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Athens City Council - October 11, 2021
A
This
was
brought
forward
several
months
ago
by
then
acting
service
safety
director
tom
pyle,
who
thought
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
department,
heads
and
administration
within
the
city
to
review
all
of
the
administrative
fees
that
are
set
up
in
our
code
and
we
have
proceeded
from
there.
So
it's
it's
been
a
months
long
process
and
the
citizens
will
notice
that
next
week,
when
we
move
forward,
there
are
going
to
be
six
different
ordinances
that
will
be
coming
through
as
part
of
this.
A
It's
not
necessarily
a
fee
increase,
so
council
member
fall
has
one
where
she'll
be
describing
offenses
that
will
be
coming
through
through
the
litter
control
officer,
and
that
is
the
the
language.
That's
been
changed
that
council
members
or
this
citizens
who
have
looking
at
the
agenda
and
the
ordinance
draft.
They
will
see
that
that's
highlighted
in
yellow
that's
a
new
text.
That's
going
in
it
says
fee
established
by
separate
ordinance.
A
A
A
And
then
the
other
one
is
a
transfer
fee.
This
is
a
new
one,
and
this
is
a
30
flat
fee
that,
when
a
person
purchases,
a
property
that
will
be
a
rental
and
the
papers,
the
rental
fee
needs
to
be
transferred
from
one
owner
from
the
old
owner
to
the
new
owner
that
that's
the
administrative
fee
for
the
city
to
to
process
that
so
we're
keeping
our
records
accurate.
A
There
are
two
other
ordinances,
the
next
one
that
I'll
describe
briefly
is
by
councilmember
reisner.
This
is
coming
through
the
transportation
committee
and
they
are
when
I
first
read
them.
They
seem
to
be
different,
but
what's
common
to
them
all
is
that
they
are
all
in
chapter
seven
of
our
city
code,
so
there'll
be
one
fee
for
contractor
bags.
Those
will
be
eight
dollars
per
day.
A
There
will
also
be
fees
now
for
an
increase
in
fees
for
the
motorcycle
parking
stickers
there.
They
are
going
from
twenty
dollars
to
forty
dollars
they're
rather
than,
and
if
there
are
two
motorcycles
owned
by
one
individual
or
their
spouse,
then
that
fee
will
be
sixty
dollars
rather
than
the
eighty,
if
it
would
just
be
straight
doubled
the
violation
for
72
hour
restriction
on
the
parking
will
be
going
from
20
to
35
the
fee
for
the
overtime
parking
will
be
moving
from
10
to
15
per
fee
and
then
the
fine.
A
There
are
some
fines
that
are
increasing
if
the
fees
are
not
paid
within
a
certain
period
of
time
that
those
fees
are
going
up,
though,
if
it's
not
paid
within
two
and
a
half.
Let's
see
we'll
go
from,
15
is
the
fee.
Now
that's
charged
that
will
be
raised
to
twenty
dollars
if
it's
paid
within
the
first
five
days
and
the
fee
goes
from
twenty
five
dollars
presently
on
up
to
thirty
dollars.
C
C
It
did
seem
that
there
was
maybe
some
miscommunication
with
the
with
the
with
the
fee
office
and
and
he
wasn't
paying
twenty
dollars
per
year
for
his
motorcycle.
So
it's
quite
an
increase
for
him.
When
I
pointed
out
to
him
that
that
the
code
does
call
the
before
these
changes
for
a
20
per
year
motorcycle,
he
seemed
to
be
a
little
bit
more
understanding.
C
But
he
did
ask
me
what
what
the
need
was
for
these
to
double,
and
he
did
indicate
that
at
the
new
prices
he's
probably
not
going
to
purchase
parking
stickers
anymore,
he
will
just
take
up
a
parking
space
downtown
and
use
quarters
for
the
time
that
he
is
is
parking
downtown,
which
will
save
him
money
in
the
long
run.
He
is
not
a
commuter,
so
he
is
coming
into
town
to
do
business
he's
not
coming
into
town
to
stay
all
day
and
to
and
to
work
in
the
in
the
downtown
area.
C
C
So
it's
pretty
easy
to
get
a
motorcycle
parking
spot
in
town.
If
you
would
like
one,
but
my
only
question
is
if
the
city
administration
had
any.
If
this
doubling
of
this
permitting
fee
was
based
on
not
having
raised
these
rates
in
25
years
or
something
I'm
not
sure
what
the
number
is,
but
I'm
guessing
it's
something
like
that,
and
I
know
we've
also
increased
the
amount
that
we're
requiring
automobile
drivers
to
to
pay
at
the
meter,
and
so
it's
probably
related
to
that
too.
D
D
But
more
than
likely
it's
just
the
the
period
in
time
in
which
that
has
not
changed,
and
as
council's
aware
I
mean
our
meter
rates
have
changed
within
the
past
several
years
or
few
years
anyway
to
where
those
so
the
rates
change.
That's
not
an
uncommon
thing,
but
I
can
get
you
the
last
time
that
was
amended
or
possibly
it
hasn't
been
amended
and
it
was
just
created
and
how
long
ago
that
was
that.
C
E
E
Absolutely
I
can
totally
understand
that
in
that
one
there
there
are
other
instances
that
are
they're
very
they're,
much
smaller,
and
I
wonder
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
evaluate
keys
by
key
spaces,
because
I'm
thinking
something
like
march
on
court
street
for
disability
awareness
is
a
fraction
of
the
impact
on
the
city
than
something
like
homecoming
and
it's
also
an
opportunity
for
peaceful
protest.
And
so
now
we're
in
you
know
imposing
this
much
larger
fee.
A
Particular
fee,
and
so
maybe
the
cost
breakdown,
so
if
they
get
if
they
do
get
a
request-
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
is
that
the
impact
of
the
total
number
volume
of
people
on
the
street
is
much
less
with
the
disability,
commission
or
another
group,
but
the
administrative
time
to
go
through
that
and
set
that
up.
Maybe
you
know,
maybe
we
establish
it
mayor
patterson,
yes,.
D
I
I
completely
respect
and
understand
exactly
what
you're
saying
and
maybe
there's
a
way
that
we
can
look
at
this
to
where
it's
not
just
a
set
amount
per
officer
that
has
to
be
there.
We
also
take
into
account
time,
because
that's
really
what
it's
based
on
is
the
amount
of
time,
an
officer
so
an
event
like
you
just
described.
D
A
Okay,
the
last
ordinance
that
we
want
to
describe
tonight
is
for
the
amending
the
code
fees
for
the
sewer
rates
and
that
will
be
introduced
by
all
members
of
council
next
week,
and
you
might
remember
that
the
sewer
fee,
our
sewer
account
within
the
city,
is
up.
What's
what
we
call
a
proprietary
fund,
and
so
our
revenue
in
needs
to
be
sufficient
to
meet
our
expenses,
and
in
looking
at
that,
the
the
city
has
made
a
determination
on
some
increases.
A
I
will
share
with
you
at
least
the
details
and,
as
this
is
available
online
for
citizens
who
want
to
look
at
this,
but
the
rate
that
I
think
will
affect
many
people.
The
residential
rates,
the
monthly
base
rate
fee
will
be
moving
from
5
55
5.55
cents
per
month
to
5.72
cents
per
month.
So
it's
a
17
cent
per
month,
monthly
rate
increase
on
that
base
rate
and
then
for
the
the
rates
that
I
think
affect
many
of
the
residential
homes.
A
It's
zero
to
fifteen
thousand
gallons,
and
that
rate
that
monthly
base
rate
charge
will
be
moving
from
twenty
eight
dollars
and
forty
cents
to
twenty
nine
dollars.
And
twenty
five
cents,
so
it's
a
seventy
five
cent
in
per
month,
increase
on
that.
So,
but
once
again
the
the
rates
have
been
shared
with
council
members
and
are
available
to
anyone
else
who
wants
to
take
a
look
at
those,
but
that
ordinance
will
also
be
introduced.
Next
week,
council
member
mccary.
F
Thank
you,
since
the
common
theme
of
the
evening
has
been
discussing
or
introducing
some
fee
increases,
I'm
curious
if
folks
can
provide
any
kind
of
context
for
where
people
might
look
to
to
see
where
these
fees
are
in
terms
of
being
on
par
with
other
areas
in
the
county,
or
are
there
resources
that
keep
track
of
that?
That
anyone
knows
about.
D
D
G
I
think
actually
there
might
be
an
excel
sheet
on
our
drive.
That
has
that,
because
that's
been
asked
before,
I
think
with
all
these
fees,
it
is
true
that
some
of
them
have
not
been
raised
for
10
years
and
that's
something
that
the
city
has
been
doing,
trying
to
do
a
better
job.
You
know
like
putting
in
review
requirements
and
ordinances,
and
things
like
that,
because
we
realize
that's
a
dumb
thing.
G
Last
time
when
we
were
talking
about
garbage
issues,
I
looked
at,
you
know
local
areas
and
our
our
rates
were
really
cheap.
You
know
we
have
really
competitive
rates
at
that
point,
you
know
when
you're
looking
at
logan
and
and
lancaster,
they
don't
include
like
the
recycling
and
we
have
like
state
of
the
art
a
lot
and
unfortunately
the
art
has
now
decided,
not
plastic.
