody
we'll
pay,
so
I
I
I
have
reservations
about
this.
I've
been
an
I.t
for
35
years.
I've
seen
everything
coming
and
gone.
Yeah
and
nothing
surprises
me
anymore,
but
I
I
just
feel
better.
K
K
C
Thank
you,
member
eisner,
anyone
else,
mr
deloc,
would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself
and
comment.
L
I'm
rob
delac
124
morris
avenue
in
athens,
I'm
not
representing
anyone
over
myself
right
now.
I
just
was
curious.
How
far
this
goes.
It
sounded
like
from
the
description
of
department
supported.
Maybe
it
doesn't
include
the
communications
infrastructure
of
a
council
or
it
does
it,
so
it
is
include
sort
of
all.
I
t
infrastructure
support
for
the
for
the
city,
including
broadcasting,
council
meetings
and
other
communications
relating
to
that.
It.
F
C
Any
other
comments
or
questions
on
this
item.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
the
next
staffing
position
to
discuss
is
within
the
engineering
and
public
works
department.
This
is
more
of
a
possible
reorganization.
I
think
that
most
people
are
aware
that
the
city
has
an
unfilled
position
of
city
engineer
and
the
director
of
public
works.
C
C
So
there
is
some
there's
hope
right,
but
there's
also
like
secondary
plans
mayor.
Do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this
epw.
F
Help
remember
crawl.
There
is
an
alternative
plan
to
that,
and
that
would
be
to
hire
an
a
city
engineer
and
then
hire
an
individual.
Who
has
the
management
background
to
manage
engineering
and
public
works?
As
you
indicated,
it's
difficult
finding
an
individual
with
both
qualities.
F
We
have
been
successful,
but
it's
it's
challenging
and
even
in
the
larger
markets
that
tends
to
be
challenging,
but
we
feel
that
this
plan
would
would
work
to
to
identify
that
individual
to
have
the
capital
projects
and
construction
manager,
which
would
really
that
individual
doesn't
have
to
have
a
pe,
doesn't
have
to
be
a
licensed
engineer,
but
that
person
would
oversee
all
of
the
multitude
of
projects,
engineering
projects
that
we
have
going
on
in
the
city
of
athens,
and
it
would
certainly
take
a
lot
of
the
the
load
off
of
jessica
dyn's
shoulders
to
get
this
through
as
soon
as
possible.
F
She's.
Actually,
the
person
who's,
who
kind
of
initiated
this
plan
and
working
this
way
again.
The
alternative
is
not
the
preferred
alternative
and
it
would
be
to
hire
two
individuals
again,
one
as
the
manager
basically
of
engineering
and
public
works
and
the
other
person
being
the
city
engineer,
which
requires
being
a
licensed
pe.
E
I
certainly
in
support
of
trying
to
find
again
once
again
creative
ways
to
fill
these
positions,
especially
if
it
means
creating
a
position,
that's
even
more
attractive
to
interim
director
jessica
adain.
I
see
some
of
the
re-shifting
would
have
her
doing
some
of
the
things
that
she
likes
to
do
and
she's
done
such
a
stellar
job.
It
would
be
wonderful
to
to
really
keep
her
as
long
as
as
we
can
yeah
best
of
luck
and
yeah
in
support
of
doing
what
we
need
find
the
right
people.
C
Yes,
auditor
heck
join
us.
J
So
there's
another
vacant
position
over
there
for
an
administrative
assistant.
Is
that
going
to
be
it's
been
vacant
for
quite
a
while,
which
I
imagine
hasn't
helped
the
workload
over
there,
but
is
that
position
going
to
stay
and
be
filled
and
we're
just
going
to
change
the
director
position
into
two.
F
That
that
deputy
director
position
would
is
the
one
that
we're
talking
about
that
kind
of
those.
Some
of
those
duties
get
folded
into
what
the
assistant
engineer
is
currently
doing,
and
so
that
one,
I
believe
the
plan
would
be
to
well
we'd,
keep
it
on
the
books
or
keep
it
in
the
staffing
ordinance.