A
A
All
right,
if
no
further
questions
what
I'll
do
is
move
on
to
the
second
agenda
item
for
the
committee
of
the
whole,
and
this
returns
us
to
a
liquor.
Permit
that
I
made
an
announcement
about
last
week.
An
application
has
been
made
by
boozy
bubbles,
llc,
that's
located
at
18
south
court
street.
They
have
applied
to
the
division
of
liquor,
control
through
the
department
of
commerce
for
a
d3.
A
I
believe
it's
a
d3
license
and
the
council
has
the
prerogative
if
they
are
have
concerns
about
this
to
issue
a
filing
with
the
department
of
commerce
questioning
this.
We
are
one
of
three
groups
that
can
do
this
to
request
a
hearing.
It
can
be
a
legislative
authority,
a
church
or
a
school,
so
it
can't
be
an
individual,
but
we
could
say
that
so
there
are
some
concerns.
A
Because
at
18
in
south
court
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
concern
about
how
it's
sold
it
has
to
be
sold
in
a
cup.
It
must
be
in
a
glass
or
the
container,
and
the
thought
is
is
that
if
it
is
put
in
a
plastic
cup
and
that
it
is
similar
enough
to
the
other
tea,
that's
being
sold.
That's
non-alcoholic
who's
to
say
that
somebody
might
walk
out
with
the
alcoholic
beverage
and
have
it
on
the
street
and
our
dora.
Our
outdoor
residence.
A
C
Now,
I'm
not
exactly
sure.
If
the
the
tea
portion
sells
food,
they
may
sell
some
kind
of
food,
but
they're
they're
they're,
not
really
a
restaurant.
The
restaurant,
the
food
portion
is
on
the
other
side's
a
separate
business,
the
d3
license.
I
believe
you
have
to
serve
a
food
item
in
order
to
have
that
license.
C
So
I
don't
know
if
one
food
item-
or
you
know-
they're,
not
they're,
not
really
a
restaurant,
and
so
this
just
seems
to
me
to
me
to
be
a
very
unique
situation
that
we
should
look
a
little
more
closely
at
than
just
kind
of
proceed
forward.
I
realize
that
the
division
in
the
ohio
division
of
liquor,
control
controls
the
permits
in
the
city
of
athens
and
and
and
they
have
every
right
to
to
be
next
in
line.
C
C
Boozy
bubbles-
I'm
not
sure,
is
that
I
don't
believe
that's
the
name
of
it.
I
think
it's
bubble
tea
right,
so
is
it
becoming
bubbles,
bubbles
bubbles
so
is
it
becoming
blue?
Is
that
is
that
I'm
not
sure
where
this
fits?
I
have
enough
questions
that
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
council
asks
for
a
hearing
on
this
issue.
J
I
I
C
For
sure
sure
this
is
where
I'm
curious,
I'm
glad
to
know
that
you've
been
through
this
before
and-
and
I
have
some
experience
here-
I
don't
know
how
I've
you
know
these
things
come
in
front
of
us
fairly.
Often
right
we
get
the
transfers
coming.
You
know
the
transfer,
I
don't
I'm
so
you
know
what
what's
our
role
here.
I
don't
exactly
understand.
C
E
I
G
Would
that
go
to
helping
to
answer
questions
I
mean
in
a
hearing.
I've
been
through
the
hearing
too,
and
you
know
it
is
a
legal
hearing
and
lisa
has
to
do
a
lot
of
preparation,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
that
when
we
make
our
decision
on
this,
we
have
to
know
exactly
like
last
time.
We
didn't
want
it
to
happen,
and
that
was
pretty
straightforward.
G
F
I
am
just
going
to
ask
that,
if
we're
getting
more
information,
it
would
also
be
helpful
to
even
have
a
little
bit
of
a
sense
of
the
timeline
for
such
hearings.
Are
they
scheduled
pretty
far
out?
Do
they
take
a
long
time?
Would
this
have
a
significant
impact
on
this
business?
If
there's
a
question
and
if
we
could
just
get
a
little
bit
more
information
about
what
the
hearing
process
entails,
that
would
be
great.
Okay,.
B
I
just
wanted
to
try
and
give
thank
you,
oh
by
the
way
I
want
to
give
just
a
little
clarity
on
what
they
serve
specifically
and
it's
it's
bubble,
tea,
which
is
it's
the
the
little?
What
are
they
soy?
I
can't
remember
what
they
are:
the
little
bubbles,
the
tapioca
or
something
they
have
that
now
they
have
it
for
food
items.
I
have.
I
pulled
up
their
website.
B
B
I
I
think
you
could
argue
that
a
lot
of
these
things
are
food
items
and
it's
just
a
you
know,
smoothies
just
a
banana
made
liquid,
but
I
mean,
if
that's,
if
that's
one
of
the
issues
I
mean
we
can,
we
can
see
it
here.
We
can
pull
up
and
get
a
whole
their
whole
menu,
but
they
also
just
looking
at
their
other
locations.
I
don't
think
they
have
gone
through
a
process
with
a
different
franchise
with
getting
booze
there,
because
all
of
them
currently
are
listed.
B
A
E
B
D
Dora
did
come
up
in
the
conversation
with
council,
the
designated
outdoor
refreshment
area,
just
as
a
reminder
to
people
watching
tonight
and
to
council
that,
in
order
to
operate
adora,
it
has
to
be
in
a
designated
cup
and
therefore
this
business
could
not
create
their
own
or
when
the
door
is
functioning.
They'd
have
to
purchase
the
the
official
door
cups
from
the
city
of
athens.
C
I
appreciate
member
reisner
and
I'm
thinking
more
as
I
sit
here
my
objection,
the
previous
objection
is,
I
understand
the
the
the
history
of
the
previous
objection.
The
the
previous
objection
was
over
was
based
upon
the
alcohol
incidents
on
court
street
that
the
idea
was
to
try
to
limit
the
number
of
alcohol
instants
on
court
street.
That
is
not
my
objection.
C
That's,
maybe
that's
not
even
done,
maybe
they
can
say
you
know,
I
don't
know
we
will
draft
something
which
will
spell
out
our
objection.
Obviously,
and
maybe
they
can
respond
without
a
hearing
and
say
no.
This
is
allowed
by
the
hierarchies
code
and
the
high
department
of
control
says,
and
we
don't
go
through
that
process.
There
are
just
so
many
questions
in
this
individual
situation
with
the
two
businesses
inside
one
restaurant.
C
You
know,
I
don't
know,
I
think
they
can
sell
spiritus
liquor
until
1am
is
the
other.
You
know
I'm
just
thinking
of.
Is
it
a
party
on
this
side
of
the
business?
And
you
know
families
are
coming
in
to
order
on
this
side
of
the
business
and
not
that
that's
my
objection.
It
just
raises
so
many
questions,
but
it's
not.
My
objection
is
not
the
same
as
the
previous
objection
just
to
answer
your
question,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
thoughtful
questions
you're
asking.
Thank
you
great.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
If
no
other
comments
or
questions,
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
planning
and
development
committee,
so
council
member
fall
chairs
this
and
she'll
be
joined
by
council
members,
reisner
and
smedley.
So
we'll
give
just
a
few
moments
for
our
other
council
members
to
move
over
to
the
other
table.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you.
Actually,
it's
really
quite
exciting.
Our
first
agenda
is
doing
more
to
help
athens
become
even
more
sustainable
and
resilient
with
our
proposed
with
the
proposed
solar
array,
so
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
andrew
chickey,
who
is
our
assistant
service
safety
director,
to
take
us
through
the
process
and
what
exciting
things
that
we
will
expect
from
it.
Thank
you.
K
K
K
So
that's
you
know,
that's
a
long
term
savings
now,
there's
a
method
to
get
there
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
jeff
greenfield
the
ceo
of
third
sun
solar
to
explain
the
process
and
some
of
the
properties.
But
I
want
to
remind
the
council
that
we're
our
goal
is
to
meet
a
number
of
different
challenges
with
this
project
beyond
solar,
addressing
pollinator
habitat
is
a
large
part
of
this
project.
K
If
you
imagine
that
you
have
a
several
acre
solar
array,
what
happens
underneath
that
array?
That
is
also
a
sustainable
methodology,
so
we
don't
want
to
have
to
mow
that
all
the
time
and
have
unusable
space.
So
if
we
can
transform
how
we
use
that
to
multi-use
multi-purpose,
that
is
a
real
help,
but
also
as
an
opportunity
for
arts
parks
and
recreation.
To
imagine
some
of
the
properties
in
the
east
state
park
complex.
K
K
L
Thank
you
andy.
Thank
you,
president
knightley
and
council
members.
I
have
a
two
hour
presentation,
but
I
think
that
it's
printed
and
I
will
be
going
through
most
of
it
very
fast
and
try
to
reserve
a
bunch
of
time
for
q,
a
so
basically
an
overview
of
the
the
process
in
the
city
of
athens
goals
that
we
started
with
the
rfp
process,
mostly
focusing
on
the
actual
project
itself
and
then
how
the
project
financing
works.
What
is
a
power
purchase
agreement
or
a
ppa?
Well
I'll,
become
experts
in
that
by
the
time.
L
We've
got
folks
based
in
cleveland,
cincinnati
and
columbus,
but
our
headquarters
is
here
in
athens
and
our
leadership
team
engineering
project
management-
all
is
done
here,
so
the
goal
was,
as
you
all
said,
started
out
with
a
climate
focus,
and
what
can
the
city
do?
There's
plenty
of
reasons
to
do
this
beyond
that,
as
long
as
marketing
of
the
city
and
promotion,
attracting
citizens
etc,
the
rfq
was
issued
what
seems
like
a
million
years
ago
in
covid.
L
I
think
I
went
to
about
seven
meetings
with
the
the
farmer's
market
committee,
for
example,
trying
to
look
at
ways
we
could
collaborate
and
have
a
shelter
be
also
the
solar
array,
and
we
brought
in
bdt,
architects
and
designers
to
help
with
us
and
then
also
a
side
company
that
we
started
a
while
back
that
pro.
Let's
focus
on
project
finance,
called
new
resource
solutions.
L
One
of
the
things
that
changed
is
that
the
rec
center
roof
is
going
to
be
redone,
and
so
we
didn't
want
to
put
solar
on
top
of
a
roof
that
was
going
to
need
to
be
redone
during
the
life
of
the
solar,
so
starting
the
solar
right
after
a
brand
new
re-roof
project
is
perfect.
So
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
the
high
visibility
large
projects
that
children
and
visitors
will
see
and
it
doesn't
take
up
any
ground
space.
L
So
it's
very
easy
to
select
that
the
beautiful
new
swimming
pool
is
another
load
that
we
wanted
to
offset
and
we
wanted
to
again
put
solar
in
a
way
that
wouldn't
reduce
the
amount
of
recreation
that
the
city
had
provide
a
showpiece
and
also
shape
some
parking.
So
we're
going
to
use
a
parking,
shading
structure
similar
to
what's
already
adjacent
to
the
rec
center
and
then
on
the
land
that
I
call
the
library
lawn.
L
This
is
basically
between
the
the
bike
path
and
the
outdoor
wreck
area
along
the
library
where,
incidentally,
we
installed
a
solar
ppa
15
years
ago,
13
years
ago.
That's
on
the
rooftop
of
the
library.
That's
going
to
be
one
of
the
bulk
of
the
feeds
towards
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
and
this
will
also
be
one
of
the
ground
mount
sora
rays
with
the
pollinator
friendly
planting
underneath
it.
L
And
then
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
in
this
photo.
But
the
dog
park
behind
the
holiday
inn
is
another
good
spot,
close
enough
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
that
we
can
locate
a
substantially
large
soil
array
and
get
the
power
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
You
can
see
kind
of
over
in
this
area.
The
community
gardens
are
staying
the
same
exactly
where
they
are
the
dog
park,
the
primary
area
where
the
dogs
play
and
run
etc
is
going
to
be
preserved,
and
then
the
city
because
they're
moving
some
things
around.
L
This
is
a
rendering
of
you
can
see
the
rooftop
solar
on
the
library
there
and
then
the
structure
on
the
ground
and
then
planted
along
that
and
underneath
that
would
be
wildflowers.
We
we
currently
are
doing
this
at
kent
state
university
and
then
we
did
it.
Several
years
ago,
at
denison
university
again
at
denison,
we've
got
a
nine
acre
site
where
we
planted
this
pollinator
friendly,
wildflower
prairiescape,
and
it
actually
is
a
nice
win-win
because
it
doesn't
take
as
much
mowing
underneath
and
it
obviously
has
all
sorts
of
other
benefits.
L
L
Just
to
give
you
a
reference,
we
typically
talk
about
the
size
of
solar,
arrays
and
and
kw,
like
your
house,
might
have
a
10
kw
system
or
an
8kw
system.
The
city
is
now
going
to
have
a
2110
kw
system,
so
2
2
megawatts,
which
will
definitely
put
athens
on
the
map.
It's
not
the
largest
system
that
we've
done,
but
it's
definitely
a
good
sized
one
for
this
application.
L
L
The
big
impact
here
is
the
pounds
of
carbon
per
year
about
50
000
pounds
or
50
50
million
pounds
of
carbon
avoided
per
year,
so
that
really
adds
up
all
right
project
financing
who's
got
my
check.
This
is
a
multi-million
dollar
project
as
a
trick
question
in
a
cash
purchase,
you
basically
have
to
build
your
own
power
plant
and
then
wait
for
the
payback
over
multiple
years
and
if
you're,
a
residential
or
a
business,
you
get
a
federal
tax
credit.
L
The
city
does
not
pay
taxes
and
would
be
leaving
that
subsidy
under
utilized
or
unused,
and
so
the
most
popular
form
of
going
solar
for
units
of
government
or
non-profits
or
educational
institutions
is
called
a
ppa
or
power
purchase
agreement
where
a
for-profit
entity
that
does
pay
taxes
would
pay
for
and
construct
and
own
and
operate
and
take
the
the
maintenance
risk
on
the
solar
power
plant
and
simply
sell
the
customer,
the
energy
each
month
through
a
meter.
The
way
that
you're
already
used
to
buying
your
energy.
L
L
L
They
are
the
third
largest
fleet
of
solar
asset
owners
in
the
nation,
so
they're
good
at
this,
but
they
also
really
are
excited
about
it.
This
will
be
their
first
project
in
ohio,
depending
on
the
timing.
It's
likely
to
be
first
they've
got
another
transaction,
that's
in
play
and
then
we'll
be
their
local
maintenance
and
operator.
We
will
be
building
this
with
all
local
people
and
timeline
right
now
we
are
negotiating
the
or
we're
finalizing
the
design
and
getting
ready
to
go
to
permits.
L
Parallel
to
that,
the
law
director
is
reviewing
the
ppa.
We're
hopeful
that
by
the
end
of
november
that'll
be
done
and
by
february
22nd,
all
the
permits
will
be
done
and
we'll
be
breaking
ground
in
the
spring
when
the
weather
is
ready
for
us
to
break
ground,
and
the
actual
construction
of
this
will
go
relatively
quickly
through
october
2022.
L
The
exception
might
be
we're
going
to
be
tied
to
the
construction
of
the
roof
of
the
recreation
center.
So
that's
a
little
out
of
our
control.
We
can't
do
it
before
they
re-roof
it,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
be
very
careful
to
coordinate
the
construction
at
the
at
the
pool
and
we're
not
going
to
be
doing
any
construction
during
the
heavy
recreation
season.
So
we
might
do
some
work
before
and
some
work
after,
and
I
can
press
two
hours
down
into
a
manageable
couple
minutes
and
have
time
for
q
a
if
there
isn't
great.
L
L
So
if
we
make
an
assumption
about
how
quickly
the
electric
rates
rise,
we
can
come
up
with
a
model,
and
I
think
we
predicted
that
in
the
original
rfp
and
a
response
to
the
rp,
I
don't
have
that
handy
right.
Now,
I'm
going
to
say
it's,
it's
probably
going
to
be
in
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
over
25
years.
L
I
Well,
the
deputy
service
safety
director
was
mentioning
how
much
our
electric
bill
was
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
You
know
32
000,
38
000
a
month
to
me
that
sounds
like
economics,
okay
and
yeah,
I'm
all
for
saving
the
the
world
and
everything
like
that.
But
again
we
have
to
look
at
where
our
money
goes
and
whether
or
not
we're
really
going
to
save
anything
or
not
so.
I
L
Yeah,
I
I
can
understand
the
the
challenge
that
you've
got
the
way.
I
would
answer
a
question
and
I
get
those
questions.
A
lot
is
that
it
is,
you
know,
economically
beneficial,
not
in
a
major
way,
but
it's
also
not
economically
negative.
It
does
not
it's
not
going
to
cost
the
constituent
anything,
and
so
that
said,
we'd
move
on
to
the
economic
and
social
business,
economic
divide,
development,
drivers,
marketing
benefits
to
the
city,
etc.
G
I'd
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
this
really
complements
some
of
the
other
programs
that
we
have
in
the
city
like
the
water
treatment,
the
first
part
of
the
whole
water
system,
where
we
have
the
microgrid
that
we're
doing
the
experiment
with
aep.
That's
right
on
that
adds
resilience
so
that
when
we
get
hit
by
climate
change,
extravaganza
weather,
we
have
the
ability
to
continue
providing
those
essential
services
to
the
people,
and
so
I
think
that
carbon
reduction
is
not
necessarily
always
going
to
be
cheap.
G
However,
building
new
natural
systems
is
a
whole
lot
more
expensive.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
this
as
one
of
the
things
that
we
do,
along
with
the
other
things
that
we've
been
doing
for
years,
making
the
city
sustainable
and
resilient-
and
I
think
resilience
is
essential
because
we've
seen
other
places
where
they
don't
have
resilience
and
people
die.
So
it's
essential
and
I'm
really
excited
you
know
having
with
the
climate
emergency
resolution
and
the
20
the
50
by
2030.