J
J
So
we
do
have
a
lot
of
openings
right
now,
I'll
grant
you
that,
but
some
of
those
were
held
on
purpose,
like
I
said
and
so
yeah
that
administrative
assistant
has
been
empty
for
quite
a
while,
and
so
so
there's
two
vacant
positions
technically
three
right
now
so
then,
so
you
want
to
add
another
full
position
in
the
management
level.
Well,.
F
A
H
A
You
have
one
more
copy.
We
did
receive
a
copy
of
this
proposal
shortly
before
the
meeting.
Is
there
another
copy
for.
A
F
J
Yeah
please
membership.
Oh
thank.
E
You
man
thanks
to
audit
our
hex
point.
Maybe
once
we
have
a
better
a
next
step
to
this
would
be
maybe
a
grid.
You
know
option
one
is
to
do
these
positions.
This
is
what
it
would
cost
and
how
it's
different
from
now
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
way
you
can
get
a
picture
of
what
the
financial
implications
of
these
changes
would
be.
C
Any
other
questions
or
comments
other
council
members,
okay,
moving
on
the
last
position
on
this
agenda
item
arts
parks
and
recreation,
I
believe
we're
all
aware
that
the
last
day
for
the
current
director
of
arts,
parts
and
recreation
is
friday
and
prior
to
her
resignation,
she
had
requested
a
facilities,
operation
manager
at
arts,
parks
and
recreation,
and
that
position
is
now
vacant.
C
The
idea
is
to
hopefully
fill
that
position
as
soon
as
possible
with
a
wonderful
person
who
will
then
make
the
call
on
the
facilities
operation
manager.
So
we
don't
really
have
anything.
F
F
Let
them
take
a
look
at
the
structure
that
is
in
place
right
now
and
see
if
that's
the
best
way
to
have
operations,
run
staffing
down
there,
and
so
yes,
so
we're
not
filling
that
prior
to
the
hire
of
the
new
director,
that
being
the
facilities,
operation,
manager.
C
I'm
sure
the
city
administration
is
aware
and
concurs
that
we're
all
in
support
of
our
lifeguards,
and
we
all
want
the
city
pool
to
be
a
successful
and
safe
facility
and
perhaps
having
a
facilities.
Operation
manager
will
ensure
that,
or
certainly
help
that
move
that
forward
member
committee,
any
comments
or
questions
other
members
of
council,
public
or
other
administrators.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
We're
moving
on
now
to
the
second
item
on
our
committee
accepting
the
amounts
and
rates
determined
by
the
budget
commission
of
general
property
tax.
C
This
is
a
request
from
the
county
auditor,
mrs
thompson,
to
accept
the
property
tax
rates
of
2.6
mills
for
athens,
township
and
2.4
mills
for
kanan
township,
and
this
has
to
come
through
council.
I
think
that
is
really
all
the
information
that
I
have
on
that.
Yes,
remember:
reisman,.
K
Yeah,
the
just
to
give
people
some
background.
What
this
all
about
the
city
of
athens
does
not
levy
a
property
tax,
but
we
do
have
to
maintain
the
roads,
bridges
and
other
infrastructure
that
the
townships
of
athens,
township
and
canaan
township
partially,
would
normally
maintain.
But
since
the
city
occupies
almost
all
of
athens
township
the
trustees
in
that
township
really
maintained
very
little.
K
C
E
L
J
It's
a
pretty
complicated
calculation
that
they
do
part
of
it
is
the
computation
and
part
of
it,
it's
all
based
on
by
law
and
it's
what
they
call
our
inside
millage
limit
so
that
we
we
cannot
or
the
county
like.
We
put
a
levy
on.
J
You
know
beyond
our
actual
costs,
and
so
yes,
I've
taken
some
workshops
on
that,
even
from
jill,
but
I
couldn't
probably
explain
it
to
you,
but
it's.
I
will
say
this
that
inside
millage
that
that's
in
this
has
been
the
same
since
I've
been
in
office.
So
it's
that's
at
least
20
years
we
just
haven't
changed
it.
You
have
to
have
a
pretty
good
reason
to
go
beyond
your
millage
and
ask
them
to
to
assess
more
on
property
taxes
for
your
entity.
C
Any
other
questions:
council
members.
Okay,
thank
you.
Moving
on
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
sopek
grant.
C
The
city
of
athens
is
a
member
of
the
southeast,
ohio
public
energy
council
sopek,
and
so
we
are
as
a
city
eligible
for
sopak
community
grants
and
the
city
would
like
to
accept
a
grant
in
the
amount
of
forty
thousand
dollars
and
turn
this
money
over
to
the
hapcap
hocking
athens,
perry,
county
community
action
program,
I
believe,
for
an
elect
to
purchase
or
help
offset
the
cost
of
purchasing
an
electric
bus
for
their
transportation
system.
C
Thank
you,
member
grace,
any
other
comments.
Okay,
thank
you.
Moving
on
to
our
next
item
is,
I
believe,
road
salt
right,
mr
reisner,
the
salt
of
the
earth
small,
the
earth.
This
is
an
appropriation
again.
Our
outstanding
director
of
public
works
has
taken
a
close
look
at
our
stock,
our
storage
of
road
salt,
and
we
need
to
purchase
some
more
so
this
would
be
an
appropriation
coming
to
council
for
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
to
purchase
road
salt.
Any
questions
from
council
from
committee.
Yes,
mr
reisner.
C
K
I
C
It's
how
much
you've
used
and
then
at
what
point
you
need
to
purchase
more,
so
it
hasn't
been
like
an
annual,
in
my
mind,
the
same
amount,
but
we
could
look
at
that
to
see
it's
a
great
question
to
see
what
the
amounts
have
been
and
how
this
you
know
compares
thank
you
with
other
years
and
and
I'm
also
interested
actually
in
the
in
the
cost
of
how
much
time
did
you
get
for
that
35k
compared
to
previous
years,
so
we
can
get
that
information.
Perhaps
the
auditor
has
some
information
yeah.
J
It
changes
a
lot
well,
I
can
give
you
the
numbers.
So
far.
This
year
we
budgeted
90,
000
and
there's
about
17
000
left
in
that
account
line,
and
so
yeah,
that's
probably
not
enough
for
us
to
get
through
the
winter,
and
basically
we
still
have
salt,
but
they
want
to
fill
the
bin
up
was
my
understanding
from
jessica's
email
to
you
know
just
be
full
when
the
winner
starts,
because
that's
not
the
time
to
order
and
have
salt
delivery.
C
J
F
J
C
Remember
eisner.
Thank
you,
auditor.
I
appreciate
that
information.
I
was
also
mentioning
the
cost
of
salt
changes
too
right,
so
we
do
have
to
look
at
all
those
things,
but
thank
you,
mayor
mccary.
Those
are
very
good
questions.
Any
other
comments
on
this
item.
Thank
you.
That's
ins,
finance
and
personnel.
A
A
New
computers.
I
A
H
F
H
Item
on
the
agenda
is
the
special
improvement
district,
which
is
a
another
one
of
these
acronyms
sid
special
improvement
district,
that
the
ohio
revised
code
at
the
state
level
allows
communities
to
develop
to
help
improve
certain
districts
that
would
be
in
in
the
city.
This
particular
one
is
the
uptown
special
improvement
district
and
it
is
a
process
that
is
mediated
and
pushed
by
the
owners
of
the
land
of
the
owners
of
property
in
that
improvement
district.
H
This
is
our
uptown
one
that
the
mayor
has
been
working
on
for
a
lot
of
years,
and
this
particular
improvement
district
now
is
at
the
point
where
they
would
like
to
put
forward
their
agreement.
That
they've
been
working
on
the
role
of
city
council.
Is
that
we've
looked
at
it
and
we've
made
recommendations
like
go
for
it,
and
then
they
are
now
going
through
the
process
of
getting
all
the
signatures.
H
To
do
certain
things
that
we
all
know
that
they
would
like
to
do
is
to
professionalize
services
such
as
gum
removals,
snow
removal,
those
sort
of
things
to
make
it
all
work
seamlessly
up
in
the
uptown
area,
so
that
will
come
forward
in
regular
work,
regular
ordinance
after
the
everybody
has
gone
through
and
signed
it,
which
is
pretty
much
done
so
in
the
next
few
weeks.