G
Those
are
all
important
things
that
we
present
at
council
so
that
it
motivates
these
sort
of
projects
going
forward.
They
complement
each
other
and
I
want
to
say
very
much
thank
you
for
the
administration
and
look
in
that.
This
is
amazing
and
I'm
really
happy
I'm
doing
a
little
planner
doody
do
so.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
member
paul,
thanks
for
being
here
tonight,
so
you
may
have
said
this
in
more
technical
ways,
so
I
might
repeat
it
in
a
more
simplified
way
just
so
I
make
sure
I
understand
it
so
the
amount
of
money
that
we
were
talking
about,
that
we
paid
monthly
for
this
this
particular
facility.
Are
we
expecting
to
cover
well
this?
Well,
the
num,
the
number
of
panels
we're
planning
to
put
in
generate
that
same
amount
of
energy.
L
We
can't
achieve
100
percent
to
do
that,
to
make
enough
power
to
process
to
to
drive
this
plant
in
december
and
january
we'd
have
to
really
over
produce
in
july
and
august
and
unfortunately,
if
you
over,
produce
in
ohio,
the
economics
goes
down
when
you,
when
you
use
it
a
kilowatt
hour
of
energy
on
site.
It's
it's
very
cost
effective.
If
you
make
more
than
you're
using
in
any
one
month,
the
net
excess
generation
gets
carried
forwards
to
the
next
month,
but
with
an
economic
penalty.
L
K
K
So
it's
on
par
the
the
difference
is,
you
know,
are
we
paying
the
electric
utility
for
what
we
typically
do,
or
are
we
splitting
that
we're?
You
know
we're
paying
a
similar
amount,
but
it's
it's
going
towards
something
that
eventually
will
own.
So
there
is,
you
know
a
future
benefit.
It
may
not
be
you
know
in
the
millions
of
dollars,
but
it's
something
that
long
term
will
continue
to
to
see
a
benefit
from
so
the
price
per
kilowatt
hour.
L
What
they'll
do
is
they'll
pay
the
pay,
cash
and
also
borrow
money
to
build
the
project
and
then
they'll
pay
us
every
year
for
preventative
maintenance
and
then
in
return
they
get
a
big
tax
credit
26
in
year,
one
and
then
their
accelerated
depreciation
will
take
the
value
of
that
asset
and
depreciation
schedule
and
push
that
into
a
front-loaded.
One-Year
modified
accelerated
cash
recovery
s.
L
Even
if
you
buy
it,
they'll
still
be
making
a
profit.
They
get
the
majority
of
their
return
on
investment
right
up
front
in
year,
one
and
then
the
operating
life
of
the
asset
is
just
like
any
other.
You
know
it's
similar
to
rental,
build
an
apartment
building
and
you
rent
it.
Thank
you.
Yeah
you're
welcome.
F
L
In
athens
county-
and
I
think
that
there's
all
sorts
of
lists
where
we
could
be
number
one,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
any
other
specific
city.
I
think
the
city
of
the
village
of
minster
well
they're
a
village,
not
a
city,
so
we'll
throw
them
off
the
largest
projects
that
are
getting
constructed
just
for
perspective.
L
L
A
large
distribution
warehouse,
that's
about
4,
megawatts
on
the
rooftop
of
that
building,
3.9,
so
there's
all
sorts
of
different
sizes.
This
is
not
a
wildly
large
project.
I
think
that
the
city
would
like
to
have
had
it
had
even
larger
impact.
If
we
had
the
room
and
the
you
know
the
way
to
balance
the
economics
we
we
were
charged
with
making
it
as
impactful
as
we
could
within
the
reasonable.
You
know
size
of
the
area
that
we
had
to
work
with,
but
yeah.
L
D
Thank
you
not
so
much
a
question
is
a
comment
because
it
did
come
up.
Councilmember
reisner,
when
you
were
talking
about
you,
know,
cost
and
return
on
investment,
and
so
on
so
forth.
Please
bear
in
mind
that
47.7
million
pounds
annually
of
carbon
that
is
monetized.
You
can
monetize
that
and
show
the
damages
to
the
environment
when
you've
got
that
much
carbon
and
now
we're
talking
about
reducing
that
much
carbon
from
the
atmosphere.
D
Back
in
2018
the
there
was
a
referendum
on
the
ballot
there's
an
initiative
on
the
ballot,
but
the
citizens
of
athens
voted
in
74
76
in
favor
of
having
a
carbon
fee
attached
to
their
bill,
which
was
basically
two
cents
per
kilowatt
hour
or
a
dollar
sixty
to
a
dollar.
Eighty
a
month
is
what
that
amounts
to.
D
I
know
that
the
former
director
of
sopek
actually
calculated
out
what
it
really
what
it
truly
should
be
when
you're
talking
about
carbon
emissions,
and
it
was
closer
to
26
dollars
per
kilowatt
hour,
as
opposed
to
two
cents
per
kilowatt
hour.
We
were
just
trying
to
find
something
that
we
we
were
hopeful.
The
citizens
would
find
as
being
an
appropriate
carbon
fee
here
in
the
city
of
athens,
and
we
were
successful
at
doing
that.
D
D
We
have
some
more
exploring
to
do
with
that
as
well,
but
again
go
back
and
look
at
this
number.
You
know
pounds
of
carbon
over
30
years,
1.4
billion.
You
know
that
we
are
removing
from
the
environment
to
have
something
like
this
and
and
to
me
the
real
upside
of
all.
This
is
it's
being
produced
right
here
in
athens.
D
G
So
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
the
fee
that
we
put
on,
we
got
a
lot
of
of
comments
from
all
over
the
united
states
about
that,
because
it
was
one
of
the
first
ones
that
really
have
done
that
same
with
kind
of
the
climate
emergency.
You
would
think
that
all
cities
had
that.
That
was
something
else
that
we
pushed
on.
So
you
know
athens
once
again
is
going
to
be
a
model
and
a
a
leader
once
again
in
an
environmental
way,
so
tricky.
K
K
So
if
it's
in
the
interest
of
the
city
in
seven
years
that
the
the
pool
and
the
community
center
we
can
afford
to
to
to
purchase
those
outright,
you
know
we
have
the
option
to
do
that
and
allow
some
of
the
other
ones
until
the
our
finances
are
in
the
right
order
to
to
take
those
on
at
a
later
time.
So
over
the
life
of
it.
We
have.
We
have
some
options
to
work
with:
it's
not
an
all
or
none,
as
I
understand
it
game,
so
that's
a
real
benefit.
K
The
other
is
in
the
rfp
one
of
the
one
of
our
primary
requests
or
her
requirements
was
the
city
would
continue
to
own
the
the
solar
wrecks
for
this
project,
which
is
you
know,
which
is
which
is
also
a
real
benefit
to
the
city.
Those
those
wrecks
are
valuable
so
for
us
to
retain
those
that
that
helps
in
our
mission,
so
that
we're
not
purchasing
from
a
farm
somewhere
in
another
state
that
we
don't
know
anything
about
that.
We
really
you
know
we
truly
own
those
those
credits
and
they're
housed
right
here.
K
L
Yeah
well,
there's
I
mean
we've
talked
about
environmental
and
carbon
focus
benefits
about
this.
We've
talked
about
positioning
the
city
as
a
technological
and
progressive
place
that
will
attract
entrepreneurs
and
residents
and
citizens,
and
then
it
all
comes
down
to
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
paying
the
bills.
L
L
You're
at
the
mercy
of
global
economic
forces
to
find
out
where
our
electric
bill
will
be
in
five
years,
10
years
25
years,
but
by
having
a
power
purchase
agreement,
the
city
will
have
a
known
locked
in
contracted
energy
supplier,
at
least
for
these
large
sites.
I
think
likely.
The
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
the
single
largest
energy
user
that
the
city
pays
a
bill
for.
C
Thank
you,
mr
greenfield.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
and
and
somewhere
maybe
for
the
city,
administration
and-
and
some
of
these
questions
have
already
been
answered.
So
I
really
appreciate
mr
chicky
you're
you're
telling
us
about
the
solar
wrecks,
because
that
was
one
of
my
questions
and
I
wasn't
quite
sure
what
I
heard
the
city
will
definitely
retain
those
solar
wrecks,
or
this
is
still
in
conceptually
our
contract.
L
Was
very
specific
where
the
reps
will
belong
to
the
city?
Okay,
so
that
that's
that's
substantial.
It
might
have
been
a
less
expensive
kilowatt
hour
price
if
dominion
took
the
wrecks
and
sold
them
on
the
open
market.
But
the
city
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
would
own
the
wrecks
and
then
what
you
do
with
them.
Some
people
will
retire
them.
Some
people
might
sell
them
on
the
market
to
help
pay
for
the
project
or
other
projects,
and
then
trade
them
for
the
less
valuable
wind
reps
out
at
west.
C
Another
question
the
land
specifically
at
the
athens
public
library.
I
know
from
the
auditor's
county
maps
that
there
is
a
mishmash
of
ownership
all
over
that
area.
Tell
me
about
it.