We
will
probably
see
this.
F
The
other
piece
of
this
is
that
there's
a
cost
associated
with
it
and
it'll
be
ten
dollars
per
linear
foot
that
each
property
within
the
sid
would
be
assessed,
and
that's
where
the
revenue
comes
from
for
those
particular
services.
H
So
it's
an
it's.
H
You
know
a
lot
of
people
have
made
this
really
possible
uptown
and
and
all
the
people
who've
been
working
on
it.
So
there
is
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel.
Great
questions
comments.
Okay,
mr
zip,.
D
H
Well
right
now,
it's
kind
of
on
an
ad
hoc
basis
of
volunteers
and
and
people
paying,
for
it
will
help
to
professionalize
it,
as
instead
of
everybody
who
are
who's
a
landowner.
You
know
trying
to
to
contract
separately.
It
will
act
as
a
central
contracting
with
with
services
or
with
buying
pieces
of
of
equipment
and
those
sort
of
things.
So
it's
like
a
block.
It's
like
a
cooperative
in
that
way,
and
that
will
help
to
make
sure,
there's
seamless
and
all
those
sort
of
things.
F
F
Be
it's
basically
carpenter
all
the
way
to
a
little
bit
beyond
union,
and
then
it
would
be
hemmed
in,
but
not
including
college
and
congress.
So
it
would
include
all
of
carpenter
in
between
those
allegedly.
The
way
we
had
to
draw
it
is,
as
you
know,
college
doesn't
go
all
the
way
through
to
carpenter.
F
It
becomes
it
dumps
it
stops
at
estate
street,
so
we
just
drew
a
line
that
would
go
up
to
would
start
at
grosner,
so
from
grosner
all
the
way
out
to
to
congress,
but
then
for
state,
washington
and
union.
It
is
between
college
and
congress.
That
is
the
boundaries
for
that.
So
it's
all
the
businesses.
F
Well,
really,
it's
all
the
properties
right,
the
property
owners
that
that
incur
this
self-imposed
assessment
that
would
build
up
the
revenue
for
the
city
itself,
so.
F
It
does
include
city
hall,
municipal
governments,
have
the
option
to
also
be
a
payer
in
there
they're
in
ohio,
revised
code,
churches
are
exempt,
places
of
worship
are
exempt,
municipal
buildings
or
structures
are
exempt,
and
ohio
university
would
be
exempt
from
the
sid,
which
is
kind
of
why
we
drew
it.
The
way
we
did,
but
for
the
city
it
would
include
the
armory
the
parking
garage
in
the
city
building,
okay,.
B
This
is
something
that
that
the
mayor
has
shown
a
lot
of
persistence
in
in
getting
us
to
this
point
with
the
sid
and
just
as
as
people
who,
who
work
or
spend
time
uptown,
know
or
probably
have
observed
if
we
have
a
snow
event,
it's
up
to
each
individual
business
or
property
owner
to
maintain
clearing
of
the
sidewalks,
and
it
would
be
really
nice
to
have
just
a
uniform
snow
removal
plan
that
is
done
throughout
this
in,
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
great,
and
I
know
the
city
did
opt-in.
We
chose
to
participate.
H
H
L
K
Thank
you.
Madam
president,
I
just
have
one
item
on
the
agenda
here:
parking
regulations
amend
athens
city
code
to
add
an
appeal
process
and
I
have
the
section
of
code
and
the
amendment
that
would
be
added
to
it.
So
let
me
read
the
way
the
section
read
reads
now:
whoever
parks,
in
violation
of
any
regulation-
chapter
7.05,
not
otherwise,
covered
by
another
section
of
7.09.99.
K
Shall
be
deemed
guilty
of
a
minor
misdemeanor
in
lieu
of
a
court
appearance,
an
administrative
fine
of
thirty
dollars
may
be
paid
within
the
first
five
days
following
the
time
of
citation
an
administrative
fine
of
forty
dollars
paid
after
the
first
five
days
following
the
time
of
citation
every
consecutive
hour
of
violation
shall
be
deemed
a
complete
and
separate.