So
you
know,
half
of
that
field
is
athens,
conservancy
land,
so
we
already
gone
through
the
hoops
to
get
permission
from
them,
or
is
this
a
lease
agreement?
Are
we
purchasing
that
land?
How
is
this.
L
So
yeah,
that
is
part
of
the
process,
so
this
is
hopefully
gonna,
not
change,
but
it's
not
finalized
either.
So
ohio
university
leases
a
lot
of
sections
of
this
land
to
the
city
and
then
there's
also
an
easement
controlled
by
the
hocking
or
hawking
conservancy
district
rather,
and
so
we
have
to
negotiate
with
them.
It's
happened
in
other.
You
know
floodways
that
are
maintained
where
they
understand
the
impact.
You
can't
build
a
building,
that's
going
to
displace
water
in
a
water
event.
L
That's
why
the
bdt
architects
building
is
up
on
the
up
on
the
risers,
but
we
do
need
to
get
their
permission.
So,
in
addition
to
the
ppa,
there
will
be
what's
called
a
site
lease
which
will
be
a
side
document
that
will
provide
in
the
case
of
the
roof,
access
to
the
roof.
In
the
case
of
the
ground,
mounts
access
to
the
land
for,
however
long
the
ppa
is,
they
need
to
also
have
permission
to
have
the
solar.
C
Power
plant
there,
so
I
don't
know
in
back
to
the
pollinators
I'm
glad
that
you've
worked
on
the
project
in
denison,
and
you
know
how
to
do
that
that
piece
of
it
it
some
discussion,
we've
had
on
the
environment,
sustainability
commission
is
that
you
know
to
really
do
that.
Well,
you
need
to
start
working
on
that
land,
probably
in
the
in
the
late
fall
or
spring
prior
to
the
growing
period.
Is
that
we
have
time
for
that,
or
is
your
experience
different
or
there's.
L
Multiple
ways
to
do
it,
the
most
popular
way,
is
to
use
a
broad
spectrum
herbicide
and
you
know
basically,
it's
a
balance
between
soil
loss
and
erosion
and
timing.
So
one
way
is
we
do
the
entire
construction,
just
with
the
existing
ground,
cover
the
grass
and
get
all
the
construction
completed,
all
the
tearing
up
of
the
dirt
et
cetera,
and
then
they
apply
a
broad
spectrum
herbicide
one
time
and
then
they
seed
it.
So
that's
the
most
popular
way,
that's
the
way
we
did
it
at
denison
and
at
kent
state
university.
L
That
would
be
tilling
and
then
letting
it
lay
fallow
and
then
towing
it
again
and
then
using
a
spot
herbicide
for
the
volunteer
seeds
that
still
come
up
and
then
hopefully,
and
then
all
that
time
losing
soil
and
then
seeding
it
and
then
construction
right
over
the
top,
so
we'd
be
damaging
while
we're
constructing
it
too.
So
the
likely
pattern
would
be
the
same
way
that
we
did
it
at
at
denison
university
as
well
as
at
kent
city
university.
I.
C
K
If
I
could
interrupt
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
early
on
the
process
was,
we've
had
some
conversations
with
the
athens
salon-
water
conservation
district,
specifically
about
pollinators
for
this
and
getting
them
hooked
into
it
as
well.
Just
that
they
are
aware
of
the
intention
and
working
closely
with
kathy
bobo,
in
particular,
their
expertise
as
well
to
to
work
out
some
of
the
details
on
how
to
do
this
best
in
the
sites
that
we
have.
But
you
know
so
so
we
are
having
conversations
related
to
that.
K
We
have
had
conversations
and
there
were
a
couple
of
methods
that
they
had
outlined.
They
brought
in
another
agency
and
I
can't
recall
right
off
who
that
was,
but
we
had
a.
We
had
two
different
meetings
with
them
about
just
generally
what
we
need
to
do
for
the
for
this
site.
So
that
is
something
that
is.
L
L
Would
be
important
a
little
bit
about
that?
It's
also
a
little
bit
about
where
we
locate
the
inverters
and
the
power
control
electronics,
so
that
maybe
four
years
from
now,
six
years
from
now,
if
battery
storage
hits
a
certain
price
point
likely
there
will
be
power,
purchase
agreements
structured
for
batteries
as
well
for
energy
storage
systems,
right
they're,
calling
them.
C
L
No,
I'm
sorry
they
would
be
directly
would
be
what
we
call
behind
the
meter,
so
they'll
be
grid
tied,
but
at
the
plant.
So
they'll
be
this.
The
array
at
the
pool
will
tie
into
the
pool's
load
center
on
the
pool
side
of
the
utility
meter
with
the
existing
utility.
Okay.
So
just
like
a
residential
style
net
meter
arrangement,
that's.
C
L
L
J
L
L
You
know
I've
played
soccer
with
my
kids
on
that
little
patch
in
front
of
the
library
and
I've
been
ever
since
we've
been
considering
it
for
the
site.
I've
been
watching
and
I
don't
see
many
people
playing
anything
on
there
other
than
riding
their
bikes
on
the
established
paths
on
both
sides
which
we're
not
planning
on
changing
other
than
adding
a
nice
big
showpiece
for
renewable
energy.
C
C
M
L
Up
yeah
so
early
on
before
we
knew
the
timing
of
the
rec
center
re-roof.
The
original
proposal
had
us
building
parking
lot,
shade
structures
to
power
the
rec
center
and
and
those
are
much
more
expensive,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
steel
and
the
concrete
below
and
just
the
nature
of
construction,
and
so
at
that
point
is
when
we
were
talking
to
the
farmers
market,
who
you
know,
I
don't
have
the
outs
of
everything,
but
my
understanding
was,
they
have
been
and
perhaps
still
are
looking
for.
L
Their
long-term
location
and
they've
been
evaluating
a
lot
of
different
options,
and
so
we
spent
many
time
many
hours
talking
to
them,
as
well
as
their
consultants,
about
the
possibility
of
a
kind
of
a
purpose-built
solar
array
that
would
have
dual
functions
of
you
know:
rain
rain
and
weather
proofing
shading,
as
well
as
you
know,
producing
power.
So
there's
nothing
ever
really
finalized
lots
of
discussion
of
ins
and
outs.
L
M
G
L
G
Okay,
well,
that's
exciting!
Next
is
a
discussion
on
our
90
days
ago.
Well,
actually,
108
days
ago,
we
as
council
asked
the
planning
commission
to
look
at
our
off-street
parking
code
and
we
had
presented
them
with
how
we
thought
that
the
code
be
updated
and
they
looked
at
it
and
they
had
a
public
hearing.
G
A
lot
of
information
was
coming
from
both
our
planner
and
from
the
public,
and
so
they
last
week
voted
5-0
to
give
us
their
off-street
parking
recommendations,
which
was
pretty
much
what
we
asked
them
in
their
original
resolution
and
they
made
some
changes,
but
not
very
many.
So
I
put
together
like
a
frequently
asked
question
document
that
we
can
send
out.
G
Basically,
though,
I
think
that
some
of
the
one
of
the
key
things
to
remember
of
why
we
want
to
do
this
is
that
we've
been
working
on
parking
for
a
while
we've
done
the
parking
garage
people
are
using
it
a
lot
more.
We've
done
on
street
parking
with
looking
at
meters
and
then
having
the
permit
system
for
on
street
parking
not
having
to
walk
your
car,
and
this
is
the
third
leg
of
the
stool.
G
That's
that
props
up
our
transportation
and
our
land
use
pretty
much
in
the
city,
so
this
was
proposed
to
bring
our
code
dealing
with
off-street
parking
up
into
the
21st
century
because
it
was
really
antiquated.
So
basically,
it
updates
the
different
types
of
square
footage.
Permit
requirements
per
square
footage
like
I'll
give
a
a
bowling
alley.
You
need
so
many
parking
spots
per
lane.
That's
been
updated
to
best
management
practices
for
bowling
alleys,
so
that's
that
schedule
b,
those
have
been
updated.
G
Some
of
the
other
changes
are
helping
reduce
different
types
of
parking.
That's
mismatched,
with
the
use
of
parking
that
we
need
in
certain
parts
of
this.
The
city.
This
plan
should
help
to
do
that.
The
changes
it
helps
to
give
flexibility
to
the
city
for
allowing
differences
between
the
requirements
and
if
they
do
certain
types
of
projects
or
the
project,
is
a
certain
type
of
housing.
Then
they
get
to
go
through
a
process
of
having
exceptions
that
would
reduce
their
parking
requirements.
G
When
somebody
has
to
develop
a
million
dollar
parking
garage
to
go
with
some
housing,
it
gets
very
expensive
and
that
and
we've
seen
that
we've
seen
the
the
results
of
having
not
very
good
parking
off
street
parking
matching
what
we
need
for
off
street
parking.
So
this
will
give
the
city
more
flexibility
when
working
with
developers
and
also
gives
people
who
live
in
small
lots
more
opportunity,
maybe
to
be
able
to
to
not
have
their
whole
yard
b
parking
lot
if
they
needed
to
do
something
with
their
house.
G
So
I'm
not
gonna
go
through
the
whole
thing
by
you
know
section
by
section.
I
have
put
this
in
a
frequently
asked
document
and
it
does
have
analysis
with
the
changes
that
the
planning
commission
has
recommended
part
of
it.
So
that's
section
by
section
with
anybody.
You
know
the
process
here
will
be.
We
have
this
hearing.
G
D
I
don't
have
a
question.
I
have
a
comment
actually
a
note
for
council
members,
as
you
are
going
through
this,
because
I
know
with
a
lot
of
the
highlighting
and
whatnot
that
it's
a
complicated
document
it
was.
It
was
a
complicated
document
to
for
us
to
work
through
as
the
planning
commission,
but
please
look
at
the
notes
where
it
talks
about
if
it's
a
yellow
caps.
Oh.
G
D
And
so
I
would
also
encourage
council
if
you're
having
a
difficult
time
sleeping,
you
can
always
go
back
and
review.
The
video
for
the
planning
commission
meeting.
Plural
to
include
the
public
hearing
and
everything
that
we
took
into
account,
but
probably
most
notably,
would
be
the
most
recent
planning
commission
meeting
where
we
ultimately
decided
5-0
in
favor
of
moving
this
on
to
all.
G
Of
you
and
service
andy
stone
had
a
really
good
discussion
of
all
the
changes,
specifically
why
it
was
changed
from
the
original
or
why
it
was
changed
from
the
resolution
that
we
put
forward,
but
overall
most
of
it
was
similar
to
what
we
presented
to
them.
So
I
think
that
we've
come
together
in
a
really
good
way
to
improve
a
lot
of
the
structure
and
land
use
of
of
athens.
So.
E
Question,
thank
you,
member
paul.
I
do
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
been
put
into
this
and
I
have
watched
nearly
all
the
planning
commission
meetings,
but
I
still
need
to
watch
the
last
one.
So
some
of
my
questions
that
I'm
asking
tonight
might
be
answered
after
I
watch
that,
but
I'll
still
pose
them
tonight,
so
you
can
talk
about
them.
E
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
businesses
and
churches,
for
example,
to
share
a
lot.
They
have
different
uses
at
different
times.
I
mean
that
makes
total
sense.
I
can
see
a
lot
of
these
changes
in
and
parking
regulations
happening
uptown,
because
I
think
we
could
argue
pretty
convincingly
that
the
population
that
wants
to
live
uptown
probably
is
pretty
adept
to
walking
where
they
want
to
go
and
getting
places
where
they
want
to
go.
E
The
main
issue
I
have
and
concerns
that
I
have,
I
should
say,
is
once
we
start
getting
into
the
residential
neighborhoods
and
it's
what's
been
argued
at
this
point.
Is
you
know
we
need
to
make
these
changes,
so
we
can
make
our
town
more
walkable
pedestrian,
friendly
using
public
transit,
which
I
would
support.
100
percent-
I
just
what
it
feels
like-
is
we're
doing
it
in
the
wrong
order.
E
E
So
I,
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
just
to
figure
out
a
plan
to
fix
that
in
a
more
proactive
way,
instead
of
waiting
for
years
to
fix
some
of
our
really
bad
sidewalks
and
also
about
public
transit,
and
this
is
no
knock
on
public
transit.
We
have
a
very
robust
system
for
a
rural
community,
but
you
go
on
their
site
right
now.
E
G
Well,
I
think
one
of
the
changes
that
came
was
looking
at
that
transit
line,
reducing
the
amount
of
distance
from
the
transit
line
of
of
like
the
exceptions,
and
now
it's
only
the
stop
point.
So
it's
not
the
whole
line,
so
they
tried
to
balance
it,
and
so
it
would,
it
would
be
lessening
the
impact
on
the
r1
neighborhoods.
G
We
do
curbs
homeowners,
do
sidewalks,
nothing
stops
a
homeowner
from
calling
us
up
and
say:
hey
I'd
like
to
fix
my
sidewalk
people
do
do
that.
We
do
have
a
list
of
priorities
because
we
did
do
a
plan
several
years
ago
about
the
priorities
on
sidewalks
and
we've
been
working
through.
That
plan.
Paul
logue
has
more
information
on
that.
So
is
it?
Is
it
perfect?
Are
we
a
perfect
city
when
it
comes
to
pedestrians
right
now?
G
G
E
G
D
I
I
agree
with
you
ariel.
I
council,
members
medley,
you
know.
Shaffer
has
been
a
real
issue
when
it
comes
to
the
sidewalk,
which
has
a
brick
sidewalk.
Unfortunately,
cove
had
gotten
our
way
with
what
was
going
to
happen,
and
we
will
take
that
back
up
again.
I
know
that
was
a
concern
of
yours
as
it
is,
with
my
you
know,
a
concern
of
mine,
but
to
the
transit
real
quick.
You
know
one
of
the
big
things
that's
impacting
athens.
Public
transit
right
now
is
the
national
shortage
of
bus
drivers.
D
Unfortunately,
that's
one
of
the
reasons,
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
they've
had
to
reduce
bus
bus
line
hours
as
well
as
reducing
the
some
of
the
you
know.
It's
terminated
and
not
efficiency,
terminating
stopping
some
of
the
bus
lines
that
that
are
functioning
because
they're
able
to
double
down
with
a
another
bus
line
that
may
cover
you
know
a
significant
portion
of
that
existing
bus
line.
But
I
I
share
your
same
concern
when
it
comes
to
our
public
transit.
D
You
know,
but
this
is
something
that's
being
we
experienced
at
the
beginning
of
the
school
year
with
the
school
buses.
You
know
we're
seeing
it
in
a
lot
of
different
places,
but
just
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
absolutely
recognize
and
agree
with
your
concern
when
it
comes
to
our
public
transit
system.
B
I
had
asked
about
it
when
this
first
got
shown
to
us,
however
long
ago
that
was,
it
was
like
seven
years
ago
somehow,
even
though
it
was
no
more
than
two
months
ago,
I
had
been
curious
about
under
the
section
it's
230806,
under
the
exceptions
for
parking
spaces,
and
it
was
listed
as
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
I'm
actually
reading
this
correctly,
with
all
the
edits
and
and
everything
make
sure
I
understand
what
it's
saying
originally.
It
said
there
was
an
exception
for
sites
close
to
the
transit.
B
G
It's
it's
now
is
exceptions
and
they
combined
all
the
exceptions
that
were
in
the
original,
put
the
parking
that
can
be
reduced
up
to
50
and
not
75,
as
in
the
section,
the
second
section,
and
they
added
the
housing
with
net
zero
or
lead
developments
with
at
least
50
percent
universal
design
units
and
also
that
development,
that's
near
the
transit
line.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
one.
So
does
that
make
sense.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah-
I
I
actually
really
I'm
a
fan
of
that.
I
know
for
me
that
was
sort
of
a
point
of
contention.
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
living
in
a
house
and
someone
telling
me
now
that,
just
because
I'm
renting
my
house,
I
can't
have
a
parking
space
there
anymore
like
well.
I
don't
want
to
walk
over
a
quarter
mile
in
the
rain,
with
my
groceries
to
my
house.
So
I
really
like
that
change,
and
I
also
wanna
say
how
much
I
appreciate
all
the
work
everybody's
put
into
this.
F
Yes,
I
second
that
lots
of
work
lots
of
good
meetings
that
sound
like
that.
We
can
view
online,
but
I'm
hoping
someone
might
just
be
able
to
capture
some
of
the
highlights
from
the
most
recent
hearing
with
the
public
in
terms
of
what
the
primary
concerns
may
have
been
in
the
extent
which
this
current
version
addresses.
Those
well.
G
G
It
impacts
the
type
of
housing
that
people
want
to
develop
and
we
can
see
some
of
the
bad
things
that
have
happened
with
requirements
so
much
parking
requirements
and
all
the
backyards
down
on
mill
street.
They
used
to
be
backyards
now,
they're,
no
parking
because
of
our
onerous
parking
requirements.
G
That's
an
economic
justice
issue,
you
know
being
able
to
be
in
a
smaller
house
in
a
smaller
lot
and
not
have
to
pave
your
whole
backyard.
That's
what
happened
to
the
next
door.
Small
lot,
big
big
giant
spots
are
our
parking
spots
are
really
quite
large
and
most
of
their
backyard
was
used
up
in
in
their
parking
when
they
changed
from
a
homeowner
to
a
rental,
and
so
that's
expensive
for
people,
especially
people
who
live
in
those
smaller
houses
or
on
smaller
lots.
That's
that's
an
issue
when
it
comes
to
economic
justice.
G
Communities
are
really
seriously
dealing
with
these
sort
of
issues.
Some
of
them
have
decided
to
get
rid
of
all
zoning
and
only
have
mixed
use.
Zoning
and
they
have
different
requirements
for
regions
of
the
city.
Minneapolis
has
done
that
other
ones
have
gotten
rid
of
all
their
minimums
for
parking
and
said
you
get
to
have
one
space
because
that's
their
what
their
citizens
wanted.
This
is
something
that's
you
know
for
the
next
20
years,
and
I
I
would.