Offense
here
is
the
proposed
addition
to
the
the
code.
K
I
Understand
this
correctly,
each
hour
is
a
separate
incident,
and
if
it's
30
was
it
30
is
a
initial
fine.
Would
that
be
multiplied
by
for
by
ten
if
it's
a
ten
hour
violation.
K
B
Thank
you,
member
eisner.
So
if,
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly
that
the
the
amount
of
the
fine
and
the.
B
K
K
Well,
okay,
then,
this
committee
is
adjourned.
A
H
H
I
think
this
is
a
really
cool
program
that
the
mayor
has
been
working
with,
with
the
sunday
creek
horizons,
which
are
people
who
we've
worked
with
in
other
entities
before
so
so,
if
there's
any
questions
or
anything,
this
is
pretty
much
creating
a
work,
remote
work
system.
The
idea
is
that
once
also
we
get
better
broadband
and
those
sort
of
things
that
it
could
build
on
that
sort
of
backbone
too.
So
is
there
anything
else
you
would
like
to
have.
F
I
would
I
didn't
realize
before
coming
to
council
tonight
that
this
was
on
the
agenda
for
its
third
reading
next
monday.
We
do
have
brent
lane
coming
before
council,
to
speak
briefly
to
the
white
paper
that
the
voynich
school
has
put
forward
in
doing
compiling
a
lot
of
data
and
looking
at
at
trends
across
the
nation
when
it
comes
to
recruitment
and
retention
of
remote
work
workers.
F
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
to
council
that
you
know
it
would
have
been
nice
for
this
all
to
align
up
all
on
the
same
night
and
that
way
everyone's
getting
the
full
picture.
But
we'll
have
to
wait
until
next
monday
to
hear
the
report,
but
the
report
goes
hand
in
hand
with
this
effort
to
have
someone
whose
position
their
job
is
to
really
help
us
on
that
path,
to
retention
and
recruitment
of
people
who
want
to
live
work
and
play
here
in
beautiful
athens,
ohio
and
what
amenities
are
needed.
F
A
And
I
think
we
have
a
draft
of
the
report
and
so
we'll
have
a
final
version
that
we
can
share
with
council
members
several
days,
hopefully
before
the
council
meeting,
so
that
they
can
read
through
it
and
that
would
be
helpful,
be
prepared.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we
have
a
motion.
Oh
and
we
do
have
another
comment.
Yes,
councilmember
crowley.
C
Just
that
this
is
money
from
the
american
recovery
act.
I
believe
that
we're
using
in
the
amount
of
35
000
to
push
this
initiative
forward
correct
correct.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
A
A
I
think
we're
fine,
no
comments
or
questions
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
one.
89
21
is
an
ordinance
accepting
a
firehouse
subs
public
safety
foundation,
critical
grant
award
to
the
athens
city
fire
department,
and
this
is
introduced
by
council
member
grace
and
if
no
comments
or
questions
we'll
move
on
to
91
21.
This
is
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
service
safety
director
to
enter
into
contract
for
the
construction
of
dugouts
for
fields.
One
and
two
at
the
west
state
street
park,
project
number
341
and
that's
introduced
by
councilmember
grace.
A
C
C
Although
this
is
not
necessary,
there
is
already
money
in
the
community
center
fund
for
this
purchase
and
we,
the
unappropriated
balance,
is
quite
low,
as
the
auditor
has
pointed
out,
and
we
don't
want
to
decrease
it
further.
So
we'd
like
to
remove
that
appropriation
from
zero.
Ninety
three
twenty
one:
okay.
A
H
I
move
that
we
suspend
rules
for
95
21.
H
I
H
A
H
A
You
and
do
we
have
a
second
second,
second,
okay,
emotion
and
second,
any
comments
regarding
the
ordinance
any
questions,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying,
aye,
aye
opposed,
nay,
all
right.
That
motion
carries
and
this
ordinance
has
been
approved.
Thank
you,
and
this
takes
care
of
all
of
our
items
of
business
tonight
during
the
special
session,
and
so
if
I
could
have
a
motion
to
adjourn,
I
move.
We
adjourn-
and
I
heard
a
second
okay.