G
I
would
argue
that,
as
trends
go,
there's
going
to
be
less
ownership
of
cars
and
that
those
close-in
neighborhoods
are
going
to
be
even
more
enjoyable
if
there's
multi-mode
transportation
and
and
this
works
with
our
complete
streets
and
stuff
that
we've
been
doing,
and
that
will
help
to
build
on
itself.
You
know
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
be
planning
going
forward.
F
Yes
and
just
a
follow-up
question
clarification
really:
can
you
speak
to
what
changes
result
in
the
widening
of
a
parking
space
with
or
the
shrinkage
of
it?
So
is
it
that
cars
and
vehicles
were
expected,
they
used
to
be
bigger
and
now
they're
getting
smaller,
and
that's
why
we
can
go
smaller.
Okay,.
G
G
C
Oh,
thank
you.
I
have
one
point
and
one
question.
I
was
not
able
to
attend
the
public
meeting
on
september
2nd,
but,
like
remember
smedley,
I
watched
the
video
afterwards
and-
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
point
to
the
public
and
to
counsel
that
a
lot
of
the
concerns
I
heard
in
the
in
the
public
meeting
seemed
to
be
about
our
24-hour
parking
rule,
and
I
wanted
to
assure
the
public
that
that's
not
going
anywhere.
This
does
not
change
that
rule.
C
I
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
the
mayor's
office
or
the
code
office,
but
I
believe
there
was
a
response
in
the
planning
commission
meeting
on
the
second
about
this
shared
use
agreement
and
how
it
might
be
difficult
to
administer
basically
to
to
keep
track
of
tenants
and
who
had
has
that
been
worked
through?
Have
we
found
a
solution
to
that.
D
We
did
you
know
in
talking
with
director
riggs.
He
feels
that
this
won't
be
have
a
significant
impact
on
his
department,
and
this
will
likely
come
up
when
there
are,
if
there's
a
change
in
ownership
for
the
lot
or
a
change
in
ownership
of
a
business.
That
was
part
of
the
shared
use,
and
so
they'll
still
go
through
a
study,
and
you
know
demonstrate
that
they,
you
know
that
they
only
need
x
number
of
partners
and
that
the
shared
program
would
work
with
their
business.
So
it
would.
H
H
H
H
Where
are
those
cars
going
to
go
because
we
have
a
transient
population
and
there's
a
ton
of
cars
in
this
town?
Okay,
here
are
the
streets
that
will
be
affected
in
r1,
neighborhoods,
mound
street
north
congress,
grovener
franklin
morris,
hudson
may
home
lincoln
washington,
current
and
lancaster
beyond.
Second,
at
least
that's
as
far
as
I
could
go,
trying
to
read
the
map.
So
all
those
streets
could
be
impacted
with
additional
parking
because
they
are
reduced
in
an
r3
which
is
adjacent.
H
There's
other
things
I
can
say
I
I
I
I
was
really
disappointed
because
some
of
the
changes
the
planning
commission
made
said
well,
we
we
can
look
at
the
original
documents
in
terms
of
the
types
of
joint
use
or
a
thousand
feet.
Lots
and
we'll
just
rely
on
their
judgment
that
they're
going
to
keep
these
up
and
if
there's
going
to
be
problems,
we'll
depend
on
complaints,
and
that
means
you're
asking
the
population
to
do
the
work
for
the
code
office
and-
and
I
think
that's
wrong.
H
Okay,
I'm
going
to
make
my
suggestion,
which
I
stated
at
the
planning
commission
several
years
ago,
and
some
of
you
may
remember
this
city
council
put
together
ad
hoc
committees
for
issues
that
pertain
city-wide
and
we're
a
little
tenuous
in
terms
of
various
various
comments
and
how
people
how
people
had
their
vision
of
the
city
and
the
first
one
was
the
noise
committee,
and
that
was
an
ad-hoc
committee
and
I
think
it
was
chaired
by
the
south
side.
Second
ward
person,
the
police
chief,
was
on
it.
H
And
we
came
together
and
came
up
with
a
proposal
which
is
now
in
in
is
being
enforced
by
the
city
of
athens
and
it
was
very
effective.
All
those
people
coming
together
and
the
same
thing
happened
with
the
sign
ordinance-
and
some
of
you
may
not
remember
this,
but
several
years
ago,
before
the
new
sign
ordinance
came
into
effect.
You
would
drive
through
this
town
in
september
october
november,
and.
H
Much
of
this
is
is
not
enforceable
and
that's
my
problem.
I'm
recommending
that
you
table
this
for
now
put
an
ad
hoc
committee
together
and
all
the
city
council
members
draw
from
your
constituents
people
to
be
on
this
ad
hoc
committee
and
go
through
the
code.
I
mean
it's
a
lot
of
work,
I
mean
when
all
these
people
say.
I
really
appreciate
how
much
work
you
did
it's
a
lot
of
work.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
don't
think.
H
They
are
grandfathered
into
the
code
and
you
don't
take
the
grandfather
back,
and
so,
if
it
doesn't
work
in
five
or
ten
years
there
ain't
nothing,
you
can
do
about
it.
So
anyways,
that's
my
suggestion.
I
would
really
appreciate
you
consider
it
if
anybody
wants
to
talk
to
me
about
it,
I'm
in
the
phone
book.
E
One
two
quick
questions.
Thank
you,
member
for
do
we
have
we
don't
have
to
talk
about
it
now,
but
if
at
a
future
meeting
or
by
email,
we
can
be
provide
some
sort
of
study
or
evidence
to
suggest
that
car
ownership
will
go
down
and
evidence
to
suggest
that
that
reducing
cost
restrictions
lowers
housing
costs.
F
G
Well,
I
mean
the
city
administration
has
looked
at
this
and
that's
the
process
of
the
planning
commission,
because
that
is
a
city
administration,
executive
commission.
They
they
went
through
it.
They
made
their
recommendations,
it's
gone
through
the
various
departments
saying:
yes,
we
can
do
this,
so
things
don't
get
put
out
there
that
the
administration
doesn't
feel
like
they
can
deal
with
it
and
work
with
it.
So
does
that
make
sense.
A
I
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
transportation
committee
has
two
items.
The
first
one
is
a
men's
city
code,
vendors,
peddlers
and
solicitors
penalties,
and
I
think
we
have
on
our
drive,
and
here
I
I'm
old-fashioned.
I
have
a
piece
of
paper:
a
proposed
ordinance
which
states
an
ordinance
amending
athens
city
code,
title
11,
business
regulations,
chapter
11.04,
vending
peddling
and
soliciting
section
11.04.03.
I
I
I
C
D
D
C
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
mr
reisner.
I
asked
this
because,
and
I
think
it's
mostly
pandemic
related.
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we're
out
of
the
changes
that
have
happened
in
the
last
year
and
a
half,
but
I
think
council
and
city
administration
should
look
at
our
vending
situation
closely,
because
I
mean
I
go
up
on
union
street
now
for
lunch
and
there
are
no
options,
there's
nobody
there
and
we
have
10
spaces
reserved
there
for
vendors
and
nobody
is
there.
C
So
I
think
we
need
to
look
at.
Why
are
we
reserving
those
10
spaces
when
there
are
no
vendors?
I
I
supported
the
idea
of
trying
to
move
some
new
spaces
around
and
I
did
see
our
beloved
burrito
buggy
one
day
outside
of
the
space
piece
act,
the
park.
You
know,
and
I
was
glad
to
see
them
in
the
in
that
location.
I've
not
seen
anybody
up
at
the
armory
and
I
have
seen
people
decide
that
they're
going
to
vend
wherever
they
want
to
been.
C
C
D
I
would
contend
that
we
are
one
of
the
few
cities
in
southeast
ohio
that
actually
has
designated
vending
areas
and
a
process
for
someone
to
go
through
which
is
incredibly
inexpensive
to
to
vent
from,
especially
now
since
you're,
not
you're,
not
tied
to
say
you
know,
west
union
or
east
union
you're
not
tied
to
it's.
It's
basically
that
permit
they're
free
to
if
the
space
is
available,
they're
free
to
vend
at
any
one
of
those
spaces.
D
D
Vending
takes
place
down
at
appalachian,
behavioral
health.
I
I
sign
often
permits
often
for
someone
to
vent
in
an
organization
an
entity
such
as
that,
because
they
have
the
ability
to
do
that
or
vend
in
other
locations,
with
the
property
owner's
permission
to
do
so,
and
they
still
apply.
For
you
know
a
vending
permit
at
that
site,
but
this
is
the
the
other
thing
to
be
mindful
of
is.
D
You
know
when
I
went
through
city
code
back
in
2013
and
looked
at
the
vending
ordinance
one
of
the
the
issues
that
I
was
hearing
from.
Restaurants,
as
we
were
exploring
revisions
or
amendments
to
the
vending
ordinance
was
from
those
who
do
operate,
restaurants
in
bricks
and
mortar
establishments,
where
they
have
very
high
overhead
when
it
comes
to
their
leases
and
other
things
that
they
are
responsible
for,
whereas
for
a
vending
vendor.
D
Again,
when
I
say
it's
relatively
inexpensive,
it's
inexpensive
in
terms
of
what
the
city
charges
to
be
in
a
metered
parking
space,
it's
basically
recouping
the
cost
of
what
the
meters
would
bring
in
at
that
space,
so
it
you
know
being
mindful
of
where
vending
can
take
place
when
it's
it's
really
under
the
purview
of
you
city
council.
You
basically
have
control
legislatively
over
what
can
be
done
in
the
public,
right-of-way,
I.e
our
parking
spaces
and
streets.
D
C
Yeah,
so
I
you
know,
I
I
think
we
have
a
city
code
and
the
rule
of
law
for
for
a
reason,
and
I
and
I
think
that
the
the
vendors
and
everyone
should
be
should
be
following
city
code.
However,
when
I
first
noticed
the
offending
vendor
on
west
state
street,
I
was
having
to
pick
up
food
at
the
brick
and
mortar
restaurant.
On
the
other
side
of
the
that,
and
I
went
in,
I
went
wow.
C
How
long
has
that
been
happening
and
a
few
of
the
owner
operators?
There
said
that
it
had
been
happening
for
a
while,
and
I
was
curious
how
what
they
felt
about
that
and
they
were
not
concerned.
It
was
not.
I
mean
it
was
just
something
that
they
were
sort
of.
You
know
that
they
they
pretty
much
come
after.
C
I
canvassed
the
other
late
night,
brick
and
mortar
restaurants
in
the
vicinity
of
west
state,
east
state
and
and
court
street,
and
no
one
raised
objections
to
having
vendors
in
the
area
they
felt
it
was.
There
was
enough
business
for
everybody
and,
and
it
wasn't
a
problem
for
them.
So
I
appreciate
your
support
of
the
brick
and
mortar
restaurants.
On
that
ad
hoc
committee.
C
We
had
a
member
of
an
owner
of
a
brick
and
mortar
restaurant,
who
also
was
was
trying
to
work
with
the
vendors
and
wanted
to
do
positive
things
for
them.
So
I
appreciate
those
concerns,
and
certainly
we
should
keep
in
mind
both
vending
and
brick-and-mortar
restaurants
when
we
make
any
changes,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
way
that
we
can
support
both
types
of
businesses
to
the
betterment
of
both.
D
I
I
D
D
Yeah,
absolutely
the
the
current
paving
if
you
and
remember
smedley,
I'm
sure
you've
been
on
it
before
as
of
high.
It's
it's
in
really
poor
shape,
so
it
will
also
be
it's
part
of
the
repaving
that
that
will
be
addressed
as
well,
as
will
the
striping.
The
striping
has
always
befuddled
me
in
terms
of
how
someone
is
supposed
to
come
in
and
the
conflict
that
happens
right
at
the
entrances,
so
that
will
be
a
completely
redesigned
in
terms
of
the
traffic
flow
that
runs
through
that
parking
lot.
You're
welcome.
I
J
A
C
C
As
I
understand
these
bargaining
units
have
settled
with
the
city
administration
and
what
will
be
coming
up
on
our
agenda
next
week
is
to
have
council
authorize
the
mayor
to
execute
these
agreements,
these
wages
and
and
working
condition
agreements
with
these
two
separate
unions.
The
full
contracts
are
on
our
drive.
C
C
C
C
and
six
cents
per
hour
and
the
city
administration
would-
and
I
would
like
to
see
him
back
at
the
rate
at
which
he
was
hired
for
thirty
one
dollars
and
seventy
one
cents-
and
this
requires
council
approval,
so
this
will
be
coming
forward
at
our
next
at
our
next
meeting.
Anything
to
add
city
administration.
J
I
E
I
E
I
D
Just
in
brief
again,
the
hr
department,
you
know
felt
that
we
could
move
forward.
The
civil
service
commission
felt
that
it
was
not
proper
the
way
we
went
about
doing
this,
so
we
differ
a
little
bit
in
our
opinion
on
that
and
the
interpretation
of
it,
but
it
is
what
it
is,
and
so
we
just
want
to
bring
this
individual's
pay
up
to
where
it
should
be.
Okay,
thank.
E
F
C
Good
question
all
right,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Thank
you,
but
information
there.
Okay,
moving
on
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
under
staffing,
is
the
recreation
and
department
of
the
community
center.
You
may
remember
that
in
or
some
of
you
may
remember
that
in
2020
we
changed
the
the
mix
of
of
the
pay
for
the
arts,
west
project
manager,
emily.
C
We
went
to
a
75
25
between
community
center
funds
and
arts
parks
and
recreation
funds.
We
now
need
to
officially
change
that
the
staffing
ordinance
back
where
she's
100
paid
from
arts
parks
and
recreation
funds
instead
of
those
candy
center
funds,
so
that
is,
will
be
coming
forward
to
make
that
change
back
to
what
it
was
prior.
K
No,
no,
it's
still
a
program
specialist,
it's
primarily
a
financial
alignment
that
reflects
where,
where
the
budget
comes
from
so
in
consultation
with
the
auditor's
office,
and
if
you
look
at
the
community
center
fund
271-
and
I
think
appropriations
and
transfers
are
coming
where
you'll
see
requests
for
more
money
into
271.
This
is
an
alignment
financially
to
place.
K
The
funding
appropriately
into
the
to
the
correct
line
so
should
be
paid
100
out
of
270
the
parks
and
rec
fund,
but
it
doesn't
change
anything
with
with
programming
where
the
majority
of
that
programming
time
comes
from
the
arts
west,
specifically,
but
community
wide.
It's
still,
you
know,
parks
and
rec
world.
F
J
K
It's
it's
a
weird
world
arts
parks
direct
because
you
are
paying
for
things
out
of
you
know,
essentially
three
distinct
fun
lines
to
do
a
lot
of
similar
work,
so
community
center
centric
things
are
paid
for
community
center
parks
and
rec.
You
know
everything
outside
the
building
parks
and
rec,
and
many
of
the
positions
are
split.
50-50
we've
had
75-25
before
the
other
way,
primarily
out
of
community
center,
a
little
bit
out
of
parks
and
rec.
So
it's
not
uncommon
at
all.
Thanks.
C
There
will
be
an
appropriation
discussed
here
in
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
for
270,
which
is
the
arts
parks,
recreation
budget.
So
there's
the
staffing
thing
is
is
that
they
will
be
hiring
a
another
program
specialist
for
arts
west,
which
is
already
in
the
staffing
ordinance.
So
that's
just
more
information
for
you.
C
C
So
all
three
of
these
grants,
the
court
in
consultation
with
the
city
administration,
is
having
these
three
grants
be
put
into
the
dui
court
fund,
which
is
237
and
then
one
one
of
the
grants
is
actually
mental
health
and
one
of
the
grants
is
for
ovi,
and
so
the
money
will
be
dispersed.
Excuse
me
from
the
courts
after
we
appropriate
these
into
the
this
grant
fund.
237
any
questions
from
the
committee
on
that
everything's.
E
F
C
That's
a
a
very
good
question.
Auditor
heck
was
not
able
to
be
here
tonight.
I
don't
know
if
the
city
administration
has
an
answer.
Basically,
we
know
that
that
fun
line
has
been
struggling,
you
know,
and
so
we've
sort
of
been
keeping
up
just
barely.
So
I
think,
with
the
hiring
of
this
new
person
in
the
switch,
they
need
a
little
bit
more
of
a
bump
up
there
may
or
is
that
a
half-hand
raised.
D
K
I
think
related
to
arts
west
a
little
bit
of
clarification,
so
program
specialist
is
the
full-time
position,
that's
emily's
position.
Then
there
are
part-time
positions
that
exist
and
in
order
to
staff
and
get
arts
west
back,
you
know
up
to
full
strength.
You
have
the
program
specialist
and
to
make
sure
that's
fully
funded,
but
also
what
I
would
call
a
program
coordinator
used
to
be
an
events
coordinator,
but
there's
been
some
nuances
and
changes
over
time.
K
K
F
C
Other
questions:
okay.
Moving
on
to
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
or
excuse
me
the
last
item
on
their
appropriations
and
transfers
is
simply
that
we
will.
We
now
have
the
athens
city
school
district's,
share
of
the
tax
increment
financing
fund,
the
tiff
fund,
which
is
100
2
000,
so
there'll
be
an
appropriation
or
maybe
that's
a
transfer
appropriation.
J
D
Yes
mayor,
I
think
this
is
probably
just
good
from
an
educational
standpoint
for
city
council
that
you
know
under
a
traditional
tiff,
which
our
e
state
street
tip
is
such
a
tiff.
It's
typically
a
100
percent
increase
in
property
taxation
across
time.
There's
a
30-year
tif
we're
in
year
20,
I
believe
or
close
to
it.
So
ten
ten
more
years
under
this
particular
tip
that
what
was
the
agreement
that
was
reached
was
that
the
school
district
would
receive
45
percent
of
that
increased
valuation.
D
D
You
know
at
the
end
of
that
30
years
they
are
made
whole
to
where
they
get
their
full
allocation
through
the
property
tax
allocation,
if
that
makes
sense,
but
we
do
pay
annually.
45
of
that
increase
above
the
baseline,
which
was
back
in
2002
or
2003
to
where
the
the
baseline
capture
for
the
tif
occurred.